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Greg Kelly, son of New York City's police commissioner, is under investigation by prosecutors and denies any wrongdoing, his lawyer said Wednesday.
NEW YORK -- The son of New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly is under investigation after a woman accused him of rape, sources tell NBC New York.
A source confirms a woman filed a sexual assault complaint against Greg Kelly, co-host of Fox 5’s "Good Day New York," with authorities at the 13th Precinct.
Details of her complaint are unknown at this time, but Greg Kelly has not been arrested or charged with any crime.
For more, visit NBCNewYork.com
Kelly's attorney, Andrew Lankler, said that his client was aware of the investigation and strongly denied any wrongdoing.
"Mr. Kelly is aware that the New York County District Attorney's office is conducting an investigation. Mr. Kelly strenuously denies any wrongdoing of any kind, and is cooperating fully with the district attorney's investigation," Lankler said in a statement. "We know the district attorney's investigation will prove Mr. Kelly's innocence."
The District Attorney's office declined comment. An NYPD spokesman also declined comment, referring all questions to the district attorney.
The New York Times, quoting an anonymous law enforcement official, said the woman is in her late 20s or early 30s. She walked into the 13th Precinct with her sister after 8 p.m. on Tuesday and made her complaint, according to the Times.
The woman told police she met Kelly on the street, and the two had drinks together on Oct. 8, the paper reported. They then moved on to her office at a Lower Manhattan law firm. According to the Times, the woman told the cops that the rape occurred at the office. The two continued to keep in touch by phone and text message after the encounter.
Sources tell NBC New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly was approached by an unknown individual at a public event who told him that his son had “ruined my girlfriend’s life.”
The police commissioner asked him to explain, but the man said he didn’t want to discuss the issue there. Ray Kelly told him to put it in writing and send it to him.
It wasn't clear if the letter was ever sent.
Greg Kelly, 43, joined Fox News Channel in 2002 and was the White House correspondent from 2005-2007, according to his biography on WNYW's website. A Marine Corps veteran and reservist, he also covered the Iraq War, including four assignments in Baghdad.
Before that, he covered politics for local cable news channel New York 1 and was an anchor and reporter for NewsChannel 34, an ABC and NBC affiliate in Binghamton, N.Y., his bio said.
He also served for nearly a decade in the Marine Corps and is now a lieutenant colonel in its reserves.
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A Marine who works for Fox? I'm familiar with the type.
As of yet, a totally unsubstantiated claim, but the libs will jump all over FOX. Don't you just love NBC.
We can actually call OUR station NEWS(truth), yours is Entertainment(lies)
JR - what did you expect - it's a self proclaimed left leaning news station - now the question is - why on earth are you a reader of nbc/msn news service? You might find you are happier over at Fox.
Katheryn
Unlike some people, I look at both sides and form an opinion. Most of the time, my opinion of MSNBC is not that high. They seem quite biased with their reporting. And I also like seeing my comments collapsed by left leaning people who have no backbone. Anyone can click on the "collapsed" line and still read the comment. Then they can make their own decision as to who is rational.
Katherryn: They actually think they can change us into fox lemmings like themselves, LOL
JH, you want to talk backbone, I go blog on fox and get 1 post in and the f 'ers ban me. They don't want their lemmings to see the truth.
That doesn't surprise me. They prefer a more educated blogger. I really haven't seen any thought out post from you yet. It is obvious you don't like FOX, but that could be said of 90% of the bloggers on this site. Give us something new.
jh, that explains why you're not there.
JH: Bull$hit, you see some of the imbred jebs there, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease.
Now why on earth would she stay in touch and text a guy who raped her ?
It is news because the accused is the son of the NYC Police Commissioner and the alleged crime took place in NYC.
and Fox news ratings kick butt.....nobody even close.
JR - msn openly says it's perspective is left leaning,so when I read or listen to them I go in knowing the news is slanted.(but then I like that slant,eh - that's why I'm here) But I feel you on trying to get a balanced view -I do the same truthfully,I can often jump in on both sides of the same issue.
And I really hear you on people who collapse a comment because it is a differing view - I have seen that on both sides of the aisle and it just infuriates me!Derogatory -yes /inflammatory -yes - but some of these I uncollapse and I'm like - for real?!
The "rape" took place at her office in Oct and she just now complains???? The demand for money must have been ignored.
Nighthawk - I thought the same thing - very,very suspicious!
watt - reality shows keep butt on ratings - the lowest common denominator will always kick butt -not a high endorsement (of couse, unless -it is something I back,then of course,high ratings is the highest compliment! a little cheeky for your morning)
Night Hawk....No kidding...you don't keep in touch.
So why the story unless the point is the very word heavy headline....
Here is what it sounds like....woman meets prominent man....woman likes man...man likes woman...women forgets to mention to man she has a boyfriend...boyfriend finds out about man...woman tells man about boyfriend to get some sort of committment....man finds situation complicated and dumps woman....woman claims rape to gullible boyfriend....boyfriend wants justice for woman...woman must file rape charges or loose boyfriend....woman is a $(^% who might have ended up with a payday to cry wolf on a prominent man....
Night Hawk that was exactly what I was thinking. If someone raped me I don't believe that I would want to continue talking and texting with that person. I think something strange is going on and her continued contact with him seems to discredit her claim.
The text messages back and forth afterward are the key here. Was she confronting him on the rape and was he being apologetic? Where they being chummy?
As always, despite the news station, innocent until proven guilty.
Katheryn
That's JH not JR, but I like your attitude. I'm pretty sure I've never heard FOX say they don't lean to the right but at least I do see some very staunch left leaning people on that network. I can't stand how far left Alan Combs is but I will listen to him. I really don't care for how bombastic Hannity is but someone has to balance out Lawence O. Politics can be fun.
He "sexually assaulted" her, yet they kept in touch?
Something doesn't add up here....
All I will say is I am not at all surprised.
Why wait four months to cry rape?
JH - politics is not worth getting our knickers in a twist - that's for sure! (and yea, my husband will say,"Kat,this guy on Fox is actually very reasoned" -he keeps me tempered.)
Eric - interesting take on the texting. Of course this boyfriend thing - she had a boyfriend and had drinks with this guy??! (I don't know -maybe she didn't have the boyfriend at the time) The jury is still out on this one - but it's looking real suspicious to me.
Could it be this is the story she told her boyfriend? He raped me! I say the emails and texts will give a good insight into what happened. If the dude raped her then lock his ass up. I don't care who his daddy is. If he didn't then lock her ass up for filing a false report.
Sounds like her boyfriend caught her with her knickers down and she needed a fall guy to cover her own indiscretions. Then cries rape months later? Move along, nothing to see here. Just another vengeful bitch trying to destroy the life of a man who rejected her after she fell for him.
Investigation ??....NYPD Detectives are going to shred the accusers reputation way worse than the maid that claimed Frenchy Strauss Kahn of the IMF raped her....
This gals story was not too credible to start out with....
And P.S.....Greg Kelly did some admirable Journalism reporting from the front lines in Iraq and as WhiteHouse Correspondent for FoxNews before he joined the Local Fox5 Station as a local newscaster...
This story is way more about his relationship to NYPD Commissioner Kelly than it is about where he works.
Who thinks the son of the NYPD Commissioner will ever even be charged ???
I don't believe her. I think this is a cry wolf sort of story. Some one is out to get ray Kelly out of office and i smell a rat. I would if I was his lawyers demand to see the woman's rape report and look in to her past. How many innocent lives has she and her boyfriend ruined.
Oh I agree Mark! Rape and sexual harassment are such serious allegations and should be treated as such.Like you said - if he raped her - lock him up - but if he didn't - a huge counter charge is in order
Can't believe I'm agreeing with JH on this but it reeks of character assassination. For all I know the guy is a rapist tool, but you're innocent until proven guilty and this pretty much makes him a sex offender in most people's eyes even if it's proven false later.
Geez guys, my post 1.1 got the most votes and you can't stand it. Just had to collapse it. Is my opinion different than yours? See what I mean Katheryn?
been there, done that - I really am not defending a rapist but I also will not hang a person on an accusation. I appreciate your agreement.
Katheryn: Why read MSNBC? It's called know your enemy.
Wherearethejobsboner: Probably the only one you've had for a while.
No Party Affilication: "Not suprised." C'mon....tell the truth. You're surprised the lights turn on when you flip the switch. Sorry, on second thought, it would appear your lights have never come on.
MT - you had me until the "bitch" comment.(you know - it's women like this that give the rest of us bitches a bad name -like something other than bitches)
He'll get a slap on the wrist and told to keep his little thing in his pants for a few months.
JH - LOL - Yeah, don't you just love it - you waved a red flag in front of them honey! (if I knew how to uncollapse these things,I'd do it -poop on 'em)
Judge, "How do you plead ??"
Accused, "I plead insanity, your Honor"
Judge, "INSANITY ???"
Accused, " Yeah, I'm just CRAZY about that girl !!"
Judge, " Bailiff......Whack his pee-pee !!"---------Cheech and Chong
Its funny that MSNBC would even report something like this. I mean we heard almost nothing from MSNBC when Rachel Maddow was under investigation.
They met on the street, had drinks together, went to her office, He raped her, then afterward they continued to keep in touch by phone and texting. This is, according to the female copulator. Say what!????????????
"This is what Fox Lowlife News is all about" They are a dishonor to real "honest" News !
I don't know if anyone noticed, but this guy is not an anchor on Fox News. He co-anchors the morning show on FOX 5 NY...which is like "Good Morning America", etc. I watch the show now and then, and all he and his co-anchor do is banter back and forth and do those "cutsey" news reports like are normally found on all these morning shows.
Might be an opportunity for the moderators to check into the censorship of this vine...seems the eager to suppress speech are out again.
Patriotic American U.S.A.
Yo, "patriotic" moron. The story has nothing to do with FoxNews, try reading more than the headline and you won't seem like a raving lunatic.
On this whole board there is apparently only one other person ( Lisa-2117541) who has the intelligence to realize the guy doesn't work for FoxNews. Fox is a broadcast station, you know, it's the channel you watch American Idoit, er...I mean Idol, on. Yes they are owned by the same person. No they are in no way affiliated aside from that.
I find it humorous that so many want to assign a person's sexual proclivities a political slant. I'm not sure that just because he works for FOX we can assume he is a conservative, anyway. Maybe he considers himself a journalist? Whatever, can we assume that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree? His father was a VERY fast rising star in the police department. And his (the father's)mentors have always been democrats. He received fasttrack promotions under Dinkins. He was considered for the ambassador post to Vietnam by Clinton and was recommended to become FBI director by Dem senators. (My understanding is he turned the position down. Not 100% sure of that, though.) So, I think it's a good guess that Greg Kelly was at least RAISED (and received whatever morality training he did receive) in a democrat household.
I am almost ready to absolve this man of rape. When it's at an office, a semi public place, the woman would have surely yelled out for help. Then there's the timing of the event, waiting so long to report it. Then there is the angry/jealous boyfriend that gives the woman a motive to lie; and finally the continued contact. She probably thought she was going to trade up on her current boyfriend, then realized this was fox guy was not going to get serious with her, then she got caught and wanted to placate her current boyfriend.
I recommend she gets married, goes to church, and stop sinning. Same to all you newsviners. Peace be with you.
I'll stand by my comment Katheryn, some women are bitches, some men are pigs or even rapists. this woman sounds like a bitch. Personally I've always had an attraction to promiscuous women but the bitch thing scares the hell out of me since one tried to "destroy me" (her words) after I refused to see her anymore.
I know Greg personally. He is a great man and Marine. My husband worked with him. This all sounds very fishy to me. I hope the investigation is fair and the truth comes out.
The other thing that stinks about this is why does her boyfriend confront his dad when he is a 43 year old man? This stinks of a witch hunt bad...of course I knew the lib loonies would be out in full force once the article used Fox in it's headline...if the guy is guilty hang him by his marbles but until then let's see how this plays out people.
Kelly is a good looking guy who could probably get some any time he wants it. Why would he need to rape someone? On the other hand, rape never makes sense. I don't understand how anyone could get off forcing themselves on another person.
It seems that those that supported the accuser of the the Duke Rugby team are in need of a replacement project.
"According to the Times, the woman told the cops that the rape occurred at the office. The two continued to keep in touch by phone and text message after the encounter.
Now why on earth would she stay in touch and text a guy who raped her ?"
She's a liar.
Now with that said, I have to chime in on the "left/right tv stations" argument.
Are any of you aware that we do not have freedom of the press in this country? Yes, it can be proven (it will just take a little effort on your part). Almost (note: almost) everybody owns either a VCR or a DVR & you probably know another person who also owns one of these; You will need their help.
Pick a morning (any morning). Record one of the morning shows (Today. GMA. CBS Morning show). Have your friend record another. Watch the third & TAKE NOTES. When the show is over, review the tapes, referring to your notes. You will find that they ALL give us the same stories and the same information.
What I find totally amazing (amazing that they thinks we are all stupid) is when they will say "we have an exclusive live interview with...........(insert name)" and yet, if you flip over to the other stations they also are interviewing the same person-live-AT THE SAME TIME. It's neither "live" or "exclusive". At best, it's RECORDED live. Of course, that right there makes no sense; Isn't everything that is recorded, recorded "live"???
It does seem counter-intuitive, but stranger things have happened.
In cases of acquaintance rape, the man can often try to convince the woman that it wasn't rape. For any number of reasons, a woman can listen to him and even start to believe him. She may even convince herself that she was not forced, as a coping mechanism. Many women also blame themselves at first, and it takes them a while to realize it wasn't their fault.
Many things can happen after the fact that don't mean she wasn't forced into an unwanted sexual encounter.
I'm not saying any of these things are the case here - we can't know unless we were there. However, things are rarely as cut-and-dry as we would like them to be, and many things are possible. Don't be so quick to judge either side in this case without the facts.
Come on, Kids. Don't go silent on me now.
@U don't say-3994780
Wrong. Just because all of the major news agencies choose to spoon-feed all the same drivel that the mindless masses demand doesn't mean they don't have the "freedom" to do something different. It just means that if they did they'd go out of business. If you want something differnent you have to look to sources that are not utterly dependant on advertising. Try this for a change of pace-http://reason.tv/ Proof that there is indeed "freedom of the press in this country".
If the advertising dollars dictate what is done, then it's not really "freedom of the press".
That would make it "freedom of the mint".
definitely seems fishy. she's waited too long, she continued keeping in touch with him, and I'm sorry but I have a hard time believing that she met a guy at the bar, had drinks, then went back to her office with him but did not intend to have sex or do something of that nature. either something didn't pan out like she thought, or she's looking for an easy payday/15 minutes of fame. Not like that hasn't happened before. On the other hand, this guy seems full of himself and that's often the type who force themselves on women b/c they just can't believe a woman might not want them.
I'm not hiring any of the above posters as private detectives.
Her boyfriend cracked the story - now to make it look like she didn't cheat, she claims to be a victim. If she liked the news guy - she is most likely a conservative (unless this is a case of opposites attract....since she's a lawyer, there is a very good chance she is a conservative and likely a 1%er).
Women fall for male con jobs all the time then regret it later. Her boyfriend caught on and she came up with an alibi - lawyers do that well. Half the people reading this story that have been cheated on or cheated, know the story all too well. She was forced to make a choice - keep the old boyfriend or risk that the news guy would actually stay interested in her after he had bagged his trophy.
I have an ex who tried to baffle me with BS after she cheated (intellectuals think being a little smarter entitles them to do things and that those who they deem as lesser won't catch on) - you are either desperate and stay together or you move on.
So now the neo-cons want to blame MSN - yep, stone the messenger. FOX probably has her phone tapped now...lmao.
"Narcissists think being a little smarter entitles them to do things and that those who they deem as lesser won't catch on"
Fixed it!
jules78...(#1.55).." On the other hand, this guy seems full of himself and that's often the type who force themselves on women b/c they just can't believe a woman might not want them."
And you could tell all that from his photo in the article ???...Very presumptuous of you I think.
I used to go to a Web Cam community and there was a guy who said he was a FOX News radio person (and bragged about who he interviewed and his rare appearances on TV) - I know of at least two women who were impressed with his slick manor and hooked up with him. One of them became very upset when he didn't give her much attention once he scored with her.
Guys become athletes and actors as much for the tail as for the actual craft/ability they have. Every jock who ever played a sport in High School, wanted to do the hottest cheerleader...every guy in drama class wanted to get the leading lady...every guy in choir wanted the....oh wait, I was in choir...better stop before I incriminate myself :P
@U don't say-3994780
Get a dictionary and look up the word "freedom". Accepting advertising dollars is NOT mandatory, it's a choice.
@drainbramage
I think it's safe to say no one would hire you either. Where on Earth did you get the notion that "she is most likely a conservative"? I assume you bent over and pulled it out because this guys dad is a big time liberal who was in consideration for the FBI Directors job under Obama. Let me guess at the "logic" you used, you assume the anchor is a conservative because he works for a broadcast tv station that is owned by the same person that owns a conservative cable news station, therefore she must also be a conservative. Is that correct? That somehow makes sense to you? 2+2=35? And you're critisizing other peoples decective skills? Really?
"Guys become athletes and actors as much for the tail as for the actual craft/ability they have. Every jock who ever played a sport in High School, wanted to do the hottest cheerleader...every guy in drama class wanted to get the leading lady...every guy in choir wanted the....oh wait, I was in choir...better stop before I incriminate myself :P"
LOL
It's not just the jocks & actors who go for the cheerleader & the leading lady, all straight guys want 'em.
Backcountry, why so bitter? No one is attacking you. Sheesh. I stand by my statement; If the "news" agencies are going to let the advertising dollars dictate their actions, then it's not really "free". It's kinda like your boss saying: "You do this (whatever "this" is) or you don't have a job-with me." In a society where 99% are living paycheck-to-paycheck, it doesn't leave one feeling very "free", now does it?
@U don't say-3994780
Don't assume someone is "bitter" because they like to point out facts and reality.
At which point I would have the freedom to tell him to go to hell if I didn't want to do what he was asking. No one is forcing me to work for anyone. Again I have choice; choice = freedom.
First off your stat is utter BS. Like I've always said, if you have to use gross exaggeration to prove your point you probably don't have a valid point to begin with. Second, just because you don't "feel" free doesn't mean you're not. Most likely it means you don't have the balls to exercise your freedom as the example you use demonstrates.
You did make me chuckle MT - and yeah,I've met both kinds too! And they just take so much fun out of the bedroom! ;~)
Txmom - I think these people who so readily go around collapsing comments must have a secret signal - the minute one discovers intelligent discourse they send out the alarm and all of their little minions come running to stamp it out! Honestly! It gets so exasperating!
Restored a lot of comments - none of wherearethejobsboner, considering they're banned for multiple accounts.
Backcountry is a conservative at a liberal site = BITTER!!!!!! That would be the simplest math problem of the day...but I'm sure you can make it equal 35...lmao.
I like how you pick just parts of my comment to spin it how you wanted it. If I have to make it any clearer I'd have to sit next to you and point my finger at every word so you could follow along :P
That should boast their ratings, they will spin this into Him being a hero.
boost, sorry
no whereare - I like the boasting - I rather thought it fit
I don't understand why in an allegedly free society so many comments are being collapsed.
You get to feeling like you're playing in the sandbox - someone gets miffed and instead of taking their shovel and going home -they collapse comments! I can understand comments that are derogatory toward someone or inflammatory,but to have so little faith in your own reasoning that you feel threatened by innocuous remarks is to be pitied.
I love how the last 3 paragraphs read like an obituary. How about some more details about what he did before you bury him?
He's toast
Well lets see they have no details....it is an investigation with no charges being filed as of yet...all they have is son of NYC commissioner and Fox news....
They did pretty good to mention that they kept in touch after the "alleged" attack. Score one for sort of reasonable reporting...
Only an idiot would file charges. A month later she comes forward. what evidense would she have? Her own accusation? What's that going to be worth in court as she stayed in touch. This sounds like a bunch of BS on her part.
R Scalzo...an idiot or someone with something to gain....They need to check her deposits.
statue of limitation on rape in NY is forever buddy. She can wait until she is 99 to file charge and still be taken serious.
The only reason this story was put on MSNBC was take a shot at FOX!
What kind of girl "keeps in touch" with her rapist? Sounds like BS to me.
van-1120261
The Statute of Limitations for Rape in New York use to be 5 years and in certain circumstances upped to
10 years, but, as of 2008 and because of DNA there is no Statute of Limitations in New York City
quark in law dna must be in police hands in 60 days or in a chain of custody. based on oct 8,2011 and
arrival at 13 pct on jan 24 the odds against use of dna is about 1bil to 1.
now since she kept in touch and has voice or data proof she has a chance. otherwise it becomes she said /
he said with the the claimant losing
Something is really fishy about this lady. I thinks she's lying or maybe exaggerating.
"Obama 2012"
Given the above, the woman's claim of rape sounds pretty dubious. I could be wrong, but it seems highly unlikely that a woman would "keep in touch" with her rapist. I anticipate that the content and tenor of those text messages will be the key component in determining the legitimacy of her accusation.
As for those suggesting that MSNBC is somehow inflating the "newsworthiness" of this story in order to attack Fox - it appears that it was actually first reported by The New York Times. In other words, I think sticking it to Fox is simply a bonus ;)
TF Mulderig- What kind of correspondence could she possibly have to back up her claim?
Texts:
Her - Hey Greg, remember that time you raped me in my office?
Him - who is this? what?
Her - you remember me... we met on the street.. the lawyer girl?
Him- ????! I don't know what you're talking about.
Her- We had drinks, went to my office... you forced yourself on me?
Him - stop texting me you psycho....
He is toast..whether he did it or not..not fair..but true...she sounds like a ho also..why can't a good looking man with a great career keep it in his pants? Is it THAT CRITICAL that you screw someone you just met over a drink?..Is he married? 2 seconds of "fun" will ruin your life...hopefully he did not pick up any STDs on top of ruining his career..people NEVER FORGET..everytime he walks in a room..they will think of the rape...he might be congenial but pretty STUPID in the emotional department!!!!
Is this the next episode of "BLUE BLOODS"?
It didn't say what kind of touch she kept with him. If it was "Hey baby." The judge should say "Bye baby." If it was "You A hole, how dare you blah blah blah." There are all manner of communication, not all of it friendly. There isn't enough information in this article to even slightly guess as to who is guilty of wrongdoing. She or he.
I no know, maybe, maybe yes, maybe no, we goona see.
The allegation seems weak, but I will say this, Greg Kelley is a nitwit. He makes the Talk Soup real nearly every week, very funny. Had no idea he was the Commissioners son. Literally one of the dumbest people on TV, but since it's a morning show, more entertaining then sad.
And is the right seriously suggesting MSNBC is going beyond because the guy works at a Fox affiliate. My god, I am seeing Clinton mentioned in a rape allegation story... And they wonder why they don't have a descent human being in the primaries, the lunatic wing will never allow it.
I'm not fan of the left either, but jesus at least they aren't rabid morons trolling website they claim to hate making ludicrous claims about everything, lay off the paint chips for a day or two, at least the ones with lead in them.
I probably shouldn't say this, but I will. They should not put the words "rape" and "probe" right next to each other in the same sentence.
Yes, I just went there.
I wish they had a picture of her, at least from the back. I know they don't want to show their face, because incase she's lying, then she can't do it again, everyone would know its her and they wouldn't even go out with her after that. But I would be able to tell if she got raped or not, just by looking at her back side. I would of made a good cop and judge. Yeah, she claims it happened Oct.8 and now its Jan. 26 the following year, makes it hard even for me to tell if she was raped or not.
This women is up to something. This just doesn't add up.
Now you libs can continue with your Fox bashing....sorry to interrupt with a thought re the ACTUAL story.
Without knowing all the facts you have all either convicted him or labeled her as a nut and/or a liar. Shame on you!
Rape is not a joke! Rape is a serious crime that, even when there is no physical injury, can leave emotional scarring.
ManFromNuntucket; Are you the man from Nuntucket, that had a...... well never mind, you'll know if your him. But thats a very good oberservation you made about their choice of words, they used in this article. I have to agree with you. Unless they are actually trying to specify a certain probing that may of occured during the rape, then thats impropper journalism. Good eye, Man From Nuntucket.
Hmmm... Yes, unwanted sex from any source is a terrible thing to experience. HOWEVER, this happened over three months ago, and it was not reported until last Tuesday. That stinks. If someone raped you, wouldn't you immediately report it to the police? I believe a normal person would do that. This alleged incident has all the bells and whistles of an attempt to legally extort money from the supposed perpetrator.
Ok, was she wearing a tight little spaghetti strap dress, with her breasts jiggling underneath it and her tight little caboose was outlined and hugged by the material of the dress and her legs shinning from the bathoils she uses, to make them gleam in a ever so faint of a light that just highlights them and also make her smell real pretty? Hmmm, I need to meet a women like that. I'm never going to meet one in the heroin infested valley, thats for sure. What was I saying? Never mind.
How does one collapse a stupid comment again?
No righties posting and the article has been out 26 minutes. If this was a story on Michele Obama, there would be 500 racist comments by now. Come on, you going to defend your BOY?
What's to defend? Did someone report a crime? Accusations must be confirmed. Ask Bill Clinton.
Yes. Sexual assault was reported. Sexual assault is a felony crime.
Some proof would be nce. So far I doubt there is any.
Where - the guy could have sacrificed his life saving babies, and you'd be on the attack. By the way, hate is corrosive.
Did we touch a nerve righties? LOL
Dude should have taken a page from the Lib handbook and just gone out and bought it.
Clotho
I think you missed a few steps in the process of conviction of the felony crime....Yes it was reported...yes there is an investigation...from the investigation they must find some evidence or a strong suspicion that the crime was committed...from there they either determine it was a crime or not...If not then there will never be another word written from MSNBC or NBC...if he is charged and arrested it will actually become news...If he is arrested then he must be adjudicated...only if he is found guilty will it become a felony crime...
Now from what I was able to find out....a false accusation of Rape comes with a 1-3 year sentence for perjury in New York.
I still say check her bank account to see if she was paid to fabricate.
No dont - that would be capitalism in action -conservative
Actually.......at that time of day the "righties" were probably working. You need a job......or a life. Not everyone is glued to their computer/MSNBC so they can be the first to make an ignorant comment. You win Dum-mass.
Anti-Lib - Take a break
@wherearethejobsboner
Huh? Why would "righties" be defending this guy? Did I miss something? No, YOU did. You missed the fact that this guy is an anchor on a local Fox broadcast station in no way affiliated with FoxNews. Let me ask you, if you saw an actual fox on the side of the road as you were driving along what do you do? Run it down because you think it has a different political viewpoint or just roll down your window and yell at it because you believe it's a racist?
@Katheryn Brandy
No that is not conservative republican. boning boys is conservative republican thing. damn.. thats harsh. but truth is truth right? Right? RIght?
i kid... i kid...
JH,
From what we know now, any mention of Bill Clinton's dalliances should also be accompanied by a mention of Newt Gingrich's extramarital affair that was occurring at the same time.
anti -lib that's funny you posted at 11:00 AM where you working you close minded punk . Go put FOX news on and get your dose of propaganda SO FAIR AND BALANCED hahahaha If you think your side is completetly right and the other side wrong then why pay attention at all Just believe what they say and forget thinking ,mabe you already have.
@ac-4058593
So, just out of curiosity, are you the pot or the kettle?
Why would "righties" be defending this guy? He's not a conservative, he's not even a republican. His dad was appointed by Democrats. Obama was even considering him for FBI director. Ray Kelly is registered as an independant.
Man talk about ignorant knee jerk reaction. You see a guy works for "Fox" and automatically assume he's a conservative pundit?
Wow - and I thought teabaggers were idiots.
sounds like a bunch of BS, why did she keep in touch with him if she was raped? If anything took place I think it was it was consentual and now she pissed off because it may not be going the way she thought it would. The police commissioner's son is a good look for a boyfriend??? I dont think it will hold up but her mission would have been accomplished as far as embarrassing him and his Father????
The biased left media is on the ropes and we shouldn't surprised to eventually find out this was a set up. It sort of looks that way.
A woman meets a man who is well known on the street takes him back to her OFFICE..(WHY?) For some naughty office fun with the secretary theme, eye glasses thing etc... does the dirty deed ... texts him "that was fun ... let's do it again sometime" ( I add for effect)
And then shows up at the Police station with her friend saying she was raped... that's the story. The first part sounds like it came right out of Penthouse forums (not that I have ((ever)) read that... ;) and the second part sounds just like the proverbial set up from a Hollywood cross between Law and Order SVU and "Looking For Mr. Goodbar" genre movie.
Siskel and Ebert give it 2 thumbs down...
See this is nuts. You report a crime like this right after it happens, not whenever it suits you. Was she waiting on a good hairday? Had it been reported right after it happened test can be made to see if its true or not. Like if it was me, sometimes I like to stick my finger in dark places and then she goes to the hospital and they check her dark place and it has my dna in it and they come check my finger and it has her dna on it and I'm guilty. I actually find a lot of women like that, so if I was raping a women with a hot caboose I probably would do it to her too and then what happens, I go to jail for rape. Its simple when you report it right after it happens, but not now.
To wherearethejobsboner:
There is absolutely nothng to "defend" on this man's behalf here from what I read in the article. The woman waited not days or weeks or even only ONE monthbut 3 months to report that she was "raped", and even proceeds to inform the police that they kept in contact through calls and text messages. I'd say the only person who needs to defend anything is this woman and her inconsistent claims! A true rape is a traumatic event for anybody woman or man (yes, I'm a woman recognizing men can be raped) and no one who has truly been a victim of rape would keep in contact with their attacker! I say press charges on her for filing a false claim!
@backcountry,
Always enjoy your comments. On target and sometimes like today they actually make me laugh out loud. Thx for that, lol.
@Kyot
A set up? Did I miss the part of the story that said the woman had been in a coma for the 3 months between the "rape" and her reporting it? Or are you just assuming it's the worst "set-up" ever conceived?
Raider-4158022
Thanks Raider. Sometimes the comments you read on these boards are so incredibly moronic you've just got to find some way to laugh at them.
van - I'm not touching that one with a ten foot pole! (especially since that's treading on thin ice in both camps!):~/
Just going by this story - and we only have a skeleton to work with here - the dad handled this very well,it doesn't sound like he was defensive,just said,"put it in writing". I'll await on further information about young Kelly,often these charges turn out to be a whole lot of complicated.(I just hope Kelly is not married) But on the other hand - Have we seen this before? Fox what do you do to this people -infect them with an antimorality virus?!(okay-that was my Faux rant -I feel so much better now)
Blaw Blaw Blaw..!!! Yawn..
are you saying that the left has a high moral fiber? No, I didn't think so.....you paint with a very broad brush. That would be like saying after clinton all democratic Presidents are womanizers and can't be trusted..rocks..glass houses, you know the drill?
watt - yes!Of course I am painting with a broad,unsubstantiated brush - it's a rant.Rants don't deal in complete facts. Calm down.Now -you might want to look at the brush you're using with some of your posts.
@Katheryn Brandy
That would be a MASSIVE understatement considering the article has absolutley NOTHING to do with FoxNews. Do you go off on a "broad, unsubstantiated" rant about FoxNews whenever there is a story about small bushy tailed canines as well?
Backcountry's quote from elsewhere applies here also....so I'm re-pasting it, lol.
Backcountry - I'm not fond of Fox News - but I agree with you about my going off on something that had nothing to do with the actual story. That's why I was ragging on myself. Come on. Ease up.
This is news because the accused is an anchor to a Fox affiliate? That's pretty lame even for MSNBC.
SI
Yeah - but we all read it,didn't we? Just like at Fox,tawdry works.
If you people hate Fox News so much why do you watch it???????????
I watch MSNBC because I like to hear how Stuptid People really are, Mr.Ed, Keith Olbermann, Al Sharpton, Maddow and last but not least, Chris Matthews. Kool Aid drinkers.
Turn it off if you don't like what you hear. Most of you don't watch it but your a bunch of Pete and Repete.
buckie - we're not over at fox posting -we're here. If you spend all that time watching all of those msn commentators,you'd have precious little time to spend watching Fox. You need to prioritize.
I'm like you buckieboy, I watch MSNBC and read their articles for the Entertainment Value. I'm just waiting for a College Course on Subliminal Liberal Media Influence; although that will probably never happen since there are few Conservative Colleges who would need to teach the subject properly.
This is news because the accused is an anchor to a Fox affiliate?
This is news because it's the son of the police commissioner. That fact that he works for Faux is a bonus.
@Darrel B.
Except for the of course for the fact that he doesn't work for FoxNews. But hey, don't let that stop you from spreading the hate.
Katheryn Brandy:
You really have issues...
Unfortunately they'll never be resolved in her lifetime.
This piece is from the AP , and is also on the FOX news site. MSNBC do not have sole rights to this story just to get back at FOX . FOX NEWS has the unique ability of being able to report biased news to the masses all on its own .
Lot of drunken boozehounds working at Fox.
Ok, how long is msnbs going to have this on their home headline page!?
Well, this will bring out all the Fox haters in force, as if Fox promotes this type of behavior in its' staff. And we don't even know if there is any validity to the accusation.
Now all their blonde bimbo's want him.
You sound a little sexists there. Those so-called "blonde bimbo's" are educated women.
There are jobs out there for educated Americans, I suggest you go try and find one. Good luck.
Well if a person happens to lean to the left, then this obviously means he is automatically guilty, should be have any and all of his freedoms taken away from him, and for good measure, turn over any and all monies, that he has earned through hard work, to the government for dispersal to those that cannot afford their own Starbucks coffee.
I'm retired at 53 thank you very much, NEXT
That explains a lot
When you say retired does that mean one the the Wal-Mart greeters that just got laid off and now you can suck up your 99+ weeks of unemployment?
where
Retired at 53? How's that public sector retirement working out? Are you double dipping like most? By the way, what are "imbred jebs", (your post 1.9)?
I'm also retired, but I'm 57 now and went on retirement when I was 55. I refuse to work now. I didn't know, I thought it was 55 and then when I told them I retired they told me I had to wait til I was 65. So I told them theres a good chance I'll never make it to 65 and they told me tuff luck. So I figure what the heck, why not retire anyhow and I did. I wasn't about to go begging for my job back, I hated my boss anyhow. So thats how it goes for me now. I'm done for. I worked enough in my lifetime, I worked enough for two lifetimes. Work can kill you. I don't want to find out, thats for sure.
Police commissioners son indicated in sexual assault. No arrests that's an oxymoron.
Indicated and Indicted are different words with different meanings. It's not an oxymoron, you just read poorly.
at least it was a woman this guy was messing around with...we've certainly had enough from the party of family values for a lifetime
I detest Fox, but there's not much in this report to substantiate a crime. Apparently some woman with a boyfriend had some type of contact with this guy. For all anyone knows she got caught boinking a "celebrity" and her boyfriend got all pissy. I can relate to a degree. I had some jackass guy at an office try to file a sexual harassment suit against me FOR a former female employee of mine whom I no longer got along with and argued frequently. He figured he could score some points with her and maybe get lucky since she slept around a lot (but not with me - strictly business). They were bogus charges and she even acknowledged that, but that could have been a real bad situation for me if they conspired to lie. I'll withold judgment on this guy until more is known.
Mike - I agree - as much as it is great fun to have a go at an employee of Faux, these things are often something entirely different than they appear at first blush.While I am a big proponent for strong enforcement of sexual harassment charges (yeah,another one of those women's libbers)- on the other side, accusations of any kind,but particularly accusations regarding moral character can ruin lives,just with the accusation. If the accusation proves unfounded - I hope counter charges are filed.
You guys are right.
Thank God we've never had a president accused of any sort of thing like that.. LMAO...
Because women libbers would have demanded his resignation if several women made accusations.
Not likely.
Agree. I think the guy is an a$$, but the whole rape story is questionable.
these posts and responses are of the sane variety, not like some of the "lefties vs. righties" nonsense I was reading above. Thank you Mike, and Katheryn.--S-- (oh, an btw., 'righthinker'as in CORRECT thinking, NOT Rightwing thinking) LOL
I do not know of any sitting president (from either side of the aisle) who has been accused of rape. That's what this man was accused of -- whether he is guilty or not. Rape and sexual harassment are two totally different acts and two totally different crimes. Sexual harassment may lead to rape and rape may be followed by sexual harassment, but they are still not the same thing. And a consensual sexual relationship between two adults of the age on consent -- no matter how ill-advised or potentially tawdry -- does not count as either. Do not confuse or conflate these three issues -- especially if you are trying to make an unrelated political point.
You guys need to be at the top of the thread. The fishy part of the story came from two places. Some boyfriend making the accusation in public - not to a police department by the alleged victim. Secondly, that the alleged victim and alleged accused continued talking in texts and phone calls after the incident.
They wound up at her office *after* drinks at a bar. This sounds all kinds of she had a fling, boyfriend found out and is trying to cash in on the publicity and save his pride to boot.
Well there ya go. Thanks Jason.
saddened, sexual harrassment charges against that particular president were from Paula Jones....nothing consensual about her relationship with Clinton at all. Sexual harrassment charges in the work place can also be brought against a person in a position of power having consensual sex with someone in a position of less power, (a circumstance that applies to Lewinsky and why it was used in the sexual harrassment investigation). I liked Clinton as a president. I just wish he had admitted "Yeah, I did it. Now let's move on and run the country".
Why thank you Steven.
Saddened - you made me think.
Jason - I noticed once people start interposting comments,they get all out of chronological order -Mike and I actually posted when the story first broke.
@Mike N-366459
Oh come on, you can't tell me there isn't something on Fox you enjoy watching. The Simpsons, Family Guy, they're both good shows? How about Glee, that's a farily liberal and gets good ratings. Or were you referring to the other Fox channel, you know, the one they are NOT talking about in this article?
@ Backcountry........referring to their news division. I like Family Guy, House......dat's about it. Can't stand Joe Buck calling football games and their pre-game show is pathetic compared to CBS.
Sparkly, read my post again, if you please. The post I was responding to had suggested a president was accused of rape. Paula Jones never claimed rape. My point was, the two crimes are not the same -- not that Clinton was never accused of sexual harassment. My point still stands that no sitting president has ever been accused of rape (that I am aware of).
Conflating rape and sexual harassment for any reason - let alone for the purpose of maligning a political rival - is misleading at best and dangerous and dishonest at worst.
Y'all must not have read the whole article. Second or third paragraph from the bottom states he was with Fox News Channel from 2002-2007 and was their White House correspondent. For kicks, I checked out his bio on Wikipedia (a good enough source for this trivial info) and it says he was also a host of Fox and Friends. He's a nationally-known figure; that's why it's national news.
saddened...perhaps YOU should read your post again..this is the part of your post I was referring to....
"And a consensual sexual relationship between two adults of the age on consent -- no matter how ill-advised or potentially tawdry -- does not count as either."
Mike N-366459
Except its NOT their news division. It's a completely separate entity. Fox broadcast station has their own news programing; FoxNews may be owned by the same person but other than that they are completely unrelated. Murdoch owns a whole slew of media companies do you "detest" them all?
Saddened - google Juanita Broaddrick.
I'm not saying I buy her story. Just pointing out that indeed Clinton was accused of RAPE not just sexual harrassment.
You know a good right-winger spouting the need for "traditional" values must be innocent. Otherwaise he would be a big lying hypocrit. Same for Nooot
You Lib's make me laugh . At least it was a women, Barney Franks not only likes giving it to us in the Rear, He loves it himself. No wonder Liberals love the democrats, They like it also.
buckeiboy...that was just rude. I don't like Barney AT ALL, but his sexual preference has nothing to do with his inability to do his job.
Grampa....I also recall Clinton's main talking point during his second run for the presidency was family values. Hypocrisy runs in both parties, be it family values, going after the rich (google John Kerry's luxury tax on yacht buyers in the US and then google exactly where he bought his yacht), environmental issues (google Ted Kennedy's stand on alternative energy sources and then google his fight against it when they wanted to put it in HIS backyard). Then there is, of course, both parties going after Martha Stewart for insider trading, while they all got rich doing exactly that because it was allowed for them to do so. The list goes on and on.
He works for a local affiliate of Fox. Anyone who watches the morning show in NYC knows Greg Kelly is not a right winger. He rarely gets political but certainly shows a leftward leaning on certain subjects when he injects his own opinion.
What is our society coming to when SIX people gave buckie's post a "thumbs up"? Makes me want to rethink my political persuasion as a republican. It's truly getting a bit embarassing.
Did I read that right, the New York City Police Commish's son works for Fox? That may explain the extremely brutal treatment of the OWS movement by the NYPD.
@deprogrammer
No, you didn't. If you had read more than the headline you'd have realized the guy works for the Fox broadcast station not FoxNews.
The local Fox affiliate I believe. He does the morning show for NY.
I don,t know about NY but in GA its up to the Grand Jury
One of the Republican presidential hopehopes is an admitted adulterer and was thrown out if his leadership job in Congress by his own party. Why then is it difficult to imagine a public personality fooling around and taking it a bit too far?
He wasn't thrown out for sexual misconduct. "The ethics charges reportedly had their origins in a complaint filed against Gingrich in September of 1994 by then-Rep. Ben Jones, D-Ga., who was running against Gingrich for office. Among the allegations: That the speaker received inappropriate gifts and had received improper contributions from GOPAC, a political action committee he had once been in charge of."
So now the law has been changed and all the cadidates are taking millions from the PACs. Now back to "BJ" Bill Clinton......lying to congress...among other things. I'll bet you like ol' Bill.
Newt wasn't thrown out for sexual misconduct, because the GOP doesn't really mind that, regardless of what they say about family values. He admitted he had an affiar with Calistal for 6 years before he asked him wife for an open marriage. If a six year affair isn't sexual misconduct, I don't know what is.
And the fact that pacs are legal now has nothing to do with him taking contributions when they were illigal. He broke the law. Oh yeah, that's what I want for president............someone who should be in jail. Yeah, right.
I do like old Bill, and so did the rest of the free world. They hated Bushie, and they'd hate Newt too if he got in.
I guess she invited him back to her office to show him her paperclip collection? I am a woman...but this seems bogus. She is a loose woman who got caught by her boyfriend and now wants to play the victim. Why report it 3 months later? Why continue to communicate with someone you say attacked you? Hopefully for Mr. Kelly this goes away. The facts dont add up. Ladies...use your head. Now this woman wants to ruin the moral character of another. And I hope he files counter charges. This harrassment crap is getting a bit old, along with these brutal feminists. Gloria Allred is probably on her way to this womans house.
If he doesn't call, he's just not that into you.
She has a boyfriend, met an attractive man, had a "quickie," contracted herpes, infected boyfriend, claims she was raped?
she wanted it, and now she feels guilty, so she has to blame someone.
Went back to her office??? After drinks????? Something's not right.
She wanted to show him her....paperclips.
Yeah... because in your office is the ideal place to carry on an illicit affair with a stranger. (sarcasm) If she had taken to him to a hotel after drinks I might concede you have a strong argument. As it is, there are other possible explanations. Let this play out in the courts where it belongs.
Um, just for the record, I've picked up a chick who took me to her office, a law firm, and we screwed like rabbits on the floor in front of the desk of her boss, then hosed ourselves down in the giant bathtub he had in the suite. Hottest night ever. No, actually, I've had hotter...
Saddened - It will never go that far. Read the story. If perhaps you still don't understand - Go back to school really.
Let me see if I understand this...they had drinks and went to her office, a "rape" occurred and they stayed in touch by phone and text and the "crime" went unreported from October 8th until January 24th?? So once the boyfriend found out about the rape....did it say whether she was the raper or the rapee..then all hell broke loose? I smell a fish...or maybe someone just has an STD. Oh, he was an "anchor" at a local station that just happened to be a Fox affiliate. Sounds like a neighborhood story to me.
The negative comments are amazing, but not surprising. First, why is Greg’s name reported, but not that of the accuser? This happened in early October, Greg and his accuser continued to remain in touch, but she only just reported the accused act this past Tuesday. So before jumping all over a war veteran and a news network, check your facts. This has all been reported (no not by FOX), but the NBC story above decided to leave these facts out tempting people to make the comments they have. This is a huge problem with the irresponsible reporting in the media today. NBC is forming your opinion with incomplete information rather than providing all the facts and letting you decide.
right on Tom. The disrespect for this veteran is jaw dropping.
Ditto !!!
Yes, the story was very light on facts, but big on supposition. I also have strong concerns about the 3-month lapse between event and filing.
Negative comments?? The majority of comments I have read are indeed extremely negative -- against the accuser. People on here are ready to throw her to the wolves as a loose woman and a liar without hearing another word about it. Get a grip.
TomIII,
The reason the "victims" name wasn't released is because of NY's "Rape Shield" laws. It is illegal for any media or "news" outlet to release or publish any information about "victims" of "Special Victim Unit" crimes. I.E. they automatically go to jail, if they do. They are tauted by feminists as an encouragement for these "victims" to report incidents to police. Perfectly OK for them to publish unsupported allegations though.
It sort of goes along with that liberal, feminist "doctrine" of "Women are free to have sex with whomever she wants whenever she wants, BUT if she EVER feels "guilty about it", or "that maybe she REALLY didn't want to", or "did at the time, but changed her mind after the fact", or "didn't want to, but didn't say so at the time", THEN it was "Rape". Even if they are still "friends". It is a softening of the Andrea Dworking mantra that "ALL heterosexual sex is RAPE."
This is not an inditment of real victims of sexual assault. It just doesn't sound like this women is one. She showed up with her sister?? Could it be that her sister is a NOW activist and talked her into it??
I always keep in touch with people by phone and text after they rape me
Exactly! Did no one else seem to pick up on that?
While I find her story a little hard to believe, there are a few reasons why she might have kept in touch with him. Maybe he was apologizing and she kept the text for evidence.
Usually in a "date" rape scenario, the man doesn't think he did anything wrong. Being the son of a commissioner, she might have felt she wouldn't be believed -- her word against his, and she might have let it go until his texts got threatening.
We need a few more facts, other than his employment at Fox, before we convict him.
HeyLookItsMe:
The left can't see the truth!
Something is not right with this picture!!
How many $$$ did the boyfriend think they could score?
I agree with shannon-1504116. Sounds like she got caught cheating and is trying to worm her way out of it.
Hey - thanks. The disrespect for this veteran is incredible. Looks like the boyfriend was looking to make some $$$...and the girlfriend was trying to wiggle wer way out of getting caught cheating.....
NO MEANS NO!! I don't care what happened, where they had drinks or where they went> If a woman says NO! end of story.
Sure lala...lalaland. She invited him back to her office for......then kept in touch with him...then the boyfriend caught her...you must be good friends with the man hating movement. Read the facts. We all know what no means..but if you're attacked do you wait three months to report it and continue to communicate with this person? This makes it look bad for all the real reports of attacks out there...And many innocent people who have been accused of attacking someone when the loose goose got caught cheating......get out of lalaland and get back to America.....
Yes, No means No! unless you wait until three month after the act to say it. Sounds like he said no to her for a round 2 and she just couldn't accept it. Hell has no fury like a woman scorned!
I agree that "No means no," but what if she was dressed like she wanted it? That's the big piece to the puzzle. Suppose she was like, "No, Greg, don't assault all up on me." And Greg was like, "But, you're wearing a denim skirt and tennis shoes." And then she was like, "Yeah, I suppose. Okay, then. But I'm not too keen on this." That's probably how it went down. Kind of a gray area. It's still beyond wrong if what is alleged actually happened. But if I were to ever meet someone on the street and they wanted to go out for drinks and bring me back to their place of business after hours, I'd be thinking that I'm going to tap that, too. Especially if it was a chick.
I agree Stanley
Were you there? Did you hear her say no? Did she say no? So far this is merely she said, he said, and nothing else.
am I reading this right. jan 24 tuesday reported the crime but the crime was Oct 8. they kept in touch. maybe not close enough for her. wipe your lips and go to the next one.