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Cid Wilson joins the crowd at New York City's Ground Zero celebrating the news that Osama bin Laden had been killed on Monday, May 2.
By Miranda Leitsinger, msnbc.com
Nearly 10 years of pent-up emotion broke like a wave across New York City after news came late Sunday that al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden had been killed in an American attack in Pakistan.
At Ground Zero, where the twin towers of the World Trade Center fell on Sept. 11, 2001, people were screaming, reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, singing "America the Beautiful" and "The Star Spangled Banner," and waving big flags.
Others chanted "Obama got Osama" in a scene overflowing with patriotism and happiness after President Barack Obama announced the death of the man who planned the terror attacks that scarred this city.
Angelo Lopez, a 47-year-old filmmaker from Middle Village, Queens, was there early Monday with his 20-year old son, holding an American flag.
“Justice has been served. It's about time this guy gets wiped off the planet," Lopez said.
David Friedman / msnbc.com
Angelo Lopez, from Queens, N.Y., was in the crowd at Ground Zero celebrating the news that Osama Bin Laden had been killed on Monday, May 2.
He said he and his son decided they couldn't go to bed and had to drive over. "Just had to come and feel the people. This is hallowed ground over here,” he added, gesturing toward where the memorial will be built.
Cid Wilson, a 41-year-old financial analyst from Leonia, NJ, said he had to join the crowds at Ground Zero “to join my fellow Americans in celebrating a mission accomplished in defeating the leader of al-Qaida.”
“To see a day like today … this was a victorious day,” he said.
Jake Ray, 35, a morning radio show producer who lives close to Ground Zero, said he heard screaming before he knew about bin Laden, so he came over.
He said the ceremonies there are usually somber events. “Never been this joyous,” he said.
Still he worried about the effects of the al-Qaida leader's death. “Is it going to have some negative fallout?” he wondered.
A large group of people gather at ground zero in New York City to celebrate the news that Osama bin Laden has been killed.
In Times Square, several hundred people gathered, singing, chanting “USA, USA” and “Let’s Roll,” and waving American flags. The horns from police cars and fire trucks nearby added to the cacophony.
Among the celebrants was Sophia Peng, 34, an IT consultant, who said she has not been able to venture downtown to the area around the World Trade Center since her college roommate, Christina Ryook, 25, was killed in the 9/11 attack.
“It brings back too many memories from that day,“ she said, adding that she may now be able to return to the WTC site “to go back and honor her.”
A friend, Miles Oh of New York, said he was joining her in the celebration.
“It’s not really good to celebrate someone’s death,” he said, “.... but it feels good for the country … for our lost friends.”
Also joining in the celebration was Umberto Navarrete, 24, from San Diego, a military veteran who served 18 months in Iraq.
Navarrete said he was with friends at a restaurant when he heard the news. He left them there to come mark the occasion publicly, but alone.
“My friends don’t know what this means to me,” he said. “I’ve been waiting for this day for 10 years.”
Following the news that Osama bin Laden was killed in Pakistan, celebrants say the pledge at Ground Zero, New York City.
While the mood was overwhelmingly joyous, some in the square were struggling with other emotions.
Among them was Daniel Epstein, 40, an architect from Los Angeles.
“It’s emotional,” he said, adding that he felt like he was about to cry. “ I feel like it’s not over, but it’s an important step that’s been long overdue. … It’s a bookend … another moment to remember the people who passed away.”
Back at Ground Zero, Wilson said that he lost business colleagues in the 9/11 attacks and he remembers that day, “like it was yesterday.”
Coming to Ground Zero “is also a way to connect with those who perished … to let them know that while their deaths were tragic, that we’re here to let you know that justice was served,” he said while holding an American flag. “And now they can truly rest in peace knowing that the perpetrator behind this heinous terrorist attack has been brought to justice."
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Get it right! Obama did not get him, our United States military did!
Yes, the United States military under the command of President Barack Obama...it stings don't it? A democratic, black male with a Muslim name get's part of the credit...out it hurts don't it? Can't even fess up to your hypocrisy...I really think the racism is getting annoying. Please go whine to Trump...
You're an idiot that probably was saying that Clinton didn't get him when he had the chance also huh? Well I can give you that because Bill didn't give the order. Difference here? Obama GAVE the order and it was carried out in a competent and professional manner by the very people we train and give our support to. As commander-in chief,he did his job.And as soldiers, they did theirs. So good work all around.
Dear Mikzyspitlik,
You my friend sound like you have a lot of pent up anger. You talk about hyposcrasy but yet your comments seem aimed against Republican, whites, and non-Muslims (oh and against Donald Trump). It is funny how people like yourself view racism. It seems that racism is acutally only racism when "you" feel attacked but obviously not when you attack others. Am I unjust in my comments?
it may have been carried out by the military through a war that was started by Bush, but Obama is currently our president and commander-in-chief of our armed forces
i don't agree with some of his politics and have been less-than-impressed by his administration so far, but I still regard him with respect and congratulate him on this victory...some of the comments i'm seeing on these articles bashing Obama are just plain hateful of him as a person, not just as a president
Stop the hate. Support your President and love your country. Time to unite as one American family. When you spread lies like this on the Internet, you make it easy for terrorists.
lame
Read about everything behind it, you stupid liberal lemmings! Obama couldn't make up his mind on the go-ahead! Obummer didn't "get" Osama -- you people are such idiots! Let's celebrate the Navy Seals who did it. And, he is NO "Commander-in-Chief." Never was, never will be.
Under the command of odumbo. Wait one minute, wasn't it you libs that defended the empty suit for his inactions in the gulf oil spill saying, what do you expect him to do, swim down two miles and plug it himself? But now you sound like this prez snuffed out bin laden rambo style! Hahahaha. The US military did an excellent job despite this lame administration. Actually, waterboarding had a play in this capture. One thing to credit this prez with is that he kept the Bush doctrine!
OshnTreszr
Blah blah blah. You can't stand it, can you? Your moronic bagger rant is lame. Go back to bed and sleep it off.
I agree with TJ......come on people stop, racism goes both ways. I would also like to wait until there is solid proff it is Bin Laden, buried at sea? Seems too easy to me. If it is true, I congratulate our military C.I.A and Obama for giving the order. Remember this is not over people if anything things are going to get worse before it gets better.
No, you sir are the idiot. We are celebrating the American Seals that pulled off this victory, but they wouldn't have been there without direct orders from the President. Pull your head out of your a$$ and be greatful for this AMERICAN victory and quit spewing your hatered & grow a brain. This is the time for all Americans to pull together.
To give you conservatives some hope, here are some ideas for spinning the story: We got Bin Laden because Palin can see Russia from her state; we got Bin Laden because Trump forced the President to show his birth certificate; we got Bin Laden because Tea Partiers are waging war against teachers, policemen, firefighters and unions. There are more ways to spin this, but unfortunately for conservatives, We got him because our Liberal Democratic Commander in Chief kept his eye on the prize and did better than his predecessor.
Maybe if odumbo hasn't been in 57 states campaigning, osama would have been captured years ago. And will he thank the corpses, oh, I mean corps?
Listen to these patriots... rather than celebrate a victory as a country... they still want to divide the country.
A@@wipes.
I agree Mark......LeftOne, why are you still trying to divide instead of trying to reunite a divided Country? remember if it wasn't for "his predecessor" we would not have been in the right place at the right time either. We are of ONE Nation all "Parties" won this battle, but there will be many many more. Bin Ladin is dead (maybe) not the Al-Queda. Again it was the brave men and women of this countries C.I.A., and military who pulled this off. Beside how can you calling killing a man (no matter how evil this man is or was) winning a prize??? Obama nor this Country have won anything. This was a joint effort by ALL parties. Why can't you accept that Mr. Leftone????
I know you conservatives think that a liberal democratic administration being responsible for the death of the number 1 terrorist in the world is like someone telling a 5 year old Santa Clause was shot down over the artic circle and Christmas is cancelled but understand something very, very simple. A U.S. NAVY SEAL operation on foreign soil in a country we are not officially at war with requires PRESIDENTIAL APPROVAL. So you REPUBS and TEAWHINERS CAN CRY CRY CRY LIKE LITTLE GIRLS. Liberals have been screaming for 10 years that we should use our police and intelligence assets to fight terrorism, the CIA is a non military intelligence agency. Liberals also have been saying we should be using special forces units like the SEALs instead of the broadsword that is the entire US military and guess what WE WERE RIGHT THE WHOLE TIME. You all deserve to have your faces rubbed in it this time.....maybe its time to start acting like decent human beings again? you know who you are.
Why so much hatred,the Military and Obama did it together even through some of you might not like his skin tone get over it.HE DID IT ALONG WITH THE MILITARY.stop hating and get it together.......when it's all said and done he's your President rather you voted for him or not!
I'm with you Randy 100%. I've never considered myself to be a part of any particular party, but I would never vote for a Republican. It's amazing how they stick together no matter how ridiculous they are!!
Jeff and Oshn? Don't be such dicks. I guess you failed to read the steps taken (maybe faux news didn't feed it to you like baby food), but OBAMA told the CIA just after he took office, to make catching or killing OBL their number one priority. Do you think they would have done this on their own? Bushwhacked sure as hell didn't make it a priority. Had it not been for Obama doing this AND giving the go ahead to carry out the attack, this would not have happened. I know it sticks in your crawl that Obama got something done that Bushie couldn't, but grow a set, be proud of EVERYONE involved and stop the partisan bull #$%^.
I hope that there are pictures of Osama bin Laden because it's funny where its said that
he is dead but there is really no proof Obama ratings are so low what would bring it up ?
Think people there is really no proof where is the body ????? Buried at sea interesting
as a veteran I would like to see the body first then bury it.
I really think people screaming racism any time anyone disagrees with or questions the President is getting annoying. So I guess we're in the same boat.
As an Army Airborne Ranger (never an EX), I supported the efforts of our presidents TOTALLY. President George Bush, you did say that on 911 that WE (America) will let that person that knocked down those walls hear from us. I don't give a damn if it took this long, but it did happen in my life time. With the Clint Eastwood theme song music 'The Good,Bad, and the Ugly' in the back ground, I will quote one of my favorite 'Bush lines: "We Will Bring You To Justice, Or Justice Will Be Brought Unto You. You Son Of A Bit*h!"
And President Barrack Obama thank you for the job well done as OUR (military) boss by completing America's main task at hand. 'The Presidential Club' is like no other, but they has always had each other's back. Except for James Earl Carter who doesn't play well with others at all.
We came, saw, and kicked ASS.
I am a bit bothered by the News Media saying "Now on que, Cheer, Now on que, Wave the flag, Now on que, Sing the National Anthem, Now on Que, gather at the White House...etc etc etc" (Please pardon my spelling errors)
I don't need the News Media telling me I should cheer or I should be happy that this is a great day. These are things I already know. Its amazing how the Media is acting. Even Wolf Blitzer saying this will be an event you will remember for the rest of your life. The Child treatment by the media is not necessary, I already was cheering.
Anyone agree that the media is over hyping this? (Understand it is a great day, I just don't like how the media is handling it)
Because our troops are great,Osama Bin-laden is finally dead. Now politically Obama rules while the GOP drool, that they could not get done in eight years what our president got done today. While we may all have a lost for words on how great a feelingof relive we share, as Americans we will never forget those we lost in 9/11 with the feeling of pain we all had to bare. Let all who do not know yet learn that we are the kind of people who will never give up and never surrender when it comes to truth and justice. God bless America.
Obama got lucky! If it weren’t for his predecessors we wouldn’t have been at the right place at the right time and Obama wouldn’t have gotten the call to make orders and our men and women wouldn’t have had to risk their lives again to kill Osama. Obama wanted to disband our military and pull them out. He's all about celebrity status and peace among the land. Peace won’t happen; it’s unrealistic to think so. We have never had peace. Centuries ago we didn’t even have it. To get what you need there isn’t a peaceful answer. Just think about this; if someone else was in office and not Obama, then they would have had to make the call and they would have taken the credit of sitting in their cozy office and agreeing to sign some paper while the real heroes and real men and women of the hour risked their lives just like they have since this nation started. Those men and women get the credit because without them we have no freedom. So I don’t congratulate Obama, I congratulate our military. Ya'll finally got him! And if a politician has to be thanked, thank Bush, he at least had the balls to do something when it started.
Mikzyspitlik Comment collapsed by the community
It sure must sting. That's why "the community" (as in teabag community) collapsed your post.
OshnTreszr, you're suspended for a week for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
Steve-3352635, Proud American-3405773, Mark-423819, you're each suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor. Read it, folks:
9 deleted, jim-3127784 derailing about bin Laden's son - or calling the POTUS bin Laden's son. Rest of the comment history was miserable. Banned.
9.1 was Mikzyspitlik extinction-wishing them:
You're suspended for a week for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
By this logic, the military was responsible for bin Laden remaining at large for ten years.
If you've taken the trouble to read the accounts of the mission, you know that the President was closely involved from the beginning and that members of the military who worked with him on this came away impressed with his coolness and decision-making.
Put it another way: If this had happened under Bush, you'd be falling all over yourself to credit him.
No one should be happy about this and dance out in the streets like those who did after 9/11. That makes you no better then them. If MR President wants to take all the credit let him that way his friends can be mad at him instead of us.
When did America became a nation of cowards that can't celebrate a victory? When in our history do we ever shy away from glorifying our accomplishments? I think people are sour to this because it's praising the brave actions of our military but more so the leadership of our President, Barack Hussein Obama, a black male, democrat. America is a great country, we should not kill innocent people but we respond when they kill our innocent. Violence never solves anything but power surely does.
People are rejoicing over justice being served, a death sentence being carried out on a war criminal. This far different than an unprovoked attack on innocent people, like the 9/11 attack.
I find the bulk of these comments are filled with bigotry and racism. All this birth-er nonsense is just a cover for racism. The real Americans are not white but you can't find that statement in these hateful comments. God Bless Obama intelligence. Thanks for the reviews from these mental midgets!! I have a better appreciation of them.
You must hate your country and your President. I guess you are on the side of the terrorists who killed thousands of innocent Americans.
I'm happy
Listen to Justice-Man and get a clue. Who said the president's taking all the credit anyway..sounded like we Americans and the service people are getting plenty of praise for it. And you do realize the president's mom is caucasion, don't you?
Don't bother to reason with the unreasonable...if they can't see their hypocrisy, bigotry, and insanity now they will never see it...I take it as a badge of honor, it shows that they feel threatened and defensive. Yes, we're coming after you, and we don't want a piece of the pie, we want the got damn recipe...
Americans are ALL of us, and if you want this country to come together as one, you need to let go of your hate and distrust as well. You sound every bit as racist as some of the other ignorant people who've commented here. There is no one master race, we all started out from two people, and we are all one family. Skin color should be no different from our hair color, however it's our thoughts and desires that make us so different. We need to change our thoughts from ones of distrust and hate to ones of peace and acceptance. Only then can America truly become ONE COUNTRY UNITED.
And who exactly are you coming after? Why do you not want to "Share the pie" with others as you've wanted them to share it with you? Do you think that way of thinking is really the answer to all these problems? Eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
And as far as Osama, he deserved to die for the crimes he committed. I'm glad they finally got him. No I don't think Obama should have gotten the credit, the troops should. Obama was just lucky enough to be in office when the troops got to Osama. But that would be said of ANY president in office. This has been going on for 10 years!!! Only the troops and special operatives have been on this mission that long. As Commander-in-Chief, I say Congratulations for a job well done, to the Troops, I say GOD BLESS YOU ALL for a job well done!
Head over to fox news . com and read through the comments - that's what the sane people here are against...you should be too.
Are you American?
Bush "was" looking hard for Osama Bin Laden....in Iraq!
Right! Searching for OBL and WMD in the wrong place! What a snipe hunt! Sad thing is, they knew it at the time! What a waste of lives and dollars.
We can all celebrate the death of this evil person. But it was't BHO who got him it was the US Navy Seals!!!!!
On orders from their Commander-in-chief. I wonder who that is hmmm? Or were they just acting on their own? It was a job well done on all parts and credit is due where it is due
meh... dont give him too much credit. the military are the ones that got the job done, initiated by the previous people in office. after 10 years they finally went to the current president and said "hey... we got Bin Laden held up in this compound, do you want us to get him?"
what's Barack going to say.... "no"? lol. I mean seriously, did anyone in the world not know Bin Laden was in Pakistan? even my 12 yr old knew that. The Pakistani government should be held a little more accountable for harboring this terrorist instead of being allowed to weasel out of it and pretend it was some sort of joint effort.
sadly Barack saw the opportunity and used this to springboard his approval ratings back up, instead of just telling it straight and letting us in enjoy the moment. Politics never takes a break.
Me thinks your tune would have been different had this happened three plus years ago. Why can't y'all just throw the man a bone?
Well, he IS a DOG so I guess we COULD do THAT much !
It takes an Obama to get Osama.....The racist extremist will see nothing good in Obama..My consolation is that they are in the minority.They were there during his election,and they unleashed their venom on him without courtesy,yet they could not stop him,despite threats of assasination,suicide,hunger strike by these shameless racist...OBAMA represents the world's radical departure from man's century old insanity and inhumanity.Every stone cast on Obama is a stone thrown on the world which is aging away from racism,slavery,injustice,abuse of human rights,etc...Even if he is no longer president today,he has made indelible history in the sands of time.Let his critics channel their wasted energies into making their own history too.!......tony ukam--Nigeria..,08037079504;www.tonyukam.org
I was in the Navy for seven years, and I'll be damned if I ever saw ANY president standing next to me when I was getting the job done.
Credit the military and the CIA...not someone who just said..."okay, go do it". The SEALS risked their lives to get Bin Laden and they did. Don't make this a political thing.
AMEN....God bless you for your service to OUR country. I may not know you, but you've been in my prayers.
No credit at all for the Prez? jeez
to: fedupinnys.....thank you!
shetc - Your "prez" is walking you to the gas chamber the same as hitler did....HE has ties with al-qaida and is ANTI-American by his OWN COMMENTS AGAINST AMERICA....you just dont have the sense to realize it because you are blinded by the color of his skin ! That's ALL that mattered to you - would you have been willing to OVERLOOK a WHITE mans ties to al-qaida and vote HIM in ? The only thing YOU and anyone of the same color as obama cared about when voting him in to office was the fact that it was a BLACK MAN (Let's just turn our heads to the fact that he has ties to al-qaida and "worships" in a HATE CHURCH which glorifies the slogan "God DA_N AMERICA" ! ...cause.....well, "At least he's BLACK!" Now exactly WHO are the PREJUDICED people ? Pu-LEEEESE ! and isn't the TIMING of this just a wonderful thing ???? The ENTIRE world waits for TEN YEARS- they get their "prize" and it's "Buried at Sea" .....INTERESTING ! Your "prez" is LAUGHING AT YOU while you DEFEND him !
Pu-leeze....the president is half caucasion!!!!!!
YeP! That's one of the MOST upsetting things......He only had to LOOK "black" enough to get the job done ! He's "BLACK" enough to inspire African Americans to create the slogan - "TELL YO MAMA TO VOTE FOR OBAMA" Now if THAT isn't proof enough that MANY if not ALL African Americans DO consider him BLACK enough ....... ASK any African American if there is a WHITE man or a BLACK man in the whitehouse ......see what they say ! Now I'm saying for the love of GOD and COUNTRY people......LOOK AT W H O You are ELECTING and NOT at the color of their SKIN ! If a caucasion individual who was WHITER THAN THE SNOW PEAKS of a mountain in TIBET was running for office.......I would NOT vote for him if he sat thru even ONE sermon much less HUNDREDS of sermons where the preacher proclaimed ..
"GOD DA_MN AMERICA"! ! I WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR THE AFRICAN AMERICAN in a HEARTBEAT over a WHITE/CAUCASION damning our country and tied to al-qaida! I don't have a problem with "Black" .....I have a problem with WHO the person is ....REGARDLESS of COlOR ! Put that Black guy who does the ALLSTATE commericials in office and I'll vote for HIM ! I saw him in an interview once and he SEEMED sincere at least ! LOOK AT WHO THE PERSON IS AND WHAT THE PERSON STANDS FOR rather than just voting him in because it is the first of your race to obtain office! How about this.....let's try for ONLY African American candidates next go round and We will chose from those........just GIVE US ONE that doesnt DAMN OUR COUNTRY and BOW to the countries that hate us and I will have NO PROBLEM voting an African American into office !
Iremember1 = lame
In this country, the military is always LED by a political leader. Period. Some of you people need to go back to junior high (middle) school and take a 'Civics lesson.
As a previous poster noted, the President in effect "pulled the trigger" by approving the mission and giving the "go" order. In addition, without the President's ongoing determination to commit resources to finding Bin Laden (instead of fictitious WMD like back in 2001) this terrorist wouldn't have been found and eliminated. Bravo - job well done by all!
I share your scepticism of George W. Bush's motives - or rather of his father, who pulled the strings of his puppet-ruling son!
I refer you to this documentary, which won a BAFTA for "accuracy in journalism:
It is available for on-line viewing - you cannot even imagine what George Bush could have been capable of having done unless you have seen this award-winning documentary - it will shock you that the U.S. neo-conservatives (including Ronald Reagan, and George Bush and leading members of their governments) and International Islamic Terrorism have the same Egyptian political philosopher at the basis of their philosophies, and, ipso facto, the SAME political philosophy, and that is to create a plausible lie of a great threat to the security of the country in order to unite society, which they see as being healthy for the state of society and the country: That is, to create a Great Lie that will unite society for the good of society! "1984"! - Minitrue!!
So, it is quite plausible to me, given the motive and the common philosophy and political roots, dating back to the 1950's, that Al Qa' eda (as it came to be called, or, alternatively, as a small organized group of people under the influence and leadership of Osama bin Laden, but not only Osama bin Laden which grew to become powerful and influential throughout the World) that the neo-conservatives arranged, conspired to allow and/or produce, the 911 plane bombings, funded by Osama Bin Laden. ...Though this possibility is not pursued in this documentary, what this documentary does expose is more than enough to declare that the United states is a dictatorship, and that this dictatorship exists in the rest of the World under U.S. and British political, diplomatic and media control. No newspaper is going to declare that you are living in a dictatorship - but that is what it is!
The C.I.A. had already exposed the Libyan Islamic "Contra-Rebels" (as I call them) as being Al Qa' eda, thus agreeing with Muammar Gaddafi, BEFORE President Obama launched the air-strikes to try to kill him, in support of an Al Qa' eda take-over of Libya, and missing Muammar Gaddafi, but killing his youngest son and three grandchildren. So, legally, and in truth, does this not constitute the corruption of American society by an Al Qa' eda-supporting President and his cohorts - and is not the support of international terrorism a serious criminal offence that he has knowingly engaged in with great fervour, declaring, even after the air-strikes that he "must" kill Muammar Gaddafi and, as it logically follows, that he "must" secure a victory for the Al Qa' eda Rebels?
So when will you, in the United States, arrest him? I suggest Hillary Clinton, the Secretary of State should place him under arrest and take his place - or would you trust his own personal choice of a running-mate to succeed him?!
And as far as being the person responsible for killing Osama Bin Laden - the search-for-and-kill-or-capture Bin Laden policy was ordered by George W. Bush, and I do agree that there are very large question-marks hanging over the failure of the United States and its allies to capture or kill the person who was widely-perceived and declared to be most notorious enemy of the United States in the world for nearly ten years!
The possibility of an Al Qa' eda-supporting President changing that policy was non-existent - he would have been universally condemned and exposed: No U.S.President could have done that. All President Obama did was to continue to pursue that policy, but not operationally, in the field, or hands-on administratively. He does not deserve the personal recognition for the death of Osama Bin Laden, only that of being the President under whose administration that the policy-in-place succeeded. But if he is found to have been at the same time a supporter of Al Qa' eda, and to given aid and support to the most notorious and most evil of enemies of the United States, then he does not even deserve that recognition. And, in addition to that, it also appears that he wants to use Osama Bin Laden's death as a trade-off to get what he wants in Libya: It is also he, himself who has linked the two, and the two events are suspiciously well-synchronised, it would seem. Did he use one in order to try to accomplish, politically, the other, though he has so far failed to kill Muammar Gaddafi and to conquer the independent non-threatening nation of Libya! Does he want to use the death of Osama Bin Laden to kill, on a wave of patriotic excitement over the death of Osama Bin Laden, Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, who poses no threat to the United States of America, and has never posed any threat to the United States of America or to its population in forty-two years? On what basis is Obama acting? I put it to you that the only difference between your President, and the person who organized the 911 attacks on your country,the United States of America, which your country then immediately declared to be a state of "WAR", is a "b" and an "s" which, when placed together, are encountered all around the international crime-scene even before arriving at and venturing inside the bovine Beast's Labyrinth of Lies and Deception! Because you have to go back to at least Ronald Reagan's administration to find out where these political lies originated ... and that assertion is based on documented facts!
Whatever Obama is doing is somewhat separate from, and on top of those lies, and from his own point of view!
But since President Barack Obama is supporting al Qa' eda, is his political philosophy really differentiable from that of the Neo-Conservatives in the previous Bush administration, since Al Qa' eda and Neo-Conservatism are the same political philosophy, and Al Qa 'eda and Neo-Conservatism are two heads of the same Beast! (And that, too, is documented in this BBC documentary!)
There is also the question of why Osama bin Laden's body was cast into the sea! This is the most unusual idea I have ever heard of! Perhaps I am naive about this, but to me, as well as a few other people here, it smacks of "disposing of the evidence"! Why wasn't the corpse delivered to the United States? And where did the order come from to deny the people of the United states the evidence of their own eyes where they could see for themselves if this was the truth? how long will the controversy over whether or not this was really Osama Bin Laden's body now reign? More unnecessary chaos and uncertainty! More smoke-screening political-chicanery by "someone", to distract people's attention from what is really going on!
Will Hillary Clinton do the logical thing and arrest Barack Obama for what he has done? Or will she support him? That is the question! Who will rule the United States - Al Qa' eda and their allies, the Vatican State, their fellow international-terrorists, as everybody knows they are and always have been - or a duopoly!? Not much of an alternative, but then it's not much difference to the usual false-choices that the U.S. people, and anyone else who lives in a so-called "democracy" are given. Who can save you, and me, and all of us, in this world that belongs to the Roman Catholic Church, and the U.N. and to their Moslem* Al Qa'eda allies!
* FOOTNOTE:
I use the term/spelling/usage "moslem", not "Muslim", because “MUSLIM = MMI, L(Roman 50) - U.S”. ...i.e. "2001 - 50 - United States"!
The 50 can mean both “the fifty states - i.e. Federal - since the White House was a target, and the Pentagon was bombed,and, (approximately) 50 degrees Latitude as referred to in the Nostradamus quatrain referring to the "New City" at "fifty degrees" and "fire", which is generally understood as referring to the Al Qa' eda international-Islamic terrorist bombing of New York in 2001.
So, you see, "911" is predicted in the word "MUSLIM"!
(MORE "COINCIDENTAL" INFORMATION: There is more about the End of the World on my Windows Skydrive - my MSN Windows Skydrive "Hotmail" e-mail address/account is "e-Liza1" followed by "@hotmail.com" and my name there, as in reality, is also Elizabeth Jane, if you are interested in finding out what is really happening in the World right now. See my Skydrive! )
I am glad that Osama Bin Laden is dead. Buried his ass at sea!!!!
How do you know he was buried at sea? Going to just "believe" what the government says?
Let's all just be happy as a country that we got the man that killed many of our people. In my opinion this is what should of happened almost 10yrs ago, instead we invade Iraq????
How is it that we Americans think we can slaughter civilians, soldiers and about anyone else in their own homelands and not suffer retaliation in our homeland? Justification for our continuing adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan is doubtful at best. With Israel, we are enabling slaughter for ethnic cleansing, racial, religious and territorial conquest in violation of UN Resolutions. Now Libya and without Arab country participation. Yes, people out there want to kill us and will go about it however they can. Do you blame them?
I oppose the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and I wish we would get out. I can't speak to the actions of Israel (many of which I oppose). But to compare the tactics of terrorists to those of the US military is absurd.
The difference between what the US does and the Islamic terrorists do is that the terrorists deliberately target defenseless civilians in markets and transit points. The US tries to avoid *collateral damage* and doesn't deliberately target non-combatants. The US military regrets killing civilians, al-quaeda gloats over it.
As for the soldiers and al-quaeda fighters, if they're an enemy and we want to take them out, we can.
@ John WV -
What do you expect when you violate the laws of this planet. You must face some sort of justice if you harm another. And the difference with the America people is that 'WE' do have patience.
'If You Kill My Dog. Don't Let You Cat Out The House....' I'll wait!!
I sincerely doubt John is an American.
Under Bush, any time someone would scrutinize the President or his decisions on foreign relations, you were basically called treasonous by the right wing.
Now, under Obama, not only has the bashing against the Commander-in-chief increased(from those very people screaming treason under Bush); but, the most viable evidence you could have: the death of the guy we were going after for 10 years, is being poo-pooed by some.
This is a microcosm of the battle between the right and other sane thinking people in this country. For the right, it does not matter how much evidence is provided to them. It doesn't matter what Obama does...they are not Americans with Obama as President. Why??? I think we all know the reason. It is absolutely pathetic.
I agree with you Matthew. It's a good day when the world's most wanted man is brought to justice. Hat's off to our Intelligence Agencies and the U.S. Military, that pulled off this operation, as well as for the President that ordered it.
Watch now, as the right-wing Obama-Bashers starts spinning their tales of unbelief. Already they're saying there is no proof that Bin Laden's dead and are now calling it a, "secret conspiracy of the Liberals" Makes me wonder if these are the same people, the "Birthers," that cling to the myth that the American president is not born in the U.S., when all evidence points to him being born in Hawaii, and that there is no substantiated, talking points evidence that exists to the contrary.
Do these right-wingers that patriotically claim to love the U.S so much, while publicly hating our elected President so much, do they know or care that publicly, maliciously, frequently and wrongly calling these things, 'conspiracies' and 'cover-ups' just feeds into the resolve and the minds of the radical terrorists and insurgents in the Middle East that increasingly puts our NATO troops in more harm's way, as well as feeds into the minds of the homegrown underground radicals that are looking for political rationalizations to justify their planned acts of terrorism within the U.S.?
Regardless of this, can the right-wing ever put aside their agenda of divisiveness, and just unite together with the rest of us to defeat our common foes and express shared joy or relief over the end of the symbolic leader of a dangerous worldwide cult. Bin Laden had no love for President Obama. The radical right-wing in this country hate our President, too. I hope the right wing can stop the sniping against our President for once, and for their own sake. Otherwise, people around the world that have no love for al Qaeda are going to wonder if the American right-wing are harboring homegrown terrorists as well.
well said Matthew. There are hypocrites everywhere. While I don't condone killing anyone - for any reason - justice has been served. Hopefully, there will be no retaliation and we can move on to solve our other problems.
Time to move forward to jobs, education, and ridding this country of people who are out for themselves only.
"Time to move forward to jobs, education, and ridding this country of people who are out for themselves only"
wells 1692 - I don't think we should get rid of all the rich Democrats and politicians - that's not nice.
There is no joy in Al-Qaidaville, for mighty Osama has struck out.
Obama should not be taken the credit for getting Osama. The credit should be going to the Navy Seals and the all the operatives that worked to gather the information that lead to getting him Obama only gave the order to go in.
No credit at all for the Prez? jeez
Obama is the most enept president we have had and to give him credit for this is at best foolish. He can't even find his way out of a paper bag unless a Hollywood dropout is leading the way. Thank you Seals and the US military for a job well done in spite of Obama.
Possibly the most ridiculous comment I've read on here. To say that the Seals and military did the job in spite of Obama is simply idiotic. Is also void of any knowledge of how military operations function.
This is a perfect example of how it does not matter what Obama does for some people, they will bash, bash, bash.
It should be noted that the brilliant fellow/lady calling our President enept can't even spell the word "inept". Ah, the plight of the truly uneducated.
No credit at all for the Prez? jeez
Finally... a post which speaks my thoughts after wasting 20 minutes of my morning reading comments of stretched opinions. Thanks Mathew.
Come on another conspiration theory. This time , the USA military , G bush , CIA are involved . IT is a WORLD CONSPIRATION against the USA. Come on You hate Obama but give him some credits. I know it will hurt at the beginning but after it is ok , just like when you lose your virginity lol
We know that what ever obama does It will NEVER be good enought for YOU.
We all know that if it were a (white) republicain you would be all over the network to praise him
Matthew, can't agree more with your comment. Beautifully and emphatically written regarding the "inept" comment.
At least if you're going to give an educated man a hard time, have the common decency to do it with a little panache and flair, as opposed to writing a diatribe that only makes you seem as "enept" as your prose.
Heard about it this morning, on the way to work. Got to job site, parked vehicle, put laptop and lunch box in office and walked to PA Security office to sign in. This walk takes me past the PA Police memorial for officers killed on 9-11-2001. I can tell you with certainty that there is nothing to celebrate.
Glad the bastard's dead. I don't know about justice. I do know that families of nearly 3,000 murder victims should be, each, allowed to find whatever closure can be taken from this.
As for the rest of us, we should remember the victims
..........and even in a day of what should be a day of joy we continue to blather political rhetoic.....if we can ever get over that we'll truly have something to celebrate. In the meantime please....shutup!!!!!!!
Obama didn't get Osama, our troops did! Don't forget that!! Obama was just lucky enough to be in office when they finally got him.
No credit at all for the Prez? jeez
Don't forget the troops could not respond without the orders from President Obama. Job well done goes out to our President of the United States - President Obama and the best troops in the world - the United States Military! May God continue to bless America!
President Obama is an historic president, who does historic things and we should all be proud! Each and every American, of every race, gender and political affiliation! We should all be equally proud of our fine, dynamic President!
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Obama, passes HEALTH CARE for all Americans...something that other presidents failed to do for over 90 years!
Obama, ends DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL, a discriminatory policy that shamed and lessened the strength of our military for decades!
Obama, passes a law that makes it ILLEGAL TO PAY WOMEN LESS THAN MEN!
Obama, nominates the first HISPANIC FEMALE to the Supreme Court!
Obama, appoints the first AFRICAN AMERICAN Attorney General of the United States!
Obama, puts an end to THE SENSELESS TORTURE OF PRISONERS OF WAR!
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And now...just to make all the haters out there go completely crazy!
OBAMA, orders the military operation that ultimately locates Osama Bin Laden, a man the U.S. military and 3 previous presidents failed to extinguish, then gives the final go ahead to JSOC (Joint Special Operations Command) commanders to move in and execute the final stage of the operation which killed the most wanted man on the planet! That's right! After almost 10 years of absolute failures...President Obama, succeeds. AGAIN!
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Democrat or Republican... Independent or other...you've gotta give it to him. President Obama succeeds where others fail! Time and time again.
Congratulations, Mr. President. Congratulations on yet another job well done!
Now, let's finish our celebrations, refocus and get rid of the remaining Al-Qaeda networks.
Com'on, Obama can't even create a job and HE got Osama? Still believe in Santa and the tooth fairy eh? The MILITARY got Osama, the only ones on the federal payroll who are worth a damn.
No credit at all for the Prez? jeez
It was me, yes, yes I killed Osama. In the words of Will Ferrels Pre. Bush: "You are welcome America."
Obama is great