he got his start as a democrat.

(republicans wouldnt have him)

No, he got his start as a "Dixiecrat" as did Strom Thurmond, DeMint, Trent Lott, Haley Barbour, etc. Now all the "Dixiecrats" are Republicans unless, like the late Senator Byrd, they changed their stripes (Byrd had a 100% positive voting record on Civil Rights; Jeff Sessions had 0%)

VACYMRO is correct here. Because Lincoln was a republican the south was solidly democratic and solidly racist until the late 1940's when Harry Truman decided to (gasp) desegregate the American military. From that point on the racist southern democrats or "Dixiecrats" had no political party so to speak. Strom Thurmond ran against Truman in 1948 as a third party segregationist. They drifted politically throughout the 50's until they decided to take over the moribund republican party in the south. Now, as VACYMRO points out, the racist, segregationist, crypto-KKK southern politicians are solidly republican. They may call themselves the "teaparty" or whatever but it has simply been a total reversal of political affiliation over the last half century. Keck obviously knows nothing or cares not at all about American political history.

Bluelake,
Your post is why I read the forums! Well written, accurate, and you did it without name calling or advocating violence. Thank you.

Teabaggers step up and give this guy some money for his cause. We promise not to call it Socialism.

well, most kkk supporting democrats like al gore sr and kkk big wig robert byrd were democrats their whole life.

....after all it was byrd and the democrats who filibustered the civil rights act of 1964, republicans passed it.

whoops.

...but i do like it when democrats have to learn their history the hard way. lol

No need to shoot him . The CIA has a way of makeing people disappear .. Never know he might turn up in IRAQ or somether part of the middle east . They would love a guy like him..

And the "pro-white" is worse than "anti-black". The latter is against those of African descent. The former is against anyone not Caucasian.

an·ti

   [an-tahy, an-tee] Show IPA

noun, plural -tis.
a person who is opposed to a particular practice, party, policy,action, etc.

pro

¹    [proh] Show IPA adverb, noun, plural pros.

adverb
1.
in favor of a proposition, opinion, etc.

A+ for comprehending anti-, but I think you should review pro-.

@Mud . . . Understanding the intended meaning of sentences can be challenging to some. pro-white = anti-everything but white. Does this help?

Will someone please, please tell Mr. Duke his ancestors walked out of Africa like everyone eles's? They just walked out a bit earlier than some.

rainlady2: Though you are atnropologically correct in your statement, it will not sway Duke's belief in the white man being created in the image of God and the black man being an evolutionary decendant of apes.

So how should the general public deal with Duke? I suggest we ignore him. Why? He does have an audience, and they will always listen to him. However, Duke cannot get the message out beyond his audience unless we, the opposition, listen, thus becoming unwitting members of his audience. Nothing is more frustrating to a public speaker than a hostile audience walking out on him. Believe it or not, our chatting about Duke is what helps him be both heard and perpetuated.

Let me finish with a quote: "It is the job of the thinking people not to listen to their executioners". Albert Camus

@Old soldier... No that doesn't help, because its false.

Being Pro-anything doesn't automatically make you Anti-anything.

Pro-choice doesn't automatically make you Anti-adoption.

Pro-alternative energy doesn't make you Anti-fossil fuels.

Pro by definition is only in favor and Anti by definition is only opposing.

Take a look at this guy to join an organization normally associated with violence, hate, and stupidity. Then use the knowledge he gains for free from society and changes the face of the same organization to fit in.

Just because society doesn't agree with his fundamental values doesn't mean he is not intelligent. Be smarter than him and use your own brain to form your own opinion.

Indeed. What business does he have spouting his hateful rhetoric in Germany. They don't need him there and we don't need him here.

formerstew: Once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic. Same goes for the KKK. Can anyone imagine there exists former KKK members? One racial comment is too much for us, ten are not enough for The Duke of Hate.

You can take the boy out of the bedsheet, but you can't take the racism out of his soul.

Edward,

You speak like a true patriot and savvy of our forefather's purpose. As proud members of the "white race" we support and encourage you.

People like Mr. Duke and yourself make us proud.

btw I doubt that you're serious but if you are and think your ideology can achieve any measurable support in Europe or even in the U.S. at present, congrats on your youtube sab degree.

Mr. Allen, about whom are you speaking when you say 'our'? You seem to indicate a majority. Instead of embarrassing yourself and your cause here, and before you give your paycheck to David Duke (gotta love that 21st century beggary), buy a ticket, fly to Germany and help him out there. It would be lovely if you took your friends with you...all 4 of them.

The time for this nonsense has passed.

A Christian doesn't hate. I'm white and David Duke doesn't represent me, he can stay in Germany for all I care.

Sorry, I'm a member of the HUMAN race, and I'm not really sure what's so great about "heritage" based on skin color. If pigment is what's driving your self worth, you're sliding into desperation.

In other words, what Edward is really saying is that he and his ilk are terribly afraid of genetic annihilation by non-whites.

Very well spoken, Jrz!

edward be happy you are white, am sure that is all you have. pleasekeep it to your self, and maybe since your type of people are building iraq for whites. maybe you can move there and am sure you will be happier

Being native american I'd have to totally disagree with you Sir.... "America" as it was called by the europeans was founded by the indiginous peoples of the land. Then we had the name, "Indians" placed upon us because of a white european man, "Christopher Columbus" that didn't know were he was. The land that White europeans decidied to call "America" after an italian explorer named, Amerigo vespucci. This "America" that we natives called home/Our mother, Was brutaly taken from us by "white christian europeans" in another holocaust thats never mentioned. This land that white europeans now call "America", Belonged to the native people that was here BEFORE the white europeans came and stole it, Was theirs from the atlantic coast, to the pacific coast, From what white europeans now call south america, Up to the arctic ocean, Belonged to the indiginous people. Until it was taken by force from us. So get your facts striaght before you start spilling out your version of history.

Sounds just like that crap that adolf hitler and the nazis were spewing out their faces in the 20's, 30's, and 40's. White supremacy.....

Don't you Christians believe in tolerance and love thy neighbor and all that sh!t, or do you all just get to pick and choose what you want to hear from your magical book. Its people like you that give your religion a bad name. Oh and by the way, Jesus was not white you moron.

As a transplanted "Yankee" living in the South almost 3 years now, the sight of a confederate flag still makes me cringe! Some southerners defend the flag, calling it their heritage! But, what might that heritage be? Look at the profile of Satan Duke - not an American flag flying behind him! Unfortunately, it is pieces of garbage like him, that gives the South an unfair reputation of being dixie racists! I love living in the South - just not this part of it! What comes around, goes around -Duke will face the maker some day and it will not be pretty! Amen!

So what if he is an American citizen? Do you think that just because someone is American they should have the right to break laws (hate crimes break laws) in other countries? The Germans of all people ought to know whether the Holocaust occurred. And the reason they have those laws is because the present generation of Germans is so appalled at the horrors that came about because their forebears did not have the courage to speak out against Hitler before it was too late. Germans want to make sure it never happens again.

my father,uncles, brothers(literally) fought for our freedoms. and this aint it sweetheart. this jacka$$ wants to go to another country and show his ignorance? well,fine,when they lock him up, i wish they'd keep him. send my christmas $ for a good cause????? only if the money is going to be paying for a cold,dark, dank room for him to be locked up in. who cares if he hasnt been a 'member of the klan for over 30 years"? and i dont believe this nonsense for even a minute, he touting "pro-white"/ good christian? not even on a good day. the man preaches ignorance. i believe that there are good,bad, and ugly in every race,color,and creed. this is proof and check it out folks......hes WHITE.

Jud - so he hasn't been with the KKK in over 30 years? Excuse me, but the 'Grand Poo-bah' or what ever it is they call the top guy doesn't just walk away. Ever. He got a face-lift and put on a suit and became an upwardly mobile hater...always on the prowl for that big money.

He tries to speak elsewhere because his nonsense is not welcome here, by even the smallest of majorities.

@ Judson . . . Your ignorant arrogance is mind numbing! Since when do Americans have special status in foreign countries? It may surprise you, but in Germany it is German law that is the rule. The Germans, just like Americans can ask foreigners to leave their country when they feel that they are undesirable. And Duke certainly is undesirable in Germany as he is in the rest of the world!

David Duke is an American citizen and deserves to be free and able to speak before an audience without armed police threatening him with arrest.

He has no such rights in Germany. I'm amazed that you don't understand that the First Amendment doesn't apply to other countries. If he wants the right to speak freely, he should stay in the US. Otherwise, it is his obligation to obey the laws of the countries that he visits.

. . . the present generation of Germans is so appalled at the horrors that came about because their forebears did not have the courage to speak out against Hitler before it was too late. Germans want to make sure it never happens again.

By suppressing free speech? Kind of ironic, isn't it? Allowing someone to speak doesn't mean you're also compelled to agree with them. Suppressing their speech does not eliminate the thoughts behind it.

Judson, you obviously have never traveled out of country. What Americans are allowed to do in this country DOES NOT apply in other countries, remember that if you ever have to opportunity to travel elsewhere. And for MIKER "free speach" doesn't necessarily apply in another country. Other country's democracy is not the same demoracy as the U.S. or another country's.

If JORDAN & MIKER can't afford to travel and learn about other countries you could read, I don't just mean Duke's website.

the european dont fear him, they just dont want crazy people. we have too many crazy people in the states and that is what the european fear that all the u.s. crazies will move there. that is what has them really scared

@Allison: You're funny. Free speech is a principle of human existence. One of the great things about America is that we codified it. I'm perfectly aware that other countries don't recognize this. I lived in Saudi Arabia for 5 years and have been around the world 3 times (with several stops - not just orbiting). I've lived it. Perhaps that has a lot to do with why I feel fairly strongly about the subject - unlike people like you whose primary exposure to this concept is through reading about it in a book.

Miker, I certainly understand and even agree with what you are saying...to a degree.

But most of us can hardly stand by while someone like Edward Allen stands next to us spewing hatred, be it here on Newsvine or in the middle of the street or up on a podium with a big-ass microphone. He is welcome to hate anyone he wants and be as vocal about it as he wants...but not while standing next to me.

Sort of the ol' "not in my back yard" approach, then? How do you feel about people who say that this show or that show shouldn't be on TV? Or that certain ads are offensive? On an individual level, it boils down to simply tuning out what we don't care to hear (or see). But, when you prevent someone from speaking, you also take away the rights of everyone else to hear. Doing so will not change their desire to hear that message; in fact, it may create a vacuum to be filled by an even stronger message.

Obviously there are limits to free speech and expression. You don't yell "Fire" in a crowded theatre. But, unless someone can draw a very bold line between Duke's message and violence directed at some third parties he has just as much right to say his piece as you or I.

Judson: He doesn't carry a membership card, and probably is a closet bedsheet dresser. Regardless, he is the same racist pro-whitey (with the same bad hair style - what's up with that, only one barber in Louisiana for the past 50 years) he has always been. And his being American does not give him carte blanche to trapse the world, spew that bovine fecal matter and expect immunity to the laws of other countries.

Puting someone into jail over such a charge as "hate speech" is spurious ... does anyone know what that is? It shouldn't be any speech that I disagree with and wanting to put you in jail over ... enforcing these kind of laws are what's wrong with european jurisprudence versus american court standards.

many of the same people who got these extreme laws passed in Germany also want them for the US... but hopefully the average american just will not put up with this kind of crap. Telling the truth has been charged as "hate speech" in some of Europe's courts with the admonition that "truth is no defence" when it came to enforcing these extreme laws.

what exactly is the truth your talking about?

Judson,

Show us an instance when telling the truth has been charged as "hate speech". Since you came up with the statement you surely must have an example.

Nah, European jurisprudence is more lenient than its American counterpart.

When David Irving sued Debra Lipstatt in England for calling him a "holocaust denier" in her book and costing him book sales and invites to speak at public events, he was denied the right to bring up certain facts which were easily provable, on the account that doing so would harm the reputation of holocaust victims. The Judge named Grey, put it in these words and I am paraphrasing here ... Bringing this evidence into open court would shame the victims even if it were true .. therefore the truth is no defense in this instance.

In a later case in Germany involving an America citizen but wanted by Germany for speaking about the alleged 6 million gassed in gas ovens, he was extridited first to Canada and then to germany where he had proof for his defense and the court also affirmed that "defamation of the dead" could not be tolerated with any proofs ...it didn't matter if the one being charged was telling the truth the official story of holocast had to be protected ... end of story.

Judson, you have actually not told the truth. Don't try to paraphrasing, because it's not true. Dead people can not dispute claims but German records, and details are are still used by all civilized countries detailing the systematic murder of millions of people at the hands of the nazi's. For you to deny this is stupid and ignorant as well as a total waste of time. Only the leader of Iran, Ahmadinejad believes this, as well as David Duke and other former KKK members who lie through your teeth. Holocaust deniers are considered idiot's with all the evidence and pictures of the mass murders. David Irving is another holocaust denier. Hanging around or supporting these bigots only ruins your reputation and that is all you have.

Why don't you do something useful for yourself and your race like helping people, no matter what race, creed, religion, or color, instead of trying to help a bigot and hate monger?

It is difficult to understand why anyone wants to deny that the holocaust occurred. Maybe as a way to somehow justify the Nazi regime? The same one that invaded Russia and put prisoners of war into open barbed wire compounds-after relieving them of their winter coats. The same regime that was beaten by the Soviet armed forces just about single handedly by the summer of 1943? The so called unter mensch? The same regime that idiotically declared more war than they could handle?

No, that cannot be. Maybe they deny the holocaust because they really want to repeat it. Inside, maybe they identify with those that had such power to make on the spot life or death decisions as to which group the "new-arrivals" would be placed. Or being able to remove people from their homes in the middle of the night. So they deny it because they are frightened of their own uncontrollable hatred.

I am so-called caucasian. No, those that deny the holocaust do not at all, in any way, fashion, or idea represent my interest.

I used to live inear Dachau. Believe me. The Holcaust happened. Even the older folks who were there don't deny it happened.

If the Holacaust did not happen then how did my Grandfather get his tatoos?? Yeah know the funny little thing on his arm? Or the loss of almost all of my family? Or the scares of all the rest? IT HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!!Reality check for some please.

This entire issue is ridiculous. There are people who deny that man has walked on the moon, too. So what? You can write laws prohibiting them from speaking their mind, but you aren't going to change their minds. What are you afraid of? That if they are allowed to speak that others may believe them? Again, so what?

Many of you are arguing, apparently, that we must eliminate any statements which question whether the holocaust happened because you believe that "those who forget (or deny) the past are doomed to repeat it." While that's true, ironically, the only way the holocaust could happen in the first place was by suppressing free speech - preventing people from speaking out against it. If you're worried about preventing such things in the future, you are going about it exactly the wrong way.

The law says you can speak your opnions about anything here in the USA. Germany has a law that states you can speak you mind but do it without hatred. If you hate someone fine but keep it to yourself. Speak of truth and facts not opinions of race or religion that you think is inferer. ( screw the spell check). I know it happened as most and his opinion is his to speak here not there. It is a different country and yeah it works there!

David Duke is an imbecile! White people see him for what and who he is. A hate monger, stirring up racial hatred towards, blacks, asians, hispanics, Jews, Indians, and anyone else who is not white or a neo-nazi. If you call that a proud member of the south then I feel sorry for you. In Germany the laws are very real that they don't want a piece of crap like David Duke inciting hatred in their country. It is unfortunate that in our country we have to put up with bigot's like David Duke.

David Duke, proud thumb-less, water-head son of a donkey fu(king harlot and a drunken child molesting dirt farmer. May White Jesus shine his milky light on the confederacy.

Be thankful there isn't a spelling test to pass.

@ dewayne . . . what exactly is your poit? The most Blacks are Democrats? That the Republicans are anti Black? Or what else?

dewayne: You didn't make a point, you made a circular conclusion without a claim. Start again and this time - clarify!