Number of homeless female veterans more than doubles

Lucy Nicholson / Reuters

Army veteran Tara Eid, 50, writes an essay at New Directions women's house, a long-term transitional program for female veterans dealing with issues of homelessness, trauma and addiction, in Los Angeles on Nov. 18, 2011. Eid was homeless many times over a period of 10 years.

The number of homeless female military veterans more than doubled from 2006 to 2010, according to new government estimates.

Acknowledging "limited VA data," homeless female vets numbered 3,328 in 2010, according to a report by the General Accounting Office published on Monday, up from 1,380 in 2006.

The report says actions are necessary to ensure homeless female veterans get the housing and services they need.

The GAO says a lack of coordination among the Veteran’s Administration and Housing and Urban Development, two government agencies that provide housing and services to homeless veterans, is hampering efforts to help these.

Report: Growing number of military women see combat

“Absent more complete data, VA does not have the information needed to plan services effectively, allocate grants to providers and track progress toward its overall goal of ending veteran homelessness by 2015,” the report said.

 “In reality, the number of homeless women vets is probably much higher, maybe by a factor of one-and-a half times,” Patrick Sherlock, executive director Project Foot, a Florida group that helps homeless veterans, told msnbc.com on Tuesday.

“They don’t count vets who are living in shelters,” Sherlock said. “And they don’t ask homeless people on the streets if they are veterans.”

Homeless numbers down, but risks rise

The increase didn’t come as a surprise, Sherlock said, because of the increase in the number of female veterans overall. But he said there is no doubt the problem of homelesseness among veterans is "getting worse."

"Many returning vets have major psychological issues that leave them on the streets," Sherlock told msnbc.com. "Call it PTSD, shell shock or battle fatigue, they're not right."

Two-thirds of the homeless female veterans were between 40 and 59 years old, the report said, and over one-third had disabilities. In addition, many of these women lived with young children.

The report said homeless female veterans are often not aware of services available, and often shelters that are available do not take children.

“Without improved services, women — including those with children and those who have experienced military sexual trauma — remain at risk of homelessness and experiencing further abuse,” the report said.

The GAO urged the VA and HUD to collaborate to ensure proper data is collected on homeless female veterans, and ramp up services such as referrals to shelters and transitional housing.

On any given night some 67,000 veterans are homeless, according to the National Coaltion for Homeless Veterans, with men making up an estimated 95 percent of the total.

According to the GAO, officials from the VA and HUD “generally agreed” with the findings.

The report also points out that the number of female veterans will continue to rise as service members return from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“Some of these women veterans, like their male counterparts, face challenges readjusting to civilian life and are at risk of becoming homeless,” the report said. "Such challenges may be particularly pronounced for those women veterans who have disabling psychological conditions resulting from military sexual trauma and for those who are single mothers.”

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Shameful.... You ladies are in my heart and prayers. If I had the space, cash and clout I would make it better for you all. Alas, I am one foot on a banana peal and one next to the curb.

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#1 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:03 PM EST

I'm sick of people always concentrating on women. No-one wanted to help veterens much, until homeless female vets started increasing at an alarming rate. I find every bit of it sickening.

  • 8 votes
#1.1 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:14 PM EST

I know a lot of you, men as well as women veterans are in shock at where you have ended up after serving your country. Very few people(female veterans) really know just how bad it really is. I am a female veteran from the Vietnam Era, and when I got out of the service and I went to the Veteran's hospital to see a doctor because I was pregnant, they had no services available for me. Then when I finally had my breakdown due to PTSD from sexual abuse and verbal abuse from the soldiers returning from Vietnam, I ended up on the psychiatric wards in the Veteran's Hospital. And would you like to know how that turned out? I was the only female on the ward full of male veterans. And you can imagine the filth I had to listen to and the solicitations from them. The same men that I had to deal with while on active duty. The last time I was a patient on the psychiatric ward was in 2008, and despite all the many years that have passed, I still ended up on a ward with men, and it just broke me down. It is unfair and ashame. Right now I have a nice place to live due to housing, but when I first came here, I too ended up in a residential center for homeless veterans, and although others came later, I at first was the only female veteran and under abuse by one of the male veterans. So, my heart goes out to you my female veterans and don't give up, there are always ways to get around it. I love all of you are where I once was, may God be with you.

  • 19 votes
#1.2 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:17 PM EST

Do you understand the word misogynist, Mike? Do you have any idea of the difference between what a female faces versus a male in a homeless situation? I have worked with the homeless and my heart has been so wrenched by what women have to deal with out there. Yes, female veterans who are homeless should cause more concern for those who care and may bring more attention to homeless veterans in general.

  • 16 votes
#1.3 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:17 PM EST

Vets treated like this and all the idiots can do in Washington is push for the next war.

  • 14 votes
#1.4 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:18 PM EST

I think the point is that the issue of homeless male vets has been in the news and recieved widespread attention and that the women, until now, have been ignored. And if it were up to women haters like you it would continue to be ignored.

  • 13 votes
#1.5 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:20 PM EST

I'm sure George Bush and his cronies allowing private contractors to send home suspects of sexual assult with immunity isn't helping many cope with sexual trauma mentioned in the article.

  • 5 votes
#1.6 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:24 PM EST

My sperm count are low!!! What the hell are you gonna do about it???

  • 1 vote
#1.7 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:32 AM EST

Well kornfed, as a suggestion, you could go to your local redneck bar, I'm sure there might be some bubbas there that would bend you over, you'd have to change some of the letters in your name then, or drop you on your knees in the bathroom. Your sperm count would increase dynamically. I'm not saying...I'm just saying.

  • 6 votes
#1.8 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:46 AM EST

why should veterans be any different.look around you.in every american city im seeing more homeless.listening to the presidents speech tonight he knows all about it.he blames outsourcing but makes more free trade/job exporting treaties.im sure things would be different if he wasnt getting hundreds of millions in campaign contributions from the outsourcing companies and their billionaire owners

  • 6 votes
#1.9 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:32 AM EST

The military industrial complex, war profiteers and war mongers are accustomed to using up men and women to wage wars but discard them like trash once the war is over and the medals are issued.

While the WallSt FatCats get trillions in bailout and political candidates report tens of millions in annual income, millions of veteran who answered the calls of the nation are homeless or dead or surviving on subsistance.

Succumbing to the rhoretic about 'liberty, freedom, and the American Way' they have all become fools fighting and dying for America's privileged class, The Men of Power. They even got the women fighting and dying for them--after spreading their legs and using them up. Anguish does not adequately describe the exploitation of these women by the Men of Power.

The picture is now clear. The working stiffs are slaves and their children sacrificial lambs to ensure the financial well beings of the FatCats and Political Elites.

  • 6 votes
#1.10 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:03 AM EST

Unfortunately, in almost every war we've been in, this is what happens. You have soldiers returning to a changed nation and economy. It even happened during the civil war, when soldiers couldn't find work after the war up until the Iraq wars. Nothing changed. The difference is that during WWII and the Vietnam war there were "programs" created for jobs, housing and training. Most of these people went to Army because they were uneducated and couldn't find "good" paying jobs. A few went to the Army because of "patriotism".

What I don't understand is what about their families? There's an aunt or uncle, mom or dad somewhere who can take these vets in. But a lot of them come back with mental illnesses and unstable.

  • 1 vote
#1.11 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:54 AM EST

The picture is now clear. The working stiffs are slaves and their children sacrificial lambs to ensure the financial well beings of the FatCats and Political Elites.

People are starting to realize facts. ECONOMIC SLAVERY. We didn't end slavery, we just morphed it into smoke and mirrors. It isn't just female vets. We do this to all below the 'wealthy' stratus. Yesterday I was informed of pipa's new $2100 handbag and I was in awe at the thought of her godlike status. NOT!

  • 8 votes
#1.12 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:19 AM EST

I bet we could help all of these women for at least 10 years if US military just bought one fighter jet less than scheduled...

Amazing that crap like that is happening while US spends more on defense than the rest of the world combined...

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#1.13 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:44 AM EST

Judging from the post written by women above they want to join the military, get the money, benefits and everything else equally with the men who join but want sexually segregated amenities. The military is not an exclusive club. Go any place where you have a bunch of 20 to 30 year old men and women and it is not your local church picnic. Many wrong decisions are made by people in that age bracket but to blame everything on the military is a cop out. No one can say who would end up on drugs, on the street and pregnant if they didn't join the military anyway. That happens.

Frankly I'm tired of everybody blaming their problems on the military and wanting compensation from the VA. I was in the military and in combat and my reward was to just get out, start my life and do something creative and leave the past behind. VA compensation is deserved by the many who have related problems, not enjoying the food or comments from your brethren in arms shouldn't qualify someone for PTSD.

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#1.14 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:04 AM EST

Another amazing job under the Obummer administration, we can send them off to fight and make millions for our war machine corporations, but once they come back, let's just sweep them aside.

Yes, Obummer 2012! Let's see even more veterans go homeless after we bring them back from Afghanistan!

Obama, I give you full permission to use that as a campaign slogan, really!

  • 1 vote
#1.15 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:12 PM EST
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The way America treats its veteran is DISGUSTING. All the millions generated for the military industrial complex, in wars that often have no point other than generating these revenues and these scumbag warhawks will not even care for the brave soldiers who laid it all on the line to serve them. Absolutely SICKENING. ANY war veteran should be GUARATEED a good standard of living for the rest of their lives, PERIOD.

  • 22 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:18 PM EST

leroy brown - All the millions generated for the military industrial complex

Face the fact that the US Military Defense Industrial Complex that got the US out of the Great Depression, 1939, before US Entry into WWII, 1941, employs almost a hundred million expensive overpaid US Citizens. US President FDR created the US Military Defense Industrial Complex after his New Deal to the American People Failed (US Government spending money did not have to create jobs). President FDR also knew that US Consumerism would NOT get the US out of the Great Depression like the sales of "War Materials" would and did, now a days known as Foreign Military Sales.

To this day the Foreign Military Sales generates US Jobs, and offsets the US Trade Deficits. Previous examples would be the "Deal of the Century" of F-16 Foreign Military Sales, there were other Foreign Military Sales that are still generating Profits for the US, like the Foreign Military Sales of F-15s, resulting in the continued employment of US Citizens making repair parts, performing maintenance, upgrades, retrofits, complete rebuilds, etc.. To even get close to this how many Apple iPhones (Made In China) would you have to sell to equal just one F-15 sold to US Ally Saudi Arabia.

What should and could happen pertaining to US Military Veterans will never happen under this Administration. Being a US Military Veteran more than once (Vietnam, "Cold War", South and Central Americas, First Gulf War, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.), this Administration has been the worst, and I am happy because of that, that I was Recalled to Active Duty again (and again and again).

A very simple question how can this administration provide more benefits to US Military Veterans without increasing the Budget for US Military Veterans while increasing the numbers of US Military Veterans (the RIF of 27,000 US Military Personnel, plus the 10,000 US Military coming back from Germany soon to be RIF'ed also and those returning from the Wars.).

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#2.1 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:47 PM EST

The US has treated it's veterans shabbily from the time they screwed the Revolutionary War vets out of their back pay, through the forseeable future, and every day in between.

  • 3 votes
#2.2 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:04 AM EST

ANY war veteran should be GUARATEED a good standard of living for the rest of their lives, PERIOD.

Hear, hear!!!

  • 3 votes
#2.3 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:37 AM EST

Both men and women homeless vets can be assisted at very low cost and quickly. For example: Fort Wayne, Indiana vet hospital has some land which may have housing built on it for homeless vets. Being debated.

Meanwhile, the northern half of Indiana has 10% vacant homes per US census. Therefore, those which are within current building codes could be purchased at 50% market from freddie and sold as VA, zero down, to the homeless vets AND those returning from the middle east.

I think some white house czar could write up the prescription, have the prez sign the exec order and move off the dime within 4 weeks.

Sure, there will be some failures, especially among those having the nightmares. But, having a good home may also help alleviate nightmares.

22 million vets, 6 million combat vets, 1 million with nightmares. Please feel free to listen carefully to any vet who trusts you enough to confide in you. If you sense the person is in real deep sadness, do not be afraid to phone VA for immediate help.

    #2.4 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:36 PM EST

    I agree and its time that this government really do for us and not EVERY TOM, DICK.AND HARRY.

      #2.5 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:38 AM EST
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      Sad to see this type of equality with male veterans. I am appalled by war, but American veterans deserve better than this. No person who has risked his or her life defending this nation should be abandoned to homelessness.

      • 21 votes
      Reply#3 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:00 PM EST

      What a country. A wealthy man who shelters his kids from service wants to be president, and the people who put their lives on the line to protect us are homeless. It stinks.

      • 24 votes
      Reply#4 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:40 PM EST
      Comment author avatarNoBama 2012 Is The FutureExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

      And I bet you voted OBAMA!!!!! How is that hopey-changey thing working out for you?

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      #4.1 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:54 PM EST
      Comment author avataralan-333244Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

      'No Bama' you are not on subject, But since you asked it's working for me but nothing is fast enough but what I want will take time.

      President Obama for 2012!

      • 13 votes
      #4.2 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:25 PM EST

      Obviously he cares more about (N)Obama than the homeless shattered vets who fought for his right to complain. That's how the right wing destroys reason.

      • 5 votes
      #4.3 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:17 AM EST

      Hmmm...Obama, he's the President that got Osama Bin Ladin after 8 years of Bush doing squat?He's the guy that's bringing Americans home from George Bush's wars over the protestations of the Republiclown legislators right? And wasn't it the Republiclowns during Dubya's years that voted to strip funding from the VA and veterans help organizations leaving them to beg for money? Yes, by God it was them. And now somehow the GOP 'base' have been told that Obama is a 'war lover' and they fall for that like sheep? What are they gonna do when Obama wins again? Go out and buy more guns? Funny stuff.

      • 6 votes
      #4.4 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:54 AM EST

      Has any one else noticed that the only candidate who is a veteran is also the only candidate who would just flat stop the wars and bring the troops home?

      • 3 votes
      #4.5 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:21 AM EST

      it sure looks like the choices were going to have for president is going to be romney,a wall street insider paying a whole 15 percent in tax,yeah he will do a great job for the whole country.or newt a degenerate philanderer who helped make the housing crisis with his support of freddy mac and fannie mae.or better yet or current president who during his speech tonight made it clear hes all to well aware of the destructive nature of his unfair trade practices ???[against america???] and the outsourcing they cause,but does them anyway.and this is the best america can field?crap!

      • 2 votes
      #4.6 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:42 AM EST
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      Makes me wonder why anyone would want to join the milatary.

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      Reply#5 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:43 PM EST

      Try it. Go through the experience. Find out what it's like to give something of yourself. Make a contribution. Then you might understand a little bit of what service and duty is all about. It's not about you. It's about us.

      • 14 votes
      #5.1 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:06 PM EST

      We joined because we wanted to do something for our country. We "asked not what our country could do for us". Why should it only be the men of any nation who get the burden of this responsibility, we're citizens too, and as such, we owe something back as well, even if we are, in many ways, still treated as second class citizens. We're trying to change that attitude as well...

      • 14 votes
      #5.2 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:10 PM EST

      To serve their country rather than suckle from the teat for free as so many do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      I will also stand up again when the next American Revolution arrives.....

      • 5 votes
      #5.3 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:56 PM EST

      John-3222051,

      a. Some of us answered our Nation's Call., b. Some of us were Drafted and stayed in realizing what a big bad World the Real World is., c. Some of us were Drafted then returned as US Military Officers after College believing that we could change the US Military while still knowing from Experience just how bad the Real World really is. d. Some of us were continuely Recalled to Active Duty due to our Real World expertise and knowledge. I am a combination of a., b., c., d..

      I just heard parts of President Obama's State of the Union Address 2012 via the internet, he has flat out stated the decision must be made Strong US Military and treatment of US Military Veterans OR Medicare, Medicaid, etc.. That says it all about President Obama.

      • 9 votes
      #5.4 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:58 PM EST

      As a disabled and widowed retired vet with 2 children I would say DO NOT JOIN. The pay and benefits are not worth giving your life or health. You and your family will not be fairly compensated. (ie: retirement and disability pay = $12,000 a year, try paying medical and dental premiums, co pays, and raise 2 kids on that) Look at the pay and benefit packages that state and federal employees, like police officers have. That will tell you real quick that your government and your country do not appreciate the sacrafices you make.

      And who are you fighting for? To enrich the 1% so they can pick at the financial bones of your family, friends and neighbors.

      Let them bring the draft back. See how the ultra rich squirm and weazel their way out of putting their precious, ivy league bound children in harms way for their country.

      • 10 votes
      #5.5 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:30 PM EST

      joining the military gave me the honor of defending my country. in return for serving my country, i received a trade that helped me get a job once my duty was up. what you do while serving is up to you. if you don't take advantage of the opportunities offered to you it is entirely your fault. no where is it written that you'll be set for life once you join the military.

      • 4 votes
      #5.6 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:39 PM EST

      You did your 4 years, got lucky and got out. Congrats. Try doing 20 years. Think of having a disability solely because of your duty. Think of not being able to work. Try having your husband killed on active duty leaving you with 2 children. I have already exceeded my doctors estimates of my life expectancy. When I die my children will be utterly orphaned. My husband gave the ultimate sacrafice, I am sacraficing half of my life and the well being of my children. Getting through each month financially and emotionally is a struggle. How many physical and emotional scars mark you? What did you lose?

      The words I would like to say to you are unprintable. But I will say you are a selfish, unthinking jerk. All my fault? Yeah, for being loyal, hard working and serving my country.

      • 8 votes
      #5.7 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:40 AM EST

      I couldn't begin to understand the sacrifices you've made yourself for this ungrateful nation, and while I wouldn't completely agree with 21railroader's views about it being completely up to you on what you do in your time in the military (obviously it's not completely up to you) just because he did his 4 years and got a job and benefits out of it doesn't make him selfish, that's like saying a person who works for a living and expects money in return for his/her hard work in order to support himself and or his family is selfish.. I myself did my 4 years in active duty and am now going back to school on the GI bill, but just because I didn't stay the whole 20 years doesn't make me selfish, and I do have great respect and admiration for those who do 20 years because it is not easy.

      • 4 votes
      #5.8 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:07 AM EST

      I didn't even think about it. All the men in my family have always joined up.

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      #5.9 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:28 AM EST

      paramed, NO ONE said life would be easy. Some people are lucky and some are not, some make it happen and some wonder what happened.

      You say that you would not join up again, yet you stayed 20 years? This does not compute. For 20 years ALL you had to focus on was your job as the military just about took care of everything else. AND IF your husband was active duty, you were double dipping. Yup, you guys were making damn good money and when he died, you probably got between 250 and 500 thousand dollars.

      If you blew your pay and now are poor, that is on you and should not be on the country to support you further UNLESS you were injured and then the VA will compensate you. Also not an easy task to get money from the VA, but again, who said life was supposed to be easy?

      BUT then again, what you wrote makes me wonder if you really are a vet. A retired E6 gets more than a thousand dollars a month in retirement...so that number is fishy. You say your husband died on active duty? Then you have his benefits AT LEAST until your kids are adults. You say that you are disabled? The VA will also give you extra money on top of your retirement IF you prove that you have a service connected disability.

      NO..I REJECT what you are writing as it just does not add up.

      I served in Combat Arms for 21 years and I know a little about how vets are treated and again, YOU NEED TO GET OFF YOUR ASS and make it happen. No one said it was going to be easy and maybe that is your problem. You want it all and you want it easy....but again, what you wrote doesn't add up, so I really question if you were in the military for 20 years.

      • 1 vote
      #5.10 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:45 AM EST

      When my husband died the death benefit was 200K. Half of that was put on the house we still live in and the other half is put away for the childrens education. I spent 20 years and am fully retired. I have a service connected disability- but if you knew ANYTHING about how that works you would know that the government REDUCES your retired pay by the amount of disability recieved. ie: If you get $1,000. a month and your disability pay is $400, then your retired pay automatically becomes $600 so that you do not make more than your original retirement pay. So YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. My retired pay is 694. a month and my disability is 443, so I was off a bit- I make 13K ayear. And I wonder what exactly am I supposed to get off my ass to do? I have applied and am fighting the system to have my disability rating increased. They will most likely approve it after I am dead.

      You are a loud mouthed, know it all buffoon. Since you don't seem to know jack about retired pay, disability and death benefits I reject your assinine opinion and seriously doubt YOU were in the military.

      You are lucky you have it easy. You could be in my shoes and preparing your children to be orphans. But it didnt happen to you, so like an awful lot of others, you don't give a crap. That is why I say don't join. I worked very hard to be top in my field, for example- was chosen to be on NASA space shuttle recovery team, was also one of the 1st women with a special forces NEC. I never knew how badly my government would lie and treat me.

        #5.11 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:16 AM EST
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        There are no homeless veterans!! Bill O'Reily said so, so it must be true....

        • 12 votes
        Reply#6 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:50 PM EST

        God I'd love to see a homeless Bill O'Reilley.

        • 3 votes
        #6.1 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:56 AM EST

        i think you lie cause bill o'riley would never say such a dam thing like that.

          #6.2 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:53 AM EST
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          I have never heard of a Homeless Immigrant. But our own American's and Veterans are Homeless. It goes to show once AGAIN that all our Government care's about are Foreigner's. They are bringing in people from Somalia by the thousand's and I would bet the farm IF I had a farm that NONE of THEM are Homeless. What A country. It's unbelievable. I don't know what the Hell our soldier's are fighting for. Certainly not for us. It's a National Tragedy.

          • 7 votes
          Reply#7 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:33 PM EST

          You can blame religious organizations for those Somalian immigrant's they are the ones involved they are sponsoring them.

          • 3 votes
          #7.1 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:32 PM EST
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          The truth be known probably a large percentage of discharged military have historically been homeless, at least until they got their s--t together. Now every other one hitch vet has PTSD or wants the government to take care of them for the rest of their lives. The fact that their are a lot of women involved only illustrated an increase in their inlistment. Give me a break, buy a tent and find a soup kitchen.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#8 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:42 PM EST

          Quiet fatty and move out of your parents basement.

          • 3 votes
          #8.1 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:50 PM EST

          kach- As you don't seem to be a vet, try it first, then post. You INSULT EVERY VET. Too bad you didn't study history BEFORE you stated " probable a large percentage of discharged military have historically been homeless"

          • 3 votes
          #8.2 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:21 AM EST

          That wasn't kachiuma talking, it was his azz. He's a smart dumbazz.

          • 3 votes
          #8.3 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:58 AM EST
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          Mental illness is horrible. I wish everyone could experience it for 5 minutes so ignoramuses can't claim it is made up so lazy people can scam the system.

          • 9 votes
          Reply#9 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:51 PM EST

          woman should have never been sent into combat zones

          • 5 votes
          Reply#10 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:51 PM EST

          reg, i was serving in the navy . when women started complaining that they wanted equal treatment so that they would have the same opportunities as men for advancement. well they got their wish. although i may not believe that women should be sent into combat zones, they asked for the chance.

          • 2 votes
          #10.1 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:49 PM EST

          I'm not sure where the women were serving really comes into it. They could have been serving as nurses, working in administration, intelligence,etc. I got the impression the main thrust of the article is that a great many of our vets are facing difficulties like homelessness when they return and for years after. It's more of a clarion call to attend this issue,whether these vets are male or female.

          • 4 votes
          #10.2 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:29 AM EST
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          wait, that can't be right..... homeless, poor people are lazy SOBs that deserve no food, nowhere to live and no health care, right gop? because it's their own fault and they don't want to work. (if they only work hard they can be rich and buy their own politician too! :) ) that's what all the Republican candidates for president say. but veterens are heroes and are to be revered and the military should be given unlimited amounts of money at the cost of all else AND people in our country! right? right? ............

          • 3 votes
          Reply#11 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:53 PM EST

          1 2 3 what are we fighting for, don't ask me they don't give a damn, next stop is the streets.

          • 1 vote
          Reply#12 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:55 PM EST

          Shame on the government!!! Shame on the government!!!! Shame.... shame.... shame!!

          My heart aches for you, dear sisters who served this country.... witnessed horror... then dumped like dog meat when you returned home!!!!

          How can the government allow such a heartless thing to happen to a woman??????

          An they don't count women who live in shelters... as if these shelters are not for homeless!!!! It IS a shelter for homeless for G_d's sake!!!

          • 3 votes
          Reply#13 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:59 PM EST

          I hate to sound cold but what percentage of these men and women needed help before the went into the service? Just curious also are they being forced out of the service? Why don't they open up the bases they've closed and let them live there and take care of it- send some of the older or young gi that need experience or close retirement duties to help? Sounds like a win win and let them be as self sufficient as they can even give them some gov assembly job or teams that respond to emergencies for their states etc (most are trained right?) that the gov can get done for less since they have the housing but enough for their needs till they want to move on?

          • 3 votes
          Reply#14 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:04 PM EST

          All recruits into the military are processed through the Military Entrance Processing Stations (MEPS). A doctor examines each recruit, both physically and mentally. Those not fit for duty in the military are not allowed to enlist.

          You have some good ideas.

          I served in the US Navy for 20 years, did 3 tours in the middle east, and then retired. I ranked in the top 10 percent in the military, was decorated for action during Desert Storm, and was the top sailor at every command. The first time I made a mistake in the civilian world, I was lucky not to end up in prison - in fact, my military service was ridiculed by the district attorney's office. Oh well.....

          • 1 vote
          #14.1 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:14 PM EST
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          Are you kidding.. All they have to do is bed down with some Faggot and they are in like Flint with the current Libfag crowde.. eh

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          Reply#15 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:17 PM EST

          Shameful !!!
          There is no reason that any veteran should be without a home, medical care and any mental health services they need.
          They put their lives on the line and then they are discarded...just shameful!

          All these abandoned homes and buildings and yet they have no homes...why?

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          Reply#16 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:20 PM EST

          I also have often thought about all the empty buildings as being used for group homes for female veterans...espeacially with children or extended families...there are so many in my area and yet no-one does anything and when I approach the subject no-one wants to talk about it, their answers are shameful...crime will increase, prostitution, sucicides, its a bank thing...or my favorite no money-no-time...I think they should stand back a few feet and look at the big picture, they will have that if they don't help or worse, I don't know whats worse but Im sure there is a worse...I heard on the news today that gymnasiums that aren't in use will become homeless shelters, well bravo its a beginning but why not take it further, a home that cant be sold lease it to veterens, a fixerupper...a woman can make a home out of anything if they let her, a kitchen, bathroom and she can begin to heal, throw friends into the mix and you will see a real improvement...whats wrong with that, homeless women veterans is shamefull, ptsd with that and a pre-condition of abuse needs nurturing...truely. lets take this into concideration the next time there's a war or bring back the draft and let the rich worry about their women, the aunts, sisters, moms, and wives that will have to serve if drafted...then worry about homes and care when they return damaged and broken inside and out...this is the United States...United...get it, Lets Unite on this cause, lets bring the military to the banks and the veterans to them...lets help as a country as people helping people...I have read awful things here tonite, terrible awful, things that dont even have anything to do with the subject at hand Homeless Women Veterans, some were viable comments, but others, well you should be ashamed...as I've said someperson somewhere has to know how to initiate this, think about it and try, please try...well, that's it for me tonite...gotta go.

            #16.1 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:48 AM EST
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            The military can be a meatgrinder. Equality in service is a fine objective, but it also means that the meatgrinder has no regard for gender.

            This is not a stunning revelation- veterans often emerge damaged by their service.

            Now what?

            We do what we should have done all along: we make the corporatocracy that maimed them in pointless wars responsible for their care in perpetuity.

            That could be good for more than the simple satisfaction of honoring the warriors who fight for us.

            Making wars unprofitable may be the path to ending them in a world where money directs the path of a nation once concerned with liberty and justice for all instead of profit for the richest.

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            Reply#17 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:21 PM EST

            When they reduce the military budget, and hence layoff tens-of-thousands of veterans, there will be an even larger volume of homeless veterans. Lowering the budget means telling people that have put their lives on the line for US will be forced into the stagnant job market and unemployment lines. How will this improve the eceonomy when thousands more will be added to unemployment? It's not just a reduction of million-dollar missles that get cut.

            Think about our veterans whenever politicians want to cut military spending.

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            Reply#18 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:30 PM EST

            ark,

            rummy and gates cannot find about 1 trillion that they spent in the middle east!! The research budget alone can stand up to a 70% cut and we will not miss a beat in defense. The 'toys' we design, build and deploy are often inferior and do not help the mission.

            The combat engineers robots!! 4 men from here died in afghan two and a half weeks ago. musta been a large under road charge. They drove after the robot said clear.

            Strongly urge we need devices to detect battery ergs from buried cell phones, Or blocking signals on cell phone wave lengths before us and beside us as we drive.

            Or ultra sophisticated depth radar / ultrasound that can show material discrepancy ahead of us.

            Once we know where the bugger is, we can whack it for about $25.00

            We can defend ourselves and all of North America for about 300 billion per year WITHOUT mass military layoffs - except within the pentagon. Also, many foreign so called bases are our listening posts which must be retained. Many have just a few Americans there.

              #18.1 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:54 PM EST
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              The irony with this situation is it is just another example of vets not being able to get a job after their service. The irony exists because ALL of our political leaders (Dem and Rep) FURVENTLY publically, and consitantly demand unconditional help from our govt. to actuate measures to ENSURE the success of our vets once they return home.

              BUT IT IS NEVER ACTUATED by our political leaders (it is super bizarre)

                Reply#19 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:41 PM EST

                It could also be that the Department of Defense has added more typical male jobs to females hence increasing the percentage of females and a equal reduction in males for each service. Actually that started in 1972 when woman recruits were promoted almost from E-1 to E-5's after basic based on prior education or job experience. Now in 2011 the numbers of homeless female vets are up because the total numbers of females on duty are up. It isn't rocket science and in 5 to 10 years the number of homeless homosexual or others will be up because more will be in the ranks. Female gender recruiting is done to protect the volunteer military from having to use the draft since fewer males are interested in military service or qualified. RIFS are typically done at the end of all campaigns and are both expected and painfull. The deficit is hitting $15t and expected to grow to $20t in 5 years. American civilian citizens want a end to imperialism at the rate of $1 trillion a year so something has to give.

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                Reply#20 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:48 PM EST

                Companies should keep an eye out since these women have diverse backgrounds and have been in respected military training programs. Hopefully cities will want to keep these women off the streets and make sure they are positively contributing to the community with their knowledge.

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                Reply#21 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:53 PM EST

                As a vet, I don't think many people understand the highs and lows of combat. There IS a sense of freedom, and a real threat of death, during any combat moment. This leaves many with a deep depression and angst. I've experienced it, and my family and friends have stated how proud they are for me, to overcome this feeling. That didn't help. Many returning vets, male & female, feel a sense of isolation. Mental illness is still not being treated like.... say cancer, etc.. This is a national shame.

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                Reply#22 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:01 PM EST

                Why are they homeless. How do we find out who they are and how can we help them. Are they homeless because they want to be. Believe it or not some people want to be homeless. I didn't say that I understood it but I know it to be true. What mental and drug problems do these women have that they can find a place to live? This article is useless if it doesn't tell those of us how to help or contact these women. I was homeless one time in my life and no one came to assist me either. Yes and a veteran. I always said that I would never allow another person to go homeless if there is anything that i can do to help. Next time you write an article like this provide some worth while information not just that people all over this courntry are homeless. We know that and its going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

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                Reply#23 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:12 PM EST

                There is no reason on earth that any veteran should be homeless . The Department of Veteran Affairs , the federal government and all Americans should step up and help these veterans who are so in need .

                We owe them everything for their sacrifices keep us safe .

                God bless all Veterans .

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                Reply#24 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:22 PM EST

                I’m a veteran (male).

                I see this county giving more help to illegal aliens / refuges; food stamps / housing / medical care.

                I would have liked a better live, in this county.

                But it was given away to others, so they could have a better live and I was left to live on the streets of AMERICA !

                Service your county and then be forgotten.

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                Reply#25 - Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:39 PM EST

                Yakee, it doesn't make sense doesn't it. ALL of our political leaders fervently support vets. but they never follow through with it. It makes no sense.

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                #25.1 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:06 AM EST

                Yakee... you speak the truth. Your scenario and the plight of thousands of vets, both female and male, should have every state and federal politician hanging their heads in shame. How dare we as a country spend tax dollars for illegals in health care, housing, grants for starting a business, etc, BEFORE we make sure every veteran gets the help they need, because they DESERVE our support during service and after.

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                #25.2 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:38 PM EST
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