I think the Occupiers ought to go to all the Multinational Big Boxes, fill their shopping carts with the hottest Chinese made gadgets, then abandon the carts near the bathrooms or else at the register saying "I'll be right back, must have left my wallet in the car".

If it weren't for the Corporate media, Corporatism would have been dead long ago. Its patently Un-American.

Naturally, protest by causing trouble, ideal way to get your point across

"Wealthiest 1 percent have 225 times more wealth than median household, study finds." New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg with a net worth of $18.1 billion in 2011, is also the 13th-richest person in the United States.

OWS is only asking to be heard. That is what the media does. That's fair.

Wow, Thebes; what a really mature idea! Maybe the OWs could also teepee some corporate guy's trees, or maybe let the air out of his tires. Geez, I'm really amazed with those brilliant ideas, you all are having trouble getting hired.

I could bitch and moan about what the rich have and I don't or I could better myself by putting more effort into it, but some in this country want what others have without working for it, we call them the OCCUPIERS.

Well, I'll bitch and moan, and I put effort into what I do for a living, because that's my constitutional right. And at least these Occupiers haven't asked for taxpayer bailouts, blatantly commit fraud, and outsource chunks of our industrial and clerical jobs overseas. Teabag Nation had their rally (firearms and all)...but thousands of OWS, and no firearm, and yet they're a threat to civilization? I find that really hard to believe.

No firearms just riot police, but I know you'll blame the police for that, because the occupy movement is "peaceful"

I don't believe the banks or corporations "asked" for bailouts, I think it was the left controlled government who said they were "too big to fail"

Joe, left has nothing to do with it.

Bush also agreed with them, he could have just vetoed TARP. Instead he signed it off. Both parties are to blame and are part of the problem.

Wm Sanders: "And at least these Occupiers haven't asked for taxpayer bailouts, blatantly commit fraud, and outsource chunks of our industrial and clerical jobs overseas. Teabag Nation had their rally (firearms and all)...but thousands of OWS, and no firearm, and yet they're a threat to civilization? I find that really hard to believe."

Really? Thousands of OWS and no firearms but plenty of rapes, sexual assaults, theft, drugs....yeah, they are a threat to civilization. All the Tea Party rallies with their "firearms and all" and the only violence was the SEIU members who physically assaulted a TP protester....TP protesters cleaned up after themselves, broke no laws, @!$%# on no police cars, raped no one but yet the Dems criticized them for exercising their rights to "be heard." I swear, liberals must be born hypocrites because they are so damn good at it!!!!!

Sure, JDW. Ask Lauren Valle about those "peaceful" Tea Party protesters...

Really Toasty, how does Tea Party compare to huge amount of arrests of Occupy Protesters engaging in civil disobedience and multiple crimes against persons and property. How many arrests did the Tea Party marches and protests incur?

Your out of whack reasoning is showing badly. Better get a shot tetanus shot in the brain for that disease or better yet a brain transplant.

thenewstoday,

Everybody in America will fail your test, except maybe the crazy nut who lives in a shack. Also, shares offered to the public have less voting or no voting rights than what the board has. I've gone this route of protest and suffice it to say it didn't do a damn thing.

@JDW

Your partiship ignorance is astounding, The Tea Party was formed out of disagreement with the Repbublicans bail out. But in fact, it was a democrat congress, who initially had turned down Bush's bailout and then turned around and passed their own version. So get your facts straight.

@toasty

Still throwing the gasoline on the fire. Here is a link to the incident that you spoke of:

www.redstate.com/rs_insider/2010/10/27/exclusive-video-lauren-valle-before-the-head-stomp-vid/

Ah, jobob and spider ... still trolling and demonstrating your complete lack of a grasp of what the issues are.

Carry on, your masters appreciate your efforts.

Tim

While I think little of OWS, I like your comments. We are all Americans and all have a right to free speech.

I don't think it's the wealthy who dislike OWS. I think its the hard working middle and upper middle class who sacrificed and experienced bad times with no handouts, who dislike OWS.

We all see the problems and know they are there. We all would like to work together to solve them. We feel OWS is pointing the finger at everyone BUT themselves.

If they took the American way to heart, they would work together with other Americans to solve this, not criticize the successful for bring successful, and then ask them to pay more taxes to pay more entitlements.

But I agree with you God Bless America. I really just wanted to respond to your comment and agree. i got a little carried away. All the turkey and beer.

You do not have a right if you break the law. OWS have no permits, rape, steal, piss in public and destroy public and private property. What a bunch of "heroes". WHAT A JOKE!!

Lar,

I am middle class and I have worked for what I have but I agree with OWS to some extent. The economy is broken right now and has been since 2007 or 2008. It is hyper inflated and riding on a wave of feelings instead of concrete data.

Anytime someone as much as screams boo from Europe the markets fall. That is not a functioning market, it is one running on emotions.

The other way we know the economy is broken is that the rich are getting richer while the middle class is getting poorer. Why are the rich still gaining wealth? In order for them to gain wealth the middle class must spend that money. If the middle class is poorer there is less money flowing into their pockets.

We also are still condoning the practice of out sourcing. This is job killer #1, regulations have nothing to do with it. Corporations see that they can make a product for less in China and sell if for the same money here in the USA. Instead of doing to moral thing and employing Americans they sellout those jobs to the Chinese who will work for essentially nothing. They then import the products back and make a killing in profits.

OWS has no problem with fair capitalism, what they are protesting is our corrupt corporations that put profits ahead of anything else and make unethical business decisions that hurt our country. They are also up in arms at the financial sector that has so far been able to buy their way out of any prosecution for knowingly destroying our economy in 2008.

@Paul

As I said to someone elsewhere, the actions of the few do not indicate the actions of the many (that is the paraphrased version).

The commenters working the 'something for nothing' accusations here are paid sellouts of their own best interests.

LAR, the people in OWS are middle class.

I'll never understand the people who say that because they experienced harsh and bad times, that means everyone else should be forced to as well. Why? Why should people have to suffer just because you did? If I get cancer and die without being able to get treatment, should I hope that everyone else does too? No, I'd rather that things be done to prevent it from happening to anyone else, actually...

Tea party protests were not always obeying of the law either. There has been incidences of violence during them too. Of course there's going to be a few bad apples in every bunch, some OWS protests act out of hand obviously, but that doesn't mean they ALL do, just like not ALL tea party protesters are violent gun-toting rednecks.

Double...provide evidence of violence at a Tea party Rally

LiberalLies,

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1118/violence-at-tea-party-rally-bare-knuckle-politics-in-the-streets

OWS is middle class, my ass. OWS is ruled by anarchists and criminals. In NYC, prisoners released from Rikers Island daily wind up in OWS tents to rob, steal, and rape with impunity, even police protection. These people want to overthrow the government and replace it with communists and socialists so that we can be like the European countries. These criminals are most definitely not patriots. They deserve to be locked up. Its time for the taser to be applied liberally so that the pain will drive them from their tents into their wealthy parent's homes once again.

In my opinion OWS is not just Middle Class it is multi classes with one thing in common. They are all unhappy with the current situation AND they all want to blame anyone else but themselves.

They blame Wall Street, Banks, big corporations, the government, the wealthy, school boards, universities, the military, other countries, etc. They never look in the mirror to blame someone.

Lar, is your opinion that OWSer’s should blame themselves for their situation based on belief that they have ample opportunity to succeed and if they have not succeeded it is no ones fault but there own? I would understand that strain of thinking if OWS were specifically about succeeding via the welfare state. While, yes, I do believe America is still the land of opportunity, as corporations collude with our elected officials to increase their bottom line and we do nothing to fight against such collusion than we can't hope that America will remain, for much longer, the land of opportunity. This is as much, or more, about the future of our country than it is about immediate gratification of our current needs.

And really why not place blame where blame is to be laid. Why not blame the trouble makers for making trouble? That includes the OWSer’s who are looking out for their own self interests, the government officials who take campaign/bribe money from corporate and union donors, the corporation who work tirelessly to undermine their employees in order to increase their bottom line, the voters who are blindly following party lines and the people with great solutions but stand on the sidelines.

My main concern with our current system is not the disparity of wealth or lack of a “fairer” tax code but that our jobs market does not entirely benefit the America population. Instead it benefits the “job creators” who exploit the population.

Let us take a look at our jobs market. I do not have specific statistics but I can see trends. The amount of jobs that offer good pay and benefits are disappearing as we see corporation rising in power. Corporations monopolize the job market by pushing out competition and using regulations against smaller, less funded businesses. We see this when big box stores come to smaller cities. The local businesses cannot compete and are pushed out. Once those businesses are closed and there is little hope for any new start-up to compete well against such well-funded corporation, that corporation monopolizes the job market. The type of position and pay a corporation offers to their employees compared to a small business is noticeable. While a corporation is solely interested in the bottom line, they make every attempt to minimize the cost their employees are. They will not offer full-time positions, they will not pay well, and they will not offer benefits. Now if we see that there is a rising trend in the jobs market towards positions that are ill-paid and without benefits, while the providers of those jobs make billions of dollars and are backed by politicians to continue to steam-roll the population into menial jobs, don’t you think we should be concerned about the power and clout wielded by those corporation. Now, to suggest that we take a corporation to task and close them down would be unfair. What would make sense though is if our elected officials stopped cow-towing to their campaign donors (corporations) and started to look at what will benefit their constituents best. Closing down the corporations is not the answer. The answer is reforming the system that benefits the corporation, and implement a system that works for the general population. If our politicians worked on behalf of their constituents rather than their donors the rise of corporation would not be so ominous and likely they would be hampered by the growth of local business. The real concern is not disparity of wealth or lack of a “fairer” tax code but that our jobs market would benefit the America population not the “job creators” who exploit the population.

The TEA Party got coverage because they protest the government and the way they tax and spend, they protested our government peacefully without breaking laws, not corporations who are in the business of making money for themselves and their shareholders.

If you want to protest corporations then quit buying or using their products or services and protest peacefully and legally to get your point across to more people. Then you might get more respect from the masses that right now think of you as lazy freeloaders that want something for nothing.

JOEZBOB: The Tea Party is nothing but a front for the Koch Brothers who put up all the money for your cohorts to travel and assemble. Hardly the "grassroots" movement you would like everyone to believe.

And most of these kids are very well educated and peacable. I was down at Ground Zero two days before the cops moved all these kids out. I spent quite a bit of time there and spoke to a number of them as well as a number of cops. I saw no violence, no damaging of property of any kind. These are idealistic young kids for the most part. Many have gone to college, incurred monsterous student loan debt (which thanks to George Bush who was bought and paid for by his big money buddies, not even sickness or bankruptcy will nullify) and now cannot find any kind of a decent job.

Boy, that Supply Side, Trickle Down economics is sure working out great, eh buddy??? Guess we'll have to give the rich even more and bigger tax breaks so Wall Street and Bank of American can screw us even worse, the next time around.

All these left-wing talking points are hurting my eyes and ears. A whole generation of whiners blaming someone else. Why is it not the institutions that charge outrageous tuitions at fault for your monsterous loans, oh yeah, because they are the overpaid professors that taught you to blame someone else. Just because you got edumicated doesn't give you the right to a "decent" job, you have to get that yourself.

Yeah! They tried to destroy us. How's that working out for you. We actually had 1 million people in DC. Hundreds of thousands other times. We broke no laws, littered or destroyed nothing and suffered lies from the liberal media and progressive politicians every step of the way. We are still here and stronger. It's over for you guys. NOVEMBER 2012. I cannot wait.

I do understand some of their frustration but the question is
Who exactly is the 1%

After hearing and seeing the mobs of protesters unhappy with the 1%, a
reasonable person might be inclined to think about looking at this situation
from different perspectives, and ask who really is that top 1%.

For example, lets take a look at teachers, and other public union workers, who
are able to pad their pensions, and receive retirement health care at relatively
low cost. For sake of example, lets take a pension amount of $80,000. The question
is how many public workers receive that amount of pension compared to the total
amount of workers in the country who do not receive that amount, or receive nothing.
I would think that would place any of those people in the top 1% bracket. Most of those
people I would consider average people, not rich. But if we are all in the mind set
to attack the 1%, why does anyone need a pension over that amount? Should the government
heavily tax anything over that amount, in the name of fairness, so that it can be given to
those who receive a low or no pension? Maybe better yet, the state should also place a high
tax on anything over $80,000 as a give back to the local schools. Really why would anyone
object to that tax if it is "for the children".

Another example are the students themselves. If you take the amount of kids currently in
college in the USA, compare that to all of the kids of that age in the world, I would think
that they would be in the top bracket. Does each student attending college here, mean that some
kid in a another country is deprived because of that? Should the government limit the amount
of college spots in this country, again for the reason of fairness? Maybe some of the protesters
should drop out of college because they certainly do not appear to be attending classes.

Another term that we hear from the protesters are that the companies that the top 1% are running
are placing profits over people and that the profits are excessive. You could say that anyone
of these protesters, who has any kind of job, is doing exactly the same thing. Your time has no
value untill you find a job, where that employer will pay you money, in trade for your time.
Therefore, one would profit 100% for all wages earned. Is that excessive? Maybe instead of
protesting, or working, why don't they do volunteer work for the sick and the poor?

I will agree that there are things that are not right. Most of the current problems are the
result of politicians (both parties) passing bad legislation without thouroly thinking about
the ramificatinos of the laws, and then when things do go bad, passing the blame on to someone else.
Maybe the protestors should be camping out outside the white house and congress, instead of
where they are.

Thank you Joebob. The State of NC is looking to raise tuition 40% at all the State colleges...40%...three years into Obama's presidency. Guess that's a trickle down effect of Bush too. Amazing!!..

I didn't find a job in my major even with a Masters degree..yet I graduated. Worked two jobs and kept looking...Never once blaming anyone. I kept trying until I got a good job, and yet my company is offshoring..am I happy, NO...but then again we couldn't compete with the union of North America. It was simply costing to much to produce vs over seas.

The youth of today grew up with the internet...something I didn't have when I was growing up...and while it's been a wonderful invention...it's also open the doors to corporations being able to look for cheaper work production around the world at virtually real time. Americans need to forgo the I'M ENTITLED attitude and ask what they will do to get paid. And YES...I cleaned toilets with a masters degree...my parents taught me that you earn your money, and nothing is ever beneath you..cause you never know when you will be at the bottom looking up. I think too many of this kids came from households that "provided" for them at their every whim..and now they are expecting it. I would love to see a breakdown of the makes and models of cars that most of these folks arrived at their "occupy" homes in..for me...I'll just take the bus again and go help serve soup at the local soup kitchen and be Thankful for what I have.

Joe, they're not against corporations existing, they're against corporations having such a strong influence in politics by buying off politicians. There's a difference you're deliberately ignoring. You don't have to give up everything ever made by a corporation in order to be allowed to criticize them. People who assert that you can't have anything made by a corporation or else your criticism of corporations is to be dismissed, are not doing anything but trying to silence that criticism.

If we donated money in the same level we do to get slimeball politicians elected, we could virtually end poverty in this country. Best estimate for what people spent in the 2008 election is $1.75 billion. And that's just what's on the books, not including what independent group raised and spent and shady backroom deals. And now with the Citizen's United decision and the ability of super PACs to raise limitless anonymous money, we will see the flood gates open. We won't have a clue how much is coming in or who our puppet masters are. But both corrupt parties stand to benefit, so there is no incentive to change anything.

I don't know if that's what OWS stands for, but it sure has me ticked off.

Southerngent, it's not the advent of the interenet that is helping corporation offshore our jobs, it's the trade agreements that our politicians pass on behalf of their campaign donors. Yah, the corporations. Our politicians sold us our for the myth of higher GDP. It doesn't seem to matter to them if most of that wealth is held by a small minority while the American public go down the road of poverty.

Trade deals are notoriously designed to benefit large corporations but in the end tend to effect general populations negatively. Corporations are the ones who the government consults when drafting trade agreements, so of course they are designed to benefit themselves at any cost. And if we think a corporation is going to be altruistic and look out for the interests of their countrymen then we don't understand the corporation. I would say trade agreements help a corporation to offshore. With lowered, to no, tariffs applied to imports why wouldn't they go to a cheaper labor market. The way to keep businesses here is to keep the tariffs in place so that the cost of importing is too high.

This is one example of what our political and corporate class have worked together on, that has, in the end, effected the American public negatively.

No Alias..I beg to differ. I work in the industry and actually manage two offshore teams. It IS the internet and the ability to be "real time" anywhere in the world at anytime that has hurt this economy. Yes..there may be some trade agreements that hurt us. Lets be honest. The history of FREE TRADE has existed for decades..long before the internet. But it was never feasible until the birth of the internet and the world wide web...Then corporations could monitor operations "real time"...believe me...I have known for 8 years the cause and effect. I have lived it...AM I happy...Hell No...but I have also maintained a job. So I know the real cause for off shoring. And YES..Another factor we consider is non-unionized labor...Here's a Hint. It's much cheaper. Does that mean it's better? Upper management doesn't consider that...it's the bottom dollar!! Build it once for cheaper and they are all in...So MAYBE...just maybe we Americans should look in the mirror and really consider what we as a nation are really willing to do...do we fight for our jobs and do what it takes to keep this country on top as I have done during my years of work...or do we continue to think we are better than everyone else and we'll only accept those jobs that allow us to drive the BMW's? By the way...I've never owned a BMW...I drive a mini-van and I have 3 kids...and I love it..and THEM. And I'll do whatever it takes for me to provide for them and give them what they need to survive. Granted...what they need may not be what they WANT. But that's life. Pay attention Occupy Folks!

Bravo Thebes!

So true.

I think the main reason for Australia and New Zealand's lack of illegal immigrants (which is not true anyway) is that they don't share a land border with a failed state. They are in the middle of the ocean, it's alittle more difficult to get in.

DRUDGE REPORT:

Hey DRECK, even on this day of Thanksgiving you can't find it in yourself to show just a little compassion for those who find themselves on the outer fringes of society. But hey, anyone who buys into a Bozo like Matt Dreck (wish he would lose that hat, he's already sufficiently dorky looking) and has to repeat the words of a fat slob like Newt Gingrich is most likely completely lacking in that critical organ, namely a heart.

And I guess you miss the point entirely, many of these kids CANNOT FIND A JOB because of your former fearless leader, Dubya, who trashed our entire economy and now folks like you bitch that Obama doesn't cure it all overnight. Boy, those tax cuts for the rich really worked out great, eh buddy???

What specifically did Dubya do to cause the economic downturn? Doesn't Congress actually control the purse strings? Didn't the Dems take control of the Congress (both Houses) in the 2006 elections? If you're going to point fingers and blame someone else (the way liberals always do), at least be honest and point those fingers at the right people!!!!

Thebes: Could you tell me where to buy an American made TV or computer? Perhaps if Americans built quality products at an affordable price, I'm sure we would buy more American...Who built your Mac? Who built your Ipad or Ipod? Who built your cell phone? How about that big flat screen you probably have?

JDW,

Bush allowed laxing of financial regulation laws, he allowed TARP to pass, and a hundred other things. Presidents have the final say so on any bill unless Congress overrules their veto. Obama also has made many mistakes, such as allowing the BTC to continue.

Both Presidents and both parties have some blame in what happened in 2008 and since then, there is no way to deny it. The problem is fixing the reason those mistakes were allowed to be made and why no one corrected them nor stopped them from occurring.

It is a mix of both corrupt politicians and the influence of private sector money. Both must be dealt with before we can fix our Government and our economy, however both are going to be nearly impossible to accomplish because they feed off each other. Even if we vote out everyone, there will be a percentage of corrupt officials that will take their place and others that are easily corruptible.

Take out the source of corruption first will make removing those corrupted much easier in relation because newer entries into the government will have no way of becoming corrupted. In short cut off the balls of the money supply unit and we can weed out the corrupt bastards pretending to be representatives of their constituents.

JEFF: I think it would be far better if their "excrement" was dumped on your head. You deserve it cause you're earned it.

In case you forgot pal, today is Thanksgiving. One would hope you might feel just a tiny bit more foriving and charatable on a day like this, but then, you are a Right Winger so compassion and understanding are not your strong suits, are they Jeff???

Talk about the calling the kettle black.............

Feel free to ship back that Social Security check I sent you this month.

Maybe, just maybe, I'd have more compassion with the if this movement wasn't started by a liberal anti consumerism thinking Canadian. Kalle Lasn, funded by George Soros.

I only have compassion for those who try to help themselves, not the ones who whine about fairness. Where in all of life does it say life is fair?

Everyone knows are political system is broken. Broken by the partisanship, the influence peddling, the over spending.

Don't like how our governemnt is run, do the American way and go out and VOTE!

They did, Tea. Remember the slaughter wrought upon the Tea Party this month?

VIEWER: Silly me. And I thought exercising our First Ammendment rights with peaceable assembly was what this country was all about.

It is, if you have a valid point.

VIEWER Because YOU don't agree with them they have no point???

I think they have a point alright and a damn good one. Evidently you are OK with the dramatic shift in wealth in this country since the Patron Saint of the GOP was in office. Namely, one third rate movie actor who dereguated eveything in this county 30 years ago. The areas he missed were covered by Dubya and hence, the biggest meltdown since the Great Depression, which come to think of it, was given to this nation courtesy of the very same GOP.

If you fail to see the growning disparity in wealth it is only through a stubborn refusal to look at the facts. The rich have gotten richer and richer, the middle class is losing ground and the poor are getting their heads stomped on. Just look at the numbers. The wealth have never had it so good since the 1920's which interestingly, just preceded the Great Depression. Do you see a pattern emerging here???

The GOP gave the gift of the "surplus" on a platter to Bill Clinton.

In return for the favor he gave us the " home for everyone regardless of credit or background" program.

THAT is what started the meltdown.

NOT the GOP.

Ozzie, when they start protesting peacably, we'll start listening. But as long as they're raping, stealing, assaulting, destroying private/public property, they can kiss my arse!!!

You know how the GOP got "their" surplus? Raising taxes.

Most of them DO protest peacefully. Obviously not ALL of them are going to, though. Just because there's a few people who weren't peaceful doesn't mean NONE of the thousands and thousands of people in that movement are.

I'll never understand the people who say that because they experienced harsh and bad times, that means everyone else should be forced to as well. Why? Why should people have to suffer just because you did? If I get cancer and die without being able to get treatment, should I hope that everyone else does too? No, I'd rather that things be done to prevent it from happening to anyone else, actually...

Tea party protests were not always obeying of the law either. There has been incidences of violence during them too.

DIDOM: So your suggestion is that they "run around naked"???

And just because someone has certain material things does not mean they cannot protest corporate greed. But then, corporate greed is what the Right is all about, now isn't it???

You just don't like kids protesting. But I'll bet you were fine with all the fat slob Tea Partier's running around looking like the fools they are by wearing tri-cornered hats. And all those dummies are too numbe to know that their "Grassroots" movement was all a trumped up joke, paid for the Koch Brothers so they could make even more billions by getting "Big Government" to do away with yet more EPA guidelines.

Everyone is greedy, even you.

You just don't want to admit it.

Greed is not the issue here.

If you want to protest something, protest ignorance in America.

This land was "made for you and me".

You can make of yourself what you wish.

If you wish to camp out in tents, make fools of yourself so be it.

VIEWER: OK, I'm confused.

Why on earth would you quote a line from the great Woody Guthrie and then disparage these young people protesting??? Woody was the spiritual grandfather of these kids or did you not know that?

Woodie was from my generation and he was merely a poet out for a buck.

He made quite a few if I remember.

And yes, you do seem to be confused.

VIEWER: My confusion only stems from your incredible ignorance, no other reason sir.

And I would take issue with your assessment of Woody. He was in it for far more than just money.

And if he is indeed from "your generation" then the only logical conclusion I can reach is that you are one miserable, dispeptic and yes even hateful old man (or woman as the case may be).

And you would be wrong on all accounts.

Woody "appeared" to be in it all for more than the money.

He suckered you in just like modern day politicians have done to many for years.

And no, I am not the "old man" who you describe.

I am merely trying to make a new generation see the promise that America still has.

VIEWER: Please, don't do me any favors, OK???

You encounter many people on this vine who know nothing but hatred and anger. You, I am sad to say are clearly one them. I choose not to live in your dark, unhappy world.

Let's see, whose the most hateful of the sorry bunch of fools running for the GOP nomination? Probably Gingrich, he must your man, eh fella? LOL

Whatcha gonna do when Mitt "I alter my position every other week" Romney becomes your party's nominee. I'm looking forward to hearing his sorry assed excuses for why his health care bill with the individual mandate (devised by none other than Newt himself) is the slightest bit different from what Obama did. I guess you could say that Willard was for it before he was against it. I recently heard an interview with the guy who actually created the nuts and bolts of Romneys program. He's from M.I.T. and he said there is not a dimes worth of differnence between the two programs.

But I guess you won't be happy until the GOP has destroyed Medicare as well as Social Security and we have elderly people dying in the street. Bet that would really brighten your day up, now wouldn't it?

Look at yourself, Mr. Hatred. You hate America. You hate success. You feel guilty and hate we are powerful. You probably hate your helplessness to counter ideas. How do you solve this problem of the "rich".

Oh man, misers are funny. Frustrating but funny.

JEFF Sorry buddy, I already have far more than a clue.

Of course you don't have any "sympathy" or even understanding for these people. That's what makes you a Reich Winger. That's why your crowd cheers at the mention of Rick Perry having put to death over 200 prisoners. That's why you cheer when the subject of what to do with people who have no health insurance and you shout "let them die". That's the way your crowd is wired. It's all "I, me, mine and screw eveyone else". You wouldn't be a Right Winger if you felt differently.

Health insurance is not a right.

The death penalty is.

If you kill someone, you have the right to be killed in return.

It has nothing to do with "wings".

It has more to do with the way life really is.

VIEWER: More hatred and bile from the angry old man.

Health care is indeed a right which is why almost every other industrialized nation in the world sees fit to ensure all it's citizens are guaranteed decent health care. Which is the same reason most nations have banned the death penalty becuase it is barbaric and a relic from a different age. But hey, if you insist, I'll make exceptions for President Dick Cheney and Vice President George Bush to be tried and executed for the war criminals they are. Ya happy now???

Is a poor person entitled to police protection??? If you are being mugged do the cops ask to see proof of your payment of taxes??? Hardly, and health care is no different. In time, this nation will be dragged, with curmudgeons like you kicking and screaming into the 21st Century.

Ozzie: Don't show your ignorance. You cannot hide your a progressive/socialist who does not see how every country who you rave about is broke. We demand responsibility from people. We are tired of bailing worthless do nothings out of their misery. Safety net? Sure. Cradle to grave? Not on your life. Every thing the Federal Government touches is in ruins. We will dismantle it and get the people who count back in charge. Then its get a job, be productive or starve.

PAUL: Just curious, do you or are you planning on collecting Social Security and/or Medicare? Cause if you do, you're well on your way to being a Socialist.

I guess your type won't be happy until they see grandmothers begging in the street. To think that people like you still inhabit this earth in this day and age. How depressing.

Everything the government touches it ruins you say??? You mean like the Space Program? Or perhaps the Manhattan Project? Or maybe Eisenhower's (was he a Repubican???) interstate highway system. Or maybe you mean the Hoover dam or perhaps when our nation was the "arsenal of democracy" and saved the world. Had the GOP had it's way in 1940 they would have gleefully sold Britain down the river in which case we would have been facing one hell of a dilemma. No, it was the greatest president of the 20th century that made sure we were getting ourselves in shape to face the Nazi onslaught. And he did it with Republicans kicking and screaming every inch of the way.

I will gladly take back, with 5% interest compounded, every dime my wife and I put into a system the politicians promised to keep funded. I would be better off. We and our employer paid for it. Starting with Johnson, they stole it. There would be 7 trillion dollars there if they did not spend it on welfare. What I am talking about is cradle to grave support paid for by the taxpayers for programs not funded by a special tax. Food, healthcare, housing, etc are not "RIGHTS".

Yo, Ozzie...learn history, dude. FDR reluctantly entered WWII while Repubs were encouraging him to honor our commitments to Britain and France. Also, FDR was a racist bastard. And his New Deal actually prolonged the depression. WWII brought us out of it, not FDR's socialist policies!

Got any citations to back that up, JDW?

That's right, I didn't think so.

So you're happy to take money from tax-payers by taking more money than you paid, you're happy to use the services of fire fighters and police that are supported by tax-dollars, you thrive off of forms of socialism, but you just don't like certain kinds of socialism.

So because one person on Wikipedia says FDR made the depression worse, you just believe it blindly? You never thought to back up that world view with facts or data?

TNT, children let other people tell them how the world is, not adults. You should have been taught by now how to understand the world around you without someone else telling you what to think.

CLOWN: Hey there, my bigoted and hateful friend. You know what? That "Muslim wannabee" has killed a hell of a lot more Muslim extremists than your boy Dubya could ever manage. That's gotta hurt, huh???

I do not know about that Sonny. The last estimate I heard from the anti Bushies was we killed 100,000 rag heads when we went into Iraq in just 60 days. Pretty good tally.

Paul, Spot on and do not forget the ones we got to kill in1991.

PAUL: Another whiner about the "Liberal Media" eh?

The Tear Party is a "true grass roots movement"??? LMFA You're kidding right? Your "grassroots movement" has been bought and paid for since day one by the Koch Brothers and a handful of operatives in the GOP like Karl Rove and a few Congressman.

As for people getting a job or starving, that's just the point you nitwit, many of these people have gone to school, gotten degrees and now cannot find jobs becuase YOUR CROWD destroyed our entire economy.

Tell me, where the hell was your fiscal conservancy when Bush was bankrupting us with TWO UNFUNDED WARS, an UNFUNDED DRUG BILL (which was nothing but a give away to the drug companies) and handing out huge tax cuts to the rich during wartime??? Where were you? How come I never heard of the Tea Party until 15 minutes after Obama was sworn it?

How come all the fat old slobs in Tri Cornered hats were not out causing a riot when Dick Cheney said "Deficits don't matter"? Where were you then Paul? Can you name me another war in our history where we cut taxes? You can't, cause it never happened. So your people start two wars which are completely unpaid for and go way, way over the original cost estimates and yet you say nothing. How come? I'd say that you got religion just a little too late in the game for me to believe a word that the Tea Party spouts. All you've succeeded in doing is getting some truly crackpot congressman elected who shut down the government and for the first time in our history, had our credit rating downgrade. Brilliant! Keep up the good work.

Talk to Frank/Dodd and obama(I spent 4 times what Bush did in 25% of the time) the jerk-off, about the economy. I guess that a Democratic Congress helped fund these wars doesn't matter. Yeah, I guess since we found some conservative rich guys similar to Soros on your side. That must really piss you off. The Federal government should be shut down. Education, EPA, Energy, HUD, Medicaid i.e.. all discretionary spending is now on the cutting block. We are coming for it and you cannot stop us. That is why you are angry and have no ideas but "TAX THE RICH". What a joke. PS: The Tea Party started before Bush was out of office. We did not like McCain either.

That's the Tea Party. A grass roots movement based on American principles. Smaller, community based government.

AW: Sorry, I don't get your drift. Must have gone right over my head.

Please explain why "you are glad every problem we face, etc."

Paul,

I am not disagreeing with you at all. I just think extreme partisan behavior, from either side, is what is truly hurting our nation the most. Clearly Ozzie is a very hate filled individual. And it is too bad. He probably is right on some issues. But when someone, again from either side, just spouts hate after hate, you kind of loose any good message they have in all of the noise and rhetoric they are producing.

Ozzie,

I think both parties have made their fair share of mistakes.....not just one. Both republicans and democrats are why we are having issues. Both have also good things to offer. I think extreme finger pointing and partisan thinking will keep us spinning our wheels. That is what I was trying to say.

I hope everyone had a safe and happy Thanksgiving

Aw13: Thank you. Same to you and your family.

From a war vet. The only fools are in these OWS camps. They have no principles. They have no ideas. Their solutions are what caused the problems in the first place. They are a waste of time. The liberal media is searching for heroes. This is the best they can do?. Like I said before, what a JOKE!

I came out of the Military and had a Job the SAME DAY. Why you ask? Because I was willing to take ANY JOB I could until the right one came along. I wiped ASS for a living. Now OZZIE, Tell the OWS in OZ land to go get a JOB.

Sorry CM, but your boy killed the economy in 2008, so now jobs are hard to come by.

But feel free to ship that Social Security check back if you're so upset about socialism. You took it out of my pocket while accusing me of wanting a handout, and I sure as @!$%# could use the money.

Dan, Your brilliant, a legend in your own mind! Who cares about the jobless, they aren't contributing to society right? Typical OWS, if they can't find work then they would be better off imprisoned! Why should we be expected to worry about the jobless when we ourselves have jobs, it's their own fault if none will hire them. They look for easy money because their too stupid to get hired by normal means. The dummies actually think they can find a job like us! I'm good and that what's really important:P! Signed, The Deserving 1%, Hooray for me and screw you!!! Our motto "Let Them Eat Cake!" This is the attitude of America in 2011, far cry from the initial intentions of our forefathers... so sad!

Nerm, And everyday people like me will sacrifice our lives for YOUR FREEDOM. Earn you way in AMERICA that's what this Country stands for. If you REALLY want a job you will take one. Now quit your winning you pus and tell your OWS friends to Suck it up, Improvise, Adapt,And Overcome.

Well judging from their comments they are far removed from the 1%, but sadly they will benefit from the bravery of those willing to stand up to injustice. If we were at another point in time these would be the peasants sniveling all the way to the British Empire with their tax money in hand...cowards!

Obviously Danny understands the issues and supports the movement. There are many others from the 1% supporting it as well. This is not about who supports it, its about why the movement is happening in the first place.

Have you seen this? It's a letter in response to the 53% Guy. It really says it all:

Well, I guess they didn't post the link. If you look up the 53% Guy and read the response letter, it says it all.