Nut job.

Perhaps he should stand up for gun control now. I'm sure his wife would agree if she werent in the ground due to a gunshot wound.

Sad he survived and others didn't. When a tragedy like this happens and you still hate your genes are not needed. Why didn't he protect his wife by not going to a place where there was possible danger, from people like himself. Yes, crazy statement, just like his.

The guy's a complete @$$ hole. Ultraconservative = ultra dick.

I don't see what's wrong with a person stating his own opinion, contrary to your's or not. He didn't say or insinuate or say anything derogatory, what's your problem. Do you think everybody should believe as you do? Are you that arrogant? Or maybe I have you all wrong, so why don't you be more specific with your intentionally sarcastic remark.

Cygnus.... like it or not, 99.99993624% of all guns in the United States killed no today. That's pretty assumming and ignorant of you to say his wife would agree,... or are you a liberal and believe that you know what's best for EVERYBODY.

Duphas, 99% of child molesters didnt molest today, yet they should be done away with. Same with 99% of pitbulls, rottweilers, and dobermans. And probably a larger number of drinking and smoking related deaths, yet they still seem to stay legal too.

He has a right to his opinion. Sad that his wife had to lose her life, though. The part about it being Giffords' husband's fault for not having security in place takes the cake for delusion, however.

yes indeed, a crazy statement. This man had his wife murdered and he was there to see it. he has every right to be angry and to express that anger.

Funny, Giffords does not have a "liberal" voting record. She is generally considered a "conservative Democrat."

I guess you can't please some people.

That he says that Giffords' husband should have had security there, almost makes you feel like this could be a warning - from someone that is somewhat unhinged.

Sir - thank you for your service, and I'm sorry for your wife's unfortunate end.

That said, you're old enough to know that if you can't say something nice about someone, especially when that person is a United States Senator that was just shot in the head, perhaps you should refrain from saying anything at all.

Politicizing the death of your own wife doesn't seem a very loving act.

It is a shame that a former soldier would take such a radical view in this tragic situation. He is clearly crazy and bitter. While he has a right to state his views and opinions we also have the right to judge him on those views. Being conservative is one thing, being ultraconservative is radical at best and pretty much strait lunacy. Gotta love how Fox News just breeds these types. Way to go Rupert!

Cygnus, you're comments about dogs is stupid. There are NO bad dogs,just bad owners.

I am deeply sorry that he lost his wife. I wish him peace and solace in his sunset years. I hope he will find it in his heart to redirect his misplaced anger. I find it dismaying that so many respond with cruelty to this man. He is obviously in pain and needs help.

By the way I guess I am one of those liberals that the 'hate spewing' Neocons and Tea Partiers on here are talking about. I don't want your guns and I plan on keeping mine. Go find a cause that hasn't already been settled by the Supreme Court.

My father was a Marine and fought on Okinawa during WWII. Before he passed away, he told me he admired Rep. Giffords' courage ...and my father hardly ever voted for a Democrat. As a Marine, he did not let his personal opinions cloud his judgment of someone's character. It's tragic that the former Marine in Tucson lost his wife, but to blame Giffords' husband for not providing enough security shows only that he cannot control his own anger and bias. No true US Marine allows that happen. Semper Fi!!!

Attitude, that says it all. It's their attitude that gets me. The better than tho, all knowing. While he didn't say he hated her - he said she makes him want to vomit - that's a ATTITUDE if I ever saw one.

I wonder why he chose to put his wife in danger by taking her to that gathering knowing Giffords had received death threats? Did he consider complaining and whining worth that risk?

God works in mysterious ways. Try to find a silver lining.

"One less bell to answer... one less egg to fry."

This article is embarrassing. MSNBC should feel ashamed for their second-hand reporting of this yellow journalism. Essentially, anonymous reporters have found an elderly man, who very tragically lost his wife, and have published his angry and irrational rantings. It exploits this victim, insults other victims, and presents nothing the least bit newsworthy to readers. There is no news present in this story. Nothing the man says is an assertion, or support, of a fact in contest about this tragedy. It's quite pathetic that a major media house would publish this.

This man seems to be filled with hate at a time you would think he would have learned that hate is so completely destructive. I am filled with pity and sorrow for this totally self centered individual who refuses to learn the language of love and humility!

Sorry for your loss, Mr. Morris - but I have no sympathy for your motivation.

Lanikai Ron, I agree there are many troubling comments on this thread. I hate to point out that your's troubles me too. Instead of turning this tragedy into a Lib vs Conserv battle why not just accept it for what it truly is- the bitter ravings of a grieving man who lost his wife in a tragedy. Let's take some lessons from this and understand that the very hate that we are showing each other in this thread is the same hate that ended those lives on that terrible day.

"It's quite pathetic that a major media house would publish this"

That is the funniest thing I have read today. MSNBC is a propaganda machine like all major networks.

Journalism in this country died along time ago!

This man was bitter before he lost his wife. I'm not sure the tragedy has changed him.

from Joseph makes sense, there is no reason for this article. the guy is bitter. Yes I understand that from losing his wife of so many years but it certainly sounds like he had a nasty side before the event even happened.

Everything becomes "us versus them" to you folks who are on the conservative side of aisle, it seems. Here we have a very embittered man, who apparently wasn't all that happy before this incident (most people complain to their congressional representative through letters or phone calls, not potential heckling at an event!). Understand that this elderly man lost his wife in a tragedy, and of course that probably unhinged him! But to make this a "all you "Libtards" (God I hate that word, as much as I hate the word "Repugs") kind of thing is just childish and petty. I guess we have a LOT of childish and petty people in this country.

I don't see what's wrong with a person stating his own opinion, contrary to your's or not. He didn't say or insinuate or say anything derogatory, what's your problem.

American Dreams - There is nothing wrong with stating ones opinions, and I wouldn't berate a man for stating what he believes. But, to state that every time one sees a particular person it make one want to vomit is certainly stating, not insinuating, some thing very derogatory.

That too is his right, as it is mine to view this person as a bitter, pathetic, ideologically driven individual, with very little ability to see anybody outside his narrow political viewpoint as human. Such people exist on the left too, and regardless of their political bent, are best avoided.

I am sorry for his loss, but his remarks regarding Giffords say a great deal more about him, than they do about the Congresswoman.

BTW: I was not one who voted to collapse your post.

Yes, he's entitled to his opinions and we're entitled to disagree. He made the news because he's such an extreme case, which probably means he's unhinged and was probably that way long before his wife died. Giffords is his Congresswoman whether he likes it or not and he needs to live with that and stop harassing her. Apparently that's the only way he knows how to communicate.

What is amazing to me is how the Conservatives are still trying so hard to distance themselves from the likes of Jared Lee Loughner. He believed in smaller government. He does not believe in governing body. This much like the Libertarians basic belief... Oh, yes women should have no involvement iin area of power, especially governing...

Get over it! The dude is a conservative. However, conservatism was not the reason why he was a nut. He was born that way. Geez.

LogicalAmerican,

RE: your post 31.28

So you are an expert in the field of Journalism? From what school of journalism did you graduate? What EXACTLY are your professional Journalistic credentials? None! I should have known, it shows in your post. Sorry for asking the above questions! Right, we should all just take your post as gospel, you know what makes a good, even great, journalistic publication and article. Sure, whatever!

First of all, my right to carry a firearm is indisputable, inalienable and without question....says so in the Bill of Rights! As is my right to say and think what I please...also in the Bill of Rights.

Second of all, if you think you are going to change that in my lifetime, you can shove it!!

@ George from Wa, mob rules (majority rules like you're espousing) isn't how America was founded as our Constitution was written to protect our liberty, ensuring the few are afforded the same rights as the many. Left, right, Dem, Rep, none of that dumb $hit matters when it comes to everyone's liberty.

You're right that no one, neither the few nor the many, can force their beliefs on us because of our Constitution, that is why we don't have the American Taliban (the Marine in the article) lashing us.

But this

...the belief that more guns limits the amount of gun violence

is true. W/O an armed populace the government runs ROUGHSHOD over its subjects. Don't believe me, look in history to see how many times it was done. From here in America with the American Indians until now... first you're disarmed and then your enslaved or murdered en masse. Don't believe for a second that "outlawing" guns will stop gun crime because laws don't stop anything, but outlawing guns provides a field of sheep to be fleeced and worse by the government and criminals.

and the hate goes on. I feel truly sorry for this man's loss although he clearly is hating the wrong people. I hope he gets the help he needs to heal from his loss.

SeekingSanity, I wish there were more like you. :)

Takenaka, this man was bitter before he lost his wife? And you know this personally ..? Why because he doesn't have a liberal voting record ? Wow. A man loses his wife, in an attempt to express his political concerns. Does he not have the right to grieve and express himself even now ? And who gets to decide how long his grief should last ? This forum ? Human life is human life. He lost his wife whom he loved dearly. He didn't toss her to the rocks long ago, rather he cherished his marriage and he lost his mate to an unnatural, terrible event. I do not think this man's unfortunate event deserves a single bit of criticism. Let it go and drop the hypocrisy and bitterness you folks.

Typical marine with a little man complex. I would bet his misses his wife cause he has no one to abuse any longer

Typical marine with a little man complex. I would bet his misses his wife cause he has no one to abuse any longer

Much as I was offended by this retired Marine's remarks, I find your remark, and some others equally offensive.

George Morris is not typical of anybody or anything except himself. Yes, he seems consumed by hatred towards all things liberal, or even moderate, and more understandably, by grief of the loss of his wife of 54 years.
But this is not typical of the Marines and ex-Marines whom I have met. Nor is hatred and intolerance towards any differing opinions the exclusive province of conservatives.
I've noticed such behavior at other points of the political spectrum. I've even noticed it on this particular thread.

A good conservative position ... blame the victim of the shooting, not the crazy man who committed the shootings. The type of hatred displayed by Morris toward Giffords is characteristic of the right wing hatred of Obama and anyone whose political positions differ from their own. Unfortunately, that type of hatred, ignorance and intolerance has been embraced by mainstream GOP politicians as they pander to the Radical Right.

I hate to say this, but it seems most of you have never lost someone. Death is the great equalizer, but grief is not. This man is obviously grieving for his wife and that can make you say and feel things you've never said or felt before. You do NOT know if he was this way before his wife was violently murdered along with other people that day. Their deaths are completely senseless, moreso, because they weren't the intended victims. And yes, he's PO'd about it, wouldn't you be? I know I would. My step dad passed away from pancreatic cancer, I knew it was going to happen but I still get angry. Could you imagine how he felt that day and every day after?

How dare you people. So what his political views are extreme? This is his grief, and its showing itself in a way that isn't sugar-coated and easy to swallow. Guess what? That's real life. This man (not this former Marine, not this ultraconservative) this MAN isn't afraid to say how most of us are really feeling. He's probably tired of being politically correct, and this is what real life looks like.

Liberals and Conservatives should both get off their soapboxes and realize this man is nothing more than a grieving widow.

@Robert Smith-3294621...you are correct in most of your statement. However, if this thread alone isn't proof that this type of "hatred, ignorance and intolerance" for beliefs that are not ones own is a problem that plagues both sides of the political/social spectrum then I am not sure what would be. This hatred is characteristic of both the right wing hatred of Obama and anyone whose political positions differ from their own, as well as the left wing hatred of all that is conservative. Both sides are beyond pathetic and most of the people in this thread, both left and right, should be ashamed of themselves. It has been one instance after another of the pot calling the kettle black....

This guy sounds as crazy as the guy who shot his wife and the others. What a jerk. Just like the conservatives, he isn't happy unless he's shoving his beliefs down your throat. He needs a mental check up.

How can so many of you feel compassion for Ms. Giffords, who almost lost her life, but NONE for this man who lost his wife AND was also wounded? I do not know why he thinks her husband should have provided security... that decision and responsibility would have been up to her. I may not agree with his opinions, but he has the right to have them. He isn't calling for people to commit violent acts against Ms. Giffords, he said he feels she is unfit to serve. I have felt that due to her substantial injury, she should have stepped down and let someone else represent the people of her state, since she herself was clearly unable. When she is ready, she could run for office again.

He isn't calling for people to commit violent acts against Ms. Giffords, he said he feels she is unfit to serve.

blondeness - He also said seeing her and her husband on TV makes him want to vomit, which is what some people find so objectionable.

That too is his right, and the people here have the right to express their detestation for such remarks.
He also seems to blame Giffords and her husband for her wife's death, which I also find unjustifiable. Again, it is his right to say it, and my right to express my distaste for his remarks.

As to Gabrielle Giffords fitness to serve, that is a legitimate question to raise. But as is often the case, it is not just what you say, but also how you choose to say it that is important.

While this man may have been "unhinged" prior to the shooting death of his wife, we should be careful about labeling him as a crazy jerk now, on the first anniversary of her death. He has experienced a terrible trauma and is likely depressed. Particularly in men, depression can manifest itself as anger, blaming, and unwillingness to recognize the need for psychiatric or psychological treatment.

It's time to be more understanding of traumatized, probably depressed people and resist the urge to criticize and call names.

I can't find even the smallest amount of sympathy for this guy. He apparently is using this tragedy, shared with Rep. Giffords, to promote his own political agenda.

Dear God, we will trade you George Morris for Christina Taylor Green. PLEASE !

Tyler, you are a joke. You ban people for saying libtard, but teabagger is ok. Teabagger - one who teabags.

From the Urban dictionary: teabagging; placeing a mans scrotum ( ball sack) into one mouth. May be done as a joke, or a sexual act.

So, now if I call you a teabagger, that's ok?

Why wasn't he carrying that day? Just curious.

and get off my lawn!

wow, that was funny. I had all caps and the vine reduced them to all small and said no yelling.

You all should give this guy a break. This is an MSNBC blog site. If any of you were offered a sit down dinner with Romney, your statements would include ONLY four letter words. This is his own pain. He is not a liberal, came to complain, and his wife was killed.

I'm sorry she was killed, but she's probably in a better place. This guy sounds like a bonafide ay whole.

Why take it out on another innocent victim??

Yes, most likely he is senile...

agreed

He not senile and he has a right to his opinion. I agree that if I had lost a loved one in the same shooting or worse yet they were severly injured I would be bitter about seeing her getting hundreds of thousands in fre help and touted a hero.

I would love to have dinner with Romney. I would point out his flip flopping hypocritical ways and try to convert him. I mean he really is a Democrat at heart (except for the last few months).

Old, traumatized Fox News watcher. "I will not kowtow to anyone."

He is not confused at all and I agree with him 100%! This whole thing is so politically motivated it is sickening. If Giffords had been a Republican, there would not be any of this hoopla. You would not see any of this on t.v. at all. They all need to give it a rest and stop using her as a pawn. I for one am sick to death of hearing about her. She has been shot in the head with a bullet, she has brain damage. I am glad she is recovering as well as she is, but, she is in NO condition to be in any kind of an office now and maybe not ever.

Noneyabusiness you need to stop watching fox and Bill O'rielly! You don't even know what the word traitor means. Just because someone disagrees with you does not make them a traitor! Thank God yu and your kind are in the minority! I find your comments repulsive!

some news is just simply not fit to print. Who cares what this guy thinks.

Noneya, you are apparently cut from the same cloth as Morris. What is traitorous about stating your opinion? Morris did, and these folks are too. You put it out there, you can expect someone to give it back.

I have to respect Mr Morris for NOT being typical of the hypocrites I know on the far right. Rush Limbough and his anti-drug stand, Newt Gingrich with his "Family Values" stand, both violating the same values they were holding others to...

Hey Noneya. You are correct! This hateful and shortsighted old man does have the right to speak his mind. Similarly, everyone else here has the right to discuss what a mean spirited, self-serving, arrogant old prick he is. That's the great thing about our freedoms - everyone has them. They aren't just his or yours or mine. We all have the right to our opinions no matter how wrong his may be.

Daryl, I am neutral. To make sure I cover any bias, I lost a son in service to this country, who loved what he was doing. MSNBC is my home page. But, I do get tired of reading the very poor comments regarding others opinions here. Such poor language.

And conservative comments are worse.?? I am not sure of that. I go to CNN, CBS and Fox news to compare stories. It is unfortunate that I see more bad language here. And I do not know why. Is it the heavy challenge to our President. Do not know, but people ought to be better, I do think that any person writing poor comments here may never be part of any solution, but just someone bitterly complaining - same as this older man.

It is sad to see this man's comments, but the comments here are worse. Give the old gentleman a break. He did stay private for some time.

@Noneyabusiness

Yes, and the crazy loon that also had something to disagree about and reacted by shotting innocent people, nothing to do with it... yes all caused by the presidents administrations....

and were the ones that are stupid?

He is not confused, he is a jackass. To try and blame Mark Kelley for what happened is absurd. Why would Mark have had any involvement in the security for an event for a member of congress, even if it is his wife. He is not a security specialist, he is/was an astronaut. In any case, if every politician who has death threats sent to them had tight security around them we could never get near a single representative, since most of them have had threats at one time or another. There are just to many lunatics these days who think violence is the solution to everything.

I do not know why the media feels the need to give a platform to people like this. So, he disagrees with Giffords' politics, so do a lot of other people. However, apparently the majority of the people in her district liked her views enough to elect her. What makes this a-hole think that he should be the sole arbiter of who is "worthy of serving." This moron needs to wake up and realize that his candidate lost and that is the way a representative form of government works. As for trying to blame Mark Kelley for his wife's death all I can say is grow up!!! Mark had no involvement in the event and certainly shares absolutely no blame for what happened. I applaud Mark for the support he has given to his wife and the character he has shown in dealing with this tragedy.

Now, the vast majority of people on this vine are actually either right wingers like you or moderates. - Wow, just wow

I don't think this is even news worthy. This guy is just a right wing crank. And if he was a left wing crank I would feel the same way. He thinks that her husband should have had better security because she had death threats? And what was the source of the death threats? Right wing cranks like him fueled by tea party hate, Rush Limbaugh hate and Fox news hate. Extremists on both sides of the political spectrum are ruining the political discourse in this country.

It's tragically sad that Mr. Morris lost his beloved wife. It is also sad, perhaps even more so, that he is so blinded by political rage and, perhaps, his pain that he cannot see fit to treat others with some semblance of decency.

Contrary to the view of some here, not all of us on the politically progressive side of things are as rude and insulting as some of those on the opposite side of the political divide. There are crazies on both sides of the aisle. If you don't want to meet with the President, that's obviously your right; but don't assume I wouldn't welcome the opportunity to talk to Mr. Romney, or any of the other Republican challengers. Most of those running for office -- whether I agree with them or not -- are sacrificing a lot to try to help our country. Whether you agree with their positions on issues or not, they deserve to be treated with some respect and dignity. I'm sorry Mr. Morris, and several of the posters here, are incapable of what we used to call good manners.

Let's all set aside this man's politics for a moment, as well as his description of himself as an "ultra-conservative." With all due respect that's irrelevant to his circumstances and his emotional situation.

He lost his High School sweetheart and wife of 54 years in one traumatic and extremely violent moment, .... and he was unable to protect her. Given his expressed beliefs and purpose, it may even have been his idea to attend the event?

That's a whole lot for any person to absorb, and to live with as a survivor. And as any psychologist will confirm human beings very often react to such grief and trauma overloads in entirely inappropriate ways, and with misdirected emotions and extreme anger (not an emotion in itself but a response to emotions).

So, although I do not support his avowed politics, nor any of his comments, I urge everyone to give him room and understanding for his grief, and shock, and the emotions he is feeling (as well as his age).

Give him the same respect that you would wish from others, were you in his place. And hope that those whom love and care about him will urge him to seek and receive grief and emotional counseling, and mental health support.

Mr. Morris,

I understand that you loved your wife deeply and anguish in the loss you have suffered. As you, I am also a very conservative individual. However, Mrs. Gifford's regardless of her political beliefs has also suffered greatly due to the actions of one lone sick individual. I applaud Mrs. Gifford and her husband for they way they have handled their situation over the past 12 months. We only get to see the good side of her recovery and I can assure you she deals with both the physical and mental pain and anguish daily. I am sorry for your loss, the other lives lost and all who were injured. I can only wish Mrs. Giffords and her husband the best on her continued recovery.

Robert in Oregon-

You've got a hell of a lot more feeling for this guy than he does for Gabrielle Gifford.

He went there to hate Gifford and encountered someone who hated her more. I wonder what he thinks about the benefits of hate now?

I wonder what he thinks of Loughner? Does he agree with his expression of hate?

That he says that Giffords' husband should have supplied security, almost makes you feel like this could be a warning - possibly by someone who could be somewhat unhinged.

My father was a Marine and fought on Okinawa during WWII. Before he passed away, he told me he admired Rep. Giffords' courage ...and my father hardly ever voted for a Democrat. As a Marine, he did not let his personal opinions cloud his judgment of someone's character. It's tragic that the former Marine in Tucson lost his wife, but to blame Giffords' husband for not providing enough security shows only that he cannot control his own anger and bias. No true US Marine allows that happen. Semper Fi!!!

Well said RobertinOregon.

Occam's Razor: Romney is buying dinner, right?

daryl-2183015

However, the evidence to date is that right wing fanatics are much more likely to be rude, disruptive and violent than left wing fanatics. Now, the vast majority of people on this vine are actually either right wingers like you or moderates.

What evidence Daryl?
As for evidence to the contrary - Go take a look at the MSNBC story today on the NJ Assemblyman that passed away overnight. Some of the comments on there cheering his death because they believe "that it means there is one less Republican on earth" and that the man somehow "deserved" to die in the bathroom because of his political beliefs is truly disturbing and debunks your entire argument.

I'm sorry for your loss, Mr. Morris. That said, your comments make me want to vomit.

It's your state that allows anyone to carry any concealed weapon they want. Surly, if this man had walked up to the scene with a handgun on his hip, sporting a 30 round clip, your wife would still be alive, because he would have been gang-tackled.

The tragedy here is that you were there to complain about someone taking positions against the very situation that ended with your wife's death. In some ways, I feel very sorry for you, but in the stretch of a year, you have only nursed your anger into a debilitating rage, and only you are to blame for that.

'TheRealChris' wrote: "Robert in Oregon- You've got a hell of a lot more feeling for this guy than he does for Gabrielle Gifford. He went there to hate Gifford and encountered someone who hated her more. I wonder what he thinks about the benefits of hate now? I wonder what he thinks of Loughner? Does he agree with his expression of hate?"

REPLY: Chris, I suspect your questions are rhetorical, but I'll offer a response anyway.

Yes, I feel compassion ("feeling") for any human being in such circumstances dealing with overwhelming grief, regardless of other irrelevant issues such as the person's politics, social beliefs or whether they are nice to their neighbors. All irrelevant with respect to grief, and responses to grief.

It has only been a year since he watched his wife of 54 years murdered before his eyes. My gosh, I am still feeling grief two years after the death of a pet!

Furthermore, I read these Newsvine discussion threads and wade through the vitriol, and insults, and slanders from the 'left' in response to and criticism of the vitriol, and insults, and slanders from the 'right' -- and vice versa -- and it is all an irrelevant distinction without a grain of difference.

There is a distinct difference here Diane Brown + numbers.

We did see it on TV, and heard hateful things out of the mouths of public officials like Jan Brewer promoting "...second amendment solutions..." only I believe she was hoping for a larger target (like...) not a local congresswoman.

He is not confused at all and I agree with him 100%! This whole thing is so politically motivated it is sickening. If Giffords had been a Republican, there would not be any of this hoopla. You would not see any of this on t.v. at all.

And when s*&t hit the fan there were concerted efforts to diffuse the blame. "Clarence Dupnik, Arizona Sheriff, Criticized By Sen. Jon Kyl Over Shooting Comments".

WASHINGTON -- Some of the most pointed comments in the wake of Saturday's tragic shooting in Arizona regarding the dangers of vitriolic political discourse have come from Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, who said his state has "become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry." As a consequence of speaking out, Dupnik is now coming under attack, with a talk radio host even calling for his resignation.

"When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government," said Dupnik at a press conference Saturday. "The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous. And unfortunately, Arizona I think has become sort of the capital. We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry."

There are consequences for yelling fire in a crowded theater, and hijack on an airplane. When you reap what you sow you cannot now somehow disown your actions. So your attempt to normalize this guys obvious unresolved issues is like trying to sweep 400 years of racism under the carpet. No rug can house that kind of filth or cover it up.

IF NOT OBAMA IN 2012 WHOM?

My sympathies on the loss of his wife. But -- yes, I can believe he would turn down the President. Extreme radicals on both sides forget that we should respect the office even if we don't personally respect the President's philosophies. Shame on him for forgetting that.

Gee nonayabusiness,you say all the problems in America today are Obama's fault. I saw on FOX that all of the problems that man has ever had from his first day on earth up to this very second are Obama's fault. War, disease, poverty, alcoholism, cancer, the killing of Christ, all Obama's fault. I know, I saw it on FOX, it's true

Why don't all of you back up a minute and put yourselves in his shoes - Put politics aside also. He and his wife (who he obviously loved very much) went to a meet and greet where she was murdered, he was shot and almost died. How would you feel if you found out that there had been death threats made against the person running the meet and greet and there were no security measures in place? Wouldn't you feel that there was negligence on someone's part? Wouldn't you be pissed? Is that any different then a manufacturer knowing that a part in a car might be defective and not changing it? If you had an accident in that car due to that defective part and your wife died, wouldn't you be mad? You would be screaming for a lawyer and want to have manufacturer's head on a stick. Granted, Giffords' life has been changed but she is still here and her husband, Mark Kelly, has his wife. He faces every day now without his wife. Why is he pissed at Mark Kelly? Easy. He comes from an era where a husband protected his wife. He looks at Mark Kelly and wants to know why he failed, as Morris sees it, his primary role in marriage. Mark Kelly must have known about the death threats. He looks at Giffords and Kelly as failures for not taking any precautions. How would any of you feel? Question - Are we cutting Giffords slack because what happened to her? I haven't seen any discussions about the lack of security at the event in the face of death threats? When someone threatens the POTUS, security is upgraded.

kookla09: just wanted to let you know that the definition of senility is "characterizing old age". It does not refer to diminished cognitive capacity...that would be defined as dementia. Many people greatly misuse the word senility when wanting to convey the idea that the aged individual that they are referring to has memory loss, confusion etc., when the appropriate word is dementia.

I am sure this guy loved his wife very much. And he is still in the grieving stage of anger. Its one of those stages that everyone goes through. However, some people get stuck and can't get out. this guy probably needs some therapy to help him get through the anger and get into acceptance. He should be spending his time enjoying those wonderful memories he had with his wife. Instead he is burning himself up with anger against someone who was merely a victim too. Its certainly not her fault that the gunman was shooting people. But he probably feels better burning inside. Sometimes its far easier to be angry than it is to be sad. I feel sorry for him, but he needs to get this taken care of. I bet his entire family is frustrated and doesn't know what to do for him. And nobody can do it for him, he's got to get through this before he can enjoy the rest of his life.

I hate to say it, but this guy sounds like one of the ones that the FBI (are they the one's who check up on threats to Congressmen?) would have been checking up on prior to the event, had they deemed the "meet the Congressman" event a high security risk.

I find it hillarious, this is the face of the "ultraconservative" Republican party of today. Its probably a good thing he's in his 70's, that means he will be joining his wife soon, although from the tenor of his comments, she might be looking down and wishing she could send him some nice cool water.

I think the man is "sick". And this is what they call the "religious right"???

AtomAnt, you're making too much sense darlin. We cant have that around here... but, yes, I do agree with your position regarding the lashing out of this man over the tragedy. He lost his wife of 54 years and Gifford's husband still has her. He may be reeling in his hurt and suffering and lashing out. Plain and simple.

First, Mr. Morris thank you for your service. I am truly sorry for your loss, I've only been with my wife for about 30 years and her loss would be very hard for me. The way the world is now with all the random acts of violence just going outside can be dangerous. All I can say, in situations like this is,"the Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away, praise be the Lord". I think rep. Giffords and her husband are two heroes, in the service of their country they have suffered much, but have carried on with grace and nobility.

It is sickening to see Giffords in public with her faculties questionable.

Hey, if they let people like you walk around, why not Giffords? At least she has an excuse.

Sir, i understand your grief. But the Giffords did you no harm. President Obama did you no harm. The gunman did. Nothing the Giffords did or did not do did you any harm or would have stopped the gunman. People have opened fire at politicians including presidents with no concern for the amount of security many times in the past.

He is just a bitter man awash in his own loss and guilt. Survivors guilt is very strong though misplaced. This trauma has locked him into a horrible place with the loss of his wife. I think his anguish is misplaced, and I choose to cut him some slack and wish him well with getting on with he rest of his life.

@ray4a Wow, hate much? I'd say your just as much as a hate-monger as the man you claim should lose his life, simply for his opinion. I am sick and tired of seeing so much rudeness and lack of respect on Newsvine [especially people claiming others should lose their lives for their misdeeds] that it makes me want to vomit.

So much hate here...makes me sick. This man needs help and support for his loss, not more hate and anger directed at him, as well as calls for him to die for his beliefs. I see his rage and sadness as a cry for help. He's in terrible emotional distress and lashing out at Giffords, and Mark Kelly.

That being said, this man is clearly distraught by the loss of his wife and is heartbroken [and very emotional] by her loss.

I know if I and my boyfriend were in the same situation, and I were killed, my boyfriend would be the same way [despite my boyfriend being a diehard Democrat]. This man loved his wife more than words can espouse; of course he's going to be angry at Giffords, her husband, and the people who organized the event.

Look where complaining gets you... Why didn't he provide security for his wife?

The man's from Arizona. He's par for the course.

Let's see if I got this straight. A former Marine that's an ultraconservative living in a right to carry state who let himself be caught off guard without his weapon by a crazy shooter but he is bitter at the liberal congresswoman? Yeah, that's figures. How did he survive Vietnam?

Such an understanding , compassionate response from a classy man like yourself Toasty (sarc)

Reliant #2.50

He is just a bitter man awash in his own loss and guilt. Survivors guilt is very strong though misplaced. This trauma has locked him into a horrible place with the loss of his wife. I think his anguish is misplaced, and I choose to cut him some slack and wish him well with getting on with he rest of his life.

You voiced my opinion better then I was attempting to do. Grief over the loss of someone near and dear to them is so incredible hard for some people to get over. My mother never got past the anger stage after my father died and she was an bitter, depressed woman the remainder of her life.

I feel compassion for this man. I understand his comment and where it is coming from but like my mother, I think he is a"STUCK" in the grieving process. It is not for me to tell him shake it off and move on with your life...he has to be allowed the right to grieve in his own way. Everyone has to greive in their own ways. I hope he will in time be able to accept this horrible loss but move on and place his anger on the right person.

The man was full of hate and foolishness before the shooting. He has learned nothing. He was, is and always will be a miserable individual. So sad.

Might as well just collapse every comment. This guys comment is the one that should have been collapsed in the first place

This *news* report is SO filled with irony.

An *ultra-conservative* getting shot by a person with mental health issues....a person who NEVER should have had access to firearms in the first place.

Who shows up to the showboating events for politicians whom they hate and disagree with, to begin with?

Oh, the irony.

Noneyabusiness-2291315 is 100% correct. People here don't seem to subscribe to the same 2nd amendment beliefs as someone with the guts to speak out.

It stopped being a personal view when he started talking to reporters.

It stopped being a personal view when he started talking to reporters.

Krestov - if you want to take that view, then every political candidate from the local dog catcher to presidential candidates should stop talking to reporters. Don't they use the media to express their personal view in hopes of being elected?

The is a free country, and the right to free speech allows him to express his personal opinion to whomever he pleases just like it allows you to post your comment.

well, it's is a personal, public veiw. The two are not the same.

And it's MY personal view that he is a despicable miserable meanspirited old coot.

And yet his personal view ignores the likely initiating event: Sarah Palin putting targets on liberal representatives/senators. Funny how the conservative mind has convenient forgetfulness.

scales67:

At no point did I suggest this person did not have the right to make his comment, so I find your comment slightly perplexing.

My point was this: People often the term "personal view" or "my opinion" as a form of scape-goat clause which they feel excludes them from criticism and/or comment. It does not.

Once our personal views are out in the public arena it ceases to be personal, or belonging to yourself it is now up for scrutiny and comment and one should be prepared to defend your view if you don't like what people think of it, that is the other side of free speech. We have the right to it but others have the right to not like it and tell you why.

@3.5

Yes, I remember now, guns don't shoot people, crosshairs shoot people.

This Morris clown is a typical teabagger. He embodies the traits of the average teabagger perfectly - He's a petty, weak and cowardly douche bag.

vfeinstein,

Your unfortunate use of language discredits your post. Certainly you can express yourself without the over-use of expletives, can't you? In plain English, not real classy.

No one can really know the depth of this mans grief. I don't especially agree with his harsh sentiment, but I cannot stand in judgment.

Kai:

And yet you judge someone on the use of their written language.

Which I hazard to point out contains no expletives and displays why english is so discriptive and fun. With the use of a few words such as "douche bag" vfeinstein clearly defined his feelings and the depth of his feelings rather than use several sentences to do so. Using the vernacular this poster summed up his feeling in a precise and unequivacle manner. Exactly what the written word should do.

Here Here to keeping the more colorful aspects of the English language alive and not washed out into a dreary husk of so called "plain English".

Kai,

My unfortunate use of language? Expletives? You don't stand in judgment yet ... you judge me? What are you, the "Language Police?" LMAO ... okay, I'll give you "plain" English:

Ask me if I give a flying f**k about:

What you think;

What you think is "classy";

What you deem worthy of discrediting; and

What you deem an "unfortunate use of language" ...

teabagging is a sexual act of taking someone's testicles into their mouth, or having someone do it to you.

Vfienstien, you are a teabagger. And FYI: it was a democrat who put crosshairs on the FACE of her opponent in her campaign ads that was the first to use crosshairs. Palin put cross hairs on a map.

So, using all of the progressives talking points, it is the Democrats fault that Giffords was shot, along with too many people.

Another blow for you "Progressives"; Giffords is and has been a Blue Dog Senator. Republicans respect her as much as Democrats. She is socialy liberal, yet fiscally conservative. Go figure.

I would say what a very sad man. His bitterness has taken over his life and his reason and that is very sad. I wonder why he would think that Mark Kelly would have anything to do with security.

I agree with both of you, Goodlookin and pjw. He must have been, even before his wife's unfortunate death, very bitter at the political process in his district...and now, apparently, he has added fuel to vent rage. I feel that such bitter people are very sad, indeed, inrespective of the tragedy suffered.

I suspect this man has been miserable all his life. He seems to be the type that knows his opinion is always right, and is really the only one worth considering. Even if he doesn't agree with the President's policies, what is so wrong with accepting condolences from one human to another? Ultimately, I feel sorry for Mr. Morris, as life is too precious to be so bitter.

He subconsciously shares the blame for being there to 'bitch about how the congresswoman was not representing his conservatives views' in the first place. His hatred for (fill in the blank) placed him and his wife in the wrong place at the right time.

Whether you agree or disagree with this man, he's entitled to his opinion. I'm sorry for his loss and for all the tragedy this event has caused. And yet, I find his comments unfortunate...and irrelevant.

This guy is mad because a Democratic Congresswoman was voting Democratic? The Guy's candidate lost.

So... Does this man feel that he won, despite the results of the election and that despite the fact the republican't lost, the republican't should still serve anyway...

INCREDIBLE!!!

Un huh. Republican I presume.

perhaps the day should be remembered as the "Day that Gabrielle Giffords got shot in the head", since it's obvious that she's the only person in the history of the world to get shot in the head by a human being with a serious mental disorder.

Scary guy, and a blockhead. People like him make me want to vomit. No, I actually do vomit.

Yes. It's sad he views those events this distorted.

May he find peace, although I doubt he will.

dale45auto.....your moniker tell's your story, and neuters your sour remark.

The tragic deaths of that day, shot a whole in everyone's heart. Regrettably, Mr. Morris will likely never heal. He seemingly blames himself, and self-medicates by blaming Gabby and Mark. I pity him.

Tucson Survivor: Giffords 'makes me want to vomit'

Well damn. Tell us how you really feel. Wow.

Wouldn't surprise me if he had the crosshairs map in his house somewhere.

Jasmine--inappropriate and equally as hateful and intolerant as Morris's comments. To imply that the crosshairs maps were anything more than a silly political ploy is disengenuous at best. Apparently, like Morris, anyone who disagrees with YOUR point of view is unworthy of consideration. The two of you represent opposite but equally distasteful extremes of the political spectrum.

He sounds pretty irrational. I'm sorry for his loss, but trying to make it Giffords' fault isn't going to help him or anyone else.

Giffords will outlive his hate probably.That is one consulation.

The people are saying this men is hateful and has an irratical behavior or so on are absolutely right and this guy needs all the help he can get ,but so do all the other people in this country,we all need help, here we are voting for people we try to put in office for years already, and what do we the people get out of this ???absolutely nothing,All these politicians are the same they want these soft jobs and make sure when they leave after a few years they have a good pension and free medical insurance for live,what does the rest of us get after we work our butts off for years,we have to pay for everything and now they even try to steal more from our SS and other small benefits,and that are the people we voted for, something has to change in this country,and soon peopl are scared to get sick because they can't pay the bills.

i think some people need to be in a hopsital cell next to the shooter. this man has every right to feel the way he does, and be honest about. so what if he wont kiss Nobama the Clown's a$$, i wouldnt either. Morals can be bought by some, just not the feeble minded.

"Conservative" Republicans are liberals. The Constitution applies to those they want it to. So, Marilee is correct. It's no different than the (cough) Patriot Act, Clear Skies Initiative, and myriad other Republican tactic of labelling thing the opposite of what they are.

Exactly right, so much hate and vitriol. It was and still so bad that during the shooting when the firefighter emergency was alerted one of the EMT's didn't want to go because I quote "I don't believe in her politics". So if you don't believe in someones politics you can allow them to die or don't help them. They guy was allowed to retire that day. And this man is a wackjob, our whole country is full of wackjobs and that is why so many people where killed that day. Because one wackjob had his convictions and decided to expound on them. This man has his convictions, it's not far fetch for this man to do the same thing that the shooter did. This guy and others male and female are so stubborn and so ignorant of the world that they are a danger to not only themselves but everyone else.

His wife is dead, but I bet anything she doesn't blame Gifford or any democrat or republican she blames the shooter. At his age this man shouldn't be like this, he won't change even with the murder of his wife. Mark my word, this guy is going to kill someone in the few years left of his long miserable life.

I don't see the comment as judgmental - just a reasonable surmise based on Morris' stated beliefs and vehemence. He seems the type to be a suicide by cop -- and take as many others with him as he can. So sad. He needs mental health counseling.

With all this hate still brewing, if I were Gabrielle Giffords, I'd watch my back. This guy probably feels he has nothing to lose and I wouldn't put it past him to attempt to do her in this time.

It would be nice if he could get to a place of happy rememberance for his wife instead of all this hate for a Congresswoman, jeeez. How much are these so-called "liberal" votes going to really impact this guys life anyways?

That said, while I wasn't there, I look at the above picture of her and see her big smile like she's at a party, when this was a much more somber event marking the anniversary of a tragedy. This wasn't a "let's celebrate because Mrs. Giffords said the Pledge of Allegiance" event. Look at the picture below hers and you see two people appropriately devastated. Just an observation.

I too am afraid that Mr. Morris has fed his guilt/hate/anger into a monster without reason. His grief APPEARS to have unhinged the man and he should be watched carefully. He desperately needs some intense counselling to get past the fact that his hate put his childhood sweetheart and wife of 54 years in the line of fire of a madman and that "liberals" nor Congresswoman Giffords nor her husband had anything to do with it. Sarah Palin's "crosshairs" on Giffords MAY have been a trigger in the mind of a very, very sick man. It's sad that anyone should breast feed such hate and let it consume them so. I hope one way or another Mr. Morris gets the mental health treatment he needs before he ..ummm...ends up as Mr. Loughner's cellmate. May peace find his soul.

Buck, idiocy does not even come close to describing your post. I really think YOU should see a doctor, and please do it soon.

Floretta, Dr. Phil is on, you better go now.

Very sad he lost his wife of 54 years, and I understand his anger; however he's angry at the wrong people/person. Only the shooter is at fault in this tragic situation!

The man has my sympathies for losing his beloved wife, but I think this is one of those cases where writing an angry letter maybe would have been more appropriate!

The man is upset because he lost his wife and was shot also.......the anniversary of it probably proviked some harsh feelings that he does not know how to direct.

I do see some issues though but do not blame Ms. Giffords, the media has sensationalized her miraculous recover as sort of a lazuras coming back from the dead and basically forgot all of the other victims, and many people I speak with here tend to direct this at Ms. Giffords when in fact it is the media. I dont think she has the capacity to form whole sentences let alone orchastrate media coverage of herself.

A lot of people here also wonder how long this will go on......we currently have no representation in congress, no one will make the call wether she is capable of serving or not, she rarely even goes to congress at all that I have seen and after a year if she cant do the job she should be replaced until she is well enough to run again.

I hope this man finds some peace with his anger over his loss, as well as the other victims.

That's just it Azrancher, All we have seen, day after day, week after week, month after month, and now most likely year after year, is Giffords or husband on TV. I'm sick to death of hearing about the lady. A lot of good people died that day, but you would never know as the media stumble over Giffords as if she were a god to be worshiped. Enough already.

Very sad he lost his wife of 54 years, and I understand his anger; however he's angry at the wrong people/person. Only the shooter is at fault in this tragic situation!

Depending on who you talk to. Several liberals, some even here feel that Palin is to blame. Because Palin has used a marketing strategy that has been used by politicians to soap makers for decades, that is to put crosshairs on your opponent, and therefore Palin is guilty of murder. I agree that only the shooter is to be held accountable. Can you please explain that to those here that still hold Palin responsible?

His wife was a human shield to protect him.

Who knows, maybe the big marine reacted just like ollie north; ducked to save himself instead of protecting his wife, letting her take the bullets for the both of them. Hero! Maybe!

I agree. Quite unsettling. So, so, sad that he lost his wife in such a violent manner, but you would think given the situation, he'd be a little more forgiving. It's not "security's" fault that his wife was shot. It's the fault of the nut job that did it.

I didn't vote for President Obama and I'm no particular fan of his either, but I certainly wouldn't refuse a visit from him.

Sad all the way around.

At the time of the tragedy, I labeled it the Tea Party Massacre. Remember the bulls eye targets Sarah posted on the Democrats she didn't like. I have always felt that Gabby's survival was a factor in Sarah's dropping off the political circuit.

Why in the world would the media give this poor old deranged widower exposure?

loyaltexan, I could ask the same of Giffords. Oh, and the democrats used those big bulls eye targets also...but I guess you forgot about that.

AZ,

Congratulations, you just made the watch list!

LoyalTexan--why would they give YOU a forum for exposure? And lable me "Another Loyal Texan".

jpeg - Democrats and republicans used crosshairs on districts. Only republicans uses crosshairs on humans.

He comes across as an angry, somewhat out of touch with reality old man.

With the attitude he has, he probably listens to Rush and Beck with a reverence usually reserved for the clergy.

You don't feel sorry for the guy that his wife was murdered in cold blood? And he's the venomous idiot? WOW

Weiser, no one said s/he didn't feel sorry he lost his wife. Keep in mind that he came to complain to Giffords about her liberal voting. So he came to complain, which is his right, and then shooting broke out. It wasn't a liberal shooting anyone or anything to do with Giffords or her fault, and blaming her or her husband makes me sense at all.

I'm sorry for his loss and the obvious grief he is feeling, but spreading hate because HE decided to come to an event and he isn't taking responsibility for that choice won't bring her back and says more about him than anyone else. Instead he chooses to blame Kelly and Giffords it seems, and while I understand it must be hard to see Gabby alive and recovering, neither Kelly, Giffords, nor the president harmed him or her wife. Sounds as if he was a pretty angry guy before it happened, and he needs someone to blame. How about blaming the shooter and the hate rhetoric that is spread all over instead of people who weren't in charge of the event? Disagree with her politics, but geez, it isn't as if she's been on a vacation cruise this last year. No one asked his to kowtow to anyone...he is just angry and spreading his venom and grief. I hope he can heal and find some peace in his life..sigh.

No one said he shouldn't be upset his wife was murdered. But the Gifford's aren't to blame. Blame the guy who bought the gun and shot them all.

Of course they have a higher profile. If they didn't , he would not have been there to hear them speak. Is he upset she wasn't killed along with the others? THAT would be sick.

@WeiserJG - You may want to read rob@Chicago's statement one more time.

It begins with IF.

Hmmm... George Morris sounds like a very mean and cantankerous old fart. I would hate to live next door to him, or even on the same street. As noted by others, he needs help - BUT - those who need help the most do not recognize that anything is wrong with them.

He might have the philosophy that "it's his way, or the highway." I am sorry his wife was killed, but more likely than not, she is in a better place, and without him.

I can only hope that the "SHART fairy" visits him, and decides to make the rest of his life a little more interesting. (Shart = liquid fart).

The truly scary thing about George Morris is this: He probably still has a driver's license and is registered to vote.

I am a disabled veteran who is a Republican.

The congresswoman was holding the rally, security was her responsibility.

Try FOX "news."

Agree with DarkShadow. Please msnbc, how about some editorial judgement? Let's not give the haters a bigger voice.

Well, ugly as it is, it is a story. Like it or not when this guy became a survivor, he achieved a certain celebrity status. It is interesting to read the original story. The link is provided.

This guy could have chosen to just say, no comment, but instead he deliberately chose to make it a story. Here is a guy who has suffered a terrible tragedy, but he proudly sticks to his position as a self proclaimed ultra-conservative who seems to put the politics ahead of both his wife's life and his own. You can call it stubborn or strong willed, but most see it as a terribly misguided sense of priority.

I think this is a noteworthy story. Maybe it is read by some others who have similar leanings and just maybe they will see how terribly destructive this type of attitude can be. It is sad that his wife died, particularly because she had no political leanings and as he himself stated, she had reservations about his opinionated activism. She did not want him to go that day. She followed him to her death because she supported him as her husband, although not necessarily his beliefs. If this man wants to vomit every time he is reminded of the events, he very well should because it is he who is ultimately one of those responsible for her death. But he seems instead to still direct his anger elsewhere.

The man has a right to an opinion and I have no desire to see it supressed, as horrific as I may think it is. In fact there may be merit in it being made public. There are lessons to be learned by this. It's all a matter of what you take out of it.

Funny, Susan, your comment seems like anti-progressive hate, yet you got a platform on MSNBC.

If thisright wing extremist clown didn't spew his hate of a survivor of gun violence and didn't do so with so little class and so much tastelessness and bitterness - this wouldn't be on the news.

He's a sad bitter old man - made even more so by the events of that day. It's got little to do with his extremist conservatism and much to do with spewing hate and vitriol against someone viewed by others as a sort of hero for surviving such a horrible attack (regardless of her politics).

HE went to the media, the media didn't go to him.

Susan-746185 The same reason they give you a platform. It's called freedom of speech!

because MSNBC hates Obama and the democrats and wants the republicans to win so they can make more money.

MSNBC--that bastion of uber-liberal diatribe--hates OBAMA?? What planet are you from, eric?

Socialist Tri-Care? Are you for real? My husband served this country honorably for 20 years, and yes, we pay for Tri-Care. So you are saying that our men and women who have given their best years to us, protecting our freedoms and liberties aren't deserving of some benefit? Screw you!

daryl, time to knock off the pompous liberal blather about Tea Partiers and the GOP. This guy just represents the opposite of your extreme liberal bias, that's all.

Lanikai, perhaps you ought to knock it off. At no pint in Daryl's comment did he even mention Tea Partiers or the GOP. But nice try attempting to read between the lines to find content that was never there that you wanted in order to lash out. It does not matter one iota what he stated in other posts -- this post is the one that matters at the moment. All Daryl was pointing out was that we can disagree politically, but no one has a corner on morality and that those who have different political beliefs can still show respect to one another. Noting that he disagrees on politics, he wanted to show respect for the inherent morality revealed in the previous commenter's post. A very mature sentiment. And your response was to attack him? I find that quite interesting and revealing. It says a lot about your maturity. If respecting others is a symptom of "extreme liberal bias," then sign me up. I'll take that over irrational, blind hatred any day.

hey saddened, since when is "hatred" as you call it "irrational and blind"? it is usually focused on one person, one group, or idea. so if, by focusing, it means blindness, you must be one keen sighted person then.

I sincerely hope Mr. Morris does not own a gun.

saddened, check out daryl's comment 12.3. I cannot help you regarding your lack of reading comprehension. I am not a Tea Partier, not do I know one. I know they are not what liberals would like the uninformed to think they are. But daryl has swallowed the liberal slander regarding the Tea Party. Why is it so many of you are intimidated by those that would like to stop the destruction of our constitution under our liberal fascist President. He signs a law that makes it legal to hold American citizens indefinitely without charges and when doing so he says he would never allow that. Then, why the hell pass a law that allows it to happen? That's just the latest of his actions that threaten this country and those like yourself, I presume, continue support him. I voted for Obama, and when I started speaking out about my disatisfaction with his policies, those like you and daryl labeled me a racist. I voted for Obama thinking he could bring this country together. Instead, he has split us along lines of race and class like no other President in my 63-years on this earth. He continues the Democrats pension for taking from one group of people to pay off the other group for their votes. Sorry saddened, but regarding me, you know nothing of what you speak. Obama fights against any State that tries to enforce laws that are not being enforced by this President, which those States only do because illegal immigrants are a problem for them. He allows weapons to be sold to those they know will get them into the hands of Mexican drug cartels. When those weapons were used to kill one of our own law enforcement officers, his Attorny General claims to know nothing about it even though the paper trail says exactly the opposite. He blames Bush whenever he can for the condition of this nation, but fails to accept blame for his own failed policies. Those like yourself will keep your heads in the sand until there is nothing that separates this nation from other failed and failing socialist countries around the world. I am one of the 47-percenters that are paying taxes and I have a right to speak my piece. I know that upsets the takers out there that support this current liberal administration, but you cannot ignore reality.

I have no use for this hateful man but I believe I would have refused a visit from Obama also. Life is just too short to waste any of it with someone like him.

Weiser, whatever I chose about him coming to visit or not, I can't see myself saying kowtow or being nasty about it. Say no if you like, but really....Kelly didn't do this and neither did Giffords or a liberal. It was hate and unbalance.

I'm about as liberal as you can get and disagreed with almost everyting GWB did and stood for. That being said, if I had lost a loved one and he had called to express condolences or wanted to visit me or my family, I would have accepted that as a gracious offer and would have whole-heartedly accepted. To be visited by the President of the United States, regardless of whether you agree with their politics, is an honor and you would have to be beyond ignorant and/or hateful not to accept it.

I would be thrilled to have a visit from GWB, and I'd like Laura to come along as an added bonus. The two times that my sister met with them they were quite gracious.

It would be hypocritical of me to accept a visit from someone whom I have no use or respect for. I do have respect for the office, just not for him.

Anyone who refuses an invitation to meet with the President of the United States is an idiot. Whether they are a professional athlete or a professional pain-in-the-behind, the President is THE PRESIDENT.

After you meet with him, you can always go back to being an a$$hole, but he will still be the President.

Every person, whether you agree or disagree with them, deserves respect. I am frankly offended that anyone would describe another person as having "no use" for. That is a dehumanizing term, and rude is an understatement.

I am a staunch independent though I lean in the progressive direction, and though I didn't agree with Bush and many of his policies infuriated me, I still would have been honored if I was in that injured position and he wanted to take the time to see if I was alright. It is the mark of a decent and caring person to visit those who are injured, sick, or unwell.

I disagreed with about 90% of everything Bush did as President, but I would never have refused a personal visit from him, especially as a condolence for the loss of a spouse. This guy is petty and hateful, full stop, end of story.

First in what way is this article "TERRIBLE" - this man's attitude or the fact that msnbc published his views that he wanted known so badly?

Second - it was a direct quote from a person that was shot and survived at Gifford's event talking about Gifford to the press. In what possible way this misleading or even taken out of context?

Actually his wife was killed due to Gifford having a meeting that morning so she is responsible in a way. Maybe some security would have been in order.

That's inferring causality where it doesn't exist. Giffords has had scores of meetings that didn't end in loss of life. One was not the cause of the other. Use your brain.

Anytime a Congressional member or high profile person appears in public there is usually an increased local police presence and maybe even some private security. It does not have to be major but even in a supportive crowd things can get wild so crowd control and the ability to block the person from the crowd and/or speed them away safely is mandatory. In the event of violence added armed uniformed officers are vital.

Sheriff Dupenick is a waste of tax money, always has been down here. There should have been at least four to six deputies working the crowd and traffic as a minimum. He has more deputies working the local swap meet than he did this function.

He has a right to his opinion but we don't need to read about it unless he plans on running against Rep. Giffords for her seat.

No one has said he doesn't have a right to his opinion (I can even suggest a few places he could use to vomit in). I am disappointed that MSNBC thought his opinion was worth putting on it's website with such a disgusting headline. I think it is just fine to disagree with Gifford's political views, but it is the kind of hate he is spewing that led to someone shooting at her and killing this man's wife. Disagree all you want, but tone down the retoric and get more respect.

So he should feel like puking every time he hears about the shooting? I can see that he is in sorrow about his wife....but it seems more like he is sorry to hear about the attention that Giffords is getting. And kind of wishes she had died. The man is a nut job. So his wife was killed....how is that Giffords fault, or a liberals fault or a ultra-conservative's fault. It is the fault of a nut job. It sounds like the only reason he was there was to scream and holler at Giffords for her politics.

Maybe because he implies that his wife's death, if not the fault of Giffords, was the fault of Giffords' husband. That's just ridiculous. He's allowed to disagree with her, but this level of hatred seems a bit much.

He's perfectly allowed to disagree with her. It's MSNBC's decision to write and publish such a dispicable excuse for reporting that I find troublesome. Promoting this man's contempt of a US congresswoman serves no purpose other than to feed thoroughly unjustified and incoherant anger on the extreme ends of our political spectrum, the kind of atmosphere which provokes the more unstable individuals to take drastic action.

There will always be acts of madness in this world, like what happened to Congresswoman Giffords and her constituents that day last year. But it would do all of us well to remember that such a tragedy is beyond partisanship, and political disputes. I'm not saying that this man should have to be told to be quiet, but it's a poor choice on MSNBC's part to lend him a microphone when he really doesn't have an important point to make.

I am so sorry for his loss but his political views are irrelevant. Why doesn't the reporter stop scraping the bottom of the kettle for useless commentary such as this. It won't bring his wife back and his political views have nothing to do with the shooting. If you hated her so much you should have written her. I am so sick of people barking at each other for their 15 minutes of fame. Shut up old man and honor the memory of your wife.

The entire thing was tragic and especiallywhen a child is involved that wanted to make a difference. She was to young to really understand what the parties been so it doesn't matter what political party you belong to

Yes the man may be an idiot. But he chooses to live in a country that affords him the right to say what he likes to the press (even if it is stupid). If he doesn't like this country and the way it is run, then by all means he needs to go live in another country and see how he fares. You don't see the family of the other victims running to the press with all this negative garbage. Oh, and should we be on the lookout for this man and check to see how many guns he had on him?

Senile old man, you are as un-American as the rest of your right wing nut buddies

is 27 your age or your IQ? LOL

Gabby Gifford proves you only need half a brain to be a congressman.

Does not play well with others, that was a really crude and unnecessary thing to say.

very well put

and also maybe guilt for perceived punishment for coming to the meeting with negating intentions.

he could be so much happier with a bit of therapy