That is about as funny as his 25 to life sentence!!!!! What in the F is wrong with our system when a person who commits a crime such as this ... is even considered to be put upon the general public again!!!

Its called too many low-level drug offenders being given longer sentences and taking up all the space in prison...Thank Ronny Ragan for that genious move.

Why have tax dollars been supporting this scum's existance for thirty years?

BC005,

LOL !!! Good one...!!

Seriously, can you imagine having that guy for your next door neighbor??? OMG..

hope the country versions better...now... the rock version...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2BFN2F3kZM&feature=related

We once had a sound means of protecting society from vermin of this ilk. . . the death penalty. It is irrational for taxpayers to have to bear the burden of keeping sociopaths alive. They cannot be rehabilitated because they do not want to be.

Those who obsessively cling to incarceration as the answer are irrational. They should read interviews with mass murder Richard Speck and be required to watch videos of him and others in Stateville, Joliet IL. He had a better life in prison than he could have possibly had otherwise. At one point he told a reporter he was having "too much fun" to leave prison where he had easy access to cocaine, moonshine, and deviant sex.

Insisting he was unfairly convicted marks Dingle as a sociopath. For him it's not about his heinous crimes. His focus is on himself as a victim.

To quote Rick James from the Chappelle Show, "Cocaine, its a hell of a drug!"

JXC,

Mandatory drug sentencing goes all the way back to the 50's. One law was a GOP held Congress and the next was a DNC held Congress. The law that passed under Reason was by a split Congress. NY passed a 15 to life law in 1973 for the possession of certain scheduled drugs in the quantity over a 1/4 lb.

It seems to me that mandatory sentencing is pretty evenly split between the parties as to whom votes for it.

Yeah, great title for a song.....look how great "Red Solo Cup" did!

newscover: I totally agree with you. You can get more time for a heck of a lot less serious crime. Hey, I would bet that Mississippi Gov. Barbour would pardon him!

Please don't bother complaining that this guy only got 25 to life. The time for that would have been nearly 30 years ago when he was sentenced, and that's why we've been "supporting this scums existence for thirty years.".

I'm certain that Dingle has been rehabilitated and, if paroled, will move his decapitation practice to Hollywood.

Sounds like the title to a new Carl Hiaasen book to me!

the parole board must take into account all factors, is he rehabilitated, was it a gruesome crime, if released into society, will he be a model citizen and get a job and help support the community(great resume for a job); and if he is released and does it again will it reflect badly on the parole and pardon board; how would you like this person living in the same apartment house as you or your family, so he made a mistake, should we not forgive and forgot. (only if the parole board is all crazy people)

JXC... call me crazy, but I wouldn't necessarily consider murdering someone, raping another person, kidnapping four people, and taking police on a chase in a stolen vehicle a "low-level drug offense".

how about a slow approach, parole him head first, then limb by limb. don't they have hog farms on these facilities? they should have!

jkatze I agree with everything you stated. The problem with the death penalty is that our tax dollars pay to house the future "dead man" until their death. and it's never fast enough.

I also agree with you, jkatze. Excellent post.

People like him are what the dealth penalty is for. If Not, KEEP him in Prison. I don't want anyone like that living next to me. He was "Unfairly Convicted?" WHY? He killed one man, and raped a woman. Being stoned or drunk is not and never should be used a defense.

Anthony California JXC... call me crazy, but I wouldn't necessarily consider murdering someone, raping another person, kidnapping four people, and taking police on a chase in a stolen vehicle a "low-level drug offense".

You missed the point. Neither was JXC, he was pointing our that our prisons have a lot of folks in for non-violent, victimless crimes like drug use and possession, so that the jails are overcrowded, and we have to look to minimize the population because it is VERY expensive to keep someone in jail.

His point is that the 'War on Drugs' is a waste of time, and makes catching REAL criminals, and keeping them in jail, much harder, and much more expensive.

An he's right.

It may be time to make a registry for murderers, not just for sex offenders.

Henry Jekyl, Maybe we'll be lucky and he'll move to Washington DC. where his services are really needed!

To put him back out on the streets would be wrong. While they (and he) may think he has changed, any change is due to him being confined. Once he is free he could relapse and commit even worse crimes. What's worse than killing a man and raping a woman? Committing those acts on children!

I agree with JXC and feel his comment should not have been collapsed.

Military/Law Enforcement background, and he is correct. That is why this country has privately run and constructed prisons. The war on drugs, like all wars, have people that profit from it (Halliburton is a good example). Capitalism is about profiteering, and prisons are one method. . .

One of the saddest days of my life was when I put down my beloved pet...we should not have a problem putting down the scum of the earth...birth control is needed

JXC you are a fool. Thanks Reagan or do you mean Rockefeller but to an obvious fool like you whatever. This guy is a low level drug offender? He killed, dismembered, raped, and kidnapped what is low-level about this you raging moron?

teachusomething - please work on your reading comprehension. JXC is commenting that the prisons are overcrowded due to low-level offenders forcing real criminals the option of parole.

Please also read Fred Evil's response above.

Imagine you were the owner and operator of a prison. You are paid $X for each prisoner you house,. Wouldn't a prison full of people arrested for drug possession be preferable to a prison full of violent murderers and rapists? By preferable I, of course, mean more profitable, and the answer is ,"YES.".

While I agree that this guy is scum, and shouldn't ever see the outside of a prision, AND is the poster child of why the Death Penalty is needed, you can't just rush someone through the system, because you want to save a few dollars. Our system is full of checks and balances. With the advent of DNA tests, look how many people have been released because of overvealous prosecutors, and police. The system in place, with all of the automatic appeals, is there to ensure that an innocent person is not wrongfully executed. If you want the Death Penalty, you get the added cost of the system. The constitution guarantees due process for EVERYONE, not denied to those who we feel don't deserve it. If anyone of you were wrongfully accused and convicted of a crime that put you on death row (it can happen), you would want nothing less. Don't get me wrong, I happen to believe that he is guilty, but he deserves the same due process as anyone else in this country, as guaranteed by the constitution.

One other consideration here, is that after the supreme court halted all exectutions (1967-1977), New York didn't re-instate the death penalty until 1995, so that is why this guy wasn't on death row, because New York's consitition didn't allow for it.

To bad he wasn't sentenced in Texas. Maybe then his sentence would have been right. He has no right being set free. He does not belong in the free world.

teachusomethingJXC you are a fool.

Aside from appearing to be completely ignorant on the subject, you START with a violation of the CoH.

Best of luck sticking around for long.

Here. - but according to republicans, private business is perfect...and unlike the govt, isnt inept.

I just, I dont understand....it's like my world is being tossed upside down...

it's as if it it's not govt, or private business that is "bad" or "inept" but...PEOPLE? INVIDIDUALS?

how could that possibly be????

surely a conservative will come by any minute now and explain to us silly libs how that really works.

I cant believe this nonsense until a conservative sets it all straight.

David Caldwell

You're right !! How did you know? LOL

This "Dingle" guy , sounds to "Dingy" to let out on parole to me.....

That has to be the worst nickname ever! I wonder if they nicknamed him that so that others in prison would make fun of him? This guy should never see the light of day. There is a special chair for him for the crimes he committed and I would gladly pay that electric bill!

Jessica

Huh???? I don't comprehend a word you are saying. If you classify yourself as a silly lib, more power to you, but you are definitely silly! Did you have a point there, or are you just trying to stir up the pointless lib/cons argument at the detriment to the discussion at hand???

Are you really trying to tell us that this person is not responsible for his actions? Is this the fault of the scary evil conservatives? I am sure the conservatives told him to do the crime, and they certainly feel bad for him having to do the time. I think if the conservatives had their way, this man would have been off the tax roles at least a decade ago.

Off with his head!

Don't you know? - these convicts are ALL innocent! Every single one!

This guy should have been taken out to the back of the courtroom immediately after conviction and shot on the spot.

The 53-year-old man is serving a 25-year-to-life term after his convictions on murder, kidnapping, rape and robbery charges. His parole requests have already been denied twice.

Dingle has insisted he was unfairly convicted.

Why wasn't it 150 years to life? I think 25 to life is a bit on the light side. What about how he unfairly ended that bartender's life, raped, kidnapped and robbed. All these things are OK? (sar)

And we think that people who sell horses to slaughter are BAD... No, this guy is BAD!

I saw that last line and laughed. I would love to hear the reason he thinks it was wrong to convict him. I could use another good laugh.

I don't think there is much doubt about what he did in this case.

A perfect candidate for Congress...

OK everybody, simmer down. He never said he didn't do it. He said he was "unfairly convicted." So it's the courts fault.

What's got me riled is that we paid for his incarceration for the last 29 years. A bullet would have been cheaper.

If he's paroled, we'll be reading later about someone else he's killed.

I'm siding with you. I do think there's a chance that someone who murders can still be a product member of society. I don't believe someone who has it in them to kill and order someone else to cut their head off can be trusted, under any circumstances. Drugs or no, it shows a type of thinking that shouldn't be exposed to the world. All it would take is one coke relapse and he's chopping off heads again. Or worse.

His defense?????????/// The drugs made me do it.

His mother testified "My son is a good boy."

Yeeaahhh.....uh...uh...

Denton why do you seem so desperate as to associate the filthy business of killing horses with a human murder? The filthy factory farm industry has enough species to choose from already.

I'm waitng to see if the Governor of New York will give him a pardon. This guy needs parole like I need one of the four Comedians running for President, if I may interject politics into the discussion.Not a fair trial he says , lets ask the man he killed and mutilated and the people he held hostage did they have a fair trial at his Court of law. I don't know the circumstance but I bet he was identified by at least two people. If he is paroled, Manson should be chained to his leg as a lifelong companion. He would then be blessed with Manson's diatribe about society until one of his lady friends cut off his leg and head for good measure. Some people don't ever need to be released, rehabilitated or no. My philosophy is unless you had a gun at your head and was forced to do drugs, you have no right to use drugs as an excuse for whatever you do. I would close down all drug rehabiltitation clinics, give no free methodone, cement the face of the Earth and make every addict root hog or die or spend the rest of his life in prison if he committed a violent crime.

the guy in Grand Rapids MI that killed several people this past year, did so while on a Cocaine and Booze binge as well.

I dont think the coke and booze CAUSED him (or this guy in the article) to do what they did.

they were just given the "liquid courage" to do what was always in their hearts.

I am reminded, in a creepy way of the "good christian" who commented on these vines last week that without GOD what prevents him from killing all the people that annoy him?

I'd hate to encounter THAT GUY on a coke/booze binge...because something tells me, he'd be without GOD and have all the reason he needs to go guns blazing...and then, when he sobered up and found GOD again, he'd swear...he's being unfairly convicted, the devil made him do those things...dont you know!

Isn't it a requirement to be paroled that the person admit their guilt and be at least a little remorseful? Doesn't sound like this guy is even close to being eligible. Drugs or no drugs, the act he performed both the murder, rape and then forced abuse of a corpse should be enough to ensure his stay in the state Hilton for the rest of his life. Parole is for people who have less hideous crimes.

denko95, I know in my state, that is the mandatory sentence for second degree murder. I could see that being the case, and the judge not having any say. That said, I hope the keep him in for a lot longer....until he dies.

dmk65,

I'm thinking more of a "heads off" ??

i think they should flip a two headed coin...heads he's stays ...

After Mississippi, parole boards around the Country are taking a good, hard long look at every convicted killer before they deny his request. Killing someone need not always be judged in the same light. Murder in the heat of emotional distress is not the same as murder for profit and I don't care if the profit hoped for was fifty cents. A man or a woman who kills their spouse in a fit of rage rarely commits the same crime again and may be eligible for parole if the circumstances permit it. But under no circumstances would I parole any person who killed for money or drugs or to prevent his/her apprehension. The law may say twenty five to life but at the same time it is saying to a parole board take a careful look at that sentence and that individual before you grant parole. I don't think this fellow will be seeing the light of day except from behind bars for a few more years.

Thornton,

That seems like a great idea - IF the person is castrated and NEVER allowed to remarry.

Are you honestly saying that a person who pleges eternal "till death do we part" love to a person is OK if they kill them over an argument over who left the toilet seat up???? I have never talked to an anger management councelor who has ever thought that a person in their care will NEVER get violent again.

If that person is allowed out into the world unchecked and not forced to be counceled forever (which the court does not believe in), it is HIGHLY likely that person will become irrationally angry again at a future point in their life. I don't want to be around when that happens, and I certainly don't want children around that person, either.

Think about what you are saying before you say it. The only reason this whack-o did not get the type of time Bundy, Gacy, and Dahmer did is that he only got one before he was caught. No other discernable difference - only his skill (or lack thereof) in hiding it. The courts should be able to look at this as such, and give him 150 years or life, whichever is longer.

Money and drugs are not the problem here. A dysfunctional soul is the problem, and this guys mind is obviously just as dysfunctional, or he could not possibly convince himself that he was unfairly sentenced. So far he has not gotten his dues - a slow beheading is all that is right and equitable. Perhaps a stack of stones on his chest, with one added every hour until his rib cage collapses and the ribs pierce his heart! Then nurse him back to health and repeat until he can't be repaired, and he is no longer a ward of society.

Off with his head!

You said you have never seen a felon who didn't think he was unfairly convicted. Exactly how many felons have you seen? I used to work in a prison. Most of the people in prison signed a plea, so they convicted themselves. Most admit guilt. About half of them really need to be in jail and stay there and they know it. The other half could be helped if the prison system was willing to put in the effort. It is the nuts like this guy that makes the news.

People can turn themselves around including violent offenders, though they do it in spite of the department of "corrections" and not because of it. They often come out worse than when they went it.

There are people who can make it on the outside and should be given a chance, with the proper supervision. This guy just happens to not be one of them.

Jeff I couldn't agree more. There's people who don't even belong in the system. For example: that pharmacy guy who shot the 2 robbers and got charged with murder. The system really sucks, sadly.

yea dummy he also changed his story so many times .oh and not to mention the people who had nothing to do with the whole thing were put in danger for some a$$hole shooting a gun in open public putting them in grave danger get the true facts before you vomit your advise to other people < I live in the state that it happened in andfor your fyi the door is always locked >

While many convicted prisoners do like to say they didn't have a fair trial, the truth of the matter is some don't get a fair trial. Not because the system is at fault, but the administers of the system often come with a set of built in bias. A cop may have a gut feeling, he doesn't look for anyone else, much of the evidence he gathers or gets he may feel is irrevelent. The Prosecutor takes the cops word that this is the culprit, he presents a case to a jury that, lets face it, leans towards the prosecutions claims. The Defendant is given a lawyer who is paid a standard fee which is often as not worth no more than four or five billable hours of his time. He conducts no independent investigation and ninety percent of the time his advice is to his Court appointed client is take a plea. This is not a fair trial but judicially is viewed as one because DUE PROCESS has been followed. Do you for one minute think that Casey Anthony would be a free woman if the State of Florida had not kicked up nearly a million pollars for her defense but gave her the standard Court appointed lawyer. You and I both know that she would be into her third year of life imprisonment if she hadn't had every vestige of a fair trial. We won't start having true fair trials until every Prosecutor asks himself, have I exhausted every attempt to find a reason why this person being charged is not guilty, will every trial be considered a fair trial. My first experiences of Prosecutors was an old radio program where the Prosecutor stated that he was a defender of the public, those charged and those preyed upon. Then we can dismiss those assertions that men behnd bars didn't have a fair trial.

People change, especially over a couple of decades. There are violent offenders who can be rehabilitated. Actually, murder has about the lowest recidivism rate of all offenses. Drug and alcohol users have the highest, but get the least sentences and supervision. Of course this guy should not be released, but to say that there is no such thing as a violent offender turning himself around is just ignorant and competently untrue. Do your research before you make things up. There are plenty of sources for recidivism rates, so go start reading.

I'm not a bleeding heart. A man killed three people and tried his best to make my wife his fourth. I know what it is like to want to see someone executed, though he got life. We can't risk letting him, or this guy, back out. However, to make a blanket statement that each and every person who does something wrong can never be changed is just stupid. Each case is different. One size does not fit all.

Sorry for the rant, but people who want to apply a blanket policy to the 2 to 3 million people we have it jail just gets me going. The department of corrections has so very little to do with correction. They make people worse and we the taxpayers fund it.

And we keep dumping more money into a department that we know doesn't work... So, who are the dumb ones? US! Same with Education... Same with Democrats and Republicans... The parties don't work but we keep electing them.

JeffBham: Thanks for the thoughtful comments. It's a pleasure to read something more thought-provoking than the usual jingoistic primal screams.

ANYBODY who kills even ONE person, other than for self defense or to save an innocent person from being killed, needs to rot in captivity. Let the marijuana possessors out, for crying out loud.

I agree Marlene...

The law as written is supposed to take the revenge equation out of sentencing. I think I know of a lot of men who should never be released, but, and this is a very important but, I don't have the right to determine their final term of incarceration. That should be left to people who are more qualified to make such decisions unless it has been removed from their purview by a jury of that man's peers or the law as written. Nobody knows the trouble you've seen, and no one man should judge you. Unless you want to be judged under the same standards. Let who is without sin cast the first stone, I don't qualify, maybe you do.

Of course let the pot possessors out - pot never hurt anyone. It is only 10x worse for your health than smoking cigarettes and we have virtually outlawed that. It only reduces brain activity to a dangerously low level. It only takes away all ambition from millions of our youth. It is only a cross-over drug to more dangerous and expensive drugs. It only causes one to be more distracted and worse of a driver than alcohol (though you never see anyone say "I am not driving - I have been smoking").

It is good for making rope, sandals, and shirts, though...

Pot is good - m'kay?

Drug dealers deserve a "25 to life" sentence. This idiot deserves a slow and painful death 1 week after conviction by a cheap means with little taxpayer investment.

@JeffBahm - actually, the highest recidivism rates are those who commit burglary and petty larceny, but that is completely irrelevant because the fact of the matter is, most who are convicted of committing murder serve much longer terms or are never released, as opposed to those who commit petty larceny or minor drug convictions. Do you really think we should be sentencing a petty thief to life in prison, because he is likely to re-offend upon release, and murderers 5 year sentences, because, as of today, they aren't as likely to re-offend? You do realize that given lesser sentences those who have killed in cold blood would certainly have higher recidivism rates right?

Archie Midwest, your comment is simply rife with false information and stereotypes. Do your research.

He may have found God, but he can also serve him in the confines of the prison walls. God isn't only out on the streets.

If he has found God lets just send him onto heaven so he can serve him there ?? Problem solved..

Praise Gawdddduh..................

Excellent point, WeAllHaveOpinions.

I think you're more likely to find Allah in prison nowdays.

Isn't Allah a god?

For this guy to even think this way shows he is not stable and a true mental case. Throw the key away!

Agreed Fuzzy. That statement alone makes me think that he is NOT rehabilitated and if released, he would kill again. People get high and drunk everyday. It took more than that for him to kill, rape and kidnap. It took desire. It's doesn't sound like he has any remorse for his victims. He admits to NO wrong doing and that is enough to convince me that he deserves to stay behind bars.

New York State is run by liberals who don't believe in the death penalty. There hasn't been an execution in New York since 1963. Just out of irony the first execution in New York was in 1639. Just mix the number up a little.

I'm a liberal, and I say fry him, save the tax money.

People who whine about liberals don't know @!$%# about liberalism. Outside of what that drug addict Limbaugh tells them.

No death penalty in New York state.

Even with the death penalty in a state, 2nd degree murder doesn't get the death penalty no matter how the murder occurred.Has nothing to do with liberals, conservatives, aliens, or any other form of life.

Limbaugh needs to be locked up with his fellow drug addicts. If you can afford a boatload of lawyers, justice will treat you differently than the average person. As for this killer, bring an Islamic judge to administer his parole hearing.

NYS is willing to crucify-7 years in prison- a law abiding citizen who did not understand that her carry permit was not good in the rotten apple (politically), yet they give a murdering, kidnapping, rapist an opportunity for parole. WTF?

Bet she had a public defender, or cursed at the cop who stopped her. Would you say she had a fair trial since she obviously didn't cop a plea. I'll bet that DUE PROCESS was followed. Due process means all of the paperwork was properly filed, she had the appearance of legal representation, and a bunch of people who hate or fear anyone with a gun, except a cop, found her guilty on the evidence presented to them in Court. The Judge rubber stamped everything as being legal and proper and read the sentence from, the book because she wasted the Courts time for not taking a plea. That's American Justice hard at work filling jail cells in America. I had a near friend who did eight years for RAPING his wife. She was tired of him and faked the whole episode leading up to his arrest. No rape kit was taken, and as he didn't have any money he was given a PUBLIC DEFENDER who spent all of three hours with him before his trial. A Woman Prosecutor, A woman Judge and a eight woman jury found him guilty of rape. and he was sentenced to ten years in prison. He got out in eight because of good time but was immediately deported back to his native Germany because the woman divorced him while he was in jail nullifying his citizenship by marriage. The fact that she refused a rape kit should have sent up flares to the Prosecution. Incidently the woman lost most of her female friends who thought that she had been less than faithful and downright evil for the method she used to get a divorce.

A slow firey death would be a more appropriate but I do like the way you think WyattEarp.

He got 25 to life because that's what NY law requires in the case of second degreee murder, which is what he was convicted of. It has nothing to do with "liiberals" (not "liberal's", by the way) making excuses for him.

Tom, you are correct. In most (if not every) state(s) a second degree murder conviction is short of a "life without possibility of parole" sentence. Even Charlie Manson has been eligible for parole now for years.

This guy was so drug-addled he was probably only slightly aware of what he was doing. It's hard to prove he walked into the bar intending ahead of time to do what he did, which is what first degree murder entails.

But like Charlie Manson and other heinous sociopaths, this guy will never see the light of day. He will die in prison. Even if a parole board does parole him (which it won't), there will be such an uproar that the guy, even if paroled (a distinct hypothetical, I might add), he will never find peace. Somebody will blow up his house.

If he gets out, here's a plan: If he comes to a neighborhood near you (or me) lets invite him in for a "chat", kill him, ruff up the house a littlle, and report a B&E. But you know what? We'll go to jail with life without parole. That's how things work around these parts.

@"the drugs made me do it"

Abstaining is favorable both to the head and the pocket.
W. C. Fields

Drug addiction makes the addicted do things including crimes. But addiction typically only causes those crimes which will help the addicted get more drugs, such as murder that occurs during robbery of either more drugs or money. The crime that Dingle committed is more apparently because of a pre-existing mental health issue, and he probably would have committed the same crime if he was not on drugs. It would be interesting to find out what Dingle's drug-use history really was. By the way, the fact that his mother also maintains Dingle's innocence indicates a family history of mental illness.

Head first Arizona? I like the way you think.

Arizona ALWAYS has the best posts on these message boards!

Amen!

There is a difference. Charles Manson never killed anybody. He's a nut, but he won't get parole because of the publicity. I'm not saying Manson should be let out, I'm just saying that there are people who have actually killed who get out but Manson won't mainly because of the press.

Yeah Hitler never killed anybody either. It's all just bad press.

What JeffBham means is that Charles Manson did not directed, but did not commit the actual Tate/LaBianca murders.

#163.3 should read that Manson directed, but did not commit the actual murders.