Bodies pile up at Cook County morgue; activists outraged

Cook County officials say they are being forced to change morgue procedures due to an overflow of unclaimed bodies. Charlie Wojciechowski reports.

CHICAGO – Outraged pastors and community activists on Friday descended upon the Cook County Medical Examiner's Office and called for an independent investigation after reports that bodies have been piling up for weeks.

At least one activist openly called for the facility's director, Dr. Nancy L. Jones to step down.

"Somebody needs to be held accountable for what happened," said Dawn Valenti, who works to help families find missing loved ones.

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Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle a day earlier said Jones will remain -- for now -- but called for a top-to-bottom review of the facility.


"This is a reminder of how my ancestors -- how the remains of our ancestors were treated like garbage," Peggy Hudgens said through tears at the building at 2121 W. Harrison St.

Hudgens claimed to have been trying to resolve her brother's death and burial since October.

The issue has been simmering for months, if not years. As many as 363 bodies were reportedly once collected in a cooler designed to hold just 300. Ministers gathered Friday to pray for the deceased and to call for justice.

Anti-violence community activist Andrew Holmes was among the protesters and wondered aloud about the accountability of missing persons at the morgue.

"We want those deceased finger-printed and identified. We still have a lot of missing, unclaimed and missing people that have not been found," he said.

Holmes focused specifically on Carmelita Johnson, a woman who'd gone missing and was ultimately found in the facility. Her family said they tried to find her for more than a year. Johnson has since been buried.

The Illinois Department of Labor said it's also opened an investigation into "worker safety issues."

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#1 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:26 PM EST

Reminds me of the other recent article about a lady's remains kept in a storage locker, which I'm sure got people wondering how many other instances like this are going on. (I think that was in Clearwater, Florida, if I recall correctly.)

It wouldn't be at all surprising, with the way the economy has been so stagnant, if it turns out that more and more family members just can't afford the expense of a proper funeral service anymore. A sad state of affairs in any case.

  • 6 votes
#1.1 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:43 AM EST
Comment author avatarBlacksheep-286101Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Wonder how many got there because they disagreed with obama and his ilke.....

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:42 AM EST

Congratulations Blacksheet - you're the first mindless twit to bring Obama into the conversation.

  • 26 votes
#1.3 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:58 AM EST

Cook County is famous as the home of government corruption and politician graft. As a 'union town' the several union boss dictate who gets first dib on the sought-after high paying jobs. The well-connected and insider of Cook County politic live-off of the public trough while the working stiffs pay hefty taxes. Labor Unions and socialism have destroyed Illinois.

Illinois is bankrupt, despite having sold one of its freeway to a private toll road operator. Like the massive Federal government, Illinois doles out freebies on other people's dime. It is not surprising both sovereign are bankrupted by Big Government.

The too-many- corps- in-the morgue problem is just the tip of the iceberg. There are many more dead bodies in Illinois masquerading as government workers. They are part of the political spoils that reward jobs to party members. As in the Federal government, Illinois government grew out of control.

  • 15 votes
#1.4 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:14 AM EST

Those are Chicago voters that Rham was counting on for the November Presidential election. Chicago at it's finest!

  • 13 votes
#1.5 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:00 AM EST

I wonder what destroyed non union towns and states with Republican populations and Governors. Arizona, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, and many others come to mind.

I guess you don't have children because you would never send them to a socialized school system, or rely on the fire or police departments, certainly you will deny your socialized Medicare and Social Security payments too. Driving down the road also is a socialized function since taxes pay for the benefit of all motorist. You must have a small life not to use socialized activities. Just curious: What state do you think has not been affected by the last Republican Depression and is thriving as well as when Clinton was in office?

  • 13 votes
#1.6 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:01 AM EST

Well fatcat isn't it time someone does something about it. First of all there seems to be some overcrowding but should n't be the complaint. We need a computer based place for these people . Maybe their picture and what info they have should be posted on facebook or something. They seem to be involved in everything else and it wouldn't cost anything. Some don't seem to realize that someone missing in Virginia or California or Florida could be in some big city somewhere. Or in the very same town. Doesn't matter. Let us use our technology to find people. And once they have identified if the family cannot afford a burial let someone should volunteer a piece of property or money to bury them in a paupers grave. That happenedd before. If that outrages anyone then they can find the money to bury them where they want. After all beggars can't be choosy.

  • 2 votes
#1.7 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:07 AM EST

Wow, why in the world weren't the loved ones of the people screaming? Or were they homeless so the county didn't figure it mattered? How sad.

  • 1 vote
#1.8 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:32 AM EST

I have 2 siblings in their 50s who still live and depend on our parents for support, one is a drunk the other has untreated mental illness; I took out 2 life insurance policies on them so their unexpected burials would not ruin my parents financially. Think ahead, those TV ads for life insurance may actually be good to watch!

  • 3 votes
#1.9 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:13 AM EST

I know this first hand. If you go visit nursing homes across the US you will quickly realize that many do not have any connection to any family member. Nobody comes to visit these people and so it is no wonder that there are many that die unnoticed. The family unit is broken in this country and many kids just wander off today and rarely stay in touch with siblings. When then comes to pay for their burial? Is it the state's responsibility? If so, how do they pay for this added expense?

Illinois is bankrupt. It had to happen. How many governors over the years have been sent to prison? I believe that number is 4. They raised taxes but didn't cut the ever dragging pension expenses that is making Illinois turn into Greece.

They are borrowing money now to pay for the borrowed money of yesterday. Sad. Criminals.

  • 2 votes
#1.10 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:40 AM EST

Wow, why in the world weren't the loved ones of the people screaming?

How can the loved ones scream if the bodies aren't being identified? This is probably a result of the all too familiar 'budget cuts'.

  • 2 votes
#1.11 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:44 AM EST

@FatCatGets$700Bil - your screen name makes one think you are fed up with the 1%, but then you knock the workers who are fighting for a living wage and healthcare. You and many more Americans are confused. Only 11.8% of American workers are represented by a union according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The real “class warfare” is being created by the “Fat Cats” with their manipulative propaganda machines by pitting the workers against each other to destroy the unionization of bargaining. The working stiffs you speak of need to unionize and join forces with the those that will try to help them and form a voting block that will put a Congress in place that will keep jobs in the USA and level the playing field. Don’t accept living in poverty, quit listening to anti-union propaganda everyone and stop relying on “Corporate Bosses” and their Republican Party to pay or make rules for a living wage because it will never happen. Wake up workers of the USA these people have made money hand over fist this entire “Great Recession” which was of their own doing. Remember the “Corporate Bosses” want to be your master not your employer.

  • 5 votes
#1.12 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:56 AM EST

I wonder if Dick knows that democrats were in charge of Congress when the recession began? I do like your generalizations though "Republican Depression".

  • 1 vote
#1.13 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:54 AM EST

Armurray 1.5

Are you kidding? This is Chicago, they'll still vote.... multiple times.

  • 2 votes
#1.14 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:59 AM EST

no more filbert

"I wonder if Dick knows that democrats were in charge of Congress when the recession began? I do like your generalizations though "Republican Depression".

You are a good Republican, you never let facts stand in the way. The economic collapse hit full force in 2008 when the Democrats had only a one vote majority in the senate, they did not have a full majority in congress until 2009. The Republican had control of congress from 1995 - 2006 which includes a tie in the senate with a Republican tie breaker. The Republicans were in control in the decade leading up to the recession. So what is your point? Try some reading and research before you draw an uninformed conclusion and make yourself look stupid.

  • 2 votes
#1.15 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:23 PM EST

What exactly do they want the morgue to do? Just dump these people into a landfill, like they were some kind of lowly veteran.

    #1.16 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:59 PM EST
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    I'm trying to be fair here but for the life of me I can't think of any good reason for this to happen. Simple math, you have a certain number of incoming cases, an average time per case and a certain number of resouces available to perform each autopsy. It should be simple to determine when you need help and should never get to this point. I know it's a cold analysis but unless they were denied the needed help I cannot imagine what the excuse is. Sounds like simple mis-management on a grand scale. If the city itself denied the resources needed then there maybe there are more people to blame then the doctor in charge.

    • 11 votes
    Reply#3 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:34 PM EST

    Like the people who do nothing and receive nice paychecks?

    • 5 votes
    #3.1 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:52 AM EST

    It's called being understaffed, Roberta. Budget cuts will do that. =:P

    • 11 votes
    #3.2 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:51 AM EST

    If you know anything about Cook county, you know that generally they have more people on the payroll than will be needed in 10 years.

    The real question is: What are they doing?

    Usually the answer: Nothing, because they have other jobs, and Democratic political commitments.

    • 7 votes
    #3.3 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:44 AM EST

    I'm going with understaffed. I bet it gets worse in this and other depts at the rate we are going.

    • 4 votes
    #3.4 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:45 AM EST
    Reply

    We still have a lot of missing, unclaimed and missing people that have not been found," he said.

    Really? Cuz, like, if they were found, they wouldn't be, like, missing?

    • 9 votes
    Reply#4 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:03 AM EST

    Unfortunately, there are a lot of homeless, elderly or just lonely people who don't have family or friends who report them as missing. That is why it's a good idea to check on that elderly neighbor that never seems to never have anyone visit them.

    • 2 votes
    #4.1 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:06 AM EST
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    It's because all of those bodies belong to people who can't or won't pay for burial. Sad as it is, the city's broke, the state is broke, and there is no money left.

    Welcome to the future. At least in Illinois.

    • 13 votes
    Reply#5 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:39 AM EST

    Thank your Govoner.

    • 2 votes
    #5.1 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:06 AM EST

    The govoner says you're welcome, especially for Illinois' excellent educational system. Seriously, folks, when the red line appears beneath your typed word, all you need do is right click the mouse and the correct spelling will appear for you to choose. The cool thing is that you learn to spell as a result of this process!

    • 8 votes
    #5.2 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:15 AM EST

    It's because all of those bodies belong to people who can't or won't pay for burial.

    Really? How can those people pay for burials if the bodies aren't even being identified?

    • 1 vote
    #5.3 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:48 AM EST

    I would think that the Cook Co. legislators might want to consider a contract with a funeral home to provide cremation services for indigent people who die. Take photographs, tissue samples for DNA, dental x-rays for dental comparisons and fingerprints for those who are unidentified and put them in a database for future identification. Then after a REASONABLE amount of time, cremate the bodies. Then the cremains can even be kept in storage for a time (like a year or two) until family has had a chance to figure out someone is missing. THEN they can be buried (and in less space).

      #5.4 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:27 AM EST
      Reply

      Wow - this is a meltdown of the old system NOW in motion, be ready folks, hold on, and try to stay in peace in your heart and strengthen your connection to your soul.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#6 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:54 AM EST

      I think it's impractical to idealize death and corpses, which, in reality, are no more than the detritus of a life ended. Simply dispose of the corpses in the most economical fashion available.

      • 5 votes
      Reply#7 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:10 AM EST

      A modest proposal, sir.

      • 4 votes
      #7.1 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:26 AM EST

      So you'll be happy with being tossed into the nearest landfill?

      • 2 votes
      #7.2 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:43 AM EST

      Soylent green ....... snacks for the GOP

        #7.3 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:23 AM EST

        Severed head

        If you have passed away, you are only happy, if you are with the Lord.

        God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, so that whoever would believe in him, would have eternal life. John 3:16

          #7.4 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:31 PM EST
          Reply

          Really, this is ridiculous at best. Who cares? They are simply dead carcasses nothing more. Simply because they were "loved" ones when they were alive doesn't carry over in death. Their conscience is gone there is nothing in the body that needs to be preserved. Just another case of people making money off the dead, funeral homes, churches, limos, flowers, caskets absolutely useless to the dead. I really don't think they care one way or the other, they are dead. Stop putting so much importance's on the dead and pretending they are being dishonored they aren't. Another way religion brain washes our nation.

          • 6 votes
          Reply#8 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:36 AM EST

          If they're "piling up", they're probably nothing more than useless interchangeable gangbangers. Dig a hole on some derelict city property (no, not city hall) and toss 'em in. Problem solved, case closed.

          • 5 votes
          #8.1 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:34 AM EST

          Gee, you two are just filled with compassion, aren't you? If everyone felt like you do the problem would be solved. We could just process the remains into soap. But first extract any gold teeth or fillings. And there are any interesting tatoos we could use them for lampshades or book covers.

          Sound good to you?

          • 2 votes
          #8.2 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:48 AM EST

          Snappa, the point is families are still looking for them and don't know they have died.

            #8.3 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:53 AM EST

            Agree with SNAPPA 100%. The body is dead. The spirit is gone. Donate to science or cremate them. We keep holding onto dead bodies and the earth will turn into one BIG graveyard. Ridiculous!!

              #8.4 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:13 PM EST
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              Comment author avatarniborExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Bodies pile up at Cook County morgue

              The Obama mob just trying to cut down on welfare and Medicaid expenses. Not likely to top the suddenly missing 316,000 unemployed that mysteriously disappeared but they are at least trying.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#9 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:42 AM EST

              You're an idiot and your post has 0 relevance. Clearly there is a better reason than the POTUS having something to do with this fiasco.

              • 1 vote
              #9.1 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:15 AM EST

              Someone is probably still collecting SS and Medicare checks for them.

              Obviously they aren't dead if they don't have a death certificate and are still voting. Keep it up Illinois.

              • 4 votes
              #9.2 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:09 AM EST

              Obama needs them for the election.

              • 2 votes
              #9.3 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:23 AM EST
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              Comment author avatarProfessor MorbiusExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Soylent Green is people!

              The beef industry grinds up it's "downers" along with the bones, hoofs, intestines, lips, scrotums, and brains. They serve it as a delicious meal to other cows as they wait in turn for slaughter. it makes informed consumers nervous about contracting Jacob Krutzsfield's, a degenerative and diabolical brain disease. The chicken industry does the same thing.

              Barak Obama's mandatory doctor assisted suicide health plan is a step in that direction. For now, unregulated criminal capitalists can grind up the bodies for fertilizer. Later, they'll add some sawdust and spices, processing that nutritious offal into delicious sausages for the working class. Another money-making deal for the secret cult that administers the system. Bon appetite!

              • 1 vote
              Reply#10 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:13 AM EST

              There is and never was "Obama's mandatory doctor assisted suicide health plan..." Are you too lazy to check your facts, just hear what you want to hear, or simply someone who likes to commit libel?

              • 5 votes
              #10.1 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:32 AM EST

              All of the above. Or just too stupid.

              Isn't it interesting how a few people manage to bring politics into something that has almost nothing to do with politics? Especially national politics.

              We copuld probably reduce the Newsvine postings by about 75% if everyone would just stipulate that everything that has ever gone wrong in the history of the world, or will ever go wrong in the future is Obama's fault.

              • 1 vote
              #10.2 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:52 AM EST
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              I feel like there is more to this story. Why have the numbers changed now? here in Oregon, we are having less people claim their dead because they can't afford to bury them. Could that be it? Is it more violent deaths in Chicago? What caused the change? I understand the outrage, but obviously no one wants the bodies to pile up.

              • 4 votes
              Reply#11 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:23 AM EST

              It's been a problem for several years. It was reported a couple of years ago when Blagojovich was mayor and the state did not have funds for burial of indigents as the law requires. At that point it was a statewide problem in Illinois.

              • 1 vote
              #11.1 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:13 AM EST
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              There are several senarios here. If they keep them around long enough their names will end up on voting ballots, some of them are still drawing pensions, welfare checks, and other assistance from the state and Govt. Those bastards know what they're doing. Then of course some of the families simply cannot afford proper disposal. I would venture futher to say that it's just not Chicago.

              • 6 votes
              Reply#12 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:55 AM EST

              "This is a reminder of how my ancestors -- how the remains of our ancestors were treated like garbage," Peggy Hudgens said through tears.... I hardly think race plays a part in this. Incompetence, yes.

              • 7 votes
              Reply#13 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:59 AM EST

              either give the facility more resources so it can do it's job or stop the violence that supply more bodies to be processed. that's a lot of bodies to be processed and you can't rush them if you want autopsies to be correct in case they need those data for criminal prosecution.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#14 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:12 AM EST

              I'm certain deep budget cuts were behind this. It is my understanding that the windy city is not so financially concrete at this time. Like many other city/state/federal offices, I'm sure the Medical Examiners office had to absorb some lost revenue lately.

              • 3 votes
              Reply#15 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:19 AM EST
              Comment author avatarStephen Bozichvia Facebook

              What you call "a morgue over-flowing with unclaimed bodies", I call a Chicago voting drive. Obama 2012, baby!

              • 4 votes
              Reply#16 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:15 AM EST

              Why in the nine hells would this be happening?

              Are these people who were originally missing? As in missing persons who could not be accounted for living or dead?

              Or are these people who passed away with loved ones knowing where they went but then just randomly got caught up in some sort of weird "oops we misplaced the body" sort of deal?

                Reply#17 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:30 AM EST

                I don't know much about storing bodies, but it would seem that if it was a matter of the family not being responsible for one reason or another they would cremate the remains. Even storing a body in a morgue does not prevent a certain amount of decay. These bodies won't last forever especially if they have not been "processed" for burial. The John and Jane Does are a different story. But even then, they could store samples from these bodies with finger prints and photos and cremate them as well. It's difficult to think of a body being left like this. Someone needs to treat them with respect and lay them to rest. They can't just keep piling them up. Funerals are expensive but cremations are a reasonable option.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#18 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:46 AM EST

                "Reasonable" is relative. When my father was cremated the cost was about $1100. Not a lot of money for me, but if someone's living on Social Security that's a major expense.

                  #18.1 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:55 AM EST
                  Reply

                  Here we go again. Another article posted by NBC that is poorly written and look to insight bad feelings.

                  The issue has been simmering for months, if not years. As many as 363 bodies were reportedly once collected in a cooler designed to hold just 300. Ministers gathered Friday to pray for the deceased and to call for justice.

                  Anybody that wants to read a better article should click on the link included in the second line of the article and read the Sun Times article. It is better written.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#19 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:47 AM EST
                  SengKoooDeleted

                  This is a grim reminder of the death of my now x-husband. In 2006 in June he passed away. In approximately October of 2005 he was hit by a newspaper distribution truck at an intersection while he was riding to school on a bicycle. The impact threw him 300 feet through the air...destroying his left hip, breaking his left arm in 3 places, breaking his left ribs and splitting his skull so badly his brain matter extruded. It dislocated his jaw and damaged some of his teeth. Someone called the ambulance. The paramedics arrived and took a look at his massive injuries and bleeding from his skull...one of them said, "This old boy is not going to make it!" Apparently, "the old boy" was conscious and his eyes flipped open and he spoke loudly, "Put the petal to metal! I am still alive!" It was only then that the paramedics responded...and put him on the tram, loaded him and vesseled him off to the Hospital.

                  He died three times in the hospital and they revived him each time. He was in the hospital a month before he was released...brain damaged and in a wheel chair. That was October, 2005.

                  In May, 2006 I was walking down the Mall corridor in Fresno, Cal. and I saw hobbling toward me a very old appearing man...balding, crippled and on crutches. The man was practically skin and bone and weighted maybe 80 pounds. Next to him strolled a tiny elderly woman...it was not me!

                  I began to pass them...and the man stared at me...Merrily he said. I was not certain I heard my name, so I continued to walk past them...but he repeated my name, "Merrily?" Then I paused and really looked...I recognized my now divorced spouse from 14 years earlier...and asked, "who are you?" He said, "I am Michael, you husband!" We were divorced in 1992. But he never let me go, I suppose...this trauma had produced his deepest desire: to see me one more time before he said goodbye.

                  I began to cry and we embraced. His girlfriend asked me to sit with him and talk to him as she said, "Michael needs to talk to you...for closure." So we choose a table and he explained his accident to me. At the time he was also going to Fresno State University. He was studying Electrical Engineering. Michael was a brilliant man...however his addiction issues was his constant battleground!

                  We parted and they invited me to their apartment near the University. It was symbolic to me because the apartments were exactly in the same location where we lived when we moved to Fresno in 1985...the end was a reflection of the beginning. And in between 1985 and 2006, Micheal had lost his mother, her mother, his grandmother and grandfather, his step-mother, his Father, and I had lost my mother and father as well. We both experienced more than our share of sorrows.

                  I thank God that I was able to say good-bye to Micheal, my x-husband...we visited a few times between the living and the dying...he explained to me that his brain could not function like it had because he had lost some of him higher math function abilities. And he was now having to face not ever walking distances again...and was in the process of getting an expensive motorized wheel chair. In June of 2006...he supposedly graduated from California University in Fresno with a degree in Electrical Engineering...but he expressed, "no one will ever hire me!"

                  Approximately 5 days after he graduated...his girlfriend called me..."Merrily, Michael is dead." I was not believing what I was hearing. She told me over the phone that "He passed away in his sleep. When I awoke this morning he was laying next to me, stiff and cold." I asked her how he died. She said he took too many sleeping pills and pain killers...she said the bottle was empty.

                  I cried and wailed and knew there was nothing I could do...but his girlfriend wanted me to call his relatives. Apparently she did not know where they were. Even after 14 years of being separate...I knew. I asked where his body was. She said, "the coroner came and picked him up and he was in the county morgue." I tracked this information down and the coroner was doing an autopsy. That made the offical information about the overdose...real. Michael had submitted to his own demise. He graduated. Something he wanted to do ever since we were together. And he saw me to say goodbye, one last time.

                  That was not the end of this story. His girlfriend decided not to claim the body. She said the country would cremate his remains for free. If she claimed his body she would have to pay for it. She said she had no money to do anything. However she had possession of all his stuff...including a newly acquired 10,000 dollar motorized wheelchair.

                  I said I will claim his body. But the coroner said I could not because we were officially divorced. They said I could claim his body after 30 days if no one else did and after his next of kin had been notified. So this becomes now very convoluted: His girlfriend did not know any of his kin. The county of Fresno did not have any records. They had no information on his body, no ID, apparently nothing. They had no way of locating any of this information. So they asked me...a person who was not allowed to claim his body to give him a decent burial.

                  Mike's older brother was a Captain in the Atlanta Georgia Police Department; handsome, young and rich and a legend. I got in touch with them and then located him. I told him the sad news. He did not believe me. I said someone needs to claim Mike's body and they will not allow me to. He told me he would not allow me to claim his body...he then hemmed and hawwed about doing it himself.

                  Well, these calls went back and forth for a couple of weeks, meanwhile the coroner put Mike's body in cold storage and let it chill. Then it lay there for another couple of weeks. Finally his brother gave permission to cremate. But someone had to collect and pay and call for Mike's ashes. Well by then a month had gone by. Mike's body had lain in the cooler for a month before cremation and then his ashes sat in the coroners building for another month because his brother had not claimed them. Brother!

                  I begged the coroner to allow me to pay for his ashes...and claim them. The coroner refused, saying as long as his brother had promised...they would have to wait. And wait poor Michael did! Finally the coroner said, "the brother sent for his ashes!" What happened to Michael McCarthy's ashes after that is any bodies guess. Mike's ashes we supposed to go to the family plot, but their was only one space left...it was reserved for the first brother, out of three to die. It was next to the Father, and the Mother...

                  So I looked up the third remaining brother. It was several months and by now the end of summer. His other brother, did not bother contacting him and giving his the news of his brothers death. Unfortunately...it was up to me...my call. This was also a very sad experience. He was truely in disbelief. Mike and him were very close. Why did I have to be the person to relay the sad news?

                  The end result is: I do not know what became of Micheal McCarthy's ashes. For all I know, the older brother tossed them into a garbage bin or worse...because the third brother has no idea where Mike's ashes are either.

                  So I have to agree with this article. We are not taking care of our own dead. Something that made us different than animals in the beginning...was the acknowledgement of the sacred passage of birth to death and the ritual of saying goodbye and allowing the souls to rest in peace...something that is not being done today in modern society, although we are surrounded by wealth and luxury beyond imaginings and volumes of words claiming "how far society has progressed!"

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#21 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:25 AM EST

                  Merrily Ann McCarthy

                  I hope you have come to terms with your loss. At least he died with you caring for him.

                    #21.1 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:22 AM EST

                    Holy smokes, what a horrific experience for you! But it does prove a point that bodies piling up in the morgue are not necessarily the fault of the examiner's office. Clearly there are families who do not want to take on the task or responsibility of dealing with a deceased relative whether it be for financial or other reasons. And in some cases, they don't even have a clue has to who to contact about the body to begin with. Everyone is quick to blame the system and make accusations about what workers may or may not be doing when they go to work every day. But the fact is, there are rules and policies by which they must abide and they can't just toss unclaimed bodies into the street. There is a process they must go through to make sure they aren't disposing of remains without making significant effort to contact next of kin, and this obviously takes time.

                    • 2 votes
                    #21.2 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:42 AM EST

                    so it could be that the families dont give a crap? I mean how could that be since they are black? Black people never do anything wrong and why would they be protesting then? Black people are blameless in this white devil world.

                      #21.3 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:28 AM EST
                      Reply

                      I think overpopulation is the problem. If half of the world's population died today, the world would be a far more healthier place!

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#22 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:58 AM EST

                      Exponential growth is a b!@#h! Wouldn't fix the problem of bodies piling up though.

                        #22.1 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:35 AM EST

                        You'd have such bad pollution in the drinking water if mass death occurred. Botulism would affect one third of the world.

                          #22.2 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:40 AM EST

                          Since you feel so strongly would you volunteer?

                            #22.3 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:59 AM EST

                            Hopefully it will be your half first.

                              #22.4 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:29 AM EST
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                              Will this stop the violence causing the deaths? Maybe if they start stacking the bodies outside in public view. People might see just how sobering death is to other and start having compassion for human life. You don't have to hold hands and skip rope together, just turn around and walk away when your anger flares up. Like I do everyday when I think of obama.

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                              Reply#23 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:25 AM EST

                              hahahaha! Yeah, let's throw em all in your back yard... so you stop killing us with this propaganda!

                                #23.1 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:40 AM EST

                                hahahaha! Yeah, let's throw em all in your back yard... so you stop killing us with this propaganda!

                                  #23.2 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:41 AM EST

                                  Stack the bodies on the steps of Congress and the Senate.

                                  A small sample of what the 537 traitors have brought to the rest of the US.

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                                  #23.3 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:52 AM EST
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                                  Is this not a Demoncrat Run City State? So then, what appears to be the problem.....Sounds like business as usual to me...Standard Demoncrat incompetence at work here....So why is any surprised or outraged...

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                                  Reply#24 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:49 AM EST

                                  USA is spending trillions to kill people...but not one penny on burying the dead...

                                  Soylent Green: Coming to a store near YOU...

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                                  Reply#25 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:51 AM EST

                                  Wait till next year. We'll you send back your community agitator Hussein and he can give Cook County some of his in-famous "Hoax and Chains." He and Rahm-A Match Made in HELL!

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                                  Reply#26 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:02 AM EST

                                  Alan,,, Aren't you still having birth certificate problems?

                                    #26.1 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:51 PM EST
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                                    I never understood why some societies make such a fuss over dead people. They're DEAD! Their corpses have no value to themselves or to their families and friends. There's no life, no mind, no spirit, no NOTHING! Unless they're carrying a contagious disease it doesn't matter how they're disposed of. Let go of ancient superstitions. "Holidays" like Day of the Dead are foolish. If you want to think about your late grandma you can do that anywhere and any time. You don't have to pack up the family once a year to put flowers on her grave or leave stones on it. Grandma doesn't "live" in the box under the ground there. She doesn't know of your visit and feel content that she's not forgotten. How long can grandma's memory last? Two generations? I never knew my great-grandparents. I don't trek around the country looking for their graves. They never knew me and can't know me now. They're DEAD!

                                    I'm 76 and before too long I'll be dead. I won't be 'prepared' nor will I be on view for days. They'll have a little service the night that I die and the next day some church brothers will find a space in the municipal cemetery, dig the appropriate hole, and put my encased body in the ground. There will be some words spoken about me, some prayers said, perhaps some tears shed. I won't know a thing about it. They'll throw the dirt over the box and put some flowers on the mound of dirt. They'll all go home and my memory will fade with time. Get real, people. Death is the absence of life and nothing more.

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                                    Reply#27 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:05 AM EST

                                    George Karlin should do an act based on this. lol

                                      #27.1 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:42 AM EST
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