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  • 4
    May
    2013
    9:37pm, EDT

    World Trade Center 9/11 museum to charge $20-$25 admission fee

    Mark Lennihan / AP file

    Visitors look over the waterfalls at the National September 11 Memorial and Museum on Feb. 25 in New York.

     

    By Karen Matthews, The Associated Press

    NEW YORK -- Faced with hefty operating costs, the foundation building the 9/11 museum at the World Trade Center has decided to charge an admission fee of $20 to $25 when the site opens next year.

    The exact cost of the mandatory fee has not yet been decided.

    Entry to the memorial plaza with its twin reflecting pools will still be free.

    The decision to charge for the underground museum housing relics of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks has been greeted with dismay by some relatives of 9/11 victims.


    "People are coming to pay their respects and for different reasons," said Janice Testa of Valley Stream, whose firefighter brother Henry Miller Jr. died at the twin towers. "It shouldn't be a place where you go and see works of art. It should more be like a memorial place like a church that there's no entry fee."

    Testa was visiting the memorial Saturday with relatives from Florida.

    The memorial plaza opened in 2011 on the 10th anniversary of the terror attacks, but disputes over funding have pushed the museum's opening back to spring 2014.

    With the cost of operating the memorial and museum projected to be $60 million a year, the memorial foundation voted at its board meeting last week to charge a mandatory admission fee for the museum.

    "This is something that is going to be important and is going to be worth the expenditure," Joseph Daniels, president of the National September 11 Memorial and Museum, said Saturday.

    Daniels said the museum will be free during certain hours every week and will offer student and senior discounts.

    Foundation officials had considered an optional donation but rejected the idea.

    "We decided that it's more fiscally prudent to have a straight ticket charge," Daniels said.

    Debra Burlingame, a foundation board member whose brother was the pilot of one of the hijacked planes, said the trade center site is expensive to build on and to protect.

    "The World Trade Center site remains a target of interest among terrorists, so the security has to be robust and relentless," Burlingame said in a phone interview. "There's a big price tag on that.

    "Would we like to be able to say this is free? Absolutely," Burlingame added. But she called it "irresponsible to hope that year after year we have donations that will cover an expense like security."

    Some visitors to the memorial were divided about charging admission to the museum.

    Retired school psychologist Valerie Cericola of Lavalette, N.J., said the entry fee sounded fair.

    "You need to keep it open, you need to keep it running," she said. "It's an expense."

    But Jennifer Reyes, a friend of Cericola's daughter who was born on Sept. 11, 2001, said the museum should ask for an optional donation.

    "I think a donation like $10 would be good," Jennifer said.

    AP radio correspondent Julie Walker contributed to this report. 

    Related: Images of the World Trade Center site from PhotoBlog

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    203 comments

    This is hallowed ground and a fee should NOT be charged to see the museum of 9-11 artifacts. Most museums charge a minimum fee or are free to enter. This is a restrictive charge, a family of four would have to pay 100.00 to 120.00 just to enter the door, ridiculous!

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  • 1
    May
    2013
    12:29pm, EDT

    9/11 plane debris hoisted from Manhattan alley

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    By Shimon Prokupecz, NBCNewYork

    A 250-pound chunk of an airplane wing that is believed to be part of a 9/11 jetliner was hoisted out of an alley near the World Trade Center on Wednesday where it was found last week and taken into police custody.

    A dozen police officers worked for two hours using ropes and a hoist to lift the 5-foot-long piece of debris from the 18-inch-wide alley. They then wheeled it onto the street and loaded it into a pickup truck to take it to the NYPD property clerk's office in Brooklyn.

    Deputy Chief William Aubrey said the National September 11 Memorial & Museum could eventually take possession of the part. He described the removal as eerie and emotional.

    REUTERS/Andrew Kelly

    New York Police remove a piece of plane believed to be connected to the 9/11 terrorist attacks from an alley in downtown Manhattan.

    "It's a piece of history," he said. "We tried to preserve it as best we could."

    The part was removed after forensic authorities sifted the soil around it for human remains on Tuesday. The medical examiner's office said no potential human remains were found.

    The airplane debris, identified as a piece of a 767 wing, was found wedged in the alley last week by surveyors hired by the property owner, as first reported by NBC 4 New York. The alley is between the rear of 50 Murray St. and back of 51 Park Place, the site where a mosque and community center has been proposed three blocks from Ground Zero.

    Police say they have not determined whether the part came from American Airlines flight 11, which hit the north tower at 8:46 a.m., or United flight 175, which hit the south tower at 9:03 a.m. All of the other plane parts found in the immediate area were from flight 175.

    146 comments

    How the hell did they not find this for more than ten years?

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  • 30
    Apr
    2013
    3:08pm, EDT

    Search for human remains at 9/11 plane debris site in NYC begins

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    By Shimon Prokupecz, NBCNewYork.com

    Workers for the New York City medical examiner's office have begun sifting soil for possible human remains at a site near the World Trade Center where a chunk of airplane debris believed to have come from one of the 9/11 hijacked jetliners was found.

    The aircraft part has been identified as a piece from a 767 wing, officials said Monday. NBC 4 New York, which first reported the finding in an alley near ground zero last week, has also learned the answer to the mystery of a rope that was found intertwined in the part — according to a law enforcement official, a detective who responded to the original call about the part last week tried to move it with a rope.

    Authorities on Friday had said the rope might have indicated the part was lowered into the alley, but have since interviewed everyone who had contact with the part last week and have now answered that question. The official tells NBC 4 New York that the detective found the rope nearby and was trying to move the part to find a serial number or other identifying mark.

    The NYPD also said Monday that a Boeing technician has confirmed that the 5-foot part is a trailing edge flap actuation support structure.

    "It is believed to be from one of the two aircraft destroyed on Sept. 11, 2001, but it could not be determined which one," NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said.

    On Sept. 11, American Airlines flight 11 hit the north tower at 8:46 a.m., and United flight 175 hit the south tower at 9:03 a.m. A FEMA graphic below shows that all the other plane parts in the immediate area were from flight 175.

    Police and officials from the city medical examiner's office were on scene Monday preparing to sift the soil under the part for lost human remains. Officials said the part will be removed later in the week when that process is complete.

    The part was found wedged between two buildings in a very narrow alley only about 18 inches wide between the rear of 50 Murray St. and back of 51 Park Place, the site where a mosque and community center has been proposed three blocks from ground zero.

    The part bears a "Boeing" stamp, followed by a series of numbers.

    The NYPD said the landing gear was found after surveyors hired by the property owner inspecting the rear of 51 Park Place called police on Wednesday. 

    Most of the rubble from the 9/11 attack was cleared from the 16-acre site by the spring of 2002. Other debris, including human remains, has been found scattered outside the site, including on a rooftop and in a manhole, in years since.

    137 comments

    If they are still finding pieces of the plane(s) at WTC, then WMDs could still be buried in Iraq, and I believe that eventually they will be found. Before all you liberal-kool-aid-drinkers jump on me, I have been there; I saw some of the conventional weapons that were buried, the desert is huge, and …

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  • 29
    Apr
    2013
    6:21pm, EDT

    Debris near WTC site ID'd as wing piece, believed to be from 9/11 jet

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    By Shimon Prokupecz, NBCNewYork.com

    A chunk of airplane debris found near the World Trade Center site that is believed to have come from one of the jetliners hijacked in the 9/11 attacks has been identified as a piece from a 767 wing, officials said Monday.


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    NBC 4 New York, which first reported the finding in an alley near ground zero last week, has also learned the answer to the mystery of a rope that was found intertwined in the part -- according to a law enforcement official, a detective who responded to the original call about the part last week tried to move it with a rope.

    Authorities on Friday said the rope might have indicated the part was lowered into the alley but have since interviewed everyone who had contact with the part last week and have answered that question. The official told NBC 4 New York that the detective found the rope nearby and was trying to move the part to find a serial number or other identifying mark.

    The NYPD also said Monday that a Boeing technician has confirmed that the 5-foot part is a trailing edge flap actuation support structure.

    "It is believed to be from one of the two aircraft destroyed on Sept. 11, 2001, but it could not be determined which one," NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said.

    On Sept. 11, American Airlines Flight 11 hit the north tower at 8:46 a.m., and United Flight 175 hit the south tower at 9:03 a.m.

    Police and officials from the city medical examiner's office were on scene Monday preparing to sift the soil under the part for lost human remains. Officials said the part will be removed later in the week when that process is complete.

    The part was found wedged between two buildings in an alley only about 18 inches wide between the rear of 50 Murray St. and the back of 51 Park Place, the site where a mosque and community center have been proposed three blocks from ground zero.

    The part bears a "Boeing" stamp, followed by a series of numbers.

    Police Commissioner Ray Kelly visited the alley Friday evening and viewed the debris from about 30 feet away. 

    "It's a manifestation of a horrific terrorist act a block and a half away from where we stand," he said. "It brings back terrible memories to anyone who was here or who was involved in that event, and obviously I think the families could very well be impacted by this finding."

    The NYPD said the part was found after surveyors hired by the property owner inspecting the rear of 51 Park Place called police on Wednesday.

    The rubble from the 9/11 attack was cleared from the 16-acre site by the spring of 2002. Other debris, including human remains, has been found scattered outside the site, including on a rooftop and in a manhole, in years since.

    192 comments

    Damn smart detective. Ever hear about securing a crime scene? NYC's finest at work. This is just another sad reminder of 9/11. May all that suffered RIP.

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  • Updated
    27
    Apr
    2013
    2:52am, EDT

    Debris could be part of hijacked 9/11 jetliner, police say

    A piece of wreckage from 9/11 believed to be one of the commercial jets that brought down the World Trade Center was uncovered near Ground Zero. Police have now turned the area into a crime scene. If the pieces contain human DNA, scores of victims who have never been positively identified may bring closure to many families. NBC's Stephanie Gosk reports.

    By Shimon Prokupecz, NBCNewYork.com

    A 5-foot-long chunk of airplane debris found near the World Trade Center site is believed to be a piece of landing gear from one of the planes that hit the towers more than 11 years ago, NBC 4 New York first reported.


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    Police confirmed Friday that the part was found wedged between two buildings in a very narrow alley only about 18 inches wide between the rear of 50 Murray St. and back of 51 Park Place, the site where a mosque and community center has been proposed three blocks from ground zero.

    See original report at NBCNewYork.com

    The part bears a "Boeing" stamp, followed by a series of numbers, as seen in an exclusive photo obtained by NBC 4 New York. 

    Police Commissioner Ray Kelly visited the alley Friday evening and viewed the debris from about 30 feet away. 

    "It brings back terrible memories to anyone who's here, and obviously I think the families could very well be impacted by this finding," he said. 

    Kelly described the piece as being about 5 feet by 4 feet and around 17 inches high, lying in a "very, very narrow, confined area." 

    "It's difficult to get in there and see," he said. 

    NYPD

    The narrow alley in lower Manhattan where debris that might be pieces of landing gear from one of the commercial airliners destroyed on Sept. 11, 2001 was found.

    He said there was rope intertwined in part of the gear, and there were no marks on the buildings indicating the piece hit the walls on the way down.

    "It would have had to fall down at a certain angle," said Kelly.

    Asked whether he was surprised to see such a large plane part anchored in such a tight area, Kelly said: "If you see how confined this space is, and you realize the chaos that existed down here on this street, it's not surprising. It's very, very confined. No cleanup went on in this 18-inch space between these two buildings." 

    The NYPD said the landing gear was found after surveyors hired by the property owner inspecting the rear of 51 Park Place called police on Wednesday.

    Police spokesman Paul Browne said the NYPD has secured the location "as it would a crime scene," and investigators are photographing the scene and restricting access until the medical examiner completes a health and safety evaluation.

    Officials said the soil below the piece of debris could also be searched for remains. 

    Police officials say the part could be difficult to remove, and may require demolition work that would destroy the two surrounding buildings. Officials are expected to be back at the scene on Monday to see if it can be removed.

    "It really is a historical artifact," Kelly said.

    On Sept. 11, American Airlines flight 11 hit the north tower at 8:46 a.m., and United flight 175 hit the south tower at 9:03 a.m.

    The rubble from the 9/11 attack was cleared from the 16-acre site by the spring of 2002. Other debris, including human remains, has been found scattered outside the site, including on a rooftop and in a manhole, in years since.

    A Boeing representative declined comment.

    NBC New York

    The name Boeing and a serial number is visible on a piece of the debris.

    This story was originally published on Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:43 PM EDT

    661 comments

    Wow - what timing in finding that....

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  • 15
    Apr
    2013
    6:31am, EDT

    National 9/11 memorial starts charging $2 booking fee

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    Visitors to the National September 11 Memorial & Museum must now pay a $2 service fee to reserve passes online or by phone.

    The fee went into effect last month, although there is no charge for admission to the memorial on the World Trade Center site. There's also no charge for same-day passes distributed on a first-come, first-served basis.

    Family members of some 9/11 victims say the fee violates the memorial's mission.

    "They're making money off the people that died. It's disgusting," Jim Riches, a retired FDNY deputy chief who lost his firefighter son, told the New York Post.

    Memorial President Joe Daniels issued a statement Sunday saying that, "like other similar institutions, in order to help support the operational needs of the 9/11 Memorial we have implemented a service fee, solely for advance reservations."

    The memorial's website says the reservation system is temporary until certain construction projects are finished. Tax-funded grants have paid for about $300 million worth of construction, and more than $400 million came from private donations.

    The memorial opened in 2011, attracting about 7 million visitors so far to its two reflecting pools with waterfalls that outline the footprints of the fallen towers.

    Caitlin Leavey, who lost her father in the September 11th attacks, speaks out on how she found a way to cope and help other victims of terrorism. WNBC's Erika Tarantal reports.

    The foundation that runs the memorial estimates that once the project is complete, the memorial and museum will together cost $60 million a year to operate.

    The museum is still under construction after an interruption involving a funding fight between the foundation and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the 16-acre trade center site. Officials have said that the failure to open the museum on time has thrown off the foundation's financial planning.

    Visitors to the exhibit space will see portraits of the nearly 3,000 9/11 victims, hear oral histories and view artifacts such as a staircase World Trade Center workers used to escape.

    The Associated Press

    Related:

    Politics on the side? US marks 11th anniversary of Sept. 11 attacks

    PhotoBlog:360-degree-view of National 9/11 Memorial at dusk


    472 comments

    60 million a year to operate. Man that seems high. I can see why they want $2.00.

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  • 3
    Apr
    2013
    3:50am, EDT

    Potential human remains found during 9/11 sifting operation

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    NEW YORK -- Two fragments that could be human remains were found on the first day of sifting debris from construction sites around the World Trade Center site in a renewed effort to find 9/11 victims, officials said Tuesday.

    The two pieces were found Monday in the first day of a 10-week sifting operation. The city has collected about 60 dump truck loads of debris from construction areas around the trade center site over the past two and a half years that is now being examined for remains. 

    The debris was collected from the World Financial Center, West Street and a lot near Liberty Street since the last sifting operation in mid-2010.

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    The material amounts to 590 cubic yards -- 38 from the WTC, 13 from the western edge of the southbound lanes of West Street and 539 from the Liberty Street area, where four pieces of possible human remains have already been found.

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    Any human remains will be analyzed by the medical examiner's office for possible matches to 9/11 victims. Of the 2,750 people killed at the trade center, 1,634 have had remains identified.

    By NBCNewYork.com

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    I think this is the final search--the last look to make sure that all that could be done, has been done. From the original disaster, not much was left of anything or anyone. To find even minute traces at this time is almost miraculous.

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  • 20
    Feb
    2013
    7:52am, EST

    NYC professor strips to underwear, shows 9/11 footage during class

    By Deepti Hajela, The Associated Press

    Columbia University says it's reviewing a science class in which a professor stripped to his underwear and showed 9/11 video footage during a lecture on quantum mechanics.


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    The Frontiers of Science class on Monday morning with Professor Emlyn Hughes also included two other participants dressed in black, one of whom used a sword to destroy a stuffed animal.

    Video of the event was posted to Bwog, the online home of Columbia's monthly undergraduate magazine.

    It starts with the professor stripping with his back to the students as music plays and an image of a skull is projected on a screen. Later, two stuffed animals are placed on stools, one of which is stabbed by a person with a sword. In the background, a video shows the fall of the World Trade Center and an image of Osama bin Laden.

    A female student watching Hughes could be heard repeating, "What is happening?" as the performance went on.

    It ended with the professor returning to the stage.

    "In order to learn quantum mechanics, you have to strip to your raw, erase all the garbage from your brain and start over again," Hughes said.

    The professor didn't respond to an email from The Associated Press seeking comment.

    In a statement, the university said, "Universities are committed to maintaining a climate of academic freedom, in which the faculty members are given the widest possible latitude in their teaching and scholarship. However, the freedoms traditionally accorded the faculty carry corresponding responsibilities."

    It added, "While one must exercise caution in judging excerpts from a lecture or short presentations from an entire course outside of their full context, the appropriate academic administrators are currently reviewing the facts of this particular presentation in quantum mechanics."

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    "quantum mechanics." I must be an expert at it since I do what the professor did twice a day. Unless I get the Bajeebees scared out of me. Then, it's three times a day... ;-)

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  • 29
    Jan
    2013
    5:02pm, EST

    9/11 fund begins payments to sick responders

    By David B. Caruso, The Associated Press

    NEW YORK — A special fund set up by Congress to compensate people who got sick after being exposed to toxic World Trade Center dust following Sept. 11 is making its first round of payments, with the initial payouts going to a group of 15 first responders with respiratory problems.


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    The administrator who oversees the 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund, Sheila Birnbaum, announced Tuesday that the fund was finally poised to process payouts, after a deliberate start in which officials figured out how the program would work and lawyers pieced together documentation for at least 16,000 applications.

    The first round of payments, most of which have been offered to firefighters, range from $10,000 to a high of $1.5 million.


    Birnbaum declined to identify the recipients by name or say much about their illnesses, citing privacy concerns. She said their health problems range from "serious" to "not so serious," and that the people getting the larger awards tended to be younger and to have suffered more severe economic losses.

    The people offered lower amounts include some who have already received other compensation for their illnesses, including shares of a civil settlement for thousands of firefighters, police officers and construction workers who had sued over the lack of protective equipment at ground zero.

    None of the people in the initial group had cancer and all are still living, Birnbaum said.

    "We think we are off to a good start, and with the help of the lawyers and the claimants, we will be able to come up with a lot more awards in the coming months," she said.

    It will be years, though, before any applicants see the bulk of their money, or even know for certain how much they will get.

    Officials don't yet know how many people will apply for aid from the $2.78 billion fund, or how ill they will be. That means they can't yet calculate each person's share. So for now, applicants are getting only 10 percent of their award. The remainder won't be paid until after the fund closes to new applicants in 2016.

    Some advocates for the sick have worried that the $2.78 billion appropriated by Congress will be far less than the actual losses suffered by the sick — a possibility that Birnbaum acknowledged in drafting the formula she is using to decide how much money claimants will get in the first round.

    Planning for a worst-case scenario, fund officials estimated that as many as 26,475 people would be eligible for more than $8.5 billion in compensation.

    If that happens, the firefighter awarded $1.5 million this week would, in the end, actually get a prorated share of only around $488,000.

    "I think without question, there is not going to be enough," said Noah Kushlefsky, a lawyer who, along with partners, is representing about 4,700 claimants. He said that he believed Congress would ultimately be asked to put more money into the fund. "There is no doubt, based on the severity of some of the injuries."

    As for the slow pace of awards so far, Kushlefsky said Birnbaum and her staff are not to blame.

    He said the process of assembling the evidence showing that his clients were actually at ground zero, or were exposed to toxins, has been challenging and time-consuming. But he said the process is hitting a stage when applications should be moving much more quickly.

    "I think that things are going to start taking off in the very near future," he said, noting that some of his clients have grumbled about the slowness of the process. "All these guys have waited 11 years now, and none of them are warm and fuzzy about it."

    Related: 

    US adds cancer to list of illnesses linked to 9/11 terror attacks 

    US to cover cancer care for 9/11 responders

    Plan: Responders could cover 50 cancers

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    Only 12 years after the attack, way to make sure a lot of them died from sickness so the payments will be smaller.

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  • 10
    Jan
    2013
    3:40am, EST

    Guantanamo prosecutor wants conspiracy charge dropped in 9/11 case

    By Jane Sutton, Reuters

    MIAMI -- The chief prosecutor for the Guantanamo war crimes tribunal recommended on Wednesday that the Pentagon drop a conspiracy charge against five prisoners accused of plotting the September 11 attacks on the United States in 2001.

    The prosecutor, Brigadier General Mark Martins, expressed doubts that the conspiracy charge would withstand legal appeal.

    If that charge is dropped, the defendants would still face seven other charges in the tribunal at the Guantanamo Bay U.S. Naval Base in Cuba, including charges of murdering 2,976 people in the attacks, carried out by al-Qaida operatives using hijacked planes.

    They could still be executed if convicted of planning and executing the attacks that propelled the United States into an ongoing global war against al-Qaida and its affiliates.

    The defendants include the accused mastermind of the September 11 attacks, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who is alleged to have been al-Qaida's operations chief.

    Defense lawyers had long argued that conspiracy was not recognized as a war crime when the attacks occurred in 2001. The defendants are being tried under a law passed by the U.S. Congress in 2006 and revised in 2009, which designated conspiracy and providing material support for terrorism as war crimes.

    In October, a U.S. appeals court in Washington struck down the material support conviction of deceased al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden's driver, former Guantanamo prisoner Salim Hamdan, on grounds that the charge could not be applied retroactively to events that occurred in 2001 and earlier.

    A pending appeal on behalf of another Guantanamo convict, al-Qaida videographer Ali Hamza al Bahlul, was expected to bring a similar ruling on the conspiracy charge.


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    The Obama administration on Wednesday indicated it would fight to uphold Bahlul's conviction on that charge, a decision that could eventually put the case before the U.S. Supreme Court.

    Martins said dropping the conspiracy charge from the 9/11 case "would remove an issue that could otherwise generate uncertainty and delay resulting from prolonged litigation in the ongoing capital prosecution."

    He made the request to the Pentagon appointee overseeing the Guantanamo prosecutions, retired Vice Admiral Bruce MacDonald.

    "There is a clear path forward for legally sustainable charges," Martins said in a news release. "The remaining charges are well-established violations of the law of war and among the gravest forms of crime recognized by all civilized peoples."

    The defendants are accused of recruiting, training and funding the hijackers who slammed commercial jetliners into the World Trade Center in New York, the Pentagon and a field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

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    President Obama's one-year deadline to close the facility has long passed as shutting it down has proven complicated and controversial.

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    They were captured in 2002 and 2003 and held in secret CIA prisons before being sent to a detention camp at Guantanamo in 2006. Efforts to prosecute them have moved in fits and starts amid controversy over the fairness of the tribunals set up to try non-U.S. citizens outside the regular court system.

    The five men are scheduled to appear before a military judge on January 27 for the next pre-trial hearing at Guantanamo.

    Mohammed and his nephew, defendant Ali Abdul Aziz Ali, are Pakistani citizens. The other defendants are Yemeni citizens Walid bin Attash and Ramzi Binalshibh, and Saudi captive Mustafa al Hawsawi.

    The remaining charges against them are attacking civilians and civilian objects, murder in violation of the law of war, destruction of property in violation of the law of war, hijacking aircraft, intentionally causing serious bodily injury, and terrorism.

    Martins said that dropping the conspiracy charge now "would reduce the potential risks in the prosecution of the 9/11 attacks and allow the case to move forward without unnecessary delay."

    Only seven cases have been completed in the Guantanamo court and four of them involved only charges of conspiracy and material support.

    Related stories:
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    9/11 mastermind, alleged accomplices return to Guantanamo court
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    Is this what has been holding up justice for over 4,000 deaths for the last 11 years? Hey Pentagon here's a hint, take the evidence you DO have present it to the court, let the defense rebutt it then let the tribunal make their decision. Then take the damn Bastards out behind the barn and show them  …

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  • 13
    Dec
    2012
    2:42pm, EST

    'Truther' group that questions 9/11 attacks 'adopts' stretch of Missouri highway

    By James Eng, NBC News

    The Missouri Department of Transportation says it had no choice but to approve an application by a 9/11 “truther” group to “adopt” a stretch of state highway for litter pickup.


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    The agency recently OK’d the application from the St. Louis 9/11 Questions Meetup Group under the Adopt-A-Highway program. The approval means the group will have two signs bearing their names erected next month on each end of a half-mile stretch of Olive Boulevard east of Lindbergh Road in the St. Louis area.

    In return, the group agrees to pick up litter along the stretch at least four times a year for the next three years.


    Some members of the St. Louis 9/11 Questions Meetup Group suggest that the U.S. government may have been involved in the 9/11  terrorist attacks. Here's how the group describes itself on its website:

    “We are residents of the Greater St. Louis Area (and other areas) concerned about the many disturbing aspects of the 9/11 attacks and interested in finding out more about those events. We have many disagreements, but we agree that 9/11 is worth inquiring into.”

    Holly Dentner, a state Transportation Department spokeswoman, said the state can’t turn away a group’s Adopt-A-Highway application based on the group’s viewpoints. As long as the applicant fulfills the program’s obligations, which include collecting litter at least four times a year and submitting an activity report to the state, it can participate, she said.

    “We can’t deny an adopter group a section of highway to pick up trash just based on their belief or opinions,” she told NBC News. “Should they not fulfill the obligations, we can cancel and remove the signs.”

    A federal appeals court ruling in 2000 limited Missouri’s ability to pick and choose highway “adopters.” The 8th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a federal judge’s ruling that Missouri could not reject the Ku Klux Klan’s application to adopt a stretch of Interstate 55 south of St. Louis. The Missouri Legislature later voted to name the stretch of highway in question the “Rosa Parks Highway,” in honor of the black civil rights activist from Alabama. The KKK was eventually dropped from the Adopt-A-Highway program for failing to pick up litter.

    Other states have had Adopt-A-Highway controversies as well. In Georgia, a KKK chapter sued in September after the state rejected the white supremacist group’s application. In 2005, the American Nazi Party adopted a stretch of rural highway outside Salem, Ore., but their signs were quickly vandalized and later removed.

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    Dentner said the St. Louis 9/11 Questions group is among more than 4,000 adopter groups who pick up a total of about 20,000 bags of trash along 6,463 miles of roads across the state a year.

    The program saves the state at least $1 million a year in trash collection costs, said Tom Blair,  assistant district engineer for state Transportation Department in St. Louis. “Without the Adopt-A-Highway program, all roadsides in Missouri would be much dirtier,” he said.

    Donald Stahl, organizer of the St. Louis 9/11 Questions Meetup Group, believes the World Trade Center towers did not collapse strictly as a result of being struck by airplanes hijacked by terrorists. He says they may have been brought down by a controlled demolition.

    As for why his group wants to adopt a highway: “Like all the other groups that do it, we like the free publicity,” he told KSDK. 

    Stahl did not respond to an email request from NBC News for comment.

    The group’s philosophy doesn’t sit well with Warren Nelson, of the St. Louis suburb of Kirkwood. He and his wife lost their son, David Nelson, in the Sept. 11 attacks.

    “Certainly we would not be in agreement with an organization that believes that our U.S. government had anything to do at all with 9/11,” he said. “No way.”

    As to highway signs bearing the group’s name, Nelson said:  “I would not want to drive down and see a sign like that.”

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    I'll have to make sure I dump all my trash on that section of the highway.

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    9/11 mastermind, alleged accomplices return to Guantanamo court

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    This courtroom sketch shows alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed as he holds up a piece of paper during a court recess at his hearing on Monday at the U.S. Navy base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

    By NBC News' Courtney Kube and wire reports

    Updated at 5:20 p.m. ET: The self-professed mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States, which resulted in the deaths of 2,976 people, appeared before a military judge at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base in Cuba on Monday after months of delays due to scheduling conflicts, religious observances, an Internet outage and a tropical storm.

    Khalid Sheikh Mohammed shocked some observers by appearing with a long, full beard that had been dyed bright reddish-orange. He appeared before Judge Army Col. James Pohl for the start of a week of pretrial hearings, along with co-defendants Ali Abdul Aziz Ali, a Pakistani; Mustafa Al Hawsawi, a Saudi; and Walid Bin Attash and Ramzi Binalshibh, two men from Yemen.

    Unlike their last appearance in court in May, which was disrupted several times by the defendants, the five men sat quietly at the defense table, under the watchful eyes of military guards and several family members of the 9/11 victims, The Associated Press reported. All seemed to be cooperating with their attorneys. Mohammed read legal papers. Two others responded politely to the judge when they were asked questions, according to the AP.

    All the defendants wore white robes and turbans, and spoke openly with one another throughout the course of the day.


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    The men, being prosecuted in a special military tribunal for war-time offenses, are charged with conspiring with al-Qaida, attacking civilians and civilian targets, murder in violation of the laws of war, destruction of property, hijacking and terrorism. All five could face the death penalty if convicted.

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    Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged Sept. 11 mastermind, is seen shortly after his capture in Pakistan in this photo taken on March 1, 2003.

    The families of people killed in the Sept. 11 attacks were invited to military installations in New Jersey, Massachusetts, Maryland and New York City to watch the pretrial hearings on closed-circuit television, NBCNewYork.com reported.

    Getting the terror suspects to this point has been a years-long process mired in political and legal arguments over the defendants' rights, the use of evidence that may have been derived through torture, and the proper venue for the proceedings. The actual trial is expected to be at least a year away.

    The pretrial hearings this week will cover a series of motions filed by the various defense teams, dealing primarily with secrecy issues and the detainees' rights.

    The most controversial issue, which was not taken up by the end of the first day, is a challenge to the government's gag order on any information gained during interrogation of the detainees. The ACLU and more than one dozen news organizations filed a motion to oppose to government's gag order. The government maintains the order is necessary to protect classified intelligence-gathering techniques.

    Defendants may skip hearings
    On Monday, prosecutors and lawyers spent hours arguing the most preliminary of issues, including whether the defendants have to be in court at all, with one attorney saying the hearings may dredge up bad memories of their harsh treatment in CIA detention.

    Defense attorney Capt. Michael Schwartz argued that the detainees should not be forced to come to court because the process of forcibly removing them from their cells is traumatic and reminiscent of harsh interrogation techniques.

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    Schwartz said that if the court was considering forced cell extraction it had to talk about torture.

    "No we don't," the judge said quickly.

    "I think we do," Schwartz said.

    "I'm telling you I don't think that's relevant in this issue. That's the end of that, move on to something else," Pohl retorted.

    But Schwartz persisted, saying he needs to address the issue of torture.

    "No you don't," the judge said more forcefully this time, adding that the defense does not have the opportunity to make an argument that he sees as irrelevant.

    After a prolonged and heated back-and-forth, the detainees were granted the right to waive their attendence at the hearings at least until jurors are assembled for the actual trial, but they must sign a waiver each day they choose not to attend.

    Toward the end of the day, the judge asked each of the five detainees a series of questions to ensure they understand their new rights to waive attendance at their sessions.

    Binalshibh answered each of his questions in imperfect English, veering into a perplexing discussion about escaping from Guantanamo and alleging unfair treatment from his guards.

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    When asked whether he understands that the trial could ultimately continue even if he is not present, Binalshibh looked perplexed, saying, "that is a very wide word, can you be concrete?"

    "I'm not implying that I think you are going to escape," the judge said, adding that if that were to happen, the trial could continue without him being there.

    "Escaping from custody?" Binalshibh asked.

    "I'm not saying you're going to," the judge said, asking again whether he understands that the trial could continue without him. Binalshibh seemed to smile as he said, "Yes I do."

    Guantamo guards make things 'difficult'
    He raised concerns about the fact that guards would be sent to bring him to the hearings, though, saying, "dealing with the guard is very difficult. They didn't report everything so correctly. Problems with guards can misreporting all things."

    "Some guard when you have problem with them they can make it very difficult for us," he said.

    Despite President Obama's vow to shut down Guantanamo Bay, the nation's most expensive prison is undergoing some costly new updates that would allow the facility to remain open for years. NBC's Michael Isikoff reports.

    When the judge recommended reporting any problems to his attorney, Binalshibh said, "Where can I call him? There is no time to contact him. Very difficult communication for us."

    Mohammed answered his questions through his interpreter. He looked down and answered simply "yes" to every question, until at the end when asked whether he understands he doesn't have to attend the sessions.

    "Yes, but I don't think there is any justice in this court," he said through his interpreter.

    The court was in session for about five total hours, with several breaks throughout the day. It then adjourned until 9 a.m. ET. Tuesday.

    Pohl was also expected to hear requests from news organizations on limiting closed courtrooms for secret sessions and be asked to decide whether the U.S. Constitution governs tribunals held at the U.S. base in Cuba.

    The testy exchanges occurred during a hearing that was otherwise calm and orderly, in stark contrast to the chaotic 13-hour arraignment hearing in May, when defendants made defiant outbursts and refused to answer the judge's questions or listen through earphones to an Arabic-English translation of the proceedings. In those proceedings, one of the men was briefly restrained and two of them stood up to pray at one point.

    Subsequent hearings had been pushed back for various reasons.

    A hearing in July was postponed to allow the defendants to observe the holy month of Ramadan. Hearings in August were delayed when an Internet outage left the lawyers unable to access their electronic legal documents. That hearing was later canceled altogether as Tropical Storm Isaac approached. The storm caused no damage to the base.

    A hearing scheduled for late September was also delayed because the work space for the defense lawyers was shut down due to a rat infestation and mold, which lawyers claimed were making them sick, Reuters reported.

    Pohl ruled on Oct. 5 there would be no further postponements to the hearings.

    An earlier attempt to try the five men at Guantanamo ended when the Obama administration tried to move the trials to New York City, where two of the hijacked planes slammed into the World Trade Center.

    That was abandoned under pressure from Congress and from New Yorkers, and the charges were re-filed in Guantanamo.

    Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report. 

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