Man, that guy couldn't have possibly screwed himself any harder. An illegal immigrant killing a nun? It sounds like a punchline to a joke that Bill O'Reilly would tell.

The better question is: why was he free to do this while he was already awaiting deportation? If he was already slated to be deported, why was he not in custody already?

All told it was worth it. A few nuns here and there is a mere pittance to pay when cheap vegetables and meatpacking labor is on the line. Not sure how many nuns it takes dying to make it worth stopping illegal immigration, but one ain't it.

Robtzu, seriously callous there partner. I can appreciate sarcasm as much as the next guy, but using the words illegal immigration is just hurtful. Maybe you could rephrase that and have it go something like "...an unfortunate undocumented worker who is tragically addicted to alcohol was brutalized twice, once by the post traumatic stress of an accident caused by the callous disregard for safety by not having warnings on alcoholic beverages in three languages and a second time by being sentenced to a cruel and unusual prison term for being a victim of a disease." How's that read...a little gentler?

Hey, U.S. Congress ----- be implemented as soon as possible. First; The Federal Government needs to PLACE A BOUNTY on illegals in this country. Second; There needs to be a revision to our laws allowing, no, demanding, that illegals are to be deported within SEVEN DAYS. In the meantime, they have to be held in "holding facilities" in the southern border states. Facilities such as the TENT CITY in Maricopa County, Arizona would do nicely. There are no "comfort" amenities there. Third; MOST SEVERE PENALITIES have to be given to those who hire illegals including crushing monetary fines and MANDATORY IMPRISONMENT IN A FEDERAL FICILITY for those who hire the illegals. Special courts and judges, designated to handle the hearings for the illegals, would be designated to do so in a very rapid manner and to serve EXCLUSIVELY in that capacity. Anything less will not suffice. Efforts so far have not wrked particularly well, if at all. Finally, our country needs an administration that will promote and enforce the strictes of measures. This is not draconian. It is simply the result of our immigration laws being ignored by a multitude of parties. This simply has to change, AND NOW !

If you stop and realize how this series of events transpired. And just what goes through the minds of these illegal interlopers, then you will come to the OBVIOUS reason I came too! These people who come to this country illegally and manage to stay longer and longer, have it in their minds that they must be able to get away with just about any GOD DAMN THING they want and NOT have to worry about a thing! Even being Prosecuted and jailed.

As long as your God Damn foot dragging Federal and State governments continue to powder the asses of these " Immigrants" as the news media calls them, the more and more they reenforce the idea in their own minds that they can do just as they damn please because there will be NO consequences or at the very least, they will be able to run from any consequences because our government refuses to do its job the job American citizens want fulfilled. Seal the border; Prosecute ALL illegal activity involved with entering this country illegally as a FELONY; Detain illegals and deport after trial and prison. Send a strong message and this crap will stop. Continue to coddle them and you politicians can all start looking for new jobs.

You are all overlooking the obvious, which is that the man now has free room and board for 20 years at the expense of the US taxpayer. If he had been deported after the first offense, the nun might still be alive and taxpayers would not have to foot the bill.

Amen brother!

It is positively despicable that our leaders (including both the Executive Branch and Members of Congress going back to the 90s) have REFUSED to enforce our immigration laws to extent necessary to rid this country of ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS. Our leadership’s failure to enforce our immigration laws is the BUT FOR cause of this horrific tragedy. Americans across the political spectrum DEMAND enforcement of our immigration laws!

This will be a huge issue in Election 2012, as Americans are FED UP. Those leaders (including the current Administration) who advocate for amnesty for immigration lawbreakers will LOSE BIG TIME. Americans get it, and we are FED UP with our leadership's pandering to the immigration lawbreakers and their insufferable advocates!

A GOVERNMENT WHICH REFUSES TO ENFORCE ITS OWN LAWS IS INTOLERABLE!!!!

@ RTcolorado

You are right, my apologies.

Patience , Obama is going down in 2012, we , the American people are not fools any longer ! Vote Republican in 2012, to get us back to work !!!!

And who put you out of work in the 1st place?? Not Obama......

And why is Obama's illegal Uncle and Aunt still here? Send them all back to Kenya.

How does Obama have ANYTHING to do with this? "Where is our federal government" my ass. I thought you all wanted SMALLER federal government. Apparently, you want small government, except when it comes to drugs, alcohol, religion, women's health, minorities, homosexuals, and the poor. But corrupt corporations and banks? That's just "free market" and "capitalism" at its finest, eh?

I'm sorry, but Obama's not going anywhere in 2012 until you Republicans, or any other party, can come up with a candidate who isn't a complete joke of a human being. If you ask me, some of the current candidates are guilty of crimes just as bad as this guy, if not worse, and deserve to be deported as well. Seriously, I'm embarrassed for your party, and you should be ashamed for yourselves. What a disgrace.

Yeah, Obama has increased the number of officers on the border, how dare he. We don't want that, we want a smaller government, less border patrol, less taxes.

history teacher-2579848

Where is our federal government? Obaminable has made everything political, and has removed truth and justice from the land. OMG = Obaminable must go.

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I thought Repugnanticans wanted LESS government. But, your post mimics the thought pattern of the entire Repugnantican party. You too are a flip-flop artist. Just like the newt and the romney.

Well, I bet they're a little gun-shy after booting a 15-year-old American citizen all the way to Colombia just because they didn't bother to check out the fake name she gave them. Due diligence is worth the effort every time, trust me.

I'd rather have us make the mistake of sending them away, then make the mistake of keeping them here. Last weekend an illegal was drunk and crashed into my car and broke my arm. Funny thing is he also had a prior DUI (AND no insurance obviously, AND tried to flee the scene). He should have been long gone by now. Get em outta here ASAP.

Guilty till proven innocent, Can't wait for that one to creep up. Locked out in another city and lost your wallet. Can't prove you live hear right now. See ya

Twisted;

"Locked out in another city and can't prove you are here legally", if you are an American citizen and can not prove who you are you can be held until they verify that fact. If you are a frigging Mex here illegally why should it be any different?

Arrest

Detain

Deport

That should be the ONLY policy, I agree our system is broken and it will not be 'fixed' until we do all three of the things listed above.

choppertroy

I hope you exhaust all legal options to make sure this individual pays, especially if he used his employer's vehicle. They need to be held accountable. Do not pay anything out of pocket and insist your insurance company recover costs for your injuries. If you can't get anything from the illegal and/or employer, most states have victim's funds that would pay medical bills etc. as you are a victim of a violent crime.

Too many people do not pursue legal options because "it's too much trouble". I hope you don't like getting walked on or in this case, getting your arm broken.

Harold...

I don't see them as a threat. They're here illegally. They broke our laws when they came across the border without authority or authorization.

Oh, and they DO take jobs from American citizens, because the citizens can't work for the wages the illegals living 20, 30, 40 or more in a townhouse sharing expenses are willing to accept.

But yes, I'll agree that both sides like the illegals. Republicans and businesses for cheap labor, and Democrats for potential voters. So, the American citizen is screwed either way by the political system.

Harold

Here is something you should read.

"The statistics are actually a little deceptive, because what we’ve been doing is, with the stronger border enforcement, we’ve been apprehending folks at the borders and sending them back,” Mr. Obama said in an online discussion at the White House with Latino journalists. “That is counted as a deportation even though they may have only been held for a day, or 48 hours, sent back. That’s counted as a deportation.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/sep/28/obama-defends-his-administrations-handling-of-ille/?page=all

Sean

OK. How about this?

"The statistics are actually a little deceptive," Obama said last month during a discussion with Hispanic journalists. There has been "a much greater emphasis on criminals than non-criminals." And "with stronger border enforcement, we've been apprehending folks at the borders and sending them back. That is counted as a deportation even though they may have only been held for a day or 48 hours."

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-10-19/politics/politics_deportation-record_1_ice-director-john-morton-undocumented-immigrants-criminal-alien-program?_s=PM:POLITICS

BTW. Notice the QUOTE MARKS. These are Obama's words.

Now is CNN an acceptable NEWS SOURCE for you?? Or would you prefer Huffington Post?? Of course you won't find any article that could cast dispersions on Obama on that web site.

Oh, and they DO take jobs from American citizens, because the citizens can't work for the wages the illegals living 20, 30, 40 or more in a townhouse sharing expenses are willing to accept.

That's not the immigrants taking jobs from anyone. That's lazy, entitled Americans giving away their jobs because the work is "too hard" or "too demeaning" and the pay is "too low". That's greedy corporations who look the other way when they should be doing background checks. Taking jobs, taking taxpayer money, destroying the economy? We need only look at ourselves--stop blaming the immigrants for taking advantage of a pretty nice situation that our laziness and greed has created for them.

You can deport them all you want. But trust me, until the people who hire the immigrants change their policies, they'll keep on coming.

Sean

So when Obama changes how deportations are counted makes the numbers "a little deceptive" that is OK?

You guys are completely missing the point--- the point is not Democratic leadership (panderers to the immigration lawbreakers and their advocates) or Republican leadership (pandering to the Chamber of Commerce's interest in depressing wages)--- both groups have refused to enforce our laws to the extent necessary. However, now I see the Democratic leadership as a bigger problem because they are actively promoting rewards for immigration lawbreaking--- a concept that is UNACCEPTABLE to fair-minded American voters! They will pay the price on the evening of Election 2012!

An eye for an eye, makes the whole world blind!

but safer...less crowded in jails and world....

No thanks, that would almost be like reading the Bible. Except, instead of an old book that no longer says what it originally did and may or may not be pure fiction, the Constitution is an old document that's becoming less suitable for today's world with every sunrise.

Because he wasn't in prison where he should've been.

Maybe you should call ICE yourself. If that doesn't work, get him drunk and take him for a beer run down to Maricopa County.

But for a church that is always complaining about being unfairly attacked, why is horror for killing a nun worse than killing anyone?

Unless you are reading something from a different article or I'm just completely missing it, where does the church say anything about the deaths? If it was a mother that was killed the article would go over her history as well, including any bit about her family and the tragic loss. The fact that these women where nuns serves only to let people know about the human life lost and who they where. Personally I would rather be emotional and sentimental then impassive and apathetic.

In the state of Maryland if you are convicted of driving under the influence (.06) you get 5 years in prison, even if you are a 16 year old kid. Driving while intoxicated (.08) you get even more time. I LOVE their law and think every state should adopt the same policy and laws.

No. Society has every right to protect itself. If the two prior DUIs didn't get the message across to him, there's no reason to believe that this incident will. But really, are you serious?

That's what I thought, seriously? That's his third DUI - the 3rd time he was caught doing it. This guy isn't ever going to stop doing it - he needs to be put away permanently so he doesn't kill someone else.

Perhaps Chirs150, since he's seen the errors of his ways, he can drive you and your family around town, everywhere you need to go - would you want to let him drive your family, or be driving in another car near your family's car?

The relevance is this--- if our government had only enforced its immigration laws, this accident never would have happened! The failure to enforce our immigration laws has EVERYTHING to do with this accident!

Any crime being committed while committing another crime should be a multiplier in terms of penalty. For example: rob a convenience store = penalty A

rob a convenience store with a weapon = penalty B

rob a convenience store with a weapon and cause injury or take a hostage = penalty C

Most states already have laws to escalate penalties so a first time offender who steals a candy bar when they are drunk or stoned simply get misdemeanor theft. Add a gun and it becomes a felony in aggravated robbery or theft.

Illegal aliens should be charged the same way. Illegal crossing, auto deportation. committing a crime once you arrive (including transportation of drugs,money, humans or contraband over the border), mandatory jail time as a military POW and return to the custody of your government at the end of your term.