I sure hope they did something useful while walking around avoiding work. Was just thinking, like picking up the trash alongside the roads. That would be their speed alright.

The GOP is utterly fair... they don't want to raise taxes on anyone. Not even on lazy parasites that do nothing but complain. Next you will be wanting to give income tax refunds to people that pay no taxes. Oh wait...

How old are those hecklers? Do they realize Russia hasn't been Communist since the 1980s?

Clotho:

Heckler: Take that you commie bastard. Hey I forgot my depends. Martha, it's coming.

See Americans want things in a nice neat package. If they do not understand it or if it doesn't fit in their reality, then it most be wrong. I do not like the Tea Party, because they do not have my best interest at heart, but I do admire them for the coup of the Republican party. The problem with OWS is that it is leaderless. It's time to get a structure and try to influence something. Until they get a solid structure people will keep discounting them. BTW: could they not come up with a better name. Geesh OWS.

OWSers

GO GET THEM .!!!!!!! You are now in the seat of power ( or their kitchen if you will ) . REBUILD HOOVERVILLE !!! The more you put pressure on them the more they lie and squrirm!! Your fight and ours has just begun . Together we may just be able to bring back honest government to all the people . It's still bad I know but it is time we screwed the top 1% , the fat cat bankers and wall street big wigs that got us into this mess in the first place !!!!! The hardest part will be getting special interest groups and pacs out of politics altogether . I will go out on a limb with this one . We must shut down the ISREALIE special group also . Why you ask ???? Because we send them foregin aid they don't need it , also they INFLUENCE ALL POLITICAL PARTIES AND CONGRESS by means of money and votes . This is our government not theirs !!! Get them out fron influencing our represenatives in congress .

Conservatives forget that the comforts, benefits, insurances, and assurances of most "middle class" jobs would not exist but for the Labor Movement over the past 130 years.

It is so ironic that conservatives know nothing of history...and ending up scapegoating and vilifying the very people and ideas that allow them to live in greater comfort than most people in the collective history of the world.

Speaking as someone who spent the past 2 1/2 years looking for work in an economy with 10% unemployment, and only just now finally gotten a job in my field --- 10% unemployment has nothing to do with lazy.

It is also a completely valid criticism that more people have been arrested for these protests than there have been people arrested for complicity in the financial crash that created this crappy job market.

Jahmekan - How about PMS

Why don't they march to Miami, buy beg for some old inner tubes and float to Cuba. Occupy Together is run by the Communist Paryt USA

Mark, the feds should arrest Bill Clinton, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank, all parties to the bastadrization of the Community Reinvestment Act, which allowed burger flippers to by $500,000 McMansions.

That old "Communist" meme is SO PASSE. Holding on to it just shows how behind the times you are.

Notice how the corporate bloggers avoid the real issues.

They use personal attacks and hate talk.

Typical Propaganda techniques.

Mark-423819

Speaking as someone who spent the past 2 1/2 years looking for work in an economy with 10% unemployment, and only just now finally gotten a job in my field --- 10% unemployment has nothing to do with lazy.

" finally gotten a job in my field"?? 2 1/2 years?? Poor baby!! I guess you are just too good to think about a career change; must be comfortable living in Mommy and Daddy's basement.

gdvegas and others

This is not about "entitlements". It is not about avoiding work. It is not about getting a job for which they are not qualified. It is not about getting something for nothing. It is not about advocacy for communism.

It is about fairness. It is about General Electric pay zero tax .... again. It is about the managers of hedge funds paying a maximum of 15% (the capital gains rate) income tax no matter how much they make. It is about generous tax breaks for oil companies who make the highest profits in the history of the world. It is about the wealthy having undue influence over the political process. It is about Republicans who actually expect us to believe that if we give the wealthy even more tax cuts they will create jobs. [That is the single dumbest statement in the entire campaign. Why would anyone ever create a job for any other reason than profit? ]

I fail to understand you middle class conservatives who have been sucked into this belief that in order to prosper the rest of us have to pamper the rich. The real question is, how are the rich going to make money if they manage to complete the destruction of the middle class?

Never Stop Asking Questions - Can you provide a benefit the labor movement has provided since the Great Depression? Crickets .......

Doc

Understand before you judge. How do you even know Mark was unemployed as he sought a job in his field? Why do you feel the need to make the smart assed remark about "Mommy and Daddy's basement." when you know nothing about his living arrangements? Would it be possible for you to try to make a logical argument without the insults?

Believenothinguread

You can start with OSHA, which has reduced workplace injuries and deaths by approximately 70% since its passage. You can continue with MSHA, which deserves credit for preventing many deaths in the mining industry. You can consider the Family Leave Act which allows employees to take time off work for maternity, family illness and other important family events. The list goes on. Maybe it would be a good thing for you to do a little reading (and believing).

Oh snap... its amazing how fast a few facts shut them down cold.

This Occupy thing is really going to break out next spring. If they actually keep it going all winter long, then it'll really catch fire in the spring. Even if it falls apart over the long cold winter, it will still get a fresh wind come spring.

It's got to be driving their coporate opposition nuts that OWS continues to thrive in the absense of any specific demands or any leadership. It's the very antithesis of what every Organization Man knows about how to run a railroad.

That may be the diabolical plan of the OWS - to frustrate the Wall St. execs into screaming jeebies by not having any kind of specific agenda against which the execs can counter, leaving those execs feeling like they are hauling smoke away in a wheel barrow.

Every week it seems easier to spot those whose only source of (dis)information is Fox News...

Easy to understand why people tend to call them "tro//s."

Don97524

Hilarious -- citing "benefits" that are nothing more than excessive regulations and laws costing US employers tens of billions of dollars annually in unnecessary compliance costs, lost productivity, continued insurance etc. Put aside the union rhetoric and do some reading yourself.

Doc I had a productive 15 year career and my job got pulled out from under me. I had trouble replacing it because my field isn't hiring (it's shrinking)... and although jobs were available elsewhere, I'm stuck here because it would be kind of stupid for my wife shuffle her career around in this job market.

I count myself fortunate that we have managed to keep ourselves financially afloat, but haven't really invested in retirement.

So you can laugh if you want; I both hope and don't hope you find yourself in the same situation

I also start my new job in 2 weeks-- so we'll be back on solid ground soon. But I know better than to be smug.

Does anyone else find it odd that people against the Occupy movements keep yelling "get a job"? Has anyone cared to explain to these people that there is rather high unemployment going on right now, might be part of the reason that there IS an Occupy movement in the first place?

It's also strange how so many people with crappy low paying jobs, or the unemployed who don't have healthcare insurance are coming to the defense of people who with one bonus check makes more money than most people will in a lifetime (or three). Then they'll mumble something about how they "earned" those bonuses.

How is it that these people are so willing to fight against their own interests?

There is more than just the distinction between the 1% and the 99%, and just because a group of people hold up signs claiming to be for the interests of the 99% doesn't mean, by any stretch of the imagination, that the interests of the 99% are unified.

People have crappy low paying jobs primarily because our education system is both lacking, and misguided. It skips some people altogether, and allows others far too much latitude to waste borrowed money studying useless subjects which will not help our nation to compete.

In both cases, there is a great deal of personal responsibility involved. You either neglected school, or you wasted your time.

As far as the people with the bonuses go, well, some may be crooks, but the majority of the 1% aren't bankers or brokers. They're doctors, lawyers, independent businessmen and women, athletes, artists, athletes and a slew of other occupations that allows for the creation of wealth. If you can't join this group, then maybe that low-paying job is just a function of your ability, and your value to society.

I don't disagree that some people have crappy low-paying jobs because of lack of education. But when it's time to invest in high quality education will you be there and willing to have your taxes raised? Will you be willing to pay teachers a decent wage?

waste borrowed money studying useless subjects which will not help our nation to compete.

There are no "useless" subjects. University isn't a job training program. So I have to disagree with you that people wasted their time studying anthropology or art.

If you can't join this group, then maybe that low-paying job is just a function of your ability, and your value to society.

That's kind of a silly comment. What would you do if all of the people doing low paying jobs disappeared overnight? I don't think you'd be too excited about having to do those "dirty" jobs. And hauling garbage is rather important to society. There are only so many physician, lawyer, and artist jobs to go around. I think that sort of attitude is the problem. I couldn't do my job without the janitorial staff coming mopping the blood off the OR floor.

Our society has too much of a "@!$%# you" I have mine attitude than one of "we can all prosper".

Alan290

"No, they should now turn and head north. Don't stop until they reach the north pole. Then hang out there a while. Then go south to the south pole via Russia, China, India etc. That should raise some interest and keep their sorry-butts out of the U.S."

Don't send them to Russia, they might quit giving us rides into space, don't send them to China, they might quit loaning us money to keep our empire afloat, don't send them to India, they might quit handling all the tech jobs we rip from U.S. citizens and send over. No, just keep your head in the sand and don't make anybody in power upset. Nothing wrong here, it will trickle down eventually. We are better than anybody else and anybody who says anything different is a communist. The "job creators" will look unfavorably on them.

So many good people are supporting the efforts to enhance awareness for economic justice in America. It's not hard to find those who suffer in our own neighborhoods. Congress just doesn't seem to care about people over corporations, profits and getting the rich richers. Spiritual and religious people and leaders are getting on board, speaking out and peacefully marching also, as evidenced in this video clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2CZZ0vhS8U

Believenothinguread

What is it about saving lives in the workplace and preventing corporations from dumping garbage into waterways and into the air is excessive? Do you believe only the propaganda fed to you from the Koch brothers via Rush, Glenn and Fox? By the way, my work experience was as a safety and environmental specialist, not as a union member, but I do largely credit the union for supporting legislation that has saved tens of thousands of lives. Don't you believe those lives were worth saving?

You mean the unemployed actors are stealing the show?

They may not be expecting it, but they will be treated as such.

Although that speaks more about the pathetic nature of the movement in general, it doesn't do much to exculpate the traveling lice-fest from the same characterization.

What a sad moment... When a parade of whining bearded children captures the imagination.

Sounds like Herman Cain should listen to your advice.

hahahahahahaha unicorn testicles!!!!!!! thank you for the laugh

I find it humorous that the people who take the time to read the article, and furthermore decide to comment on it, only to say no one is paying attention.

People do this for the laughs OWS supplies.

Nate-4581463 - The protestors are not getting attention here, they are getting laughed at. But you bring up a good point. The protestors are doing this because they crave attention, any attention. Like a child that doesn't understand the difference in the attention they get by reciting the ABCs at an early age, and the attention they get when they mess their pants. They just don't care. To them, attention is attention….

Attention really? gee from the looks of these people,they look like your everyday HARDWORKING BY THE WAY,run of the mill PEOPLE trying to get their point across.Not the Bafoons you people are flapping your gums about.

You've got getting attention mixed up with desperation.So it's either one of three things.You don't know the meaning of Attention, or you don't know the meaning of Desperation,or maybe you can't decipher, spell, or read the meaning of these two words.

So here's a suggestion,go back to school and LEARN HOW TO READ.Because your mentality on meaning of these two words is all SCREWED UP.

It's called PTO, vacation time, or leave of absence. Get a job, and you won't have to constantly jump through hoops to qualify for welfare.

He chose his profession, he should take responsibility and accept the consequences.

Fox is to journalism as @!$%# is to food.

you hurt Sharky's feelings. People like this are his heroes. Why don't they mow take two weeks and find a job.

I'm grateful 40 people had the umph to do something symbolic in stating that our gov. is connected to the rules of the game being rigged. How about a progressive tax? Maybe we can have politicians sign a pledge committing to it? Oh, that's like the other guy, grover, only with the opposite affect.

Maybe the guy in the 'March of the Forty' is simply a lousy actor and should have tried another career.

We don't want it thrown out, we want it enforced. Like the right to assemble, freedom of speech, freedom from unreasonable search and seizure. You don't like it now? Wait till next springs fighting season. It'll be an election year to remember.

OWS does NOT want the constitution full enforced. How else would they get to force others to hand over money? Like the guy that wants his tuition paid all they want is to be handed success rather than have to work for it. The rich are the bad guys because they are lucky but not sharing. The truth is success has little to do with luck and more to do with hard work. If they want what the rich have they need to do what the rich did to get what the rich have. Pushing the government to make laws to steal money from the wealthy to give to those that will not work for success is nowhere near enforcing the constitution. It is not the wealthy we should be against. It is corruption.

Work and these protesters can't be used in the same post.

It was more "hike" than work.

most misinformed statement yet.... Occupy wall-street new york has raised over 500k alone.

Yeah...and they promptly stuck it in a bank..you know, those things they don't want anyone else to use??? Google Amalgamated Bank. See for yourself.

Art, I couldn’t agree with you more. Just one more hypocritical action on the part of the OWS people. It is apparently okay for the OWS folks to infringe on the rights of others, to earn a living, own a business, and try to make a comfortable life for themselves in the name of free speech and the right to assemble. Somehow they feel entitled to occupy property they don’t own and have not paid for, cost those who do pay taxes huge amounts of money cleaning up after the mess they have caused, huge amounts of money in extra law enforcement to keep them safe and out of the streets so those who care to go to work can. There are certainly injustices on both sides of the fence and I get that; but breaking the law is breaking the law. We all know that there are folks on Wall Street, politicians, bankers, hedge owners that belong in jail but in my opinion the OWS folks have stooped to their level. In the grand scheme of things very few law breakers on either side of the issue will go to jail. The way we need to fight this is through our election process. Vote, refuse to do business with unethical banks and organizations but this whole OWS thing in my opinion is as much of a farce and waste of time as those they are protesting about. If any of them think for a minute they are making an impact on those they are protesting against they are delusional. The 1% couldn’t careless and are laughing at those protesting. This is a democracy lets vote and replace as many incumbents as possible and stop doing business with businesses that break the law, but illegal activities, irrational behavior and hypocritical actions are not the way to go.

@we the people. So who would you have run our country if not government? Somalia is nice this time of year, they have no government. Perhaps you should check it out. I'm tired of hearing all these moronic comments about how these people are freeloaders and need to get a job. Perhaps if there were jobs they would get one. Nobody in this country made it on their own. NOBODY. Everyone received help from the government in some form or another. Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country. What have YOU given back? Military service anyone? Most of you are too cowardly to enlist but are the first ones to comment about how things SHOULD be. Young people today deserve the same opportunities available to previous generations. What many of the older conservatives don't understand is things are different than they were when they were growing up. Hard work and perseverance doesn't always pay off anymore.

They have these opportunities. Those who go into law or medicine or engineering or finance and do reasonably well will find work. When it comes to medicine, chemistry and engineering, there is actually a shortage in this country - just another reason why foreign-trained doctors, chemists and engineers do very well here. We simply do not produce enough.

Those who study 19th century British Literature, on the other hand, end up taking long hikes from NY to DC because nobody needs them.

It's just more evidence that supply and demand isn't an economic principal, but a natural one.

So, Tom, you're more than welcome to feed them every last bit of food in your refrigerator. After that, you, and them, can starve in the street.

They deserve respect for walking? If they produce more than the parks full of trash I might respect them an ounce or so. Until they produce more fruitful ideas than 'tax the rich' and 'wealth redistribution' they get nothing from me.

"Brave kids" are found in Afghanistan and Iraq...not getting stoned in a tent in a park in New York.

@ tony

Maybe you're not aware of this but many veterans groups have joined with the OWS movement, including many individuals returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. Perhaps the media sources you're paying attention to have neglected to mention this.

And, just try getting stoned in a tent in a park in New York while dodging night-sticks, riot-shields, and streams of pepper-spray. Trust me, that takes skill, determination, and balls.

They should have taken math... That way, instead of being brave, they could be employed.

They can starve in the street for all I care.

@ selfmade

I take it you do not attend any kind of Christian church.

Do you?

Just curious.

Gene...

And those veterans that attend OWS rallies still are "heroes" to me...the only real heroes at the protest sites. But that doesn't mean their political leanings are correct.

As far as most of the conflicts with police go...the protesters have received what they have asked for. ANY media source that has shown those "conflicts" make it very clear that the police respond in the same manner as they would dealing with human behavior on the streets during any normal day. The protesters would never, ever behave the way they do right smack in a cop's face if they did not feel empowered by the mob around them. 'Mob mentality' is no excuse for 'resisting arrest', 'disturbing the peace', and 'assault on a police officer'.

And how much does 47% of the country pay in income tax?

If you think 47% of americans don't pay a pay roll tax on their pay checks your on crack.

He didn't say payroll tax, he said income tax. Everyone who works pays payroll taxes, but not everyone, in fact a large percentage don't pay any income taxes. it seems they are usually the ones saying to raise income taxes, because they know it won't affect them.

I want someone to explain how someone who pays $100k+ in taxes compared to my few $1000 is somehow not paying their fair share? Does McDs charge more to them for a burger too?

How about the fact that you paid more in taxes than Bank of America or GE because even though they made billions in profits, they get "tax breaks" to aid in making their billions.

Also it depends on how that person making their 100k+ is making their money. If they are really wealthy and the majority or even a significant portion of their wealth comes from investments their "income" is only being taxed at 15% maximum, not the 35% they want you to believe. Income made from working is taxed at a higher rate than income made from investing. Mcdonald's may not charge more for a burger but the federal government charges that McDonalds employee a higher percentage of their income than the wealthy burger buyer.

On top of that the wealthier an individual is the more access they have to different tax loopholes and exemptions as well as affording higher quality tax experts and lawyers to aid them in reducing their overall taxes.

i hope that helps answer your question!

No it did not. Even after loopholes and tax breaks a person who is paying $100k in taxes is still paying a lot more than I am.

So you are saying BoA and GE paid less than $2000 in taxes?

15% of 100K is $15000. That is more than I paid. How did one person paying more money than another become fair?

The federal government may charge a higher percentage but that is NOT more money. The McDs employee still pays LESS than someone earning just $100k from investments.

The Mcd's employee pays no income taxes and probably gets money back under Earned Income Credit. So exaclty how does he pay a higher rate? Investments are made with money that has already been taxed as income, so you want to have double taxation on people who make enough after taxes to invest some of it?

Would just like to comment to the many people who posted about unemployment being something only "lazy" people "suffer" from. I am a disabled veteran of the US Air Force who is no longer able to perform the job I was trained to do while enlisted and am currently enrolled as a full-time student to cross-train into a different field. I have been unable to find any jobs in my area that pay over $9/hr -- despite the fact that I could easily make anywhere from $19-$22/hr if I were able to do what I did while serving. Still, I've swallowed my pride and taken one of those jobs because I'm NOT lazy.

In the meantime, my husband worked for TEN years for a paving company and was laid off last December. Since then, he struggled to find a job with a new company because NO ONE was hiring so he wound up driving a dump truck. He continued applying for jobs elsewhere and also considered going back to school, which would reduce the time he'd be able to dedicate to a full-time labor job. Fortunately, he just started with a new company that has work lined up all over the state of Florida and we consider ourselves fortunate. In the meantime, we have been trying to have children for several years and only recently decided to pursue adoption. Sadly, we were turned down because neither of us have been employed by any one company for the past two years. I DO NOT consider us lazy, and in fact, consider my husband's job necessary. He paves interstates, turnpikes, and highways, for Pete's sake! I'm so tired of people lumping all unemployed individuals into one group and slapping a "lazy" label on us. Yes, there ARE those who take advantage of the system, but we have NEVER taken advantage and have worked for EVERYTHING we have -- yet society deems us unfit to adopt children other people didn't want, and critics want to call people like us LAZY. I'm so over it!!!

Rachie, I would not call you lazy. In fact no-one would. You and your husband didn't sit home collecting unemployment because available jobs were beneath you. Those are the lazy ones people are referring to. My husband also is disabled and a retired vet. He had the same problem with not being able to work in his field after retirement due to his disability. He went to school and after he graduated, coudn't find a job in his new field. He worked for two years at a job he was way over qualified for for minimal pay. It was a job and it was ok. I think it's unfair that you are required to have the same job for two years to adopt. You may not have worked at the same company, but you have held jobs, that should be the important part. I hope that you will be able to fulfill your dreams of having a family in the future.

There is a common misconception that ANY Corporations PAY any taxes...

They don't! They are costs that are simply paid by the consumers in the end.

i.e. - a bank's taxes are paid by higher bank fees. a retail store's taxes are paid by raising the prices of its goods.

It just did succeed. With a 240 mile hike. At least that's what they said in the article. Now they should get a job.

They need to succeed at telling their all-mighty president to grow a pair of balls and do his job to unify congress to get a jobs bill passed, so they can get to work and pay taxes.

I don't see how congress not doing their job is the presidents fault.... you can lead a horse to water but cant make it to drink.... i don't know what else he can do other than hold a gun to peoples head.

Mire...

That's the problem....this president doesn't "lead" at all...if he owned the "horse" you speak of, it would surely die of dehydration before it found a sip of water. The president would be out of the country at the time, of course.

Succeed at what?

Just a bunch of hippie larvae trying to emulate the historic protests of their retiring parents and grandparents. What they forgot is that their parents and grandparents also held jobs, and built this economy (before over-extending and over-unionizing it to the point where it is today).

Now they're pissed that an English degree doesn't land them a good job? Is that the issue?

I hope they continue south, all the way to Key West and on into the ocean.

Yea Mike, Because constipation's a B!TCH.

R.A.P,

So I guess "get a job" is your solution to the 9.1% unemployment rate? Because poverty is so attractive?