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A view showing the Occupy DC encampment in McPherson Square in Washington, DC, on January 22, 2012.
Federal park authorities in the nation's capital told Occupy protesters at two sites on Friday that they will begin enforcing park rules that prohibit camping -- a move seen by the activists as a "slow creep" aimed at whittling down their demonstration in Washington, DC.
The National Park Service said in a flier that starting Monday at noon it will begin to enforce regulations prohibiting camping and the use of temporary structures for camping. Individual violators may be subject to arrest and their property subject to seizure as evidence, the flier said.
Three officers will be on hand to monitor the situation, try to get protesters to comply and make arrests or seizures as needed, Carol Johnson, a NPS spokeswoman, told msnbc.com. Compliance entails removing all camping materials and leaving one side of all temporary structures open.
“People can be there 24 hours a day, but they can’t live there, they can’t sleep there,” Johnson said. “This has been something in the works for some time. I mean what we’ve been trying to do is use measured and progressive means to get people into compliance.”
“We still do back the First Amendment, and it is their right. It is not their right to camp. And ... we would, you know, support them if they came into compliance and they had a vigil and they had tents that were there for logistical or symbolic purposes,” she added. "They can occupy as a vigil but not camping."
More than 80 arrests have occurred at the two sites, including for public urination, drunkenness, assault and drug use, she noted.
Many of the Occupy camps were closed across the country last fall and early winter, and the sites in the nation's capital were two of the bigger outfits remaining. Occupy Wall Street, which was evicted in mid-November, holds its general assemblies in their former camp site, while other group meetings are held elsewhere.
Justin Jacoby Smith, a 25-year-old activist with OccupyKSt, said that the protesters were conducting a 24-hour vigil in line with the NPS use guidelines for the site and that he thought people were "incorrectly" reading the NPS moves as an eviction notice.
"I don’t think that’s what we’re dealing with here. I think what we’re seeing from the park police is a sort of very slow creep of their enforcement of this so-called no-camping rule," he said, adding that he thought the enforcement was also “just another part of that broader strategy of trying to whittle down the (protester) numbers slowly.”
The Park Service noted that two "compliant" 24-hour First Amendment vigils have been running in Lafayette Park and near the Vietnam Veterans Memorial since the early 1980s. Johnson said they were "very small" vigils.
The House Oversight and Government Reform Subcommittee held a hearing on Tuesday about the McPherson Square encampment.
"Late is better than never," Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., chairman of the subcommittee on the District of Columbia, said in a statement after learning of the park service notice. "Lady Justice is blindfolded for a reason: so as not to see who is in front of her. I continue to wonder whether others who are 'camping' in national parks would have been afforded a 100-day grace period before the law was enforced."
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If two "compliant" occupations have been going since the 80s, obviously "compliance" doesn't get the job done... I'm curious, what will the park service do when there are 1,000,000 people who show up in the spring?
Ridiculous, they had better quit ahead, we are approaching "End of patience" day.
Pull the cops out of there and let the citizenry handle it.
Want to see them disperse quickly? Simply schedule a "personal responsibillity" rally on the premises, where speakers come in and talk about how to get a job and carry your own freight, without any government assistance; might bring in some recruiters for companies that are hiring, too. My bet is that the losers would disappear faster than libs at a Tea Party rally.
Finally no more rats.
Quit crying alan. You're ALWAYS crying!
Why is it that the liberal protests always cause vandalism, inconvenience the innocent, cause expensive clean-ups and even involve felonies? They call it civil disobedience but it is really nothing but selfish criminal activity. Meanwhile the TEA Party has a peaceful demonstration that doesn't harm innocents or cause massive expenditures for clean-up, and they are the ones that the the media hypes as evil and corrupt?
And while this Occupy movement has no stated goals and has accomplished nothing, the TEA Party is changing Washington - one House cleaned up in 2010 and the the other two (Senate and White House) to be accomplished in 2012. It is no wonder the left fears them so and thus maligns them constatntly.
What "job" is that - I still am wondering what the occupy movement is about.
How much dose it cost to get Phish to do a weekend concert. If you build it, they will come.
Occupy is exactly what happens when nobody hosts weekend music festivals in the winter. Just wait till they start back up and these punks try to camp there indefinitely.
Camping?
Smoke weed?
Read Marx?
oskar-1391552===I think they are trying out some camping equipment. Other than that they have no idea. If you ask them what they want the list is long and goes all the way back to when the British controlled the Colonies. So don't ask them it's a very long story.
I love the propoganda about crime at or in the camp sites. So with your propoganda logic crime didnt exist before there was protesters camping in the streets. Seriously where the @!$%# do you live in lala propoganda land. People like you dont deserve the time of educated unbrainwashed freethinkers as myself. Stop getting in the way of progress trying to dumb down ignorant people. You make me seriously want to put my foot up your ass. You are really helping America arent you spitting nonsense left and right like you know something. Usually I don't talk @!$%# to people but seriously you are braindead.
ECO,
Do you really believe there will be one million "Occupiers" in the spring or is this wishfull thinking? You couldn't more than several of hundred for your revamped new and improved 2012 march on congress this month.
Sammy727 banned for death trolling DC Occupiers. No, thanks.
How about an occupy a job movement. Oh wait they don't want those jobs as they actually require you to work and their liberal arts degree means nothing to the employer.
Occupiers! There is no shame in spending the winter indoors. Regroup and plan your occupy movements beginning in the spring through October for next year. Also, would be nice to take some time to organize, discipline your members, and come up with a clear united message. Show Americans you can agree on something together, and appoint someone to speak for you. You can show up congress, by agreeing on a common set of ideas.
It does not surprise me that the Occupy Wall Street crowd is disorganized. It only affirms my belief that this is not an organized uprising. Many of these people have lost their jobs, pensions, savings, health insurance and so forth. They come and go, as their resources are used up. They all have a different take on why this has happened to them, but the bottom line is - they feel that the promise of America to those who work hard and live "good" lives, has been stolen from them. They would be right!
A recent right wing radio show said that "fairness" is just an excuse for the government to be involved in people's lives. Baloney. Fairness is a government which seeks for the unalienable and God given rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness - to be given to all the citizens of it's nation. Not just the top 1%.
How about an occupy a job movement. Oh wait they don't want those jobs as they actually require you to work and their liberal arts degree means nothing to the employer.
If you kept up on current events, which it appears you do not, you would know that for every job opening in this country there are 4 job seekers. So it is not as simple as just getting a job. The lack of jobs are hardly the only thing they are protesting. But you wouldn't know that since you lack an ability to research independently.
Guess you all missed who is the largest Welfare and food-stamp recipients try Republicans .... LMAO
proof before you make such a ridiculous claim, sir.Otherwise it is just your (wrong) opinion.
To all of you brain-dead losers out there that think that the occupy movement is made of jobless, stoners, that want nothing but a hand-out. I am an OWS activist and supporter. I also work a full-time job as a house painter and am a full time law school student. The OWS is comprised of workers, union members, people displaced because their job was shipped over seas, teachers, students, the list goes on and on. And yes, there will be, most likely, more than a million occupying D.C. by this summer if the government doesn't get out of bed with the corporate/banking system in America. (That's for the dolts that keep asking," What exactly is the movement about any way", Do you live under a frigging rock or do you only glean your knowledge of the nation and world from Faux Noose? Hope that I was able to clarify what is going on for the uninformed. (By the way, if it weren't for actions like this one, we would still be in Vietnam. I know, I also protested that action.)
Face it, the Occupy move is over. It had no direction and ended up being homeless camps or people with nothing else to do. The rest of us are actually working to improve the economy, not sleeping in tents. Here the Occupy movements runs around like rabid squirrels. First they protest outside a bank, then they occupy a gas station because the city constables are trying to collect on a loan the gas station stopped paying on, then they go and stand in front of a house where the owner stopped paying his mortgage 3 years ago and GEE is getting evicted. Maybe at some point, these OCCUPIERS will learn also that a loan is a loan. You make the contract, stupid or not and you hold the consequences for not paying it. Yes I live in an underwater house. But I bought it with a 30 year fixed, 20% down. I pay my debts because I signed for them. The banks, investors, etc may have caused the problem, but that is not an excuse to say, gee they jumped off the cliff, so I can too.
The occupiers in Tucson are about the same. I drove by one Saturday morning around 9:00 and there wasn't a single person up.....guess they were sleeping off the occupy party from the night before.
parents think they at college.
Who said the occupiers where the American spring. This is the collapse of the occupiers they are the 1 %.
I would consider the msnbc crowd to be fairly liberal, but judging by the majority of anti-Occupy posts I've been reading here since the movement started, I'd say no one much supports these campers, not even the people they're purporting to respresent. That tells me something (something I'm pretty sure they wouldn't want to hear).
Exactly - they are the 1%
You brainwashed compliant monkeys are the 5% who lost your will to think for yourself years ago like you would do anything to help America we have seen what you have done to this country with your garbage politics over the past 30 years. You wont be happy till they put you in the gas chamber and kill you. Because of people like the protesters maybe you wont have to see that day. I already know how you dumb@!$%#s think blame the poor the immigrants the college kids who are in debt but let the corporations continue the downfall of our nation. wake the @!$%# up If you cant hear the cries of the poor you will die the 2nd death. If you continue to only support the rich you will die the 2nd death. Educate yourself and stop dumbing yourself down to garbage spoon fed media propoganda. The nazis brainwashed their full society to blame the poor the have nots the different. We are facing the same enemy but this time they hide behind their laws and the politics. We do have a brain and you cant force your shill garbage on us.
Gamer I think your meds have worn off........you're getting weird again.
Columbia University is giving them college credit for being there. Doesn't that make you wish you could afford to send your kid to that Ivy League campus? And the fact is that most all the "journalists" at the New York Times and the big three networks matriculated at Columbia University!
Gamer - get a job so that your mommy doesn't have to feed you and change your underclothes!
gamer4life: So I'm a "brainwashed compliant monkey" and a "dumb@!$%#," yet I owe nothing on my house, my car, my credit card, and live comfortably without ever asking for govt assistance. Meanwhile, these campers are trashing public spaces, have yet to propose any course of action to address their perceived grievances, apparently have no jobs and seem to contribute nothing to society, and yet I'm the one who can't see?
I'm not saying there don't need to be some banking and corporate reforms, but this Occupy rubbish accomplishes nothing.
Gamer that diatribe that you wrote only proves why very few support you.
I know it's wrong but I LOLd when I read gamer4life's post.
soazdan,
Your comment reminds me of a comment made by one of the "occupiers" that was out to protest the "Wall Street" elite. He said he usually arrived at about 9:00AM and went home at around 5:00PM since he didn't camp but he wanted the "Fat Cats" to see him. After doing this for a couple of weeks and never seeing any of the "Fat Cats" he realized that they always arrived long before he did and worked long after he left. He was somehow amazed that people actually have to work for a living and the more money they make, the more they actually work.
gamer,
Tell you what, when occupy stops standing for larger government and greater government intrusion into my every day life and greater dictation of what I can or can't do or how much money I should be allowed to earn then I'll listen to them. Until then, the whole damn lot of them can go and piss on themselves. Now, go back to playing with your XBOX because you clearly haven't got a clue.
A gamer is not someone takes seriously, unless your idea of a genius involves a guy that still lives in his mom's basement, and thinks he's gay because no girl in their right mind would touch him with a 10 ft. pole.
ag99 THe corporations are trashing America but you think a street is more important then 99% of the population wake up shill. You spout the same nonsense about about how you want someone to fix the mistake but you would rather live with the continued downfall of our country just because you are getting paid by the same companies taking advantage of everyone. You are right i believe too peacful protest accomplish nothing and never have. It only take action but trust me thats the last resort is taking action. Is that what you want it to come down to or would you rather have it done peacfully. Keep trashing the poor and giving to the rich that will be your choice and you will have to pay for it not me. I have not once heard one protester ask for assistance or what they dont deserve in fact the only people i have seen get handouts are big business and CEO who even rape their stockholders and leave the company as soon as its about to go under laughing all the way to the bank. I love the propoganda that the protesters in the street need to fix the situation and not the people sitting in govt allowing our country to fall apart. Wake the @!$%# up. The only reason big companies are productive is because they steal the real talent of our country through crooked contracts that people are forced to sign to work for them. But you probably think its the people who dl copyright material. Blame the poor the different the "illegal" but not the real problem. get the hell outt here. Nazi propoganda bs
gamer,
you should be happy the police are there to protect the "Occupiers", reading these posts and others it looks like there are plenty of people who would like nothing better than to play "Wack a Mole" with you protesters when you stick your heads out of your pathetic dwellings.
gamer4life, #2.6- EXCELLENT. GAVE YOU A VOTE, TOO! Why isn't this issue up before a Judge? Being given a deadline to comply to Violation and Infringement of your acknowledged, albeit " conveniently" misinterpreted Right? Lady Justice belongs to the Juducial Branch, not the legislative. She's blindfolded to feel the weight, instead of judge by looks. Some of the biggest problems we have today are because of the constant running to the Legislative instead of Judicial. The Law is already there. Like Insider Trading for Congress People. THE LAW IS ALREADY THERE. Insider trading is a No-No. We don't need Congress to write a new, different or more convenient and lenient one for themselves! They are immune from arrest, only, not the crime, while serving in office; but are fair game after they leave office. Government Oversight "Committee" of the Legislative is not The Court, of the Judicial. It is out of their jurisdiction and a blatant abuse of power to give Federal Authorities permission to blatantly violate and infringe Rights.
They can be at the park as long as they want they just cant camp. That is not violating their rights.
Wow, I really really hate allot of you posters here. You must have let your mommy pay for your college or must have inherited a business, home, or wealth, but yet you posters claim that you have earned it all. More like hand-me-downs just like the crooked banks took hand-me-downs and claim it is Capitalism. You don't see the whats going on, then you are part of the problem. Ignorance is bliss they say.
And for those that claim the poor live with mommies, you truly are showing your bliss. Most likely you posters were the ones sucking cash off mommy and daddy during college, while the poor have no rich parents to send them off to school and train for a better job.
Screw it. This whole thing is messed up.
knowsavage,
To quote another poster, just because we think you are a sh1tb#g does not mean we hate YOU.
To DMCMILLAN obviously you have no clue about games period. They are about to take over the #1 spot in the entertainment industry. But because my name says gamer its not because i only play video games. I am an artist I do 3d art 2d art play games sometimes play sports too. Im also trying to not get hired by the game industry but make my own games I do believe in hard work pays off I am not in the street protesting but i will never put any blame on the poor ever. When I know where the real problems are coming from, instead of putting my faith in the propoganda machine. Sparky: I dont know where you get your opinions and you have the right to them but i believe you dont know what the hell you are talking about. I have never heard one occupier say they want to steal your job or be in control they only want to be able to work and take care of their family and have what is needed to survive. If you cant open your eyes to that simple fact you never will.
I may have LOLd at gamer4life's passionate posting, but honestly I think I felt a little sorry for knowsavage after his. I'd give you my history to prove I don't fall in those categories that you described, but frankly I don't feel the need to prove my "poorness" credentials to you to have the right to post my opinion.
And gamer4life, good luck making something from scratch, if you pull it off I look foward to seeing it in action.
gamer,
There have been plenty of posts on plenty of websites from Occupy protesters that they do want control, they may be the fringe portion of the movement but they are out there and they claim to speak for Occupy.
gamer4life: It's hard to take someone seriously who is so rude and disrespectful. If you want anyone to actually listen to what you have to say, you need to learn some manners. As far as I'm concerned, it's useless trying to talk to you.
Do you even know what most millionaires are? most paid for their own college, most never inherited more than 10,000, Most have been married to the same woman for 30 years or more, most never paid more than 30K for a vehicle, and most are over 55. So yes they are self made and earned it.
Auto 101,
Sure! And iraq had weapons of mass destruction. 33 degress MF! Go home a figure it out.
auto 101. # 2.18- They are not camping. They are tangibly demonstrating and are messengers of their own "Free Speech". The Receivers of their message obviously haven't received their message yet because 1% is still "ruling" 99% in a Totalitarian manner atop a Free Self-governing Democracy. And it's not okay. And todays actions of Infringing, by threatening and intimidating and trying to coerce them into 1% compliance with and to having their Free Speech and Assembly Rights Infringed to be Violated IS NOT OKAY EITHER. "Camping" is a part of the continuum of their message (speech). Whoever came up with the order to force them to change their speech to some kind of approved 1% compliance that the 1% Authority can self-fulfillingly call a "vigil", instead, needs to be brought up in front of a Judge and provide tangible basis and showing of that basis for these assertions that are being made in order to carry out actions against the Demonstrators or face the consequences of any actions taken without Court (Judicial) approval!
The level of abusive contempt, harassment, degradation, including much on just a lot of posts here today and unlawful Infringement and Violation to this movement, since it began, has been horrendous and the Court needs to put a STOP to it.
Did you know the number one vehicle a millionaire drives is an F-150?
They are not denied the right to assemble there just not sleep.
Please tell me what does sleeping in a tent have to do with the wealth gap?
Sleeping in a tent is not speech. it's camping.
Auto 101, #2.28- "Camping" is in quotes to emphasize that "camping" is what the 1% Totalitarians are conveniently misinterpreting to call it in order to isolate it to be misinterpreted to be other than the "moot" action that it is, in relation to context of the whole; to then [with intent] alienate that single component to [with intent] infringe and violate to [with intent] shut down to eradicate the whole. (the message/speech) Snuff out their message and force them to change it to a message, no longer of their own but to being of the 1%'s choosing, liking and approval.(period)
Begging a question, you tell me what you think sleeping in a tent could possibly have to do with the wealth gap? :)
Thanks for keeping it going. THIS REALLY NEEDS TO BE IN A COURT! I'll check back again.
And just quickly, I forgot, "camping" is a recreational activity. Demonstrating Direct Democracy, as the foundational basis of this very Country to the Supreme acme of FREE SPEECH is a legtimate and serious matter, not just recreationally "fun and games" or "camping"; and purposefully [with intent] Violating American Citizens Rights by the ones who absolutely should be more than aware of its "wrongfulness" IS A SERIOUS MATTER, ALSO! And needs to be respected and treated as such.
knowsavage
Can you explain this???
Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.
Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.
Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.
http://articles.cnn.com/1998-12-16/politics/1998_12_16_transcripts_clinton_1_saddam-hussein-unscom-iraq-strike?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS
Rhee,
They can be there 24/7 they can get their message out they can have their signs bang their drums have their chants just not sleep there. they can rotate people there since they must do it since over 70% of them have jobs they must leave the sight to go to work.
So you would support me if I went to you home with a maga phone and banged drums 24/7 and slept in a tent on the side walk in front of your home you would be fine with it because it is my right in the Constitution. And you have no say because I should have the right to protest you if I fell like it where ever you are.
It was never enough for occupiers to simply "plop down" and take up space and make noise....I totally agree with there points, BUT! you cannot simply set up encampments and hope everyone will rally around your cause....that is not how things get accomplished in this country or any country.
The entire occupy movement failed to 1) organize 2) find officials that agreed with them and backed them 3) prove their points to those officials 4) prove their points with the American people.
I still think they can do this....but, time grows short and so does everyones patience....
gamer4life, go back to the usual:
You're suspended for a week for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
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gtouch, Watermoon, knowsavage, second part of that rule:
You're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
Oh look. Once every three monts a law is applied to a liberal.
Huh. I thought laws were reserved for enemies of the state. You know, Republicans.
How pitiful is that camp, eh? I wonder if they truly believe they are accomplishing anything.
Oh look. Once every three monts a law is applied to a liberal.
Huh. I thought laws were reserved for enemies of the state. You know, Republicans.
How pitiful is that camp, eh? I wonder if they truly believe they are accomplishing anything.
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A lot of those people ARE probably homeless.
They are not homeless they are students missing school. They are the usefull idiots.
Students missing school? You saying Mommy and Daddy are paying for these morons tuition and they dont even think its important enough to attend? No wonder they will be unemployed. Someone is trying to give them an education so they can get a job but they would rather go camping.
left-handed
Are you saying that the OWS crowd's principles are only good during the Spring and Summer??
left handed
Yea, we're really worried about a bunch of smelly unemployed walking health hazards.
How many other cities still have these encampments?
Philadelphia got rid of theirs after the city offered to move them to an alternate space and the Occupiers rejected the offer. And you'r right, many were homeless or out-of-staters. I havent seen or heard any activity from them for over a month.
...and, the ones who aren't, are probably worthless!
You mean the ones that were not torn down by law enforcement? Who knows. The protest still continues though, even if the people are not out on the streets declaring they are part of OWS. I suspect they will be back out in April-ish when things start to thaw out a bit.
Goewil,
I guess the world only needs changing when 70 degrees and sunny huh? Nice commitment.
Like I said Mac, you do not have to be out on the streets to be protesting. My proof is what happened on January 18th. Hardly anyone was on the streets that day protesting but over 115,000 websites went black and Congress took a bat to the head and realized they were wrong, for once in a very long while.
Protests occur over many different mediums, not just the streets. You do sound like a Republican though, dunno if you are or not but you sound like one, with the implied double talk.
Many Repubs are probably saying "Get off the streets blah blah blah," and now that they are they are saying "See not a real protest, there is no one out with signs."
You see this all the time with their bashing of the President as well. Any time he takes a Republican stance on a topic that they normally would be cheering for they call it partisan pandering.
So - If am against something - and protest about it- I can live rent free as long as I am on public property. Think I am going to protest the National Parks in Colorado this summer.
This country is becoming a bunch of wimps. We are too afraid of enforcing "no camping " in public parks. unless of course it's just a couple of homeless derelicts.
The caveat is that you have to be against something that is "progressive". If you support anything else, you're a politically incorrect, racist, hateful, unenlightened moron.
Un real I though we the peole had the Constitutional right to assemble to protest. Once again Washington stomping on our rights. Soon we will be just like China. OPEN YOUR EYES AMERICA. They are turning our country into a police state.
ST, I don't think any of their Constitutional rights were violated; this seems to be a result of their 'occupation' of parks in urban areas becoming a health and safety concern. As far as us becoming a police state, I think you throw that term around too loosely. I had the opportunity to go to East Berlin a couple of times in the 80's and I ve seen what a true police state looks like and we're nowhere near that.
Read the article you dweeb, you can protest as long as you like, you can't camp.
i can't and you aren't any better than me, scumbag
Shawn did you not read the article? They still have the right to protest 24 hours a day if they want they just can't camp or live there...........so what "rights" of theirs is being "stomped" on?
Police State - seriously? You should get out more. Go visit China, Iran, Syria...
Shawn, did you notice that the TEA Party assembled, spoke their minds, cleaned up after themselves and then departed? And they accomplished something! Nancy Pelosi has to use her broom now instead of having her own tax-payer funded 747 to go back and forth from California! Occupy has no message, no stated goals, no discipline, no moral character, and accomplishes nothing!
Shawn, have you ever read the Constitution? Or any of the Supreme Court's opinions regarding free speech? There are very clear demarcations between free speech rights and infringements on local legislation and the rights of others. Interesting reading; it should be required for all Americans. You might want to take a look.
Shawn you do have the right to freedom of political speech but what you don't have the right to is pitching tentsin public places. You don't have the right to defecate all over public places and call it free speech You don't have the right to interfere with the rights of others at the same time you are expressing your rights. You can rage against the state all you want but squatting in a public park is not one of them.
But banks have the right to totally @!$%# up the entire planets economy and then the ones responsible not only get away clean they make hundreds of millions from it? Sounds a lot worse than some people crapping in the streets. Get your priorities straight people. If you are not outraged you are not paying attention.
Apparently the government passing laws that allow the infinite detention of American citizens without a trial and the government repeatedly trying to pass laws that monitor every ones Internet communications are not police state like. I know in my state they are attempting to pass a law where the police can randomly pull over anyone and make sure their stuff is in order. But you have nothing to hide right? What the hell do you people care?
Yes get these people out of the park, so government officials can accept their bribes from businesses in the peace and tranquility they deserve. These people seem to actually believe the Constitution and the Bill of Rights somehow apply to them !!!!!
Apparently you don't quite understand that the Bill of Rights also applies to all those who are affected by their intrusive camp-outs and protests with no cohesive message.
The bribes are all coming from the union thugs. It is why it has taken this loing to finally get the law enforced.
Your cause has been treated with kid gloves as far as law enforcement is concerned. You truly have very little cause to complain that you have been treated badly. Any other group would have thrown out months ago.
I don't see the word "camping" in the Constitution.
It's about time they cracked down on these radical imbeciles. Perhaps if they want to contribute to society they can clean up some of the vile filth they leave behind.
Tony
They would have to form a committee to try to figure out which end of the broom to use.
There's a point where it turns from protesting to just squatting. Like posted earlier, I walked past the occupy camp in Olympia at 9am and didn't see a single person up and moving either. It's like they're occupy ninjas with the purpose of never being seen, but still making damn sure they can put a tent up where ever they want to.
Nice!
I am at a loss for words. You mean Obama is letting the Park's service evict his constituents from DC parks. Oh say it isn't so.
Actually, Obama and Pelosi should consider getting tents and joining them.
Good one Thinker, I am ROTF LMAO. And let's not forget Harry Reid.
Thinker, and wouldn't it be great if a drunk happened to walk thru the park needing a place to take a leak. Hmmm; Pelosi or dead Taliban - tough choice.....
All in good time. November will be here soon. Maybe they can borrow a heater?
Max-3274171
Thinker, and wouldn't it be great if a drunk happened to walk thru the park needing a place to take a leak. Hmmm; Pelosi or dead Taliban - tough choice.....
They do look about the same.
the dems had nothing to do with it. house republicans held the park service chief's feet to the fire to get him to enforce the law. obama is still with the "99%ers."
Occupy Washington all day all week!
It is over , go home.
It was over months ago when people stopped listening. I live in the Washington are and I didn't even know that they were still there. No one is listening why are you still there.
If this was a TEA Party rally the place would be clean and orderly. But Obama would have the Park police busting heads.
Actually he would send in his SIEU thugs like he has in the past. That way he doesn't have to take the blame as usual.
Why is it that the liberal protests always cause vandalism, inconvenience the innocent, cause expensive clean-ups and even involve felonies? They call it civil disobedience but it is really nothing but selfish criminal activity. Meanwhile the TEA Party has a peaceful demonstration that doesn't harm innocents or cause massive expenditures for clean-up, and they are the ones that the the media hypes as evil and corrupt?
And while this Occupy movement has no stated goals and has accomplished nothing, the TEA Party is changing Washington - one House cleaned up in 2010 and the the other two (Senate and White House) to be accomplished in 2012. It is no wonder the left fears them so and thus maligns them constatntly.
Many of these people are homeless, who are an example of the people who have fallen through the cracks in the system. They are not going to go hide under the bridge anymore.
OWS is not a political party either. Its more like a group for anyone with a complain against the system, and who has fallen through the cracks. Or been wiped out by events outside their control. Thats why they have so many demands, some more sensible and in line with tea partiers, and others that are more crazy. Its not a liberal or conservative party, its a "the system isnt working for us" party.
Well they can't hide under the bridge in Kentucky that the ship Captain hit with his boat it's gone.
OWS, has showed remarkable staying power in the face of adversity. They should be proud. Many of their main demands have already led to changes that go a long way to addressing some of your complaints. Like new financial industry regulations that were recently announced. However, your job is not yet done. Campaign reform, fixing the mortgage problem, among other complaints, still need to be addressed. Keep up the fight. Keep pointing out the problems. "Squeaky wheel gets the grease", as my grandma used to say.
OWS is an example of the people who fall through the cracks in the system, and theres no way out for many of them. All they want is help out. Can you blame them for that?
Not sure if that odor would be considered staying power.
they have changed NOTHING, and if you really think they have, I have a bridge to sell you, if you have anything left after buying all the dribble and crap about OWS.
I do believe that the financial regulations were another power grab by the Obama administration-not the OWS.
Find out how much the unions are paying them before you give them too much credit.
The unions are just as greedy and immoral as the present administration. Have no use for either of the them.
Freedom4Everyone,
Freedom of Speech is a right but not squatting on private and pubic property. What angers people the most is the destruction of said property, blocking of businesses and ports, burning of flags, throwing of objects and cursing of law enforcement, ect, ect, ect in the name of free speech. If Occupy WAS peaceful then you would have a case, because of the things I just stated most Americans want nothing to do with your protest.
first amendment rights be damned, protesting againt politicians is what they do not want, and to eliminate that threat, remove the OWS crowd. hell they're ineffective socialists anyway.
I wonder how 500 people walking into each of the big banks offices at the SAME time in NYC would work as a protest? I'm sure that would overwhelm security ;-)
Yes, it would overwhelm bank security. However, those 500 people would probably end up being arrested as they should be. There are better ways to voice your displeasure.
If they were OWS people, Im sure the stench would overwhelm everybody.
Listen to all the GOP: party of No: No & Newt: that wants to go to the moon. & Mitt: sending his money off shore, so he doesn't have to pay Taxes. Its all about the Wealthy getting richer and the middle class getting poorer.....They don't want to help out the poor, I do mean the poor not the lazy good for nothings...Who are the one's that leach off the taxpayer.They: are the Wealthy that get welfare both for themselves or for the Corps. So really All party are at fault...But it seems that the Wealthy get away with it like the Corzine.(.Democrat )...They steal billions and the few poor steals a few thousands. So what does the GOP want to do is Screw the MIddle Class to get even with the few. As I say its the me me me and F everyone else.... The failures of the Republicans party trying to take away SS and Medicare so they can give their wealthy Blackmailers more money...To hell with the Poor and Needy. Let them freeze in the winter and stave the Old and Babies,let them die from bad water, do away with the EPA and thats what you'll have, just like all you Teabaggers want...You make me sick with your Me Me Me altitude. It just a matter of time before the masses raise up against you . Greedy and you all call yourself Christains. What a laugh: Your no better than all the Muslims you all hate. Wake up America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WAKE UP
I think your tin hat is a little tight.
In Odumbo world if you are successful in America its BAD. People are chastised for being successful. Did Romney break any tax laws? NO Did He pay his taxes? YES (Our Secretary of Treasury DID NOT.) Unlike our president, Romney even gave 10% of his income to charities. But thats BAD. And the diviends that Romney received were already taxed once. Let me see he paid 35% on the money first and then another 15% on it when it made money thats 45% if my fifth grade math is right. Note he invested his own money not TAX PAYERS money in the United States . But thats BAD in America. Not paying taxes and not being successful are now GOOD in America. What has happen the last three years to change a mindset of being successful or wanting to be successful. We can't take another 4 years of this fool we have in charge now. Wake up America before its to late if it isn't already. He wants to ruin this country.
ya ya ya ya..
Maze
Maybe me, me, me is getting tired of taking care of you, you , you, because you lack the skills and ambition to take care of yourself.
Will take a long time to get the stench out of the park. Keep the cop cars away or they will have one of them taking a dump on it again. And you know after one did dump on the cop car the media thought it was great! Oh well what can you expect from Odumbo supporters?
Only in Obama's America do you see people complaining about someone who paid over $6,000,000 in taxes(Romney). Lets see, take everybody who makes a post complaining how the "fat cats" dont pay enough taxes, multiply it by 100 and you still wouldn't get to $6,000,000. He went by the TAX CODE you morons...
Bill
I gather you like Romney, but he pulled in his accounts for offshore banks Why? because he is running for president. He got rid of any illegal labor around his place why? because he is running for president. I would have been VERY surprised if his taxes weren't squeaky clean, at least the tax forms he released. Why? because he is running for president. He took a little time to make sure that he looks as good as possible, to cover anything that could be used agianst him. Why? I donno. Take a guess.
The "slow creeps" are in the tents.
Funny, the rightwing nuts on here hating the OWS. You guys sound like broken records, belittleing, demonizing, totally ignorant of who OWS actually is. Well, I guess it's like everything else you guys think...if Fox news says it over and over enough to you, you believe it and go around repeating it like robots....The Joke is on you, OWS has accomplished more than you GOP/TP robots will in your entire lives....so sit back and watch more FOX. Then you don't have to think about it, you can just believe what you are told about it and repeat...repeat...repeat...duh. And we, well most of us have already heard everything you have to say, all your propaganda, all your B.S. just trying to get the black man out of office...You are exposed and we all pretty much think you are idiots...
"we all pretty much think you are idiots..."
As opposed to the fact that your post & maze's are remarkably similar. Well, thanks for the laugh-call us when you have something with credence to it, OK?
DO YOU know who they are?
Please, enlighten us.
Your a right wing ta nut....You can tell all the right winger on here...The sh*t that come out of their mouth....You go side with Newt and his lies.....You get what you pay for....( Nothing )
Please enlighten me about one (1) ONE thing this OWS crap has accomplished that amounts to anything. Just one thing please. Only one thing. If anyone is exposed, it is you with your racist ranting and raving. Sorry little Timmy, but until you begin to understand that your man is no different than the ones you claim to be so idiotic, you will never get beyond where you are right now. You are a pathetic little wimp and you don't have a clue.
Crapping in your tent is quite an accomplishment. Maze and Tim, we are laughing at you and the rest of your OWS, you are nothing and will never be anything but the stinky children in the park.
Every time I need a good laugh, I look for a OWS story, it brightens up my day with comedy. I want Obama out of office because he is incompetent, his skin color isn't a factor for me. im. looks like you are the RACIST here...
Donn: The fredom to do it....its their right ..if your to stupid to see what all the Republican are doing to this country. You all got the answwers but not one idea. Your a sorry excuss for a christain......loser
maze,
Occupy has all the ideas but no answers. Its not our fault you guys can't even get more than a few people to attend one of your rallys. Face it your movement is DOA.
Mac
I hate to contradict you, but wasn't the OWS just supposed to blow away after the first two weeks? It didn't. a month later I heard/read that OWS was over. Another month, OWS was over again. And again, and again. Every time they make a protest, or block a bank it isn't over. It seems like people who want it over keep saying it's over, because they think if they say it enough it's true. Just thought I'd point that fact out.
Last monday, over 300,000 citizens, myself included, showed up in Washington D.C. for the annual March for life, to little or no media coverage. 300,000 Americans who are mostly contributing members of society flooded the capitol to legally protest, and were largely ignored by news services. Meanwhile, this piddly group of campers is still getting coverage left and right. Guess we can see where the priorities of the media lie!
The priorities of the media is to flood us with reports from Middle East and Arab Spring. When the shooting starts here they will not be able to figure out what happened. They serve the 1% and their propaganda machine- you should have figured it out by now.
That is why I'm going to buy a gun so I can shoot back at the people that are too lazy or that don't want to learn how to be wealth.