62 below: Deep freeze grips much of Alaska

Downtown Anchorage, Alaska, has seen a snowy and icy winter, including this scene from Jan. 18.

Even if it has been warmer than usual in much of the United States, there's no denying Alaska is seeing a real winter, even by its standards.

Anchorage is shivering through one of its coldest January's on record, while in Fairbanks, folks preparing for a sled dog race were being tested by temperatures nearly 50 degrees below zero. Farther inland, Fort Yukon has ranged from minus 50 to minus 62 degrees over the last three days, getting close to its record of minus 78.


Anchorage's average temperature for January has been 2.7 degrees Fahrenheit, the Alaska Daily News reported. That's well below its average of 15 degrees, and only three other years (1947, 1925 and 1920) have been colder, National Weather Service data show.

It's so cold for Anchorage, the Daily News reported, that:

  • Cross country ski practices by the Junior Nordic League have been canceled due to temps dipping below the official cut-off of minus 4 degrees.
  • Tow trucks are so busy helping folks with dead car batteries that it can take up to four hours to get service.
  • Some schools have had only a handful of outdoor recess days this month.

In Fairbanks, where the Yukon Quest sled dog race starts on Saturday, some racers have had a hard time moving their trucks around due to a freeze that kept engines from starting, the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner reported.

Fort Yukon, for its part, dipped to 62 degrees below zero on Saturday, then hit 59 below on Sunday, the National Weather Service reported.

The deep freeze is in addition to the record snow and blizzard conditions seen earlier this month in towns like Cordova and Valdez. Even Anchorage is on track to see a record snow season, having received more than twice its average amount so far.

 

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The Fairbanks Fire Department has formed a special squad of firemen to drive around the city and break dogs loose from fire hydrants.

  • 53 votes
#2 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:25 AM EST
Comment author avatarromy-3066511Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

you are not the least bit funny. In fact you show your stupidity with your ignorant post.

  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:08 PM EST

it was cute .don't listen.Prig

  • 11 votes
#2.2 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:27 PM EST

Sorry romy...but it is funny. My dogs think so, too. As for my cats, they can't stop laughing.

  • 25 votes
#2.3 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:31 PM EST

Actaully that was pretty damn funny

  • 13 votes
#2.4 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:32 PM EST

Aw romy, did you forget to lube that stick up again? I thought I told you to find a smoother one too. I can't imagine the sharp pointy ones being all that comfortable.

His joke was at least better than all the political mumbo jumbo being spewed out.

  • 19 votes
#2.5 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:51 PM EST

Remiscent of a mid eighties pattern. Soon that system will head south into Alberta where we saw -40's. Aircraft contrails started at ground level.

    #2.6 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:23 PM EST

    I'm in Anchorage, haven't noticed my dog freezing to anything but she definitely is out and back in pretty fast : ) It's also good she's a big dog, otherwise she wouldn't make it through the snow in my yard!

    • 9 votes
    #2.7 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:27 PM EST

    In fact you show your stupidity with your ignorant post.

    romy3066511, you are suspended for a day for violating rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.

    Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

    Comment # 1 deleted, political derail.

    • 12 votes
    #2.8 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:42 PM EST

    I live in Fairbanks and Denver Bill has made the best comment I've read about the temps up here. Outstanding! I'd tip my hat but it seems to be frozen to my head.

    • 7 votes
    #2.9 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:12 PM EST

    After spending one winter at Ft. Greely, I found that hysterical. Thanks for giving us a good laugh.

    • 4 votes
    #2.10 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:23 PM EST

    Romy:

    Chill-

    denver bill's comment was dang FUNNY. I would smile but my face would break!

    • 5 votes
    #2.11 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:26 PM EST

    Spot on, Sally.

    • 1 vote
    #2.12 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:08 PM EST

    @ Denver Bill: Thanks. That was a good one!!! LOL Dog standing on three legs waiting for a rescue.

    • 2 votes
    #2.13 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:37 AM EST

    @Romy Sorry your funny bone got broke, maybe you can get a transplant?

    • 1 vote
    #2.14 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:13 AM EST

    To all my fellow alaskans I feel for you. Make sure that you keep an eye out for fire,hope that your furnace is running good . THis is a bad time of year for them but it seams to happen a lot at these cold temps. Stay warm and look out for the people in need of help. I am not in state now an I still miss it (even at these cold temps). I hope that my house is ok an does not freeze up. good luck and Hope for a break in the weather soon. Anyone there from AK . how long has it been below -30 (days in a row?) I believe it is 20 some days below -40 for a cold snap the coldest winter I have been in was the winter of 88&89...-74 @ Anderson/clear

      #2.15 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:21 AM EST
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      Rick:

      You go out & work in those temps.

      the most welfared up state in the country

      Not welfare, a bonus from the oil industry paid to all Alaskans, your envy is showing.

      • 23 votes
      Reply#3 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:32 AM EST

      daryl: You must be in a union member. OK Texas is a right to work state, but that works both directions. I have lived in Texas for 17 years, I came from Europe (UK) I am now a proud American citizen (not a subject of the British crown).

      Texas is still the land of milk & honey, IF you are prepared to work, I don't mean 9-5, but all hours god sends, in several jobs if you have to. It takes time, but you will succeed, I pay no union dues, there is no state income tax, sales tax is 8% and housing is very affordable. AND the weather is warm

      • 7 votes
      #3.2 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:35 PM EST

      Keep in mind the population of Alaska: 663,661. At a bonus level for every man, woman and child, the price tag is $730,027,100 for the oil company bonus.

      If Texas oil paid the same bonus to Texans (since they pump "as much" oil as Alaska), that bonus payout at $1,100 would be 25,145,561 people x $1,100 = $27,660,117,100 ANNUALLY.

      Keeping apples-to-apples based on the Alaskan amount of money divided over the population of Texas, the per-person bonus to Texans would drop to $29 per person. If oil companies (based on equal drilling volumes) gave a $29 check to every man, woman, and child in Texas, they would be crucified for the insult. It would bring more harm than good.

      It isn't like Alaska is an industrial Mecca. They don't have the tax base to create revenue, so they depend on the stipends to exist.

      • 7 votes
      #3.3 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:47 PM EST

      I always get angry when someone brings up unions. Yes, many unions are corrupt, but there are many out there that are not. Not to mention, I would like to know why ordinary citizens shouldn't have the right for collective bargaining, when those who are the heads of many, many, many corporations put their workers on the bottom rung, and their investors, WHO DO NOTHING BUT PUT IN MONEY, get the profits, which a portion should be used to reward the workers for doing their jobs. Until people are paid an amount they deserve, unions are needed.

      • 12 votes
      #3.4 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:09 PM EST

      Never let jealous, useful idiots get you mad. They're a dime a dozen!

      • 3 votes
      #3.5 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:10 PM EST

      Unions are not people. end union campaign donations.

      • 5 votes
      #3.6 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:10 PM EST

      Phil please stop drinking the cool-aid. Unions had their day. Time to move on

      • 6 votes
      #3.8 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:45 PM EST

      My uncle Jack used to say "I have two below".

      • 2 votes
      #3.9 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:29 PM EST

      Actually Phil: In any other state, your former governor, would call it absolute socialism.

      But in yours, she tried to milk the cow even more.

      class 101 GOP Hypocrisy at it's best.

      Just like those complaining about medicare & crop supports , but receive both. And want a tax cut to boot , and a balanced budget. Obviously, not going to happen.

      • 4 votes
      #3.10 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:35 PM EST

      For those of you that do not know the PFD= (Permanent Fund Dividend )was set up by one of Alaska's greatest governor Jay Hammond.(not sarah) It was set up so that the politicians did not get their grubby little hands on that money an waist it on projects that made money for their friends and for them. This way it goes to the people of the state,(as it should). As the natural resources of the state belong to its people. It is to bad that your governors are grubby greedy little Bass turds and spend spend spend your states natural rescorces for themselves (meaning politicians).

      And to those of you that think the Unions are a thing of the past. I sure hope not . Becauses it seams to me that you all want it to return to the past (some NEVER LEARN) back to the time when people owed their life to the company store. The company owned your house an phone.they owned everything DUH! DO YOU GET IT YET!! And if you dislike unions so much don't join one Try to save for your retirement AK RANDY, the company won't pay you enough to save for one

        #3.11 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:09 PM EST
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        "Anchorage is shivering through one of its coldest January's on record"

        Nice. When in doubt, throw in an apostrophe, eh?

        • 15 votes
        Reply#4 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:32 AM EST

        That's a tough one. What is the plural of "January?" Somehow, Januaries just doesn't look right, but neither does Januarys.

        But it's true that an apostrophe doesn't mean, "Look out - here comes an 's!'"

        • 2 votes
        #4.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:36 AM EST

        Both "Januarys" and "Januaries" are acceptable spellings of the plural, but it seems both the author and editor were not certain, and managed to pick the one option that wasn't correct. I guess a cursory 5-second internet search was a little too much effort.

        • 8 votes
        #4.2 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:43 AM EST

        January's coldest...it's okay guys.

          #4.3 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:59 AM EST

          Everyone uses apostrophes like they were mandatory. I saw a sign painted on a coffe hop window quite q while ago

          "Get good coffee's here." I guess they had extra paint.

          • 4 votes
          #4.4 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:43 PM EST

          Might want to see an optometrist, Optomyst.

          • 4 votes
          #4.5 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:00 PM EST

          The correct spelling is "Januarys." As January is a proper name, it doesn't follow the normal rule about words ending in Y.

          For example, if you were taking about two girls, both named January, you would write, "There are two Januarys in this class."

          • 2 votes
          #4.6 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:03 PM EST

          Plurals and possessives are confusing. Do not drop the "y" and change it to"i" and then add es to words than end in a vowel plus "y" to form the plural; rather, just add "s". Just sayin'!

          • 5 votes
          #4.7 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:11 PM EST

          Januarys'??

          • 1 vote
          #4.8 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:09 PM EST

          Anchorage is shivering through one of its coldest January's on record

          I was so proud of them for getting the "its" correct, then they screwed it all up with "January's."

          Plurals and possessives really aren't confusing or difficult. I think people just get in a hurry... or, for some, never bother to learn the distinction in the first place.

          • 2 votes
          #4.9 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:48 AM EST

          How can people read sentence with word like "coldest" (unary champion of many colder January's) and think plural?

            #4.10 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:07 AM EST
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            They could use some global warming for sure

            • 9 votes
            Reply#5 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:37 AM EST

            Probably not, from what I understand about what global warming would do to the Pacific Current.

            • 3 votes
            #5.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:30 PM EST

            Ummm for all you global warming nay-sayers even NASA believes in global warming...

            http://climate.nasa.gov/keyIndicators/

            • 8 votes
            #5.2 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:01 PM EST

            Climate change!
            RWNJ's take Alaska's record cold as proof there is no such thing as global warming!
            But this just proves climate change is occurring! Record warm AND record cold!
            All messed up!

            • 8 votes
            #5.3 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:08 PM EST

            I believe in GW and mostly I like it (as opposed to global cooling). Everything on Earth changes all the time, especially climate. Adapt or die.

            • 2 votes
            #5.4 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:16 PM EST

            With climate change, most of the human population will probably die.

            What if Gingrich is right about the lunar colony???!!

            • 1 vote
            #5.5 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:05 PM EST

            Silly rabbit, they received ALL the cold!!

            • 3 votes
            #5.6 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:10 PM EST
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            Maybe this cold is why the animals like the snowy owls are moving south this winter. One went to hawaii. Climate change affects the animals & plants & sea life the most. Mr grover, the gop, & the rushbo hardly ever talk about the climate change effects on plants & animals.

            • 5 votes
            Reply#6 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:39 AM EST

            I doubt this particular event is an indication of climate change. Wasn't there an article recently about arctic air masses being released from the pole and heading south? Some years it happens, some years it doesn't.

            • 2 votes
            #6.2 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:32 PM EST

            The lemming population crashed. Lemmings are 90% of the snowy owl diet. The owls are moving south in search of food. Many of the specimens found dead in the lower 48 are emaciated males.

            • 3 votes
            #6.3 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:07 PM EST

            It was actually reported that the lemming population boomed, so these extra owls which resulted from a record survival rate of extra chicks making it to adulthood then over-competed for the following years supply of lemmings, forcing them to fly to extremes in an irruption. Reduction in lemming-pteferred grasees, blamed on GWC, then left this population explosion in need to find expanded ranges.

            But it is mostly speculation due to the lack of access to Artic Tundra's extreme conditions to actually study those wonderful Snowy Owls!

            Snowy owls soar south from Arctic in rare mass migration

            Peace :-)

              #6.4 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:29 AM EST

              is it possible that some snowy owls flew south early because it was too cold in the artic tundra this winter season this year?

                #6.5 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:15 AM EST
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                It's just Earth being herself. Watch out for those people that want to make a profit, trying to make you think otherwise.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#7 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:41 AM EST

                Call the "Bloated One" Al Gore to go up there and give a speech. That should raise the temperature a few degrees. Then stick his head a snow bank until he wakes out of his Global Warming COMA!

                • 10 votes
                Reply#8 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:46 AM EST

                Maybe he'll spot Manbearpig!

                  #8.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:03 PM EST
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                  I hate to be one to confuse weather with climate, BUT they now say it's a mini-ice age. The nice folks in Alaska probably agree.

                  Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

                  Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2093264/Forget-global-warming--Cycle-25-need-worry-NASA-scientists-right-Thames-freezing-again.html#ixzz1kxepOr4M

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#10 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:54 AM EST

                  "Climate is what you expect. Weather is what you get." ---Mark Twain

                  • 7 votes
                  #10.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:01 PM EST

                  "Climate is what you expect. A stupid argument on the internet that has been repeated infinity billion times on every single message board and forum where any article about weather has ever been posted is what you get." --- Me.

                  • 1 vote
                  #10.2 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:56 PM EST

                  @Chris

                  What I quoted is not an argument, it is a witticism, created by (in my opinion) the greatest humorist this country has ever produced. Since you have so little knowledge of (or appreciation for) humor, and you seem to want something original, this is for you:

                  "A buffoon is someone who is ridiculous, yet amusing, such as a clown or a court jester. You almost qualify. As soon as you learn to be amusing, you'll be there." ---denver bill

                  • 8 votes
                  #10.3 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:05 PM EST

                  Here you go Grinspoon.

                  Originally posted by Sharktopussie.

                  http://climate.nasa.gov/keyIndicators/

                  Refute that, if you can.

                  • 1 vote
                  #10.4 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:15 PM EST

                  Calm down, denver bill, that wasn't a shot at you, it was a shot at the futility of arguing about climate change on the internet. Try not to take things so personally, okay sport?

                  • 2 votes
                  #10.5 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:06 PM EST
                  Reply

                  Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

                  • Met Office releases new figures which show no warming in 15 years

                  The supposed 'consensus' on man-made global warming is facing an inconvenient challenge after the release of new temperature data showing the planet has not warmed for the past 15 years.

                  The figures suggest that we could even be heading for a mini ice age to rival the 70-year temperature drop that saw frost fairs held on the Thames in the 17th Century.

                  Based on readings from more than 30,000 measuring stations, the data was issued last week without fanfare by the Met Office and the University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit. It confirms that the rising trend in world temperatures ended in 1997.....

                  The same goes for the impact of the sun – which was highly active for much of the 20th Century.

                  'Nature is about to carry out a very interesting experiment,' he said. 'Ten or 15 years from now, we will be able to determine much better whether the warming of the late 20th Century really was caused by man-made CO2, or by natural variability.'

                  Meanwhile, since the end of last year, world temperatures have fallen by more than half a degree, as the cold 'La Nina' effect has re-emerged in the South Pacific.

                  'We're now well into the second decade of the pause,' said Benny Peiser, director of the Global Warming Policy Foundation. 'If we don't see convincing evidence of global warming by 2015, it will start to become clear whether the models are bunk. And, if they are, the implications for some scientists could be very serious.'

                  Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2093264/Forget-global-warming--Cycle-25-need-worry-NASA-scientists-right-Thames-freezing-again.html#ixzz1ksMp6s3F

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#11 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:58 AM EST

                  If you go to the Met website, they provide a list of reasons why they believe the climate is warming. I didn't see any reference to the report you reference indicating that the earth isn't warming. In fact they show a chart showing an increase of .75 degrees C over the last 10 years.

                  • 1 vote
                  #11.2 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:13 PM EST

                  That's the same CRU behind the Warming data -University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit. - right? Too bad we can't post charts on here.

                  The figures suggest that we could even be heading for a mini ice age to rival the 70-year temperature drop that saw frost fairs held on the Thames in the 17th Century.

                  Based on readings from more than 30,000 measuring stations, the data was issued last week without fanfare by the Met Office and the University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit. It confirms that the rising trend in world temperatures ended in 1997.

                  Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2093264/Forget-global-warming--Cycle-25-need-worry-NASA-scientists-right-Thames-freezing-again.html#ixzz1kxjhId7R

                    #11.3 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:14 PM EST

                    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html#q3

                    I trust NOAA more than anything coming out of a UK website.

                    • 1 vote
                    #11.4 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:22 PM EST

                    Check out that website.

                    I would, but I'm afraid that afterward I might come out mentally retarded.

                    • 1 vote
                    #11.6 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:39 PM EST

                    Ya had me until I saw the link to the Daily Mail.

                    • 1 vote
                    #11.7 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:10 PM EST
                    Reply

                    It's that dang global warming again.

                      Reply#12 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:58 AM EST

                      Minus 62..now that's cold. Its true it's a warmer then normal winter in some parts of the nation..here in the north east it will be 63 degrees February 1st! And I only got a dusting of snow (so far).

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#14 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:03 PM EST

                      40s again in the Midwest, melting the whopping 1" snowpack we had going.

                      • 1 vote
                      #14.2 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:11 PM EST
                      Comment author avatarNicole Briggsvia Facebook

                      Ruken,

                      Alaska is a nice place to visit in the summer. I invite you to come visit the first city, Ketchikan. It's just now warming up after a few weeks of cold temps and snow. It's in the 40's now and the rain, we get a lot of rain, is melting the couple inches of leftover.

                        #14.3 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:33 AM EST
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                        Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

                        • Met Office releases new figures which show no warming in 15 years

                        By David Rose

                        The supposed ‘consensus’ on man-made global warming is facing an inconvenient challenge after the release of new temperature data showing the planet has not warmed for the past 15 years.

                        The figures suggest that we could even be heading for a mini ice age to rival the 70-year temperature drop that saw frost fairs held on the Thames in the 17th Century.

                        Based on readings from more than 30,000 measuring stations, the data was issued last week without fanfare by the Met Office and the University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit. It confirms that the rising trend in world temperatures ended in 1997.

                        Meanwhile, leading climate scientists yesterday told The Mail on Sunday that, after emitting unusually high levels of energy throughout the 20th Century, the sun is now heading towards a ‘grand minimum’ in its output, threatening cold summers, bitter winters and a shortening of the season available for growing food.

                        Solar output goes through 11-year cycles, with high numbers of sunspots seen at their peak.

                        We are now at what should be the peak of what scientists call ‘Cycle 24’ – which is why last week’s solar storm resulted in sightings of the aurora borealis further south than usual. But sunspot numbers are running at less than half those seen during cycle peaks in the 20th Century.

                        Analysis by experts at NASA and the University of Arizona – derived from magnetic-field measurements 120,000 miles beneath the sun’s surface – suggest that Cycle 25, whose peak is due in 2022, will be a great deal weaker still.

                        According to a paper issued last week by the Met Office, there is a 92 per cent chance that both Cycle 25 and those taking place in the following decades will be as weak as, or weaker than, the ‘Dalton minimum’ of 1790 to 1830. In this period, named after the meteorologist John Dalton, average temperatures in parts of Europe fell by 2C.

                        However, it is also possible that the new solar energy slump could be as deep as the ‘Maunder minimum’ (after astronomer Edward Maunder), between 1645 and 1715 in the coldest part of the ‘Little Ice Age’ when, as well as the Thames frost fairs, the canals of Holland froze solid.

                        Yet, in its paper, the Met Office claimed that the consequences now would be negligible – because the impact of the sun on climate is far less than man-made carbon dioxide. Although the sun’s output is likely to decrease until 2100, ‘This would only cause a reduction in global temperatures of 0.08C.’ Peter Stott, one of the authors, said: ‘Our findings suggest a reduction of solar activity to levels not seen in hundreds of years would be insufficient to offset the dominant influence of greenhouse gases.’

                        These findings are fiercely disputed by other solar experts.

                        ‘World temperatures may end up a lot cooler than now for 50 years or more,’ said Henrik Svensmark, director of the Center for Sun-Climate Research at Denmark’s National Space Institute. ‘It will take a long battle to convince some climate scientists that the sun is important. It may well be that the sun is going to demonstrate this on its own, without the need for their help.’

                        He pointed out that, in claiming the effect of the solar minimum would be small, the Met Office was relying on the same computer models that are being undermined by the current pause in global-warming.

                        CO2 levels have continued to rise without interruption and, in 2007, the Met Office claimed that global warming was about to ‘come roaring back’. It said that between 2004 and 2014 there would be an overall increase of 0.3C. In 2009, it predicted that at least three of the years 2009 to 2014 would break the previous temperature record set in 1998.

                        So far there is no sign of any of this happening. But yesterday a Met Office spokesman insisted its models were still valid.

                        ‘The ten-year projection remains groundbreaking science. The period for the original projection is not over yet,’ he said.

                        Dr Nicola Scafetta, of Duke University in North Carolina, is the author of several papers that argue the Met Office climate models show there should have been ‘steady warming from 2000 until now’.

                        ‘If temperatures continue to stay flat or start to cool again, the divergence between the models and recorded data will eventually become so great that the whole scientific community will question the current theories,’ he said.

                        He believes that as the Met Office model attaches much greater significance to CO2 than to the sun, it was bound to conclude that there would not be cooling. ‘The real issue is whether the model itself is accurate,’ Dr Scafetta said. Meanwhile, one of America’s most eminent climate experts, Professor Judith Curry of the Georgia Institute of Technology, said she found the Met Office’s confident prediction of a ‘negligible’ impact difficult to understand.

                        ‘The responsible thing to do would be to accept the fact that the models may have severe shortcomings when it comes to the influence of the sun,’ said Professor Curry. As for the warming pause, she said that many scientists ‘are not surprised’.

                        She argued it is becoming evident that factors other than CO2 play an important role in rising or falling warmth, such as the 60-year water temperature cycles in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans.

                        ‘They have insufficiently been appreciated in terms of global climate,’ said Prof Curry. When both oceans were cold in the past, such as from 1940 to 1970, the climate cooled. The Pacific cycle ‘flipped’ back from warm to cold mode in 2008 and the Atlantic is also thought likely to flip in the next few years .

                        Pal Brekke, senior adviser at the Norwegian Space Centre, said some scientists found the importance of water cycles difficult to accept, because doing so means admitting that the oceans – not CO2 – caused much of the global warming between 1970 and 1997.

                        The same goes for the impact of the sun – which was highly active for much of the 20th Century.

                        ‘Nature is about to carry out a very interesting experiment,’ he said. ‘Ten or 15 years from now, we will be able to determine much better whether the warming of the late 20th Century really was caused by man-made CO2, or by natural variability.’

                        Meanwhile, since the end of last year, world temperatures have fallen by more than half a degree, as the cold ‘La Nina’ effect has re-emerged in the South Pacific.

                        ‘We’re now well into the second decade of the pause,’ said Benny Peiser, director of the Global Warming Policy Foundation. ‘If we don’t see convincing evidence of global warming by 2015, it will start to become clear whether the models are bunk. And, if they are, the implications for some scientists could be very serious.’

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#15 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:13 PM EST

                        http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html#q3

                        Learn your science before spewing second-hand garbage please.

                        • 2 votes
                        #15.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:17 PM EST

                        Ruken... Your cite is a bit old and out dated by new information from the CRU. LOL

                        This page is based on a brief synopsis of the 2007 Fourth Assessment Report (AR4) by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), as well as NCDC's own data resources.

                          #15.2 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:22 PM EST

                          I forgot, science is the work of the devil.

                          Ruken... Your cite is a bit old and out dated by new information from the CRU. LOL

                          So your 4 years (since 2012 doesn't even have a month on the books yet) of additional "data" overrides the previous 30+ years of both atmospheric and satellite gathered data?

                          Hurr hurr.

                          • 1 vote
                          #15.4 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:24 PM EST

                          Yep, more recent is better. There really is a lot out there on the lul in warming. You know that.

                            #15.5 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:35 PM EST

                            Yep, more recent is better. There really is a lot out there on the lul in warming. You know that.

                            I'm not even going to examine your "data". But if you think 4 years is enough time to thwart 30+ years of past data, you're messed up. Nothing I say will change that.

                              #15.6 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:37 PM EST

                              The lull in the warming of the planet is like the lull in the warming of my drink. It will spike again as soon as all the ice melts. Keep an eye on the North West Passage in the coming summers. If ships keep crossing it, that means we're experiencing Global Warming.

                                #15.7 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:16 AM EST
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                                The cold air has stayed north this Winter. Longer days are warming the earth in the Northern Hemisphere, but it's going to take a while to warm that air mass. Normally some cold air comes south, and gets warmed up here.

                                Does this mean a tornado season more northerly this Spring? Science would indicate that, unless the log-jam breaks and the cold air mass comes south in later Winter or very early Spring.

                                  Reply#16 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:18 PM EST

                                  Imagine what the temperature would be without global warming!

                                    #17 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:23 PM EST

                                    Imagine what the world would be like if we had people that could tell the difference between global averages and the temporary weather of a single small region.

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                                    #17.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:28 PM EST

                                    It's been a mild Winter in most of the US - too bad for skiers though. I think I saw where Texas ended its drought. Weather averages into climate. And the data shows no warming for 10 years while the CO2 kept right on climbing. Seems the Sun has something to do with climate too. All those ice ages happened for some reason - and we are due again. They last 100,000 years and we get warm for about 15,000.

                                    Can one of you Warmers explain the large rise in global temps between 1900 and 1940? The IPCC says it was not man or the CO2. What do you say?

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                                    #17.2 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:31 PM EST

                                    What do you say?

                                    I say you're beyond hope.

                                    You can't understand the basic difference between climate and weather, for starters. With such a lack of basic comprehension, it's not worth the time nor effort to appease you. The sad thing is that there are millions more like you, hopelessly deluded.

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                                    #17.3 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:33 PM EST

                                    Like to ignore the facts do you? Can't produce any information or viewpoint. Just call names and make personal attacks. That's what science has become.

                                    Can one of you Warmers explain the large rise in global temps between 1900 and 1940? The IPCC says it was not man or the CO2. What do you say?

                                    That's climate over 40 years and on all the charts the Warmers produce. The IPCC says man is not responsible for any warming before 1970 - read the report. Can't find an answer? Then stow the sarcasm and attacks.

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                                    #17.4 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:44 PM EST

                                    I did post data. Over 30 years of it.

                                    You just lack the basic comprehension to know what climate is, so forgive me for not giving any value to what you said.

                                    You mad about charts? The charts that show proven record levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, while at the same time warming abruptly takes off? You lack not only comprehension of meteorological science, but common sense as well.

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                                    #17.5 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:47 PM EST

                                    Well aware of the Keeling data - exchange emails with the folks on Mauna Loa. Been at this a long time. Your old saw about climate and weather is well understood. You just have nothing to say so you resort to idiocy.

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                                    #17.6 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:11 PM EST

                                    http://climate.nasa.gov/keyIndicators/

                                    Refute that, or must you continue to dwell in your ignorance?

                                    That makes NASA and NOAA, do I need more?

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                                    #17.7 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:16 PM EST

                                    I'm looking at the charts and I see a continuing linear rise in atmospheric CO2, but a peak or leveling of global temperatures which puts into question the accuracy of the global warming models based on human caused CO2 as the primary forcing function.

                                      #17.8 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:29 PM EST

                                      You have to look at the averages. Averages are what make climate.

                                      One could say, "Oh we've had 2 years of cooler temps, global warming must be a lie!" but the truth is we're still far above average. We won't know if it was truly a lie for about 15 more years. But you know the old saying: "Hope for the best, but plan for the worst"?

                                      Time will tell.

                                        #17.9 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:33 PM EST

                                        Yes, CO2 is increasing rapidly. But, there is a lot of data showing the climate in the last 10 years has been steady. Now, look back a little farther to the 1900 to 1940 period. The slope of the temperature rise is the same as your data shows since 1970. So, it's not all about CO2 as the IPCC (and now the CRU) says.

                                        Interesting, although you probably wont understand it. If you take the Keeling data for a given month and normalize the plot - you get a curve matching the global temperature data. A measurement of CO2 on a volcano in Hawaii gives a pretty close match to all those temp and satellite measurements of actual temperature. Now the interesting part is that volcanoes (like Pinatubo) change global temperature but are unassociated with CO2 variations - more ash and sulphur caused. So, these CO2 variations are caused by temperature variations. And look carefully at the monthly CO2 of the Keeling data - shows the variation of temperature month by month yearly cycle.

                                        You got no answers.

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                                        #17.10 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:35 PM EST

                                        You got no answers.

                                        I got much more than you.

                                        Link me this "data", lest you look like you keep spilling bullsh*t.

                                        (This is going to be good. I can't wait to see data contradicting NASA)

                                          #17.11 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:37 PM EST

                                          I started out reading Spencer's stuff. Many others out there now as you know - including the new CRU report.

                                          http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/

                                          You may reject any source you disagree with, but your NASA is not without bias. Many careers depend on keeping the warming scare going. Sorry you are dedicated to warming and reject anything that doesn't fit your disposition. I have studied it for sometime and see points on both sides. As Prof Muller says, extrodinary science conclusions demand extrodinary proof. There is no proof - only fear mongering. I see no progress made or planned to change any CO2 results in the world. China, India, and the US have not limited anything and never will. Those represent the bulk of people on this planet.

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                                          #17.12 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:01 PM EST

                                          Yea, another non-credible resource.

                                          You had better luck with your "Daily Mail".

                                          Try again.

                                            #17.13 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:25 PM EST

                                            No need. You have not given any response to the question I asked your learnedness. Matter of fact you have supplied nothing to this thread but denial.

                                            You got nothing but your head in the sand. And I phrased that politely. Your mind is closed and empty and pretty apt to stay that way. LOL

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                                            #17.14 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:17 PM EST

                                            If we look at the paper from Livingston and Penn, we can see that the magnetic field of the sun has been decreasing by 77 gauss per year from 1990 - 2005. It suggests that few sunspots will be visible after 2015. The fewer sunspots; the less radiation that the sun outputs.

                                            The sunspots were at a maximum in 2001 that would have been when the maximum amount of solar radiation would have been output.

                                            I expect colder winters for as long as the sunspot remain at a minimum.

                                            http://www.probeinternational.org/livingston-penn-2008.pdf

                                            We have observed spectroscopic changes in temperature sensitive molecular lines, in the magnetic splitting of an Fe I line, and in the continuum brightness of over 1000 sunspot umbrae from 1990-2005. All three measurements show consistent trends in which the darkest parts of the sunspot umbra have become warmer (45K per year) and their magnetic field strengths have decreased (77 Gauss per year), independently of the normal 11-year sunspot cycle. A linear extrapolation of these trends suggests that few sunspots will be visible after 2015.

                                              #17.15 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:24 PM EST

                                              Thank you all for the links. Here's my favorite for staying up to date on sunspot activity.

                                              SpaceWeather.com -- News and information about meteor showers, solar flares, auroras, and near-Earth asteroids

                                              I don't believe Dr. Spencer is allowing for the apparent and illusory dampening effect that melting sea Ice is having on positive feedback. As soon as we see a summer when all the sea ice melts There will be a huge spike in global temperature. The sun is getting more heat in, the green house effect is letting less heat out. The extra heat is being soaked up by melting ice. But only until the ice is all gone.

                                                #17.16 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:16 AM EST
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                                                Why is nobody in the gop is talking about climate. Not even romney or gingrich. Ron paul says he believes climate change is real and caused by co2 like the scientist say. But all i do is google 'climate change sea life' and get 79M hits to read. Change sea life to plants for 99M more.

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                                                Reply#18 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:29 PM EST

                                                You're wondering why the GOP won't discuss something based on science and not the Bible?

                                                Kudos to Ron Paul for taking a stance, however.

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                                                #18.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:42 PM EST

                                                Climate Change is just a theory, like Evolution...or Gravity.

                                                The GOP isn't interested in theory, just facts. Facts which can be altered, to suit today's audience.

                                                  #18.2 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:25 AM EST
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                                                  It's f***in' cold. Last cold spell like this was 1989. I was at Eielson AFB, bottomed out at -63*F on January 30. Fairbanks hit -51*F. It hit 40 below or colder for 10 days and I don't know if it got warmer than -20*F.

                                                  Makes good stories but I've got no desire to go back.

                                                    Reply#19 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:50 PM EST

                                                    B-u-r-r-r !!

                                                      Reply#20 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:50 PM EST
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                                                      OMG!!!! As a child in the early 50's I lived in Massachusetts in cape house. There was no heat piped up to the 2nd floor (the eaves, as we called it) so it was not uncommon for me to wake up to 0 degrees upstairs or less. For my siblings and me it was a race to the radiator in the kitchen to get dressed before school because my Dad always turned off the gas in the house at night no matter WHAT the temp was outside.

                                                      But 68 degrees below freezing?

                                                      I now live in Florida-the land of frizzy hair, transients, and warmth.

                                                      Works for me.

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                                                      Reply#22 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:07 PM EST

                                                      Why the heck are they even trying to do sled dog races when it is so cold? Human ego I guess, justifies any cruelty to animals, the planet and often fellow humans.

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                                                      Reply#23 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:16 PM EST

                                                      It's called tradition- maybe you've heard of it.

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                                                      #23.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:49 PM EST
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                                                      Okay now that's just too cold....

                                                        Reply#24 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:18 PM EST

                                                        That's what I'm saying...

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                                                        #24.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:56 PM EST
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                                                        What happened after the last Ice Age? Global Warming.

                                                        What happened after the one previous to the last one? Global Warming.

                                                        What is going to happen after the next Ice Age? Global Warming.

                                                          Reply#25 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:33 PM EST

                                                          That's funny, because now we're warming and we aren't even in an Ice Age.

                                                          C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!

                                                            #25.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:36 PM EST

                                                            Right - we are at the end of this 15,000 year warming (all civilization) and due for the next 100,000 years of ice. The data shows the cooling (and the warming) are rapid - a hundred years or so. Now we have enough energy to keep us from freezing, but growing food might be a bit of a problem. Will the extra 6 billion humans please get off the planet?

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                                                            #25.2 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:44 PM EST

                                                            The Daily Mail tell you this too?

                                                              #25.3 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:26 PM EST

                                                              Ruken et tu Global Warming agrumentum ad ignoratam? Theorem Milankovitch veritates est!

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                                                              #25.4 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:14 PM EST

                                                              Grinspoon97

                                                              Energy might not be as a big a problem as we might think. Have you looked into the highly successful 30,000 ft deep petroleum wells that Russia have? Just as interesting is the theory Russian science has as to why petroleum is found at 30,000 feet below the surface.

                                                                #25.5 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:10 PM EST
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                                                                  Reply#26 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:35 PM EST

                                                                  Well, my family lives in Anchorage and my father passed away on January 4th. I went to Alaska during the winter for the first time ever, and don't plan on doing it ever again.

                                                                  However, the summers make up for the crappy winters... it really is the most beautiful place in the world... underneath the 12 feet of snow, that is :)

                                                                    Reply#27 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:37 PM EST

                                                                    Re: article: it is not "January's". See ". . . its coldest January's on record . . . ". Januaries is correct.

                                                                    Please people everywhere - the apostrophes are for possessives, not for plurals. All over the Internet we are seeing this. Family names, i.e. the Blob's when it should be the Blobs, etc. The shop's instead of shops, and so forth. Why make plurals harder, which is what people are doing. The rampant apostrophes in plurals are crazy lately.

                                                                    It's instead of its, (its being actually done correctly in the above article), is a contraction for IT IS, but everywhere is used incorrectly. Its without the apostrophe is the possessive. The dog scratched its fleas. Not the dog scratched it's fleas. That would mean the dog scratched it is fleas.

                                                                    Where are the English teachers anymore?

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                                                                    #27.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:05 PM EST

                                                                    So much for the better smarter Journalists and their followers.

                                                                      #27.2 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:11 PM EST
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                                                                      Why did a thread about the weather turn into a political debate? I've lived in Illinois for 32 years and was here when we set our all time record low which was -27F. With wind chill it was like -80F. I can't imagine having to function in that weather. Leave the politics alone for a while - - many people are displaying their igornance on both sides.

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                                                                      Reply#28 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:55 PM EST

                                                                      Looks like the Ice Fog monster has been paying frequent visits judging from that photo. The meter looks like its coated with rime ice.

                                                                      Annoying, but pretty at night. All the streetlights look like giant light sabers. :)

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                                                                      Reply#29 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:10 PM EST
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