NY Assemblyman William Boyland Jr. arrested on new corruption counts

NEW YORK -- Just weeks after being acquitted on federal corruption charges, State Assemblyman William Boyland Jr. was arrested again by the FBI on new bribery and extortion charges -- money he allegedly solicited to help pay legal bills from his earlier case.  

Boyland is accused of soliciting more than $250,000 in payoffs in exchange for helping an amusement park businessman. That businessman was an FBI informant who recorded the meetings.  

Officials said Boyland accepted $7,000 in cash payments as well as campaign contributions in excess of campaign finance limits.

He is also accused of soliciting a $250,000 payoff in exchange for a scheme to help two undercover operatives try to buy and renovate a Brooklyn hospital for $8 million and then resell it for $15 million.

'I have legal fees'
The charges in this latest case allege that while on trial in federal court in Manhattan, Boyland was out soliciting additional bribes.

According to the criminal complaint, Boyland said he needed money because of costs piling up from his federal case.

"I have legal fees for this legal thing that I have .... I have a good attorney, I just can't pay him," he is accused of telling an undercover FBI agent.

Boyland, who appeared in court in sweats and sneakers and was released on $100,000 bail, left court without comment. When asked if he planned to stay in office, Boyland shook his head yes. When asked if he had anything to say to his constituents, he shook his head no. 

Defense attorney Michael Bachrach said it was unfortunate we "are here again" and said he would respond to the charges at a later date.

"The extent of the charged corruption is staggering,” said U.S. Attorney Loretta Lynch, who accused Boyland of auctioning of his seat to the highest bidder. "In this instance, the 'bidders' were working for the FBI.”

On Nov. 10, Boyland was acquitted in a separate case in Manhattan of conspiring to collect $175,000 in bribes to influence health care organizations in Brooklyn and Queens.   

After his acquittal, Boyland said he was looking forward to getting back to work.

FBI NY Director Janice Fedarcyk said Boyland asked for the meetings with the undercovers in person so his phone calls would not be taped. 

"Recording phone calls is not the only method the FBI has available to fight public corruption," she said.

If convicted in this latest case, he could face a maximum 30 years in prison.

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This guy just proves our point !!!! Our government is corrupt . Bought , paid for , and looking for more . Greed knows no limits .

bob

  • 38 votes
#1 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:11 AM EST

What this "proves" is that this one person is corrupt.

  • 8 votes
#1.1 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:13 AM EST

Go USA

Come on now . Look under the rug a little deeper . This guy was just the latest to get caught . The higher up they go the harder they are to catch , and the more the law protects them.

bob

  • 34 votes
#1.2 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:18 AM EST

This guy pissed some one off, so he gets to be the sacrificial lamb. Just like the one case of insider trading they just prosecuted.

  • 10 votes
#1.3 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:21 AM EST
Comment author avatarSally Rocks classicallyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

It is interesting that the article makes light of the fact that this particular politician is democrat! If he were a republican, that fact would have been mentioned several times and put in the headline!

On the other hand the public has learned that their if a politician is accused of corruption, then the politician must be a democrat..... nothing else makes sense. This is true especially if the corrupt politician is from NY, NJ, or Chicago!

  • 23 votes
#1.4 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:56 AM EST

After his acquittal, Boyland said he was looking forward to getting back to work.

Well, at least he was honest about it.

  • 7 votes
#1.5 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:00 AM EST

Today's politicians make Nixon look like a saint. May he rest in peace.

  • 10 votes
#1.6 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:16 AM EST

To 'Go USA', you know that one bug you see in your house?...that ain't all.

  • 9 votes
#1.7 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:19 AM EST
Comment author avatarSeldom Seen Sam ColoradoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

There aren't enough cops around to investigate all the crooked democrats! I just hope they don't forget about Barney Frank (recently retired, wink, wink), who with the help of Chris Dodd helped fannie mae and freddie mac bring down the country! And lets not forget former NJ Governor Corzine, contributor to Obama's campaign and WH guest who ripped off millions of dollars from trusting investors..... the list goes on and on....

  • 16 votes
#1.8 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:23 AM EST

Quite frankly, it makes no difference if he has a (D) or (R) following his name. A crook is a crook.

  • 16 votes
#1.9 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:29 AM EST

Does anyone really think that the majority of politician aren't corrupt whether they be Democrat, Republican, black, white or yellow? Why do you think they would spend a million dollars to get a hundred thousand dollar job? Some of them spend millions of their own money to get a political job. They know that it will be returned ten folds for their vote if elected.

@ Seldom Seen Sam Colorado

Did you forget the biggest crook of them all in congress by the name of Phil Gramm who happens to be a Republican? You know... the one responsible for the deregulation of the banking industry that caused the economic collapse.

  • 17 votes
#1.10 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:31 AM EST

It's about time, right now, that our corrupt politicians do the time instead of doing a plea bargain where they get away with a slap and no admission of guilt or wrongdoing. This trend of a mere 'my bad' and they are right back at it again has to be reversed.

  • 11 votes
#1.11 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:33 AM EST

Nixon a saint, you've got to be kidding me. All you have to think of is Bebe Rebozo(sp) and Robert Vesco (sp).

As for politicians accused of taking brides - how do the name Duke Cunnignham and Tom Delay strike you. I think Cunningham is still in prison.

  • 8 votes
#1.12 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:34 AM EST
Comment author avatarPatriotic American U.S.A.Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

"More trash from the GOP Tea-Retards", Serial Crooks. !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 1 vote
#1.13 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:34 AM EST

No, as the first commentator stated, it shows no remorse from the first case and has now influenced a second glance from the feds. I don't understand why America as a whole cannot see this greed and corruption. Any member of government that signs a pledge with an individual, that goes against the US Constitution should be tried and punished old school. Hang em or shoot em! I don't care if you are Republican or Democrat, it is your duty as an American to protect the Constitution, yes, even you fat lazy slobs that watch FoxNews. (For those of you who are brainwashed or braindead, I am referring to the pledge signed by Norquist and ALL Republicans, traitorous bastards need to die.)

  • 6 votes
#1.14 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:40 AM EST

It just shows greed knows no bounds. How about the OCCUPY MOVEMENT move to Washington DC and occupy Congress or the Whitehouse or their local greedy politicians.

  • 5 votes
#1.15 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:51 AM EST
rebuttal53Deleted

The amount of crooked R's and D's is probably the same percentage, no one is arguing that.

It is the fact that MSNBC has a history of highlighting the fact when it is an R and omitting it when it is a D.

  • 10 votes
#1.17 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:37 AM EST

Larry-2260635

You know... the one responsible for the deregulation of the banking industry that caused the economic collapse.

No, that is incorrect. The Deregulation of the banking industry was started by the the Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act of 1980. It was passes by a Democratically Controlled House and Senate and then signed into law by none other than Jimmy the Peanut. I agree that Phil Gramm was a crook, but the blood is not only on his hands. He was instrumental in removing the last vestiges of the Glass-Steagall regulation, but It started with Carter and continued with Reagan, GHW Bush, and Clinton. There is plenty of blame to go around fro all politicians and parties.

  • 4 votes
#1.18 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:51 AM EST

If he's guilty throw the book at him.

  • 1 vote
#1.19 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:24 AM EST

Nah, let him go, he is a democrat. That wasn't mentioned in the article, was it? MSNBC.....wonder why his party affiliation wasn't mentioned??

  • 9 votes
#1.20 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:29 AM EST

THe :Liberal Media is a myth which owes its persistence to two factors:

1.) The paranoia which afflicts many on the right

2.) Among the more mentally agile it's a form of gamesmanship - similar to the way Phil jackson would work tghe refs before a playoff series.

  • 1 vote
#1.21 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:34 AM EST

The liberal media ignoring the party of a democrat in trouble, while parrotting the party affiliation of each in trouble republican is manifested everyday here on MSNBC. That is the essence of bias, therefore it is not a myth.

  • 12 votes
#1.22 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:43 AM EST

never noticed dasvet - I guess you see what you're looking for.

    #1.23 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:48 AM EST

    Purnell, can you not see?

    • 7 votes
    #1.24 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:55 AM EST

    Politician...corruption...this is news HOW?

    • 2 votes
    #1.25 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:23 AM EST

    Another one bites the dust. Many more to go...A corrupt govt. we have elected. Don't they make us so proud?

    • 2 votes
    #1.26 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:37 PM EST

    Following several years in which many observers noted promotion of liberal political positions and emergence of politically partisan views in the channel's programming, MSNBC publicly acknowledged its progressivism in October 2010 while launching a marketing campaign with the tagline "Lean Forward."[10][11][12][13][14][15][16] In a June 2011 interview, MSNBC president Phil Griffin stated that "MSNBC has established a sensibility, a position, a platform" and that "MSNBC is really the place to go for progressives."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC

    You are looking pretty foolish there Purn but that is nothing new for a Liberal. I knew Boyland was one as soon as I read BSDNC's title for the article. If he was a Republican it would have been splashed in bold type.

    • 3 votes
    #1.27 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:44 PM EST

    dasvet - just because you happen to be eating vanilla ice cream at a particular moment is no reason to think all ice cream is vanilla. This whining about the media is pathetic - news outlets - including newspapers, magazines, tv stations, etc. are out to make a profit - if they can make it by saying the moon is made of green cheese - then guess what? The media follows the dialectical process - it doesn't lead it.

    If you want to look at who is more successful at using the media the last twenty five years I'd have to give the nod the the Republicans. How else other than with a superb grasp of propaganda are you going to get a guy making 9.75 an hour (if he's lucky enough to have a job) to align his interests with that of paper shuffling millionaires?

      #1.28 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:01 PM EST
      Reply

      In case anyone is wondering, the assemblyman is a democrat. Seems that should have been part of the story, don't you think? If he had been a republican, the headline would have been Republican Arrested in Sting Operation.

      • 35 votes
      Reply#2 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:12 AM EST

      True, Go USA, but this one is black, so they're not allowed to say anything.

      • 26 votes
      #2.1 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:28 AM EST

      I don't believe republicans are any better.

      • 11 votes
      #2.2 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:23 AM EST

      @AlMightyDollar, I agree with you. In fact I believe there isn't any GD politician that isn't as crooked as the day is long and night is night.

      • 6 votes
      #2.3 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:44 AM EST

      I guessed that he was a Democrat was never mentioned. If he was a Republican it would have been Mentioned at least ten times.

      They are all Crooks.

      I remember when I was younger and our Sheriff was making about $12,000. a year and he lived in a $75,000. house. Which was a lot back than. How did he do it, All the gambling place paid him $500. a month to leave them alone.

      I was in a place one night that got raided. The old man who owned the place went to the Phine made a call. He called the Police to the Phone . The policemen gave him back the phone and left.

      • 6 votes
      #2.4 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:33 AM EST

      Many politicians are self serving or perhaps corrupt, but the liberal leaning media does its best to prop up the Democratic party by rarely identifying a Democrat when they're involved in corruption. By contrast, they literally BEG people to help them dig up dirt on Republicans, as we saw with Sarah Palin's emails and just yesterday regarding Newt Gingrich.

      Can you imagine if Sarah Palin was in charge of MF Global and $600M turned up missing. Here's how the NY Times described the former Democratic Senator and Democratic Governor of NJ:

      "Mr. Corzine joined MF Global in March 2010 following a failed re-election bid for New Jersey governor."

      Funny, no mention at all of him being a Democrat. Guess this is "Hope and Change" in the media.

      .

      • 10 votes
      #2.5 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:20 AM EST

      When a politician is below the level of congressman or senator - the party affiliation is rarely mentioned.

      • 2 votes
      #2.6 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:10 AM EST

      What if hehad been an Independent. Where could we go on that tip, we only have about five Independents in both houses, why we could get a posse together round them all up and hang every blessed one of them. That would show them Independents we won't stand for corruption in office. Make good headlines for the Republicans and the Democrats too. Its called deflection. If the charges are proved in a COURT of LAW he should have the book thrown at him and piled on him so high that he couldn't dig himself out. But I dream of a day when that will be the standard for any politician of whatever affiliation he choses to align himself with, if he steals not only money but the public trust.

        #2.7 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:23 AM EST

        Hmm, so time to set some new rules for ALL political offices. They can't run until they're at least 40 and have real-world work experience, they have to have served at least two years in the military on active duty, limits to two to four terms depending on the term length, cannot accept contributions from ANYONE other than private individuals, abolish political parties completely...did I miss anything?

        • 3 votes
        #2.8 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:25 AM EST

        as long as the rich and powerful are allowed to buy politicans this kind of crime will continue

        • 2 votes
        #2.9 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:21 PM EST

        just one silly question have any of you media bashers considered who really owns the media.

        Look it up it's not that hard

        • 1 vote
        #2.10 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:22 PM EST

        It seems a bit redundant, New York City Democrat. What else would he be?

          #2.11 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:34 PM EST
          Reply

          You beat me to the punch,There was no mention of party. Unless the press becomes objective in their reporting, they'll just be another mindless blog.

          • 20 votes
          Reply#3 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:24 AM EST
          Comment author avatarLarry-2260635Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          There was no mention of party.

          I'm sure that FOX has broadcasted that little bit of information ever since the story hit the news. Of course if he had been a Republican it would not have been mentioned at all.

          • 6 votes
          #3.1 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:42 AM EST
          rebuttal53Deleted

          Larry-2260635

          There was no mention of party.

          I'm sure that FOX has broadcasted that little bit of information ever since the story hit the news. Of course if he had been a Republican it would not have been mentioned at all.

          Larry...I don't particularly care for Fox new but I have to say they would have mentioned if he was Republican........MSNBC sometimes mentions way down in the story that the person was Democrat but that was omitted completely in this story. I have gotten to where I go to Politco for my news.....this is really bad when you can tell what political party they side with, just by reading or listening to their reporting. I remember the days of Walter Cronkite, he gave you the news, not his interpretation of the news. I have started watching Diane Sawyer (I know I am surprised too!!) she seems to be trying to just report the news and I really appreciate that! I no longer watch Brian Williams or whomever that is now on CBS and of course don't watch Fox News either.

          • 5 votes
          #3.3 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:34 AM EST

          I'm sure there is a lot of truth in any news story that you read...but it's hard to find beneath all the mud-slinging and other partisan garbage. The one issue I have with Fox isn't the spin, but their tendency to be doomsayers and otherwise overly dramatic.

          • 2 votes
          #3.4 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:26 AM EST

          I don't particularly care for Fox new but I have to say they would have mentioned if he was Republican......

          Actually, Fox would put that republican up on the screen with a D next to his name. It has been done MULTIPLE times by them.

          Many articles do not mention the party, by the way, in different medias. There are plenty of times I had to look up the party of the person, and sometimes it is a dem, sometimes a repub.

          • 1 vote
          #3.5 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:44 PM EST
          Reply

          But He Had EXPENSES..... Remember a good Lawyer is not cheap..... Just the tip of the Ice Berg.....

          • 8 votes
          Reply#4 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:34 AM EST

          A crooked democrat politician in New York... Why does this not surprise me..... But on the other hand I'm sure there are a few republican crooks out there also....

          • 17 votes
          Reply#5 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:36 AM EST

          He doesn't seem ay different form the rest of them--he just went about it the old fashioned way. Get a clue buddy-- think lobbyists.

          • 3 votes
          Reply#6 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:45 AM EST

          Another crooked NY politician who, by coincidence but unmentioned in the article, happens to be a black Democrat.

          • 15 votes
          Reply#7 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:46 AM EST

          Really the man being black has nothing to do with it! They don't report White or Black Republican do they? They should have stated however what party he belonged to since they share that little tid bit when a Republican gets caught doing something wrong

          • 2 votes
          #7.1 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:42 AM EST

          Sure, they report when they're black. Every time said black man decides to use the race card and claim he's being picked on BECAUSE of his race. How often do you see a white person claiming that they're being falsely accused because of their race?

          • 2 votes
          #7.2 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:29 AM EST
          Reply

          The penalty for elected officials should twice that of the average citizen, they are in a position of trust. Hang them in public!!!!! Cant beleive J Bruno and C Rangle got away with a slap on the wrist....

          • 14 votes
          Reply#8 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:51 AM EST

          TWO THUMBS UP! Well, not the hanging part, but DEFINITELY the double punishment. Of course, that means that we'd have to build about a dozen more prisons just to hold all the crooked politicians.

          • 2 votes
          #8.1 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:30 AM EST
          Reply

          I was thinking the same thing. A rather critical detail to omit from a story about a politician, but I assumed Democrat because of the omission. Absolutely right that the party affiliation would have been headline fodder if it had been a Republican.

          • 14 votes
          Reply#9 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:52 AM EST

          The reason the republican don't have to be caught with their hands in the cookie jar is they get their bribes in other ways. Multimillion dollar book deals, with ghost writter, and the book sells maybe ten thousand copies. Or they are hired after leaving office with cushy jobs as lobbyist or consultants. During office they are invited at some companies expense on an all paid, everything, vacation anywhere in the world they want to go. Their accounting fees are gratis by the top firms in the Nation. No Republican pays for a meal in Washington DC and they eat at the most expensive restaurants in the Capital. Gratis or bribes need not always be money under the table or solicited a nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse.

          • 5 votes
          #9.1 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:25 AM EST

          A rather critical detail to omit from a story about a politician

          No it isn't. Until people stop thinking only about if a person has a D or R after Their name, this country is doomed.

          The only thing that is important, it that this is a politician that is corrupt. If we would line up all the politicians that were ever caught doing wrong, we would have an even split between the R's and the D's.

          Also, of course this site left out party affiliation. It leans left. A right leaning site would downplay the affiliation if it was a Republican. It's a rather pointless thing to bring up as it is already common knowledge.

          I don't care what party a politician aligns with. All I care about is if that politician is for the people or not. Last I checked, no party has been for the people lately.

          • 3 votes
          #9.2 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:53 AM EST
          rebuttal53Deleted

          Your key word is assume. I guess you know the old dogarel, when you assume you make an ass of me, the me being you. Thats also the key to your brain fog you don't do much thinking yopu do a hellava lot of assuming. And I don't cut from the lefty manifesto I find it as devoid of intelligence as the righty manifesto. I examine the facts as they present themselves from both sides and I generally end up with a conclusion which is somewhere in the middle, but it is a thoughtout process and not an assumption. I happen to believe a person is innocent until proven guilty, but I also know if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, I can ASSUME it is a duck

          • 2 votes
          #9.4 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:29 AM EST

          Uh, Norton, I have a problem with your list. Since when are book deals illegal or unethical? Or being a lobbyist, or a consultant? More than half of the "bribes" you listed are perfectly legal, and in most circles, acceptable. This Democrat blatantly broke the law, and you're comparing it to being a consultant?

          • 3 votes
          #9.5 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:33 AM EST
          Reply

          seems i am in the wrong workplace

          i could use some cash too

          • 4 votes
          Reply#10 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:54 AM EST

          NBC did not mention his party affiliation? If he was a Republican, the liberal media would make sure his party affiliation was not missed. Then they would hang and burn him. Typical liberal media.

          • 13 votes
          Reply#11 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:05 AM EST

          Ah, give it a rest! If he was a Republican you would be blasting the liberal media for singling him out and explaining why this really wasn't his fault.

          I'm not defending the man - he's a crooked politician and should be run out of town. But crooked politicians come in both flavors: D and R.

          • 4 votes
          #11.1 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:19 AM EST

          Try and tell me if you can, that Bush and Cheney and a lot of other Republicans and a lot of other Democrats didn't become multimillionaires while in office. Bush got somewhere around two hundred grand per year as President, Cheney a little less but both these men accumulated millions in assets while in office. Being elected into the House of Representatives for three terms insures that you will become a millionaire before you leave office if you vote right. A senator is given the same status on one term all he has to do is toe the party line. Deals fall your way, buy such and such a stock at ten dollars, wait six months and sell it and on borrowed money. Have your uncle buy a parcel of land in Plodunk, The government needs that land at ten times his cost to in a year, and on 100 percent borrowed money. Put your name on this book, not to worry its already been written, and we'll pay you a million dolars up front. The office, any office is overwhelmed with free money that can't be traced as a bribe if you belong to the right boys club. Hoover didn't remain in charge of the FBI for all of those years without having the goods on a lot of shady politicians. Its called prosecutorial descretion. A robber is a robber no matter what affiliation he belongs to and a bribe is a bribe no matter how it is fashioned as a payment.

          • 4 votes
          #11.2 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:47 AM EST

          N C Thornton. Best comment so far.

            #11.3 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:18 AM EST
            rebuttal53Deleted

            Wealthy from what source, Bush's daddy was not a millionaire when he was a pilot in the navy, he became only moderately wealthy in office, so tell me Rebuttal53, incidently is that your IQ, where did his wealth come from. He was not an astute businessman and fumbled the ball on many of his projects before he ever decided to get into politics and run off his daddy's coattails. We don't have kingdoms in America but we do have financial and political dynasties on both sides of the aisle. You can become a millionaire out of your daddy's pockets or you make it into those ranks the old fashioned way, stealing. I ask you again, how did Bush or Cheney accumulate their millions before they got into the Presidential pregnancy. Common, we maggots would like to know.

            • 2 votes
            #11.5 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:17 AM EST

            moderately wealthy? Have you seen the Kennebunkport compound of Bush?

            • 3 votes
            #11.6 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:39 AM EST

            Thornton, once again, you've listed a bunch of ways to make money that are not in any way illegal. And I notice that much as you protest otherwise, you're targeting Republicans. How wealthy are the Clintons? How did they earn that wealth? What about Gore, running around scaring everyone with global warming and making himself a mint off of the work of other people? If you're going to target politicians, do it fairly.

            • 2 votes
            #11.7 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:39 AM EST

            Saylor do you have a clue about who owns all of the media?

              #11.8 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:26 PM EST

              bop, rich people own the media, democrats and republican. Poor people don't, and I'll let you decide why.

              • 1 vote
              #11.9 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:13 PM EST
              Reply

              Normal omission by a biased media, that is pushing THEIR agenda.

              US news media is no better or worse than any Politician or third world rag with a agenda...

              • 7 votes
              Reply#12 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:12 AM EST

              thay are a third world rag

              • 1 vote
              #12.1 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:36 AM EST

              Normal omission by a biased media, that is pushing THEIR agenda.

              Just like all the other outets.

              • 1 vote
              #12.2 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:56 AM EST
              Reply

              And if this was Fox News and he were a Republican, do you think they would mention it? I am sure if this story is on Fox then their headline reads "NY Democrat Arrested For Corruption". It does not matter what political party he is from. I am a proud Democrat but I believe these kind of actions among an elected official are inexcusable and he should be prosecuted with the fullest extent of the law.

              • 5 votes
              Reply#13 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:17 AM EST
              rebuttal53Deleted

              Mr rebuttal53, why is eveyone who has a contrary opinion to yours, a twit. I am reminded of Cyrano de Bergerac's soliloqy when he asked his distractor concerning his nose couldn't he find some other abjective to describe its length. Is TWIT the only word in your vocabulary. Then again, I am reminded of the intelligence of the utterer from his previous admonishments. I guess we twits can only expect just so much from a Neanderthal or do you belong to the Trologdite side of the family.

              • 2 votes
              #13.2 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:41 AM EST

              Uh, Thornton, do you have a point about Brandon's comment other than to insult rebuttal53? Basically what you just proved is that you are the same as everyone else. Anyone who has a comment that is against your opinion is stupid or a Neanderthal. Put down the thesaurus and play nice.

              • 2 votes
              #13.3 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:41 AM EST
              Reply

              At least he wasn't toe tapping.

                Reply#14 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:27 AM EST

                LOL-"Hey buddy, can you spare a square"

                  #14.1 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:19 AM EST
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                  ZiousDeleted

                  lol

                  typical rich always looking for more rofl

                  in hell you wont get this chance

                  why do we hire the rich for politics?

                  they only do things for themselves

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#16 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:04 AM EST

                  Really Keith? How many times has the poor built a Hospital for Children, Gave Free Education to those in need? Found Homes for Abused Children, Preserved delicate Lands, Animals, brought you and I Technology? the List goes on and on and You Kieth? We hire the Rich as corrupt and Ignorant as they are because people like you have NO CLUE!

                  • 4 votes
                  #16.1 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:11 AM EST

                  No man can accumulate, the fruits that forty acres and a mule can produce, on his own singular efforts. They rich become rich because they depend on the poor to buy their wares at sometimes inflated prices all out of propotion to value of the product. Rockefeller, Astor and any other millionaire or billionaire bcame rich off the backs of the poor. Oil companies rake in profits, profits mind you, in the billions, because they have a monopoly on the purchase, processing and sale of oil products. When you control the market such as the DeBeers do in diamonds you set the price. Once you've accumulated several billion dollars that you don't have a hope in hell of ever spending, you can be generous and build a hospital or library or fund something with your name emblazoned on it. Who really paid for that structure or fund, it was Joe Blow trying to keep his family well kept. Ford never laid a brick but he has a billion dollar hospital named after him and its services are not free. If you don't have Blue Cross or Medicare, they will put a bandaid on your butt and send you home and bill you fifty dollars for the band aid. The rich don't become rich by dint of their personal efforts, they spend a lot of their "hard" earned money on buying politicians to keep the money flowing their way.

                  • 3 votes
                  #16.2 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:07 AM EST
                  rebuttal53Deleted

                  You show me ten men who are not politicians in America and I will show you nine of them who want a job, we don't want handouts, we don't want welfare we want good honest work and a fair pay for that work. As far as manifesto's go we lean to whoever can give us a job with that fair pay. So far, the Right manifesto is willing to give us a job but only on sharecropper wages and they own the company store. The Left manifesto isn't much better, but at least they don't keep us saddled to buying from the company store. Ford built two million cars in 1928 without one hi-lo or crane, and he did it on ten hour days, six days a week for five dollars a day. It only cost the lives of two men a day to do it. Unions changed all that, they got better wages more humane and safer working conditions, was it the left or right which brought about those changes, butt53. These lazy good for nothing men you speak of who should move to Europe and elsewhere saved Europe's behind in not only hard work but in lives. How dare you tell us to move to Europe because we want a fair share of the pie through our work. Better you go to Europe and join that troubled mass than you consign one American who wants nothing more than what the American dream promises.

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                  #16.4 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:03 AM EST

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                    #16.5 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:09 AM EST

                    You think those guys didn't work for what they had? You think Ford, who revolutionized transportation in this country, doesn't deserve the fruits of his labor? Oh, so I suppose that next you're going to say that a kid who flips burgers or hauls in carts from a grocery parking lot deserves the same wages as my father, who broke his body every day shoving and welding steel to build the bridges you drive on and the train cars that carry your new car? Every job is NOT the same. If innovators did not get paid well for what they do, there would be no innovators left! I'm sure Ford put in a heckuva lotta long hours to get his factories running and keep them that way. He was NOT lazy! Are things unbalanced? Yeah, it can be. But being rich, in and of itself, is not a crime. There are a lot of rich that worked their butts off to get where they are, and implying that they ALL did it on the backs of the little people is, frankly, and insult.

                    Oh, and before you accuse me otherwise, I'm one of the little people.

                    • 2 votes
                    #16.6 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:48 AM EST

                    l8b4 all studies have shown that the poor are more generous than the rich

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                    #16.7 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:29 PM EST

                    bop, just look at all the parks,hospitals, and museums, etc, that poor people built. Can't find one, can you?

                    • 1 vote
                    #16.8 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:10 PM EST
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                    So they played the race card AND the democrat card, the media is so one way it's sickening, but hey the Republicans are the other end of the same POS, Ron Paul 2012, give someone else a chance, ya voted in obuma, look what he has done to the country, Kennedy was the last gunslinger, he had the U.S.A. printing the money we use, thats why they killed him, Paul wants to get rid of the FED. thats why the media don't give him a chance to talk in the debates, obuma will win any debate, cuz he's a master-debater. Vote Paul 201 He's the best choice you have. I'll vote for Jesus, Michel the Archangel, And the 144.000.

                      Reply#17 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:10 AM EST

                      I've been approached by that Saturday crowd a lot of times, I stop them cold when I ask them if only 144,000 can get in what do you need me for, carrying luggage perhaps or bringing water up to the door. Kennedy wasn't killed because he was printing money, he was, in his second term going to put the CIA under military control and throw that blackmailer Hoover out of office. Have you ever wondered why there were no, repeat no, FBI agents in Dealy Plaza when Kennedy was killed, but there was a confirmed number of CIA agents scattered in the crowd. No mandate, no reason to be there. Jesus is currently from Mexico as near as I can ascertain and I certainly will vote for Paul in 201 if it ever comes around again.

                      • 1 vote
                      #17.1 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:20 AM EST

                      Oh brother, here we go again, gotta drag religion into everything. The 144,000 has been misinterpreted since time immemorial! There is no reason why other good people cannot be saved and get into heaven, or whatever your religion calls it. If there were only 144,000 to be saved, then why the heck do churches bother telling the rest of us to be good? It would be hopeless!

                      As to Ron Paul, he has a few good ideas, but his isolationist ideals are a bit over the top. I'm afraid he'd have the rest of the world thoroughly p.o.'ed at us in a month flat.

                      Oh wait, they already are.

                        #17.2 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:52 AM EST

                        The 144.00 are the ones that fight with Michal, if you accept Jesus as your savior you will go to heaven too. I never said that only 144.00 will, don't put words in my post that aren't there. read the bible, learn something before you run your mouth.

                          #17.3 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:06 PM EST
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                          A corrupt politician from New Jersey? No way! Everyone knows all American politicians are honest, above board, pigs fly and the moon is made of green cheese. If this guy is convicted he should get the maximum penalty allowed under the law as a warning to others of his kind as to the consequences of putting themselves before their constituents.

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#18 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:16 AM EST

                          Having my senior citizen moment of the week I meant to say New York. Where there are as many honest politicians as there are Unicorns in Central Park.

                          • 3 votes
                          #18.1 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:18 AM EST

                          Yet we still keep voting in the unicorns because they look good, or more likely are more popular, thanks to this poll or that one. We will keep getting the same treatment from our elected officials no matter what party they belong to so long as we follow the polls. I keep forgetting who controls and puts out the polls. A huckster is a huckster is a huckster and as long as we keep buying his do all, cure all elixer, he will keep selling it to us. If you don't ask him for specifics he doesn't have to give you any. Two chickens in every pot, even if they are stolen from your neighbors yard is his motto, but he doesn't tell you where he's going to get the chickens from and won't if you don't ask. My motto is don't knock any man's proposal unless you believe you have a better one to replace it. As of this date I haven't heard one decent proposal coming from the Republican side of the aisle which is any better than the one's we have on the table at present. Muckraking and condemnation is not a proposal I can get my teeth into, its the same elixir they've been hawking for generations.

                          • 2 votes
                          #18.2 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:39 AM EST

                          At this point I have not heard anything I consider constructive from any of the candidates. Although I am registered Republican, that means nothing as I vote based on the record of the candidate running not theri party affiliation or what they promise they will do. There have been elections where I have not voted for even one Republican Candidate. The minute a candidate gets heavy into the mud slinging, they are no longer a consideration for me. Mud slinging although traditional in every election tells me the candidate lacks a more coherent platform and does not respect the intelligence of the voters.

                          • 3 votes
                          #18.3 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:52 AM EST

                          SFC, I have always wonder why one calls themselves "registered republican or registered democrat". I have never checked any party on a voter register form in my life of voting. I have voted in republican primaries, and I have voted in democrat primaries for fifty years, not in the same election. Would I be considered both a registered republican and a registered democrat? Just wondering.

                          • 1 vote
                          #18.4 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:38 AM EST

                          Oh, so Thornton, you must prefer the Democrat plan, which is to take one of the chickens from the neighbor that bothered to build a hencoop and raise chickens, and give it to the lazy butt who never got off his couch long enough to earn one in the first place? You don't call THAT stealing?

                          • 1 vote
                          #18.5 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:54 AM EST
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                          Down with the System I say! Begin a new Revolution! Elect El Tuco for President in 2012! Will bring REAL changes to OUR Nation, or take a bullet trying! When it looks like it, and smells like it, you call it what it really is... you call it FACISM!

                            Reply#19 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:20 AM EST

                            I presume he's a Democrat since no reference to his party was made. Were he a Republican it would have been in the first paragraph, if not the first word.

                            • 5 votes
                            Reply#20 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:23 AM EST

                            The only honest politician, with a very few exceptions, is the one that hasn't been caught. The problem with these matters, the large majority of them are never caught, so to those who believe, think that crime doesn't pay, well, think again. In politics, at least, crime does pay and quite handsomely, thank you very much.

                            Of course, the top of the totem pole in corruption nd not just in corruption but war crimes has to be-drums please-that super coward from Wyoming, Mr. Deferment himself, the Darth Vader of politics: Mr crooked grin, Dick Cheney and his sidekick, the retard pervert from Texas: Mr. I don't know how to tell the truth, Mr. drug addicted, idiot with a D minus degree, GWB. Now lets be fair, calling for this guy's head on a silver platter is a moral lynching. The money this guy stole, try to extort from undercover agents doesn't amount to a fart in that fart symphony of Blazing Saddles. This guy will be laughed out of a room in Wall Street for not knowing how to steal billions w/o anybody asking for accountatiblity, jail time and not only that, they are allowed to continue on their merry way to prepare for the next third depression. when are the stupid voters going to learn? I'm afraid never. Be prepared, isn't the if, but the when and according to news from Europe, it might be real soon.

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#21 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:31 AM EST

                            Sure wish they would get some of those big offenders in Washington on some these charges

                            We want the big fish that’s selling out to over seas.

                            Oh, I forgot they have immunity!

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#22 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:39 AM EST

                            What?....Another corrupt politician, say it isn't true! Wait....I forgot, this country is going down the toilet for a reason.

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#23 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:49 AM EST

                            Curse of Capitalism is coming home to roost. Capitalism is dead which is behind poverty, hunger, illiteracy, homelessness, joblessness, environmental destruction, all the other kinds of unethical and immoral dealings.

                            The world will be better of without Capitalistic exploitation and blood sucking. Most of the Capitalistic institutions are controlled by the greedy zionists and their zionist supporters.

                            There are limits of dissent in a society dedicated to the pursuit of profits...
                            ............................................................

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#24 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:50 AM EST

                            I weish to God or anybody else for that matter, will someone out there explain and define what a Zionist is. I'm having trouble distinguishing a Zionist from a greedy oil producer, aren't they Islamist. Are the two interchangible. Or whats the difference between BP and Chase Bank, are they Zionist or Islamist. What about Haliburton where do we categorize this company, is it a Zionist company or an Islamic company, I mean it makes its billions in Iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan. I give up, help me someone out there. Define the terms for me.

                            • 1 vote
                            #24.1 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:51 AM EST

                            takeout, you sound just like Marx/Lenin spouting how great communism is. If you lived in what you seem to think was paradise of a communist country, you would not be able to spout your communist bs on a public forum.

                            • 1 vote
                            #24.2 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:41 AM EST

                            No kidding, Dasvet. Takeout, did you notice that this country was originally built on capitalism? And despite the problems we have now, the poorest person in this country is RICH compared to the poor souls running for their lives in Somalia or starving to death in Kenya? You can't blame Capitalism itself. I notice you didn't provide an alternative, which, usually, ends up being Communism. You think that's so great, go try living in China where you can get shot for disagreeing with the government, where they tell you how many kids you can have, where you have to pay to get your kids into decent schools, etc. America is the greatest power in the world, BECAUSE we allow people to be in control of their own lives.

                            • 1 vote
                            #24.3 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:58 AM EST

                            catsclaw, the idiotic notion that communism is a better form of government, has no basis in historical fact. To make such a stupid post as takeout made, is to be totally unintelligent about economic issues.

                            • 1 vote
                            #24.4 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:06 PM EST
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                            The only difference between Republicans and Democrats in office is the Republicans hide the corruption better and don't get caught as much....

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#25 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:51 AM EST

                            Tony, and MSNBC will not inform you of their party affiliation if it is a democrat crook.

                              #25.1 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:42 AM EST

                              Dasvet, I don't have a party affiliation, because they both are an embarrassment.

                              • 1 vote
                              #25.2 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:58 AM EST

                              I suppose that's why the only non-demo/non-repub in the presidential race is inventing his own party. I don't know if it's hit the news yet, but did you hear that former SLC mayor Rocky Anderson just threw in his hat? I just about died laughing!

                                #25.3 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:00 PM EST

                                Hey Catsclaw, check out my post 30.4 later on. Too bad we have to make some kind of choice..lol

                                  #25.4 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:38 PM EST
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                                  People its not just the politicians- EVERYTHING IN CAPITALISM IS CORRUPT!

                                  EVERYONE HAS A PRICE

                                  Well not me.. I AM ABOVE IT

                                  money corrupts all

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#26 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:51 AM EST
                                  rebuttal53Deleted

                                  Ya, thats what the southerners were saying in the 1870's. Eventually they came up with unions and the workers finally made enough to buy a home and an automobile even and pay for those businesses to grow. Now the "working class" are being reduced to being equal to illegal immigrants and wages are going backwards by the decade. Good job rebuttal53, you make a great cheerleader for the taskmasters.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #26.2 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:11 AM EST

                                  What? Your above it....bull@!$%#, everyone has a price...EVERYONE, don't pull that crap. If your family was in trouble that would be your price, if you were about to lose your home that would be your price...everyone has a price!!!!

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #26.3 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:15 AM EST
                                  rebuttal53Deleted

                                  Yea, I'm sure before the USSR fell there was no coruption there.

                                    #26.5 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:31 AM EST

                                    Since you brought up the USSR, maybe takeout should move there and see what communism did to the people. They were so used to being stupid sheep that when the government fell, they had no idea how to take care of themselves. You walk into an apartment and see a boatload of electronics and think "wow, they must be rich!" Then you go look in the cupboards and find them almost bare. They tell you that instead of a paycheck, their employer pays them in goods. Goods whose provenance is probably best unasked. Communism destroyed those people and it will probably take decades to recover, if they can recover at all with the Mafia in charge.

                                    Oh, and that was a secondhand account, by the way. From one of my brothers, who spent two years with those people.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #26.6 - Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:04 PM EST
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