BINGO as an acessory to a rape!

One of two things with this this this bastard,he needs to be either shot or thrown into prison for life and handed over to the other prisoners.Getting shot would be the easy way out.I prefer the later.

Agreed. That's way worse than what Paterno did (or didn't do).

Definitely charged as an accessory. What a sick bunch of perverts. Being put in the general prison population is being too nice.

I so agree! JAIL Being shot is way too easy! He needs to suffer for a while....quite a while.....do it slowly prisoners, slow and painful.

If Paterno did the right thing....this would have been prevented!

It already was bad enough but his wife needs to be arrested for not helping a victim when she was aware of what was going on and worse she continued to let this madmsn out into society to prey on more children without calling the police!

She should definitely be charged. This woman knew and knows how perverted her husband is and what he has been doing for years. She is just as bad.

GET A ROPE! Enough said about this sick bastard & his wife should recieve some sort of punnishment for not speaking out & stopping her husbands' dirty deeds! Perhaps it would NOT have been so many young boys if she would have blown the whistle along time ago! Just sayin'...

I agree, if this is true allegations then the wife should be arrested to for not protecting the victims or even coming to the boy's rescue! She is just as guilty as hll

She should be charged the same as a get-away driver in a bank robbery. If a murder occurs in the during the holdup the get-away driver is charged with murder the same as if he pulled the trigger.

I agree. IF she knew what was going on and did nothing, she is just about as guilty as him, in my opinion. She is at least an accessory to the crimes.

that is where he would LIKE to be...protected and understood....wrong place for him.

so is the asistant coach.........

I couldn't agree with you more!!

Don't just put Paterno on blast. That assistant coach that saw and heard things happening in the locker room should have gone straight to the police as well. If HE would have done something, screw university policy, a lot more of this wouldn't have happened either. I'm not trying to make excuses for Paterno, but heck, that other coach should be dragged under right along with him.

And people, if Sandusky was raping little boys, what makes you think being raped in prison would be punishment for him? Put the man in solitary confinement.

Perhaps she knew and was afraid...but then that is no excuse for allowing this sort of thing. I agree that it should be looked into.

The sad thing is they will put him in protective custody just like they do with cops and famous people....Why should he get special treatment ? But if you get put in jail when you are innocent you end up in a cell with someone who has just commited his third strike and is facing life.....But this scumbag will have bail too...And he can afford it...I know a 80 year old man who was in jail for 2 weeks for pee-ing in public because there was no bathroom around and a cop was creeping in the alley probably doing the same thing..The old man couldn't work the phones right and nobody knew he was in there to pay his 10% of $150 bail......BUt like I said this jerk will be out in a minute or in protective custody...UUUUggggHHHHH

what a sick perv! he needs to b in gen pop not solitary. just because he molests boys, does not mean he likes it himself...rape is about control, not sex. take his control, and he will suffer like he made his victims.everyone involved from asst coaches to his wife should fry!sick bunch of freaks!

If nothing else, maybe these dispicable acts will deter the future use or need for certain words, like pedophobe, beastiophobe, or saitophobe.

Believe me, the wife always knows, but takes a tactical position, leaving it an open question as to she and her husbands future together.

Perhaps the Mrs. Sandusky is an accessory to, but not necessarily a willing partner. There is much more to come out of this closet, before it's time to close the door.

Anybody aware of a crime such as this has the moral obligation to call the police.

I worked on a small to medium sized campus, about 7,000 live on students. Well everyone knew about everyone on that campus. Once something was said it was known campus wide, except for the president and maybe a few of the vice presidents. Other than that it was common knowledge for everyone, there were no secrets. So I'm thinking the sports dept. knew all about this guy. I believe thats why he quit and wasn't fired, so this way it was a clean get away for him and good riddance for the sports dept. They knew all too well what he was doing and they should stand trial and they should all be convicted along with this idiot.

hopefully once he is in prison he will get the same done to him.

bob your sick, I almost want to say, maybe if it happens to you then you just may feel differently about it and even money may not make it any better. But I won't. I'm just going to keep it at you being a sick person yourself.

bob; Its one thing to want to make a couple extra dollars because the holidays are right around the corner and like you said your a little low on the funds, but to wish the vitims nothing is deeply wrong. That little money they get from that college won't be enough to erase the memory of that idiot and who knows how and how much its affected them to this points in their life, which is something they will never get back. Then another thing, its not real easy to stand up and say, yes he did that to me too, when your trying to forget the whole thing ever happened. bob maybe if you joined the catholic church.... no never mind, I doubt you'd ever get raped, some undesirable people won't get raped, even rapists know when someone like you wants affection and they don't care how they get it. Yeah sorry bob, you'd be lucky if you could pay for some affection, thats just my thoughts, but good luck to you.

Being a liberal I agree with you tim thomson. Yeah I agree with that 100% and some. Its a shame when little old ladies can't walk down the streets of their neighborhood after dark. Not just little old ladies but also little old men too. I believe theres some truth to cutting a thieves hands off and them not doing it again. As far as this guy goes, I'm not sure what the correct punishment for him would be, but then again being that he does have a family then maybe them suffering from this will be punishment enough for him. Look at Madoff's son, he hung himself. So maybe theres nothing you can do to this guy that will serve as punishment for him, it just seems like he's so far out there that I don't know anything would affect him.

So very sad. How can people do these things to anyone especially children. There is no punishment severe enough. His action were cruel and unusual, so should his punishment be.

PS tim thomson - let's keep politics out of this. I am very liberal and do not agree w/ your sweeping generalizations at all.

hold on ! i agree with Bob here. I have children so of course i would not want anything like this to happen to them & any animal who rapes a child should be put up against a wall and shot! BUT... (quote from victim #9) " he attempted to rape me 16 times and sometimes successfully" are you f_cking kidding me !?!? I would think after the first time you would go to the police, teacher,parent,somebody!!! And even if you don't telll someone... I would think you wouldn"t put yourself in that or any situation with that idiot another 15 times !! C'mon, this is about money and i would bet that same money that these boys whom are now men live an alternate life style. Im not saying some were not victims here but i disagree all these boys didn't know what was going on with this creap at their age. This just doesn't add up to me so many years later.

Its not that simple, specially for boys...if a girl keep it to herself can you imagine a boy. unfortunately, most parents are afraid of talking with their kids about sex, so the kids will be shy to tell them about being raped by some pervert like this. I believe this guy had done a pretty good job in keeping this boys from telling anything to authorities.

If she knew she's as guilty as he is. There is no excuse.

sandusky's interview reminded me of this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTJGkwMf08k

everyone is lining up for the big payoff?...really? if people were looking for a payoff then they are going about it the wrong way, and thinking that victims of rape and being molested are just looking for some cash is as sick as the crime they have suffered thru.

Why isn't this scuzz in jail right now and away from everybody, and no press???

What a stupid assed thing for his atty to do; let him run off at the mouth. Sandusky's goose is cooked and then some, thanks to all the press and comments that Sandusky made.

There are so many things wrong with this entire picture that it's not funny.

your kid brings home expensive items: golf clubs???? You as a parent should see a big red flag! Why is your tween son coming home with an item he can't use and an expensive one, to boot? For all you know, it may be stolen goods! ASK your kid what's up...

And if it turns out he got the gift from an adult "friend", you call that "friend" and tell the person to take back his gift toot sweet. Parents have been warned that giving expensive gifts is a "courtship" sign of a molestor!

A kid is permitted to sleep in your extra bedroom???

WHY???

How come his wife didn't find this kinda sorta strange????

Somebody walks in on Sandusky and a kid and doesn't full on JUMP sandusky and fight the guy??? You let a kid get molested in plain sight of you??? You are just as guilty as HE is, then!

Sick sick sick and just plain wrong....everybody is at fault.

james, being that this guy was the 9th person to come up and say he was raped makes me think he had a real hard time coming up and saying anything about this at all. No one knows why he didnt say anything when it was happening, I know myself when I was a kid and I came home and said something like this I more than likely would of got a ass whoopin. I never came home saying something bad happened to me, no one cared and their thinking was, it was my fault even if it wasn't. Why get an ass whooping on top of just getting one. Then this guy surely had something he was using that made these kids come back. What that could of been, I wouldn't have a clue, as you, myself I probably would of started swinging after the 2nd time and for sure after the 3rd time. But we don't know how this victim was brought up and well I can't blame the kid here at all. When you have an adult that was in his 40's maybe 50's and not knowing better then I just can't blame the kid here. Maybe his parents thought it was good for the kid to see this guy and he didn't want to disappoint them. Who knows the reason for this but I do think parents need to know what their children are doing all the time for their saftey and I also believe that parents need to listen to their children and understand what they are saying too. I think the facts to this coming out, should be listened to by every parent out there. Maybe it can be prevented if parents listen and understand.

Could not agree more--that woman is just as culpable as he is. They both should be sent to the gas chamber over the damage the two of them have done to these kids.

What woman (let alone a mother!) would allow something like that to happen in her own home? That's just unfathomable to me.

i dont get it if i'm 12,13,14,15,16,17 years old what ever and a man rape me r tell me he want to have oral sex with me, i would have killed him r at least never see him again, just sayin

This is to victim #9 liar liar pants on fire, you got raped 16 times or attempted rape 16 times, you screemed once, but you kept go over to his basement, REALLY

He needs to be put in a prison cell with BUBBA!

I'm starting to think if someone witnesses a crime and they do nothing about it, they should also be tried as the criminal. Now thats going to have variations to it but like in her case she may not of witnessed it but she knew of it and so yep, she should also be treated as the criminal.

Now these people leaving comments in here that they would of never let that happen to them can't really say that because they don't know what they would of did at that age. Lets just say this guy was giving them some money and gifts and then he's promices them they will be the qb or starting linebacker of the team if they just go along with his plans. Who knows maybe he told them they needed to get used to it because most pro players were like that, but you never hear about it and when your a kid and your talking to a guy like this, that is coaching for a prominent school like he was, its too hard to say what he did to make them not say anything or do anything til now. You know he BS'd them, so I'm thinking it was believable for them to go along with it til now. I'm interested in the facts when they do come out. I think every parent should pay attention to them, just so they can see the signs if it was to happen in their neck of the woods one day.

I think he molested me also, let em think, yes he did. Leave the guy alone, he is trying to figure out if he is gay or not. Who hasn't been there?

I think he molested me also, let em think, yes he did. Leave the guy alone, he is trying to figure out if he is gay or not. Who hasn't been there?

How did this post twice? What a funny world We live in.

My male first cousin and I, both 3 years old at the time, were being baby-sat by another of our male cousins who was roughly 16 or 17 years old. Our older cousin called both of us youngsters into one of the bedrooms "just to show us something". He exposed himself to us and insisted that we touch him there. He was very insistent and both of us touched him. We were scared to death! My other cousin told him that he was telling so we were not bothered again that evening.

I had never been so embarrassed in my young life and I felt like we had done something sickeningly wrong and was too scared to tell it so I didn't. My other cousin didn't care and did tell his mom. When my mom questioned me I was mortified to admit what happened. I have never forgotten to this day how it felt to have that happen and thank goodness that that was all that ever happened.

Our older cousin eventually ended up as a pedophile and in a state hospital for the insane as well as he really had some serious issues. I am over 50 years of age now and over the years I have learned to speak up for myself and never let anyone make me do anything I don't want to do. I have issues of my own but I know that if someone ever tried to make me do something sexual, or anything else for that matter, that they would be in such a fight for their life, they may face a fatality.

One "Nut" marries another "Nut"--Sandusky and his wife.

Let's hope the wife is a committed Rapist as well. The entire Staff at U Penn should be sued.

Sports Teams, College and Pro ones, are for the dense brain, stupids. The brain doesn't stretch too far, but something else does.

Does the Justice System have a 2 for one, when it comes to sexually molesting young children?

Now, I do think he will be put in a hard core prison, where he will be the "Boy Toy"---Let's hear San dusky SCREAM.

My guess is that if all of this is true, he threatened everyone to be quiet or they would be in some horrible kind of trouble. That's what abusers do.

Why hasn't SHE been arrested??????????

Public hanging for him, and his sick wife!

Leaton and James: They were kids. They probably were forced by their parent to go over to Sandusky's house and spend the night. Of course, the kid doesn't want mom to know what's been going on because he is so embarrassed, ashamed, etc. So, what excuse can he come up with for not going with Sandusky? Nothing that will work with mom... she thinks he's great. They were kids, they had no control over the situation. To blame them is just plain wrong.

errrggg, this sounds like a; horror story........

Prison is too easy for him, he will enjoy all the young boys. Hang him!

hold on ! i agree with Bob here. I have children so of course i would not want anything like this to happen to them & any animal who rapes a child should be put up against a wall and shot! BUT... (quote from victim #9) " he attempted to rape me 16 times and sometimes successfully" are you f_cking kidding me !?!? I would think after the first time you would go to the police, teacher,parent,somebody!!! And even if you don't telll someone... I would think you wouldn"t put yourself in that or any situation with that idiot another 15 times !! C'mon, this is about money and i would bet that same money that these boys whom are now men live an alternate life style. Im not saying some were not victims here but i disagree all these boys didn't know what was going on with this creap at their age. This just doesn't add up to me so many years later.

Let's try looking at this from another angle. First, if Sandusky is like most child molesters, he probably threatened these boys to keep them quiet. Often, molesters will threaten harm, not to the victim, but to his/her family. Second, when you've got someone who has the status in the community that Sandusky had, who is seen as being a wonderful, charitable person who does all he can to help others - do you REALLY think most people would believe you if you DID tell? Remember that there were many victims of pedophile priests who DID tell their parents - and were severely punished for "saying such things about the holy father".

As far as them getting money - at the moment, we're talking about a CRIMINAL case against Sandusky, not a civil lawsuit. If and only if some of the victims decided to bring suit directly will they receive any money. And NO amount of money will ever come close to making up for what they suffered.

Finally - if by "alternative lifestyle', you mean these young men are gay - you need some serious help. People don't become gay because they're raped by someone of the same gender - in fact, they don't "become" gay at all - they are BORN THAT WAY.

Until this article I haven't read much if anything regarding this case. While glancing at the news tonight and seeing his face--he will never face his accusers in court. I predict this man will kill himself! He already look dead to me. I pray for the victims peace!

He should be put into a situation where no one will listen to his screams. Pay a guard to walk away for 15 min or so...

Speaking of ignoring attacks, I am starting to be in disbelief that sooooooo many people could be so heartless as to not stop this man. To give him a pass to ruin young lives because of his success. The idealist in me doesn't want to believe that there would be such a high concentration in PA of callous individuals that not only would do nothing when presented with a serious accusation like rape, but would do nothing when they are actually witnessing a rape. So many cowards who are too worried about their own prosperity to stand up to a monster.

Lolly; I have to agree with what your saying and because I worked on a college campus I also understand how they did things. They never wanted this story to come out, they knew it would cost them a lot of money if it did and thats why they said he left on his own, which I don't agree with. I think there are a lot of lies in this story and this is one of them. I do believe he was finally told to leave or get fire and maybe even turned over to the police and being he was a big name coach he did leave peacefully and without any of this story surfacing back then. The board at that college was hoping this story never came out and just for financial reason, no remorse for the children. I do believe the members of the board knew about this back then and all along. As sad as it is thats how I believed it happened, universities try to handle their problems themselves. You never hear all the stories that happen on campus, especially rape cases. They try to keep this kind of stuff from even spreading on campus. Students tell their parents and they are taken out of this school and put in another one, where the parents feel they are safe. Thats old school disipline in colleges and even now its still the same, but I also do believe its starting to change a little, more younger and more conscientious people are stepping up and trying to keep things on the straight now days. At least I want to think so, but places like that make a lot of money, with about a 15% increase every year they are scared to cut their own throats if stuff like this leaks out. Greed or do whats right, greed wins 99% of the time.

Agree 100% with James, I know everyone is tryingto be a psychologist in here, but there is absolutely no excuse why you were still going back after the first time, and never telling anyone, give me a break! I am in no way trying to defend this guy, no matter what, he should fry for all he has done, but I am sure many of these stories coming forward are going to be BS!

I read an article once about rape and they compared rapists to heroin addicts. Rapists chase that high they get from the rape as do heroin addicts from the dope. I guess the planning stages of the act gets them high and then the final act itself is when they catch the high from it and then they continue to rape for more of the stimulation they get from it. Where heroin addicts need more dope to catch their high. Basically the article was saying that they can't help themseles once they do it one time. I guess rape is a release of a whole lot of endorphins at once for the rapist, from making someone do something they don't want to. It was a good article and it makes me think that just maybe one day they'll be able to help rapist before they commit the act. I don't know, I'm just guessing myself and however you look at it, theres no justification, but understanding the criminal may help in stopping rape from happening one day. That article helped me to understand rape the best that I ever have before reading the article, but like I said it dosen't make it right.

I don't think any of the stories will be BS, too many people came forward now and theres got to be a lot of truth to them all. If there is a bs story rape claim, then it will be bob and leaton crawford trying to make some extra holiday cash from it. I really don't think any of the claims will be false. I actually believe he did them, right after the story came out and he was interviewed, I forget exactly how he said what he said, but it was like he was looking for a safe place for himself and that made me think he was on the fence and waiting to jump on the safe side. He's guilty as his wife is too and all of the people at Penn State are too.

Nelson-537300, there have always been those of us that dominate and those that are dominated. As a dominator, you could never hope to understand a victim of domination. You expressed views that expose much more about your personal nature than you could possibly imagine. All pedophiles are control freaks. Their inability to exact control on their peers is the driving force to seek a weaker force. Children.

A dominated victim my return time and time again to the same torment because the dominator has convinced them of their uselessness. I suspect that many of us are very aware of this practice. We may not be pedophiles. We may be over-bearing spouses, parents or employers long accustomed to absolute control over another. We may be dominating politicians piling our bags of treasure higher and higher as our dedicated victims continue to support and defend us against their own interest.

The one common denominator of such monsters is to blame the victim for all of their ills. We can all testify to such depravity in today's political and economic climate. Blame the poor that suffer most from our economic upheaval instead of the wealthy (riding high on the poor's misery) all the way to the bank.

I miss the political debates. Pretty much a lot of common posts on this issue. I'm surprised Newts not in the front pages. Maybe tomorrow. I'm guessing a little here, but I'm thinking besides Ron Paul giving it to him already, Mitt is the next one to let him have it good. Mitt had high numbers almost the whole time and now Newts got the lead and he has that millionaire with the real pretty hair in his corner too, so thats got to piss Mitt off right now. Its so close now too. Oh well, everyone got a little rest from them and I hope just because the holidays are coming up they don't decide to take a break from politics. Oh yeah, by the way, Sandusky is guilty. Hey you have to hand it to Ron Paul doing what he did and owning up like a real man. I'm liking him again. He's showing that he's on the square with everyone and playing politics. He knows whats going on. Smart man. Indepent party? Don't matter, he just about has my vote right now. Only thing that bothers me about him is that he wants to leave things up to the state, maybe a little more than I would like. I have to read up on him a little more. Good guy from what I see right now.

Wow, nice post commonsense, thats pretty cool.

Before you attack the wife, think for a second. You do not know she heard him. I cannot hear someone talking to me from the next room, and in the house I grew up in, you could never hear anything in the basement. And the house is two stores, you don't even know if she was inside. So I cannot be as fast as some of you to condemn her.

This you can never know, and the victim cannot know it either. Yes if she did hear it; then she is a monster too.

But I see her as another one of his victims for now until there is some evidence to incriminate her too.

Rape is a crime of violence and control.

Jerry Sandusky deserves whatever hell awaits him as does anyone who was complicit; that might include his wife. But there is not one shred of evidence, even the word of a victim, that she is. He was in the basement, he cannot know what she could hear; if anything. Nobody but he knows if she heard anything, and if that anything even sounded like a scream for help.

James - have you ever been raped? Ok... now lets break it down: have you ever been an at risk child who's mentor took advantage of his position of power and raped you?

It is one thing for a boy/woman to be walking down the street and have a complete stranger grab them and rape them... of course they will report it. They don't care about what happens to the person and it won't affect their life.

Now think about it you were raised in an abusive home or in not so great circumstances. The leader of a foundation that is supposed to help you... and who has been nice to you and invited you over to his house to hang out a few times and shown you kindness rapes you. Many children (even at the ages of 13 and 14) still have a hard time thinking that it wasn't something that they did to cause it. Why would someone who was supposed to help them hurt them? He called for help and the guys wife did nothing... she is an adult, an authority figure. What if he told other people and they didn't think it was a big deal. This is an embarrasing thing for a child... what if telling only makes it worse.

The fact that they are coming out of the woodwork now makes complete sense. For the first time in their life, someone might believe them when they talk about the horribly disgusting things this man did to them. These children (and now young adults) deserve to be heard and not judged. That is what kept them silent for so long.

I guess the people here have never heard that in the US you are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. People are lying in this case and until everything comes out at trial, we will not know whom is lying other than Mike McQueary as his lies are now part of the grand jury/police record. Mrs Sandusky came out with a statement last week stating this latest "victim's" account is 'absolutely untrue'.

Depending upon which McQueary story you belive to be true (Sandusky might be acting inappropriately in the shower story or the rape story) McQueary would be an accessory to rape too. Where are the calls that this monster be put in prision? Pretty darn sick if you ask me to just walk out on a kid being inappropriately touched (best case) or raped. In this new victim's story Mrs Sandusky was just thought to have been in the home and did not see what was happening. McQueary and the shower victim both said McQueary saw what was going on and that McQueary did NOTHING. Now who is sick and disgusting and deserving of life in prison as bubbles the love machine's toy?

"cant wait until this guy goes to prison and gets passed around"

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"if she knew and did nothing she is just as guilty."

Well if that's the case will you also say that she should be raped in prison as well?

The problem of prison rape will never be confronted seriously if sick reflexive unthinking attitudes like yours go unchallenged. The supreme irony that your ilk never seem to understand is that younger, weaker men and adolescents are raped in prison in numbers that dwarf Sandusky's alleged victims, and we'll continue to ignore it exactly because of what you demonstrate here.

Your point is totally incoherent and makes no sense at all.

First of all, no one is going to "pass around" a man of his age. Second- has anybody given any thought to the fact that just maybe some of these claims are financially motivated? Screaming from the basement? That is not a person that would have said nothing much less have waited to report it.

After the priest scandals, surely the notion that a victim is too afraid to come forward is old. so why now? 2 months after the initial accusations made headlines? Did this person "just" realize it was the same guy?

And for the record, I have STILL not heard anything to say Joe Paterno knew or saw any of this first hand yet he got fired. you want justice- get this man rehired.

That may be true, but in practice, it isn't quite so easy. The wife always knows at one level or another, but turns a blind eye, and usually for the sake of her family. But too, she may be under threat, and that can completely alter the playing field. She is a woman, with a husband and children. Women will protect their families from most any threat, and yes, even a threat as tawdry as this has become.

Don't understand why some of you are pining for prison rape.

Perhaps you'll sing another tune after a rapee is released and hooks up with your sister or daughter, infecting them with aids. Or, perhaps you'll be infected yourself after bedding down with someone's sister or daughter. Think, people!

ghoi - Thanks for your post and it makes perfect sense. I understand the initial tendency to wish for "eye for an eye" parallel justice for rapists such as Sandusky appears to be, but rape is never justified. For that matter violence, which rape surely is, can only be justified in defense of yourself or others. Had that assistant coach who caught Sandusky knocked him on his ass with a heavy blunt object, while in the act and just before calling the police, I'd pretty much be OK with that.

pro.ten

It saddens me that you had to go through that. What is it about ministers and pedophilia? I wonder if its the power thing?

Yes, pedophilia is typically a power issue rather than a sex issue. Sex is the vehicle for them to demonstrate their power over their victims. If the perpetrators were castrated, they'd just find another way to abuse.

The Judge called it an abuse of power. I think he was right. Sometimes I think they get drawn to work that allows them "access". He excercised his abuse across all bounds. I had earlier known of his 'comforting' women in the grips of divorce. But kids younger than me was crossing a line, I could no longer be around. Oddly, though I called the police, at that time I didn't know they would do anything about it, especially with the church.

pro.ten what a brave thing for a young man to have to do..

Pro.ten, your story makes me want to weep and scream at the same time. As a Christian, I want to scream against those who abuse their postitions to harm others and against all those who enable them supposedly in the name of the church. I want to weep for those who have been harmed in almost every way possible by people who misuse power and authority and call themselves church leaders. However, I must commend you for your courage in taking action against this evil.

Pro-Ten

What a horrific experience for a young man to experience. Kudos to you for stepping out of the norm and doing what was right. Brave and courageous!

Pro.ten, what a horrible thing for you to deal with! I applaude your ability to take a stand! You will never know how many children you saved from this same fate. I am sorry it had to be your own parents.

I'll bet the priest was catholic .

Actually he was Lutheran. Missouri Synod. And in this case, he lost his job.

Pro.ten, that is amazing that you did that.

Like seen too much, I am also a Christian and it sickens me that ministers and clergy above all people would do such a thing to people.

Again, way to stand up for what is right. You've saved so many by doing that.

And at 16 you certainly KNEW full well that what your father was doing was frankly an 'abomination.' However, 'it is sad that your mother did not have the moral courage to support you. She obviously became his chattel, 'prisoner' AND abettor for life, with the same tendency to protect and cover for pedophilia as did the Catholic church. My deepest appreciation for your strength of character, pro.ten. It was certainly devastating to discover that your own parents were guilty of such abuse and indifference to the welfare of children.

I'll bet NOT! A catholic priest cannot get married and have kids. Get your facts straight. Preists aren't the only clergy that abuse kids.

Pro ten

Am very sad about ur story!! but it also gives me hope to know,that there are very courage people like u out there!! thankssssssssss

Pro.ten, I'm so sorry for what happened to you.. but.. THANK YOU.. You have my undying respect and gratitude. I hope you have peace in your heart. You are a good soul. Take care.

Pro.ten, you made an incredible and difficult choice for the safety and well-being of children. It cost you in immeasurable ways. Society is in your debt. I hope you went on to find surrogate parents who provided you the love and support you deserve. Thank you for what you did.

Until they start removing the testicles and penises of these predatoros, NOTHING WILL STOP. And don't give me this BS about rape is just an act of viiolence. What do they do? Send sex offenders to prison. That is like sentencing the cookie monster to a bakery. For God's sake, let's get real, make convicted sex offenders have to pee sitting down for the rest of his life, and things will start to change. Oh God, wish I were president

Pro.ten, a heartbreaking experience for all concerned, the least of whom is NOT you. You showed enormous strength, compassion, honor and moral conscience in making that sort of sacrifice for the benefit of others. I can only imagine your loss and pain at such a tender age. Thank you on behalf of innocents who were saved from your father's power trip of abuse. I wish only peace of mind, happiness and blessings for you today and everyday.

Actually...Yes it IS about pro 10--and every child who is preyed upon...then subjected to the second victimization of not being believed, or being scared they won't be believed. Just read the posters here who presumably are adults who are so completely ignorant of why a child might not act like an adult when victimized.

Pro 10 God Bless You. The Church has never been about protecting Scribes and Pharisees just because they are Scribes and Pharisees, in fact I seem to remember a guy who's birthday is coming up said some stuff about that. Good for you Pro 10 and all who do the correct thing regarding child predators, it takes huge guts.

Pedophiles/child molesters (same sex) rarely have adult gay attractions. They are not gay, they are a totally different mentality. They are attracted to the opposite thing that most gay men are. They see a young boy; not as a male, but as a effeminate object. The appeal to them is gone when the kid begins to be more like a man and less like a child.

I would never wish rape on anyone...period. But to imply that a pedophile/child molester would enjoy being raped in prison by adult inmates demonstrates a fundamental ignorance of what Pedophile/Child Molesters are.

My opinion of them is they are disgusting sick individuals...it is hard for me to condemn a person I consider mentally ill. But in this case I will bend my rule because their activities infringe on others, and worse those who cannot defend themselves.

Commonsense101 - I agree with you regarding those who are dominated and those doing the dominating. To those who think repeated sexual acts are "unbelievable", ask why then did boy and girls repeatedly allow themselves to be alone with their priests? Answer: These pedophiles are in a position of power, influence and credibility. Remember, Sandusky started GROOMING these boys - emphasize BOYS - when they were 10 or 11 years old. These boys were "troubled" and often in conflict at home, which is why they were referred to Second Mile in the first place - so their support at home was likely little to none. Also, they were BOYS, not men. If someone assaults you as an adult, you have more power to fight back, call the authorities, or walk away. That is not true with children. Note that repeatedly the victims' relationships with Sandusky ended when they were about 15 - 17, an age where they are becoming young MEN and discover more personal power. They can talk back, fight back, walk away or even DRIVE AWAY by themselves - and they did. Then Sandusky would turn to the next 10 - 12 year old boy....

Regarding Sandusky's wife, she was likely requested or ordered by Sandusky to stay away from the boys. He may have intimidated her into not asking questions, or always came up with a "reason" why he had to go down to the basement to "check on" the boy or "say Good Night." Also, we do not know where Mrs. Sandusky was when Victim 9 was screaming for help in the basement. We ASSUME she could hear him, but she could have been at the other end of the house, upstairs, in the bathroom - Who knows? Sandusky claims there was always kids in his house (making it "chaotic", he said) - Didn't anyone else in the house hear Victim 9? ... Consider, too, there is a LOT of denial on the part of wives (and mothers). A more common scenario occurring every day is children being molested by a "live in" boyfriend, while the mother of the victims (usually girls) are either denying to themselves it is happening, or have made a choice to stay in the relationship, for personal or financial security, at the cost of their children. Few women can "wrap their head around" their being married to a pedophile, so they deny it or minimize it, because they would have to ask themselves, "Then why did he marry me??" There's guilt in that, even if she really does not know.

Regarding the victims' financial motives, remember Victim's 9 and 10 responded to the call - repeated by the media, with a displayed telephone number - for other victims to come forward, and they called the Pennsylvania State Police and the Child Exploitation Tip Line (AG's Office), respectively. They were ENCOURAGED to contact law enforcement because there was a strong suspicion other victims were "out there" who had not come forward. There is no indication they have filed any civil suit.

Finally, regarding Sandusky's time in prison - IF he ever sees any (remember OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony? It's never a sure thing) - forget any calls that he spend any time in the "general population". Don't waste your breath. Sandusky would be segregated as a PEDOPHILE, not because he is well known. Pedophiles are segregated from the general population as a rule, because regardless of what crimes the other guys have done to land themselves in prison, they will not tolerate someone who could molest their children. Pedophiles are segregated for their protection. With that said, even Jeffrey Dahmer could not get enough protection to save him from getting killed in prison. (But then again, I cannot remember if he was a pedophile or if he only killed and ate young men....)

Just sayin...

If christians are led by the "spirit" and have the "spirit" living in them, How can they do horrific stuff like this that even the most heathen of us would not do? Can't wait to hear this

Because they're "Christians" in name only. True Christians who, although imperfect like everyone else, are the people who walk the walk. So much emphasis is put upon those who talk the talk, and that's a shame. Indeed, I steer clear of the talky, talk talkers in deference to associating with like-minded and like-hearted followers of Christ who walk the walk. Faith is a verb and it is ever growing, ever active and ever renewing. For the record, it is my belief that televangelism is the worst thing for Christianity possible. I think mega-churches pose a great danger to the masses because of their sheer size and the income paid for their pastors. Indeed, I don't believe the "church" is a building at all. I believe that the church is made up of individuals who have a faith connection and a love connection through Jesus Christ. There will be no group discounts on Judgement Day. The Path to Salvation is SO narrow, I can envision it being just wide enough for a single file line. .. one at a time. .. individuals answering for their own behaviors and for what they allowed to become the contents of their heart. I hope this helps in terms of answering our question, Bob.

So what is the difference between the christian who walks the walk and the heathen who walks the walk

The true faithful Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist and many other religious people let their walking do all of the talking. The hypocrites wear their "faith" on their shoulders for all to see and talk about it frequently in case any may have missed it displayed on their shoulders. They will cleverly disguise their walk or claim previous missteps were answered through repentance by the grace of God. We may be forbidden to judge them, yet have every reason to be wary of them.

KJV. Proverbs 13.20 He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed.

Has anyone lavishing "pro.ten" with praise considered the very real possibility that he invented a lie to "pile on" as they say in football? Is that actually the post of a bitter atheist who hates religion and is simply trying to smear Christians with a false accusation? Or is it what it claims to be? We cannot know. Unless we investigate the news reports for mention of the Missouri Synod and find the same story reported somewhere else with corroborating details.

In which case, his comments amount to an identification of himself to the public, if they are indeed true.

Not something most people who post on the Internet under a pseudonym wish to do. Thus, I have at least this much reason to doubt that story.

Now that you've heard at least this one reason for withholding your judgment, is the story STILL believable to you, people?

I cannot say that I have a COMPELLING reason to disbelieve him.

But I have no particular reason to believe him, either.

His story might be true.

It might not.

The same can be said for all of these other accusations that are being thrown out there that everyone has already passed judgment on. They may be true. They may not. (The argument that because there are so many accusers it amounts to evidence of guilt is fallacious. Christ Himself had a whole mob of accusers. He still does.)

That's why we have courtrooms and laws and judges and juries. Let the system run its course.

And unless you, too, wish to be damned, be prepared to forgive whoever is found to be guilty, whether it's a lying accuser, or a lying accused.

You, too, deserve to be put to death for the sins you've committed against the Holy God. Many of you deserve to be put to death just for the wicked things you've said in this forum.

"Unless you forgive every one who trespasses against you, neither will the Heavenly Father forgive you your trespasses."

"So what is the difference between the christian who walks the walk and the heathen who walks the walk"

The difference is that the Christian has an acceptable answer to give to God on the day of death, because the Christian, unlike the heathen, knows that God raised Jesus from the dead, and therefore knows that the resurrection of the dead is a reality, and therefore a real possibility for himself/herself; it is that hope that saves the believer from the despair that is the deathbed fate of one who does not possess the faith in Christ's resurrection that is the earnestness of that hope.

"All who call on the name of the Lord, shall be saved."

You can't call His name when you die if you don't know what it is.

It's really just that simple.

WHY IS HE NOT IN JAIL. He seems to think he is above the law. How can his wife defend him. Does she live in the dream world that her husband has made? I wouldn't let my children or grand children any where near him. He walks around and acts so COCKY. Not guilty, my A@@@. NO child should be subjected to any of this. Whoever saw that creep molest that boy and did nothing, HE IS JUST AS GUILTY. Penn State has to be cleaned out and alot of other universities have the same problem. When a child tells you someone is touching you, TELL THE AUTHORITIES. Better to be safe then sorry.

"I'm pretty sure nothing bad is happening,"

You just said it yourself. I doubt that the accused was trying to draw attention to abuse in his interview. I had never heard this interview, but it could potentially explain a lot. Such as, for example, where victim #9 might have gotten the idea for his particular accusation and that colorful detail about shouting for help and being ignored. Did the interview to which you refer occur before or after victim #9, the 16-time visitor to that basement, made his highly suspect accusation? Never mind, I think I get it. It couldn't possibly have been before the accused mentioned the noise in the basement in an interview. So he obviously picked up his cue from the accused before coming forward.

You said it yourself, but you don't even realize it. "I'm pretty sure nothing bad is happening." So you know that young people romp and get wild and make a lot of noise when they do. And where would you prefer they do this at your house? In the basement, you say? Does that make you guilty of this stuff? Or just another ordinary parent? And if you are just another ordinary parent, why can't this accused be the same? Because he has a basement? You think that's a clue? But you just said yourself . . . .

Never mind. If you can't see it yet, there's no point in explaining it.

Oh, let him talk, he only hangs himself each time he opens his mouth. lol

Where do I sign up for this Jury?

"Where do I sign up for this Jury?"

Because you believe that every accused has a right to a fair and impartial jury?

Or because you just can't wait to trample all over the same legal rights that you yourself may need someday?

Once upon a time, sports were in schools to assure that you had a well rounded development, both mentally and physically. But now they are just a money-maker and ego building exercise, for both the college and students. I agree with you, quit pretending it is about anything except a training camp for the pros - get off campus, sign up the sponsors, and let the show go on! At least for a change, be honest.

How about getting rid of athletic scholarships while we're at it? I'm sure these schools could come up with a few students who might like to participate in sports ... just for the fun of it. Then charge spectators just enough to finance the particular sports involved. Put an end to the cash-cow sports programs that are the root of most of the problems.

And, this might put an end to the multi-million-dollar coaching jobs.

I agree with Buzz Bissinger, sports commentator and author of "Friday Night Lights." He suggests getting pro sports out of the educational system completely. Sounds extreme but think about it.

Tax payer money provides recruitment and training facilities for a private entertainment industry that is exempt from anti-trust legislation. Essentially every boy in America is recruited to play football starting in grade school.

The justification that sports bring in so much money to the school system rings hollow with me. Where's all that money going? Right into the pockets of the likes of Sandusky and his enabler Paterno. If all that revenue truly went back into the educational system there would be no need to raise real estate taxes or establish state lotteries.

The NFL, NBA and NCAA should pay stiff excise taxes that go directly back into education. And not just for more sports facilities to find prospective players and solicite a captive audience. The money should go to inner city schools, after school programs and teacher salaries.

Otherwise the sportsy boyz can get out.

It will never happen. The 1% control and profit from these school games. The 99% provide the fodder, the guts and the blood for the 1% to manipulate and profit from. All of us watch and escape our lives for a few hours. Like it or not...there is too much money to be made to stop it.

I know this has nothing to do with the horrific acts that have occurred and suffering the victims have endured.

But because of the 'cash cow' that is collegiate athletics, other programs throughout the institutions are able to provide a quality education and purchase equipment they otherwise not be able to afford as well as being able to offer more academic scholarships to students who otherwise wouldn't be able to go to college.

And then we have all the Colleges and University sports programs that have well documented other morally unacceptable and illegal acts as well. U Miami and using their dance girls, campus escorts, and others as prostitutes to make recruits happy. And the same goes on at every other major program....including BYU!

You'd be wise not spew such unsubstantiated claims. BYU suspends one of their top basketball players days before the Sweet 16 when they were a No. 1 or No. 2 seed because he violated the school's code of conduct by having sex, consensual even. The move likely cost the school millions of dollars.

The schools would be broke without the sports programs. Tuition's would need to be drastically raised and we already have entitled pukes thinking they shouldn't have to pay their student loans back. You've isolated a few instances when considering the entire breadth of collegiate sports. Sports play a valuable role in our society that you are obviously ignorant to such as developing work ethic, team work and self accountability. All things our demising society could use more of.

Ummm, Teachers are also abusers...it has nothing to do with sports. It has to do with sick, perverted, power hungry human beings.

Sports is always tagged as a team building, work ethic, self accountable exercise.. it isn't. Sports has far too much attention and students who get the scholarships generally can't even pronounce a single English sentence well. As far as team building... nope, this is where they learn to climb the sports ladder to make more than someone who discovers the cure for a disease. Anyone who thinks sports isn't expendable think again, I also think that a sports scholarship should be eliminated.

It's not God's fault. Unfortunately a lot of bad people purposely go and find a church to be in a position of power. They use the good people in the church. Most of society believes that people in the church are naturally good. This is true of most of them, but you have to keep in the back of your mind there are people that purposely use churches to take advantage of others. So always be careful, even in the churches.

I do agree with you. People in the church are mostly good. That almost allows the problem to exist. Too bad there are those willing to take advantage of really good people..

Goal2 go,

Let me explain something to you, and you may be better able to function in this world:

Universities aren't child molesters.

Sports teams arent pedophiles.

Pedophiles are pedophiles. Now repeat that 7 times, and do that 3 times a day for the next 40 years, and YOU JUST MIGHT GET IT!

Nah. don't allow him any Vaseline.

You didn't learn anything from your "experience" did you? Obviously this guy is a sick man. Your comments and the others like them only continue to propogate the problem, not add anything that helps solve it. Makes me wonder if your story isn't all just a made up set of BS.

And for those that think that the "sports programs" are to blame, get real. Sports isn't the issue, the people who are irresponsible and are not held accountable for their actions are to blame. If things went the way you all suggest, then you punish all for the sake of a few. Real bright solution....it's more BS.

Nah...he's too old and ugly...probably end up getting shanked

Considering how the rich manipulate the courts I predict that the monster will put off court for years and never spend a minute in a real prison. Things can be delayed and postponed until the outcry dies down and then he will be given a token punishment and never miss a good meal. His wife will say she did not know anything and they will accept that...then turn her loose.

No matter how much WE care...justice will be very slow...and very weak...and in the end...there will be no real justice at all. I can only hope those victims get good lawyers too. Then take all involved parties for every dime they have.

I think Sandusky might like being raped- isnt that he forced victim 10 to do? I don't think that prison rapes should be encouraged - it's just creating more gays and child rapists in our society. Sandusky should be burned alive and sent straight to hell and his wife should go to prison- she should be raped and see what it feels like to have her screams ignored.

Creating more gays??? Belle? Where did that come from? Being gay and sexually abusing someone ARE NOT one in the same. I hope that was a mistake.

Dragon lady. These people need to be killed. that is what I learned. they are unstoppable. They pray on anyone they can. They can not be cured as you might suggest with a kind heart and a pat on the back. they need to be put out of our society. I have no sympothy for any of them. I would guess there are few that make it this far into the media frenzy that are innocent. The solution is death or exile.

Can I not still have humor after what I have been through. Shame on you dragonlady. It is people like you that punish the victoms that allow this problem to grow.

'a couple of jars of vaseline' and cooperative guards probably won't be a worry. the offenders have enough cash money from various activities inside the walls that they can buy officers and others off. and don't forget the higher ups, they aren't blind to what goes on. this man will be a 'dead man walking' from the moment he is sentenced. just what he deserves.

"Makes me wonder if your story isn't all just a made up set of BS."

"These people need to be killed."

Perhaps my first expression of doubt about "pro.ten" above was even more warranted than I had at first thought.

That is one bitter person. And he is talking about his "father"? Hard to believe. Yes, I find him very hard to believe.

Which is why, at this point, I have become convinced that I do not believe him.

Is he an atheist simply spewing false witness to smear the church?

I cannot know.

I only know that I do not believe his story.

"Being gay and sexually abusing someone ARE NOT one in the same. I hope that was a mistake."

Diverdown1, you speak a lie. They are indeed one and the same.

Once you break down the wall of separation between marriage and fornication, there is nothing left but animal behavior.

And in that jungle there is no right or wrong. You don't even have a logical basis for finding fault with murder any more.

Homosexual behavior IS sexual abuse. Always has been. Always will be. Pagan "law" notwithstanding.

Sodom was destroyed by fire. It was a warning about what will happen in the future. The wise will heed and avoid that fate.

The fool will continue to rush headlong into it.

And burn with regret for eternity when it proves true, as promised.

For God cannot lie.

There is one other person who made this possible. No one mentions the DOCTOR who OBVIOUSLY prescribed the Erectile medication a man of his age must have been using. How about another doctor going on trial?

"She probably, he probably, they probably . . ."

And then you spew the filth that is in your own mind, telling the world all about the rotten neighborhood that is composed of nothing but your own thoughts and ideas.

The Football game becomes GOD in many towns, as it had in PA. Sanduskey's wife probably lives in fear, I would guess that he raped his adopted children as well. I doubt that she participated or approved but everyone had to be under his control, that's the name of the rape and perversion game. Of course they all knew and did nothing. The young ass't coach that saw an unbelievable act involving a hero had trouble telling the story. I read somewhere that one of the victims was ask if he ejaculated. With that kind of attitude to deal with, I am surprised any of those boys had the courage to come forward, now or then. One thing I feel I must point out: The victims cannot be blamed, they never should be, it is none of their fault. They experience and live with great shame for the rest of their lives. To overcome that enough to come forward is a major accomplishment. It takes a strong man/woman who has suffered this indignity to walk into a room and tell their story. They never know what kind of reception they will receive. Have some compassion for them, above all. It could be your child, look at it from that viewpoint.

The fact is that the majority of victims of childhood sexual abuse are so ashamed and embarrassed that they don't want ANYONE to know what is going on, and so they keep silent. It is not usually until later in life as adults that they realize it was in NO WAY their fault and they get the courage to tell the secret.

No- this is Sandusky's wife. Sue Paterno is the one in the swimming pool confusion.

With intimidation and coercion you can get people - especially children - to do almost anything.

I'm sure all the boys did what he said because he made it to terrible to contemplate doing otherwise. He could threaten the kid's parents, or their jobs... or you can just close your eyes and it'll all be over in a few minutes. At some point their will is gone. They are no longer trying to make it stop. They are broken.

Children are powerless against adults. They can't be expected to muster the willpower and courage to stand up to an abuser. And once the manipulation takes hold, the abuser is creating his own reality. They can't even conceive of ending it. Their life is horror, and that's just the way it is.

But once a kid sees others coming forward, telling the truth, and nothing bad happening to them... they start to realize they can do it too.

What is the matter with you Roy? We are talking about an ADULT man forcing a CHILD. And the adult in question is seen by these kids (and their parents - if they even have parents invloved, given that many of them were from the charity he founded to help under privalaged kids) as a HERO beyond reproach. Rape (oral or otherwise) is FORCED non-consentual sex - what about that do you not understand?

You sound like someone who is trying to justify what he did to a child by telling us all that "he liked it" or "he wanted it too." You do not understand the fear of ridicule that controls most kids...and adults. Threats work on kids. I am going to keep an eye on Roy Clark comments........

Roy,

Picture being in a basement, swimming area, or car. Take your pick. Now picture yourself with Sanduskey. Now picture yourself being 7. Now, picture yourself alone... just you and him. There's nobody to save you, nobody to hear a scream for help, nobody to save the day. Do you get the picture?

I cannot even begin to comprehend your thinking process.

Roy Clark, the enormity of your ignorance is astonishing. Do you live in some sort of cave where common knowledge of how pedophiles operate has not seeped through? He specifically targeted at-risk children, 'asking them questions about their lives' and learning about their home situations so that he could be sure these were kids with virtually no one they could turn to. Then he repeatedly told them he 'loved them', backing his words up with physical affection, so that when the time came to question his actions they would be confused and upset but unwilling to 'disappoint' him. It's called 'grooming the victim', you dumb box - look it up.

The real hit I get from your comment is that you're someone who himself has a thing for young boys, and wants desperately to believe it's not wrong. Yeah, that's right, the kid must have wanted it and liked it or he'd have put a stop to it right away, right?. Well, guess what? That's the argument most pedophiles use to defend their actions. You've just outed yourself, dude. Parents, lock up your SONS when Mr. Roy Clark is around.

these are just boys... They believe that scuzdusky would make it look like they were lying. He would make it hard for them in their own school... just what do you think the other boys in class would say and do to a teen that has been sodomized, or claims to have been? Think about it.

These poor kids... If I was A cop I would kick that crap out of this evil monster each and EVERY day.

here is one of the absolutely A_____Hole comments anyone can make - you OBVIOUSLY have no clue what the pressure is from a POWER-PREDATOR.

ALL I CAN ASSURE YOU OF IS THAT IT IS BEYOND YOUR DULL-MINDED SENSE OF POSSIBILITY

Roy, to blame a child for this and say he must have "wanted it" is totally irrational and despicable.

both he and his wife should be executed !!!!

Roy Clark, read your own post. You sound like a nitwit . ..."unless he wanted it"...??? What kid wants that?

How does an impoverished 10-year-old boy go to the police and tell them that a pillar of the Happy Valley community, a guy who started a charity to help underprivileged kids, is molesting and raping him? If you don't believe it---why would the police?

The weight of the evidence against Sandusky lies in the sheer number of boys who have accused him and in the eyewitness testimony of PSU employees. It looks like Sandusky felt very comfortable doing what he was doing with boys in the PSU locker room, so comfortable in fact that he was observed and reported on. Are you also calling McQueary's testimony into question? What possible reason would he have to make it up?

Agreed..... There are MORE than one guilty parties in this shiite storm! Personally I hope Sandusky Dies and soon.

I think so too. Paterno knew that Sandusky had been accused of molesting a child in 1998 and quietly let Sandusky go from the PSU football program at the height of his coaching career.

It beggars belief that someone as all powerful as Joe Paterno did not know that something that scandalous had happened in the football locker room. Paterno would have been aware of further allegations as well.

It was a cover up, plain and simple.

In an earlier article a couple of the victims said that they didn't want to go stay or to travel, but they tried to protest and their parent (or parents) just thought they were nervous about not sleeping at home -- Sandusky apparently made arrangements for his little "sleepovers" with parents who were flattered on behalf of their kids, then the kid finds out and doesn't want to make waves/seem ungrateful/disappoint their mom or dad. Sandusky would charm these people, then abuse their kids and intimidate them into silence using shame -- classic pedophile -- he is a monster of the lowest order

Allycat659: You say you don't know anyone who has been sexually abused, which is hard to understand in itself as 1-out of-3 people in the USA have been abused in some form. More women than men have been assaulted. Without you realizing it, possibly several people that you know well have been either molested, raped or a victim of incest sometime in their younger lives.

You ask why these children returned to his attention: love and acceptance is a key part. This guy has befriended these kids from a young age and "groomed" them for 1-2-3 years, so they trust and believe in him. They truly feel loved and accepted (maybe for the 1st time in their lives). When this coach/father figure starts to cross boundaries, there is some confusion in the mind of the child. And then after the abuse starts (habitual), they can't talk to anyone about it as they believe "this is my fault and I'll get into trouble." Mind you, they are still 12-14 years old. Deep down they know what's happening is wrong, but they don't realize they ARE NOT TO BE BLAMED.

I was raped when I was younger by the man I used to babysit for. I was so naive, that when he was raping me he said he was 'making love' and then, how much he cared for me and thought of me as a daughter. Afterwards, he even told me I was going to bleed a little and probably hurt tomorrow...so after the rape, he became my counselor - if you will, he became my confidant. It's twisted, I know! but young kids are impresionable and want to be loved and accepted. These abusers are MASTERS of the twisted game and know how to play it.

It's the shame factor. They didn't tell because they didn't want to be labelled "liars" or "gay". They didn't want to be questioned about why they didn't fight him off or why they continued to be around him after the warning signs. But the horrible thing about sexual abuse is the victim doesn't expect the abuser, usually a person they respect or admire, to "go there" and they do. And when they do the victim is too ashamed, too busy beating themselves up, they are vulnerable to any further advances the abuser makes. They are made (by the abuser) a willing participant in their own victimization. It's a horrible but effective manipulation of immature minds.

Unfortunately, that's not saying much for those parents. If a child says, "Momma, Daddy, please, I DON'T WANT to go!!!" Shouldn't they have backed off and started asking the child questions? Makes me sick to my stomach that they were so stupid that they didn't become suspicious of his wanting to be around THEIR child so much. Yuck.

Victims of abuse are "drawn" to their abusers. I know it's a sick thing but if you look it up it's true. For me it was to make sure that no one knew that my uncle was abusing me but as I got older and I read up on it it's a very common thing for the abused to "protect" the abuser. If people find out that he's an abuser then they also find out that you were abused and then you have to deal with your shame. It's backwards I know but it's a sickness that affects abused kids on some many different levels and unless you have been abused.....you will NEVER understand.

You do know someone I am sure, they just haven't informed you yet. You ask why the child "allows" the abuse to continue. I will give you a few reasons to consider: 1) the child is scared and very confused- it is usually a trusted family member who is doing this to them, 2)the child does not have the language skills to accurately explain what happened- it is embarrassing and shameful to the kid, 3) the child is taught to "keep the peace",4) the kid is told it is their "special secret",5)the kid hears adult conversations that include statements like,"if anyone ever touched me little girl I would KILL them!!"- so the child remains quiet because she fears her Daddy going to jail,6) the abuser "suggests" that you are "chosen" and that if you were to tell, he would have to "choose" a friend of yours, and the real sad part is that once it has happened the first time, the child can't tell because, "who would believe you?? I'm so-and-so (fill in the blank) and if you say anything they won't believe you because obviously, you like it or why did you (A CHILD!!!) let me do it to you??" The shame is overwhelming. I was molested by my sister's husband before they married (I was 9 years old) I begged her not to marry him but couldn't tell her why because she seemed so happy and in love. It continued till I was about 16 years old. I had tons of therapy and finally at age 40 I told my parents and my sister what had happened to me. The only one shocked was my Dad. My sister knew about other incidences with her husband and my mother knew as well. He was a coach/teacher at the local high school. He received plaques and honors when he retired. She couldn't leave him because where would she have gone with 3 kids?? (This is what she told me)-I could go on and on but I will just say, you do know people who have been molested/raped/abused...you know me now. I am now 59 and I cry for the little girl I failed to protect and for the victims in this case and all the others around this sick world.

Alleycat: You do personally know people who've been molested and abused by people they know. You just don't know that you know them, because they're too ashamed to tell you.

Current child molestation statistics go like this: Roughly 33% of girls and 14% of boys are molested before the age of 18, according to the U.S. Justice Department. Roughly 1/3 involved children under the age of 12. In most cases, however, child molestation goes unreported - in fact, estimates are that only 35% of sexual abuse is reported. Kids can be frightened, confused or embarrassed, and many times will never tell anyone at all.

I can understand a child being in a position the first time to be molested 'outside' of their home and if it is within the home because the child doesn't have anywhere else to go; however, I don't understand how a kid like victim #9 can be approached and molested up to 16 times. It wasn't as if Sandusky was an uncle or close relative. I would have been screaming bloody murder the first time he tried to put a hand on me. It makes me wonder about a childs parents and the openess of that communication or was there any communication at all with the childs mom (guessing single parent?). Bottom line Sandusky should be beat like a pinata by the victims.

Oh my gosh - my stomach is in a HUGE knot right now after reading all of your responses! First of all, thank you all so much for the EYE OPENING (albeit horrific...) insight. I'm sure you're all correct - there are probably more than one person I know who've been molested by a family member or someone they knew but it's not like they'd say "hey, I'm Susie and I was molested by my father!". So, I will restate that nobody I know has TOLD me about any abuse by family/friends. It's really gut wrenching to read what some of you have gone through - my heart is so sad that there are SO many people out there who have been molested and abused, and usually by people you know and trust. How incredibly confusing and scary that must have been...I am truly sorry for all of you and boy do I feel blessed beyond belief that I never had to live through anything like this. Thanks again for helping me understand...and like I said earlier, I'd love it if Sandusky and his wife would just spare us all and take a cue from Thelma and Louise...

I can understand a child being in a position the first time to be molested 'outside' of their home and if it is within the home because the child doesn't have anywhere else to go; however, I don't understand how a kid like victim #9 can be approached and molested up to 16 times. It wasn't as if Sandusky was an uncle or close relative. I would have been screaming bloody murder the first time he tried to put a hand on me. It makes me wonder about a childs parents and the openess of that communication or was there any communication at all with the childs mom (guessing single parent?).

Moscanoch, first, the kids he targeted and groomed were 'at-risk' kids, which means they came from impoverished, single parent homes. Sandusky gave the kids money and gifts, took them on trips, and gave them access to the PSU football program. That was huge for those boys and wasn't easily replaced in their lives. They probably didn't understand what an adult male was doing, touching them. They might not have understood at first that it's wrong. They might have been embarrassed or afraid to tell. All they knew is that they felt ashamed and apprehensive. Children think and act very differently from the way an adult would. It's important not to blame the victims for what happened to them.

TYPICAL male rationale! This type of crime has been going on since the dawn of mankind........

Most men are simply in deep denial, which is why this continues on and on. Cowards LOVE to

pick on the weak.

According to the link provided in the article, the boy was 11 or 12 at the time of the rape. Your post implies that if he was 16 and the rape was "successful" a few times, that the boy may have "liked" it. I don't care if the victim was willing and was 16, it's still rape.

Daniel from LB: Look at physical abuse from an adult to an adult...sometimes the abuse goes on for years before the person being abused fights back. There is something within some people that even thought they hate the situation they are in, they are not sure how to get out of it...and I doubt that anyone who is physically, emotionally or sexually abused "likes it" on any level!

Daniel, you need to get a clue how to interpret behavior. Saying someone likes something as devastating as rape is almost as damaging.

Daniel, do you really think a child, even a teenager, would "like" being raped by a 60 year old man? Give me a break. It doesn't matter how old he was (I believe the article said he was around 12)... he was still UNDERAGE and what Sandusky did was ILLEGAL!

seriously ... there should be no doubt in any rational person's mind that this person is one sick individual regardless of the age or the gender of the child ... really ppl....i think if your defending this person obviously you more than likely have the same sickness ... just saying

I didnt make it to the bathroom. I blew chunks all over the computer screen

My sympathies to both all american and JG, I did the same thing after reading this article.

Marie, my deepest sympathy to you. You were extremely brave to speak out. It is so unfortunate that the victims of Sandusky and the creep at Syracuse did not do so at the time. This stories just keep getting worse. How in the world do these men justify their horrible acts in their minds? How do they sleep at night? How do their wives continue to live under the same roof? I know, some will say the wives are victims, too. But do they not have any feelings for the children who are innocent victims? OR, do they enjoy their lavish life style (in the case of the coaches' wives) and/or position in the community (coaches' and minister's wife) so much that they lose their sense of decency?

And isn't it strange that as a victim, you feel you can not tell anyone. I still know victims of my father, and they will not tell me anything except that they feel shame. The victims feel shame, and the only thing the aggressor feels is sorry for getting caught.

So predictable. Shame on his wife too. Double cell-mate's? ICK.

I'm not saying he didn't do anything to any of these kids.But,it all seems suspicious to me that all of a sudden you have lawsuits out the ying yang now.It kind of reminds me of the Michael Jackson case.I'm looking now at how all these accusers are going to show the proof and evidence of these alleged abuses.Also why none of these previous investigations ever came up with anything concrete to make the allegations become criminal charges.The other thing everyone should think about is just because someone is accused and arrested does not make them guilty.I believe that all of the victims and Sandusky should take a lie detector test.Because the FBI claims that it is now over 95% accurate.If everyone is telling the truth then they all should have no problem about submitting to one.Someone is lying so let's find out who is telling the truth here.At this point I will not say Sandusky or the accusers are telling the truth.I need proof and evidence.Not just what someone says.Because if it was that easy to incriminate someone than we would have more people in prison then we have on the streets.

Ron, this didn't start out as "lawsuits." It started out as a criminal indictment. EIGHT people (yes, EIGHT) were alleged victims of abuse by this man. Since then, several more have come forward, bringing the total to now 10 or 11. Do you really think they are all just collaborating together against this poor elderly man for no reason, other than a possible payout? Why are you so quick to dismiss the claims of 11 people, but want to believe the guy who admitted to (and was caught) showering naked (among other inappropriate things) with young boys?

I have been the victim of screams of abuse that went ignored by someone in the home, it was and is a horrible feeling! I pray these men recieve justice, if not fully here, when this man meets his maker!

I feel sorry for the innocents. We need to watch very close where are our kids, because if you don't care no body will.

Why is that children are afraid to ask for help from their parents? Can anyone answer that? This story could have ended long ago if children are told it is ok to talk about it. Rather than ingore sex talk parents need to inform children there are sick people that may make advances and please tell us so we can protect you and others.

"It started out as a criminal indictment. EIGHT people"

No, it didn't. When I first heard this story, I was furious with that man and wanted him put away for the rest of his life. What I heard in the news was that another coach had "seen" him sodomizing a boy in the shower.

But that other coach has had his testimony discredited. He said he went to the police. The police say he did not.

He said he "saw" a certain act. Another witness now says that when that coach first reported the event he now says he "saw" a sexual act, he was asked point blank, "did you see something sexual" and McQueary's answer was "No." Thus, McQueary evidently started all this whole thing, and everyone is taking their queue from his original testimony, which, evidently, is that he "heard" something suspicious, but did not "see" anything. And then "he made sure it stopped."

But we don't know what that "it" is now. It could have been horseplay. We don't know. And all these other accusers could have jumped on the bandwagon after learning that there was a Grand Jury investigation. Surely the Grand Jury went out looking for evidence. Is it at all possible, people -- I mean, come on! Use your heads! -- that the Grand Jury's search for witnesses brought gold-diggers out of the woodwork to "confirm" the rumors that must have been flying ever since McQueary first cried "rape"? But when pressed, he backed off and said that he had not actually seen anything sexual.

Isn't it at lease POSSIBLE that the school administrators and other coaches simply gave the accused the benefit of the doubt? Isn't it at least POSSBILE that this is a case of McQueary starting the whole thing snowballing by crying "foul" over something HE DID NOT ACTUALLY SEE HAPPENING?

Sure, if I had testimony that someone SAW the accused doing what McQueary first said he SAW, I would be in agreement that the accused should be locked up and the key thrown away. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT WE HAVE HERE, PEOPLE!

I was wrong to have assumed that the first thing I heard was the final say on the matter.

Henceforth, I am going to withhold judgment until more facts come out UNDER PUBLIC SCRUTINY.

I am beginning to wonder if the accused might not be innocent after all. Yes, even with so many pointing fingers, yes.

No one will ever find out. Hull him out then let him sit in a cell for a month or two to where there will be no evidence of the wollowing. He could cry all he wants but if there is no proof then nothing can be done. Im sure if the rape of these boys can be covered up for such a long time a prison rape will never surface.

you need to read carefully the sick-o wants prison time. having his self alone in prison will be better ...and hand him a knife and save use the trouble

I just cant wait for the others to show up that he tried it once and punched him in the face! They are probably to ashamed to come forward. There has to be some!!