US calls for ban on in-car phone use ... even with Bluetooth

The report isn't binding, but it's likely to be influential with lawmakers. NBC's Tom Costello reports.

Updated at 4 p.m. ET: The government's transportation safety experts recommended Tuesday to ban all American drivers from using portable electronic devices — including cellphones, even if you use a hands-free device.

The recommendation, which isn't binding but which is likely to influence the decisions of Congress and state legislatures in writing  new safety laws, makes only two exceptions: You could still use GPS navigation devices, and you could use your cellphone in an emergency.

"No call, no text, no update, is worth a human life," Deborah Hersman, chairwoman of the National Transportation Safety Board, said at a news conference in Washington.

Besides calling for government action, the NTSB also urged consumer electronics manufacturers to figure out a way to "disable the functions of portable electronic devices within reach of the driver when a vehicle is in motion" while at the same time being able to turn themselves  back on in an emergency.


Jason Oxman, a senior vice president of the Consumer Electronics Association, said that as far as he knew, "nothing that would meet all of those parameters would exist today."

In general, Oxman  told msnbc.com, the focus should be on drivers' choices, not on "specific devices." He endorsed the NTSB's recommendations to the extent that they would regulate activities that take the driver's eyes off the road — “manual texting while driving, for example, you shouldn't be allowed to do it," he said. But he criticized the safety board's suggestion to disallow hands-free devices like Bluetooth earpieces.

"It may be that NTSB, in searching for a solution, is not aware of all of the technologies that exist today, and that is one reason we look forward to the opportunity to work with them," he said.

Safety advocates have long called for such a ban like the one the NTSB proposed Tuesday to reduce the phenomenon of distracted driving, which the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says killed 3,092 people in 2010.

The NHTSA reported last week that about 20 percent of all drivers and 50 percent of drivers 21 to 24 years old admit to having texted while driving. Overall, more than three-quarters of drivers say they are willing to answer calls on all, most or some trips.

"People continue to make bad decisions about driving distracted — but what's clear from all of the information we have is that driver distraction continues to be a major problem," NHTSA Administrator David Strickland said last week in reporting the numbers. 

Scientists strongly endorse NTSB proposal

But similar studies linking cellphone use to poor driving have been challenged, most recently by researchers at Wayne State University in Detroit, who concluded last month that some earlier studies were seriously flawed.

The report, published in the journal Epidemiology, examined to earlier studies that examined crashes in which cellphone records showed that the driver had used a cellphone. Those studies "likely overestimated the relative risk for cellphone conversations," the researchers said, because they improperly assumed that the drivers were actually in motion when they were on the phone — in other words, they didn't factor in such so-called part-time driving.

Abstract: Cell Phone Use and Crash Risk: Evidence for Positive Bias

Only 10 states ban handheld devices right now, and 35 ban texting while driving.

The recommendation comes following the NTSB's investigation of an August 2010 accident in Gray Summit, Mo., involving a pickup truck, two school buses and several other vehicles. 

Driving and texting: msnbc.com cartoonists weigh in

The accident was blamed on the 19-year-old driver of the pickup, who sent or received 11 texts in the 11 minutes before the pileup, which killed two people and injured 38 others.

"That finding raises a red flag to all of us on the highways," Hersman said.

Full NTSB report on 2010 Missouri crash

The NTSB recommendation wouldn't cover GPS devices, but — if it eventually becomes law — it would ban using your phone for any reason, even with a Bluetooth headset or speakers. The only exception would be to call 911 in an emergency.

NBC News' Tom Costello contributed to this report from Washington.

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Comment author avatarAnotherLBowman1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Woot!!! Finally somebody has noticed what a menace cell phones are to other drivers. I sure hope this takes effect. I'm tired of dodging drivers who's top priority is their phone rather than the car they are driving.

  • 252 votes
#1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:25 PM EST
Comment author avatarWake up2840Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

what about just poor drivers in general?, you can not pass a law for every stupid thing that people do.

  • 202 votes
#1.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:30 PM EST

AnotherLBowman1

Agreed, and since driving is a privilege and not a right, the civil liberatarian fringe can STFU. I don't need my car journeys to be put at risk by some yabbering dimwit. If the call is THAT important, they can pull off to the roadside and give the telephone call all their attention.

  • 129 votes
#1.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:35 PM EST

Meh, this will not go any where. Too many road warriors that do business out of their cars. I am liberal as they come and I cannot get behind this. I say if someone has an accident, because of a self created distraction, then come down a bit harder on them, but an out right ban is silly and will never gain traction.

  • 93 votes
#1.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:39 PM EST

Driver: Good evening ociffer. May I asked why you pulled me over?

Cop: Because I observed you talking on your cellphone while driving.

Driver: Oh, no, sorry but it was an emergency call.

Cop: Umm, ok, well then you are free to go.

:D

  • 25 votes
#1.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:44 PM EST
Comment author avatarEmanuelleExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Look, I'm a "road warrior" and usually on a call as I leave work at 4 to be home in time to feed my 6 month old daughter (yea, I'm an evil mom. I work full time). I use the bluetooth in my car, I don't touch my phone, and I don't see the big deal.

If you're a big enough idiot that talking, listening, and driving is enough distraction for you that you actually endanger other people's lives, then perhaps you shouldn't have passengers in your car to begin with, because those passengers require the same amount of mental effort as a phone conversation, if not more.

  • 164 votes
#1.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:46 PM EST

Cop: Let me check with the 911 dispatch in the area to see if they received your call.

  • 43 votes
#1.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:48 PM EST

I would push for more training over this. People have no idea how to drive a car regardless of being on the phone. I see people pulled over to the shoulder with their right turn signal on. You are not making a right. Put your hazards (four-ways) on!

Signal before you start to turn...not AS you are turning!

  • 56 votes
#1.7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:48 PM EST

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR1iUmq6ilA

What about people like this guy?

  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:50 PM EST
Comment author avatarJoey Rollinsvia FacebookExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hmmm How about all the Police I see driving around using there cell phones for non emergencies.. Sounds like the United States is becoming more towards Marshall Law than a Democracy.. I am in California I see Cops using there cell phones all the time.. and laughing while they drive..

  • 86 votes
#1.9 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:53 PM EST
Comment author avatarEltexExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Is this to save lives? Well, we should ban people from having kids <8yrs old in cars, no food in cars, no radios, and while I think about it, maybe we should ban cars altogether. After all, if we banned driving, we would save countless highway deaths each year, and we wouldn't have to make all these other laws to ban distracting stuff.

Here is another idea. If you drive recklessly or cause an accident, no matter the circumstances, you get in serious trouble under existing laws. Why do we need to create more laws to prevent something that is already against the law?

  • 120 votes
#1.10 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:54 PM EST
Comment author avatarCassandra, who knew?Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

A ban is probably a good idea (since too many are inconsiderate), but it just isn't going to happen nation-wide. I like going to Ohio and not have to sneak to use my cell phone - which I rarely do anyway. In Cali, I have to sneak and text while at a stoplight, which technically is still a no-no. Too bad moderation can't be the rule of the day.

  • 7 votes
#1.11 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:55 PM EST

"If you're a big enough idiot that talking, listening, and driving is enough distraction for you that you actually endanger other people's lives, then perhaps you shouldn't have passengers in your car to begin with, because those passengers require the same amount of mental effort as a phone conversation, if not more."

Research has demonstrated that only a small percentage of people can actually multitask efficiently. If a business call is so important that it can't wait until you get to the office, you are a distracted driver if you are participating in that call and driving simultaneously. Most of the time it may not matter, but the time that you are required to respond to a driving situation quickly, will be the time that your response time will be slowed enough so that you may hurt yourself or someone else. Is it really worth it? And, btw, banning passengers was not part of the article.

  • 36 votes
#1.12 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:58 PM EST

I have to sneak and text while at a stoplight

No, you don't have to, you choose to. And since most people, when doing this, begin looking at their phone before at a full stop, and are still looking as they begin to accelerate, your choice (not need) is a danger to others.

But I'm sure that latest text is worth the lives of the family in the minivan you crash into someday.

  • 59 votes
#1.13 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:58 PM EST
Comment author avatarMac ForresterExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The governments transportation Dept can go straight to hell on this one. It allows people to talk while mobile. It's the whole point of using one of the goddamn things. Should have thought about the driving safety before allowing them to be sold. Now that everyone has 'em, these son-a-bitches see a way to extract more money from the citizenry.

  • 33 votes
#1.14 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:59 PM EST

Then we should place a ban on idiot drivers who like to do other things while driving, not just messing with their phones.

  • 35 votes
#1.15 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:59 PM EST

take away, All the; Distractions !!! and force the insurance industry to Lower our Rates to 1/2 PRICE !!!...

  • 24 votes
#1.16 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:00 PM EST

This won't go far. They'd have to ban ALL communications, including CB and radio (police). I agree with an above comment that they NEED to enforce existing laws. The police don't even check after an accident unless someone is DEAD. Distracted driving is just that, no matter the "cause" it is distracted driving.

  • 17 votes
#1.17 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:01 PM EST
Comment author avatarJerkInCoolClothesExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

safety studies aside, what about those people who bought a particular car over another BECAUSE it has bluetooth cellphone features? how will THAT be enforced? would a recall be issued? would it be disabled on the next service call? who pays for it? on top of that, would those people have grounds for litigation because the feature they wanted was forcibly removed?

  • 29 votes
#1.18 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:01 PM EST

I don't know; I'm in Louisiana, and they just tried to do the same thing in the State Legislature; Hey, it might get some traction down here, but elsewhere, I don't know; I listen to NPR, and heaqr all the time about accidents on the nations highways which could be related to cellphone usage while driving; Personally, I do not take calls while driving; (Baton Rouge drivers have to be the worst in the country) and everyone i know knows that if I "ignore" your call, I'm driving!!! Yeah, this gets on my nerves, as I'm sure it does everybody else, but what gets me, is when you pass a Police car, going down the road, and this numb-skull is riding along on his/her cell-phone, and speeding, might I add; But an out-right ban on in-car cell-phone usage just might catch on down here, what with the Governor we got?!?

  • 9 votes
#1.19 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:02 PM EST

Anytime somebody gets behind the wheel of a piece of metal, hurtling down the road at 60 miles or better an hour, whose very direction can be adjusted with a flick of the wrist, they should at least recognize the intelligence of making sure the entire BRAIN is involved, as well. KUDOS, CONGRESS.

Now, about those jobs.......

  • 29 votes
#1.20 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:02 PM EST
Comment author avatarJoey Rollinsvia FacebookExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

And the ones that cant usually drive are ASIANS. Hell they think they own the road changing lanes without looking... I say ban all asian's from using the phone or driving period...

  • 20 votes
#1.21 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:03 PM EST
Comment author avatarFedup-3314606Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Can anyone say big brother? Talking on a phone is no different than talking to someone in your car. Lets ban the radio because you have to take your eyes off the road to change the station, connect a iPod, or change cd's. Another minor technicality to their "findings", just 2 days ago there was a report released which indicated that traffic fatalities are at a 40-year?? (recollection) low. Given the number of people driving and the number of distractions (all kinds), just how does this finding correlate with the NTSB determination? Oh yeah...we are all incapable of making decisions for ourselves. Thank goodness they are here to save me from myself.

  • 54 votes
#1.22 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:03 PM EST
Comment author avatararmy-3854635Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

How many accidents happened where no one was talking on cell phones? I am willing to bet it is far higher than the amount attributed to cell phones. In that case, maybe we should make it illegal to drive without talking on a cell phone.

  • 23 votes
#1.23 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:03 PM EST
Comment author avatarDavidMGExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Instead of pushing these type of laws how about they focus on speeding up the adoption of self driving vehicles.

  • 7 votes
#1.24 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:03 PM EST

"Besides calling for government action, the NTSB also urged consumer electronics manufacturers to figure out a way to "disable the functions of portable electronic devices within reach of the driver when a vehicle is in motion."

I am all for no cell phones while driving but what about passengers? If I was a passenger in the vehicle I would be in reach of the driver; does that mean my cell would be disabled as well, my kids DVD players, my kids video games?

  • 15 votes
#1.25 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:04 PM EST

Ok, I agree with banning all texting and any other "input" related apps.

And I also agree with banning all hands-on, hold-the-phone, manually-dialed cellphone usage.

But, I completely disagree with banning hands-free cellphone usage. Hands-free cellphone usage is no more distracting than talking to a passenger in the car. So what's next we ban all conversation in automobiles. I mean come on. Let's not lose sight of common sense here. Voice-dialed, hands-free cellphone usage should still be permitted.

.

  • 40 votes
#1.26 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:04 PM EST
Comment author avatarpuppet leadersExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

☑ Ron Paul 2012

restore common sense

  • 29 votes
#1.27 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:05 PM EST

Emergency is a broad brush. Is it an emergency if my daughter has a fever and I'm on the phone with the pediatrician making an appointment? To me, yes. To someone else probably not. That said, an emergency does not require 911 assistance 100% of the time and to think so is fairly asinine.

DrDrGimmetheNews(good song btw!), the article is about distracted drivers and the finger being pointed at the use of phones in the car, including hands free, being a distraction and danger. No one is pointing a finger at any of the other distractions, like the lady putting eyeliner on as she's driving, the guy shaving, or those individuals who eat a full on breakfast/lunch/dinner or whatever while driving. I even saw a guy brushing his teeth while driving, once. That is far more distracting and falls more into the category of multitasking than does conversation. I agree with a ban on texting, emailing, holding the headset, etc while driving, but banning people from talking is a bit too far. There is absolutely no difference between talking handsfree in your car on your cellphone and talking to a passenger or even a child in the backseat.

  • 20 votes
#1.28 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:06 PM EST

Hmmm How about all the Police I see driving around using there cell phones for non emergencies.

They sure got a radio in there car which is like a cell phone that is constantly on. Not to mention the computer in the dash.

  • 9 votes
#1.29 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:06 PM EST
Comment author avatarThe Devil-1138528Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

ORB 1943

AnotherLBowman1

Agreed, and since driving is a privilege and not a right, the civil liberatarian fringe can STFU.

Then you should stay your dumb ass off the road. Because if you are half as stupid as your comment you are more of a menace on the road then a cell phone ever will be. Abolish the NTSB. I have every right to drive.

  • 10 votes
#1.30 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:07 PM EST

I am old enough to remember life before car phones and we managed just fine. Having said that I am all for making it impossible for drivers to text, but using a bluetooth ... that seems excesive, even for me.

  • 27 votes
#1.31 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:09 PM EST

Nucking Futs!

Never mind failure to clear a lane before changing (cutting people off)

Never mind failure to use turn signals

Never mind people driving slow in the fast lane

Never mind putting on makeup, reading a book, etc

Bluetooth is a success story where technology being wrangled safely into our daily lives is concerned.

  • 29 votes
#1.32 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:10 PM EST
Comment author avatarChris Andersonvia Facebook

Communication is required for many jobs in this country, especially mobile. Banning communication in the car would force businesses and mundane life to restructure. The US should be more concerned about creating safer phones and ways to text with voice recognition and accept the new global lifestyle we all live in than crippling the job growth and hold onto the past.

  • 5 votes
#1.33 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:11 PM EST

As a motorcycle rider I really hope this goes nationwide. The cell phone idiots take a lot of joy of of riding as so many distracted people "didn't See The Motorcycle". I wonder how many motorcyclists have died because of cell phone users. It is absolutely worth it even if it saves just one life.

  • 27 votes
#1.34 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:12 PM EST

The few always spoil things for the many. Many folks can talk and keep their heads while driving but some cannot. Followed too many people lately who jerk from one side of their lane to the other and back as they have trouble handling their phones. Too many fail to move when a light turns green. They fail to keep up with the car in front thinking they are "safe" if they stay well below the speed limit. All the signs a cop will key on to look closer and then nail em if the cops sees that phone. They should charge em $200 or more for getting caught and then those drivers will up their skill level of let the phone rest while they drive. Either way it's good for all.

  • 10 votes
#1.35 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:13 PM EST

If they come down hard on regular people using Bluetooth in their vehicles, they should come down just as hard on the cops talking on their dispatch radios while driving, and the truckers using CB radios (do they still use those ancient things, or am I stuck in the 70's)?

To me, it's no different talking hands-free on a Bluetooth connection than it is talking to a passenger in the next seat....will we be forced to not chat with our passengers while we drive? I mean, what's next??? How about singing along with the radio??

I think texting, web-surfing, eating/drinking and especially putting on your make-up or doing your hair while driving are far more distracting than hands-free talking. Let's tackle those monsters before we go messing with hands-free chatting.

  • 12 votes
#1.36 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:14 PM EST

There is already a law on the books. It's called inattentive driving. This would adequately cover texting/talking on a cell phone. What's next? No singing and driving? That would suck! I get a lot of practice time in that way! :)

  • 7 votes
#1.37 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:15 PM EST

Before Cell phones, the problem was people fiddling with the radio, hair, climate control kids, and pets. Although Cellphone has complicated this, but makers made adjustments so they can be less distracting. The true issue is texting - it demands even more concentration that talking on the phone, and let's all be honest, the biggest problem with the calls while you are driving are dialing and holding a phone, which can be nearly eliminated.

  • 2 votes
#1.38 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:16 PM EST
Comment author avatarDoubter222Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Emanuelle: I hope you've made provisions for care of your soon-to-be-orphaned daughter.

  • 3 votes
#1.39 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:18 PM EST

What next after this master piece of legislation?.."NO gum chewing", "No spitting out the window", "No smoking in the car when other people are present", WWHHAAATTT...

More stupid laws...Why do our legislators waste their time with this BS when we have many more important issues to fix?..Makes you wonder where their heads are?..Here's an idea that will help straighten out America...Doubt if they have thought of this one yet...

Let's hire a federal employee to sit in every car so we can make sure no one violates the law...Sounds like a good idea to fix the unemployment problem...

Makes about as much sense as the above Master Pieces of legislation they are now contemplating...

  • 5 votes
#1.40 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:18 PM EST

"If you're a big enough idiot that talking, listening, and driving is enough distraction for you that you actually endanger other people's lives, then perhaps you shouldn't have passengers in your car to begin with, because those passengers require the same amount of mental effort as a phone conversation, if not more."

That's not true at all. A passenger can see what's happening. A passenger won't distract you when (s)he realizes that you're in the middle of something important (lane merging, evasive maneuvers, etc.) The person on the other end of the phone has no concept of that.

I'm all for this - no one can talk on the phone and drive safely in any setting - I don't care what kind of multi-tasker you may believe that you are.

  • 12 votes
#1.41 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:19 PM EST

A person can't talk hands free? Does this mean that it will become illegal for a driver to speak to passengers in a vehicle?

A person dies every five minutes from prescription drugs, funny how nothing is being done about that!

http://www.alternet.org/health/147318/100,000_americans_die_each_year_from_prescription_drugs,_while_pharma_companies_get_rich/

This seems to be more of a privacy war.

  • 4 votes
#1.42 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:19 PM EST

Emanuelle is incorrect. Studies tend to show that talking on a cell phone is actually MORE distracting than talking to a live passenger. Although, having passengers IS also distracting, which is why many places restrict new drivers from carrying passengers for up to a year after they first get a license.

I hope this becomes an ENFORCED law everywhere, but I really wish we'd just get serious about making sure people are competent drivers before we give them licenses in the first place. If I were in charge, there wouldn't be any traffic problems anywhere because about 70% of the people on the road today wouldn't be licensed tomorrow.

  • 9 votes
#1.43 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:20 PM EST

"what about just poor drivers in general?"

Cellphone usage just makes them worse. 20 years ago, when I drove to find out what was wrong with an erratic, sluggish or unresponsive car, the driver was old or drunk. Today, most of the time, the driver has a cellphone in one hand. This same observation applies to pedestrians crossing the street, crosswalk or not.

  • 4 votes
#1.44 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:20 PM EST

Most of the studies I have seen look at accidents and see if there was any cell phone usage, and then immediately associate the cell phone with the accident. When study was done on the statistics of accidents between states with the ban and those without, there was no significant statistical difference. One of the big problems with this country is that people do not know how to run a good scientific test. Americans tend to be distracted drivers in general, in part because the speed limit is slow enough so people multitask, even if it is just daydreaming. If you want to disallow cell phone usage, why not also disallow the driver either talking with somebody else in the car, or being talked to. Of course maybe then the driver will just fall asleep from bordom. Another knee-jerk idea from a stupid government made more stupid by the president, like the one not allowing teenagers access to morning after pill over the counter.

  • 4 votes
#1.45 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:20 PM EST

I don't understand the issue about using a hands free Bluetooth while driving. How is that different from talking to a passenger sitting next to you?

  • 1 vote
#1.46 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:20 PM EST

Next step mandate 100% single passenger vehicles.

Have any of you complaining about hands-free phone calls ever tried to transport children (and/or child-like adults)? In my experience, the associated distraction level is actually worse than hands-free. I can just shut-up/hang-up if traffic conditions change, but I can't "turn off" the kids.

Also, I travel a great deal for work. Those of you that don't understand how integrated the 24/7 expectation of availability by cell-phone for business travelers apparently have nice office jobs requiring little travel, work from home, etc. Oh and the suggestions that you "just pull over" must also come from the same crew. Yes, 20 years ago we got by without said calls - of course those of you saying that also don't know the statistics behind the economy and efficiency improvements - At this point it is an expectation of business - you have to make the appointment AND be available while in transit.

One other observation - when driving long distances, people tend to tune out and let the sub-concious take over the driving (are you really 100% focused on driving on long trips? really?). What is the difference between distracted driving and sub-consious driving? Someone show me the study that has compared the two? I bet it hasn't been done, but I bet the reactoin time would be similar. Next step mandated rest stops every 20 minutes.

  • 10 votes
#1.47 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:20 PM EST

Ban cars. Inefficient, polluting, deadly.

  • 2 votes
#1.48 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:21 PM EST

People are going to use their cell phones in cars, no matter what. The hands free laws make sense because they provide awareness and a reasonable outlet to safely do what people will do anyway.

This total ban is another one of those "one size fits all" approaches that takes things too far. Some drivers will make stupid decisions, regardless. What is the difference in a hands free phone call and the driver having a conversation with a passenger? Or a parent yelling at their kids in the backseat?

  • 1 vote
#1.49 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:22 PM EST

@ORB 1943

Agreed, and since driving is a privilege and not a right, the civil liberatarian fringe can STFU. I don't need my car journeys to be put at risk by some yabbering dimwit.

Well you seem to feel it is YOUR right. That's pretty much what you're saying after all. You want to ban what others are doing because it could potentially interfere with what you want to do.

  • 1 vote
#1.50 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:23 PM EST

500 hundred people die every year just getting out of bed in the morning.

Ban beds.

  • 9 votes
#1.51 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:23 PM EST

Jahmekan -- Distracted Driving is already penalized in most areas, especially texting. If you are at fault in an accident, police can check your phone records and you will probably get sued as well. For this reason alone, I avoid it just like I do a DUI.

Every time I am behind a driver with inconsistent speed, they are always on their phone. I don't care what business they think is so important, because ultimately they inconvenience all the other drivers who have important business too.

I support this law -- otherwise I say lighten up on DUIs, because it's the same risk. Actually texting could be worse than a drink or two.

  • 8 votes
#1.52 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:24 PM EST

How many yeears have vehicles had car radio's? Best outlaw them as well!

  • 2 votes
#1.53 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:26 PM EST

Jack

The evidence is in. Even "hands-free" is distracted driving and substantially increases accident rates. "Hands-free" devices are not measurably safer than hand-held units.

  • 6 votes
#1.54 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:29 PM EST

Studies have proven that the problem with hands-free is not that you have, or do not have, use of your hands. It is still distracting because when you talk on the phone, your mind uses a different part of the brain, that takes away from concentrating on the road.

In other words, it is the talking on the phone, not the phone itself, that is the problem.

  • 10 votes
#1.55 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:29 PM EST

Emanuelle is incorrect. Studies tend to show that talking on a cell phone is actually MORE distracting than talking to a live passenger. Although, having passengers IS also distracting, which is why many places restrict new drivers from carrying passengers for up to a year after they first get a license.

Can I get a link to these studies proving that speaking on bluetooth is as distracting as a passenger, in particular a toddler, infant, or both? Because I've driven with my toddler and infant in the same car, and I think they would drive a nun to the point of distraction and wanting to riot after an hour between all the "Mom, Mom, Mom"'s and stealing of toys, throwing of toys, crying, whining, questions, music requests, etc.

Not to mention how will they enforce this? Are they going to pull over people who look like they are talking to themselves in their car?

  • 5 votes
#1.56 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:32 PM EST

Ridiculous regualtions.

Lets take Pennsylvania. •From 2003 to 2006, car accidents from cell phone use lead to 50 deaths across the state of Pennsylvania.

Thats 15 a year. Assume similar rates give or take for all fifty states... comes to about 850 people across all fifty states over a year.

850 people out of 300 million (+) Americans.

Hardly an epidemic.

  • 2 votes
#1.57 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:33 PM EST

Wake up2840 - cell phone use or other electronic device use while driving has easily taken the lead in stupid behavior and it absolutely has deadly consequences. I am elated by this news that our nation is finally getting serious about the need to disallow cell phone use while a vehicle is moving. I travel at 5am when there is little traffic, and nearly always see at least one vehicle weaving back and forth in and across lanes. Drunk driver? That used to be the case. Almost every time it proves to be some idiot playing with their phone. I'm tired of it.

  • 5 votes
#1.58 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:35 PM EST

This has got to be one of the most dumbest laws ever though of. What's next watching you take a piss in a public restroom so they can see if you are trying to steal something? I am so livid about this! I cannot stand these people that make these decisions. Like I have ALWAYS said, it ALWAYS takes over thousands of lives to be lost before something gets fixed. If this ends up happening, why didn't they incorporate it when they made the "no texting" law? I even said myself, "Why no texting, but your still able to talk on your cellphone"? Like I said, I don't agree with this law in either case. I can concur of not using your cellphone against your ear, however, what the hell is the difference whether you are talking to someone in the car or on a bluetooth device, it's the same damn thing. What about when you have kids in the car that are constantly yelling and screaming. These people make me sick and I cannot believe what our society has turned into. Pretty soon, you wont have any privacy whatsoever!!!

  • 2 votes
#1.59 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:36 PM EST

This will make no difference. Hands free / voice activation has made in-car phone calls as safe as can be-- safer than, say, changing the radio station or checking that dash-mounted GPS you got for Christmas last year. What about those folks who just have to eat that taco right away? Or how about that soccer mom with a van full of unruly tweens? An in-car distraction is an in-car distraction no matter what-- and you can't legislate that away.

My wife just bought a new car and it has built in bluetooth, hands-free, voice activated phone compatibility. You want to just legislate that safety feature into a crime? Kia won't be too happy about that...

  • 3 votes
#1.60 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:36 PM EST

I fully believe being on the phone is less a distraction that a screaming kid in the car.

What about those people that play those damn air drums?

  • 3 votes
#1.61 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:38 PM EST

Now wait, I have blue tooth, what if I am driving to work and my alarm company calls and says my house was broken into? What about police who use cell phones instead of CBs now? I pay my insurance and have plenty of coverage if I kill someone or their brats they are covered for their loss. This is a crock of crap!!!!!

    #1.62 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:38 PM EST

    Before we get to this law, Outlaw radios in cars, children in cars, cars that can excede the speed limit. Then get to cell phones.

    • 4 votes
    #1.63 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:39 PM EST

    Also ban people from having passengers in their cars. You might be tempted to talk to them. Ban children especially!!!!!!

    • 4 votes
    #1.64 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:41 PM EST

    I can get on-board with banning both texting and cell-phone use with one exemption - if the cell phone is "hands free" that is acceptable. What I find annoying is those turning into traffic with one hand holding a phone and one hand on the wheel or, even worse, the phone kinked with the neck and the head turned sideways while they turn. Dangerous Dangerous Dangerous!!

    However, hands free is no different than talking to a passenger or someone in the back seat. Are we going to ban ALL talking within a vehicle? Then ban eating or drinking while driving? Then ban radios because people change stations and that is dangerous too? At some point you need to have the police ticket those who are "careless". But to throw everyone into one "bucket" is not fair. So hands-free should be okay but otherwise use of cell phones or texting should be banned.

    • 1 vote
    #1.65 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:41 PM EST

    I won't hold my breath waiting for the current members of Congress to pass legislation to curb distractions from electronic devices. They can't even curb their own distractions of sending their Twitter tweets during the State of the Union speech! The members of the US Congress exhibit the symptoms of 12-year-old children with ADD. Is it any wonder why our Republic is circling the drain?

    • 8 votes
    #1.66 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:44 PM EST

    WMG: You are right on with hands-free. I replaced my "factory" radio with a Pioneer with bluetooth and built in phone use. My iPhone syncs as soon as I get in the car. When a call comes in I can see on the radio who is calling and press a button to answer. Then speak normally with two hands on the wheel and fully aware of my surroundings. "Hands-Free" should be okay but holding a phone to the ear while driving I am okay in banning. Very unsafe.

    • 1 vote
    #1.67 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:44 PM EST

    I think the kid in this video did just fine talking on the phone while driving. It was the instructors that were going to cause him to wreck....

      #1.68 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:46 PM EST

      army-3854635 wrote "How many accidents happened where no one was talking on cell phones? I am willing to bet it is far higher than the amount attributed to cell phones."

      Would you be willing to apply this to driving while drunk, driving with audio headphones, driving while watching a DVD screen? The issue is about cell-phone usage impairing driving.

      • 1 vote
      #1.69 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:47 PM EST

      Truckers have been using cb radio's for decades. Who is really feeling being threatened by the use of cell phones?

      • 1 vote
      #1.70 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:47 PM EST

      I pulled up next to a guy on his way to work (I'm assuming) with a newspaper resting against his steering wheel and he was reading it while driving! I've seen women putting on make up and a dude eating cereal on the freeway! And, once I saw a passenger doing something to the male driver while driving (take one guess).

      We can't fix stupid. Yes, I believe phone usage just makes one more distraction so yes, please let's do something about it, but we can't do anything about all the other crap people attempt while driving!!!

      • 1 vote
      #1.71 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:48 PM EST

      Cut to the chase ban driving... It's really the only responsible thing to do and if it saves even one life it's worth it.

      • 2 votes
      #1.72 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:50 PM EST

      We are slowly morphing into a communist nation where we think we need yet another law in place to protect us from ourselves.

      • 6 votes
      #1.73 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:51 PM EST

      you know what really pisses me off? Those damn deer (dogs and turtles do the same), they run across the road completely self absorbed and cause accidents. You know how many people they get killed? I think we should create a law that states animals are not allowed to cross roads in the name of safety and if they can't follow the law, we build 15 foot fences along every road.

      Because it is all in the name of safety.

      • 4 votes
      #1.74 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:55 PM EST

      Warning, government morons at work, and the morons in congress are sure to jump on board. Just
      kidding, of course, not that they aren’t all a bunch of morons because they are, but this will never happen.

      Why? Because they are asking the impossible and this can never be implemented. Disabling portable devices except for GPS but allowing phone use in an emergency. How’s that going to work? The answer is, it’s not. What about passengers in the vehicle? Are their electronic devices to be disabled as well?

      The conclusion is that only morons would mandate the completely unworkable and most likely Impossible.

      • 1 vote
      #1.75 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:56 PM EST

      "DrDrGimmetheNews(good song btw!), the article is about distracted drivers and the finger being pointed at the use of phones in the car, including hands free, being a distraction and danger."

      No, the article is about banning the use of handheld devices while driving, not all the multiple things that a person MAY do that are distracting while they are driving. No one is saying that doing other things is not distracting, but stating that there should be no regulation on the use of handheld devices while driving because there are no laws banning OTHER distracting things while driving, is a specious argument at best. That would be like saying we shouldn't have drinking and driving laws because being tired and driving is just as dangerous (it is!) and there are no laws prohibiting sleep-deprived driving.

      And yes, it is a good song.

      • 2 votes
      #1.76 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:57 PM EST

        #1.77 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:01 PM EST

        Please, please, please make it happen! In the past month:

        1. I have been behind a 70ish man driving 35MPH, then 60MPH, then 35 MPH while weaving all over the road - and a mtn road at that!

        2. Then there was the woman who almost rear-ended me: she had a handicap notification hanging from her rearview mirror with her right hand holding a cell phone to her ear, talking away like she was at home on the sofa and a dog(!!!) in her lap looking out of the left window! Who knows where her left hand was! She was probably driving with her knees!

        3. The the traffic light texter. It took 1 and then 2 cars honking to get him to go thru the green light!

        4. Interstate weavers: 7 on my last trip and it was only 100 miles!

        People can whine all they want to, but there are not enough people in America who can talk on the phone and drive at the same time.

        PARK IT !!! If you need to talk on the phone 24/7, stay home! Most of it is idle chatter anyway!

        Bring on a device that cuts the signal! If you need to talk, get out of the f'n vehicle!

        • 2 votes
        #1.78 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:04 PM EST

        Everyone is missing the point that the NTSB is obviously being bribed by the GPS manufacturers. (Garmin, etc) The story says that at some point, they want to ban usage of cell phones for anything other than emergency calls, but GPS's are OK to use. I currently use my Android phone for my GPS when I travel. If this ever gains traction, (which I still doubt it would, nationwide at least) I would be forced to by a stand-alone GPS device if I wanted to use one in my car. I read several stories about GPS companies losing money and trying to branch out in to different areas, maybe this is their way of fighting back and making sure their devices don't become irrelevant. ;)

        On a serious note, I can understand banning holding your cell phone and talking, and texting is worse, but bluetooth devices should be allowed. I can even voice-to-text via bluetooth if someone insists on texting me while I'm in the car.

        • 2 votes
        #1.79 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:05 PM EST

        Talking with passengers whether in the front or back seats IS AS DISTRACTING as talking on a cell phone!! If you take your eyes off the road, an accident can occur in mere seconds. REQUIRE all cell phones to automatically be quelled if the motor is on and the transmission is NOT in park mode. Retroactive mandatory equipment if required (necessary to get new tags and requirement that if disabled, lost of tags.).

        Additionally, start requiring a revue of driving laws EVERY time that a License is renewed. There are far too many idiots driving on our roads and this even covers police, fire, and ambulances.

        Worst Drivers: Headlights not on when required. Improper lane changes - no turn signal before or after passing another vehicle. No wipers on when required. Cell phones in use while driving. No turn signals as per law when turning. Excessive volume of Radio, etc. Speeding, period. DUI/DWI Drivers, period. And drivers who try every imaginable excuse when pulled over.

          #1.80 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:06 PM EST

          DrDr, there are actually laws about sleep-deprived driving, they are called careless or reckless driving. And you know what they can be used for people talking on the phone. If Mr. Police officer sees a car swerving or crossing lines or whatever, Mr. Police officer can pull you over and give you a ticket.

          Now if I happen to be on the phone and Mr. Police officer sees me driving fine, well why do we need a law for people that are driving fine?

          Oh wait I know that answer, because it makes Mr. DrDr feel good.

            #1.81 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:09 PM EST

            ok so I've seen many of you on here today complaining in the past about the govt making the decision to make planes safer through the TSA and how unconstiutional it is. Yet you are on today's post arguing that they should be stepping in to make us safer.???

            So it's ok for them to step in here, but not there? That makes no sense at all. Either they are responsbible for our safety or their not. Which one is it?

            • 1 vote
            #1.82 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:11 PM EST

            Kayner, you have figured them it.

            When you have no real belief system (not talking religion) you can't have a consistent message or thoughts, unless consistent means "makes you feel good in the here and now"

              #1.83 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:16 PM EST

              Will they find a way to disable my hamburger and fries while I'm trying to eat it while I drive?

                #1.84 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:16 PM EST

                I regularly drive through the area, and am thus familiar with the site of the accident, which finally caused this law to be proposed. Two people were killed for no other reason than a texting driver who smashed into two school buses and a semi. The highway approaching the accident site is straight and level for at least a mile, and there were caution warnings all over the place because of ongoing construction. I feel no remorse for the text guy who died as a result of his stupidity; but the other casualty was an innocent kid on a school outing. That's tragic, and this law might have prevented it......pass it, and to hell with the idiots who can't function for ten minutes without some inane phone call or text message.

                • 4 votes
                #1.85 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:19 PM EST

                I agree with most of the people here, banning hands free is idiotic. What if a cop drivesd by one of those "in-car rock stars" who are singing? whoops akward.

                • 1 vote
                #1.86 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:21 PM EST

                I am ALL FOR THE BAN....2 months ago in my small town,a 16 year old girl ran a red light and was hit broad side, on the drivers side and was killed....WHY? She was on her cell phone....not texting,jut talking.I saw the wreckage just minutes after it happened and it wasn't a pretty site.

                I think if anyone would have a child,or loved one killed,or seriously injured,they may change their minds when it comes to this ban.

                What is so important that you need to talk while driving? I thought that's why answering machines were invented,so you wouldn't miss an important call.

                • 4 votes
                #1.87 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:21 PM EST

                Culling, what better way to reduce the numbers of stupid. Keep the phones.

                • 1 vote
                #1.88 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:26 PM EST

                "Safety advocates have long called for such a ban to reduce the phenomenon of distracted driving, which the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says killed 3,092 people in 2010."

                Tobacco, firearms, alcohol, fat food all kill a whole lot more each year. Where's the recommendations to ban them?

                • 2 votes
                #1.89 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:27 PM EST

                The passengers in a car pay attention to how the driver is driving because they have a vested interest in getting to the destination alive - the person on the other end of a cell call could care less! We Americans have stopped using common sense just as we have stopped using common courtesy. Grow up! Play with your toys at home! No life is worth a cell call!

                • 3 votes
                #1.90 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:29 PM EST

                The worst are the soccer moms in the mini-vans. When ever you see some idiot driver, it's always a clueless fool too busy talking on their cell phone instead of paying attention to driving.

                • 1 vote
                #1.91 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:30 PM EST

                As a resident of a state that has banned cell phone use while driving, I can attest to the fact that bans such as these are unenforceable. I see people on their phones driving all the time. Creating unenforceable laws simply gets people in the habit of breaking the law - not the kind of habit a civilized society wants to create.

                • 2 votes
                #1.92 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:34 PM EST

                Emanuelle

                Emergency is a broad brush. Is it an emergency if my daughter has a fever and I'm on the phone with the pediatrician making an appointment? To me, yes. To someone else probably not. That said, an emergency does not require 911 assistance 100% of the time and to think so is fairly asinine.

                Pull over and call the pediatrician. How much time does that take? Two seconds? If an emergency does not require 911 assistance, then it's not an emergency. A worried parent. cellphoning a doctor, while driving is not an attentive driver.

                • 3 votes
                #1.93 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:36 PM EST

                Yeah, Bear Cat, you are right. Only yuppies are aware of their surroundings when they are in the car iMessaging. :)

                  #1.94 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:40 PM EST

                  Of course you are not giving your full attention to driving while on the phone, bluetooth or not. I was rear ended while stopped in traffic on the freeway by someone who I believe was on the phone. This was before they became really prevalent. my current policy is as follows:

                  1. if in an accident ( That i didn't cause) ask for an ambulance ride.

                  2. on the way to the hospital, call a lawyer and ask to have the other parties cell records supoened.

                  3. if they are found to have been on the phone, ask law enforcement to charge reckless endangerment or better yet depraved indifference.

                  4. sue the bejesus out of them

                  5. retire on the coast

                  Off yer meds and on the phone- what a way to drive!

                    #1.95 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:47 PM EST

                    Since talking on your Bluetooth is the same as talking to someone in the car, maybe they will ban that at the same time. That way I don't have to listen to my wife Bitch about going the wrong way!

                    • 3 votes
                    #1.96 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:56 PM EST

                    After spending 10 years on the road as a professional driver, I can tell you, this ruling is crap. Singling out cell phones as the "big evil" is ridiculous. How about singling out stupid drivers? There are far more stupid drivers causing problems than cell phones. It is the same mentality as "guns kill people." People kill people using guns, (and a large assortment of other items as well.) It is the stupid drivers who are, while driving, eating, drinking, (legal and illegal drinks) primping, reading a book, surfing the net, disciplining kids, and other things I care not share on a public site in addition to celling and texting. They don't do it well, and they get away with it until they finally crash.

                    If you are wanting to outlaw one distraction, in all fairness, you need to outlaw them all. But that is somewhat stupid as well, as there is another group of people, who can handle normal distractions and drive at the same time and never had a problem. So we are going to penalize everyone because of the stupid people, instead of making the stupid people do better.

                    Additionally, despite what think, you can't legislate away all risk involved in driving a vehicle. There is risk in all actions, no matter how many rules you make. And, at a certain point, the rules become a hindrance rather than a help. So many in this country have forsaken common sense. If we had more common sense, rather than more legislation than we could ever remember, we would all be better off.

                    • 1 vote
                    #1.97 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:12 PM EST

                    Hendy329 - Great point. How many accidents are caused by someone eating or drinking while driving.

                    This is taken too far - another case of liberties lost. I have blue-tooth system that when linked to my cell does not require me to take me eyes off the road.Let's see some proof that this is more dangerous than someone just driving.

                    • 1 vote
                    #1.98 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:19 PM EST

                    I don't think a nationwide ban on hands free mobile usage is going to happen any time soon. If nothing else because the party of any president who signs such a bill will feel the wrath of the voters at the polls in the next election and the wrath of (suddenly non)donors. This effects everyone, esp. folks who work and tend to vote, every day - not good political move to screw with that. It would also result in a reduction in GDP as people with commutes or driving between job sites/customers could not get some of their phone calls done while driving - esp. hard hit would be those in residential/small business construction and repair trades and "on the road" sales people.

                    Nor do I think such a ban is necessary. However talking on a cell phone just prior to/during an accident should be admissible evidence in a civil case regarding an accident (which, I assume it already is). Also auto insurance companies should be free to include clauses in their policies that raise collision deductibles or even eliminate collision coverage if the driver of the car was in a phone conversation at the time (obviously, at least minimum levels of liability coverage could not be contingent on not using a cell phone as that would impact the victims).

                    However, talking on a mobile while driving is quite different than talking to another (well behaved) adult whose physically in your car (esp. in the passenger seat rather than the back seat). The passenger is aware of the environment because they can see it and completely understands as traffic slows down in front when the driver "drops them" for a moment -- and the driver knows the passenger understands the situation without any explanation. However, when talking on a phone, the other party has no idea why the caller who is driving has suddenly "gone quiet" for a couple seconds as they deal with a traffic issue and, even more importantly, the driver also knows that the other party is unaware of this and either will try to avoid "going quiet" or will feel a need to take a specific action such as saying "whoa, something's happening ahead here". Similarly, even if the other party is talking when something happens, the driver is more likely to try to listen/understand and deal with the driving situation (likely less successfully than doing just one) -- again because the driver knows the other party has no idea what's going on and will continue talking and it's awkward to tell someone "I was ignoring you for the past 10 seconds, can you please repeat what you said".

                      #1.99 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:21 PM EST

                      After reading the NTSB report, the main cause of this accident was A: The driver of a pickup truck, age 19, who had been texting some minutes before the accident, and who had received a text message at about the same time as the accident, who was also fatigued from cumulative sleep deprivation, failed to notice that the traffic approaching a construction zone was stopped in the right lane, and he hit the back end of a stopped truck tractor.

                      Then B: The drivers of two school buses full of kids heading to Six Flags Amusement Park also did not notice that the traffic had stopped ahead and they both ran into the crash ahead. The first school bus hit the pickup, flipping it on top of the stopped truck tractor, and then landed on top of the pickup and the back of the stopped truck tractor. Then the 2nd school bus crashed into the back of the first school bus.

                      There were a few things that the report did not say, such as whether the accident occurred before or after passing any or how many road signs warning of the pending construction zone. In my 30-years of commercial professional driving experience, Missouri has been lax in the past in providing enough warning of impending construction zones, and this accident was made much more severe because two professional bus drivers had the intention of passing slowed or stopped traffic at a construction merging situation, a practice which some but not all States have enacted harsh laws to prevent such dangerous last-minute construction zone passing behavior. Allegedly the first bus driver was distracted by a commercial bus that was stopped on the shoulder at the original accident scene and did not ascertain that the traffic ahead had stopped.

                      So, the possibility is that the text messaging that the kid did before the accident was inconsequential, though a distraction from receiving a text message at about the time of the accident could have been a factor in the original accident. How many people here have ever been distracted when driving when their cell phone rang, or by any number of other in-car distractions? Part of the responsibility for the original accident could have been the fact that the kid was fatigued too. The 99% reason that two people were killed in this accident, including the young driver, was the fact that one school bus driver wasn't paying enough attention to what was going on ahead of him at speed, and the other school bus driver was following too closely. Not only that, but this accident was not the first or even the second time that multiple school buses have had an accident when the following buses were following too closely. If my memory serves me correctly, there was an accident involving several school buses on US 30 on the hill coming down into Gettysburg from the west more than 20 years ago that happened because the following bus drivers were all following too closely.

                      So let's blame everyone in America who has their cell phone in the car with them while they are driving for a fatal accident that was 99% the fault of two professional school bus drivers!!! I'll agree that texting ought to be illegal while driving, and that generally cell phones without handsfree devices should be banned from use while driving too. But, it is quite a stretch to blame this accident entirely on someone who had texted some minutes before the original accident occurred, or even to blame the subsequent accident on some luckless kid receiving a text message at the time of the original accident.

                        #1.100 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:27 PM EST

                        To me it's really simple, you don't have the right to risk MY life because you feel you have a god given right to have a phone conversation (hands freed or not) while driving.

                        You need to talk? Pull over. The accident stats for cell phone use while driving are the same or worse as DUI.

                        • 3 votes
                        #1.101 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:44 PM EST

                        We should ban putting on make-up while driving, eating while driving, opening and drinking a soda while driving, adjusting the stereo or changing CDs while driving, adjusting the heater/ac in the vehicle while driving, operating GPS units while driving, looking at billboards while driving, reading maps while driving, unpackaging and inserting a piece of gum into your mouth while driving, and talking to passengers while driving as well. These are all things that people do that provide distractions and could potentiall cause an accident. The government must protect us. Why not pass a law outlawing distractions of any kind while driving.

                        In all seriousness, distracted driving has been a problem since the invention of the automobile. Even if we passed laws that required people to drive alone and did not alow distractions of any kind we would still have an issue, people would then begin falling asleep.

                        • 2 votes
                        #1.102 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:49 PM EST

                        Yes, and lets have government employees follow us around 24/7. Yes..that is the answer. Each person will need at least two. One can watch the individual to be sure that they break no law, and one can watch everyone else to make sure no one else is going to enfringe on their rights.

                        OK...I agree most people aren't capable of texting and driving. It has to stop there. I have been driving since I was 16. I have never had a wreck. I have never gotten a moving violation. I don't need anyone else telling me how to drive or what I can or cannot do while I'm driving. Yes, driving is a privelage, but I saved money and bought my car, paid my sales taxes, paid my property taxes, got the thing inspected and licensed, got myself insured and licensed, now what? They are going to tell me what to do in my own car and how to do it? I thought this was the land of the free and the home of the brave. I do realize that with some folks on the road you need to be a little brave to drive anyway, but it is the risk we take. I'm sick of our lawmakers telling us how to run our private lives, while they do what they want. Yes, people, if you can't have a converstion without paying attention to what is going on around you while you are driving, then hang up the damn phone. It is on you, though. If you think you can have an argument without running anyone over or ramming someone, then go for it. But if you do be prepared to pay for the consequences, which may include manslaughter. Life is risky business and we will, ALL of us, someday die.

                          #1.103 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:53 PM EST

                          I would like to think that most of us use cell phones responsibly while driving. There is wide evidence that many of us do not. I fail to see why all should face serious restrictions because of the recklessness of a minority.

                          If you are seen or reported driving erratically, the officer should ask for for your D.L, registration AND cell phone. The same for all drivers involved in an accident. A quick check of last calls would tell the tale. Cheap electronic devices provided to law enforcement would easily detect a cell phone hidden by liars.

                          Treat careless cell phone drivers like drunk drivers. If the cell phone proves to be a factor in reckless(impaired) driving, the penalty should be just as harsh as drunk driving. The results are often the same.

                          • 1 vote
                          #1.104 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:21 PM EST

                          I stay as far away from someone who is talking on their cellphone as I can. Usually, they are not keeping up with traffic, which is irritating. Not being clever at driving and dialing, I tried it once and was shocked to find that I had let my attention wander for that period of time. I was grateful that the other drivers were paying attention. I'm in favor of banning cellphone use while car is in motion altogether.

                          • 1 vote
                          #1.105 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:55 PM EST

                          Ya hit the nail right on the head Bowman!!!!!!

                            #1.106 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:58 PM EST

                            CommonSense-3546331

                            Cop: Let me check with the 911 dispatch in the area to see if they received your call.

                            36!#1.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:48 PM CST

                            Cop: Hold on baby, I gotta stop this idiot driving in front of me talking their a cell-phone!

                            • 1 vote
                            #1.107 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:32 PM EST

                            I am as liberal as it gets, but the more I live the more I question whether we are really becoming a government controlled society. It starts with cell phones, next will be navigation systems, conversations between passengers and driver, then the number of people driving in the car, forcing manufacturers to install breathalizers, and the list goes on!

                            When is this madness going to end? No end in sight of you ask me.

                            • 3 votes
                            #1.108 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:32 PM EST

                            SanAndresMan, you are right on! We lose tiny bits of our freedom day by day and before we realize it, it will be gone. We can not let this happen!

                            • 1 vote
                            #1.109 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:50 PM EST

                            I think we need to outlaw guys over 55 driving. Now that I have exceeded this age, when I am driving and have to take a leak, pull over and get out of the way....quickly........

                              #1.110 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:49 PM EST

                              Typical move from the tyrannical fascists in the US government. We should be allowed to take our own risks and text and drive. The government shouldn't be allowed to dictate if we can use phones in our own vehicles or not. We need to accept individual responsibility and remove the mentality that government should interfere in our lives. It is extremely anti-freedom in nature.

                              • 2 votes
                              #1.111 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:30 PM EST
                              Reply

                              Sounds like this would mean no two-way radios, no CBs, no communication with people or entities outside of the vehicle, police would have to stop and get out of the vehicle to use their radio. What's next - no talking to passengers? Reminds me of my dad "Am I going to have to pull over on the freeway?"

                              • 108 votes
                              #2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:26 PM EST

                              take out the am/fm radios and cd players to...

                              • 45 votes
                              #2.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:39 PM EST

                              Dear Extremists,

                              I only read about cell phones.

                              • 58 votes
                              #2.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:45 PM EST
                              Comment author avatarDarrell Malczewskivia Facebook

                              Exactly! And unenforcable. There's nothing wrong with using Bluetooth, which is about as distracting as singing along to the radio.

                              • 63 votes
                              #2.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:50 PM EST

                              commonsense, here is the first sentence from the article: "The government's transportation safety experts recommended Tuesday to ban all American drivers from using portable electronic devices — including cell phones, even if you use a hands-free device." I do believe that would include anything that can be removed such as the CB or two-way raido.

                              • 37 votes
                              #2.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:51 PM EST

                              But who's to say what "distracted" driving is? Plenty of people could be distracted by eating, putting on makeup, their screaming child in the backseat, the song they are rocking out to on the radio, even THINKING about things can be distracting...and the list goes on. There is no way to police this. It opens the doors to a whole lot of negative things.

                              • 91 votes
                              #2.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:51 PM EST

                              Lovely. So if NTSB is taken seriously, parents can't get calls from kids stranded at school, people can't call for directions if lost, doctors can't receive emergency summons, you can't call 911 to report that car following you, etc. PC Schmucks.

                              • 42 votes
                              #2.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:54 PM EST

                              It's easy to stop the cell use and texting while driving. The providers already have the capability since gps's are in all cell phones to stop transmissions while above a certain speed. They just don't do it because they loose money

                              • 17 votes
                              #2.7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:57 PM EST

                              I remember it saying:

                              Besides calling for government action, the NTSB also urged consumer electronics manufacturers to figure out a way to "disable the functions of portable electronic devices within reach of the driver when a vehicle is in motion."

                              Portable electronic device: cell phone, ipod, cd player, handheld gaming platform, radios... There are a lot of portable electronic devices that would have to be banned.

                              • 11 votes
                              #2.8 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:58 PM EST

                              All these experts are going to be replaced in a year after the 2012 election. But they had to push that report and request for new legislation and more power and intrusion by government into your life before their time is up.

                              • 35 votes
                              #2.9 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:59 PM EST

                              You are not emotional while listening to the radio - but talking to your boss/partner/mother - that is another story. People become emotionally distracted. Almost every time I see someone driving in a dangerous manner are either drunk, elderly or on the phone - 95% of the time they are on the phone.

                              • 29 votes
                              #2.10 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:00 PM EST

                              Might as well take out the speed odometer too! oh yea and all the dummy lights. Good old U S A land of the free and home of the f---ed.

                              • 16 votes
                              #2.11 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:00 PM EST

                              Wake up

                              The FM radio isn't the problem. There have been radios in cars for decades, but the radios today require you to look at them to tune or adjust them. The old radios were push button and simple to adjust, the new ones are to complex for that. Also the loud bass boomers have to go. There is no way to know or hear a siren with those things on.

                              CB's should be treated just like a cellphone, but I disagree with hands free devices. This isn't a problem for me, but I won't use them.

                              I can listen to my radio with a light volume level and drive, but won't answer the phone while driving. My mind is on the road, sometimes I don't hear the music even with the radio on low enough so I can hear it. In my opinion and experience the radio or CD isn't the big problem.

                              • 15 votes
                              #2.12 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:04 PM EST

                              What about all of the police and state troopers who blow you off of the road, yes, greatly exceeding the speed limit, with no lights or sirens on while talking on their phones.

                              What about passengers using a cell phone. Will phones be equipped with some type of device to differentiate between the driver and passengers???

                              This is a double-edged sword. When passing new laws, the law-makers and enforcers must be held to the same standard. What is good for the goose is also good for the gander.

                              • 38 votes
                              #2.13 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:04 PM EST

                              With all of the technology available today, why can't they install a device in each car that scrambles any mobile device receiver as long as the car is moving. Just pull over and stop if you need to make or receive a call.

                              • 15 votes
                              #2.14 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:09 PM EST

                              How about the government stay out of our lives and do what they are supposed to do.

                              • 69 votes
                              #2.15 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:20 PM EST

                              what about a GPS?, they are distracting. Yes, those gauges and lights need to go as well. You can not pass a law to stop people from doing anything stupid while they are driving, because they will find a way.

                              • 8 votes
                              #2.16 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:22 PM EST

                              i agree with no texting while driving, and no talking on the phone while driving. but if you have a bluetooth then you should be able to use that. years ago we was stoped in traffic and go slammed from behind and sandwiched inbetween a uhaul type truck and a big ass work van. the guy in his company vehical was talking on his cell phone to his BOSS when he hit us. Guy even admitted to the cops he was on his cell phone. people like that should have there right to drive taken away for so many months or a scrambler should be installed in there vehical so they cant use there cell phone. luckily we only walked away with a totaled car, and EXTREMELY horrible back problems that still affect us 6 yrs later. But banning cell phones all together is insane. just require a bluetooth and if someone causes an accident punish them with more than a little ticket. accidents happen with or without cell phones..maybe they should stop letting people over the age of 70 drive cars around...

                              • 9 votes
                              #2.17 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:31 PM EST

                              While I understand what they're trying to do.. and I agree that texting and physically being on your phone is a distraction, I don't understand the deal with the hands free devices. How would talking on your phone with a hands free device be any more distracting than talking to a passenger in your car or listening to the radio? Are we going to ban talking in the car, as well?

                              I agree with coming down harder on those who are causing accidents because of texting or screwing around with their phone. But the rest is pretty silly and likely unncessary.

                              • 29 votes
                              #2.18 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:32 PM EST

                              So in the name of safety some of you are willing to give up your freedom of talking on the phone while seating in the back seat of a car?

                              Because if the car is going 50 mph, it is going 50 in all the seats in the car.

                              Imagine how stupid you have to be to say that is should be illegal at best or impossible at worst to talk on your cell phone in the back seat of a car.

                              • 18 votes
                              #2.19 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:44 PM EST

                              Commonsense read the first paragraph:

                              The government's transportation safety experts recommended Tuesday to ban all American drivers from using portable electronic devices — including cell phones, even if you use a hands-free device.

                              • 5 votes
                              #2.20 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:45 PM EST

                              Cut to the chase ban driving... It's really the only responsible thing to do and if it saves even one life it's worth it. Anything less than banning driving is people who don't care about other people.

                              • 21 votes
                              #2.21 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:52 PM EST

                              With all of the technology available today, why can't they install a device in each car that scrambles any mobile device receiver as long as the car is moving. Just pull over and stop if you need to make or receive a call.

                              Absolutely not! You go ahead and pull over on the Interstate, as long as we're talking about "safety." How about banning in-person conversation with passengers? "Shhh hang on, sorry, I have to pull over to talk to you." What if my passenger wants to make a call? Do I have to pull over for them, too?

                              You can't legistlate common sense and personal responsibility. Bluetooth communication devices are a huge success because they virtually eliminate the issue. It is your personal choice to not use a phone while driving, and while I can admittedly get behind legistlation concerning the use of hands-free devices, the ubiquity of device use in cars ensures this will not be enacted and is totally unenforcable. The industry has embraced hands-free, how do you eliminate it now? What a joke.

                              As long as we're in control of multi-ton steel and glass missiles traveling 60 mph+, there will be mistakes, there will be distracted drivers, there will be accidents. It is an accepted risk of getting on the road. We just weren't evolved for driving cars. Thankfully, there have been many safety measures invented to minimize the risk of injury and death in these cases. Some people are good at driving, some people are not. Bottom line: it should be the responsibility of the driver to ensure they are driving safely and to be aware of other drivers who may not be.

                              • 22 votes
                              #2.22 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:52 PM EST

                              No doubt this is another way of taking away our freedom in the disguise of safety!

                              • 14 votes
                              #2.23 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:55 PM EST

                              I'm still trying to figure out how this creates jobs...

                              • 8 votes
                              #2.24 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:58 PM EST

                              Ruby, didn't Jefferson say something about giving away freedoms for protection.

                              • 9 votes
                              #2.25 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:01 PM EST
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                              What Jefferson said was" that those that trade security for freedoms wind up with neither...". Our civilization simply will not survive the breathtaking stupidity of the Democrats...no way....

                              • 15 votes
                              #2.26 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:03 PM EST

                              "Bluetooth communication devices are a huge success because they virtually eliminate the issue."

                              Except they don't. Drivers using hands-free and hand-held mobile devices drive about as well as someone who is impaired due to alcohol. See here: http://www.distraction.gov/download/research-pdf/Comparison-of-CellPhone-Driver-Drunk-Driver.pdf

                              • 10 votes
                              #2.27 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:08 PM EST

                              As for the auto-disable talk... How could they tell if the phone was being used by the driver or not? Just cause the phone is going 60mph, it could be in use by a passenger.

                              This could all be solved if they would just make cars like in Minority Report. Then the people wouldn't have to drive on the highways, it would be all computer controlled. Then I can get back to playing Angry Birds while I'm on my way to work. ;)

                              • 6 votes
                              #2.28 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:13 PM EST

                              Except they don't. Drivers using hands-free and hand-held mobile devices drive about as well as someone who is impaired due to alcohol.

                              Thank you for the link, however I am not convinced. Where are the metrics for driver training for the participants? They each "have a license" and an average 8 years of driving experience according to the study, but beyond this baseline, what else? In most states, the requirements to obtain a driver's license are minimal. What do their driving records look like? Have any of them had advanced driver training (defensive driving, racing school, etc.)?

                              .08 is the baseline for "legal impairment," but I'd like to know what the reality is with regards to actual impairment of the participants and real world drivers alike. I don't own a breathalyzer and I avoid driving when I think I may be at risk for impairment. So I don't exactly test my own data, but the point I am trying to make is that everyone reacts differently to alcohol in different quantities and concentrations. What proportion of accidents are caused by drivers in the .08-.10 range when compared to drivers rocking a .26-.32 BAC? I see "legally" drunk and "actually" drunk as two very distinct things. The study does reveal that the average BAC in fatal accidents is .16.

                              How did the performance of the simulator compare with actual driving? Could the participants "feel" their braking in a physical manner relative to how an actual car performs, or were the responses primarily visual? I'm all for gathering data and the scientific method, but unfortunately I don't know how well these results hold up versus real-world issues.

                              • 5 votes
                              #2.29 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:37 PM EST

                              Well,here we go again. Just one more freedom to loose and no bloody common sense. The answer to the problem is a very simple one, and I believe even the knuckle heads in Washington would agree. NO HANDHELD PHONES,AND NOTHING IN THE EARS. SPEAKERS ONLY!!!!!!!! Next,they will say no conversations in the car,and no music,because this causes a distraction. This government is OUT OF CONTROL !!!!!

                              • 8 votes
                              #2.30 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:53 PM EST

                              *America* will not rest until it destroys the United States.

                              • 7 votes
                              #2.31 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:58 PM EST

                              Areas where cell phone use has been banned, and enforced, have been successful in greatly reducing "distracted driver" accidents.

                              The idiots who are yelping about this - especially the dingbats making the 10th Amendment argument - don't realize there's quite an easy way to implement such a ban nationwide. Simply tie states' compliance to Federal highway funds. Each state, in its own way, will be responsible for the legislation and enforcement, or lose some big bucks.

                              This makes even moer sense than requiring seat belts in vehicles - and efforts to enforce their use - and motorcycle helmets.

                              • 11 votes
                              #2.32 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:03 PM EST

                              KATIE..BAN DRIVERS OVER 70!!!...I AM ALMOST 70, HAVEN'T HAD AN ACCIDENT OR TICKET IN 40+ YEARS..that goes driving cars and motorcycles.how long you been driving? how long do you expect to live, enjoy your freedom of movement and all else that goes with the PRIVILEGE of driving? if you text while driving i don't think you expect to live to 70 which would exclude you from that stupid statement!i would suggest you stick that idea where the sun don't shine.

                              for those who want to get further involved with stifling my freedom....i feel we the people have had enough meddling from the government, dems and repubs. the next thing they will want is for you to pull to the side of the road to sneeze since your eyes involuntarily close for that split second.

                              they are getting way out of line with trying to fix stupid...can't be done.

                              • 8 votes
                              #2.33 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:16 PM EST

                              This should be a state issue not a federal government issue.The constsitution is the only thing that the federal government should be concerned about.

                              • 3 votes
                              #2.34 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:17 PM EST

                              Maybe this will be the last straw? Seems as though we have gotten as gutless as the russians and chinese, will we take this? I hope not.

                              • 4 votes
                              #2.35 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:19 PM EST

                              i think the goverment has to much on it's plate as is,it's hard enough for them to do what they need to do as it is!before long we want beable to do anything without a permit,or license.what happen to the freedom of right?

                              • 1 vote
                              #2.36 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:20 PM EST

                              Simple pull over to use it, what is more important a persons life or your dumb call ...

                              • 9 votes
                              #2.37 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:23 PM EST

                              This is beyond ridiculous!

                              First of all, if you can't talk and drive at the same time, you shouldn't have a license. Whether it's a cell phone or another person in the car, as long as you're not dialing, it's the same thing. Are they going to ban passengers too? At this rate, we'll have to start wearing helmets to walk down the street.

                              Banning all electronic devices? Get a grip! You can use a GPS, but screwing around with that while you're driving is as bad as dialing a phone. If they want to do something to make the devices safer, they should make hands free and voice controls standard on new cars.

                              My new Corolla has bluetooth built in so I don't have to dial anything or take my focus off the road for even a second. It also has radio controls built into the steering wheel so that I don't have to even look at the radio to adjust the volume or change the station.

                              The solution is to make more constructive changes like those which make these devices safer and easier to use without diverting driver focus. Banning them is pointless. People will use them anyway. Give people safe alternatives and they'll use them.

                              • 10 votes
                              #2.38 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:27 PM EST

                              I remember a long time ago when they were making laws that intruded on free choice and because it was something most did not have to worry about they got on the band wagon but now they are coming after YOU and cell phones and NOW there is outrage. Sorry no sympathy. it seems it only matters when others lose thieir rights.

                              • 4 votes
                              #2.39 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:32 PM EST

                              And the first person who is known to have pulled over to use his cell phone was killed when his car was hit from the rear while he was stopped on the shoulder of the highway.

                              The only way for a ban like this to be effective and fair is to test each driver. There are some of us who can talk and drive at the same time. There are many more who can not drive no matter what.

                              "Safe Drivers" are the cause of more accidents than "distracted" drivers. The problem is they are not involved in half the accidents they caused. If we get rid of all the "Safe Drivers", Americas roads would be much more safer than if you banned cell phone use.

                              And what about the cops? Based on observation in NJ, 3/4 of the Police Officers are holding using their cell phone while driving even though it is banned. We don't need yet another ineffective law to increase local government coffers.

                              When a person caused an accident, does it really matter what they were doing? If a person is distracted using the phone, s/he will find something else to be distracted by. It won't matter what the distraction was.

                              And people like me can drive better "distracted" then most drivers. Either way, it is a small percentage of the driving public that can or can not drive distracted, so why should we pay the price for others?

                              And no it is not worth a human life. But we allow Police Chases to occur, so until we have a total ban on them, I will not support any other bn on driving (except driving under the influence and texting).

                              • 1 vote
                              #2.40 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:42 PM EST

                              Gosh what a tempest in a teapot. All of those people who survived, what? 80 - 90 years without phones in cars? How did they ever do it? What a relentless hardship it must have been for them.

                              What most of your comments tell me is that you don't have the sense to even own a mobile phone let alone use it in a vehicle.

                              Tell me would you shoot a gun while talking on the phone? A car is a lethal 3000 lb weapon. If people would act in a responsible fashion this law wouldn't be necessary but you all seem to be overlooking the study that says overwhelmingly mobile phones cause accidents. And you all have the "I am an excellent driver and using a phone does not impair me" syndrome.

                              All the loser drivers must frequent a different board.

                              • 17 votes
                              #2.41 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:43 PM EST

                              Texting while driving is stupid because it is dangerous. I see people having near misses EVERYDAY, something I didn't see 15 years ago before cell phones and texting were common place. And 15 yrs ago I did a lot more driving than I do today. 9 out of 10 times if I pass the person who is not driving straight, they have a cell phone in their hand. Scientists have proven that you can not look at the road and text (or dial a phone) at the same time; it's impossible. Texting and driving is dangerous, selfish and irresponsible - but then again, we live in a nation of self absorbed individuals who feel that they have a right to do whatever they want. If you want total freedom, go live on an island. Societies have rules for a reason. No text or call is more important than a human life.

                              • 16 votes
                              #2.42 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:43 PM EST

                              They should ban smoking in automobiles, too - that's a big distraction to the driver when they light a cigarette.

                              Also sounds like you wouldn't be able to plug your ipod into your car stereo, if I am strictly interpreting what they are saying.

                              • 1 vote
                              #2.43 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:48 PM EST

                              Hi Johnny, I agree with you , here in Washington State, the current law reads is that you can't talk on the cell phone while driving unless you have a hands free device whether its blue tooth or other hands free device. those that are hard of hearing that is another matter they are excused from that law. I drive and I am hard of hearing, but I don't talk on my cell while driving, I prefer to pull over and call or check (mapquest the information) to see where I am. Most cars like Onstar is equipped as a hands free device. I think the NTSB has gone to far and have not thought things through. Most of the accidents that we had so far this week have not involved cell phones rather it has involved drugs or drinking. You never hear anything about cell phone distraction. I don't think they will get very far, since most states have their own cell phone laws. and it is very hard to enforce as well.

                                #2.44 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:50 PM EST

                                Let us not forget the GPS and touch screens installed in many cars today too. How about lap tops? This list can go on and on and it all comes down to another reason for them to stop you for any reason and issue a ticket. Big brother cares about you and loves you, here is your 500 dollar ticket thank you.

                                • 1 vote
                                #2.45 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:57 PM EST

                                b-895713: will we have to wait 15 MORE years until you stop driving altogether and we won't have to consider your unreasonable position on this matter?I think it's agreed by all that texting should be off limits. However plenty of people can engage in a conversation just fine, and if you can't that's your problem not ours.

                                  #2.46 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:01 PM EST

                                  Bit of information for all those that know they are able to talk on the phone while driving. Not everyone is you. If your the exception great. What about all the people that have a hard time walking and chewing gum at the same time. If they cannot use the phone, allowying you to is a violation of their rights. Ban them from everyone.

                                  For those that do not understand why blue tooth is included. It is give room. Take into account that banning everthing will cause problems, so they recommend everthing be banned and then allow for a few items to be permitted as give.

                                  Check the facts people. Accidents from drinking are on the decline. But the number of accidents is not going down as rapidly. Why, because someone cold sober is texting his girl to let her know they he is not coming home, he is going out with the boys. Some girl is texting her friend on the way home from work.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #2.47 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:08 PM EST

                                  MJ-1451595: The fact we're all alive, well and breathing pretty much shoots holes in your position. We drove. We took a call when it was necessary. We didn't die!

                                    #2.48 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:08 PM EST

                                    well...

                                    heres an example of where we could start cutting the national debt...get rid of the people in government coming up with these proposals...

                                    they obviousley have TOO much time on their hands.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #2.49 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:10 PM EST

                                    Well, shall we try a little common sense?

                                    We have the most people, per one hundred, in jail than any other country on earth. Are we the world's

                                    worst law breakers; or do we have too many laws?

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #2.50 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:14 PM EST

                                    Only thing to do is ban together as citizens and tell the overbearing goverment to kiss our behinds, we will not stand for it. Take your new law and stick it where the sun don't shine!

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #2.51 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:22 PM EST

                                    Since when is talking/texting on your cell phone while driving a freedom? It's more like the behavior demonstrated by so many these days that have little to no common sense. Experienced or inexperienced, driving with a cell phone stuck in your ear is distracted driving. Texting while driving is as bad as drunk driving. When you drive on public roads, you have no right to put my or my family's lives at risk. Driving without phones was never a problem, and shouldn't be a problem now.

                                    Until you own the road, use of the phone while driving is not a right.

                                    • 12 votes
                                    #2.52 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:23 PM EST

                                    For whatever reason, phone use/texting and driving DO NOT MIX! I cannot count how many idiots I encounter EVERY DAY, who are driving like jack asses, paying no attention to the world around them, as they hurtle down the highway, a menace to me and everyone else who doesn't feel the need to feel soooo self important, that they must be connected to whoever for whatever reason. KNOCK IT OFF!

                                    • 7 votes
                                    #2.53 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:31 PM EST

                                    And of course the Gov't is going to start the ban with it's own people before it does it to the citizen's ... Right?

                                    So for safety reasons, no communications devices while driving for Police, Fire, Ambulance -

                                    RIGHT?

                                    Please you know they won't do that - it's just one more thing they will reserve for themselves. Real meaning to the words Big Brother.

                                    When the Public Servants are the Masters, the Citizens are Slaves.

                                    Or - All the animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #2.54 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:35 PM EST

                                    I do not own or use a cell phone. So far as laws go, this one will be no worse than countless other ones. The problem is that the aggregate of them is oppressive. Like pills, no law is without side effects.

                                      #2.55 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:44 PM EST

                                      Wait.....

                                      Who will develop the "magic bullet" to disable all electronics in your vehicle, except for GPS devices ?

                                      OF COURSE......GE......GE......GE.

                                      Another payback by this administration.

                                        #2.56 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:45 PM EST

                                        So when the late governor Timmy Kaine shut down toilets, yes we should consider stopping morons that can’t multitask on a phone and drive,,,,,,,,,,, but not the ones that can!!! DC DEMOCRAPS!!!!!

                                          #2.57 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:49 PM EST

                                          Oh, Scott! I have been beating this drum for years!

                                          "Talking on cell phones while you are in the car is distracting."

                                          "Oh, really? And how is that different from talking to a person physically IN the car?"

                                          "Well, with a 'real" person ..."

                                          "Yeh. With a real person in the car you are tempted to actually turn and LOOK at them as you talk. So let's ban passengers. No more car pooling! And no more transporting the kids in the car. Can't be tending to their fussing and fighting." (Now there really is a big cause of too many accidents!)

                                          Where does common sense come into the equation? Nowhere, I guess. We lost that a long time ago.

                                          • 5 votes
                                          #2.58 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:53 PM EST

                                          "No call, no text, no update, is worth a human life," Deborah Hersman, chairwoman of the National Transportation Safety Board, said at a news conference in Washington.

                                          Ban __________(fill in the blank), if it saves only one human life then it is worth it.

                                          A human life, if the GDgovernment gets its way, won't be worth living.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #2.59 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:09 PM EST

                                          Before these jackasses pass anymore laws about cell phones,why do the police not enforce one about people holding cell phone up to ear and talking on it while driving? I see people always talking on cell while driving and a police car going by. Work on the that one first, STOP telling us what to do.

                                            #2.60 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:09 PM EST

                                            David-3861032

                                            It's easy to stop the cell use and texting while driving. The providers already have the capability since gps's are in all cell phones to stop transmissions while above a certain speed.

                                            Note the article specifically talks about drivers. Your plan would disable the devices while riding shotgun, or taking the bus or the train. That would piss off more than a few commuters.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #2.61 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:13 PM EST

                                            Talk about going overboard with scenarios, jeez. Seems logical to me that if you are controlling a 2000 pound vehicle then if you want to talk on the phone you should pull over.

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #2.62 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:14 PM EST

                                            Most people can't drive worth $h1t. No one drives as well when they're on the phone whether it be bluetooth or otherwise. (don't act like you're the ONE person who drives just as well because you're lying to yourself just like you think you're a good driver). Banning use of cellphones is a great idea because everything can wait. If it had been this way since the beginning no one would be batting an eyelash. And its not just your safety. Its the other folks that you're driving 50+ around that you're risking.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #2.63 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:14 PM EST

                                            Mythbusters on the Discovery Channel did an episode where they drove a road course outlined with traffic cones with no distractions and counted the number knocked over going 35 miles an hour. They then drove the course while talking on a cell phone and counted the traffic cones knocked over. They then drove the course while texting and counted the cones knocked over. Last but not least they drove the course after blowing a .08 (legally intoxicated) and counted the cones knocked over. Reviewing the results they had knocked over as many cones talking on a cell phone as they did when legally intoxicated, and the number knocked over while texting was double the number knocked over while intoxicated. They made me a firm believer that drivers should be banned from using cell phones while driving. I don't want my loved ones killed by a distracted driver, nor do I want to pay higher insurance rates / medical care costs because of foolish drivers. Driving is not a constitutional right, it's a privilege!

                                            • 11 votes
                                            #2.64 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:16 PM EST

                                            This will probably work as well as enforcing the speed limit and we all know that doesn't work very well. Lets ban all beverages, food, any electronic device including the radio and see what happens. But there will still be collisions because some people still cannot drive or just don't think rules apply to them. Maybe we really need is to work on drivers education and needing more skills to get a licence.

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #2.65 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:25 PM EST

                                            Some people can't drive, even with both hands on the wheel, radio off, and staring straight ahead.

                                            Our technology is developed for the wow factor and convenience. People will never give up talking on the phone whenever, even if it's illegal.

                                            Oh, and here's another spin: Women can multi-task infinitely better than men. So only women get to talk on the phone while driving?
                                            And what constitutes an emergency to a 17 year old girl is much different than to a 35 year old man. To a 17 year old girl, a broken fingernail is an emergency, neccesitating a phone call to make an appointment for repairs. And don't tell me it isn't so. I have five daughters.

                                              #2.66 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:32 PM EST

                                              The problem might be too many drivers are simply chit-chatin' unnecessary personal conversations and some might be work-related. But what about the food eatin', makeup touch ups and every type of distraction but simply driving to your distination safely and quickly? Humans are sick people. I am sorry but you can't do everything in your automobile you do in your home or workplace...just drive safely!!

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                                              #2.67 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:39 PM EST

                                              I'm all for doing something to curtail distracted drivers and their cell phones. I too, have multiple close calls every single day by people who've got a phone plugged in their ear. No, this isn't your rights being taken away, the roads are maintained by the government so, that one doesn't fly with me. NTSBs job is to make recommendations, to make things safer so, they did their job but, they went a bit overboard.

                                              The technology is already present to disable phones but, as pointed out that would cost cell phone companies money. My recommendation would be to program a phone so that it can't receive or send calls or text while going over 5 miles per hour unless a hands free device is being used. Like many have said, it'd be just like talking to someone in the car. As for GPS systems, most of those installed by the manufacturers, can't be programmed or changed while the vehicle is in motion. But, it is impossible to live in a plastic bubble when driving a 3-4,000 pound vehicle going 70 mph.

                                              Yes, we have a lot of problems but, people are dying everyday because others are on the phone or texting and are distracted, as pointed out here. As for people putting on make-up, shaving, plucking eyebrows and all those other things that are distracting them, all I can say is they are the most ignorant, self-centered drivers on the road and if caught they should loose their license for about a month and see how good they have it.

                                              All of you screaming that the government is going overboard, need to find another topic to complain about because this one is a no brainer if you ask me. Some of you can't seem to do anything but talk out your a$$es when you talk about no passengers, no kids in the car, no radios, no seat belts or things like that. This is a real issue, and it is a real problem.

                                              Driving is a privilege, it isn't guaranteed under any law or the Constitution. If you want to drive with a phone plugged in your ear or want to text, please stay off the roads, I don't want myself, my family, my friends or anyone for that matter, to pay for your ignorance!

                                              Most of Europe has had hands free laws for more than 10 years and they have been proven to save lives and with this topic, that's all that matters.

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                                              #2.68 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:43 PM EST

                                              Just more of the control freak mind set of this administration. They will have us wearing a breathing moniter to make sure we remember to breath pretty soon. I'm really sick of the regulations for morons they keep shoving down our throats. These people can't do their jobs or pay thier taxes but they think they need to tell us when to get up and what to eat and what to do or not do all day until its the time they say we should go to bed. Sorry guys but I'm not wanting to be one of a herd of brain dead robot sheep.

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                                              #2.69 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:13 PM EST

                                              Katie

                                              maybe they should stop letting people over the age of 70 drive cars around...

                                              Sat What??

                                              It is the young folks that get the high insurance premiums because it is the young folks that get the most tickets and accidents.

                                              The older generation are generally better drivers.

                                              Some people think women drivers are bad, should we ban them too?

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #2.70 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:16 PM EST

                                              I have no problem driving with my bluetooth on! What are they going to do next...ban all talking in the car...ban other passengers in the car? This is stupid! Clearly they are going overboard and I would vote against anyone who supported such a ban! They need to do something productive like start arresting all those driving under the influence of prescription drugs that impair driving...ESPECIALLY those addicted to prescription drugs! What about those who are impaired with alcohol in their system BEFORE it's at the legal limit? It's an outrage that they would go after ME...a person who doesn't take drugs, doesn't drink alcohol, doesn't have any driving violations in 30 years of driving just because I use a bluetooth! Get real!!!

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                                              #2.71 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:30 PM EST

                                              You know what's coming with this...this is more of Obozo trying to force all drivers out of their cars and onto public transportation, so that government can control the flow of people and where, how and when they move. That's been part of his agenda for a while. Obozo would like to outlaw cars completely and let government order people around according to their preset schedule to different areas, as they try to migrate (push) us into different ways of thinking. I even heard Gingrich talking to Beck about the migrating idea last week...just more control by government over the people.

                                              • 2 votes
                                              #2.72 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:37 PM EST

                                              Culling, as natural as a cell phone.

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                                              #2.73 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:05 PM EST

                                              I was crossing the street yesterday and nearly got hit by a girl ran the red. She didn't even slow down, and yes, she was texting. At the minimum, texting and calling without a hands-free device should be illegal. It's dangerous and not worth the risks.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #2.74 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:16 PM EST

                                              About a year ago a guy pulled out of a parking lot and turned left. Directly into the path of 2 lanes of one way traffic headed right at him.

                                              I was in the right hand lane. I saw his cell phone fly through the air as he drove on the sidewalk to avoid a head on.

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                                              #2.75 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:21 PM EST

                                              $15 trillion in debt...and growing by the day. And our government will soon be spending their time...no, make that "spending the taxpayers time"...debating the intricacies of how to make the use of electronic devices in automobiles illegal, which types are to be illegal, and how these illegal acts will be dealt with in the future.

                                              Small wonder that we're $15 trillion in debt...and growing by the day.

                                              We taxpayers should make a national agreement that the first member of the United States Senate or House who dares to speak on this asinine topic gets NO votes in his or her re-election campaign.

                                              $15 trillion...and growing !

                                                #2.76 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:37 PM EST

                                                I would like to think that most of us use cell phones responsibly while driving. There is wide evidence that many of us do not. I fail to see why all should face serious restrictions because of the recklessness of a minority.

                                                If you are seen or reported driving erratically, the officer should ask for for your D.L, registration AND cell phone. The same for all drivers involved in an accident. A quick check of last calls would tell the tale. Cheap electronic devices provided to law enforcement would easily detect a cell phone hidden by liars.

                                                Treat careless cell phone drivers like drunk drivers. If the cell phone proves to be a factor in reckless(impaired) driving, the penalty should be just as harsh as drunk driving. The results are often the same.

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                                                #2.77 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:43 PM EST

                                                I certainly agree with the reasoning, if it had been reasoned when the "cell phone" was first introduced. I hate the damn things. I use mine maybe a dozen times a year. Such a recommendation now though, would be as uproarious as prohibition was, maybe worse. The only thing such an idea from the federal government will bring now is; cash strapped states looking for revenue by hook or crook, will pass all sorts of selective laws, allowing drivers of working vehicles to buy permits to use these devices, maybe seniors of a certain age, disabled people etc., then fine the hell out of all others caught using them, or claiming to have caught them using them. I, and many others commenced screaming about their unsafe use while driving, and their annoying usage in public places, to public officials more than 18 years ago. We were basically told we were impeding a great new industry, and to just sit down and shut up.

                                                  #2.78 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:28 PM EST

                                                  John in San Diego-2810384 - I never said anything about people not being able to hold conversations while they're driving. In our busy lives driving kids around is an easy and great time to catch up on what they & their friends are doing & interested in. I don't know where you got that from. But if you need to dial your cell phone or you don't have a handless phone, then you might want to consider pulling over.

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                                                  #2.79 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:03 PM EST

                                                  Traffic deaths are at an all-time low, while there are more drivers than ever, and more cell phones than ever.

                                                  So the govt is full of @!$%#ake, and this is just another intrusion, created for government revenue enhancement.

                                                  Distracted driving is already illegal in most if not all states. It matters not what the reason, if you can drive without distraction and talk on your phone, great. If you drive like an idiot, they can already ticket you. We cannot prevent accidents in a free society. These constant stupid over-reactions are beyond tiring.

                                                  If you really want to address avoidable death, deal with the 300,000 accidental deaths annually in hospitals. Yeah, 80x more death in 1 year than 8 years in Iraq.

                                                    #2.80 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:15 AM EST

                                                    The way people here act like not being able to use their phone in their car will kill them, but guess what it could kill someone else three times I've all most been hit in the cross walk and two of those times the person was guess what on their piss azz phones ... I have two cell phones and don't use them in my car it ain't going to kill me, I can pull over if I really need to use it and I won't kill someone over a call either ..

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                                                    #2.81 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:43 AM EST

                                                    Why not just enforce the existing laws instead of creating more laws that won't be enforced? I live in a state (Maryland) that has a law that makes it a requirement that a "hands-free" device be used with a cell phone when the vehicle is in motion. Enforcement of this law is non-existent. I have witnessed people sitting at traffic control devices talking on their phones through cycles of the control devices. I have witnessed people driving past Law enforcement and wave at the officer while they continue to drive and have their phone up to their ear haveing a conversation. In Maryland the Law is a joke and is universally ignored by enforcement agencies. GO AFTER THOSE THAT BREAK THE LAW AND LEAVE THE REST OF US ALONE!!

                                                      #2.82 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:55 AM EST

                                                      Cynic-537088

                                                      Lovely. So if NTSB is taken seriously, parents can't get calls from kids stranded at school, people can't call for directions if lost, doctors can't receive emergency summons, you can't call 911 to report that car following you, etc. PC Schmucks.

                                                      Just do what they did during the 80's, 70's, 60's... people were still able to do all the above without cell phones.

                                                        #2.83 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:36 AM EST

                                                        Although I hate getting stuck behind some moron on a cell-phone that doesn't seem to notice ANYONE ELSE on the road, I won't support this when it doens't even allow hands-free use.

                                                        I think the blind cellphone drivers are really more a symptom of a new technology combined with a plain ol' bad driver than anything. Give it time, proper training, proper regulations and it will work out fine. Banning it outright is a bit too much.

                                                        

                                                        Just do what they did during the 80's, 70's, 60's... people were still able to do all the above without cell phones.

                                                        Hahaha. See a working pay phone lately? And no, people couldn't report the car following them in the 80, 70s, and 60s without getting out of the car and putting themselves at risk. It was FAR more inefficient.

                                                        Ridiculous. Yeah, let's just get rid of computers too since the old way worked fine. Hell, let's forget technological progress all-together....

                                                          #2.84 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:19 AM EST

                                                          If they take all my communication devices away from me in my car, then all I have to communicate with is my "middle finger".

                                                          Which would be rightfully used whenever I pass a federal building or federal employee.

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                                                          #2.85 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:08 AM EST

                                                          Britt Carter

                                                          Bit of information for all those that know they are able to talk on the phone while driving. Not everyone is you

                                                          That's like driving in the snow. I'm okay everyone else is an idiot.

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                                                          #2.86 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:10 PM EST

                                                          Federal Government as "Big Brother" once again...next they'll make sneezing "illegal" while driving because it might cause an accident.

                                                          And a lot of accidents are reported as caused by a "medical incident" like a heart attack or stroke...so maybe it should also be against the law for those with heart conditions to drive cars. And those folks who have heart conditions and do drive cars...well they better not make a cellphone call if they think they just suffered a heart attack. That's a crime too !

                                                          Additionally....driving during a snowstorm should be made against the law too...lots of crashes when the snow is falling.

                                                            #2.87 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:45 PM EST

                                                            "Traffic deaths are at an all-time low, while there are more drivers than ever, and more cell phones than ever."

                                                            So, because not enough people died, we shouldn't make laws that might have prevented the deaths of those who did? That's the logic you're going with?

                                                              #2.88 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:48 PM EST

                                                              lets get rid of any passengers and kids they are just as destacting i agree no texting and driving hands free devices are alot safer in accidents its texting and driving not talking on hands free device that causes them talking on them is the same as talking to anyone else in the car

                                                                #2.89 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:50 AM EST

                                                                I am an automotive engineer and a civil libertarian but this is the correct decision from the NTSB. There have been numerous independent studies that have confimred that using a cell phone while driving is every bit as dangerous as driving while intoxicated, even when you use a hands free device such as a Bluetooth or even Ford's Sync system. The problem is not just holding the device while you talk, but because your brain is more involved with the conversation than what is happening around you.

                                                                People who are trying to text while behind the wheel are far more dangerous than drunk driving because of the manual task and trying to compose the message, so either pull over or give your device to a passenger while you concentrate on the task of driving. If you want to talk then pull over and chat but you do not have the right to put the lives of others at risk because you are attempting to multitask.

                                                                If you need any proof just watch the eepisode of Mythbusters for proof because their episode proved the previous studies by numerous groups. It is a serious fine in Germany to talk and drive on the Autobahn so there is precedence for the NTSB. There will be a problem enforcing it and that remains to be determined.

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                                                                #2.90 - Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:30 PM EST

                                                                bs. the sync system does not. i have one and it is easier to use then applying the cruise control on your car

                                                                  #2.91 - Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:55 PM EST
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                                                                  This is a state's rights issue. That said, I think that texting and hand-on phone use is distracting and dangerous to fellow drivers and their passengers.

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                                                                  #3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:26 PM EST

                                                                  I just read a book about people fighting for state's rights - let's see - what was it about? Oh, yeah...the Civil War!! Seems some people wanted to own human beings and they called that state's rights, too.

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                                                                  #3.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:55 PM EST

                                                                  It's the states' decision, but the Feds only have to make highway dollars contingent on having a cell-phone ban in place. They'll all fall in line just like they did with BAC-levels and open-container laws.

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                                                                  #3.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:03 PM EST

                                                                  So, it's illegal to use a cell phone, but okay to tweeze your eyebrows? Or shave? Or eat? Or...

                                                                  (You get it)

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                                                                  #3.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:05 PM EST

                                                                  This is a state's rights issue.

                                                                  Actually, I believe every state in the country receives boatloads of federal highway money, so I'm sorry, this is one thing that is most certainly NOT a "state's rights" issue.

                                                                  I'd get behind something that disables phones in vehicles while in motion. If you've got half (or more) young drivers out there texting while they're driving, and beyond that, many of those doing it on phones without physical buttons, forcing them to look down at the phone repeatedly while creating the text, that's really a dangerous game that's being played with people's lives.

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                                                                  #3.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:07 PM EST

                                                                  federal highway money,

                                                                  And where does this money come from?

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                                                                  #3.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:13 PM EST

                                                                  @Misty-739152

                                                                  I just read a book about people fighting for state's rights - let's see - what was it about? Oh, yeah...the Civil War!! Seems some people wanted to own human beings and they called that state's rights, too.

                                                                  Oh God, not this asinine argument. States rights are protected by the 10th Amendment, do you honestly believe we should abandon it because it was used to protect something that was wrong? The a-holes who hold anti-gay protests at soldiers funerals use the First Amendment to protect what they do. Should we therefore abandon the First Amendment also? Try using your brain BEFORE opening your mouth.

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                                                                  #3.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:34 PM EST

                                                                  Hey Chad were in the Constitution does it give the Federal Government that power?

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                                                                  #3.7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:50 PM EST

                                                                  Cut to the chase ban driving... It's really the only responsible thing to do and if it saves even one life it's worth it. Anything less than banning driving is people who don't care about other people.

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                                                                  #3.8 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:53 PM EST

                                                                  So why don't you ban talking to the person next to you in the car? Having a bluetooth and never touching the phone is almost the same thing. This is ridiculous. 10 years ago when I took my behind the wheel exam, my driver person was "amazed" that I could actually drive and (gasp) hold a legitimate conversation at the same time! Oh my, some people can actually do two things at the same time. Because some people ruin it for everyone, they shouldn't take away these liberties away from everyone.

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                                                                  #3.9 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:12 PM EST

                                                                  That is the problem with "States Rights". It isn't just a problem with one or two States, it is a NATIONAL PROBLEM. And it doesn't just cover cars and light trucks. It also covers any powered vehicle including airplanes (or didn't you read about a certain actor that was in the news lately). PS: Do you really think otherwise?

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                                                                  #3.10 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:13 PM EST

                                                                  All that federal highway money comes from anyone who buys gas, cigs, etc.

                                                                  I refuse to talk on a cell phone while driving. I refuse to talk with anyone who is driving and using a cell phone. The first question I ask when receiving a cell call is "are you driving".

                                                                  That being said. This is more stupid government control and I'm dead against such legislation. Our country is already a police state - and now they're going to legislate common sence? HELL NO!!!

                                                                  This is one of many reasons RON PAUL has my vote in 2012. I'm a child of the '60's and remember well reading Orwell's 1984. It's rapidly comming to pass. You people had better WAKE UP!

                                                                  And that's all I have to say about that.

                                                                  RON PAUL 2012

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                                                                  #3.11 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:25 PM EST

                                                                  Stupid, unenforceable and impossible. This is more a reflection on the fools recommending this than anything else. They should be prevented from handling sharp objects.

                                                                  Perhaps it is time for a libertarian president.

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                                                                  #3.12 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:43 PM EST

                                                                  I don't know why people are so distracted while talking on the phone while driving. I'm usually too busy eating breakfast, drinking coffee, shifting gears and rolling a joint to answer the damn thing!

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                                                                  #3.13 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:47 PM EST

                                                                  Of course this safely recommendation does not apply to Wall Street Bankers, their already immune from prosecution for any and all illegal activities.

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                                                                  #3.14 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:09 PM EST

                                                                  So, all these devices banned while the vehicle is in motion. Guess that means my passenger can't use their phone or kids in the back can't play games or watch TV. If it even does pass, I give it a week at the most before there are work-arounds.

                                                                    #3.15 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:22 PM EST

                                                                    @ KenD-3836641,

                                                                    A couple of things you mentioned through me for a loop. Radios are still programmable and most cities have noise ordnances so boom boxes coming out your u-kn-w are kept at a level as to not invade the car next to you. That, I find annoying to the point I want to ram my car into the idiot that would never hear me coming.

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                                                                    #3.16 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:41 PM EST

                                                                    Well I knew it was only a matter of time before this ridiculous texting fad led to a crackdown on all cell phone use while driving. If someone had told me ten years ago that someday 20% of all drivers would be doing something as moronic as texting while driving I would not have believed them, and I always believe in the potential stupidity of my fellow man. Of course the thing that really makes it so ridiculous is that there is no reason to text in the first place when you can just call the person by phone. Phone texting was invented as a way to get a quick message to someone when they were not in a place where they could talk or to send info that the person might need to reference again later, such as an address. It was not meant to take the place of a back a back and forth phone conversation. Unfortunately though using phone texting in place of talking became a fad with kids many years ago and then that fad eventually spread to adults who did it thinking it made them seem hip and up with the times. Lets face it, nobody wants to be the only person not keeping up with the latest fads theses day. But to do something behind the wheel that requires you to constantly be taking your eyes off the road for several seconds at a time is just stupid beyond belief, especially something that it not even necessary. Here’s a news flash people – EVERY TEXT YOU GET DOES NOT HAVE TO BE IMMIDIATELY ANSWERED. I usually only answer mine once or twice a day at best. If people want to talk to me immediately they know to use the phone which I will usually pick up right then and there. Of course this texting fad would be little more than an annoyance if people weren’t actually trying to do it while driving down the road. This is such a level of dangerousness beyond just talking on the phone that it’s not even funny. So now not only are people getting killed but these habitual texters may have taken away everyone else’s right to uses a cell phone responsibly while driving for good. Thanks a lot idiots!

                                                                      #3.17 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:18 PM EST

                                                                      EVERY TEXT YOU GET DOES NOT HAVE TO BE IMMIDIATELY ANSWERED.

                                                                      I have to remind my girlfriend of that all the time. Expecting an immediate reply kind of defeats the whole purpose of texting, doesn't it?

                                                                      If someone needs to talk to me now, they best call me. If they text, I will get around to replying at my own convenience.

                                                                      As for in car use - I never text in the car, that's just retarded. I will either call if it's something hot... or just wait until I get a moment at a gas station or something. Not a big deal.

                                                                        #3.18 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:33 AM EST

                                                                        @cherokee-1166981

                                                                        That is the problem with "States Rights". It isn't just a problem with one or two States, it is a NATIONAL PROBLEM.

                                                                        So you're saying someone talking on the phone as they drive down a desolate back highway in South Dakota is the same "problem" as someone talking on the phone as they drive through rush hour traffic in San Diego? Since every state has a different set of potential circumstances each state should be allowed to address the problem however they see fit.Aside from that, the Federal Government was NEVER intended to deal with issues such as this, these types of "problems" were intended to ALWAYS be in the providence of the individual states. If the Federal Government was intended to control every aspect of our lives why did we start a republic and give individual states the right to make their own laws?

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                                                                        #3.19 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:56 AM EST

                                                                        C'mon Pal. are you saying Sioux Falls does not have rush hour traffic? Just as federal law applies to the entire nation, state law applies to the entire state. Perhaps all laws should be enacted by individual villages and single stop-sign municipalities in the middle of nowhere. Free abortions in Mayberry. A death sentence for seeking an abortion in Dewberry (just 20 miles down the road). That may not bode well for an unfamiliar young lady from Mayberry that was impregnated by a filthy rapist while in Dewberry.

                                                                        State's Rights was a critical part of the Constitution to get all 13 tiny colonies of limited population (with varied cultural leadership) to sign on. Our wise forefathers made provisions to the Constitution called amendments to change things as this great nation grew and matured. States Rights was never the foundation of our Constitution, but a necessary compromise at that particular time. State's Rights was also the guise for wealthy southern slave owners to start the horror of The American Civil War with the threat of secession.

                                                                        Some politicians use this divisive issue today to further their own goals just as they did in President Lincoln's era. . I believe that most proud Indiana Hoosiers would rather see uniformity in the law while visiting Buckeye relatives in Ohio and vice versa. Who wants to go to jail for an offense that is deemed legal just across a State line?

                                                                          #3.20 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:41 PM EST

                                                                          If you're a homebody that doubts my words, just talk to an interstate truck driver. They are the most numerous victims of this injustice.

                                                                            #3.21 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:56 PM EST

                                                                            C'mon Pal. are you saying Sioux Falls does not have rush hour traffic?

                                                                            No, that's not what I'm saying although comparing SF rush hour traffic to that of SD is apples to oranges, trust me, I've driven in both. What I'm saying is that the people in South Dakota might not want to enact a law that is only going to solve a minor problem where as that same issue in California would be much, much more serious.

                                                                            States Rights was never the foundation of our Constitution, but a necessary compromise at that particular time.

                                                                            A necessary compromise? Are you serious? Why did they decide to form the nation as a REPUBLIC if the rights of individual states was nothing more than a compromise? And who exactly were they "compromising" with? Themselves? Give me a break. They all wanted the ability to maintain their way of life and recognized that what was good for people in Mass was not necessarily good for people in Georgia.

                                                                            State's Rights was also the guise for wealthy southern slave owners to start the horror of The American Civil War with the threat of secession.

                                                                            I've addressed this ridiculous argument above. The First Amendment is used by all sorts of a-holes, let's just toss it aside also right?

                                                                            I believe that most proud Indiana Hoosiers would rather see uniformity in the law while visiting Buckeye relatives in Ohio and vice versa. Who wants to go to jail for an offense that is deemed legal just across a State line?

                                                                            And I'd like to not have to slow down from 65mph to 55mph when I cross over the border into Iowa. So does that mean people in Iowa should give up their right to set their own speed limit in order to placate me? What a ridiculous argument. Why the hell should anyone in Ohio give a rat's @ss what the people of Indiana want? If you're a guest in their state you should follow their rules. Would those same Hoosiers leave their shoes on when visiting their relatives in Ohio because that's what they do in their own home even if their Buckeye relatives asked them to take them off when they came in the house?

                                                                              #3.22 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:48 AM EST

                                                                              Just did a quick check of the statistics, 17,626 motor vehicle accidents last year in South Dakota. 138 were attributed to cell phone distractions. Do we really need a new law that is going to accomplish nothing more than the handing out of an additional ticket to 138 people? The money recovered from the tickets won't come close the the amount spent investigating whether or not 17 thousand + people happened to be using a cell phone when their accident occured.

                                                                                #3.23 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:02 PM EST
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                                                                                Next it will be cigarettes, big macs and coke. And don't forget women that put on their make-up, guys that shave, and people reading books. How detailed is this law going to be? Forget another useless law, and hold people accountable for their poor choices and stupid decisions.

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                                                                                #4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:27 PM EST

                                                                                Hey Wake UP most of the stupid decisions made in this country are at the voting booth.

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                                                                                #4.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:45 PM EST

                                                                                Exactly. Where are the laws banning shaving, eating, reading, applying makeup, looking for something that dropped on the floor, talking to passengers (since that is no different than talking on the phone), or fiddling with radio controls (which isn't much different than text messaging)? I've seen more instances of people performing these tasks while straddling multiple lanes or driving over into the shoulder than anyone having a problem while using their phone.

                                                                                This is nothing more than an attempt for government to take away your rights. Just be responsible and phone use isn't an issue. Instead, because a few people made the unwise decision to direct too much attention to their phones and not enough during a moment of driving that necessitated extra attention, we will pay the consequences. The laws to punish those who are distracted while driving already exist. That's why people who injure others with a vehicle pay a fine and go to prison, whether they were using a phone or performing some other distracting activity.

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                                                                                #4.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:47 PM EST

                                                                                "US wants ban"??? I think the writer means Obama's Transportation Lieutenant wants such a ban ... yet another government agency trying to get into the citizen's personal space and effect every aspect of one's life. Nobody asked me or anyone I know if I (US) wanted this ban ....

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                                                                                #4.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:56 PM EST

                                                                                Screw your rights, Mark. Other people have a right to drive, without the possibility of some idiot with a phone stuck in their ear and driving one handed, crashing into them and causing injuries or death. Going to prison or a fine, does not help the victim of a crash.

                                                                                I do think having a bluetooth phone should be allowed. It is no more distracting, than talking to a passenger.

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                                                                                #4.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:59 PM EST

                                                                                I agree. Too much government. Yesterday, I couldn't get home in time to get my child from school. If my friend hadn't picked up her cell phone and answered it my 7 year old would have come home to a locked and empty house. What constitutes an emergency? Fine ban texting, and internet if the car is in motion but sometimes we need to reach others in vehicles. Plus how can you enforce this anyway? Pull people over if you see their mouth moving?

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                                                                                #4.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:02 PM EST

                                                                                Liberals never mind taking someone else's rights, as long as they get their way everything is fine.

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                                                                                #4.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:07 PM EST

                                                                                I guess we'll blame Obama for everything. Then we'll get the good old boys back in there and bomb Iran and take all their oil and dare China and Russia to blink. Then pass Patriot 2 and start Armagrdon 1. But Obama will be better off anyway.

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                                                                                #4.7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:08 PM EST

                                                                                RalphH: Entirely wrong. Nobody has a right to drive. Some people have the privilege to drive, which is why driver's licenses exist. When people hurt others, then the state takes that privilege away. This system has worked for over half a century and it can continue to do so. Again, it doesn't matter if you're talking on the phone, eating, drinking coffee, or shaving. They're all distractions and there are laws to address what happens when people don't pay attention while driving.

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                                                                                #4.8 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:11 PM EST

                                                                                Rach-

                                                                                Just to point out, 20-30 years ago, your daughter would have gone home to a locked house, because people didn't really have cell phones. Looked like we all survived.

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                                                                                #4.9 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:14 PM EST

                                                                                What adversely affects the FEW or beneficially affects the FEW can never adversely
                                                                                affect the MANY!

                                                                                I believe from what I digest from social information, observation and the current
                                                                                paradigm the state of society is in; the above statement is reversed.

                                                                                The MANY are not a food source/income to feed upon until depleted!

                                                                                Nationalize the Oil companies, tighten up all credit, limit credit, reduce government, no
                                                                                social benefits if you smoke, drink or use or abuse drugs and make every person
                                                                                responsible for themselves and not the MANY!

                                                                                • 2 votes
                                                                                #4.10 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:17 PM EST

                                                                                Screw your rights, Mark. Other people have a right to drive, without the possibility of some idiot with a phone stuck in their ear and driving one handed, crashing into them and causing injuries or death. Going to prison or a fine, does not help the victim of a crash.

                                                                                Yeah screw YOUR rights, only MINE are important. And if prison or a fine does not good then what good would another law be? They've tried this with texting in some states already and it just made things worse. Now people hold the phone in their lap where no one can see it and they have to take their eyes off the road completely. The same will happen with phone usage, people will just use the speaker phone and keep the phone where it can't be seen. The idea that laws provide a deterrent is ridiculous, all new laws would do is add another charge to the person at fault for an accident.

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                                                                                #4.11 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:42 PM EST

                                                                                @ the comment above: you do not have the right to infringe on my rights.

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                                                                                #4.12 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:15 PM EST

                                                                                If you read a book while driving, you are indeed an idiot. If you shave while driving, you are an idiot. If you put makeup on while driving, you are an idiot. Driving while DUI/DWI, and you are an idiot. Disregarding traffic laws, and you are an idiot. Engaged in doing anything that distracts you from committed driving, and you are an idiot. You need your license removed indefinitely and perhaps have your car impounded. No excuses. You are a danger to anyone else driving and certainly a danger to yourself.

                                                                                You are using your car as a weapon. And the Laws need to be changed to reflect that.

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                                                                                #4.13 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:31 PM EST

                                                                                We must also ban the use of road maps while in a vehicle. And, there must be some other stupid things we can ban. I know! Cars will be safe if we ban drivers. Sheesh! My tinfoil hat isn't working. It was an alien that said that. Must have been an alien responsible for that government report too.

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                                                                                #4.14 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:43 PM EST

                                                                                Stexan, yeah this is right along the lines as the Patriot Act as far as citizens' rights violations eh? That was the last guy though if you remember. I don't think most people realize that neither side has our best interests and our rights in mind when they make laws.

                                                                                • 1 vote
                                                                                #4.15 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:20 PM EST

                                                                                The law would save lives. I'd hardly call that "useless."

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                                                                                #4.16 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:47 PM EST
                                                                                Comment author avatarRyan Conduitvia Facebook

                                                                                While I agree that texting while driving is just dangerous , Does this also mean that emergency services can not use their radios, A ban on everything should be a ban on everything

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                                                                                #4.17 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:01 PM EST

                                                                                Ryan Conduit: Yes, because bullsh!tting on the phone about unimportant crap is EXACTLY AS IMPORTANT as an ambulance rushing someone to the hospital. Or a fire truck on the way to your house burning down. Or a cop trying to report something/call in back-up.

                                                                                Common sense before typing please.

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                                                                                #4.18 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:11 PM EST

                                                                                Emergency services can get around usual traffic laws in cases of emergency. There's a reason that police cars, fire trucks, and ambulances are allowed to speed, even though it too is against the law.

                                                                                  #4.19 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:58 PM EST

                                                                                  Rest assured cops, fire fighters, etc will continue to use cell phones and laptops if this law were to actually be enacted. But when people start getting pulled over and heavily ticketed because they appear to be "talking" but they are the only one in the vehicle, this nonsense will come to a stop. People have limits, and this will surely be one of those infringements most sensible people will not tolerate.

                                                                                  The whole idea is goofy any way. So cops are actually going to be looking for people "talking in a vehicle"? ... seriously? Obviously LE can not rely on 911 calls anymore, so it will be up to LE to track down all of these "killer drivers". Good GAWD, Obamaville is getting more unbelievable and bizarre by the month.

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                                                                                  #4.20 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:34 PM EST

                                                                                  Well here comes another law for me to break. I use to wear my seat belt all the time until they told me that I had too. I guess that is the free man in me that makes me want to rebel.

                                                                                    #4.21 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:39 AM EST

                                                                                    On Kjunme's headstone were his last words "I use to use my seat belt all the time until they told me that I had too"

                                                                                    Well, I can't object with that arguement, as it does help "thin the herd" of the stupid people!

                                                                                    Maybe we should just allow stupid people to not wear their selt belts (you know the "free man rebel" types), as it would help to control the population explosion and provide plenty of jobs to street scrapers, repair shops, hospitals etc.

                                                                                      #4.22 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:49 AM EST

                                                                                      kjunme: Well here comes another law for me to break. I use to wear my seat belt all the time until they told me that I had too. I guess that is the free man in me that makes me want to rebel.

                                                                                      Wow, can I worship you? You are so far beyond cool.

                                                                                      Wait a minute...No, you're an ass.

                                                                                        #4.23 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:06 PM EST
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                                                                                        Hmm I guess we should ban drinking and driving might help. OPPS Sorry they already have done that, yet it don't stop ****....O well next idea.................

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                                                                                        Reply#5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:28 PM EST

                                                                                        ummm, the drinking and driving argument in this case really isn't a good one since it's already illegal to drink and drive. Imagine if we made it legal again to to drink and drive???? We would probably have a HUGE increase in the number of people drinking and driving. Making something illegal does not stop everyone, but it does stop a large number of people. Hence, if we make texting and talking while driving illegal nationally, we might still have some folks doing it, but probably not as many as we see now.

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                                                                                        #5.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:56 PM EST

                                                                                        LoL @ Leatherneck918: To true friend, yes there is a law but it doesn't stop retards who choose to drink and drive.

                                                                                          #5.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:14 PM EST

                                                                                          Jam- the point was that it didnt stop people from doing it. This law about no phone use while driving is kind of bunk, if you consider that it is no different than talking to a passenger in the car. It is also really hard to enforce, it would be a second class offense meaning you would have to be doing something else to get pulled over for it. so really its a lil ridiculous to do make this law.

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                                                                                          #5.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:38 PM EST

                                                                                          "This law about no phone use while driving is kind of bunk, if you consider that it is no different than talking to a passenger in the car."

                                                                                          That's your conclusion, but the evidence doesn't support that conclusion.

                                                                                            #5.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:10 PM EST

                                                                                            DUI/DWI should be punished the same as pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger and is nothing more to the driver than Russian Roulette. And a fine or suspension of your license is not enough. Neither is a infantile judge. Murder or attempted murder charge should suffice ( Death by Vehicular Suicide can await those who do so).

                                                                                              #5.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:38 PM EST

                                                                                              cherokee-1166981, how about tired driving or under prescription meds or just being uncoordinated or suffering someother impairment that limits reaction time like being old!? If it were up to driving nazis like you we'd all be rolled in bubble wrap rocking in a corner somewhere for safety. I'd rather have a life thanks.

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                                                                                              #5.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:54 PM EST

                                                                                              The laws in place now are not completely enforcible. What make you people think that anything is going to change just because the federal government says so.So let the government put cameras in every car to watch you if you are distracted.Think of all the jobs that might provide,Watching idiots drive.Im not really serious.The feds need to but out.

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                                                                                              #5.7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:50 PM EST

                                                                                              Some of you people might want to watch what you ask for. I was working in Virginia in I think it was 2004 and while I was there I heard on the radio that they were trying to pass a law that banned doing anything that distracted your driving. Some of the banned things were adjusting your radio,drinking or eating, talking to someone in the car or turning your head to view the scenery. In fact it pretty much stated that if and officer observed you driving and you where not looking forward with both hands on the steering wheel except when viewing the side mirrors or looking to make sure the road is clear to change lanes, etc. you could be cited.

                                                                                              Oh yea, What is with all the collapse post on here. Isn't this the USA home of Freedom of speach?

                                                                                              As for my opinion, I travel a lot as I work out of state and even though I don't talk on the phone when I around other cars I do in the middle of the night when I am on the highway and no one is around call my wife to talk to her to keep me awake. Of course I do use blue tooth. And to say that driving is not a right is telling Americans that they are limited to their success in life and must take what ever job is available walking or bike riding distance from their home. We cannot fit everybody in this country in the city that has taxis or buses.

                                                                                                #5.8 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:35 AM EST
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                                                                                                While we're at it, lets also ban laptops and ipads. Too many times I have looked over to see another driver, both hands off the wheel, typing into his laptop.

                                                                                                You gotta know his eyes were off the road too.

                                                                                                I can always tell if the driver ahead of me is texting, phoning or laptopping. They can't keep a steady speed and immediately hit the brake when the call/text comes in. Very annoying for the guy behind you.

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                                                                                                Reply#6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:29 PM EST

                                                                                                chip, chip, chip goes the sound of the freedoms we used to have.....leave this declining empire while there is still time.

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                                                                                                Reply#7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:29 PM EST

                                                                                                nobody can think for themselves, so the government has to do it; that isn't a way to run a country.

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                                                                                                #7.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:32 PM EST

                                                                                                Until it hits home. Think of the numerous families who lost loved ones because of some idiot's texting.

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                                                                                                #7.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:38 PM EST

                                                                                                think of all of the people that have died because of poor choices and stupid decisions, that will inevitably continue to be made. The worst thing that we have done is put warning labels on things like lawn mowers; if people lost a few toes they may think twice about doing something else stupid, like texting and driving. Oh no, it is the lawn mower companies fault they got their toes chopped off, or it is the cell phone companies fault he was texting and driving, or the car companies fault that their car went into the wrong lane, or it is McDonald's fault I poured hot coffee in my lap. The gov can not change our diapers and powder our butt every time we get out of bed.

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                                                                                                #7.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:45 PM EST

                                                                                                But they are trying.

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                                                                                                #7.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:49 PM EST

                                                                                                Wake up. That is what the democrats and administration wants. You can't think, they can, and you have to be totally dependant on the federal government for everything. Wake up, people and smell the democrats, I mean stink!!!

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                                                                                                #7.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:08 PM EST

                                                                                                Beam me up Scotty!

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                                                                                                #7.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:51 PM EST

                                                                                                changing the law isn't going to change anything. people still drink and drive. if you see someone texting or otherwise driving while distracted, either pass them and get away from them, or pull over and let them get up the road.

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                                                                                                #7.7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:25 PM EST

                                                                                                Hey Jam, I think the are talking about drinking a coke or something like that while you are driving.

                                                                                                  #7.8 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:59 AM EST
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                                                                                                  Yes, this will save people from dying in car crashes due to idiots. Because it's worked so well for drunk driving. Eating while driving is legal, so is smoking, two things which distract you more than talking on a hands-free device.

                                                                                                  Driving is a privilege, not a right. You screw up, you should be punished for it (not pay some piddly fine), and that in itself should be a deterrent. If someone is going to talk/text while driving, a law isn't going to make them stop. Considering the very high percentage of us who speed (and thereby break the law) on occasion.

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                                                                                                  Reply#8 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:30 PM EST

                                                                                                  no it won't, people will still make poor choices and get into wrecks; you are too naivete and idyllic. Your right about driving being a privilege though, and you should be punished for your poor choices. The liberals want to raise gas prices so high that people will be forced to ride the bus; a better option is to take away licenses from people who make poor choices and cause wrecks, and let them ride the bus.

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                                                                                                  #8.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:36 PM EST

                                                                                                  Wakeup: I think your sarcasm detector may be on the fritz....I think you and Chris are on the same side.

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                                                                                                  #8.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:55 PM EST

                                                                                                  ummm, the drinking and driving argument in this case really isn't a good one since it's already illegal to drink and drive. Imagine if we made it legal again to to drink and drive???? We would probably have a HUGE increase in the number of people drinking and driving. Making something illegal does not stop everyone, but it does stop a large number of people. Hence, if we make texting and talking while driving illegal nationally, we might still have some folks doing it, but probably not as many as we see now.

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                                                                                                  #8.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:58 PM EST

                                                                                                  HadEnough-3538363

                                                                                                  you are right, I was on my cell phone and I clicked the wrong "reply" button; my bad.

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                                                                                                  #8.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:01 PM EST

                                                                                                  Hand free doesn't lessen the distraction. Any distraction can cause an accident. I've scraped enough vehicular accident(?) victims up from the roadways in Georgia to be an expert in that task. 20+ years.

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                                                                                                  #8.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:43 PM EST

                                                                                                  Eating and driving is, in fact illegal, in some States.

                                                                                                    #8.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:45 PM EST

                                                                                                    Killing cell phone usage is LEGAL in some places like PRISONS, movie theaters, and in some offices and in some shops. And there is a REASON why they do so.

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                                                                                                    #8.7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:48 PM EST

                                                                                                    I use my iPhone hooked up to my radio to listen to music in the car. This bill would make that illegal too.

                                                                                                    Sorry, I hope they shoot this down. Giving the government total control of something and they will always mess things up more.

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                                                                                                    #8.8 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:32 PM EST

                                                                                                    Well then Cherokee... you need to remove your radio too as that is a huge distraction! As for phones legally shut down in theaters, NOT SO, they ask you to turn them off or kill the ringtone, as for prisons, why do prisoners have cell phones? They shouldn't, it's illegal for a prisoner to have a cell phone, offices, again NOT SO!

                                                                                                    The only place that my cell doesn't work is in a Las Vegas Hotel, any of the "good" hotels, it kills their phone charges...they block the signals legally or illegally.

                                                                                                    But when your government decides what is good for you and what is NOT good for you, they are coming real close to a communist/Nazi rule. This is a country where we are SUPPOSED to have rights, that is rapidly changing due to the Senators/Congressmen telling us what is good and what is not good for us....McCarthy thought he was right too....

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                                                                                                    #8.9 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:42 PM EST

                                                                                                    Yeah, because this whole problem is a problem of what devices you have access too...not! Its a self control problem. For those who talk on the phone while driving and let their driving suffer...it's their fault and those who can control ourselves and not let our "dangerous electronic devices" distract us too much should have to suffer this regulation that i'm sure they'll want to shove down our throats. Hands free talking doesn't help as much as many people think it does, btw. Its the mental distraction thats the problem. But again, banning those devices is one of the stupidest ideas I've ever heard. All we need to do is encourage not let yourself become too involved with your electronic devices while driving. NO MORE STUPID, UNENFORCABLE, and UNREALISTIC LAWS AND REGULATIONS! The government's attitude of telling me that "they know what's best for me" as opposed to me knowing whats best for me, has got to stop.

                                                                                                      #8.10 - Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:19 PM EST
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                                                                                                      i don't understand how they are going to do this. most new vehicles have the bluetooth in the dash option, where the cell phone is streamed through the radio and i think Ford's system can even update your facebook. What do u do about the people that already have this in their vechicles and car manufactures now how to redesign.

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                                                                                                      Reply#9 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:30 PM EST

                                                                                                      i meant to say........ the car manufactures now have to redesign, that cost will go to the consumer

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                                                                                                      #9.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:54 PM EST
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                                                                                                      We should view driving like the germans do, a task all in itself. Ever notice why older german cars don't have cupholders? Its because they consider driving a task in itself, just like eating or dressing yourself. It should require the utmost attention. Eating, talking, and drinking should be done outside the vehicle.

                                                                                                      As far as the government banning talking on phones in cars.. eh.. we don't need more overreach into our lives.

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                                                                                                      Reply#10 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:32 PM EST

                                                                                                      bingo!

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                                                                                                      #10.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:37 PM EST

                                                                                                      I lived in Germany for several years (many years ago). Hands down they were the most rude and impatient drivers I've ever been on the road with, but damn they were skilled drivers.

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                                                                                                      #10.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:49 PM EST

                                                                                                      German drivers are put through drving test and checks close to that of obtaining a pilots license. Driving there requires pretty much the same attention and skills as flying an airplane, perhaps even more. As for those who don't obtain and maintain the proper attention and skills, well they aren't around for very long.

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                                                                                                      #10.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:05 PM EST

                                                                                                      @ Mark. Lol yeah i agree, the rule and law roughtly translates to "drive to the right" and its nice to see that people actually abide by it.

                                                                                                      @ Old-Pilot

                                                                                                      yeah, also the fact that the drivers license in Germany costs $1500-2k USD.

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                                                                                                      #10.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:33 PM EST

                                                                                                      When my friend received a call from her husband, she asked me to pick up the phone. Her husband was asking me where we were. Since I was a guest, I had hard time to explain it. I wanted to give the phone to my friend. She refused to take it. And we were not on the highway, we were somewhere in the woods where you could not see other cars for miles.

                                                                                                      So yes, driving in Germany is a task all in itself. And they take it seriously. And cup holders in my Benz suck.

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                                                                                                      #10.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:31 PM EST

                                                                                                      "Older" American cars don't have cupholders either.

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                                                                                                      #10.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:49 PM EST
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                                                                                                      No driving in cars with screaming infants, no lighting up a quick cigarette, no pets of any kind in the car, no listening to the radio, no kids watching DVD's.....and on and on.

                                                                                                      The fact is, there are many, many distractions out there that cause driver error. Cell phone use may be the most common one now, but where to after that? One seated cars for everyone and no passengers allowed whatsoever?

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                                                                                                      Reply#11 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:32 PM EST

                                                                                                      Wow....do you take everything to extremes? I only read about cell phones.

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                                                                                                      #11.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:41 PM EST

                                                                                                      Yeah, well the rest will be next. Once you let the gov into anything, they take it to the extreme; just wait until your taxes go up because you have high cholesterol.

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                                                                                                      #11.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:48 PM EST

                                                                                                      We better ban all pretty women from going anywhere a man can see her while he is driving. How many of you turned your heads almost backwards a time or two to take a second look at a beautiful woman walking along side of the street and when you turned back around had to hit your brakes.( Whew close call ) Now be honest and don't lie.

                                                                                                        #11.3 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:10 AM EST
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                                                                                                        I liked the law in Florida, where you'd be ticketed if you caused an accident when driving "while distracted". Didn't matter what the distraction was, whether using a cell phone, yelling at the kids, or looking for the ash tray. Keep your eyes - and mind! - on the road, folks. That should be the rule. But still, I see so many people staring off into space, not using signals, and drifting out of their lane while talking on the phone, I'd be fine with banning their use entirely. Personally, I pull off the road if I really need to use the phone.

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                                                                                                        Reply#12 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:36 PM EST

                                                                                                        better yet, make it so their insurance company doesn't have to pay if they were on the cell phone; that will get people's attention.

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                                                                                                        #12.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:49 PM EST

                                                                                                        That would.

                                                                                                          #12.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:59 PM EST

                                                                                                          If you do so you passed the test but how about those thousands driving when they shouldn't be. And those cover the vast majority of drivers who complain about traffic laws.

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                                                                                                          #12.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:53 PM EST

                                                                                                          Wake up,

                                                                                                          So Person A talks on their cell phone and gets in an accident. Their insurance company doesn't have to pay under your new rules. So person B can't get their car fixed or pay their medical bills since Person A doesn't have enough to pay them out of pocket? Sounds like the non cell phone talker is getting screwed again.

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                                                                                                          #12.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:44 PM EST
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                                                                                                          Our local cops don't stop anyone for texting/cell phone use at all. There too busy typing on their laptops while they drive......................

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                                                                                                          Reply#13 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:37 PM EST

                                                                                                          Then REPORT them! Report any traffic offense made by anyone -- contact your DMV and your newspapers.

                                                                                                            #13.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:54 PM EST
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                                                                                                            +1. You are not that important, your phone call can wait.

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                                                                                                            #14 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:37 PM EST

                                                                                                            Who are you to say which of my phone calls are important? The Government certainly has no right to. Speaking on the phone in the car is no less distracting than speaking to a passenger. If you can't manage to drive safely, you don't deserve the privilege of a license. Simple.

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                                                                                                            #14.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:03 PM EST

                                                                                                            Ed-1117913: If your phone call is so important, you should pull over and devote your entire attention to the call. Wouldn't want something like not wrecking to interfere with your oh-so-important reminder from Sweety to pick up bread and milk.

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                                                                                                            #14.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:22 PM EST

                                                                                                            Whoa, whoa, lets ease up on the sensible arguments and ignore the fact that compared to someone's life Ed's calls are definitely not important!

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                                                                                                            #14.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:29 PM EST

                                                                                                            No. You're missing my point. In my view, pulling over on a heavily trafficked road, especially an Interstate highway, is a dangeous proposition that puts you and other drivers at great risk. It is an unexpected event relative to everything else that happens on the road. There is a reason you're given a few hundred feet to merge into traffic from an on-ramp.

                                                                                                            Speaking on my phone via a hands-free connection does not endanger myself, other drivers, or pedestrians. I am not risking anyone's life, including my own, to make or receive a phone call in the car. I am cognizant of the risks of driving distracted, have participated in advanced driver training, and have a clean record. In the humble opinion of my insurance provider: I'm good at driving a car. Whether anyone else thinks my personal business is or is not important is not the material issue, it is whether you possess the common sense to be a responsible driver and whether phone calls are really the issue at hand.

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                                                                                                            #14.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:59 PM EST

                                                                                                            Ed-1117913: I am not risking anyone's life, including my own, to make or receive a phone call in the car.

                                                                                                            Bullsh!t. You may think you're not, but you are. Everyone I know says "I can drive and cell at the same time". They can't. Some of them are so haphazard I've jumped down their throats, in front of their own children who were in the car that almost wrecked because Mommy thought she was all that.

                                                                                                            Get over yourself. Any bit off attention that isn't aimed at driving is working against your driving. Common sense. Deal with it.

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                                                                                                            #14.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:11 PM EST

                                                                                                            Any bit off attention that isn't aimed at driving is working against your driving.

                                                                                                            We may have a difference of opinion, and we can debate the factors that go into this all day, but I can't tell you that you're wrong there.

                                                                                                            I still think this potential legistlation is bunk. Though there should be penalties for accidents arising from distracted driving, whether it is via fines or denial of insurance claims. To specifically reference hands-free cell phone use, which is one of the least distracting things you could do, while ignoring the hundreds of other ridiculous activities people engage in behind the wheel unrelated to driving, is extremely short-sighted.

                                                                                                              #14.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:31 PM EST

                                                                                                              Ed,

                                                                                                              What you are basically saying is that your right to field a phone call for whatever reason is more important than the safety of your other passengers or other drivers on the road. You are basing that on your self-assessment of your driving skills and the task. The stats for accidents caused by cell phone use says you are wrong. No call is worth a human life. Just pull over or get the call later...oh and your claims that pulling out of traffic is too difficult is ridiculous.

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                                                                                                              #14.7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:53 PM EST

                                                                                                              Ed-1117913: We do have a difference of opinion.

                                                                                                              You want "penalties" in case of accidents. We already have those, and you see how well they work.

                                                                                                              I want to prevent the accident. Problem solved before it exists.

                                                                                                              Which makes more sense?

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                                                                                                              #14.8 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:48 PM EST

                                                                                                              Eugene, but if we're going to ban talking on a cellphone even with a handsfree device, then how come talking to your passenger isn't considered distracting? If anything it could be more so as many will turn to face the person they are speaking to (including people in the backseat).

                                                                                                              A little common sense is needed. I am 100% for banning cellphone use unless it is handsfree and that includes dialing. But I have to admit further than that it gets a little fuzzy in my mind as to how far we should take it.

                                                                                                                #14.9 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:37 PM EST

                                                                                                                Voter-in-LA: Drivers shouldn't be conversing with passengers. They shouldn't be on the phone, eating lunch, doing their make-up...They should be DRIVING. Of course you can't stop people yakking if they're side-by-side, but you can electronically disable a cell phone.

                                                                                                                As Ron White said: You can't fix stupid. Stupid people are always going to be stupid, always going to think they can handle things average humans can't. And they're always going to be wrong. Unless we decide to start denying morons licenses, it makes sense to make driving less of a hazard for everyone they encounter.

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                                                                                                                #14.10 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:03 PM EST

                                                                                                                No call is worth a human life. Just pull over or get the call later...oh and your claims that pulling out of traffic is too difficult is ridiculous.

                                                                                                                It is the act of pulling IN to traffic, or even being present on the shoulder, that is dangerous. I never said "difficult"

                                                                                                                What you are basically saying is that your right to field a phone call for whatever reason is more important than the safety of your other passengers or other drivers on the road. You are basing that on your self-assessment of your driving skills and the task. The stats for accidents caused by cell phone use says you are wrong.

                                                                                                                Yes. I suppose that is exactly what I am saying. I would like to see whether those statistics specifically cite the use of an integrated hands-free device, or if they are for "cell phone use" generally whether that includes headsets, texting, holding the phone to your head, etc. There is more than one way to use a phone, and some of them are more practical than others in certain situations. I would never drive with my phone to my ear, it's distracting.

                                                                                                                Drivers shouldn't be conversing with passengers.

                                                                                                                Remind me never to take a car trip with you! Seriously, if you can't speak and drive effectively at the same time, you may want to reconsider your method of transportation.

                                                                                                                  #14.11 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:00 PM EST

                                                                                                                  Ed,

                                                                                                                  A couple of quick samples of the myriad of articles on the relative dangers of of hands free vs hand held cells use while driving:

                                                                                                                  Sunday, May 23, 2010

                                                                                                                  New Jersey statistics show that talking on a hands-free cell phone while driving can be just as dangerous as talking on a hand-held phone.

                                                                                                                  Between 2006 and 2008, people using hands-free phones were involved in 4,530 crashes, according to state Department of Transportation records that attribute cell phone use as a cause of the accidents. That number is only

                                                                                                                  18 percent lower than the 5,541 crashes during the same period involving people who were illegally using hand-held cell phones. Talking on a hand-held phone while driving has been illegal in New Jersey since 2004. Talking on a hands-free phone while driving is not illegal in New Jersey.

                                                                                                                  A motorist is also almost as likely to be injured or killed when involved in a crash while using a hands-free cell phone.

                                                                                                                  State Department of Transportation’s accident records for 2006-08, the latest available, show that crashes involving hands-free cell phones injured 1,834 people and killed 10 statewide. Crashes with people using hand-held phones injured 2,317 people and killed 16 in those three years....

                                                                                                                  pressofatlanticcity.com/news/top_three/article_dcab06b6-6614-11df-9e65-001cc4c03286.html

                                                                                                                  -or-

                                                                                                                  Driving while using a handsfree cellular device is not safer than using a hand held cell phone, as concluded by case-crossover studies. epidemiological, simulation, and meta-analysis. The increased "cognitive workload" involved in holding a conversation, not the use of hands, causes the increased risk. For example, a Carnegie Mellon University study found that merely listening to somebody speak on a phone caused a 37% drop in activity in the parietal lobe, where spatial tasks are managed.

                                                                                                                  The consistency of increased crash risk between hands-free and hand held cell phone use is at odds with legislation in many locations that prohibits hand held cell phone use but allows hands-free. Nevertheless, dialing a cell phone is more distracting than talking on a cell phone, and hands-free devices that offer voice-dialing may reduce or eliminate that increased risk.

                                                                                                                  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_and_driving_safety#Handsfree_device

                                                                                                                  -or-

                                                                                                                  Cell Phones and Driving

                                                                                                                  www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=stats%20on%20hands%20free%20cell%20phone%20use%20and%20driving&source=web&cd=12&ved=0CI4BEBYwCw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.house.leg.state.mn.us%2Fhrd%2Fpubs%2Fcellphdrvg.pdf&ei=pH7oTue_FY2ltweursDbCg&usg=AFQjCNFHl_HJgJkjUYvw4peu7V7mudgMJA&cad=rja

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                                                                                                                  #14.12 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:17 AM EST

                                                                                                                  Eugene

                                                                                                                  but you can electronically disable a cell phone

                                                                                                                  That has been discussed a few times with a cellphone that is moving between towers at a predetermined pace being disabled from making calls. However, that in reality would also prevent passengers in cabs and limos (or the 1% in the back of their private cars) being able to make calls.

                                                                                                                  While something needs to be done, finding the right method to combat stupidity behind the wheel isn't that easy without affecting others.

                                                                                                                    #14.13 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:18 AM EST

                                                                                                                    Voter-in-LA:

                                                                                                                    Yes, sometimes the intelligent have to suffer with the idiots. And as I've said before, no phone call is that important. Stop the car/cab/limo and get out if you have to, eventually people will realize their calls AREN'T that important after all.

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                                                                                                                    #14.14 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:56 PM EST
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                                                                                                                    I think it's a great idea. I hope they make it a reality.

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                                                                                                                    Reply#15 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:38 PM EST

                                                                                                                    You're as stupid as them. Go ahead, give up your freedoms for the idiots that use them while driving.

                                                                                                                      #15.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:20 PM EST

                                                                                                                      couldn't agree with you more man

                                                                                                                        #15.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:35 PM EST

                                                                                                                        meaning raptor not the sheep he repied to

                                                                                                                          #15.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:44 PM EST

                                                                                                                          Go ahead, give up your freedoms for the idiots that use them while driving.

                                                                                                                          You mean the freedom to risk other people's lives?

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                                                                                                                          #15.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:57 PM EST

                                                                                                                          Totally agree with you!!!

                                                                                                                            #15.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:06 PM EST

                                                                                                                            Raptor ... so can I assume that YOU don't use them while driving and so won't be giving up ANY liberty like those "other idiots"??

                                                                                                                              #15.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:20 PM EST
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                                                                                                                              Simple enough to enforce. My 16 yr old son's phone has an app that you can set to disable the phone and texting while the gps detects motion of x speed, you can also set a delay as to how long it is disabled once the movement stops.

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                                                                                                                              Reply#16 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:39 PM EST

                                                                                                                              great!

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                                                                                                                              #16.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:51 PM EST

                                                                                                                              Those apps have a fatal flaw. If he's a passenger they still disable the device. The better solution is to fine and jail people who cause accidents. It doesn't matter what the distraction is, there's no reason to discriminate against mobile phone users while people apply makeup, shave, read, smoke, and eat behind the wheel without consequence. Make it all illegal or none of it.

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                                                                                                                              #16.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:55 PM EST

                                                                                                                              So even when I'm a passenger in a car, I wouldn't be able to use my phone?

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                                                                                                                              #16.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:01 PM EST

                                                                                                                              I have been riding my motorcycle for years and I still smoke, talk on cell phone, drink a beer, and I have never had a problem. I have not worn a helmet in 20 years. My CHOICE!! Not anyone elses

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                                                                                                                              #16.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:17 PM EST

                                                                                                                              I wouldn't put it past the idiots!

                                                                                                                                #16.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:18 PM EST

                                                                                                                                "The better solution is to fine and jail people who cause accidents."

                                                                                                                                The problem with that solution is that following the accident, it's too late for the person who was a victim.

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                                                                                                                                #16.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:21 PM EST

                                                                                                                                The problem with that solution is that following the accident, it's too late for the person who was a victim.

                                                                                                                                All of the safety features and legistlation in the world can't eliminate the fact that accidents are just a part of driving cars. It's not idiot-proof and it's simply just not something we are designed to do. Learning how to drive safely and defensively will go a lot further than banning distracted driving.

                                                                                                                                  #16.7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:10 PM EST

                                                                                                                                  Good idea. PS: Track his movements if necessary. You may be surprised. Maybe even be able to keep him and others alive.

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                                                                                                                                  #16.8 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:57 PM EST

                                                                                                                                  Mark Johnson,

                                                                                                                                  Those apps also have another fatal flaw. They can be turned off or disabled.

                                                                                                                                    #16.9 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:31 PM EST
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                                                                                                                                    Unfortunately, there are too many people who can't walk and chew gum at the same time who are driving and talking, texting, typing, reading, etc.. We can all thank these morons for new laws written that common sense should cover in the first place. (BTW, why is it called "common sense"? It's not that common anymore...)

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                                                                                                                                    Reply#17 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:39 PM EST

                                                                                                                                    I agree with you. If sense WAS COMMON, perhaps not as many laws would have to be put into efffect.

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                                                                                                                                    #17.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:04 PM EST
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                                                                                                                                    Well finally someone knows how many lives this would save each year. My guess, Congress won't pass it. They are no smart enough. I mean the Govnmt should have already passed no smoking at all in any public buildings, but because of lobbying they don't.

                                                                                                                                      Reply#18 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:40 PM EST

                                                                                                                                      Depending on where you live, there are laws that don't allow smoking in public buildings. Most of the counties in Texas are smoke free. It's generally not up to the Federal Government to enforce those types of laws. It's up to the state and local Governments to do that, which they have done.

                                                                                                                                        #18.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:02 PM EST

                                                                                                                                        Lol, those are grossly overestimated. A few studies have contradicted these findings. Google is a powerful tool.

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                                                                                                                                        #18.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:28 PM EST
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                                                                                                                                        i approve but no bluetoot r u out of your @!$%#ing mind,do u have better things to do,dumb ass bureaucrats. for commercial vehicles $2,750 fine,looks like they r after the money not safety.

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                                                                                                                                        Reply#19 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:41 PM EST

                                                                                                                                        Don't forget that they have no legal right to pass such a law and that the burden of enforcing it falls on the states as usual. It would be quite another thing if they simply said they discourage using electronic devices. If they get serious about it, they will find a way into bribing the states to pass such a law individually like they did with the drinking age.

                                                                                                                                          #19.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:46 PM EST

                                                                                                                                          How about a ban on alcohol in the veins of a driver of a car (any amount)? Since 1948, more than 1,600,000 people have been killed by drunken or otherwise impaired drivers and another 10,000,000 plus maimed for life and these people are talking about banning cell phones? Come on Washington - get real. Focus on some priorities for a change. They even want to take away our guns which have killed far fewer people than the drunk behind the wheel. I cannot believe this country. Where are the priorities?

                                                                                                                                            #19.2 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:12 AM EST

                                                                                                                                            @ShelRama, Who wants to take your guns away?

                                                                                                                                            Are you aware that numerous studies have proven that the use of cell phones, either voice or texting, is as dangerous or even more dangerous than driving while intoxicated? The use of Bluetooth or Ford's Sync system doesn't significantly change the situation because your brain is more focused on the conversation because you are extremely insulated from the speed and danger of driving by modern cars.

                                                                                                                                            If you don't want to read the research studies because of the big words you can view the proof in a episode of Mythbusters on Youtube because they came to the same conclusion that drunks and phone users are equally dangerous behind the wheel of a car.

                                                                                                                                            If you want to chat or text then pull over and sext to uncle JimBob because I am sick and tired of having to take evasive action from morons who are chatting on their phones at 65mph.

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                                                                                                                                            #19.3 - Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:17 AM EST
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                                                                                                                                            All the dumb-butts in congress are going to do is make criminals out of citizens, mostly. The idiots who want to (1) brush their teeth, (2) read the paper, (3) fondle their girlfriends, (4) apply makeup, (5) search the purse for something, (6) adjust the girdle/boxers, (7) eat a big mac, (8) fiddle with the CD player, (9) light a cigarette, and (1) talk on the cell phone, are going to do it anyway. You cannot legislate the particulate matter which is human behavior, and a total ban on cell phones in cars will be as effective as a total ban on alcohol was during prohibition. Education is ok, a meaningless ban is . . . well, meaningless.

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                                                                                                                                            #20 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:41 PM EST

                                                                                                                                            If this total ban would have been in affect 17 months ago my daughter might still be with us. Generally I go along with the "you can't legislate away stupidity" crowd but in this case I hope they pass the legislation, may save lives. If it saves 1 life it's worth it.

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                                                                                                                                            #20.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:26 PM EST

                                                                                                                                            I am very sorry for your loss, however, I do not feel this is a federal government issue.

                                                                                                                                            Not directed at you red-830681, but I'd bet money each person who is for this out-right ban has been a distracted driver at some point in their life, whether they were rubbernecking (staring at an accident, a cop pulling someone over, or other distractions on the roadside) or eating, drinking, changing the radio, reading, etc. At what point do you draw the line? Drivers will find a way to take their mind off their long commutes.

                                                                                                                                            I drive 2+ hours a day in stop-and-go traffic. Is it okay to use my phone in that kind of traffic? I mean, I'm traveling around 15 mph most of the time. If I am anything, it's a distracted phone talker, as I trail off the conversation when I need to pay attention to the road. I try to avoid texting, but I do it sometimes when I'm not in stop-and-go traffic and find it rather stupid/scary/dangerous.

                                                                                                                                              #20.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:43 PM EST

                                                                                                                                              Red, probably not. If the person wasn't distracted by whatever they were distracted by at the time, they would have found a new distraction: finding a new song, fishing the cigarette lighter off the floor, a shiny object on the side of the road.

                                                                                                                                              Fact of the matter is we can 'ban' anything we want, the only thing that will actually SOLVE the problem is driverless cars. Until then, the next best thing is better training.

                                                                                                                                                #20.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:00 PM EST

                                                                                                                                                I will have to respectfully disagree as well. I can't imagine losing my kids to an irresponsible driver, but having a cell phone in the car is important too. I have used it to summon help when I've been stuck in the snow, to call the troopers' non-emergency number when there has been a wreck without injuries, to find out that my nephews were locked out their house after getting off the bus in the winter, to get a call from my daughter's school that she was sick and needed picked up when I was not home to get the call at my house, etc.

                                                                                                                                                Every human life is very important, but I do not believe that saving one life is worth giving up many freedoms. I do not even know if it is worth it for 3,000 lives. But existing laws about texting and talking while operating a vehicle should continue to be enforced, as the state level. Making the same law at the federal level doesn't make it any more illegal, and making new laws does not mean people will obey them.

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                                                                                                                                                #20.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:25 PM EST

                                                                                                                                                Brad, if it happened to you I'd bet you'd be agreeing with the ban too. That's the problem, people thinking only about themselves and not how their behavior affects everyone else. Spouting rhetoric to justify the loss of life is pretty lousy.

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                                                                                                                                                #20.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:25 PM EST

                                                                                                                                                hoosier-3171992: In stop and go traffic, that is the TIME to be more vigil and NOT to be distracted!!!!

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                                                                                                                                                #20.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:01 PM EST

                                                                                                                                                JLM-268998: If you were mired down in snow you were not moving but rather stopped. And it would not be a problem if you pulled over. My life, or someone else life, is MORE important than anyone's rights to drive while distracted by a cell phone. PS: I drive a motorcycle so that REQUIRES me to pull over to use my cell phone and never have I encountered any problems.

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                                                                                                                                                #20.7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:08 PM EST

                                                                                                                                                PS: I drive a motorcycle so that REQUIRES me to pull over to use my cell phone and never have I encountered any problems.

                                                                                                                                                You've never seen Bluetooth integrated helmets, then? Surely, you have to be more vigilant on a bike due to having less visibility to other drivers, less protection, and more mechanical operation to be concerned with, but you can still talk and ride a bike at the same time, no?

                                                                                                                                                  #20.8 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:40 PM EST

                                                                                                                                                  In case you hadn't noticed the NTSB deems motorcycles unsafe and would like to ban them as well. I just love how these government enities try to dictate how "we the people" should live our lives, and try protect us from ourselves because we are not capable of making our own choices in life.

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                                                                                                                                                  #20.9 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:48 PM EST

                                                                                                                                                  to ban all american drivers ????? wtf---i have to unamerican me to have a right :-(

                                                                                                                                                    #20.10 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:09 PM EST

                                                                                                                                                    Just when did the NTSB say they wanted to ban motorcycles?

                                                                                                                                                      #20.11 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:31 PM EST

                                                                                                                                                      No Apologiies,

                                                                                                                                                      Peoples right to Ride a motorcycle has nothing to do with endangering the lives of other people due to the distraction from people talking and texting while trying to drive. People have been seriously injured and died because of peoples inabilties to drive,text, or talk. It's time to get the phones off the road and drivers back in their cars.

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                                                                                                                                                      #20.12 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:52 AM EST

                                                                                                                                                      JLM-268998 - if you're stuck in the snow, your vehicle isn't moving and you cell will work. Gee whiz people, pay attention to the details. The proposed device would prevent cell phone use in your car while your car is moving. Cop cars and other emergency vehicles wouldn't be affected, and if you aren't moving, you aren't either.

                                                                                                                                                      The bigger point is, why do we all feel this huge need to be electronically connected all the time? When you get in your vehicle, you are there for one thing - to drive. So hang up your danged phone and drive and if you need to talk on the phone so bad, pull over and deal with it. I have no sympathy for people who think they should be able to yack away on the phone while driving. I call my husband before I leave wherever I am to tell him on my way home or making a stop or ask him if he needs me to stop anywhere for him. If I stop somewhere, I check in with him again - not because I'm on a leash but just to take advantage of the time when I'm not driving, in case he needs something.

                                                                                                                                                      Hands-free, maybe, but what is this obsession with having a cell phone attached to your head all the time?????

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                                                                                                                                                      #20.13 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:32 PM EST

                                                                                                                                                      My impression of the article was that cell phones would be disabled in vehicles (no specification about whether it was moving). I do agree that a person should pull over to text or dial a number, but you can't control when you receive a call.

                                                                                                                                                      Hands-free, maybe, but what is this obsession with having a cell phone attached to your head all the time?????

                                                                                                                                                      It depends on your situation. I live in rural Alaska, and my daily commute is 80 miles. My husband's daily commute is 5 miles. There isn't much in between, and we have to work and live somewhere, so that's how it works out. Mechanical troubles, road closures, and unforeseen events are a fact of life. Not daily, but certainly a few times a year. Back before cell phones, you pull over, put on your hazard lights, and someone would drive you to a gas station to make a pay phone call. That's not how it works any more. You use your cell phone, and most people expect you to have one, so they don't pull over for you unless you're stuck and they have a pickup truck with rope. If I have errands, I combine them with my trip to town, so if the school needs me or someone needs me to pick up something, they call - rather than spend an hour driving back to town after I get home. And I receive those calls mostly when I'm driving because I have a long commute. Well, there's *my* answer to your question.

                                                                                                                                                        #20.14 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:18 PM EST
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