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Occupy Wall Street activists scale a wall to get into Duarte Square after police removed the protesters early in the morning from Zuccotti Park on November 15, 2011, in New York City.
NEW YORK, NY - Occupy Wall Street’s next big direct action will strike at home – literally, a potential new camp for the flagship of the grassroots movement.
Protesters plan to try and occupy a nearly half-acre plot about one mile northwest of their former camp at Zuccotti Park on Saturday, the three month-anniversary of the movement. The land is owned by Trinity Church, whose operations include an Episcopal parish, a commercial realty business and a grant-making organization.
“We’re calling it Occupation 2.0,” said Mark Bray, of the OWS public relations working group. “It’s been a vacant lot for years and will continue to be a vacant lot for years. There is no indication yet as to how they’ll respond when the time comes, so we’ll see.”
But even though the church has assisted Occupy Wall Street by providing them meeting rooms and use of their neighborhood center, it is opposed to having them stay at the Duarte Square lot. An attempt to move in there on Nov. 15 -- the day protesters were evicted from Zuccotti Park – was rejected by the church.
“We disagree with those who argue that Trinity should -- indeed, must as a matter of conscience -- allow Occupy Wall Street to liberate its Duarte Square lot … for an open encampment and large scale assemblies. In all good conscience and faith, we strongly believe to do so would be wrong, unsafe, unhealthy and potentially injurious,” its rector, The Rev. Dr. James H. Cooper, said in a statement dated Dec. 9 and posted to the church website. “The health, safety and security problems posed by an encampment here, compounded by winter weather, would dwarf those experienced at Zuccotti Park. Calling this an issue of ‘political sanctuary’ is manipulative and blind to reality.”
Linda Hanick, a spokeswoman for the church, said Tuesday that their position would not change.
The Occupy Wall Street plan comes as authorities have shuttered many 'Occupy' camps across the country.
"Occupations create space for community, values, ideas and a level of meaningful dialogue absent in the present system," Occupy Wall Street said in a statement for the Dec. 17 action. They have allowed us to realize that we cannot fix our crises isolated from one another. We need collective action, and we need civic space. We are creating that civic space."
Protesters will bring musicians and others with them in their bid to pressure the church to let them take the space. They say they’ll do things differently this time to prevent problems -- such as a few assaults -- that tainted their efforts at Zuccotti Park. There won’t be personal tents, for example, only large ones for group meetings, said Brendan Burke, 41, of Brooklyn, who helped start the Occupy Wall Street security team.
“You’re coming here to build a community,” he said. “It’s all about a different vibe. It’s not just, ‘come here and crash.’ It’s, ‘come here and work.’”
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Perhaps they can put all those slackers up in the county jail.
And...perhaps the media could quit reporting on "all of those slackers", since we're all sick and tired of hearing about them.
And cost the American taxpayer (you and me) more money? I think not. I'm perfectly fine ignoring them. If they get in my face or attempt to block me from what I need to do with my life, they will find that at least one person in the so called "99%" won't put up with their crap.
LOL...flex those internet muscles Champ....LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
Perhaps all three of you should mind you own business. No one is forcing you to read or listen to this. If you don't like it, just go to Fox. There you will receive your daily dose of brainwashing regarding Reagan, supply side and trickle down economics. Why are you on this blog anyway? Doesn't FoxNews.com have its own blog?
They can come stay in my backyard. It's pretty spacious and I need the target practice.
@Me:)
First of all, this isn't a blog, what the heck? Second, I like how you tell people who disagree with you to go somewhere else and get "brainwashed", I'm assuming it's so you can sit here and have a reasoned debate with people that completely agree with you, because that's totally different than Fox News.
@Me:
Nobody is forcing you to read our comments either, let alone respond to them.
@Me: I love how because someone disagrees with you, you simply state they are brainwashed. Ad hominem much? Interested, you were the one that had the opportunity to go "elsewhere" as we were involved in discussion here first.
You probably still buy into the two-party crap. Democrats, Republicans, they're both the same. Neither party really minds what happens in any given election, so long as one party or the other stays in power. That way nothing ever gets done, and they keep their big money and their fabulous prizes. Associating with either party is rather contemptible, as neither group 1) has solutions 2) intends on seeking solutions and 3) would ever propose a valid solution.
Want to fix the country? Start by simplifying the tax code. Why don't the OWS people travel to Washington, DC, and wait until Congress is in session and keep them stuck in there until they start fixing the problems they've created?
Uh oh, there I go making sense again. I guess I'm brainwashed.
For Matt-3468366
You are not only brainwashed , you are a fool and an ignorant as well.
Keep dreaming !
Matt as far as I know, OWS did go and will continue to go to Washington. However, Washington is only a part of the problem. The real problem is Wall Street. They quietly funnel money to politicians and in essence hire them to do what Wall Street wants done. Outsourcing and massive job losses that followed were not Washington's idea. They were Wall Street's idea. And for that, they will pay and are already paying a very stiff penalty. That is why OWS is terribly important if we are to see any meaningful change in the near future. If enough people stand up, we just might be able to get rid of this corporate racketeering that's been going on for far too long. People who are attacking the OWS movement are supporting status quo. And status quo will be no more because we can't afford it. When enough Wall Street bankers have realized that business as usual is over, those lost jobs will be coming back and the country will start to function again. If we could only figure out how to outsource Wall Street to China and let them "fix" their economy...
@Me: If that is the generally sentiment of OWS, then they clearly do not understand the problem. Let me spell it out for you. The tax code is highly complicated, with concessions and loopholes which allow certain corporations to dodge tax burdens. Congress writes the tax code. Corporations use their money to essentially purchase congressional members to legislate loopholes into the tax code to allow corporations to make more money, essentially in a pay-to-play scheme. You do not vote for lobbyists in the general elections -- these people have jobs because of the complex nature of the tax code.
Demanding a simplified tax code in which there are no loopholes, e.g. a mildly progressive tax code that does not make concessions, not necessarily a flat tax, but a "gently sloped" tax, would eliminate the ability to buy influence in Washington.
That is the problem. Wall Street is merely using the tools at their disposal, which the elected officials play into. Wall Street is the symptom, not the source. Eliminate all deductions, exemptions, credits, etc., and you eliminate 99% of the problem.
Matt, you are wrong. The same tax code has been in place for decades. Nothing new. We actually paid more taxes under Bill Clinton and the economy didn't know when to quit. So taxes are clearly not what caused this mess . Loss of jobs is and we all know who to blame. That would be Wall Street, corporations and politicians that went along because they were paid to go along. Well, that stops here. Next November it will be only one party left standing. If Democrats win big and capture the House, the Presidency and make gains in the Senate, the economy will improve. If Republicans win big, America will become a third world country. There is no third option.
Me:)...
Why criticize folks on this site by saying they're basically "Fox News" zombies and then criticize them again for bothering to spend time on this MSN site ??? Shouldn't all who follow the news view different sources ?
And I watch Shepard Smith do the 7:00 news on Fox....if you can find a better news anchor in this solar system, please advise.
Me:)
This is what I keep asking the Fascists...why are they on this forum?
Surely, there can not be a shortage of Right Wing propaganda and twisted truth over at Fox.
O'Reilly and Hannity are still the Right-Wings posters modern-day heroes.
However, if they care to continue to come to this website its feels good to have the pleasure of trying to "enlighten" them!
@Me: You are completely missing the cause and going after the symptoms. You wouldn't treat cancer by trying to manage pain, would you? It is the complicated nature of the tax code. I am emphatically not saying we need to lower taxes. You are making assumptions. I am saying we need to reorganize the tax structure, which would eliminate loopholes. It's okay though, I understand if it's hard for you to comprehend.
Nice speculation on the "direction" of the country based solely on political parties. If the Democrats or Republicans win and there is no change to the tax code, you will see *no* difference.
PS - Bill Clinton was one of the key components to the housing mess we're "enjoying" now.
Matt, What is it with you and the tax code? You can eliminate corporate income taxes altogether and the economy would not move one inch. Why do you think that if a corporation pays little or no tax, they will turn around and start hiring people? Whatever breaks you give them they will take and apply them to their bottom line, not yours. This is not personal. Companies are run by people whose job it is to make as much as they possibly can for as long as they possibly can. If that means that 3/4 of the country goes on food stamps than they are doing their job. If an insurance company can somehow strangle all the elderly people who are on their death bed, they would gladly do it. And why? So they can make more money. The only two things that prevent that from happening are regulation and competition. Our government cannot create jobs, but our government must foster a competitive environment coupled by meaningful regulation.That means that when AT&T says "I will merge with all my competitors so that I can rob people blind", someone has to be able to say "No, you can't". That somebody has to be of equal or bigger size with enough power to do it. The only such entity that I know of is our government. In summary, over the past decade, we have tried to give corporations a free pass with almost everything with respect to lower taxes, less regulation and very little governmental interference. In return, we got what you see. Therefore, we are going to have to swing the pendulum back and allow the middle class to come back. We do that by telling the supply siders to get lost for a decade or two.
Actually Matt is correct about the tax code and Congress. That would be a worthy project for OWS to influence Congress to do something about the tax code. I don't see much change happening by occupying Wall Street. And if you want change, the tax code and Congress is where you need to start.
Me;)...
Your Democrat Party did have the presidency, House, and Senate for two years...and what did we get out of it ? Well over a year's time spent on a health care reform plan that they have been too embarassed about to even speak a word about it since it was passed.
Bunch of Idiots!!
@Me: Apparently reading comprehension is not one of your strong suits, and instead you are pretending as though I am making some argument so you can argue against it, e.g. straw man.
I did not say anywhere that we needed to reduce or eliminate corporate tax. What I have said, and what you cannot seem to wrap your head around, is that the code is highly complex, and it enables corruption through its complexity. If we simplified the code, which is not the same as cutting taxes, we would not have most of the problems with business being in bed with the government.
But please, continue making up things and pretending like you're providing any actual rebuttal to the argument.
HOW do these people how so much time to party and protest?
My husband and I are Both in our 60's and work everyday 9-5! (or later!)
The nuts on the West Coast yesterday in Calif. and Seattle totally destroyed the working
enviroment for THEIR 99% 'ers at the Docks. (do they care...he!! NO!)
Can you spell SELFISH & LAZY?
Patty, how do they get so much time? They are unemployed, mostly by choice.
The real downside? They want YOU to be unemployed, too.
Can you spell hyperbole?
If you are at work, aren't you supposed to be working?
The converse can be said for OWS.
If you are unemployed, shouldn't you be looking for work?
For UDunnoBro
"They are unemployed, mostly by choice"
You must be out of your mind for sure . Are you on drugs ?
Only an imbecile can make a such statement.I guess you are !
If you are unemployed, shouldn't you be looking for work?
I saw an interesting story on the news the other day regarding one of the unemployed at the OWS NY camp. It would seem that someone shouted out to her "Get a job!" So she made herself a sign to do just that. I forget what her education was, but it was pretty high up on the scale. Well, she did get a job after about 2 weeks as a research assistant.....ON WALL STREET! I guess a paycheck won out over principle.
The reason you do not have the time to protest your right to not be enslaved by corporate greed is because you are already enslaved. You and your husband have to work that hard to keep from losing all your "Assets". You are an endebted slave who has no choice but work until your dead. Think about the people who have gotten rich off your debt and rising interest rates, You think they worked as hard as you did your whole life? Now go back to the gold mines like the good little slave worker you are.
You'd better go back to counting bodies. You're not talking a whole lot of sense. I happen to enjoy my career choice, work for a wonderful company and have a wonderful boss.
This is now more of a joke than a movement. It's like Jimmy Fallon on SNL... first he was new and fresh and interesting, then kind of funny, now it's just sad and time to hang it up because you aren't good at what you do.
OWS is the Wile E. Coyote of protest movements.
UdummoBro, lmao, so true.
UDunnoBro -- HAHAH that was awesome :)
wake up sheeple; these "jobless liberal hippy scum protesters" are fighting for you.
But you know, in 10 years when their are no more states, just Corporate controlled "zones", and the secret police have the right to throw you in jail w/o a trial... and when people who work 40hours a week cannot make enough money to even put food on the table, while the American Royalty continue to game the system so they can keep everything... when that happens, I better hear you same sheeple embracing that new world order with wide open arms, because that's what you want, right?
I don't even think you troll posters are real; how much are you getting paid to sit on your lazy butts all day and blast people on the internet, trying to put forth this Corporate Agenda and convince the rest of us real people that you somehow represent the 99% of us who are getting trampled right now.
They are not fighting for anyone other than themselves - they don't want to pay back their student loans. Other than that they have no "agenda". Complaining about income gaps and concentration of wealth is not an agenda, it has existed since the beginnings of our country and will exist well into the future. It is not something that government controls.
no, wrong. you are just too lazy and blind and ignorant to see it. In fact, the groups have acknowledged that their are many different issues they want to combat, but they have formalized a list of specific things (I think there are 5 items) they wish to change. So next time, prior to posting here and generalizing about who these people are, go read a little, or watch a news program OTHER then fox news.
You all talk about how these people are "jobless scum", where are YOUR jobs? I see the same 5-10 user names posting in every single one of these comments section for every single occupy related story. Go out and read something or learn something; STOP BEING IGNORANT. it is not a virtue. you have a duty and responsibility to not be sheep; you talk about Democracy? take some responsibility for your country instead of just being a yes-man for the corporations.
Wake up OWS. I busted my ass to get through school and get a job.
Maybe you could bust yours and grow a little personal accountability.
Scott - Not a 1%er but doing very well...also on the conservative side...I think you have some valid points, but the problem is not very many in the OWS crowd can articulate why they are doing their thing. Also, once we start talking about the American Royalty and calling rich people evil, it tends to distract from the greater point. Let's face it some of the OWS stuff is ridiculous and some of it compeling...pay off debt I incurred because I am not that smart (ridiculous)...publicizing the fact that our elected officials, large banks and some large corporations are literally stealing from the working class (compeling)...camping out and singing Kumbaya isn't working...the problem as I see it is that outside forces tend to take over a movement without clear leadership...happened to Tea Party, everyone hates them because they got hi-jacked by the republican party...happening to the OWS because the unions and democrats have taken over...maybe if people got more educated with regard to their elected officials and the impact they have on our daily lives, different people would get elected. If you think either party Dems or Repubs care about you, you are mistaken. Any pol in office more than 2 terms is a complete joke and in it for their own piece of the pie.
They are not fighting for me. Not one of them ever asked my what I wanted. They just assume I want what they want. No, I believe in working for the things I want. I don't go around asking for free hand outs so I can sit on my bottom and surf social sites all day.
I never asked for their help, and I don't need it. Every time they claim to be 'fighting' or 'speaking' for me, all I want to do is distance myself from these losers even further.
I'll take the corporate controlled zones over wanna-be activist pan-handlers any day of the week.
These people are still whining? Good God, no one guaranteed you an easy life, oh wait your parents did and you believed them. Sorry, you are not the first group of people to not have a 'great' job out of college and you are not the first set of people to have college loans that needed to be paid off. You are the first set of people though who think the world owes them a living, that the very college loans you agreed to pay back are suddenly 'too much' when you could have gone to a community college or learned a skill. You are the first set up people who think that life is some guarantee with everyone being rich.
Sorry, your poor choices in life are nothing new. I too graduated college during a recession, took ANY job I could get which was minimum wage at the time, yet managed to live on my own (with only a bed) in the apt I rented with a roommate, I ate pasta EVERY night and owned no cell phone, computer, etc etc (yes all those items existed at the time). You see you need to learn what a 'need' is in life and what a 'want' is and when understand that (doubtful in this lifetime) perhaps you will figure life out.
I am in the 99% as are ALL of my friends and family and for the life of any of us we all think you are a bunch of whining losers who think life owes them something. About the only thing we 'might' agree with you on is that WASHINGTON is the problem and 100% of you should be there each and ever day until THEY address what is wrong with this country. We agree things are broken, but take it up with Washington, not the ports, businesses or anyone that happens to have a job because you majored in <insert useless major> in college or refust to work for minimum wage for a while.
For Grumpy61
Go to bed man , you 're tired and don't understand the essence of the subject .
Keep dreaming and wake up when you feel a little bit better
Wow, you are IMO, incorrect. Yes the tea baggers got sucked in by the GOP. But so far, OWS has not been sucked in by any one. The unions understand why OWS is doing, and have marched with them, and also told them not to protest at the docks. Guess what Wow, the OWS protested at the docks. Sure sounds like maybe the unions got hijacked by OWS.
It figures Raisa, you would enjoy a corporate zone. Ever done any critical, independent thought on exactly what is going on?
Jaga,
I may be tired, but at least I warm in my home. One that I work to provide my family and not expect someone else to just give me. So if this is dreaming, then I will keep on dreaming while you sleep in the cold of some illegal camp you feel is your right to set up.
There is still an OWS movement?
Unfortunately.
When this OWS thing first started I thought, cool! Finally the crooks over on Wall St. are going to find out what the common people think about them. So, after a couple weeks, yeah it seemed kind of directionless, but maybe that was the calm before the storm.
Then they started advocating that people not shop on Black Friday. So in effect they were telling people, many who had budgeted for the sales, to just buy stuff at full price. Dumb idea OWS!
But for me the straw that broke the camel's back is when they started preventing truckers from getting to work. Now, there are a lot of down-home kind of jobs out there. Farmers, plumbers, mail delivery. Truckers are part of it. The American worker, driving alone day and night along the nation's highways, your Average Joe making his way best he can, sometimes popping little white pills and driving 3 days without sleep. And OWS wants to stop these people from going to work?
Something is really broken in the mentality of OWS. Truckers are not financial CEOs or backstabbing greedy Congress members! Neither are people trying to save a buck shopping sales. It's one thing if you can't get a job, if you're in debt over your head due to some greedy bank that skirted the law. It's another thing entirely though to claim to be standing up for the common people and then protest against them!
You had your shot OWS, you didn't end up doing sh!t due to your own disorganization and incompetence. The same jerkbags who got us into this recession are still doing exactly the same thing they were four years ago. Next time you want to effect change, do something EFFECTIVE. Lounging about all day in parks, blockading people who are trying to make a living, none of this is changing anything except the perception of OWS.
I agree! What did the truckers ever do to anyone? A day lost for them is at least hundreds of dollars off the table. It's going to be a sad Christmas if they have to explain to their kids why there are no presents this year. Gee, OWS, way to endear yourself to the masses.
The point in this whole debacle that really got me going though was the house occupation. Why OWS thinks its ok to steal someone else's property for people that have spent their adult lives on the public dole (with two children, no less!) is beyond me.
Perhaps instead of gathering musicians to Occupy churches, they should be booking venues for legal rallies and finding ways to achieve their goals without alienating people. Sheesh.
Cooper and his church openly supported #OWS -- and still to this day exploits Occupy to promote their spiritual development programs. This is a classic NIMBY hypocrisy exhibited by Trinity Wall Street -- which purports to be a big advocate for social justice, and among one of the most "progressive" Anglican parishes on earth; yet they still represent the 1% who are the biggest donors and highest-pledging parishioners. Shame.
If you want to support them, let them camp in your yard. Otherwise don't tell others to open up there property to allow them to camp out and make a mess for some one else to take care of.
You control our world. You’ve poisoned the air we breathe, contaminated the water we drink, and copyrighted the food we eat. We fight in your wars, die for your causes, and sacrifice our freedoms to protect you. You’ve liquidated our savings, destroyed our middle class, and used our tax dollars to bailout your unending greed. We are slaves to your corporations, zombies to your airwaves, servants to your decadence. You’ve stolen our elections, assassinated our leaders, and abolished our basic rights as human beings. You own our property, shipped away our jobs, and shredded our unions. You’ve profited off of disaster, destabilized our currencies, and raised our cost of living. You’ve monopolized our freedom, stripped away our education, and have almost extinguished our flame. We are hit… we are bleeding… but we ain’t got time to bleed. We will bring the giants to their knees and you will witness our revolution!
Sincerely,
The Serfs.
WDIM2U - Just exactly what are you going to do once you bring the United States to its knees? You want anarchy, you want the tax payer to pay for your student loans, you want every person who has money to give it up to you, you want Communism! I would like to see all of the Occupiers go back to their cave dwellings and shut the hell up! I am sick and tired of hearing about you. I am sick of you stopping the common man from going to work. You are a disgusting lot of animals who need to spend some quality time in the local jail.
This just sounds like a bad imitation of a passage from Fight Club....
Occupy Wall Street all day all week!
How about Occupying a bath tub? Because they smell like sh*t.
That's your breath, Ruken!! Try standing upwind.
No, there is not audience in a bath tub. Must stay in the public eye, and one of the ways to draw attention to yourself is to smell like sh*t.
Sicken Tired: Don't you mean I should try standing 'downwind'?
It generally helps the insult if you get it right.
No genius...when you stand downwind, the offensive scent is blown in your direction.
When you stand upwind, your scent is blown AWAY, with the wind.
Typical brain-dead Conservative, needs everything spelled out for them. Maybe I'll get 3rd job at Fox News?
You actually thanked your own post? Classic.... :)
When I stand downwind, the scent is blown away from you.
Dumbsh*t.
No wonder OWS members can't get a job.
Sick
You are the Typical Liberal OWS Supporter.
Doesn't know which way the wind blows.
Let me settle this wind debate. It all depends in which direction the wind is blowing that determines where you stand.
Well, it seems both of you are in agreement that your breath stinks, haha.
Oh Scott, this kind of post is what you get when you smoke catnip. I hope in 10 years you are able to come back an re-read what you've posted. Would like to see the look on you're face.
Do you really believe you are the first to make such predictions? You should really stop smoking the catnip and go back to school.
Aren't these OWS idiots aware that there is a law regarding separation between Church and State????? They cannot expect a church to give them any type of sanctuary. I knew this would happen when the church, out of kindness, stated they could stay there for awhile. Now the little OWS spoiled children want the church to let them stay, possibly for many months, in the vacant lot the church owns. It just goes to show you no good deed goes unpunished and that OWS will never be satisfied with anything; they will always want more, push for more, and never be satisfied with anything that people do for them. That is why most of the public is against them now. They started out with public sympathy but have shown their true colors in the past two months. They want everything given to them, jobs, places to live, food, student loans paid, free healthcare, etc. This is not real life. Life is tough and the OWS people are just not tough enough to face the trials ahead. Good luck you morons because you are going to need lots of it.
One complaint of OWS is the banker bailouts, and the corruption and cronism between Wall Street and Washington. But everyone is choosing to ignore that as a legitimite reason to protest.
That's what the right and the Banks want! To take everyone's eye's off the ball, off the Banks and Wall Street. They want to Demonize, Belittle, and discredit OWS until no one is listening to them. That is what they do to everyone who challenges their greed and their unregulated stealing from this country. Basically, it is an effort to character assisonate the OWS. Its bull, you just have to see it for what it is. They want to keep the citizens ignorant and fearful... most of these people putting down the OWS are that, ignorant and fearful... they have no real idea what the OWS is...or what they stand for that's why they repeat themselves so much and try to say it's just a bunch of college kids etc. ...but change will come anyway...you can't stop it. This is political science /lawyer 101... discredit the witness! Sorry, you are too late, we know who you are and we've seen what you've done...
Maybe its time to wind down the occupy movement until spring. Protesters freezing to death won't help anybody.
Yes, of course, "protest when its comfortable" lol. Its been long overdue to wrap up this nonsense for good. Now that its getting cold, you want to close up shop and go back to mommy and daddy's basement until big bad winter goes away.
The hope is that once they're back in their parents' basement they won't want to leave come spring.
We could only hope for that. Maybe once they realize that sleeping on the couch is better than sleeping on a park bench, that'll knock some sense into them and they'll realize that what they've got isn't so bad after all
Of course they are trolls. This kind of stupidity can only be paid for.
I don't know Sicken, I've found that kind of stupidity is also genetic.
And I see the apple doesn't fall far from the tree..... ;)
I know :(
I only graduated with a 3.8. My Dad had a 3.9.
T_T
And I'm Harry, Prince of Wales. I think the Junior High library will be closing for the day shortly, hurry along.
Sure thing, I have an office Christmas party in an hour.
Maybe master will pat your head & give you a biscuit for being a good troll this year. :)
I'm sure he'd pat your head once you pull it out of your ass.
Bahahaha!!! Score one for Ruken!
Kids, if you don't stop arguing, I'm going to turn this car around and drive you back home...
You aren't going to pull over?
No one wants these squatters dirtying up their property.
It's unsanitary, attracts a lot of nutcases and a wholly useless endeavor.
Look at all the signage whining 'poor me!'
Get a marketable job skill and stop whining!
Like being a bank-supported poster you mean?
Just another fallacy to keep on whining.
Blame everyone but yourself; how puerile.
Wow, I actually found a post I agree with Steven B on.
Is the world ending?
@Steven,
Well put! I totally agree.
"dirtying up their property", wouldn't it be their property as well as yours and mine, "we the people" own the streets of New York City,,,,
I see both sides, but to say the church should refuse sanctuary? The city should jail freedom of speech and rite to assemble? i hear a lot of confusion as to where and whom we are and how we as Americans got here
The church should immediately have every one of these worthless pieces of trash arrested for trespassing. They serve no purpose.
I like their little signs in that picture, "I will never own a house in my life(time)". You know what they say: If you keep saying the same thing over and over, eventually you'll learn to believe it. These people really have the wrong idea, defeatism is not the way to go especially in difficult times like these.
You hit the nail on the head. If they actually worked, they might achieve something.
These OWS simply feel entitled.
Their entire mindset is one of envy and scorn at those who actually work to get what they want.
Is it possible to work and go to OWS? Maybe even take a shower and go to OWS?
Possible, but unlikely.
Just like it's unlikely any of them are awake before noon. It's why I never see them on my morning commute.
Nope not possible... it's in the
jobdescriptionAn old, tired lie. No one is buying it, that's why your 'movement' is dismissed by the average American as so many deadbeats.
In fact, way less than 1% are in support of these squatters.
Its funny, the righties just keep slamming the OWS movement and its because of the fear of it. This is going to get much bigger, just imagine from spring 2012 to election day. These people are the future of this Country which is a mess, politicians and supreme court justices that are bought and sold like cheap prostitutes. Nobody in their right mind would think this movement is just going to go away even if the "fair & balanced" news tells them that. This is a worldwide movement and whether you like it or not there is some very big changes coming!
Not fear.
Disgust and revulsion at how people can be so lazy and greedy all at the same time.
Spot on Jim. The Teatards wouldn't even give this a second thought if it was "inconsequential". They should be scared, their outdated politics and mindset is due to expire shortly. Like it or not, these "smelly slackers" will be running the country in 20 years.
JimPA-1934968, this movement serves no purpose and anybody that believes in it is just as worthless. What have they accomplished other than ganing undeserved media attention?? Has Wall Street stopped operating the same as it has every day for the last decade?
So, what is the OWS 'agenda'?
Please be specific; no nebulous terms like 'greedy bankers' and 'wall street people'.
See if you can articulate something cogent.
JimPA, WHAT? You trying to compare those crooks with cheap ho's? Come on, at least the ho's work for their money, other than that yes, they screw people also.
Steven B, why don't you ask the propaganda minister of the GOP, who stated he was scared of them? I'm sure you would believe him.
Everyone let's stop bickering and go out for a beer!
I don't drink :(
That's even scarier. At least you would have had an excuse for not understanding the difference between upwind & downwind. Are your parents cousins or something?
Yea, I'm not the one that understood. Right.
Yeah, go pitch your tents on the back lawn of the White House...or out back of Congress. Pelosi and Obama are your biggest fans.
All these names thrown around on both sides of the political spectrum, (teatards, slackers, ect..), don't really solve anything but dehumanize the other side of the argument so you don't have to give a crap about their points. That's the same approach that all those talking heads like Limbaugh use and I'd rather not chose either side if that's the tactics used to win their arguments.
I thought these goobers went home, think they would have gotten cold or run out of weed by now
Now they are going after the churches???? A mosk will be next???
Idiots.
These people have no idea how the ecomony, a business, or the real world works and they want to decide how things should work. Take from you and give to me is a short sighted mentality.