Florida authorities seek grotesque serial cat killer

For at least the sixth time since October, someone has dismembered a cat and left its remains on a golf course on the Florida coast, authorities said Friday. Each time, the killer has left a grotesque scene that witnesses liken to a horror movie.

The body parts of another cat were found Thursday strewn on the 14th fairway of the Port Charlotte Golf Club, the Charlotte County Sheriff's Office said.

The incidents began in October, when cat carcasses were twice found on the course. The sheriff's office got involved after the legs of a third cat were discovered in the middle of the fairway to the first hole on Oct 30.

Then, on Nov. 17, three more cats were found on the greens. Their paws had been cut off and their stomachs were turned inside out. One of the cats' body parts were then placed on the fairway as if the killer was trying to reassemble them.


"I'm almost in disbelief," Patti Page, who lives near the course, told NBC station WBBH of Fort Myers on Friday after the latest incident. "Who could do such a dreadful thing, and why?"

The Sheriff's Office says it doesn't know, and it asked anyone with information to call it at 941-639-2101.

After the especially gruesome discovery Nov. 17, the Sheriff's Office warned that the cold and methodical approach of the killer — who leaves no blood behind, indicating that he or she is killing and dismembering the cats elsewhere and taking them specifically to the golf course — could be capable of much worse.

Bob Carpenter, a spokesman for the Sheriff's Office, cited serial killers like Ted Bundy and said, "Everything that came from those cases was that they started killing animals like this — killing small pets."

Golf course workers said one of the victims wore a collar with the name "Misty" — indicating that the cat was indeed someone's pet, WBBH reported.

This article includes reporting from msnbc.com staff and NBC station WBBH of Fort Myers.

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Mal'achiDeleted

Catch this one quick, it's very possible cats won't hold his attention much longer.

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Reply#2 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 5:02 PM EST
PhuneeghaiDeleted

If you can kill a cat or any animal for that matter it will be a child next. Then a adult.

  • 9 votes
#2.2 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 8:27 PM EST

The sad thing is that the penalties for cruelty to animals are relatively light-- but at least they would have his photo, dna and prints on file if they catch him. That would help should he ever pursue more intelligent prey.

  • 9 votes
#2.3 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 8:31 PM EST

Comment # 1 deleted, off-topic, trollish and led to many personal attacks.

Let's have a respectful, on-topic discussion folks.

  • 1 vote
#2.4 - Sat Dec 3, 2011 4:40 PM EST

Trollish is a derogatory slur. Can't we say big haired small person?

    #2.5 - Sun Dec 4, 2011 9:54 PM EST
    Reply

    There are some sick sick people...

    • 18 votes
    Reply#3 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 5:35 PM EST

    Whoever is doing this has to be one evil person. All they will probably get is a slap and a fine.

    • 18 votes
    Reply#4 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 5:38 PM EST
    Comment author avatarMal'achiExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Sheila-846240

    There are many so called "evil" people in the world today. Did you know that in Florida and many other States there are people who KNOW that their cat has feline aids but they still allow their unneutered animal to roam freely to mate and spread the disease among other cats? Now that's what you call a SICK and EVIL person. A person like that should be convicted of "felony animal abuse"; however, unfortunate as it may sound, many states including Florida have no laws regarding such an abuse. SAD!

    • 10 votes
    #4.1 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:53 PM EST
    Comment author avatarleroy brownExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    In America, Sheila, are you kidding me?? This guy may as well have done this to HUMANS. Cats and dogs are given human rights in North America, in other countries, they are food, like pigs, which, by the way, are very intelligent and make great pets just like dogs. Pigs, however, are not granted the same human-like status that dogs are. I guess they aren't as handsome as dogs...and they TASTE so damn good! I wonder how dogs taste, but would have to travel a long way to find out.

    • 2 votes
    #4.2 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:23 PM EST
    Comment author avatarMal'achiExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    leroy brown

    You may have "hit" on something. It may be something as simple as a homeless "hungry" foreigner.

    My goodness, with all the help from the Newsvine posters the Sheriff's office should have the case solved in about 20 years. That's a lot of coffee and donuts.

    I wouldn't recommend eating at any "foreign" restaurants in the area though.

    • 3 votes
    #4.3 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:44 PM EST

    If you learn to read the words in other languages, you can find it served in some places. (Marina, CA)

    • 2 votes
    #4.4 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 9:59 PM EST

    Very good point there dragonmaster. I didn't think it was one of the cultures that eats pussy cat at first and just thought it was a possible space alien but now after reading your post I'm wondering if it is one of the cultures of people that do eat them, why aren't eating the pussy cats and leaving them out like that on a golf course? Do you think these are possibly deseased cats? I don't know about this, very interesting.

    • 1 vote
    #4.5 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 11:21 PM EST

    Sheila-846240

    The only ones who will be getting a "slap and fine" in my neighborhood will be those who let their cats roam freely. The State in which I live has "LAWS" prohibiting "free roaming" animals. I'll be going down to my local Animal shelter to get a couple of "CAT" cages, Monday. Once caught I'll return the cages and CATS to the shelter and demand the owners be fined.

    • 4 votes
    #4.6 - Sat Dec 3, 2011 9:01 PM EST
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    I agree. It sounds like someone is practicing before working their way up to two legged mammals. Hope they catch the nut soon.

    • 20 votes
    Reply#5 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 5:41 PM EST

    Here is a great ideal keep your pets in your own yard . Not everyone loves the flea bags cats or dogs.

    • 11 votes
    #6 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 5:43 PM EST

    Why don't you take your retired ass out and handfeed some sharks.

    • 17 votes
    #6.1 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 5:46 PM EST

    Why don't you keep your grand kids in your own yard. Not everybody loves the snot-nosed flu bags.

    • 16 votes
    #6.2 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 5:51 PM EST

    you are the biggest ass . and hope noone kills you you ass

    • 4 votes
    #6.3 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 5:56 PM EST

    Not everyone loves cranky old farts either, but we tolerate them because we're trying to avoid become them.

    • 16 votes
    #6.4 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:21 PM EST

    Hey guys - this cat killer is truly a serial killer in the making. He/she seriously needs to be found quickly. Sounds like they are escalating.

    • 10 votes
    #6.5 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:28 PM EST

    Now , was all those nasty replies really necessary? Does personal responsibility escape you? I guess i could have said put a baited fish hook ( chicken gizzard would do the trick) on one end of a small piece of fishing line and a please tie your beloved pet up sign tied on the other end and see what happens.

    But i did not not because i am a really nice guy ! ;-)

    • 4 votes
    #6.6 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:45 PM EST

    retiredcoastguard you are an idiot! Anyone who does this sick act should have the same done to them quickly!!!!!

    • 5 votes
    #6.7 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:47 PM EST

    Sounds like retiredcoastguard lives in Florida and likes to hang around golf courses.

    • 6 votes
    #6.8 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:54 PM EST
    Comment author avatarDennis Millervia Facebook

    Oh Retiredcoastguard, that's so much better, remember, Jesus loves you....It's the rest of us think you're and @!$%#.

    • 4 votes
    #6.9 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:56 PM EST

    retiredcoastguard: Did it not occur to you that perhaps these cats were stolen from their yards? Are you suggesting all cats should stay indoors?

    • 2 votes
    #6.10 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:02 PM EST

    Bob i do not like golf or cats or dogs . I do not like golf because it is a boring game . I do not like cats and dogs because they keep getting into my anti freeze when my cranky old fart ass forgets to clean up after weatherising my truck.

    • 3 votes
    #6.11 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:04 PM EST

    Oh Retiredcoastguard, that's so much better, remember, Jesus loves you....It's the rest of us think you're and @!$%#.

    ROTFLMAO ! :-) Thank's i needed that !

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    #6.12 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:16 PM EST

    Ever stepped in animal manure in your own yard, but don't own an animal? Retiredcoastgard has a point. Where I live it's the law, animals inside a home, fenced yard or on a leash, cats included.

    • 4 votes
    #6.13 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:25 PM EST

    I have to agree with the cranky old fart on this one. My neighbor is a cat collector, but does not spay/neuter them (or take them for vaccinations). She also allows most of them to roam free, so not only do the multiply like mad and spread disease but I also have the distinct honor of having all these animals use MY yard as a litter box and my crawlspace as an area to get into and die. Not only do I have to wear duck boots and wash all of the feces off of them after I cut my grass, but I also get the horror of cleaning out the dead disease-ridden cat and kitten carcasses from the crawlspace beneath my home.

    Cats don't need to "roam free." Keep in mind that they are domesticated and it is much safer for them indoors (disease, traffic, being attacked by other animals, etc.)

    This doesn't justify what the freak animal killer did. I'm just validating Retiredcoastguard's point.

    • 7 votes
    #6.14 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:51 PM EST

    retiredcoastguard - now that you are retired and have all this time on your hands, you should return to school and learn how to spell and properly construct sentences. I still have no earthly idea what you are trying to say in the third sentence of your post no. 6.6.

    • 1 vote
    #6.15 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:54 PM EST

    Children...HOPEFULLY Retired CG didn't mean anything more than what he said...pets SHOULD be kept in the yard and/or the house. They should also be neutered and spayed...anyone who thinks that just because they have a male and aren't responsible for the litters in the neighborhood really shouldn't be trusted with anything.

    I worked for a vet for 5 years and saw what happens to strays that get hurt by cars or poisons they find because some dumbass doesn't know how to dispose of that stuff properly.

    I also saw what people can do to an animal when their monster comes out.

    Anyone that can hurt an animal can easily hurt a kid...and vice versa.

    • 2 votes
    #6.16 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:56 PM EST

    I still have no earthly idea what you are trying to say in the third sentence of your post no. 6.6.

    Grammar seems correct , I used spell check. I am thinking your reading comprehension is poor , which explains a lot after reviewing some of your other posts.

    • 3 votes
    #6.17 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 8:04 PM EST

    They should also be neutered and spayed...anyone who thinks that just because they have a male and aren't responsible for the litters in the neighborhood really shouldn't be trusted with anything.

    I feel the same way about obama voters.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOZ-Etb0k0Q

    • 4 votes
    #6.18 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 8:06 PM EST

    Cats should be contained by the owner. If you own it you are responsible. If it gets hit by a truck and gets splattered for all to see, you are responsible. If it gets on my car and scratches my paint, you are responsible. If it bites a kid , you are responsible. If some crazed lunatic gets ahold of your frigging cat, unless stole from your containment which I seriously doubt, you are responsible. It does not make his or her action right. And they have serious mental issues but there is no defense for the free roaming cat.

    • 1 vote
    #6.19 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 11:12 PM EST
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    Please keep your cats in ALL the time. It's a very dangerous world out there................

    • 6 votes
    #7 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 5:46 PM EST

    Cats are safer indoors, but they are not happier.

    • 5 votes
    #7.1 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 5:49 PM EST

    Some or few breeds of cats are to never, EVER be let outside specifically because of their disposition. This would include but not limited to; show cats or special breeds of cats that range from $500-$1000, Special needs cats, declawed cats (that one is just cruel in itself) and a cat that clings to anyone who gives it attention (I can think of a Ragdoll cat, they are so friendly they will approach a dog it doesn't know, possibly a cat chewing dog).

    I mean these are small examples and probably only reflect a small group but I thought I'd list it regardless.

    • 5 votes
    #7.2 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:34 PM EST

    Who cares if they're happier outdoors - cats have the natural desire to stalk and murder random animals.

    My right to enjoy hearing the songbirds chirp away trumps your cat's right to kill them... and indeed in many jurisdictions allowing a pet cat to wander randomly is considered a crime... as it should be everywhere other than on a farm.

    As to the subject of the article, yet again MSNBC fails majorly - they make it sound like somebody is murdering only grotesque cats, not brutally murdering them.

    • 5 votes
    #7.3 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:35 PM EST

    I have a male cat that's neutered. I have a screened in porch where he can feel likes he's outside. I would never let him roam free.

    • 9 votes
    #7.4 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 8:48 PM EST

    My right to enjoy hearing the songbirds chirp away trumps your cat's right to kill them... and indeed in many jurisdictions allowing a pet cat to wander randomly is considered a crime... as it should be everywhere other than on a farm.

    I am thankful that I live in Virginia where cats are considered free roaming. I find it cruel to never allow a cat outside and to keep them confined for the rest of their lives. I let all of my cats outside when they want to go out. They are all vaccinated, spayed, and receive vet care as needed. As for your songbird argument - I can guarantee you that there are ferals already out there. If you're hearing the birds, your neighbor's cat isn't going to change that.

    • 2 votes
    #7.5 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 9:53 PM EST

    chouse

    Who cares if they're happier outdoors - cats have the natural desire to stalk and murder random animals.

    My right to enjoy hearing the songbirds chirp away trumps your cat's right to kill them...

    Some people do care. Very much so...

    Besides cats are natural controllers of various pests, rodents and vermin, at no cost or environmental poison. Healthy songbirds are not prey to cats...occasionally one that nature has selected out of genetic defect, weakness, sickness or ill health is culled by cats. Generally speaking, healthy birds do not fall prey to cats; although cats do stalk them for practice and to test natural selection vulnerability.

    Those who hate cats or want to eliminate them should remember the Black Plague that decimated Europe to almost extinction, after the Christian Church pronounced cats as 'familiars' of witches and ordered their extermination on religious grounds. Cruelty to cats and hate is even today more common in Christianity based cultures...believed to attract 'curse' in other cultures, eschewed.

    In more modern times the Chinese ate away their cats and were plagued by rats, there population exploded a thousand fold; modern science could not control...massive farming and storage losses resulted. Cats were imported in the thousands, and by law their consumption was banned for a while.

    The Feline in all its forms and species is perhaps the most beautiful creature, the most perfect hunter, the ultimate predator nature ever made...except perhaps for the human female!

    One like the other may on a whim may choose friendship with you...only the cat's friendship, though rarely bestowed, is without guile.

    • 1 vote
    #7.6 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 10:09 PM EST

    "Healthy songbirds are not prey to cats"

    I call BS!

    I used to have a neighbor who let their cat go wandering all of the time - and it REGULARLY brought back songbirds, chipmunks, grey squirrels, and frogs.

    Keep trying to tell yourself that "pet" cats can do no harm, but you'll still be wrong. It's a PET with hunting instincts.

    Keep trying to pretend that the Black Plague has anything to do with a suburbanite letting their cat go murder wild critters when it's already getting fed at home, and you're still going to be so off the mark it's not even funny.

    Besides, I never claimed to hate cats - although the owners who allow them to murder the wildlife need to be fined and/or locked up for being accessories to illegal hunting without a license.

      #7.7 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 10:24 PM EST

      "Cats are part of the food chain."

      Not somebody's PET!

      You are WRONG!

        #7.9 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 11:33 PM EST

        chouse, Maybe we should make people keep their cars in their garage too cause everyday in this country over 1 million animals are killed by cars. I bet more birds are killed by cars than cats. BTW do you target hunters who kill birds. Do you target companies and people who put out rodenticides which for your info is the bigest killer of birds of prey in this country after eating poisened rodents. Do you also target dogs and their owners? There are breeds of dogs that go after birds and kill them. Coyotes, foxes and raccoons also kill birds along with fishers and pine maartens. Let's not forget all those big tall buildings that humans built that are standing in the migratory path of billions of birds. Just go to Chicago during the migration and in the early morning hours thousands of birds crash into those building and fall to their death. Regardless of your hatred of cats the birds they kill is a drop in the bucket compared to the deaths caused by humans.

        • 3 votes
        #7.10 - Sat Dec 3, 2011 12:25 AM EST

        "Regardless of your hatred of cats"

        Learn how to read... I do not hate cats - they are simply what they are. Irresponsible owners are the problem. There clearly are a ton of irresponsible people posting here considering how many people are trying to make up one lame excuse after another. You allow your cat to murder wildlife - in most jurisdictions you are a criminal. Deal with it.

        None of your other points matter one bit. A pet that is being fed that murders wildlife and doesn't even eat it - but just brings it home to play with - is unacceptable on all levels. An owner of said cat who tries to justify this reckless behavior is even worse.

          #7.11 - Sat Dec 3, 2011 12:50 AM EST

          chouse:

          You are strong on swear words but weak on ecology, poor on observation of nature, and lack science. You see a cat bring in a kill, a bird nature selected for cull, occasionally. But you don't see the natural predation that takes place beyond your grasp, usually at night, all night, every night. So you think it does not happen.

          For example a snake occasionally climbs a tree and eats or destroys a whole nest of eggs - a whole generation of future healthy birds. Even more deadly, rats climb trees every night and grab at the feet of off sleeping birds.

          Rats are nocturnal predators that can kill a bird out of exhaustion for lack of sleep...that is why nature designed the cat. The cat is the ultimate predator yet protector of birds, culls the unhealthy birds that may spread disease yet it eliminates the birds most vicious and deadly enemy the rat.

          You will never see a cat climb a tree to raid a birds nest. Rats would do it every night if there were no cats. If there were no cats, birds would be extinct. Man could not farm nor store grain for the winter...nor seeds for the spring! Man would not progress from primitive hunter gatherer, Rats would bite in to his babies while he slept. Man would nor survive - but for the cat!!!

          Nature is complicated, in delicate equilibrium, science is complex. Not every one is predisposed to understand it, prejudices and emotions come in the way. You have little knowledge and even less experience, as demonstrated in your post. You have no picture of nature nor a viable basic concept of how it works. How can you know reality...

          You may carry on with your loud mouth abuses all you want, ignorance coupled with arrogance is amusing, does not faze me.

          Take a science class, or stay up nights and days to catch a glimpse of nature, or believe those who have studied, observed, experienced, and have tried to reach out for truth.

          Have a nice day.

          [PS: Murder involves the same species. Killing for food is not murder. Other wise all groceries are guilty of catering to the 'crime']

          • 2 votes
          #7.12 - Sat Dec 3, 2011 12:53 AM EST

          Could it possibly be another cat committing these crimes? I doubt it. Ok, what about it being another kind of critter, maybe a bird getting back at the cats for killing little birdies? Ok, what if an eagle seen the cats killing small birds and decided to kill the cats and then leave them on a golf course because it didn't like the term used when a golfer is one below par, birdie? See what I mean? This is going to be a tough case to crack, a cat in the hand is worth two birds in the bush, right?

          • 1 vote
          #7.13 - Sat Dec 3, 2011 1:26 AM EST

          "You are strong on swear words but weak on ecology, poor on observation of nature, and lack science."

          Swear words? You must be blind as there are no swear words in this thread.

          Are you smoking something illegal perhaps? It seems so, or you're lacking your meds.

          Enough said - as your random rantings about ecology and science are fantastically funny - you have a simpleton's understanding of both, so your attempt to imply that I don't know science is just hilarious. I knew more science as a kid than you do now. I feel sorry for you that you would pretend to understand the subject.

          Go away troll - or take your meds... whatever it is. Each and every post of yours is delusional or intentionally inflammatory.

            #7.14 - Sat Dec 3, 2011 1:29 AM EST

            I'm sorry but it's not cruel to keep cats indoors. I have 3 cats that never go outside. They like to look out my screen door but they don't try to go out. It's safer for them to be inside. I live in the Smoky Mountains & have no desire for my cats to be eaten by bears or anything else. Nor do I want them to fall prey to some sadistic @!$%# that kills animals for fun.

            • 2 votes
            #7.15 - Sat Dec 3, 2011 6:04 AM EST

            cats? I prefer cats over dogs actually, but there are bigger issues in florida that needs to be addressed. Now whats being done to these animals is definately wrong,,,but in our current financial situation I wouldnt blame a person if they actually ate the cat due to hunger and wanted to dine in a worthless yet beautiful place like a golf course, but then again, as long as it wasnt my cat.

              #7.16 - Sat Dec 3, 2011 7:39 AM EST

              You will never see a cat climb a tree to raid a birds nest. 

              BS.. We had a woodpecker nest in our yard growing up in the city. Neighbors cat killed all the hatchlings even though i pop the cat every chance i got with a bb gun. I let his cats live only because he and my parents were friends.

              I do not hate cats but like kids people should not have them unless there responsible enough to raise them and that is the truth something obviously a lot of you can not handle!

              • 2 votes
              #7.17 - Sat Dec 3, 2011 9:51 AM EST

              http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45519537/ns/local_news-orlando_fl/

              Bruce said she believed that the two got in because she left the garage door open for a neighbor's cat.

              "Imagine that !!" The police should charge the neighbor with crime too.

              • 1 vote
              #7.18 - Sat Dec 3, 2011 10:49 AM EST

              chouse

              Swear words? You must be blind as there are no swear words in this thread.

              Are you smoking something illegal perhaps? It seems so, or you're lacking your meds.

              Lot of anger there...your tone and arrogance indeed speaks for your knowledge base.

              I need not comment further...but regarding your swear words, your own words are sufficient witness [Unless "BS" is an endearing expression and not a swear word where you come from]...

              And here they are:

              chouse

              "Healthy songbirds are not prey to cats"

              I call BS!

              [PS: Don't shoot the messenger. An ad hominem is no argument]

                #7.19 - Sun Dec 4, 2011 5:03 AM EST

                "Lot of anger there...your tone and arrogance indeed speaks for your knowledge base."

                Absolutely none as a matter of fact. Based on your wild leap assumption there you've clearly told us all that you're one of those hyper violent people who gets angry while typing out a reply to a discussion board.

                There was no arrogance there, if anything I was being nice to you. Your descriptions of science and ecology were childlike and naive - indicating that you have a very basic understanding of the subject at best. And despite that, you tried to imply that I needed to study science and ecology - so I simply set the record straight.

                That's not arrogance in any way shape or form. You are the one who needs to crack open a science book - and realize that regardless of how much you love your kitty cat, a PET CAT in a USA suburban environment is NOT OK to let outside. You clearly are not from here, at least not originally, so you must have missed my line about farm cats. If you have a farm the cat is actually helping kill rodents - but in the suburbs they kill good species. Let the eagles, owls, hawks, jays and other birds of prey take care of the rodents - and yes, I have seen all of those species in my neighborhood as well as cranes, geese, deer, loons and many more - since I live in a part of the country that respects nature (with the exception of a few idiots like my old neighbor).

                When some idiot is allowing their cat to kill FOOD for the above mentioned birds of prey, and then they put the carcass into a trash can (vs leaving it out in the yard for some animal to find) they are disrupting the food chain. You try to say that a house cat is part of the food chain - WRONG... no part of the food chain gets to be 100% safe from predators at night... but kitty cat does. Kitty cat is not a part of the food chain, but indeed is a giant disruption in the food chain.

                "I need not comment further...but regarding your swear words, your own words are sufficient witness"

                First of all, swear WORDS implies multiple uses, so even if the phrase that got you all hot and bothered was indeed profanity it was used once per post in a few posts.

                However, it's not a swear word. It's a commonly used expression indicating that one is speaking to somebody who is lying, incorrect, or exaggerating. Indeed it is not considered profanity in any regard - and even if it was, are you my mommy?

                Who are you to try and be the profanity cop? The USA is a secular nation - so keep your closed minded sharia thoughts to yourself, OK? What you don't get is the site does not allow people to directly swear - it filters those out. The phrase BS has been in the English language for many decades now and although it originally did imply the phrase "bull @!$%#", it's become used in its own right now and is regularly used even by little kids. If they expanded BS into the full words it would be considered a very light profanity, but as an abbreviation it's not at all.

                If I had tried to call you a @!$%#ing @!$%# (I'm sure that will be filtered so using it as a demo), then I could see why you would even bring up the idea that you were being sworn to - but I didn't. Besides, you will find that telling somebody from America "you swore at me" will almost always result in YOU being laughed at. Profanity is very common in this nation, and if you can't deal with it, then go to a forum where you and your like minded type can suck your thumbs without anything possibly controversial being said.

                However you came here, so realize that when you are pulling facts right out of your butt, people will call you on it - often by saying "I call BS" - which is a clear telltale to you so you understand that they realize that you're talking out of your butt (that means lying, exaggerating, etc as I mentioned above - but repeating it so it sinks in).

                "Don't shoot the messenger. An ad hominem is no argument"

                And acting as if you're talking to people subject to sharia law is not an argument either. You really need to get a clue before you come on American discussion boards. This is not some "mouser" cat in some countryside location in Jordan we're talking about here - but suburban house pets in the USA.

                Sorry to say but you come across as intensely ignorant - perhaps it's a lack of English - or maybe you really are not so smart.. but either way, you really need to review your posts before you hit reply in the future. And remember your target audience. If you try to call a very commonly used phrase "swear words" then you WILL be laughed at, and quite rightly so.

                  #7.20 - Sun Dec 4, 2011 10:31 AM EST
                  Reply

                  I think its time to call...Mcgruff - The crime fighting Dog

                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#8 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 5:51 PM EST

                  I agree we could call this case. Meow mix or chicken CATcha tory gone bad.

                  • 2 votes
                  #8.1 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:26 PM EST
                  Reply

                  Important to note; Newt Gingrich hates cats.

                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#9 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 5:52 PM EST

                  I reported my neighbor for killing a cat and hanging it's body from his swing set when I was 9. (Him being 7) He basically was only grounded by his father and warned by the police.

                  18 years later he killed his entire family with a hammer. Eugene is right..catch him before it gets any worse.

                  • 21 votes
                  Reply#10 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 5:59 PM EST

                  Wow, hell of a story. I remember driving down an Oklahoma road several years ago and seeing a white kitten hanging in a tree by the side of the road. It was shocking. Wonder if that guy killed anyone?

                  • 3 votes
                  #10.1 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:05 PM EST
                  Reply

                  glad i don't golf

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#11 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:00 PM EST

                  what these people fail to realize, is that the Lord is watching (25 hrs a day) and will repay each one for his deeds... these are defenseless animals who suffered a cruel and hideous death. They will only come to realize this, when they find themselves in the place "where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched"...

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#12 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:02 PM EST

                  This is the same god you pray to before you eat a steak dinner

                  • 3 votes
                  #12.1 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:08 PM EST

                  the Lord is watching (25 hrs a day)

                  ...if the lord doesn't even understand the concept of time and days....why do I care what he sees???????

                  • 1 vote
                  #12.2 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:40 PM EST

                  What lord is that? Certainly not Jehovah. Remember Jehovah loved Abel because Abel burned animals in His honor. Jehovah regarded Cain with contempt because Cain made vegetarian sacrifices. To quote the poet: "God told Abraham "Go kill Me a son". then Jehovah relented and settled for a ram.

                    #12.3 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:10 PM EST

                    Bob, How do Atheist celebrate Christmas?

                      #12.4 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:12 PM EST

                      retiredcoastguard--since Christmas is about as religious a holiday as Easter is, atheists celebrate it pretty much the same way that most Christians in the US do: conspicuous consumption. Many formerly religious holidays--St. Valentine's day, All Hallow's Eve--have been secularized to the point that pretty much anyone can celebrate them and pretty much everyone does. Snarky little one-liners like yours are beloved of the Tea Party crowd, but about all that they prove is that people in the Tea Party have a very weak grasp of the fact that being "literal" is the same thing as being irretrievably moronic.

                      In any case, it is troubling that (above) you would actually be able to come up with a cruel way of damaging someone's pet with a fish hook and that (above) you admit to leaving out antifreeze where animals can get at it (there's an underlying point there that you do it on purpose).

                      You'd better hope that you don't have any identifying information along with your user name, because it's not unlikely that someone is going to come knocking on your door if they see you trolling this particular thread and making comments of that nature. It is one way that they find perpetrators (watching the peripheries of crime scenes to see if someone always shows up and acts a little to interested). And, frankly, I hope that they do come knocking at your door, as you sound like a potential suspect.

                      • 4 votes
                      #12.5 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:54 PM EST

                      @retiredcoastguard...we celebrate it by dismembering/disemboweling cats and spreading the remains on golf courses. DUH!! We're like Pagans, only worse, right? More like the old Germanic peoples. Utter horror and bloody rituals 25 hours a day.

                        #12.6 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:59 PM EST

                        Ahhhh, ok another interesting idea, looking at this as some religious or maybe even a cult crime. Ok, we know the manson crowd is just about retired right now, so we can count them out, but what about the Amish? A while back some of them cut some Amish neighbors entire families hair, so I wondering if maybe the Amish aren't on some kind of war path right now? Another thing, on beanathome's comment, what if retiredcoastguard lives is in an entire different area then the cat events are happenning? Then he also has an alibi on top of living in a different area. Like myself, I know where I was the past few weeks. Not sure after that but I do know I wasn't in Fla. Not sure I want to go there now either, know what I mean.

                        • 2 votes
                        #12.7 - Sat Dec 3, 2011 1:05 AM EST

                        Joe , i totally ignore bean the atheist as far as threatening me with the law goes. I do not fear law enforcement in fact bring them on we can go down to the police station swap stories and enjoy coffee and donuts together.

                        • 1 vote
                        #12.8 - Sat Dec 3, 2011 9:58 AM EST
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                        The cruel, heartless psycho doing this needs needs caught and jailed. Wish he would experience waterboarding every day he's in jail.

                        • 4 votes
                        Reply#13 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:07 PM EST

                        Keep your cats indoors people, and I hope they get this sick @!$%#er soon. He's going to move beyond cats.

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#14 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:19 PM EST

                        There has to be a special place in hell for the b@st@rds who hurt cats. Only the lowliest scum would pick on a small sweet defenseless kitty cat. Why can't they ever pick on someone their own size? I imagine given enough time and practice, they will eventually if not caught and shot. Please turn in anyone you know who does this. Pray for healing and rescue all animals from these pieces of sh1t.

                        • 4 votes
                        Reply#15 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:29 PM EST

                        Cats are NOT defenseless little critters, they have sharp claws on all four feet, and at least 4 sharp teeth. Have you ever seen what an infected cat bite looks like?? I have!! A friends wife was trying to give her cat some medicine, the cat bit her finger. She cleaned it with peroxide and put a few band aids on it. 16 hours later (the next morning) she was in the hospital with the doctor telling her she might loose her finger because the infection was so bad. They had to admit her to the hospital and put her on IV antibiotics to stop the infection from spreading. The doctor said cat bites are the worst because they carry so much bacteria in their saliva.

                        Do they even know if the responsible party(s) are actually killing these animals????? Or could they just be steeling the carcases from the local animal shelter that has euthanized them. Then dismembering the critters and spreading them about the golf course??? OHHH they have NOT figured that part out yet!!!!

                        • 1 vote
                        #15.1 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 9:50 PM EST

                        Anywho

                        Cats are NOT defenseless little critters, they have sharp claws on all four feet, and at least 4 sharp teeth.

                        Cats claws and teeth are essentially weapons designed for defence, hunting and catching prey and not letting them go, as opposed to dogs whose teeth regularly kill people, specially small children, old women and babies in their beds, ocassionally a jogger ot two.

                        Have you ever seen what an infected cat bite looks like??

                        No. Cats very rarely bite people...only the nasty evil people are bitten - evil in thought and deed - because a cat read minds and can tell the mischief therein.

                        I have!! A friends wife was trying to give her cat some medicine, the cat bit her finger.

                        That cat was not hers. Although in her possession, the cat obviously did not consider her a friend. Cats don't bite fingers of people they own, or accept as friends. Your friend's wife did not own that cat. Cats accept no masters. That cat was her reluctant, dependant prisoner...of course she/you do not think that a possibility. But its the truth.

                        She cleaned it with peroxide and put a few band aids on it. 16 hours later (the next morning) she was in the hospital with the doctor telling her she might loose her finger because the infection was so bad. They had to admit her to the hospital and put her on IV antibiotics to stop the infection from spreading.

                        People can get infected for little or no reason. The diabetic and the prediabetic more so. She should get her blood sugar checked. No body looses fingers, toes ect., unless they have some serious metabolic problem, then it does not take much...the cat just brought it to her attention - the cat is smarter than her and her doctor.

                        The doctor said cat bites are the worst because they carry so much bacteria in their saliva.

                        Absolute nonsense. Cat's saliva is antibiotic. It heals wounds, not aggravate them.

                        • 1 vote
                        #15.2 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 10:58 PM EST

                        Does it really matter if this sicko is stealing already dead animals or killing them personally? Obviously this individual is deranged either way. Even if you hate cats, what normal person would go around doing this? There are a lot of people out there who hate cats (or dogs, etc) but who never actually cause harm to them. Let alone dismember them and scatter their remains around the town.

                        They need to find this sick SOB and stick a needle in his arm. I would imagine that he will be diagnosed with some mental disorder and get off that way. My argument is this...if your dog goes nuts and "intentionally" hurts someone, you are required (in most places) to put the dog down. If it can do it once, it can do it again. I advocate the same thing for people. The fact that we have (or are supposed to have) a concience, "higher intelligence", etc than animals has been the counter-argument for years. I say, that's a more damning reason why we should be put down if we lose our minds and hurt a living being for "fun". We have too many assets at are disposal (guns, etc), can plan our attack, and are generally more dangerous than a rabid dog. So why the hell would you leave a rabid human alive on this planet when almost everyone would support putting down a rabid animal?

                        • 2 votes
                        #15.3 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 11:20 PM EST

                        @ Hamzsque El Sid313!*

                        Yes, the cat belongs to her, she feeds it, cleans up after it, and sees to all of its needs. Cats do not willfully take oral medications, so they have to be force fed the medications, and that's what she was trying to do when she got bitten.

                        "People can get infected for little or no reason. The diabetic and the prediabetic more so. She should get her blood sugar checked. No body looses fingers, toes ect., unless they have some serious metabolic problem, then it does not take much...the cat just brought it to her attention - the cat is smarter than her and her doctor. "

                        NO your wrong!! She is a healthy woman, the infection was not caused by an undiagnosed health problem!!

                        "Absolute nonsense. Cat's saliva is antibiotic. It heals wounds, not aggravate them."

                        OK if that's what you want to believe, i wont try to change your mind. Go right ahead and let your cat lick your next wound for you. But IF you are ever able to open your mind up to the truth about cat bite infections, just ask your doctor at your next visit. Or just do a simple Internet search for "cat bite infections" and stop believing the old wives tales of centuries ago.

                        • 1 vote
                        #15.4 - Sun Dec 4, 2011 10:02 PM EST
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                        Soon he will move on to humans. Might start with kids since they are helpless too. Hope they catch the perp and turn him over to a crowd of animal lovers. Castration should be the beginning but move on from there. Sick sick person. Nothing to say in his defense and not a political issue.

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#16 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:37 PM EST

                        This is what occurs when you piss off a group of mice

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#17 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:44 PM EST

                        Soon this psycho will graduate towards towards humans, always does. Catch this person (more than likely male) soon.

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#18 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:48 PM EST

                        Yeah Seymour. Thats what Dexter did. Went from cats & dogs to being a serial killer of serial killers. Maybe this guy is gonna be a hero or something like that!

                          #18.1 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 8:03 PM EST

                          NAH, they're just taking biology courses over the Internet and weren't sure where to get rid of the remains.

                            #18.2 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 9:58 PM EST
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                            This is the second cat killer from FL that has made national news. There was another one- a guy named Weinstien? who was 19 when he was caught on camera killing a cat from his neighborhood several years ago. I'm sure this guy is out of jail by now, and his buthchery was the same- cutting off legs and posing the animals no blood. Surely the police have his file. Evil people rarely change.

                            • 6 votes
                            Reply#19 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 6:56 PM EST

                            I followed that case in Miami. The guy was let go last November (2010). So it could be him again. I hope the police are checking that out, because this is very similar to what happened before.

                            • 1 vote
                            #19.1 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 10:52 PM EST
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                            I hope they set up some hidden cameras on that course and catch the bastard soon. A person who does this sort of thing to cats will come back in their next life as a mouse....or maybe a crawling bug.

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#20 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:15 PM EST

                            Nut job for sure, wonder if Sarah Palin is in Florida?

                            • 4 votes
                            Reply#21 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:25 PM EST

                            Nah. Different M. O. He gutted the cats and left them on the owner's porch. Different county also.

                            h t t p://www.progressivepuppy.com/the_progressive_puppy/2009/06/teenager-arrested-for-torturing-killing-cats.html

                              Reply#22 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:27 PM EST

                              Wow, there are some really sick tickets posting here. I agree with the people who think this is a serial killer in the practice faze, and I hope he, she or they get caught quick, and get locked up in a mental ward of a prison!

                              • 2 votes
                              Reply#23 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:53 PM EST

                              Someone sell that golf course a surveillance system!, problem solved. catch the perp dumping them ,run his/her face on the NEWS then send him to prison, they only thing he will worry about is keeping his lunch and his colon.

                              • 2 votes
                              Reply#24 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:53 PM EST

                              I wonder if the sick puke who's doing this knows anything about cause and effect.

                              More than likely his (or her) next life will spent in the form of a mouse or a small bird. Fate's a bitch.

                              • 3 votes
                              Reply#25 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:55 PM EST

                              Maybe the cats are serial killers, and the guy is doing justice by assassinating ninja kitties. Or maybe I just took one too many tokes...

                                Reply#26 - Fri Dec 2, 2011 7:56 PM EST
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