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In the latest development to the Jerry Sandusky alleged child sex scandal, one of the two new abuse allegations was made by a family member of the former Penn State assistant football coach, his lawyer said Wednesday.
Sandusky’s attorney Joe Amendola told The Patriot-News that the allegations stem from a Sandusky family dispute. He characterized the other case as an example of people trying to mimic other allegations and "jump on the bandwagon," according to the Associated Press. Amendola contends that both are unfounded.
The assault with the family member allegedly occurred before the 67-year-old Sandusky’s arrest earlier this month, but was not brought to the attention of authorities until after he was indicted on Nov. 4, according to the newspaper.
News organizations were withholding the child’s relationship to Sandusky to shield the child’s identity.
Sandusky faces 40 criminal counts accusing him of sexually abusing eight boys beginning in the mid-1990s. Authorities say some assaults happened on Penn State's campus and were reported to administrators but not to police agencies. The charges followed a nearly three-year grand jury investigation.
Sandusky has denied any wrongdoing. He has said he showered with some boys but never sexually abused them.
The two new allegations were being investigated by the state's Children and Youth Services, which investigates reports of abuse if victims are under the age of 18.
Scandal
The sex-abuse allegations have stunned Penn State and altered the image of its legendary college football coach, Joe Paterno, who was ousted amid the scandal.
Here are other developments in the case:
- One alleged victim on Wednesday sought an injunction to stop the Second Mile charity from dissipating its assets, NBC News confirmed. In a filing in Pennsylvania state court, the alleged victim said he and others intended to sue Second Mile for negligence and failing to report known sexual abuse of children, and wanted to stop the charity's assets from disappearing. Sandusky founded Second Mile.
- Former Penn State student disciplinarian Vicky Triponey told The Wall Street Journal that football players were treated "more favorably than other students accused of violating the community standards as defined by the student code of conduct."
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"With a defense lawyer like THIS, who needs enemies?" ~ this man does NOT know when to zip the lips.
You are so right, mommadonao. This lawyer needs to study up on sexual abuse victims. They very often all come out after one is brave enough to step forward. We're likely to hear from many more. Everyone who has ever molested a child.....should start looking over their shoulders. THEIR victims may even speak up now. This is going to get worse before it starts to get better. It may never get better for some of the victims.
Even worse, he let his client go on TV and be interviewed about the whole thing. I'd call that legal malpractice. If I were Sandusky's attorney, I'd tell him to stick to two words: "no comment."
This guy has already basically given his guilty plea. "Showered with them, but didn't abuse them". Give me a break.
Apparently his client does not know when to zip his pants!
I believe the attorney has some skeletons in his closet too.
what a f*ckin perv!! i hope he fries when they find him guilty!!!
According to a Chicago Sun-Times story, the attorney impregnated and married a 16-year-old
There are good bucks to be made here. why Sandusky doesn't just give in and save the expense is beyond me!there is no way that many people would be fabricating the story. he should just give in and take his punishment. some apologies and some compensation would not hurt.
Maybe the Lawyer has a plan over expose the case and call a mistrial, with all the publicity his client cant get a fair trial.
Somebody needs to off the waste of oxygen so everyone can move on.
These people become masters of disguising kindness towards kids as a lure to fill his sick needs. My wife worked as a counselor in a prison setting for several years and in another for youthful sex offenders. The incidence of repeat offenders is the highest of all crimes, these people are not gay or straight, they're pedophiles--and their mental illness is without cure. They talk with fondness and lust as they speak of their victims. They worked in schools, the taught Sunday School classes, always a position that would yield them access to children.
My wife never shared a single name or anything beyond unidentifiable case stories. Please come forward and, if you hide the act, as some at Penn State did, you should spend a long time in a penal institution. Same goes for the Bishops that move pedophile priests from one Parish to another in The Catholic Church or any "institution" that places itself beyond reproach. Don't turn a blind eye or a deaf ear.
I don't believe in capital punishment, but I believe these people should be separated from society forever.
recidivism rate?
cant you guys see whats going on here ? They are planning "the Michael Jackson" defence..
MJ had slumber parties and slept with little boys in the same bed...and got away with it !!
Why and how? Because "he never had a childhood" and he was "childlike " for an adult !! I don't agree with it all...but that's what going on here !!
Its NOT illegal to be childlike, immature, odd, strange or being in the company of young people. Mark my words....I hope Im wrong...!
and for those that think he's allowing this for a mistrial...think again..! If they found jurors for MJ, MJ's doctor, and OJ...trust me..they will find a jury for Jerry the Molester..
More and more victims will come forward. Anyone who has been fortunate enough to have not been sexually abused as a child or youth cannot possibly understand how incredibly difficult it is to tell anyone about the assault. First of all, the shame is always with you. Secondly, the fear that no one will believe you. Thirdly, the fear that someone WILL believe you and take steps to punish the perpetrator. Fourthly, the fear that others will be angry at you for causing trouble for the perpetrator (blame the victim, in other words). There are many other reasons too. I was raped at age 12 by a 30 year old male cousin and I have never told my family, even though his mother (my aunt) caught him and she did and said NOTHING. that happened 33 years ago. There are a few people who know now, like my husband and my children because I had to warn my kids about this type of danger. But I would never tell authorities what happened to me unless someone else told first.
I doubt he did the telephone interview without the recommendation and advice of his attorney. Rehearsed over last weekend for Monday morning news. He knows better than to open his mouth at this point.
What I've wondered about is the six adopted children and three foster kids. All male, but one female. Am I correct on this?
Michael Jackson all over again.. These two deviant perverts have the same personality profile of grooming their victims until they get what they want.. Sandusky Showering with them, and Michael Jackson sleeping with them behind wall of bells and alarms.. How sick are these two guys.. This time, Jerry Sandusky will pay.. Jackson, however, paid with his life... The guilt would have gotten him sooner or later either way...
Honestly I hope this guy goes to prison.....he will be tortured and maybe killed.....justice for all those boy's that he hurt...there are so many now the number keeps getting bigger !!! He will get what he deserves I hope he goes to bed SCARED EVERYNIGHT !!!
This is the Michael Jackson case all over again.. Sandusky and Jackson were and are 2 deviant perverts. Jacskon was a drug addicted deviant pervert who molested many young boys. Sandusky will do time... Jackson got the ultimate sentence... A great defense attorney can no longer save him...
The Big 10 kind of has their priorities all screwed up. Over at The Ohio State school you have some players getting tattoo's for some memorbilia and the results are the coach loses his job as well as players getting suspended within weeks of the story coming out. Meanwhile, over at Penn State you have this pervert who was confronted by a parent back in 1998 for fondling their child and then in 2002 he is seen molesting a little boy in the shower and still nothing is done. How about we keep the same letters for the school i.e., PSU=Penn State Univ., instead the new name for PSU shall be Pervert State Univ
More like Pedophiles Stay Unattended. This guy should not be walking around on the same street as the rest of us.
Obviously, none of you have ever read the US Constitution!
And don't you for one minute, in your most secret thoughts at 3 am, entertain the notion that maybe you weren't worthy of her speaking up and protecting you.
It is so often the case that an adult knows and refuses to protect the victim, and that hurts even worse than the actual abuse.
Victims and others need to realize there are two kinds of child abusers: active and passive, those who commit acts of physical/sexual abuse and those who enable such acts by silently condoning them. Both should be prosecuted, because both are EQUALLY guilty.
Hugs to you, mominmaryland.
Let us not forget, this lawyer at the age of 49, had a child with a teenage girl.....the must be part of a pedofile social network site, besides facebook.
I hope this turd gets ass raped on a daily basis in prison. And if he ever gets out. He and all of the other pedophiles should have warnings carved on their forehead!
How moral of Ms. Triponey to bring up the info about different standards for athletes NOW.
Did you bother to read the article? Being informed isn't a difficult task when a link is provided.
@ wftcotcom: Indeed, she wasn't saying anything we didn't already know about the "jocktocracy" practiced by so many schools, from high school up to the university level. Preaching to the choir, Ms. Triponey.
And is it any surprise that a Sandusky family member now speaks out about being abused by Sandusky senior? I wonder if it's Matt, who attempted suicide after living at the Sandusky home for several months.
Didn't Triponey quit after being ignored about her accusations?
Re: The link pertaining to special treatment of football players, Dr. Triponey (hired in 2003 as head of the office of judicial affairs—an arm of the student-affairs department, which can open investigations of any incident on or off campus) resigned in 2007, over "philosophical differences" with Joe Paterno. She related in a 2005 memo that Mr. Paterno believed she should have 'no interest, (or business) holding our football players accountable to our community standards. The Coach is insistent he knows best how to discipline his players…and their status as a student when they commit violations of our standards should NOT be our concern…" In a meeting between Dr. Triponey, Paterno, Curley and others in August 2005, "Mr. Paterno loudly criticized Dr. Triponey at the meeting for meddling,..." according to others at the meeting. He would not have been so bold if he had not historically exercised such control. In light of this new revelation, I am even more convinced that if Paterno insisted on having utlimate control over discipline and investigations of incidents involving the athletics department, he deserved to get fired over the Sandusky debacle. With utlimate control comes ultimate responsibility. He demanded it, he got it. He can live with the consequences.
Never before understood why Paterno was fired and this post clears that up. Only makes me wonder what all else is being hidden. So much for integrity in authority.
This should scream at the judge . . . if he assaulted family members he should NOT be out walking free. He obviously could not stop the urges and no child around him is safe. Get that bail situation reviewed and put him in jail with high bail or on a 25/7/365 bracelet that monitors him everywhere he goes. I do think his defense attorney is a poor excuse for representation but maybe he will make it easier and quicker to get the conviction and spare some of the victims from being victimized a second time.
He should be locked away; he is going to abuse again and again as long as he is free.
No cut it off is the only way to stop this.
if it was my kid , he would have a smoking hole in his forehead
@Palmquist1
Cutting it off doesn't even stop the abuse... sicko's like this will resort to using objects on their victims. The only cure is to end him!
I understand now he is even abusing his hands. OMG. there is no stopping him.
I think more will come forward.
Knowing tht he & his wife had fostered several children, I had thought it likely (altho hoped it would not be the case for the sake of his wife & children) that eventually there might be allegations from that quarter if Sandusky were, indeed, low enough to use his "charity" as his own private fishing pool.
This story just gets more disgusting and vile by the day....now members of this scuzball's own family are coming forward with allegations of abuse? How much more sick and twisted is this going to get? It just turns my stomach each and every day.
When Bob Costas first did the phone interview on ROCK CENTER last week, I thought to myself "If Costas or Williams could have reached through the phone and ripped this loser's tongue out of his mouth I doubt anyone would've blamed them....that had to have been the worst interview either of them has ever done. I know how I felt listening to this creep talk, I could only imagine how they were feeling.
Here we are in America where the powerful college football industry is protected instead of children, the poor are looked down upon, and those who have had their jobs shipped overseas are told to 'Blame themselves.'
I just don't get it.
And people use every opportunity for political jabs.
It's not a political jab SJ, it's a comment on what is valued and what isn't in our country. It's about how the rich and powerful maintain that wealth and power at the expense of others, including the most vulnerable.
I really wonder about Jerry Sandusky's wife. Mine would have gutted me!
Pissedoffinaz Thats been going on sence the beginning of time and it applies all over the world. not just in America, in fact its our world compitition that led to some of this. Back to Sandusky what if he was not the football hero just a nobody, would you feel the same way, people frequently turn their heads because they can't believe their eyes, how many times have you dismissed a rumor because you cant believe your ears. do you ever wonder why people vacation in Bangcock, pedifiles every where you look. searious house cleaning needs to be done. we need to catch them wherever they pray on children.
On a much lighter subject, I'd like to take this opportunity to wish everyone a great Thanksgiving.
Thanks, Robert...right back at cha...
Robert, why would you take THIS opportunity on THIS article to be SO off center.
I bet you are one of those lovely christian Americans who just wishes everything would go back to normal like it was in the 50s. Probably a big Penn State fan as well.
Go watch some Lawerence Welk. Some of us live in this real world......
I give thanks that I do not surround myself with smiley happy do-not-want-to-hear-any-news-if-it-is-bad people, which is kinda what you are projecting.
If you want to be benign there are 5,000,000,000,000 websites out there to pick to be benign on. Go there. This is a story about a sexual predator of children, which makes your comment almost insane sounding .
If it is because you are a victim of sexual abuse, there are also websites for that too.
Zep, you need to lighten up! I am sure that Robert was only trying to interject a current happening: Thanksgiving - to everyone. This is a serious matter, granted, and this man needs to be locked up and everyone else who had any inkling of what was happening and did nothing to stop it! I will voice Robert's opinion: I wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving.
ls 4 vols, at least you included the context of the discussion, which makes you look a little more in step with reality. To just jump on a child predator story and wish everyone HAPPY THANKSGIVING is just a bit weird don't you think?
But then, death by denial is weird too. Collapsing my comment only makes you all look like you live in the shadows as well.
We're alright, we're all just fine. Move along, nothing to see here.....
zep--- go back to your corner. don't swing till you hear the bell. I hope all of you EXCEPT SANDUSKY, have a nice thanksgiving.
how does one "collapse" someone Else's comments...haven't had the privilege yet ..
thanks robert and same to you... you can also tell Zap it also happened in the 50`s... I know .. I was one of them.. was 9 years old.. and 8 when a janitor in a luthern church tried too..
Zep, Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas...Oh...ah...happy new year...ah...oh yeah...Happy Easter..er...think i'm missing one...ok a few...life is too short to live it like a DoucheBag... Go take your Meds...eat a cookie and go back to licking the windows on the short yellow bus...dang nitwit.
I believe people are born this way, and Sandusky cannot help how he is wired but he should never be allowed to live in a free society because he will continue to abuse little boys.
That's what they say about gays and lesbians, so that can't be true ;-)
This isn't about homosexuality...this is about being a sexual predator.
I wonder if people are aware of the effects pornography has?? Some just can't watch it without it crossing the lines...if you've watched enough porn you HAVE watched a child at some point. There are many minors in the porn industry....
@ jiminyjiminy and you know this how?
Um, jiminey, you are giving too much information about your own personal habits here. Let me explain:
This article is about a child predator. To extrapolate from this article the effects of pornography, especially child pornography, on human beings, when there is no reference to either form of pornography in the article, is weird to say the least.
If you need to write a comment that states: " Hi my name is jiminiyjiminiy and I just love to watch pornography but wonder as I am fap fap fapping if the actor is underage" please feel free, because that is essentially what your weird blurb states about you.
How would you know if some actor in a porn flick is underage anyway? You speak as though you know this from experience.....
Weird people in newsvine these days.... weird indeed.
This doesn't have anything to do with porn or homosexuality. These guy see a 2 month baby and lust over him. These people are beyond any help the only way to stop this is cut it off.
Yep, at the neck!!!
Ghetto, I have to disagree on this. This isn't about sexual preference. This is about dominance, and I believe it has it's roots in abuse of the perpetrator. It is a perversion.
its a choice to do wrong not a biological or genetic problem this is just the excuse that is come up with to try and explain something when people have no moral or ethical values or intestinal fortitude to make the choice to do whats right.
ghetto born that way or not he knows better, and the choices are his, he chose this and now its time to pay.
omg....I have many gay and lesbian friends..I lived in NYC for a while..
being a molester of children has nothing to do gay or straight people..come on now ! it has to do with some kinda control, humiliation, power, trust, intimidation, submission, on the DL..(down low), and fear...
kinda like rapist.....sad isn't it ?
catholic priests would do girls I'm sure...but there is no such thing as alter girls...
There are Alter Girls, look it up. All religions have their pedophiles not just Catholics....
People ARE NOT born this way!! We all have free will and make choices and live with the consequences of those choices. God doesn't make junk!
Pepster, sure they do and at a higher percentage. For some reason, the Catholic Church's abuse cases make headlines! Pedophiles exist in every culture. In some, sadly, it is not even seen as a crime.
It sickens me to read what this man has done to innocent children. With this latest allegation, I DO agree that this sick man belongs in prison NOW!
And there are those that molest retarded children. Really, really sick.
The latest alleged victim, five year old grandson of Sandusky: must be in public records of ex-wife of ONE of Sandusky's adopted sons. On going ? custody battle of her three children which Sandusky is NOT allowed to visit !! Now we know why. Look it up espn.go.com, sportsrageous.com, nypost.com
People are not BORN THAT WAY...you IMBECILE!!!
Five of Sandusky's six adopted children are boys, guess he gave the good wife a girl to keep her quiet.
This coverup and protection of Sandusky , Paterno and PennState must end NOW. It is a TRAVESTY that this monster is still walking the streets. PA...it's obvious FOOTBALL IS YOUR GOD...for shame! Oh, and don't forget to attend Mass every week at the church that covers up like Penn State.
You are right key2joy. The Catholic Church has great sin on its soul that thankfully is being greatly eradicated. Personally, I do not believe it really was the pope who looked the other way, but neither do I think he was totally in the dark on the matter, either. There are most likely only a small percentage of bishops who took part in any cover up, that to me is where the real tragedy lies. Having said that, I do not believe the Catholic Church could ever be called corrupt in the larger review of its history. Quite the opposite. There are sinners everywhere in the pews, but what choice does God have to fill His Church? The truthfulness and importance of His teachings remain --- for all of us --- so you cannot merge or confuse the issues.
As to the grave crime of pedophelia, yes the Catholic Church is the main whipping boy, if not the only one. Put the Church on trial, but do not act as though it is still a huge problem elsewhere. Many children are being victimized in their own homes, in every institution or group setting, and beyond. For some reason the public and public officials act as though if they look into the Catholic Church they have done their job. No. If this is so horrific, and it is, then it should be addressed to a greater degree across all walks of life.
These people are born this way.
And even if they are, Palmquist1, what exactly is your point? Maybe if this pig showed even an ounce of contrition I'd have the tiniest, and I mean tiniest, amount of compassion if he were, indeed, a product of genetics. However, here in the real world, I find that to be the most disgusting excuse for his predatory behavior and the rape of little children that I have ever heard. I call bull@!$%#.
Sandusky is like a bushel of apples...there is always a bad one..it can't be repaired or fixed..it just has to be destroyed. I know this sounds harsh but that is the bottem line
I have read a couple of comments here saying "people are born this way." Is that going to be his defense? He was born this way, so he couldn't help what he was doing, so he can't be held responsible? If so, then maybe I was "born" a thief or a killer or a swindler. Therefore, don't hold me responsible for my actions because I can't help it! Heaven help us if we start buying this philosophy!
We need some kind of "Star Chamber" where persons like scumdusky are just dealt with. Take that any way you want to. But he is allowed to run free, he is above the touch of the law and needs some kind of correction. He is using his connections and friends to stay out of jail. He can avoid trial for years if he works it right and his "judges" play the game.
There is nothing we can do about it. His rights are protected by the law! Where is Charles Bronson when you need him?
The latest allegations stem from a family dispute? Um, yeah, I'd think so, if he was abusing his own relatives. In fact, he's lucky it's just a family dispute, and not a family a$$-kicking.
Things are looking grim for the two-time Assistant College Coach of the Year. Typically, when people on stuck in similar situations, with evidence mounting higher, and the probability of an acquital looking non-existent, the accused checks into some type of rehab/mental health facility, and their lawyer announces their alcoholism, crystal meth addiction or bi-polar disorder.
I guess that Mr. Sandusky is about to that point. I'd say any day now.
dman- quite bold of you to blame it on bi-polar disorder, cuz i don't know if you know but sexual indescretions are not in the bi-polar criteria if you ever bothered to check. We have behavioral issues limited to the boundaries of ourselves, rarely ever involving others and certainly not to the extent that you just posted. idk, maybe next time you post you could be a little more informed on your topic. most people are born this way, i believe it is something in their brains that is imprinted there before they are even self aware. Whatever it is i don't know, i know it isn't bi-polar though.
Oh, Amythyst. Read the whole comment before you lecture someone else about their lack of understanding. You just wasted a lot of space there saying nothing to do with anything by replying seriously to a satirical post. And really...enough with this "they're born that way" crap. M'kay.
Oh good grief, amethist, FinallyProud understood what I said, which was not that Sandusky was, actually bi-polar, or an alcoholic, or even habituated to some class d substance. I only observed that people in such legal fixes often attempt to cop some for of a medical or mental disorder plea.
Mr. Sandusky has only a few options remaining in his life, surety of prison, claim some extenuating circumstance, or, literally, to bite the bullet. What would you choose.
I say leave him out on bail. He can't go anywhere or do anything for fear he'll be killed on the spot, and if he's put in jail, no amount of protective isolation will keep one or more inmates from getting to him and killing him. I hope he lives long enough to stand trial and face his accusers.
Yeah prisoners kill sex offenders every day all day long in prison . If they do not kill them they rape them ! WOW some people are so @!$%#ing stupid and clueless it is just beyond reproach !
Buffale, leave him out on bail? He did not even have to put out the typical 10% of his $100,000 bail. He is out free, this time around. I suppose legendary heroes don't need to put up the cash in Pa.
He is out every day! He is Christmas shopping and going to sports stores! He has no shame and drives around trying to show us he must be innocent because he is not in jail.
Give those prison guys a break. Very few would even consider raping that old pervert. They will beat him often, cut him up just enough to hurt like hell, then punch the wound in passing as often as they can. If they want to give him what he gave those kids they will use something big and short to make it hard to dig out later in the infirmary. I hope he lives a long time.
I agree with your comment. And the person who did actually kill him, would be arrested and found guilty. I wouldn't want that to happen to someone who leads a decent life. This guy should be in jail, there should have been no bond set. And also everyone who knew about this should be in jail. As far as I am concerned,they are accessories after the fact. I would never make a good lawyer as I would refuse to
defend anyone accused of this. I love kids, and I couldn't handle the thought of defending him. I just can't understand how his wife stayed so blind to what was going on. Bedrooms in thebasement when there was room upstairs. But then I don't understand a lot of what goes on . Please everyone have a happy thanksgiving, and God bless all for being concerned in what is happening in our country.
Someone needs to just burn the guy at the steak already for crying out load
You mean stake?
You mean loud?
You mean child molester?
BW and Old: You meanies! Just kiddin' - LOL!
Mr2england, gotta stop you here. The idea that everything that happens to you while growing up can be overcome is true only up to a certain point.
Some forms schizoprenia can be caused or exacerbated by mental and physical abuse, including head trauma, that occur when a child. Severity of the trauma and the mental capacity of the individual are also factors. Making generalized assumptions is not a good idea.
Not trying to comment on Sandusky here, just a general statement.
@mr2england.....
please step away from the crack pipe and go to bed....its time !
agree!!!
OMG ! So this pedophile has been having sex with children for 20 years and JUST now it is all coming out ? And like roaches at night there is another victim ever 2 days ? WOW and we all convict this guy before any trial ? God I just love America !
First of all being a child of abuse I can tell you first hand that my abuser still roams free. I am 38 yrs old People like that have a sick way of convincing a child that they hold power beyond their own parents and will convince a child of whatever is necessary to keep em quiet. Children do not lie about that kind of stuff. And as an adult I would do anything to prosecute the pervert that took my childhood away. It is unfortunate that the statute of limitations is over by 25 yrs. I say convict that bastard cause he did it. Child molesters do not stop at one and Im sure he is GUILTY!
trickson,
You either know NOTHING about pedophiles, or you know too much about them, possibly from experience? Either way, it is disgusting, the way you seem to be on his side....
He's guilty as hell.
Trickson just sounds like a criminal defense attorney, and I get that. Remember, "innocent until proven guilty" is the cornerstone of our US justice system - like it or not - so, it is really the prosecution that is on trial, not the defendant. Also remember, about 99% (I'm speculating) of Americans who heard about the Caylee Anthony murder were convinced that Casey Anthony would be found guilty - which means they believed the prosecution would prove its case "beyond a reasonable doubt." But, the jury acquitted her - which does not mean she was or is innocent. It just means the prosecution did not meet its "burden of proof" to obtain a guilty verdict. Personally, I am inclined to believe Sandusky is guilty as hell, as I believed (and still believe) Casey Anthony is guilty as hell. But, as long as the defendant pleads "not guilty" the prosecution still must prove its case in court if Sandusky is going to spend any time in prison. Hence, Trickson's comment regarding a trial. And, remember finally, all but 12 of us will be sitting outside of that jury box. Ultimately, it does not matter what we think....
Trickson, if you look at history, you will see that many pedophiles who are finally caught have been molesting children for 20 years or more! They know that children will be too ashamed, embarrassed, humiliated to tell anyone, and that is how they get away with doing it for so long. The fact that it has taken so long for the victims to come forward is not a surprise, and to call them derogatory names is totally uncalled for.
*Stake
I wonder if Sandusky was ever a victim himself ? Usually there is something in someones past that triggers all this.
Or could be he is just a frickin sick pervert!
@ B from E: Perhaps. I was thinking the same thing a few weeks ago. It's a known fact that abused kids sometimes grow up to be abusers themselves, and if you look at Jerry Sandusky's reported behavior of preying on emotionally needy kids aged 8 to 13, and behaving like a clingy, emotional child himself when an older teenage boy rejected his sexual advances, it does make one wonder if Sandusky himself was a pedophile's victim at the 8-to-13 age level. It's certainly food for thought.
It still doesn't excuse his behavior.
What about the DA that was investigating Penn State's President and Athletic Department, from Joe on down, regarding these 'unreported' molestations and he went 'missing' in 2005. Never heard from him again and never found the body. The only thing found was his destroyed laptop, without the hard disk, in the river. He received a phone call and left to meet 'someone.' They can add conspiracy and murder to these 'happy valley' charges.
That's info that is so under-published! When a situation includes murder you know there are some big fish to fry! Many people turned blind eyes and deaf ears for some pretty good reasons and this is just the tip of the iceberg. I can't wait until we get to the bottom of this whole stinking mess!!!!
Sandusky needs a cattle prod stuck up his as*, then castrated, then a dildo crammed down his throat, then life in prison, I'm sure he'll get the shank in there, prisoners hate child molesters, come on sentencing phase, give this creep what he deserves......Shogun
Shogun - if Sandusky is sent to prison he won't last a week - remember the Catholic priest - DOA
There is not much mention of Sandusky's wife's complicity in all this. They were taking boys with them on family vacations... Sandusky was getting into bed with boys.... Sandusky behaved oddly and inappropriately by showering with boys and putting his hand on their thighs while driving... Where was she during all this?! There is no way that woman did not know something wrong was going on.
yeah,that seems to be one of the many unanswered questions.Did she suspect/know that her hubby had a thing for young boys...and if so,why the *h* did she stay quiet for all these years? I can't believe she was a totally innocent bystander for the past 20 years, and even though people may try to paint her as a victim,something just doesn't add up. She had to have had an inkling that at some point all this would become public knowledge--she could be as guilty as her husband for covering-up for him all this time. Who knows eh..
She wasn't with him when this happened.
the wife was in the river denial, really deep.
this story just keeps getting worse by the day. I too agree,that hopefully he'll live long enough to stand trial.Let's hope,that after all the allegations are proven to be true that he's locked-up for the rest of his natural life.Even if the allegations aren't proven to be true,his life as Jerry Sandusky is over. If I was his wife I'd divorce him and start using my maiden name again.
So much for innocence until proven guilty........It's easy to understand why whiches were burned in Salem.........I can see why it was easy to burn Jews in Germany and massacre indians at wounded knee ..........Once the band wagon starts rolling there is no stopping it...........I do believe Sandusky is guilty but I have some serious doubts about all these Johnny come lately accusors...........If people are accusing this man falsely ......I hope everyone goes after them as hard as you attacked Paterno.
Did the Nazis burn Jews because they were all pedophiles?
The Holocaust occured because good people did not step-up to thwart a growing threat. No one will and no one should stand-up for Sandusky.
good reply disgusted.Couldn't have said it better myself....
BINGO!
So much for due process. We have found everone guilty via the internet, so do away with the judicial system.
You are too naive for anyone's good. I hope you are not a parent or in any way responsible for an innocent child.
ICO: The only naive people on here are the ones who refuse to believe that accusers will lie or try to profit from situations. The abuse scandals from the 80s and 90s have proven that. Many innocent people spent years in jail due to the same mentality that is taking place now.
Love how you qualify and quantify your response. You put words in my mouth. Did I say anything about false accusations? This situation makes it easy for anyone to "see" how Jews were eradicated? Go get a lobotomy, jackball.
Joe, I hear what you are saying, but I, and no one else here is claiming to be the judicial system. Sandusky will get his day in court and he will get his due process. Why in the world do I need that process or a jury to tell me what to make of the facts as they stand today? Even if he is found not guilty, I have every right to my opinion that he is. My opinion will make as much difference to Sandusky then as it does now, which is none.
I say a man who was seen raping a boy by someone who has absolutely nothing to gain by making such accusations, who was reported to have engaged in similar incidents witnessed by others, and who himself admitted to showering with young boys is guilty. Your insinutation that Sandusky is not getting his due process because I think that way does not make sense to me.
And BTW, one other thing the Casey Anthony trial showed us is that 99% of America can think you are guilty, and a jury of your peers can still find you innocent, so I am not going to pity Sandusky simply because that is the only way he can get a fair trial. It's obviously not. No one is here thinking they are going to sway the courts in this matter.
Some of these PEOPLE are children! By his Own admission He Showered Naked with them! Don't know about anyone else, but that would be enough for me if it was my child. Get A Rope!
@ Disgusted #21.9. I agree - I made a similar observation at #14.4. Comments made in a news forum is not a court of law. A criminal trial does not really determine the ultimate truth - it just determines whether or not the person accused of a crime will spend any time in prison for their alleged actions. First, the prosecution must prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt - a heavy enough burden in the Anthony case when 6 months went by before Caylee's body "came to light" - but when 4-20 years goes by?? ... It's not going to be an easy case to prove, and Sandusky's attorney knows that, no doubt. But, as the OJ Simpson criminal and civil trials showed, civil liability is an entirely different matter. Now we are talking "just money" not someone's freedom. Different burden of proof: Sandusky could be acquitted in a criminal trial, but he, Penn State, and Second Mile could all be held liable for big money damages in a civil suit (though for different reasons). As Yogi Berra once said, "It ain't over 'til it's over - and even then it ain't over." Comment how we will, the Sandusky debacle will play out in the courts with or without our thoughts on the matter.
Thanks for providing a much more techincal context of what I was saying. I had completely forgotten about the civil element in both this and the OJ case. It is rarely discussed as much as the criminal trials, but is obviously a sorely missing reality in our discussions about guilt/innocence. What's more, I abhor the idea of anyone thinking anything "solely" because some sort of governing or judiciary body thinks it so.
Are you kidding me!!!!! That's a bunch of bull.... Just because something has happened to you gowing up no matter what it is, it can be overcome. It doesn't give you the ok to do it to others, you know its wrong! If it was ok to do it, no one would get into trouble for it now would they! And if you can't overcome it, you should be locked up! I believe the death penalty should be carried out in these kind of cases, that way it prevents them from ever being released to do it again. People like this never recover, they ENJOY doing it, that's why they continue to do it.... There is no cure!
Mr2england, gotta stop you here. The idea that everything that happens to you while growing up can be overcome is true only up to a certain point.
Some forms schizoprenia can be caused or exacerbated by mental and physical abuse, including head trauma, that occur when a child. Severity of the trauma and the mental capacity of the individual are also factors. Making generalized assumptions is not a good idea.
Not trying to comment on Sandusky here, just a general statement.
Its mind boggling to think about how much power that athletic dept had. They should all be in jail. JoePa just got diagnosed with lung cancer. Can you say KARMA?
lung cancer? I thought it was colon cancer.
I thought I read lung cancer but either way it seems like bad karma considering the timing. Don't want to wish cancer on anybody. But he should have kept his athletic dept a little cleaner.
Terry. Lung cancer is karma for Joe ? You are a disgusting human being.
Not that it matters to you and the other mouth breathers that are enjoying the media carnival.
Oh, and BTW, Joe was not the athletic department director.
Michael Johnson, I do believe in what goes around comes around!!! poetic justice, since the lawyers in this land can't get it done.
So, you're saying everyone who has cancer has had it coming to them? What an awful statement.
Karma obviously means those boys deserved to be molested, maybe they were nazi's in their prior lives...
Or maybe Karma dosn't exist.
treatable cancer this is a typical ploy slight of hand to move the real disgusting issues away from themselves
Shogun357,
Damn man I'm with you on this; but maybe he needs something to punish him, too. He'd probably like some of what you mentioned...
It's called Karma, what we put out comes back, ten fold. In this case possibly a hundred fold.
If that were the case, then only good things would happen to good people and bad things would happen to bad people. That's NOT how it works.
Google: Canadian genocide. After your turkey dinner! In every aspect of society where humankind has a hand, there will be lawlessness, rationalization of one's actions. Man's inhumanity to man, always was, is and always will be.
Guilty until proven innocent does not extend to the public arena. One man said he saw another raping a boy. That man says he didn't. For now everyone has the right to believe one more than the other, and right now the majority believe the man who says he witnessed the crime, I'm sure in no small part due to the fact that there are numerous other incidents of a similar nature surrounding the accused, many of which were reported or on record before the big grand jury report came out.
Add to that the man admitting he showered with young boys. I don't need a trial to know what I think of this.
Great way of putting it out disgusted 356628. Sandusky has admitted it to the world that he showered with young boys. How inappropriate is that! Men should not be taking showers with children especially men in positions of authority that have no blood relations to these children. Even if they were related this is too weird to think about! Dang hes wrong!!!!!!!!
In Arizona if you see Anyone doing anything sexual to a child you can use Deadly Force to stop it.
So what would you do/think if it were your Child that told you that a man/woman just raped them?
While I'd like to believe myself to be a person who would not take the law into his own hands unless it was to stop an imminent or occuring crime, if this happened to my own children? I am fully willing to admit that I would be lying if I were to say I absolutely wouldn't.
Being a TSA agent must be dangerous in Arizona then.