Did they get off the train and find another way home, or did they wait to be rescued? It says the train WAS at:

"an open-air station platform"

which means they could have just walked away.

Was the weather too bad or something?

Anybody know?

It was blizzard on the East coast and also there is no walking away in NYC. Most people live in different boroughsand there was no transportation, well due to the blizzard. I am glad that they own up to it. Better saying I Effin Effed up instead of covering it up.

IT would be less amusing if they only remembered about them today. ;)

Why? He wasn't running the MTA last year.

He probably wasn't even the train operator union employee that let the train load of people slip his mind...wonder what that guy/gal was thinking about when those folks were stuck?

wonder what that guy/gal was thinking about when those folks were stuck?

Poontang.

He was probably sexting his girlfriend.

It could have been he was worried about how he was going to get home?

My apologies...the person in charge of the train could have been a woman..maybe even one thinking about...well what jimreaper said...

"wonder what that guy/gal was thinking about when those folks were stuck?"

"My board shows that the A train isn't moving. I should...Who's going to Starbucks?"

LOL @ txmom32, anything to take a slap at Obama, huh?

Figures, And you're from Texas right? How well did your executive's prayer work out for your wildfires?

FredEvil....

LOL @ txmom32, anything to take a slap at Obama, huh?

Only when the political pay back fits.

Figures, And you're from Texas right? How well did your executive's prayer work out for your wildfires?

I'm from the Houston area where they were praying

http://blog.chron.com/newswatch/2011/06/photos-from-houston-rainstorm/

so it was much better than the disaster aid that was ignored by Obama.

Exactly what does Rick Perry have to do with a Union shop that forgot a train load of their consumers in a blizzard? Texas a right to work state and well we don't need to deny people jobs just because they don't pay dues to organized crime.

Fred Evil, your my hero right now.

fred,did you forget, oboma screwed texas by grounding the fire fighting planes !!!

Well...now the vulture lawyers will be all over this.... not that they give a sh1t about the people that suffered, this is a perfect set up to get paid!!!

They were just waiting for the statue of limitations to run out.

fred - it took more than 2000, that's right, two thousand homes burning to the ground in Texas this year before Washington DC was willing to extend any disaster relief aid to the state. Yet if twenty houses in California get threatened by a canyon fire, the expectations for federal assistance are expressed before the smoke is even seen.

Any wildfire situation is dangerous and scary for those in its path, but I am still amazed at how 100-200 acre fires in California get more attention than the 100,000+ acre fires in Texas. Two hundred houses and buildings were lost in wildfires at Possum Kingdom Lake in Texas in a 166,000 acre fire this summer - and there was no federal assistance...

Prayer and our own deterimination is the one thing we Texans can count on no matter what.

How does getting forgotten for a few hours on a train translate into a lawsuit w/ millions in compensation? Inconvenienced yes, but no one was injured or died. People in this country scream sue at the drop of a hat. Kind of diminishes the real cases.

txmom32 - Prayer outshines everything but God disapproves of us picking & choosing which scriptures we will obey. Might I remind you that the Bible speaks very strongly against disrespecting your leaders and speaking evil of them (that includes the leaders you don't like).

This story has about as much to do with politics as it does with your myth. This has more to do with mismanagement and incompetence, and those responsible should be fired. It does not matter who was in office or what cult you belong to.

b...The Bible also discusses false prophets, taxation, graft and corruption, not disowning God and well tons of other stuff....again I was talking about the power of prayer not the bible and not necessarily Christianity ...I was chiefly pointing out that Prayer is a far greater power than say Barack Obama's intentional ADD toward an entire state in the Union that he Governs...I do believe that God would agree.

I also think that the remark...5.1...that was collapsed because someone didn't agree with the politics:

Probably just another deal between the Union and the Obama TSA.

Was well within the bounds of the conversation and the COH....Obama's favor towards all things Union is well documented. It permeates his administration and has been noted prominently in all legislation he supports. I think it is absolutely reasonable to believe that he or a member of his cabinet or office could request the media not make a big deal of it to cover-up a glaring mistake by a member of a prominent union.

Crabbydust....of course it matters...how do you suppose the City of New York...the transportation department or the Union managed to keep this quite for months? The remarks in prayer came in when Fred Evil brought it up...I just disproved his lame point. Merry Christmas.

If it was Fredricka Evil I would ask to marry you.

lol... as if the idea that a non-union workforce would NEVER make a mistake is in any way credible. Sure - underpaid, overworked employees with no right to safety in the workplace, a 40 hour work week, etc. would have been right on top of this from the get-go. Mistakes happen. It has nothing to do with the evil middle-class union members.

Pedestrian....

as if the idea that a non-union workforce would NEVER make a mistake is in any way credible. Sure - underpaid, overworked employees with no right to safety in the workplace, a 40 hour work week, etc.

Seriously, do you really buy into this Union propaganda? What do you think several Federal departments at cabinet level oversee...legislative efforts of the workforce. The only difference is the non-union guy could get fired for cause if they made such a glaring mistake and the Union guy would probably get extra paid vacation.

SRM,

"Two hundred houses and buildings were lost in wildfires at Possum Kingdom Lake in Texas in a 166,000 acre fire this summer"

And yet, I'll bet you still supported diverting millions of cubic feet of water to use in fracking gas wells, rendering that water unfit for any other purpose.

Well, since politics were dragged into this....

The Obamacare version of this would be some surgeon later admitting he forgot about a patient on the operating table.

(OK, let me have it!!!)

Texas a right to work state and well we don't need to deny people jobs just because they don't pay dues to organized crime.

Only one problem with that one txmom32, Texas' government employees are all unioned. Every non-management employee of the oil and chemical company in Texas is a part of the Oil, Chemical & Atomic Workers Union (OCAWU). So your point is utterly invalid. Texas has just as many union protected folks as NY.

Hey Little Miss Texas,

F**K YOU!!! I'm a union employee who works her *ss off for next to nothing. I work up to 10 hours a day, 5 days a week. I'm lucky if I have time to take a 10 minute lunch and I rarely get more than a week off every year. My staff has been reduced by 50% and guess who's picking up the slack?

Little no-nothing, lazy @!$%#s like you, who sit around all-day stuffing your face while you spew hate on message boards make my blood boil!! Why don't you get off your fat ass and go do something positive--volunteer at a homeless shelter or soup kitchen--rather than spout off on things you know NOTHING about!

Ivan...(laughing)....

Every non-management employee of the oil and chemical company in Texas is a part of the Oil, Chemical & Atomic Workers Union (OCAWU)

That is simply not true....I have worked for three O & G companies, in non-managerial rolls, and never once was approached or required to join a Union. I know State of Texas Employees that are not Union members...some choose to be but none are compelled to be.

Mutts Rule...Hey...right back at ya are you perhaps a long shore-man...Your next to nothing would go further if you didn't pay union dues? I suppose that five hours a week of time and a half is just a pittance? You might consider the poor folks who can't get a job working with you because they couldn't afford the Union dues or might just stand on principle.

Now to get personal...I don't stuff my face all day and rarely do I sit around all day...this is a one off until I have to go get my darling girl...As for hate..you sound a bit bitter yourself...perhaps you should try a bubble bath....I do quite a bit of volunteering thank you.

Fred Evil....where did you go.

Sorry txmom, some of us have to work for a living so we can make those payments to Texas. How much does your state take vs how much it gives the Fed? (and is typical of red-states vs blu-states contributions) Aren't you late for one of those minimum wage jobs Perry fought so hard to get you from other states?

The Forest Service says it will not use aircraft that does not meet its requirements,

Not being privy to the legal wrangling, I can only assume that the COMPANY did not provide sufficient maintenance for the aircraft. Sounds like the Forest Service may have saved some aircrews lives by not forcing them to use improperly maintained aircraft.

Perhaps Texas shouldn't have cut it's firefighting budget this year!

Fred Evil...I'm just starting to work right now...kids are home and well they are my job...we have no income tax on Texas...

The only difference is the non-union guy could get fired for cause if they made such a glaring mistake and the Union guy would probably get extra paid vacation.

Seriously, do you really buy into this anti-Union propaganda? ;) Unions weren't formed for the fun of it, Tmom. They were formed to protect the workers from abuse.

Unfortunate situation. The people should be compensated in someway, but not allowed to sue. Lawsuits and insurance also contribute to inflation, which would then give people something else to complain about. Also, arguments about whether a better job is union or not is also not a real debate. I have spent 12 years in a union job, and 12 years in non-union job. The fact is, how much do the people running the company respect the workers. It could work either way. So don't discriminate a proud union member, but union members should not think of non-union workers as foolish either. Be proud that you have a job. That's like using the term "That black man or that white man". No, they are men.

My current non-union job treats people better than any place I've been. I don't pay union dues and our "team members" get bonuses for quality, safety, and attendance and Christmas. The real workers get the rewards for coming to work and those with health issues are forgiven, provided they have proof, and yes, we have great health coverage. My experience as a welder in a union factory has shown me that the lazy, careless man, who comes to work drunk on occasion is protected even when he's not a team player. The person who comes to work every day and doesn't cause drama, or think the world owes him is the person who succeeds. If you want to stand out, be outstanding. And, if you're in a low paying job situation, read the book (free online) called "Who Moved My Cheese", and watch the Walt Disney story about "The Ant and the Grasshopper", then react the way you think you should. The world owes us nothing. Don't be angry if you didn't succeed in life, but move forward and make the choices that will make you successful. Excuses are just excuses. You are where you want to be in life. Education is costly, but it's affordable if you can't afford it. Put priorities first. Then lust. I know I'm gonna have some haters for this one... so be it.

Trace...I can see why you are successful...you have a terrific outlook on life.

txmom32...can i please have your number?! Sticking it to the man, letting them know how it REALLY is. If only more people actually had some knowledge like you...i go to college right near where those fires happened, i spent days watching them rise over the landscape, it was scary. But as usual, Texans prevailed on their own.

But as usual, Texans prevailed on their own.

Yeah...not so much...

California alone has sent more than 700 fire personnel

you folks did it to yourselves. I have sympathy, and think the feds should help, but let's call this a 'learning opportunity,' shall we?

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/perry-asks-for-federal-funds-to-fight-wildfires-after-slashing-state-fire-budget/

Oh FredEvil...certainly we had support of other jurisdictions...and to be honest our good men and women from Texas are generally first in action to support others...the point was the President of all the people failed our state miserably and will continue to do so because he hold political grudges...sadly we have many democrats in the state of Texas that he let's down regularly....After all he has declared us (republicans and well red states) the enemy and will abuse his own party members in Texas as collateral damage.

txmom,

NO, your governor delayed until the situation was well over the top. Like a sea captain waiting until the ship was already sinking to radio for help. then complaining about how long rescue took in the middle of the storm.

Bill Marvell... I suppose if telling yourself helps you wake up in the morning go ahead and believe it....but even our DNC leadership in Texas knows that Obama has turned his back on our state...well until it was time to fund raise.

the point was the President of all the people failed our state miserably and will continue to do so because he hold political grudges

What sort of grudge? Where does this grudge reputedly come from? I see no evidence of any grudge, but for one in the opposite direction. I only see an excuse for you to bash the Pres, which appears to be par for the course from Texas.

the President of all the people failed our state miserably

Oh, really? Did you lose an entire city to a hurricane? Or was it a self-imposed FAIL because you elected a governor who cut critical funds at JUST the wrong time?

Toughen up and admit/accept your mistakes. Learn from them, don't simply bash the Pres mindlessly.

txmom,

Just because your Governor 1, 2, ??? is trying to take President Obama's job is little reason for your ugly attitude. No one abandoned Texas, Texas abandoned common sense by reducing or eliminating range and firebreak controls. Other states sent fire teams. Aircraft were grounded due to maintenance and weather conditions. And President Obama did offer assistance, which your Governor originally refused, in deferrence to three days of public prayer, which worked well as we all know. Are you just bitter because Alaske is bigger than Texas and has larger oil reserves? Number two feel good?

any passenger that never forgot anything should be compensated.

Suing the MTA is a waste of time. Ask everyone who has ever tried. Within a couple of weeks, the supposed incident won't have the documented substance of an urban legend.

gollie,

Ask the resort in British Columbia which caught hell for putting down some 30+ sled dogs that cost well over $10k per month just to feed. Not to mention the requirement for continual training (and personnel) just to keep the dogs sane. Snowmobile makes more sense.

I have to wonder if it would be safer to hike near Iran than use a NYC subway that guy is in charge of...

Hey Axle, why are you hating on those of us who can't leave like you did? Not nice.

JerseyGirl....I feel your pain (?). I lived in NJ (Ocean/Monmouth Counties...Exits 91-100+!!) for 30+ yrs before I headed out west. Stay strong and enjoy the ride.

Jersey - State Motto (should be) "That's just the way it is, it's not so baaaad".

(aka - damning with faint praise)

HAH..have you been to London, cameras all over... not that it's any safer, but they DO have tech all over.

NYC doesn't have squat for tech to watch the sheeple herds, they have lots of bipedal drones with badges though...armed bipedal drones...that love to pepper spray handcuffed old ladies that are sitting on the ground...

Who told you that NYC has a lot of high tech survellance? LOL Their best security device is the sign that claims there is the possibility that some of the platforms may or may not have working cameras.

Perhaps the passengers tried. After all it was a storm. Who knows who was available or even reachable. Give the passengers a break.

Just a W.A.G. but since the subway is underground-hence the sub-maybe the phones didn't work. Can you hear me now?

And yet it is largely Union demand that broke the transportation system and well created the bureaucracy.

Hi Txmom32, I signed on to find out about the story then started reading the political discussions. Or should I say you against most everyone? It was so nice to see that no matter how rude, ignorant or vulgar the other party was (chicked hiding behind a keyboard has no fear) you politely, skillfully & pleasantly responded to all. You are NOT alone. After our earthquake in Virginia of 5.8 last April he ONLY now has agreed to release FEMA funds to this small town that was so badly hit. You would think more people would be working after all these natural disasters up & down the East coast alone!

But I digress. I didn't come here to banter with the others for I doubt I have your patience. I just wanted to wish you a Merry Christmas!!

To anyone who may be curious. I am strictly an Independant. I don't like ANY politicians! ;)

Tabi,

I imagine that if President Obama was there on the same day personally handing out checks while crews were still fighting fires and checking semi-collapsed buildings for survivors, you would be happier. But then again, wouldn't that be just another bail-out of a collapsed system?

Funds should be awarded AFTER authorization AND a complete survey of damage. And why should more people be working? According to the Republicans and many polls, the American people want smaller government, and smaller governent means fewer government workers Further, we are in a recession, which means we have excessive manufacturing and business capacity. Your losses, though tragic, may mean more work in another part of the country. And regional clean-up and repair is usually handled regionally due to varying standards and licensing requirements.

Finally, I would also wish you a Merry Christmas and a better New Year.

For the edification of those who didn't read the article. The train was stranded near an open air platform. "Open air" as in "Watch out for that first step. The trip down isn't so bad. It's the landing that'll kill ya". It was during a blizzard. Streets were unpassable. Buses, fire trucks, ambulances were stuck. It was national news for Pete's sake.