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Subscribe to RSSViolent weather roared across Alabama, injuring dozens of people and killing at least two. The Weather Channel's Eric Fisher reports.
Storms that spawned at least one twister were responsible for 2 deaths, more than 100 injuries and some 400 homes and buildings destroyed or damaged early Monday in the area around Birmingham, Ala. -- less than a year after the state saw 240 lives taken by tornadoes.
More than 200 homes were destroyed, the Red Cross said, and as many were damaged.
Jefferson County appeared hardest hit, especially the town of Clay, where the National Weather Service confirmed that a tornado with 150-mph winds had struck.
"We have major, major damage," said a Jefferson County Emergency Management Agency official, Bob Ammons, in reference to the region.
Butch Dill / AP
This neighborhood in Trussville, Ala., was among those hit by a suspected tornado overnight.
Two people were confirmed killed in the county, and officials were looking at a report of a third death there as well.
In the town of Center Point, the elementary school was 80 percent destroyed and officials said it would have to be bulldozed, The Birmingham News reported.
Last April, massive tornadoes tore through Alabama killing 241 people, including 64 in the Jefferson and Tuscaloosa areas.
The storms flattened homes and peeled off roofs in the middle of the night in the rural community of Oak Grove. As dawn broke, residents surveyed the damage and began cleaning up across parts of central Alabama, an area that has a history of tornadoes going back decades.
In a sign that Alabama has become all too familiar with severe weather, officials had to reschedule a meeting Monday to receive a report on their response to deadly twisters last spring.
At least two people are dead after an overnight storm in Alabama. NBC's Erika Edwards reports.
Alabama's governor declared a state of emergency for the entire state.
Oak Grove was hit hard last April, though officials said none of the same neighborhoods was struck again.
Amber Butler and her family hid in her sister's brick home as the storm approached. Butler's own home was destroyed.
Butch Dill / AP
Rescue workers help a family out of their neighborhood in Trussville, Ala. on Monday.
"I am just so speechless now, I don't know what to do," she said. "God Bless our friends and neighbors who have come to help. We've lost everything we had."
Butler lived near 83-year-old Bobby Frank Sims, who was killed when his home was leveled by a tree.
In Clay, northeast of Birmingham, 16-year-old Christina Nicole Heichelbech died, the Jefferson County coroner's office said. Rescue workers said her parents were injured.
The storm system stretched from the Great Lakes to the Gulf of Mexico, producing hail, strong winds and rain. Possible tornadoes were reported in Arkansas on Sunday night.
In Alabama, searchers went door-to-door calling out to residents, many of whom were trapped by trees that crisscrossed their driveways.
Jefferson County, where Oak Grove and Clay are located, suffered the most damage, followed by Chilton County, with most of the damage around Maplesville.
Oak Grove, a sprawling unincorporated area in the western part of the county was nearly wiped out on April 8, 1998, by a powerful tornado that killed 34 people and left about 260 people injured. It spread a wide path of destruction that left much of the previously heavily wooded western section of the county looking barren. The tornado destroyed Oak Grove High School, which has been rebuilt.
This general section of Jefferson County has been infamous for destructive tornadoes dating back to the 1930s.
State Climatologist John Christy said there seems to be a general path from central Mississippi going into north Alabama that gets attention for a large number of tornadoes — and their intensity. One theory has to do with the distance from the Gulf of Mexico, just far enough to be effected by cold air coming from the north.
"It's the frequency and intensity of the storms that tend to align on this corridor," said Christy, a professor at the University of Alabama in Huntsville.
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.
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YEAH!!!! Bring forth the wrath of the unbelievers and let them taste their end!! Because climate change is real baby!
Can't imagine sleeping at home and have a Tornado knock it down..I would call that some kind of wrath hope everyone is safe.
oldwolf49, glad that we never had tornados in the US before the Al Gore global warming/climate change era.
Ummm, tornadoes are and always have been a fact of life in Alabama, global warming or not. Get out of our sandbox, oldwolf49.
you my friend Old Wolf are an ahole! may a tornado hit your fing house!
people died you jerk! and global warming is nothing but liberal crap to
make your liberal politicans RICH! time for you left loonies to get out
of america and go to Socialistopia with the rest of the demos and lesbos
and gays and green nuts and let OBOMBO be your KING! explain if
it's true why Al Gore built a house on the beach in California if the
ocean is gonna rise and the state is gonna fall in the ocean? hypocrites!
How are the messengers of global warming getting rich? The deniers (ie big oil)are the ones gettig rich and are afraid of losing their billions. BTW Gore's house is not "on the beach".
Oh really? Al DID buy a ocean-view house in Montecito last year.
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010/05/exclusive-estimate-carbon-footprint-of.html
Ocean view does not equal "on the beach". For the argument Goodvsevil is attempting to make it matters.
CCW, I grew up in Alabama. Yes, tornadoes occur very often in Alabama, but prior to the mid 90s, Tornadoes did not usually happen in winter.
If the DC Earthquake was a sign from God to Liberals, I wonder what sign the decades of killer tornadoes is to Conservative [and racist] south.
Old Wolf, I think you're more an OLD FOOL.
If people are still so stupid to say that global warming is a LIE maybe they need to move into an area that is being hit. Ignorance is bliss, and there is a TON of happy people in this country.
Hey old wofl, the other day as I was standing in Line at the Super Market , I farted and two liberals behind me said it was because of Global warming.
EXAMPLE of Mr. Green
Historic home = old no insulation and thin walls
----------------------------------------------------------
10,000 sqft = atleast five 5-ton AC units is 87.5 kW of cooling or 87,921.3 watts to be exact.
for talking purposes lets use expensive 20 seer units and cut the above number in 1/2 or 43.75 kW
235 watt solar panels (the big ones) * 33 panels * 3.5 solar hours Nashville gets on avg. = 27.14 kW/day
Gores AC units in his home running for 30 mins or less depending on losses is saved via his solar panels.
This doesn't include any appliances or other energy sapping equipment.
Give him an A for effort for trying on the pannels but an F on buying a 10,000sqft home for two people.
Lets cut to the chase, regardless of whether global warmig is or is not actual only a miserable excuse for a human being would either wish or rejoice in others deaths based on their political alliance.
Ah, sweet civility! Jared Loughner would be proud!
Stay classy, Oldwolf!
Old buckieboy lotsanumbers is one classy dude. Did you have somebody hold yer beer when ya farted?
Comments after that are worthless. All of the sheeple are following their own opinion. I doubt a lot of people look at history and see things repeating.
Storms, one reason I never really look forward to spring...My condolences to families of the dead..
Storm shelters??
I live in Harvest AL. An area hit hard in the April 27, 2011 storms. I looked into building a shelter, but they are very very costly.
A cheap way to build a shelter is to get a rail/truck shipping container and bury it and make the access. I heard of this, never tried it.
fgh,
Yeah, don't why that wouldn't work...My son in Arkansas build one several years ago for around 5K I think..That is still alot of money but how do you put a price tag on our lives??? I live in north Georgia and we had a big one last April. I wish I had had a storm shelter to get in for sure..
public storm shelters are still not installed.....why? unemployment is at a record high and they would rather let people sit on their butts and collect unemployment benefits than put them to work.
I keep hearing the states whine about their strained budgets when they have entire workforce at their disposal - people that are on assistance are quite capable of working a required number of hours in "state training programs" while on unemployment or collecting welfare until they are gainfully employed again.
My sister is unemployed since Oct. of 2011. She is none of what you described...You are so out of touch...Most unemployed are honest hard working people who were laid off...I hope you never have to face that situation...oh...actually I hope you do...Don't generalize..You are talking about thousands of people...And what government projects...GOP and Tea Party reps in Washington have tried their best to cut any type of aid, programs and job programs...i.e. remember them walking out of negotiations for Obama's jobs plan which majority of economist stated would be successful and put hundreds of thousands back to work? Oh and guess what...latest stats show unemployment rate is lowest it has been since prior to 2008, no thanks to Congress.
I have lived in Alabama and know the fear of tornadoes/hurricanes. I'm deeply sorry for the loss of property and life. I am amazed however, at the GOP and TEa Party small government minded folks who make up the south. They are always the first to blame the poor and they are always the first to ask for disaster aid from the taxpayers in New York, Illinois, Wisconsin, ect.... IE Federal Disaster Relief, when bad things happen to them. Is the Federal Disaster Relief program one they want to cut? You can not have it both ways folks!
I live in Tuscaloosa (need I say ROLL, TIDE.) There were a lot of people here who didn't get a minute's sleep last night. One of the things I do wish they would re-activate is the plan to do a detailed zip code-related weather broadcast. My weather radio kept going off with false alarms all last night because there is so much of the state in the same region. It would be a lot better if the NWS could target its broadcasts to the 9-digit zip codes and just warn the people really effected.
Hopefully the federal government will respond quickly to this tragedy rather than doing a repeat of the disgraceful delay and neglect in Joplin, Missouri.
Condolences to all the families who have lost loved ones and again hopefully federal aid offering the needed basics will be fast forthcoming to those in Alabama who lost all they had. It would be good if Americans in need received aid money before aid is passed out to those in other countries; those questionable efforts to try to buy friends in other countries have mostly backfired, anyway, and no surprise there. It will be good if election year politics, and longtime divide and conquer politics, do not play into delay in helping the people of Alabama as well, as they may tend to be conservatives, and if money is "slow or no" to come to Alabama for that reason, it is shameful.
One thing we can be sure of is the first thing Alabama will do is ask the BIG government for help, especially including the spending of OUR money.
The government is a big bad thing, .... until we need it.
I wonder where are all those religious people that blame a state's supports for gay rights or some other liberal cause whenever a natural disaster occurs?
What did these people do wrong that God struck them down?
pippo ,you can`t see the difference between people who had all they worked for destroted by a storm and the people who plane not to work,and will never be hired because the only thing they can do is breed.
Santorium has six or seven kids is he one of those breeders, Romney has quite a clan also. Both of them seem to be against abortions or birth control before or after sex. Gingrich can't seem to stay with one woman long enough to get a family off the ground. How many kids you got hockeypuck? Your description tells us all what your "moral and family values" are as does it also tell us your racial preference. I don't know where you are from but you should move back to there and hope like hell no ill befalls you or yours, but even if it does we will send you help, us breeders and none breeders.
Are some of the postings on this thread illustrative of what America has devolved to, or what? First, the central government is a fact, like it or lump it. So of course, as equal citizens (or they should be, PC to the contrary) the people of Alabama have the right to expect immediate assistance, and not a replay of the disgraceful delay and neglect of the people of Joplin, Missouri. (BTW, how pitiful that the current divisive, childish and hateful "winners and losers" mindset of the central corrupts can see nonexistant "major problems" (not) from a big rain storm in the northeast but not see a true natural disaster in MidAmerica or the South, all of that politically motivated. For shame.) Second, America will never have a chance to recover lost ground as long as so many are all too willing to "fall for" the divide and conquer of pitting the various so-called victim group constituencies against each other. It would be so great if Americans would drop this abstract Blue vs Red, liberal versus conservative, skin tone versus skin tone nonsense (since it is never an honest approach, anyway; there is individual variation always, not this absurd group-think one size fits all nonsense) and instead start thinking HOW can we get Americans back to work in jobs with staying power (not these election year smoke screens that fade fast), HOW we can get resources to people who suffer catastrophic "Acts of God", HOW we can see "the other" as an individual and hear what is actually being said, rather than generalizing. It may be easy to hate in the abstract - that's why political opportunists and hatemongers encourage groupwide generalizations. It is not so easy to hate the individual person standing right in front of you, is it? America will be vastly improved if the Golden Rule ever comes back into play: "Do unto the other as you would have him/her do unto you." It's a simple way to live and it works wonderfully well.
Thank you for this comment. It is one of the best I have seen for a long time. These used to be the thought of most people but times change and of course people do to. Great post.
@Not Sorry - public storm shelters?? Tornadoes are not like hurricanes or floods, they are not predictable, you have seconds to make a decision during a tornado, there is NO time to drive to a storm shelter.
It is sickening that amidst another tornado tragedy in Alabama, which cost people their lives or homes, you people want to talk about politics. Praying for all of those affected by another tragic event and praying they get the assistance they need. PS-In April 2011, Alabama didn't just rely on the government for disaster money. People of all backgrounds across our state rallied together to raise money for these victims, including celebrities such as the Alabama band.
Bart Conner,
The "religious people and churches" are in the disaster areas helping clean up debris, providing shelter, providing clothing, providing food & water, etc. instead of sitting around debating politics. Churches all across our state helped in the tornado disaster of April 2011 as well.
the new and everlasting covenant ….+….
(1.)
( utus….deus….am.. ) .+.
the first’original, the true and correct. i am .+. this!!!
the new and everlasting covenant ….+…. i am that to you had pleaded and
had spoken, i am your only one father deus….who created the heaven and earth.
that to you had written, the one that taught and the one giving light so you will understand and you will have clearness on the summary of bible and the kept hidden writings of the scientist and rome to whom i have entrusted and
have given the commandment. i am your only one father deus….who can tell you every right word of truth; that i want to reveal the whole and all of this to you so you will be released from the tie of sin so you will not go to the deep hole sorrowful hell, suffering, and death. i am this, your only one father deus….
the true lightness and faithfulness and i am telling you the truth, on my first letter i have told you already: except from my two children that i had considered, the saudita and rome, except from them, i have given and entrusted the commandment to no one else. i am telling you the truth, those who have ears must listen to what is being said by the voice! and those religions diffused all over and spreaded in every nation and country, they mounted in number
because this is the fruit of their argument and debate which was caused by their disobedience to the commandment and their disrespectful which brought blindness and had put in the fire of danger to terrestrial man and unknowing and innocent soul. i am your only one father deus…. that speaks and tells every truth, i am repeating, those who have ears must have listened! and those who have eyes must have seen. the foremost true first’original who possessed and authored the bible was the rome. he had marked it’s name: bible there is no other that can be ahead of them because to only two, i have given the commandment.
that the first to whom i have given this was his elder brother, the saudita,
that they themselves have marked it quran. the reason why i had a second one
to whom i have given this, is because he answered me: i will not follow this.
and even he answered me that way i did not hate him; among people,
that i am, your only one father, i just did not hope, and as i am in the form of a man, only one father, so this, i gave and entrusted to my second child; the roman,
as i am the only one father, and he gladly accepted it and answered me:
i will follow. as i heard his response, i am as a man, only one father, in him
i trusted and hope. i have given this to them as i am, like now, in the form of a man, so i will know deeply the true desire and will of each man. but neither one
of them had been righteous to me because of the profanity and sins they did which also caused the fruit of all confusion in every person living on earth.
but i am telling you the truth, as i am, the deus….your only one father deus….
that even before i made and created you i had already seen and knew who are really and truly mine. i am telling you every truth,
i am the only one father deus…. as the deus….
that is your only one father deus….whom nobody had fully comprehended, nobody had seen, nobody even knew, but i am also telling you that the true who had seen and knew me is the one who has a good spirit who had followed
what i had commanded. that is why now, to you, i am speaking, is for you to make straight all your fault and repent all your committed sins, and after you had repent truly and solemnly you can now unite in the performance offered for all people in the whole world and in the whole universe. through the key and
poder prayer which was kept secret to scientist and rome, that now i had revealed to you for the forgiveness of the committed sin.
( j*h*s* ) abba .+. ave, o mariae, so full of gratiam the deus…. is with you benedectam are you among women and benedectum are you by your son jesus santa mariae mother of deus…. pray for the souls, spirits, bodies, and life especially for those who truly and in most need of your help, consolation, and misericordia have mercy and save them o our father only one father deus….
el nomene del deus pater deus filio
el' deus espiritu sancto am..
i am telling you the truth that had my true and right command was revealed by the first to whom i had given the commandment, yet had given him the freedom to choose and did not control him; the whole world and all the people on earth will be living abudantly and peacefully, each and every person.
and there would be no space to whoever among you the bad spirit and demonic enemy because no one will commit sin.
the three commandments
of my only one father deus….
nothing is more than my command…………
i am .+. this, your only one father deus….
the creator of heaven and earth, of whole world and whole universe. that to you, i am the one who commanded!
(1.) love me, i am your only one father deus.... and follow my command more than everything and anyone else.
(2.) respect your father and mother
as i am your only one father deus....who to you is commanding.
(3.) pray for the soul, spirit, body, and life without mentioning of anyone’s name because i am your only one father deus....who is seeing, knowing, and aware of who should be given and be attended.
i am .+. this the only one father deus….
my true and correct command which was hidden and kept secret by the scientist and rome, whoever can follow my three command, that i do not have any other command except from these, did and followed all of my command.
i am.+. this your only one father deus….that to you is speaking and had written so the blind will see, the deaf will hear, the lame will walk on the right path and straight way, and the dead will have risen, those who have true faith in me
your only one father deus….who are looking for light and truth, those mute
(priest, archbishop, cardinal, or pastor) and anyone is being called to speak, to testify on my first’original and right command for the whole world and
the whole universe. because i am .+. the only one father deus…. of lightness, truthfulness, and faithfulness. i am .+. this is my true and right command.
\ true jesus christ .+. / (utus….deus….am..) .+.
(q.) o* deus :+: el**** .+. benedectus!!!
to all of you in the whole world
and in the whole universe ….+….
(2.)
poder key and
prayer!!! a.+.o
( utus….deus….am.. ) .+. oh’ my beloved fellow human on earth or world, to each one’s location. (q.) o* deus:+: el****.+. benedectus!!!
to all of you in the whole world
and in the whole universe….+….
this is the strict order or message by my only one father deus…. for all of you in the whole world and in the whole universe. that each letter, writing or message commanded to me by my only one father deus…. to convey to all of you
in the whole world and in the whole universe. is not a religion which looks for profanity or argument with the people, but in order to prepare for the near time of judgment which no one will expect when, that it will come at once in the near time. that my only one father deus…. only he, understands and knows the exact date and time of his trial. but it is being given and known through the letter taught to me by my only one father deus…. for all of you in the whole world and in the whole universe. that all of you who trust truly and has faith
in my only one father deus…. who is our only one father deus…. is conveying
to all of you the invitation to unite the whole and all, of the wholy and complete number in praying for the whole world and the whole universe. and each of your beloved ones, relatives, friends, and acquintances, and even those people not related or unknown to you, if there is a way for each aforementioned, and the command is for you to help one another convince to honor
my only one father deus…. who is our only one father deus…. through one faith and belief in performing the prayer. and this is the poder prayer, the secret key of salvation which was kept secret, the name of my only one father deus….
but revealed to one who has a spirit of a child…. that now was permitted and made known by my only one father deus…. to all people in the whole world
and in the whole universe. for the forgiveness of the sins committed and
this is what being referred and taught by my only one father deus….
(j*h*s*) (abba .+. father….) ave, o mariae, so full
of gratiam the deus…. is with you benedectam
are you among women and benedectum are you
by your son jesus santa mariae, mother of deus…. pray for the souls, spirits, bodies, and
life especially for those who truly and
in most need of your help, consolation, and
misericordia have mercy and save them
o our father only one father deus….
el nomene del deus pater deus filio
el' deus espiritu sancto am..
only this and alone the name prayer taught by my only one father deus….
and there is no other except for this, only one was taught
by my only one father deus…. there is only one way of truth, only one way of lightness, only one way of righteousness, only one salvation. whoever follow me according to what was commanded by my only one father deus…. forever,
will not perish the soul, will not even suffer and will receive the reward of
a life of an everlasting glory. and even here on earth forever will not be misled to the right path, to the right way where he walks. so, my reminder to those
who already have faith and belief who accepted wholy my command, and those who are following according to what was commanded, is for you to make strong your spirit, with patience and remain faithful until the end so all of you
will be saved. that those mine will remain mine, that no one can take away from me
those who are following and have followed my command.
and i am telling to whoever among you,
the truth, that no one will come to
my only one father deus…. if not through me; those who will not pass through me
will not come to my only one father deus….
because i and my only one father deus .+. are one, only one deus of mine .+.
and i do not have any other deus .+.
except for my only one father deus .+. as proof
to you that i am your only one father deus….
that to you is speaking, in my first letters i have told you the truth.
now, i am repeating that the destruction brought by the four elements;
the water, fire, wind and earth, flood, fire, nature, and earthquake which a lot of number of people were hurt, wounded, died and some others died instantly
in unexpected event and time. and also those occuring fight in every country with dispute, and the crisis coming in the country. and all these, were not hidden from your knowledge because you are already witnessing, so whoever among you as long as you still have good opportunity to change and to honor
my only one father deus…. according to what was commanded through
poder prayer which is written and truly recorded by my only one father deus…. concealed from scientists and rome because they do not want to do and follow the right command of my only one father deus…. to whom to them was entrusted, but was revealed to the spirit like of a child because i have followed the command. and i am the only one father deus…. that to you is speaking,
that be prepared! all you, who are not honoring and disrespectful to me,
because i will shake the heaven and earth and the whole and all that i have made and created will witness me, as the deus…. which has no limit and has no end
being me as the deus…. in the whole world and in the whole universe.
and in the future and near time you will witness all the excruciating illness
that will be quickly spreading among each nation, country in the whole world and in the whole universe. which cannot be cured by anyone you believed to be good or expert doctor, that this will be the cause of the whole suffering and tragic feeling of each person in the whole world and in the whole universe.
and i am telling you also the truth that i will hear the voice of whoever have followed and following me according to what i have commanded. and you will also witness that each volcano i will make active and erupt in every part
of the country which has volcano. so that you will see that, truly,
there is only one father deus…. who created
the heaven and earth the whole world
and the whole universe ….+….
beginning and the end ..+.. alpha and omega .+. (utus….deus….am..) .+.
(3.)
the lawful judge ..+..
( utus….deus….am.. ) .+.
the lawful judge, righteous law, clear, clean, true and right teaching ..+..
of my only one father deus….i am your only one father deus….
who created the heaven and earth and of the whole world and of
the whole universe, who had spoken and speaking to my only one son
as i am who is your only one father deus….that is only one father deus….
who is revealing and had proven to all of you which i made and created
in the whole world and in the whole universe, so all of you can see, hear, and be conscious about and learn the fact of every truth, that the trading and selling
of my holy word that was done, his disobedience, of the first to whom
i have given the commandment, that the two of them were the cause why some of the ignorant, unknowing and innocent souls stumbled. that is why religious activities mounted in number and continuously increasing here on earth, in every part of nation and country is because of what they saw from the first to whom
i have given the commandment, that they are making business and raising money through the holy word and language which he had marked the name bible.
i am repeating this to you and i am telling the great truth, except from the first siblings, the saudita and rome, i have given the commandment to no one else.
that is why i am strictly telling and ordering you this, do not unite or partake with them anymore through the bible, because this is a name of one person who is reserved and cunning, so all of you in the whole world and in the whole universe will not be implicated in my loathe and hate with them that this will bring to the fire of hell’s suffering which is sorrow without end. because all of the wrong teachings and doctrines against my true and right commandment, i will punish!
no one among you, i will exempt nor select. those disobedient and have sinned against what i had commanded, who did not change, who have been hard and proud, who did not follow what i had commanded, i will punish according
to what i had marked and written correctly. this is my law, true and right command, that whoever will not change and will not honor me according
to what commanded by my only one father deus….i am repeating this to you,
i will not forgive you and i will punish you. all religions in every nation and country in the whole world and in the whole universe, who use good word and holy language, dragging it into business, requesting, selling to earn money and raise large funds, so to see within them that they are chaste and seems
to be walking in holiness having the force and power, because to their hypocrite acts through their collected money, they can do good deeds and are able to cover up from the eyes of people the sins they are doing. that this was kept secret from some other innocent, unknowing souls. you will not be saved through your good acts if at stake is the disobedience from my true and right commandment. i am your only one father deus….that to all of you had made and created, who tells you every truth that whoever using my holy language and word to collect and to have plenty of money and funds, that this they are selling, your like and image is none other than but judas iscariot,
that he, the rome himself had marked it’s name; judas.
i am your only one father deus….that will not give all of you in the whole world and in the whole universe of too many commands which will cause argument and confusion. because i am your only one father deus….the king of peacefulness. i have given you the command without anything to argue about and you will not be confused. when i gave this to the first whom i have given the commandment,
those that i have considered as my two children, the saudita and rome.
that the first to whom i have given this was the saudita. he accepted it, but when he saw what is inside and it’s content, he answered me, i will not do this.
to his response, as i am in the form that of a man, only one father, i did not hate him, i just did not hope, but in me, being the deus….that is everlasting and
eternal being, as the deus…. i am!!! only one father deus…. before i even made and created you i have already seen and knew who are really and truly mine.
that is why i have punished saudita because in the past periods he had done with disobedience, without consent and with a heavy a heart, i should have not given again the command to one that i have considered to be my second child, the rome,
as i am in the form that of a man only one father, there could not have been
a model in commiting profanity and sin. that you who violated my commandment which initiated the fuse, the agony, suffering which cause sorrowful hell and death. i did not ask anything from any of you when i gave you the commandment.
i did not ask for any material thing from anyone of you because all of those
i can give to you. the only thing i asked to test your heart and to know
your faithfulness in me who is your only one father deus….
who created the heaven and earth, the whole world and the whole universe,
is your complete trust and faith in following and doing what i had commanded. that you do not need to have arguments, and you do not even need to study me like the scientist and reserved yet cunning. do not imitate them anymore so you will not be involved or become like them because for those who are like them that cannot follow what i had commanded, i have prepared punishment reserved for them. and however you do try and study on your own strength, intelligence, and knowledge, you will not even know or discover me, because all of those
are only fruit of your own thinking and behavioral preference.
that all of those are in contrast with my teachings which is true and right teaching. so do not insist anymore on searching and discovering or studying me,
because i am your only one father deus….
being the deus….which is everlasting
and eternal being, as the deus….
only one father deus….
deus .+. whom nobody had fully comprehended,
deus .+. no one had seen,
deus .+. no one had knew.
but i am telling you the truth, the true who had seen and knew me is the one who has a good spirit, those who had followed and who are following in accordance with what i had commanded. that is why i am reprimanding you because you still have a very beautiful opportunity that to you i am granting and giving for free, not asking for anything in return or monetary cost. why don’t you do
my command! and i am, you try! therefore there will be an end to your argumentation, debate, and confusion, to your problems in life in every nation and country in the whole world and in the whole universe. i am again repeating and commanding you as i am your only one father deus….that to all of you had made and created, and of the whole world and the whole universe.
this my command that i had given and handing to you. this is the true and right that i have taught. be behave all of you and do good so all of you will be saved through and by following what i had commanded and i am, is this!!! the secret key, the poder prayer which was hidden and was kept secret to scientist and reserved yet cunning but i had revealed to spirit like of a child so to all of you be revealed, to every nation and country in the whole world and
in the whole universe for the forgiveness of all sins commited. do all of you and follow this as a sign of acknowledgement and complete trust and faith in me
who is your only one father deus…. that to all of you had made and created and of the whole world and of the whole universe.
abba .+. ave, o mariae, so full of gratiam
the deus…. is with you benedectam are you among women and benedectum are you by your son jesus santa mariae mother of deus…. pray for the souls, spirits, bodies, and life especially for those who truly and in most need of your help, consolation, and misericordia have mercy and save them o our father only one father deus….
el nomene del deus pater deus filio
el' deus espiritu sancto am..
(utus….deus….am..) .+.
(q.) o* deus :+: el**** .+. benedectus!!!
to all of you in the whole world and
in the whole universe ….+….
Once again, isolated weather events do not climate change make. Tornadoes and thunderstorms can happen any time of year if the temperature contrast between air masses is great enough. But I wouldn't expect the climate change advocates to understand all that much about weather, climate, meteorology, and the physics of the atmosphere. No, they would rather endlessly repeat biased political boilerplate propaganda based upon faux junk science.
Bring forth some truth and real scientific evidence and perhaps we will start listening to you.
Yes, but the series of these events over the past few years, certainly support the climate change models that predict larger, more intense weather events. Wally, denial is a terrible thing.
Climate change happens. It's been happening since the earth was formed and will continue to happen long after mankind destroys itself.
Yes, but human activity is the main driver of THIS climate change.
Different: you need to know how a model is made? They are not perfect.
Wrong differnet:
These storms are no stronger or larger than in the past, in general. Some are strong and big, other weather systems are small and weak. You're basing this theory on computer models? The physics of the atmosphere has too many variables and is too complex to be interpreted by these (probably) biased models.
Wally,
I have to ask. What "truth", exactly, or how much scientific evidence delivered by who would convince you? Since you've already decided that climate change and global warming are lies, No proof would ever be good enough, would it?
96% of the scientific community have laready agreed and presented the evidence- junk science- are you kidding? Its only the deniers holding out with no evidence that it isnt changing
Science is never certain. But when consensus science is wrong, it usually is not wrong by much.
Sometimes science is over-confident in the conclusions drawn. And sometimes they are proved wrong.
On the geologic time-line we are a tiny speck, yet we think we can predict the maximum severity of natural disasters that may occur where we choose to live. Whether you believe in global warming/climate change or not, recent events have shown we are unprepared to meet the forces of nature. Addressing that issue seems like the priority to me.
Top 11 Warmest Years On Record Have All Been In Last 13 Years
no global warming??? i beg to differ. the overall, although very slight, warming of the earth is real. it is said to be due to the burning of fossil fuels which has thinned the ozone layer which contributes to extremes in weather. no, this incident is not an extreme in weather. but there have been many extremes over the last several years...from record snowfall, to record floods, increase in stronger tornadoes...etc etc. this can not be denied. if you deny this, then you are not facing the facts!!!
There has been a tad bit or warming since the end of the Little Ice Age (LIA). To what extent that will continue is all conjecture and too much reliance on computer models. Tornadoes are January are not an indicator of climate change. There is no evidence or science that says storms will be stronger and more severe if this "warming" continues. If a computer model says so, you have to remember that NWS forecasts start to really diverge from reality after about 5-7 days out.
So what is this "evidence" that "96% of the scientific community" (does this include social science?) has a consensus about. Sure don't see any science, facts and figures, and stuff like that on these forums...just the true believers repeating over and over that "scientists say".
We as humans will ALWAYS be unprepared to meet the forces of nature. People who are proponents of climate change are all too eager to "do something" about this threat. But what? The biggest problem we have with this mitigation of CO2 buildup is that it will never be cost effective. Not here in the U.S., and certainly not in developing nations. Sure, extensive use of government subsidized or so called green energy might take care of 10% of our energy needs, but for the long term we will have to rely on petroleum and natural gas. Heck, consider the case of Chevy Volts, they don't sell.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/112012340182/dealers-refusing-to-take-chevy-volts---report
So what's a realistic solution ye believers...nuclear? Paper instead of plastic? Tax the rich?
The earth axis shifted about 3degrees , this causes the moon orbit to move , this brings about increased volcanic activity , the water under the sea is heated by these underwater volcanoes, this changes weater patterns. much more effect on our planet than our adding .0001 percent of CO2 to our atmosphere. Besides CO2 content is regulated by the interactions of other elements of the atmosphere.
2 Sense - agreed. All the climate arguments aside. The fact is if there is any major event or change (climate related or whatever) we are not in a good position to react and adapt as needed without what will likely be a large loss in lives and total upheaval in society as we know it. We can't prepare for everything, nor can we live in fear, but we can at least try to a better job of being prepared and change some of our current philosophies and daily practices.
In regards to man's pollution and its impact, well its clear pollution is bad for us whether or not it affects the climate and doing what we can to be more responsible and limit that impact should always be a goal. Fossil fuels aren't going away overnight. But we can be more responsible and start thinking long term. So what, we start supporting renewable energy more, be more aware of our waste and find ways to recycle and reduce, and find ways to limit the use of or stretch the energy produced from fossil fuels with no increase in the amount used,; nah that sounds bad, I'll just stick with the pollution and dependence on energy sources from other countries and allowing a select group to maintain their control on everyone else. Ok, there maybe some pain to do some of this but it is not what some want you to think (there are very good benefits actually), but the biggest issue is we keep fighting it and pushing it back until at some point we won't have a choice and then you want to talk about pain? I rather spread it out then take it all at once and not even be sure if I will make it out alive or not. The thing is we have a choice and we can make it work. It just whether or not we want to do it now or wait until we have no choice at all.
It is time
As far as the article goes, best wishes to these people and hope they can pull through, regards to the family's of those who lost loved ones.
The science of Global Warming is good science - the notion that man-made CO2 (greenhouse gases, etc.) is accelerating it as fast as some would lead to believe us is a major point of contention. We have been on a warming trend since the last ice age (go figure). We will be on a warming trend until the next ice age. Live with it - science does not have the model for the last million years perfected (yet) which is a predictor for the future. Statistics can be skewed one way or the other and those same statistics can be based upon pure science (remember that for everything that is statistically based. In other words, what do you want the answer to be?) As my strategy professor would often say, "It Depends". It dpends on who benefits and who profits from it (or stands to lose a load of money). I think that most of the scientific community agrees that we are on a "warming" trend; greenhouse gases contribute, but exactly how much? I think the point that escapes everyone is that it is very important to lower one's carbon footprint regardless, because it preserves our non-renewable resources until we figure out a "cost-effective" (yes, that means you Mr. POTUS - you cannot be "all-in" at whatever cost possible) way to implement 100% renewable energy sources. Plus it saves big money. It is not a bad thing to conserve resources and energy, recycle, and be a good steward of our environment. This coming from an Energy Industry employee of 30 years.
As "It is Time" points out, best wishes and prayers of support for the good folks of Alabama who have again been hit by natural disasters.
Wally you're in serious denial. I've lived in the south on and off all my life and continue seeing warmer and warmer weather. Winter in South Carolina feels a lot like it did in Florida around 10 years ago, and Tornados were practically never a concern this far east, except small spin offs from hurricane season. Now it's happening in January. You would have to be paid off, or a brain dead moron to deny global warming is real. So I have to wonder, which are you?
If people would stop breeding like rats (bigger population means larger numbers of casualties and more CO2 produced), buy vehicles that used less oil, bought less junk (especially us in the US since we leave a carbon footprint 10x greater than any other country), maybe there wouldn't be so much tragedy when natural disasters happen. Why can't people stop being so selfish and stop at 1 or 2 kids?
Wally is grossly uninformed and unintelligent in general.
You are apparently "uninformed" about the Newsvine Code of Honor .... the one that says you should respect the opinion of others. I also doubt quite seriously that you have any knowledge about Wally's intelligence level.
If y'all don't hush, the internet gets turned off right now and you can go read a book in your rooms...now behave!
When they run out of facts, or fail to have sources or provide links to back up their statements, then all they can do is insult.
Quite intelligent by the way...I have never said that warming is not occurring, I just don't agree with all the doomsday scenarios or how far it will progress. I am a skeptic, as an honest scientist should be. Real science is not consensus, especially if there is a political agenda in the mix.
If all this scary stuff is real, there is very little that can realistically be done about it anyway.
Sheeple look at, much less interpret history? Sorry, but you have to know how to read to do that. Moreover, even if they did, they would fall behind in the episodes of the Jerry Springer Show. That would certainly be a much too severe tragedy for them to bear.
The average number of tornados, for January, is one. So, we are above average for this month.
Next month might have none. If you're looking for a trend, it has to be over a long time period.
last year was a record tornado year and were already starting out well ahead of the curve- forget tornadoes- severe weather has skyrocketed the past few years - washington state had its worst ice storm in over 120 years of official state records which is the origin of these storms- the worst flooding occurred 3 years prior- funny how all these records are being broken in such a short window of time- ofocurse in the distant past there may have been equal but worldwide weather is out of control and in record events
Man-made climate change and the dinosaur is just liberal mythology designed for political gain. People who believe in them are going straight to hell. Just saying.
We have no idea of the weather patterns prior to the colonization of this continent. 120 years, 3 years means absolutely nothing.
You republicans are idiots!!!!! Global Warming is REAL and all the deneing in the world is not going to change it!!!! We must start working toward doing what we can to slow Global Warming. I am 65 and I know the trend is far away from my youth!!!
Speaking of idiots, dem465yr, you aren't smart enough to be an idiot. I am 65 also, and this trend is exactly as is was in the early 50's to present. Grow up and forget the alzeimers you have.
If you were smart, you would have made off like a bandit with the Chicago Climate Exchange Ponzi Scheme like Al Gore and others. All "legal" and "legit". Do you REALLY thing Gore gives a rats ass???....I doubt there is ANYTHING "green" with Gore's lifestyle. Talk about a Fraud.
since u r 65 yrs. old the readers won't have to view your post much longer. thank goodness.
dem...enough of the politics...it's getting old...
Red...that's not nice...
Puhleese. The "tornadoes in January mean global warming is REAL!" crowd is every bit as silly and sheeplike as the Christian evangelicals who think the world is 6,000 years old they mock. I live in Alabama and can assure Ready002 that his statistic is garbage; we easily average more than one tornado in January here alone, nevermind the rest of the country. Go grab a science book and learn the difference between "weather" (the atmospheric conditions right this moment) versus "climate" (the average weather in a certain area over a period of years, decades, centuries, or even millenia). Stop being such a knee-jerk drone for Al Gore and sound like you actually know what you are talking about, and maybe people who actually use their heads as something more than as a counterweight to their rears will take you a little seriously.
Gee David, I remember a Christmas day when it was 68 degrees, (in W. Central Ohio.) That was 35 years ago. I want to see real data too. As I know weather is cyclical, and I don't want to listen to some Al Gore wannabe.
sure tornadoes occur in january- they occur anytime and almost anywhere- however already has been 85% more severe weather this tear then what is statistically normal- record warmth is occurring in the south- some 120 year records are being shattered - and the trend is worldwide- almost every country is reporting record severe flooding hail winds rain snow etc- record after record being shattered time and time again for the past few years- al gore or not the weather is starting to go beyond what is statistically "normal"
9 of the 10 warmest years on record have occurred in the past decade. Record keeping began in 1880. Never point to a single isolated event. Look at data collected over a long time.
How about some real data EMB, or are you just making these statements up?
EMB's facts are correct and Wally is still showing signs of denial and displaying his ignorance for all to see. Take it from someone who has lived everywhere from the Florida keys to Washington state. Global warming is real.
Opinions that agree with your own does not magically elevate them to facts.
Calling people "morons" or referring to their "ignorance" says a whole lot more about you than it does the story. Have you ever heard of the Newsvine Code of Honor ? Are you taking a weather event causing people to die as your political prop ??
jim -
I'm so glad you're here to police the vine. Would you care to wipe my nose, now? I mean, you have that fainting handkerchief handy, I'd just like to put it to use.
Anyway, I'm beginning to wonder about this whole "weather isn't climate" thing that's been the target of many of the deniers and much of the anti-alarmist crowd in general. I mean, I understand, weather is cyclical. We have seasonal changes based on the earth's axial tilt and the relation that provides to the amount of sunlight each pole receives. Not only that, but the fundamental differences in the geography of the two hemispheres exacerbates the difference (more ocean in the Southern Hemisphere provides more ocean-based cyclonic activity, while more land in the Northern Hemisphere provides more snow and small-storm activity). Then, when the two hemispherical weather patterns interact, things can get really dicey. Or calm.
But, what I'm saying is that there is a certain point where it becomes a false distinction. Yes, climate is measured over large distances of time. People say it's like the economy, you can't really say whether you're in a recession or depression until it's well past and the data has been analyzed. Similarly, you can't say that you're experiencing freak weather patterns, a sun-driven cycle, or pollutant-based warming until all the facts are in. I'd say we actually have better instrumentation than the economists at gauging the different factors going into the climate now. We have satellites that measure the sun's output, we have satellites that give real-time indications of surface temperatures. We have air quality sensors that tell us how much CO2 we have in the air. We have wind sensors, rain sensors, radar, infrared, and a whole host of arrays that provide us with real-time information, plotting short term trends, extrapolating based on past experience and current conditions.
Despite what the AGW deniers claim about the accuracy of the models, these models have been tested and refined over the past 30 years. If you want to know more about it, I'd suggest reading up on Chaos theory (not from the movies, the actual theory), and how it relates to a whole new way of doing science.
Dave....well here we go again...2011 spring re-visited! Only earlier this time. Here just 30 miles south of Atlanta...the ground is saturated from rain...ripe for monster trees smashing into houses. We love the shade for hot summer days but there's a number of big oaks, sweetgums, hickories that worry the crap out of me. I've chainsawed maybe 30 on my 5 acres but these babies are so close to house and majority of weight leaning towards house...don't trust my Paul Bunyan skills. Freaking tree surgeons aren't cheap!
The Beev...we also live 30 mi south of Atlanta. We had to have some large trees removed because of the danger they were imposing on our home. It was expensive to have the tree cut and this particular company didn't remove stumps. So we hired another man to do that. It was worth it though. Now I sleep better knowing that tree isn't leaning over my roof. Ground saturation seems to be an unseen danger around here.
Most species of trees need large amounts of water in their first 5 years, or their root systems can have development to shallow for the tree to be properly anchored.
The Beev:
I had a similar situation last year, only, when I called the "tree surgeon" he was two days too late in responding. A 14 inch sweetgum branch had fallen on the house. (I hate sweetgums!) He took down the rest of the approximately 4 foot diameter sweetgum and another nearby. (I really hate sweetgums) This year, there were thousands and thousands of sweetgum balls that I DID NOT HAVE TO RAKE!
Sarcasticus1...I'm sorry about the tree falling on your home, but I still had to chuckle about your hatred of sweetgums. Our yard was (and still is to some degree) full of sweetgums. If there are people reading this that don't know what a sweetgum tree is, you're a lucky person. Several years ago we had 5 of them struck by lightening in one storm. The insurance paid for part of the removal, but not all. The strike also did some electrical damage in our house. I wish I could come up with a money making scheme selling sweetgum balls, then I could afford to have the rest of the nasty things cut down.
Bag the sweetgum balls and sell them as firewood starter. They can be used as packing material for metal parts. Dip them in chocolate and sell them to naturalists as energy treats. Their applications for "torture" are too numerous to list.
What I don't understand is why God caused the tree to grow SO MANY of them! I really don't know what God was thinking! Bless the name of the Lord! I really think He was making a joke...or hoping someone would come up with a good idea for using them somehow.
Regards!
LOL Sarcasticus1. I wanted to say the same thing about the creator of the sweetgum, but I didn't want to read all the crazy rants. I can't tell you how many times I've stepped on a sweetgum ball and rolled my ankle. They are treacherous. Maybe law enforcement could use them to flatten tires during car chases. I'm thinking that after we get rid of all the sweetgum trees, science will discover that their sap cures some dreaded disease. That would certainly be my luck.
Tornado season ended some time ago. So what exactly is going on that is causing such an extended tornado season?
Retired, I have lived in Alabama for 20 years, and we ALWAYS have had what is referred to here as a secondary tornado season during this time of year. This is nothing unusual.
Tornadoes can occur at any time, in any month, in or out of season. 50 states have seen tornadoes. True, some don't show their faces until season starts...but that doesn't mean you can't see one if the season's over. If the mix of ingredients is there, it's going to happen...whether it's January or April.
The tornadoes didn't get the memo.
Tornadoes happen any time of year, especially in the south, where temperatures can range from well below freezing to the 70s in any given winter week.
It is tornado season in Alabama
If you're from the south Tornado Season is year-round. "Dixie Alley" is statistically the hot spot for tornados than "Tornado Alley".
These event will continue to intensify and become more frequent with the progression of time. Everyone has a scientific take on all this but no one recognizes the times. Or wants to for that matter. Do you think maybe that the One that calmed the sea could have some answers? Is it because there is no faith that no one will even consider that?
80 degrees in Dallas on Sunday in January. This winter, we may have had one day at best that was slightly below freezing for a low. Right now we are in a pattern where the temps will bounce from the low 50s to the mid to upper 70s back and forth. This is not normal. In my 50 years of living in this area I can tell you that we really do not have winter here any more. This is more than a localized weather phenomenon. The weather experienced in the southeast last night is weather you typically expect for April and May; not January. Something is wrong with the weather and you don't have to be an Einstein to know that it's not supposed to be 80 freaking degrees in January.
enjoy?
Climate change is real. Fox fools are brainwashed.
wait until summer. Texas is in on its way to become another Sahara. Remember that GWB in Crawford has his own aquifer. Room for thoughts. Bet he will be willing to sell water for more gold to complement his stash.
Curious. How does one purchase an aquifer?
Look at the article! Arkansas storms cause tornados. And the write about Alabama!
If those 'Arkansas storms' stayed in Arkansas, then there wouldn't be anything to write about in Alabama. Are you jealous because 3 people died in Alabama instead of Arkansas?
Pat,
Just so you know, they move, usually west to east.
iits snowing here this morning..,
and your point?
It is 50 here and stormy. Strange for Indiana in January. It may be.........weather. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! No! Not weather! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
What is weather?
Here in Missouri we had a snow storm two weeks ago. Then 5 days later we had severe storms with high's in the 50's. Then 3 days ago we had an Ice Storm! This seems normal to me!
whoch they didnt predict again.. but then again
weve had 4 inches of snow this winter when usually have
44 at this time!!!
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eric, your "stats" are very revealing:
1) They show you are in massachusetts, NE massachusetts at that since both springfield and worcester and the cape areas have had significantly more snow that we have.
2) You believe what u heard (it was a news program it was broadcast over) without question since that 4 inches merely includes what we have had since the new year of 2012 began up until before the last snow storm of 2 to 6 inches (again, dependent upon where u lived in MA). It totally neglects the fact that we had between a foot to 16 inches of snow in a bad nor'easter on 10/19/11 that took down many trees throughout this area and eliminated electrical access for most people between 4 to 7 days, depending upon where you lived. My town's electricity was out for 5 days, even though my brother, 12 miles away, was a rarity and never lost his electricity except for 1 hour on the day of the storm.
3) you didnt pay attention to the news cast last week which reported we had only received 4 inches of snow (before the last 3 inches we got saturday) and that we had 44 inches LAST YEAR by this time, EVEN THOUGH our normal, average snow accumulation by this time is 18.6 in. That tells me you base your "facts" on tidbits heard during a newscast while you are paying attention to something else. It only took 1 minute to hear the WHOLE statement .... I wonder what you were during during the other 40 seconds needed to "get the whole news".
4) that you toss around unsubstantiated parts of statements as facts written in stone.
On 10/29/11, i told e1 that we would have an exceptionally mild winter this year since we had such a storm BEFORE MY NOV BIRTHDAY. Since I was a child, I had noticed that when it snowed b4 my birthday of 11/12, we had milder winters than when it snowed after my birthday. Even just a dusting makes a difference. When it takes a long time to snow after my birthday, we get hammered in Jan and Feb, usually getting bured under nor'easters bring 10 to 18 inches each storm.
I didnt get to finish my post 13.1.
I have notated this fact about winter snowfalls surrounding my birthdays since the 60's. I am 56 yrs old now, so it is merely almost 5 decades that I have witnessed this trend in winter weather.
My inlaws in the worcester county area and in RI have had alot more snow than we have in middlesex county this winter and the cape was just slammed with over a foot of now on saturday.
correction to13.1:
The freak nor'easter that we had was on 10/29.11, not 10/19/11. Because of it, my husband had to be rushed back to the hospital on 10/30/11 since it was too cold and he was too sick with cancer to be without heat. He had just come home 1 1/2 wks prior to die at home. He never made it back home - he died the night we got electricity restored, but before he could be brought back home.
Anyone get tired of these recycled stories every week?
Sorry we're not giving you enough unique entertainment, Sirlafalot.
Recycled stories? Sorry but last Sunday night/ Monday morning over half of us in Alabama was NOT awake watching weather updates.
The moniker of the poster above was "recycled hope". She posted 3 times in a row. Sorry, thought some would catch it.
xo
It is "climate change" and it's real!
If you want to spout the global warming/climate change mantra, at least stay up to date with the latest renaming. The White House changed it to Global Climate Disruptions in September, 2010.
The Sahara desert was a lush savana with vegetation similar to the great plains of the USA just a few thousand years ago. How does global warming via man made pollutants explain that one? I suspect the elliptical orbit of the earth around the sun every 26,000 years has a lot to do with it. Closest point to the sun equals hot as hell and farthest point equals cold as hell. The earth is at mid point right now. Global warming may be part of the problem but our position in space relative to the sun probably plays a much bigger part.
Take everything you read with a grain of salt. I think you will find that money is the great motivator. Money breeds greed on Wall Street and money can breed greed in the sciences just as easily.
Yep. The CCE is (was)a PERFECT example.
your post is the most well thought and written reponse that I have read. People shoud have more facts than obtained by sticking their heads out the door once a day.
well said and I am with you there. We should be watching these impressive solar flares.......the galactic alignment should provide ample proofs for the skeptics.....0 well....all good things come to an end. We have to recycle you know.
Yes, there is money behind the denial. Its called big oil. They are the greatest polluters and the cause of global warming and they are the ones that the denier sheeple are getting sucked in by, hook, line and sinker.
croc,
How true about "science" not being exempt from greed; both monetary and renown.
"Betrayers of the Truth: Fraud and Deceit in the Halls of Science", was published in 1982.
To all you global warming freaks: I live in Alabama and the weather has ALWAYS been like this here. It's location, baby!
I moved to Alabama from Illinois over a year ago...lived all my life in Illinois and never saw a tornado...had one in my rear view last April.
I still like it down here, but I miss the snow...
It's not location....It's Karma
gee, thanks david..
What exactly does that mean, david? Because if you try to pull something stupid and say its because of racism, don't go there. Someone said the same thing last April. One of the hardest hit areas (now and then) was a black community. BTW, when do people who don't live in Alabama get out of the 1960's? Racism down here is a thing of the past. Oh you might get the occasional redneck who is, like you do everywhere, but that's rare. So move on and join the 2000's already.
I don't recall reading of deadly tornados occurring in the winter months 30 years ago.
Is this something new?
you really remember every weather pattern that happened 30 years ago? Or are you thinking "when I was a kid..........."
Unfortunately, I was already and adult 30 years ago. I certainly don't remember national weather patterns from that time. But tornadoes, at least big ones, did make the news. I don't recall any reports of such storms.
Bottom line, you are right, one person's memory, especially of incidental events 30 years in the past do not amount to conclusive proof of anything. I posed the question because this weather event seemed exceptional, at least for the winter, and even in Alabama.
dman 353357, the news wasn't concerned with weather events on the national scene 30 years ago. I guess you are a conspiracy monger.
I didn't read the article, but did the people that were killed, live in a trailer park? God hates trailer parks!
God hates ignorant bigots too.
CCW: If He does, you need to be afraid, very afraid!
I pray for everybody that was in the storm and i pray for people close by the storm that they will be ok. My boyfriend lives in Alabama so i hope he is ok and not hurt.
Clanton and Birmingham have been hit. May be more to come.
Pray? Pray to whom - the God that unleashed that storm?
I'm sure he's fine, Jasmine.
BigDumbGuy, please stop insulting those who have been through something bad. Go infest someone who might deserve it!
Perhaps some are giving too much credit for our existence. Official Weather records have been documented since 1846. And yes, there is data to suggest climate change. Data ALSO suggests that climate tends have fluctuated for 10's of thousands of years. Even for the un-educated like myself, The weather patterns have varied more recently than in my lifetime. However, I fully understand that glaciers and seabeds once inundated our continent. Recorded events for the last 150 years is only a nanosecond in the earths existence. I do however regret I did not invest in the Chicago Climate Exchange to fleece the gullible.
A tornado is a lot like an Alabama divorce ..... somebody's gonna lose a trailer.
How nice of you Willie. From the comfort of your mile high and mighty opinion of yourself.
I grew up in KS, so I am more than slightly familiar with tornadoes, and the attendant jokes. You can laugh, or you can cry ... it changes nothing.
"Life is a comedy to those who think, and a tragedy to those who feel." ---Horace Walpole
May your days be filled with laughter.
...and it is tough to identify people in Alabama with the lack of dental records and the same DNA...
alaObama
...and how's your daddy uncle, Rick?
I just want to remind everyone that this morning, in the Birmingham area, there are people too busy with cleaning up debris and making funeral arrangements to argue about global warming. Real people. Thankfully this event wasn't as bad as last year, but still, any loss of life is tragic.
That too much reality for the libtards to handle. Because they are convinced of their own superior intellects, their "self-appointed" superior intellects, they have to make snide, little remarks about the people of Alabama ..... to make themself feel better about themselves. Case in point: #24.4.
jim - around here - those comments are more likely to be made by some conservative idiot - especially religious idiot ones. They seem to have no sympathy for anyone - and - as you accuse liberals - conservatives are convinced of their own Superior Intellect - to make them feel that their belief in God is justified.
I remember the first time I tuned to a Fox Propaganda Station - they were laughing at the death of a teen age son of a famous person - believe in God and the conservative agenda makes that OK in their eyes.
Yikes, I move there in less then two weeks.
Quite a lot of us live here safely. Just use common sense (which seems to be an oxymoron on this news site). Know where your 'safety' place will be. My daughter lives on the 6th floor in an apartment in Birmingham; when the sirens sounded this morning she grabbed her purse and cat and headed for the basement. Last April when the sirens sounded we spent the entire day in the basement with emergency lights and radio and lots of books to read. You pay attention to the warnings and move when you need to. I can't guarantee your safety, but it will help!
I live in a double-wide in central Alabama. When the sirens sound, we go to our in-ground storm shelter, and wait it out. Even my dog knows where to go when the sirens go off. He was dragging me toward the shelter this morning (very smart dog, a German Shepherd mix). Any area of the world has the potential for some sort of natural disaster; being ready is the key to surviving.
yes, but the thing that scared me last year was how some people were in a supposedly safe place and it didn't matter.
However...the way everyone came together to help each other afterward...it was amazing...
I am glad you guys were safe...
C'mon SNOW!
Sometimes, even a basement isn't safe. If the storm is strong enough, and close enough, it can take the house and suck everything out of the basement.
When the storms hit Jefferson County (Birmingham) last April, my cousin and his wife took shelter in a bathtub in their basement. When it got quiet, my cousin opened his eyes- they were still in that tub, but they were on what used to be a neighbor's front lawn- three lots down from where their house had been. His truck was missing, his wife's car was in another neighbor's living room. The only things they had left were the clothes on their backs. One of our aunts has a house in another part of Birmingham, and she had recently been moved to an assisted living facility, so my cousin and his wife are living in her house until they get back on their feet.
The family in Arab that all died...scattered across the yard...with one of the twins the only survivor...someone at work has inlaws who checked on their catfish pond and found three bodies around it...I heard of one poor man who was in his tub, too...but he still died.
Many others...
This certainly puts a new perspective on life, doesn't it?