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Tulsa County Jail
Alisha Greta Halfmoon is accused of making meth inside an Oklahoma Wal-Mart.
TULSA – Tulsa police arrested a 45-year-old woman they said mixed chemicals together to make methamphetamine inside a Wal-Mart store.
“She didn’t have the money to make the purchases of the chemicals that were needed so she was taking what was needed in the bottle,” Tulsa Police Officer David Shelby told FOX23.com.
Police said the suspect, Elizabeth Alisha Greta Halfmoon, had been in the store since noon on Thursday, taking chemicals from bottles and mixing them in order to make meth. She had been in the store for six hours, according to police.
Security officials called police once they spotted Halfmoon acting suspiciously.
Shelby said it was the first time he had seen anyone actually attempt to mix and make the drug in a store.
“When firefighters were on the scene she made statements to them that is what she was doing, she was attempting to obtain these chemicals and was in the process of trying to manufacture meth. However, she said she was not very good at it,” Shelby told the TV station.
One police officer received minor injuries when the chemicals in the bottle burned his hand. Nobody else was injured.
Shoppers expressed shock and outrage at the incident.
“Something could have happened, something could have blown up in there,” shopper Jonathan Tary told a television reporter.
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Yikes! I thought the demographics in our local Wal-Mart were bad...
To paraphrase a sage: "Hide your children, Hide your wife!"
I love stupid human tricks. Nothing like a dumb criminal to lighten the daily news cycle :)
...and why is this News if I may ask?
South of the Mississippi, everybody doing meth say they buy it at Walmart....dont they cook that stuff like in the fitting rooms or something?
Ya ever try to get in there to see if something fit, and a bum tell you to try the next one and all of em are occupied? Whatyou think is happening in there fellows? Some walmarts will even have you try your clothes in the bathrooms...so as not to dsrupt "business"...
South of the Mississippi???
Fish on Meth...huh, no kidding.. LOL!!!
Not all of the wal - marts are bad. The one i go to is pretty nice. It's clean , well set up, and the customers that go there are mostly decent hard working people. There has never been an incident like this one at our local wal mart(there are a few wal marts in our area) There are certain things that i would not purchase there because of lack of quality on some of the things, but i often go there for little things like snacks for the kids, socks, PJ's for the kids, toiletries, and items for the home.
psssst.. aurora... bigots nearby..ssshhhhh
Mark,
I really don't care about the bigots nearby. It seems like quite a few of the comments on here are quite ignorant, but thanks for the tip:)
"South of the Mississippi,"
The Mississippi runs north-south. . . .
Please people you need to check this out. google people of walmart and there is a site that is just hilarious! Some of it makes you want to throw bleach in your eyes though lol!
"South of the Mississippi" ... the Gulf of Mexico?
Refer to Post #1.3
That must be one nasty drug, as I hear and see such terrible stories about people that are addicts to meth. They are no longer human and would sell their Grandma. So very sad and desperate.
I guess I'm ignorant. I thought you had to cook meth?
rrobeson, she was headed to the camping section next to use the portable stoves!
Shoppers expressed shock and outrage at the incident.
“Something could have happened, something could have blown up in there,” shopper Jonathan Tary told a television reporter.
He's right! Something did happen! People went into indignant hysterics over the isolated, erratic behavior of a troubled woman.
Yep, like you could actually make meth walking around in a WalMart. This is a story meant to propagate public fear of drugs. It's drug war propaganda at it's worse.
And the lemmings lap it up like candy.
This kinda demographic is one of the many reasons why i rather slit my own throat than walk into a walmart.
And the Darwin award goes to: Elizabeth Alisha Greta Halfmoon!
... I wonder if that is her real name?
I hope someone did sneak a good pic of her mixing up chemicals in that bottle for POW-M. That would be a nice change from the standard "weirdly dressed people" pics they usually have on that site.
Rroberson, I don't know much about it but I think mixing two or chemicals in this meth process does the cooking itself. I read somehwhere a while back that people "cooked" in their cars using a two liter bottle.......
I think the proper terms are "West of the Mississippi" and "South of the Mason Dixon"
jim-350736 said
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Yep, like you could actually make meth walking around in a WalMart. This is a story meant to propagate public fear of drugs. It's drug war propaganda at it's worse.
And the lemmings lap it up like candy.
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Meth is a drug that all should fear not sure what kind of genius would minimize it's danger. But given that you do not understand that meth can be made in a plastic bottle of almost any size and is often carried around in vehicles so as to spread out the fumes over a larger area and reduce the chance of the tell tale smell causing the lab from being discovered.I would have to say you certainly do not qualify as a genius and in fact something far less than. Fight the war against drugs all you want but never minimize the danger of meth to both the user and all of society around them it has ruined more lives than any other drug in history and will continue to do so aslong as there are ignorant people minimizing it's effects on the user,ease of access and the damage it causes to society.
well it is quite apparent this woman needs some medical help...bless her heart. yes what she did was totally wrong, but no worse than drinking and getting behind the wheel of an automobile....
No it can't. The prosess for manufacturing Meth is much more complicated than gathering a few bits in a plastic bottle.
I am not minimizing the damage the drug does to abusers. I am pointing out that the article, as presented, is pure hyperbole meant specifically to incite fear and disgust of their fellow, misguided and in need of help brethren.
It is an obvious ploy to heap more imminent danger into the event than actually existed. In Britain, they would say the story was "sexed up abit". It is not a truthful depiction of how meth is manufactured because you cannot get one of the main ingredients without asking a pharmacist for it and have a good reason for asking. You can't just "go pick it up". There is also a "cooking" process that takes a lot of time and has to be very accurately done.
This story, as I said, had little to do with reality and all to do with guiding negative public perception. And it stinks more than meth addiction ever will. Just tell the truth, it's bad enough.
Could the author have found a more lame comment to put in the article? Something did happen. And nothing blew up. Woulda, shoulda, coulda doesn't change the fact that it didn't.
I haven't seen a problem at our Walmart but maybe that's because I live NORTH of the Mississippi lmao
shake and bake...
THe police in my state show the new employees at the state DCS how meth is made. Yes you can make it in a moving car or plastic bottles.
JIM, this is from wiki:
In recent years, reports of a simplified "Shake 'n Bake" synthesis have surfaced. The method is suitable for such small batches that pseudoephedrine restrictions are less effective, it uses chemicals that are easier to obtain (though no less dangerous than traditional methods), and it is so easy to carry out that some addicts have made the drug while driving. Producing methamphetamine in this fashion can be extremely dangerous and has been linked to several fatalities
Not that looks are everything but if you see her face try to picture her brain looking just as bad. its not hard to see when someone is using meth frequently because it is devestating to the entire body. good luck to all of you that like the stuff, sobriety sucks but so does stupidity. just ask a long time user.
the tip off was... she didn't smell like cat piss... that's highly suspect...at wal-mart...
jim-350736, your ignorance is showing. Google is your friend:
The newest way to make meth is called the Shake n’ Bake or One-pot method and poses a new danger to communities.
New on the scene is the easiest and possibly most dangerous way of making meth. Using the one-pot method means that meth cooks can make meth in one sealed container which is generally flipped upside-down to cause the reaction needed to turn several toxic ingredients into meth. This method generally produces meth in smaller quantity, but doesn’t make it any less dangerous.
The chemical reaction going on inside the container (which can be anything from a Coleman fuel can to a soda bottle) causes an extremely high amount of pressure to build up within the container after being shaken; this method can cause a pretty large explosion. In fact, just the other day, a man died from making meth this way.
The biggest danger in relation to this method is the fact that it is fast and portable. So portable in fact, that it is most common to find people using this method to make meth in their car. They generally drive around while the meth is being made to release the fumes and when the process is over, some 40 minutes later, they simply chuck the used container filled with toxic chemical residue out of the window. Aside from the environmental impact this has, it also poses a hazard to children that naturally want to explore and pick up the things they find.
Just wondering why it took 6 hours to figure out what this lady was doing.
God you people make me sick. Try just an ounce of critical thinking for once.
EVEN with the "Shake and bake" method, you CANNOT simply walk around and get the main ingredients at a WalMart. They are now much better controlled and kept BEHIND the counter.
Stop believing the "immanent doom" hawkers. There was no risk of explosion. There was no risk of ACTUAL meth being made INSIDE the Walmart.
This article is misleading you into a palatable state of unjustified panic. It is the main MO of the drug war liars. It is the main reason for the overt militarization of the police. It is the main reason you are losing your civil liberties.
Wake up people and stop simply accepting the propaganda and rhetoric. Stop being convinced that people with medical and health issues are monstrous demons ready to blow you up in WalMart.
This is just Refer Madness of the new millennium. Wake up.
This woman is a HUMAN BEING in need of help. She is not the inhuman enemy of the drug wars. This type of "news" is presented to make you think of these poor people as inhuman and therefore expendable without conscience.
THAT is the real crime here.
Sigh. Now they are out to get your kids. Sad, just sad. Could you possible exaggerate any further? They probably hate puppies too.
jim-350736
More ignorance spouted. There is only ONE INGREDIENT not available in Wal-Mart. Everything else necessary is in common household products.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32542373/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/new-meth-formula-avoids-anti-drug-laws/
http://www.buzzfeed.com/peggy/shake-and-bake-meth
Why would you wish to spread such misinformation? You're either uneducated or a liar.
I have read about them mixing meth in the big soda bottles & hiding it in the sun & letting the sun cook it. I don't know if it's true. I've never even seen any except on tv.
Hey jim359736
I have an idea I think you'll like;
Legalize the purchase and possession of all the ingredients needed to make meth. Sell it at cost, similar to prescription marijuana.
This would ensure that no one's constitutional rights are violated.
That way they can "cook" it at home with no fear of the law. Explosion? Less of a problem. OD? No problem at all because EMT services are not available due to waiver signed at time of purchase. (" Manufacture & Use at Your Own Risk ") but you will be liable for collateral damages in the case of fire/explosion. Fair enough?
There. Problem? Solved.
How's that work for ya?
Good observance, mark. Makes you wonder how many of his other "facts" are firmly rooted in this world.
There a lot of comments here by apparent meth experts, explaining what could or could not be done, and why this story is an exaggeration or even an outright lie.
I know absolutely nothing about the manufacture of the drug. All I know is that the police saw fit to arrest her, and that her picture certainly looks like the one in the Urban Dictionary next to the phrase, meth-addict.
I'm coming more and more to lokay5's opinion. Perhaps it is time to legalize it. Let the fools who use it die young and toothless, and stop creating price-supports for drug cartels.
Nobody said anything for six hours because they probably thought she was setting up a meth sample station. Ah Walmart..
It's bad, and I do not understand anyone willing to put that in their body. They know what is in it; just drink a gallon of drain cleaner and make it faster.
As far as sad goes... I feel for the families affected by a member using, but usually not the user. They made a choice. I have a friend that spent 7 years in prison for meth, and she says it was her choice to use and she screwed up.
Well, to be human is to screw up, and young adults and adolescents are often rash in their choices. So I have some sympathy for somebody who took that root at 18 and was never able to change direction. The 45-year-old woman featured in the article: in her photo she looks at least 55, and her eyes look older yet. I wonder what she looked like at 18.
Hope your friend stayed clean, Rene.
Tim, Your incessant name calling has just got your posts marked as inflammatory and do not deserve a response.
When you learn to discuss like an adult, I'll treat you as one.
And, to all the rest of you "kill em now they aren't human" folks, just try to remember, "for the grace of God go I".
I'm done.
No jim you're not done untill you kiss my (_!_) !
Not trying to be stupid, but don't Walmart have cameras or aren't other customers walking around and see this woman mixing stuff up and couldn't they smell the chemicals being opened etc. Honestly, I know I have allergies and sinus problem, I currently have a cold, but I can smell stuff too. I think I would know something is wrong if I smelled chemicals in the area, I would report it to a worker there.
People of Wal-mart.
What was the bigger surprise: that this happened at a Wal-mart or that a Wal-mart patron wasn't very good at it?
I'm suprised they gave us a photo of the white woman.
Hey Bristol banger, she used to be black but she did so much meth it bleached all the color out of her!
Wait, that means Michael Jackson was a meth head!
The biggest surprise was that it didn't happen in Florida.. then again, I guess it wasn't quite the "dumb redneck" a story needs to be Florida-worthy. I love that place.. the more north you go, the more south it gets.
We needs protekshun from dees meth freekz, we needs the TSA at the doors instead of greeterz to protek us. Call the airport Martha!!! And tell me jus wut is the dam gummint going to do about my safety now???
DrewFromSC
"...dumb redneck" is redundant.
another reason to stay as far away from Wal-Mart a possible.
Damn straight Ruken!
Another druggie that should be in prison at least. Could have been K-Mart or any of 100 other stores, just a deranged individual that should be eliminated.
No sir, this has Walmart shopper written all over it
that is offensive to us deranged individuals we take offense to your comment and comparison to this idiot.
@Al718. thank you, you boiled the whole comments section down to one concise hysterical sentence.
"individual that should be eliminated" You know what is worse? Old stupid people! They should be eliminated first! So many Americans talk like they would fit right in with the Nazi Party. I would bet you consider yourself a "Tea Party Patriot" don't you you old misearble jerk.
How are we gonna do this? There has to be a cutoff age, and I suppose an IQ test.
I always said wallie world is the place to go to buy tools, and machines that break down because they are all imports, and now the new trend for the wallie world trekkies is to make your meth, hooch, marijuana right there in the store. Wow, mixing chemicals for six hours unbothered. Where was store security for 6 hours? They finally got suspicious after she was acting unusual. How many walmartians would have been hurt had she dropped her product, or accidently dropped some on someone. Wow, meth in a store. Well wallieworld will benefit from this one way or another...........................................................
Carl, wal -mart is not the only store in the U.S that sells things made in other countries, and not every wal- mart allows someone to try to create their own meth lab on site. I'm not saying that wal mart is the best in the world, and i agree with you as far as quite a few of the items sold there being of low quality, but to say that every wallie world is bad is untrue, some have good management and security and some don't. some are good clean , well set up stores and others are not.
I have two within 5 miles of me, while one is a little on the dirty side the other is beautiful, clean and no meth labs anywhere!!
I hate it when people pick on Wal-Mart, the reason low budget people shop there is because it has low prices. Now if I am going to save $20.00 on average per shopping spree and I shop there almost weekly, you better damn well know I am not embarassed to admit I shop at wally-world!!! A $100.00 a month savings is $100.00 more I can spend on my meth that someone is "cooking" correctly!!
((adding the lawyers disclaimer the part about doing drugs was intended as a joke... the savings of $100.00 was not))
youarea- if they treated their employees halfway decent, I wouldn't mind them so much. Between my personal experience there, and articles I've read about the corporation since then, I try to avoid wallyworld as much as possible.
Inmissouri.........well then you better not shop anywhere jsut about all the big stores are treating employees wrong and their morals are shot to @!$%#.
I am sorry you feel that way, but I do understand. I boycott Target for their business ethics too!
i presume you all did not know that the walmart people that devised this neo-richie concept of all of us work for ?$10.00 an hour were the start of this idiocy of our commander in shift called (socialism) get real-wake up and smell waqlmart's coffee!! q as in question of the origin of this let us determin the price for all houshers/ losers/ and non- capitalist that thought they had the world by the a-hole when now you leftys can understand that this company can drag u around with pricing...raising it like the oil companies and dropping it like a bad habit....stand up for america...or stay on the porch where this concept came from....big dawgs!! now you all know that the the left is completely out to lunch so stop watching american idle as what's his name beat you to your own game!! sam what?? please vote with an open mind and get this country back from not the left but maybe the tea party-libertarian-third party or i will vote for trump if you don't!!
Wow.
some pretty interesting rants going on here. Wal-Mart, everywhere I have been, which, admittedly, is only in the western half of the US for the last 20 years, has always been clean and neat, with friendly staff. Well stocked stores with plenty of decent goods. Since it is the only decent store for about 25 miles, I guess I will continue shopping there.
I've seen Walmarts in San Diego, Central NY, and New Hampshire - Nothing like the bad ones people are describing. All clean normal stores.
And props to youareabully. I do some of my grocery shopping at Walmart too because the prices are low. When you don't earn much, you can't spend much. As much as I'd like them to treat employees better etc, I'd also like to have food. Sorry, but food wins. E.g. I could buy Freihofers wheat bread for $1.48 or I can buy it at Price Chopper for $3. 2 loaves a week x 52 weeks a year x 1.52 saved per loaf = 158.08 saved a year, and that's just one shopping item. I don't think the gas discount benefits from Price Chopper fully offset the $158, and certainly not the remainder I save on other groceries (e.g. $.50/6 oz Yoplait yogurt vs $.79/6 oz Yoplait yogurt... etc. etc.) If places that treated people better could compete with the prices, then I'd be happy to support them instead. But until I have a larger income, I do as needs must.
Make Marijuana? Sorry, but that's just ignorant and an example of why this story is just propaganda. Does everyone do their own research anymore? No. They just trust whatever main-stream media poops out for them next.
Agreed Tom. Pure propaganda.
What is most frightening about this story is the comments. I have never seen so many ways to insult and infer that certain groups are inhuman and not deserving of compassion, fairness, or even truthfulness.
Drug users, Walmart employees and customers, Floridians, and the elderly, all inhuman scum that should be eliminated.
It's sad is what it is, just sad.
Carl - just exactly how the hell do you justify dragging Trekkies into this? Wow.
Can't you just buy meth at Wal-Mart? Might be behind the pharmacy counter.
Nah, but you can sure buy it in the parking lot. I think they have a kiosk.
Coming to your local Wal-Mart. Due to the decline of 35mm film, select photo labs will soon be converted into meth labs.*
*Eligible stores must be within .5mi radius of:
Nascar track, Trailer Park or an Agricultural zone, the residence of Eddie Van Halen, Lindsay Lohan, or former cast of "Full House", or anywhere "South of the Mississippi" (according to DocHolliday-2979123 Above, LOL)
lol lol Megi, Yash and Doug
LMAO good comments all
@ Megidolaon.. should be able too, this entire war on drugs is an abysmal failure, People wanna do w/e kind of drug, i say go for it, should be able to buy it otc. Imagine the tax revenue
Thanks Yashimac !
Thanks Doug in MN!
You both "crack"ed me up!
What alerted security first.....the tube top in winter, or the spandex and flip flops????????
"Hazmat cleanup on aisle four. Hazmat to aisle four please."
"Free sample?"
lol
It was bound to happen sooner or later. Wal Mart draws such an entertaining clientele.
This doesn't surprise me.
Let KIRA handle the situation.
With a name like "Halfmoon", I bet she was exposing some serious "crack" also.
Excuse me Sirafalot, Halfmoon is a native american name. If it is her real name that is. As in making meth , in groups I go to to learn , how to spot or watch what goes on. These meth people have figured out how to make meth in 20oz. bottles with no long time cooking. Surprizing thing is, they have the genius brain that can be chemist. If they don't they learn quickly. In other words, if they are acting confused, not thinking straight, they are in craving, this drug kills even with withdraw. Withdraw is very painful, also. No I don't do it. I study, ask questions, examine. Most meth users know the dangers, they don't care, most are death wish already. Also half are from families who have money, jobs, own houses. In the end they end up with nothing. Short list of why they started.
1. marijuana, smoked so much it didn't help them anymore. Medical or not, after a while it takes more. Meth it takes just one hit, cost is less.
2. It seems quite a few were homeless first, no where to go, sleeping in the cold and hungry. Meth makes you not feel anything!! Not even the ones that they love most gets considered. So many have came out of rehab, to relaps, why because they had no where to go but the streets. Sure a person can get foodstamps, but no stove, no meal, and food stamps doesn't give you a bed.
3. Some are right out of foster care. No more meds, no money, no family. The sec. they turn 18, thats all it wrote. The state providers have seperated the bond with the family, the child has no where to go but the streets. No more medical , nothing. (yes, some do get took away no abuse going on) Most foster children are drugged to dull and stupefy the children to forget the parents, which causes addiction. Thus turning them into throw away children.
4.Some said," I went to the physician, they ran test after test, I was in pain!! They would not help me. A friend offered. Now they know I was in pain, for they found what was wrong. 3 yrs. of testing, if they would have looked where I was telling them the pain was... To late now, I can't quit, I don't want to ever feel that pain again. (this is exactly what he said) Physicians are afraid to give meds. So the pateint thinks they don't care.
There are more reasons to long of a list. But I have heard these main ones more than I can count. Makes it sound appealing of course! Temptation comes in many forms! When some get knocked down they grasp, sometimes it is the wrong hand to grasp. When a physician turn away the one begging for help and relief? This story made me very angery indeed!
Um. Apparently walmart really does have everything, including the diseases that go with it. Nice.
Now, I will NEVER take my kids in there again.
I'm sure you'll be missed.
Im sure not.
Unfortunately , thanks to people who are so proud of the fact they know enough math to calculate they save $100 a month shopping at Walmart, soon you will have no other choice but to shop there. They may know the basics of multiplication but are so short sighted and selfish that all that matters is $100 worth of cheap crap, who cares about the long term cost to society. Only the truly ignorant can defend the existence of Walmart.
Carl...How does one "make" marijuana in a store? Think before you write.
Who knows?
Maybe in a story later this week someone will be planting some weeds in the Wal-Mart greenhouse.
Place-mats imported from Mexico?
Plush animals in the toy department from the same place?
Hash brownies anyone?
Ha, ha, ha, make! Maybe he meant process?
Good question. Some of the respondents here seem to have about the same mental development as someone who would attempt to whip up a batch of meth in a WalMart.
case in point from up-thread - "South of the Mississippi"
I used to work at a Kmart as a kid, and one day the manager shut down the Garden Center for some reason.
Later I find out that someone had a few illegal plants growing back behind the fertilizer stacks.
So, it's not that far fetched. ;) - oh and this was in Upper michigan.
Having a meth lab blow up isn't quite the same as a few pot plants growing out back.
Stacey-59602
WHAT? talking about exploiting figuratively, you jumped all up and down on it. If you want specifics, go to a local dispensary. It was a reference to the fact that she had all the time in the world to make her shake and bake. So, duh in essence, she could have (make it easy for you-"grown" marijuana in the store). Hey, let's all be Stacey today and criticize everything we don't comprehend. I'll go first--Stacey, what a baffoon. Intelligence sticks to you like water on a piece of tape. If you're confused, water won't stick to tape. So that makes you unintelligent............Thank you very much
Carl, just hang it up. You said something stupid and got called on it.
Your rant went from ridiculous to childish.
Just stop.
The Wal-Mart Christmas carol: Oh little town of Meth-lehem.
"My heart is racing now pa rump pa pum pum. I speed my ass off now pa rumpa pump pum. My hair is crawling round pa rumpa pum pum, rumpa pum pum, rumpa pum pum. Glass pipes are pretty rumpa pum pum, rumpa pum pum. I bring thee 8 ball packed pa rumpa pum pum......In Wal Mart smoking crack pa rumpa pum pum...... All see my rotting gums pa rumpa pum pum...."
thanks war on drugs, i feel so much safer.
Would you rather she just be allowed to continue? Not like you couldn't tell she was a meth head. Drugs do no harm. Just ask her. She was only mixing up a batch to bring to the Occupy Tulsa event.
If the drug were legal this woman would not be trying to produce it in a Walmart genius. She would probably be dead or dying somewhere a victim of cheap meth brought on by the invisble hand of Adam Smith in conjunction with cheap manufacturing materials and a strong market for the drug. Which is fine because that is her choice. Don't you get it the war on drugs produces this type of behavior and even if it did not it certainly isn't winning the war ie this story! Then again if you think the OWS movement is just a bunch of drug addicts then you must watch Fox news and if you watch (and believe) Fox news then you are incapable or critical thought so I have no I dea why I am trying to make a logical argument to someone who will never have the hope of understanding it. Godd luck with the whole fascist thing it looks like you guys might win if the President signs this new defense appropriations bill into law!
"The war on drugs produces this type of behavior".
No, people who use drugs (whether legal or illegal) produce this type of behavior.
The war on drugs artificially boosts the price so high this type of behavior is inevitable. Don't you get it? There will always be a segment of the population that does these drugs and destroy themselves. There is nothing whatsoever that can be done to eliminate this population. The drug should be made cheap or free so they can go about destroying themselves and not do things like this that has the capability of destroying others with them. She wouldn't be doing something as desperate as this if she had another way of obtaining it without having to resort to this behavior. Get it now?
Want a new world order? Join KIRA! All the criminals will be erased.
yeah no kidding huh? war on drugs has been an abysmal failure,
Tanzalone, I do not like to support drug users with my money or my time. Life is hard enough without having to support drop outs. To be fair, let them do what they want, but lets put them into a big area...say Utah, once they get in, then they can do all the dope they want. But if they try to get out, shoot them. If they get sick, let them deal with it themselves. If they get hungry, again, not my problem.
Nope, I am all for freedom to do dope, JUST DON'T ask me to pay for it. There are 7 billion people on the Earth and lots of them want to do their own thing. Great UP TO THE POINT it causes me problems. When that happens, then I say I will provide a solution. And like the way the Chinese took care of their drug problem, it is final.
The drug war IS making YOU pay for it. To the tune of billions of tax dollars annually.
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"She would probably be dead or dying somewhere"
And you have a problem with that? I don't. It's simply Natural Selection at work. And working quite well, I might add.
Ahh, the limitless compassion of the modern American veers it's ugly head once more. When did we start absolutely, viscerally, hating each other?
98% of us claim to be Christian or to beleive in God, but this is who most of us have become.
I morn for the country that I knew as child. A country that cared for it citizenry and strive to make the world a better place.
Now, if you don't fit a mold, screw you.
Uh, Jim. This is what started to happen when Pres. Johnson began to introduce us to the "Great Society" followed by Madeline Murray O'Hare. I too grew up with "See Spot run." and listened to the great words of Martin Luther King, and had to read authors like Socrates and Plato, and in the afternoon my Grand mother Made me read aloud from the King James Bible (and she was a devout Catholic) but things Like P.C. and instant gratification both demanding "instant results" instead a gradual, learning / evolving process, this is what you get. Also, according to polls only 84% of America is "Christian". To you and your family, Merry Christmas and a Happy and Joyful New Year. Shalom.
Hey jim,
----"98% of us claim to be Christian or to beleive in God..."
I don't buy your "98%" but in any case, I'm happy to say I'm an enlightened member of the 2%. Wake up, buddy, it's 2011, not the Dark Ages.
God? Yo've got to be kidding!
Oh and it's B-E-L-I-E-V-E .
"I" before "E" except after "C". Remember? You learned it about the same "wonderful" time you were reading Dick and Jane on Cherry Street.
*facepalm*
Do dumb people do drugs or do drugs make people dumb?
yes
brian; the one comment reply that actually made me laugh out loud a little!
Short, sweet, and true!
Well, now I know. Wal-Mart has everything!
She was in the store for 6 hours mixing KIMMY-CALS. With that kind of security she might as well have grabbed a desk, mixer,lamp and set up a tent.
I hope she receives some help, but I'm sure she will only receive a sentence.
Do you really think we have an answer to a human on hard-core meth? Guess again! Nature however does have a solution.
So what are you saying? Kill her? And yes there is a solution and many have changed their lives for the better. But it is just much easier to sit behind a computer and judge people and sentence them to death then actually think of them as humans and try to envision a solution.
Tanzalone
So what are you saying? Kill her?
Of course not. Leave her alone. She's doing a fine job of that all by herself.
How about.........we actually HELP her?
Nah, that would be to moral for today's crowd.
Amazing, they do have everything in that store...Time to add some battery acid, auto parts, isle 5...Time to add the Lithium, electronics, battery rack. isle 7...
I go there for boxed and canned items but only during the week and in the daylight. Went there on the weekend, in the dark...whoa, Nelly!
i hate walmart with every fiber of my being, i avoid it like the plague that it is
Thanks to government hand outs, People have way too much time on their hands.
Occupy Tulsa was waiting for this batch.
The government should of handed your mom a morning after pill.
you got that right,all of these gov handouts, smh. people need to WORK for what they need/want.
You guys are really wallowing in the hate here aren't you?
I have a hard time contemplating 6 hours in the store? good job security. ??? maybe next time there will be an explosion and people will get hurt or die. hey I can't afford to keep food on my table but I don't go into a store and eat off the shevles! drugs are bad m'kay.
HOW was she going to cook it? Set up a grill in the seasons shop? What is wrong with people?
Hmm, well if she had half a brain, she'd setup a coleman stove in camping equipment with a propane bottle. Good thing she had less than half a brain.
microwave, isle 9.
"cook" doesn't actually mean cooking. Exothermic chemical reactions can be induced without heat especially when using NH3. Did you guys think it was like baking a cake?
There are a few different ways to compound and mix the chemicals to achieve a similar end result of crystallized methamphetamine.. One well known way is to hot process the master sub compound that includes either and acetaminophen is boiled.. The other is the cold process that uses an acid reacting with a metal which is what she was concocting and that uses a drain cleaner.. This mix is usually more contaminated with nasty chemicals and has been known to explode like mentos and diet coke spraying the cook with a very nasty acid.. Either way I feel sorry for the addicts that loose their free will to drugs like this.. About the only way to keep them off of it is to lock them up and many loose their minds as the addiction drives them insane..
Tanzalone... I think more like brittle, bring to a boil, stir in remaining ingrediants and pour onto cookie sheet and let cool.
No?
@Roadrunner..... uhhhh...you lost me at compound and mix....
i have zero idea how meth is even made
Yeah, ...um....it's like...they aren't even human anymore.
Sigh.
Read what real lying, thieving, "Christisn" hypocrites are really like. These snakes in the pulpit are just the latest scammers who call themselves christians:
http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/angel-food-ministry-benefited-1255097.html
Wow..All of these 2 people. They represent everyone in the pulpit, huh?
I would hate to think what you would say, if you saw 2 black men robbing an old lady..