Truly sad for everybody that reads this or heard about it. Twin boys...must have been cute little fellows....

Cant imagine anything more sad than this! Moms out there need to stop the habit of sleeping with small children, one unintentional move (because you are unconscious during sleep) and your baby's dead....

Always think before you act (no matter how cute your little one is...put them on their crib!!!!), it could save your child's life.

For those who didnt read the comments from the actual Idaho Journal Newspaper here is one of them.

And on a side note - Newborns benefit greatly from sleeping with their parents so long as no drugs or alcohol is used in the process. For most of us that is obvious. For others god help them and their children always!

Here is the comment from the Idaho Journal.

Accidental.....cause they couldn't find any signs of force.. Two possibilities come into play.. Her continued history of drug abuse; currently linked to why she doesn't have her children that are still alive, being so high she rolled over and wasn't aware she was on not one but two babies. Or the fact that she had a fight with said father the night before and mentioned that if he wouldn't be the father she didn't want anyone to be the father and she maliciously knew that she could get away with murder if it was found to be "accidental". The said father was there for the birth and was inconsistantly there after, hence the fighting, and it was then determined through a paternity test that he wasn't the father. She then proceeded to get high, fight, and as previously mentioned; not want for anyone but him to be their father and he didn't.. He walked out knowing what she was capable of; murder. It has been said that she has always mentioned that she could get away with the perfect murder. Well congrats you did..These precious souls died in vain. I could see maybe one child but two; really, who seriously wouldn't know that they are laying on 2 babies. I wish they woul

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What you posted is just a user comment from the original story and no where can I find mention of any of this by the authorities. Are you really one of those people who believe everything you read, hear, and see? If she were a drug abuser she wouldn't have had physical custody of those babies. When a woman gives birth her blood and urine are tested for the presence of drugs. If drugs are found they take your baby away and you go home from the hospital empty handed. As with all user comments, if you don't link your information or give credible evidence then it is simply heresay and an opinion motivated by hate, racism, or jealousy.

That is in fact FALSE that all woman are drug tested when they give birth. I've never been drug tested and have had 3 babies.

And on a side note - Newborns benefit greatly from sleeping with their parents so long as no drugs or alcohol is used in the process.

I guess you know better than the experts, huh? Kim Quick, the coroner, is presumably a physician and I'd prefer to listen to HER than to some devotee of the hippie-dippie attachment parenting movement. You can certainly have the baby in your room, even in a cradle next to your bed, but you have no business sleeping with the baby.

I once slept thorough a major fight in my own house between a housemate, his fiance, and his ex-girlfriend. The police were there and the dog was barking, so I was told, yet I slept right through it. This happened early in the morning. Later everyone apologized to me for the ruckus and couldn't believe me when I told them I had absolutely no idea what they were talking about. No, I hadn't been drinking, smoking pot, or even taking medication the night before. It's just the way I sleep. I don't know if this is due to childhood issues (I grew up in a rather chaotic, alcoholic home) or just my neurology, but this is normal for me. So could I have rolled over onto one of my children if I had been stupid enough to sleep with them? Of course. You are not some paleolithic mama with no alternatives. Please don't sleep in the same bed with the baby. As long as he gets plenty of cuddling when you're awake, he'll be fine.

When a woman gives birth her blood and urine are tested for the presence of drugs.

No, they don't normally test for drugs unless they have an actual reason to think you are on drugs. Those lab tests, when done, are for bona fide medical reasons to make sure you are okay. However, it's all irrelevant to this case. I'm sure she WAS tested after this incident.

Sleeping with an infant is perfectly acceptable in many countries and I slept with mine and also breastfed her which is also the perfect thing to do, some Americans have a narrow point of view when it comes to what is natural for a mother and baby. What this woman did is not natural ! And if people want to sleep w their babies they shouldn't be judged.

Lisa, a lot of things are natural but that doesn't make them perfectly safe. It's natural to live in caves or grass huts, dress in animal skins and eat mastodon steaks. And you're contradicting yourself. If it's natural to sleep with your kids, then what this woman did was perfectly natural. That it led to tragedy is also perfectly natural. Babies have been accidentally suffocated since the beginning of time. It's only in the 20th century that it became reasonable to assume that all of your children would reach adulthood. Prior to that, MOST people lost a child or two, usually before the age of 5.

They don't have to drug test the Mother. They do blood work on the baby. If drugs were in the baby's blood sample, the Police were called.

Why, thank you

Agreed... those two are idiots. As men, of course they would criticize the mother!

And to be proud of being an ass just makes you more of an ass. Your welcome, ass.

Gee Keith you really popular today.Tell me where do you get such a sparkling personality?

His mom probably slept with him as a baby. Only instead of death it caused brain damage due to oxygen deprivation.

Karen - please don't throw that blanket over all men. It's not fair and borders on sexist. In that the mother was the only one there, one would have to presume that she bears the responsibility for this seemingly terrible accident. But, as others have posted, TWO babies being accidentally suffocated seems suspicious. And I, for one see no evidence that Reasonable22 is a man. Keith may be an ass with such a comment, and I disagree with Resonable22's statement as well. And I am a man.

Sympathy for mommy dearest? You think? Tragedy? Yes! Brains? Lack of brains is usually not a crime... but, there are exceptions to that.

If there is no crib, or not affordable, no babies, nor even toddlers, should be put into an adult bed, whether or not with an adult sleeping there also. For newborns even a carefully placed firm pillow in a dresser drawer which is pulled out and set on a safe surface would be safer if an emergency...

Newborns do not turn over. And placing newborns on their stomachs amid large, loose bedding is unconscionable. If on their backs it is no less dangerous. Loose sheets and heavy full-sized blankets are built-in lethal for tiny little new born twins. Think of twins' birth weights each ... seriously.

In this day and age baby sleepers or cribs are the first things new parents buy ... and they have nine months to save up for it.

These babies' deaths go beyond the parents' stupidity. It is, in my book, criminal. And I think mommy dearest and daddy-o should be charged with double homicide. Accidental? Sure, even then. When a death occurs as a result of avoidable accident it is very definitely a homicide in most jurisdictions. Jail time is an in-depth learning experience.

It might have a deterrent effect not only on this couple, but on other women who even think doing this sort of thing is OK.

Actually, while what Keith said was cruel, and I'm sure his intentions were to be a jerk, what was said might not be so far off. Co-sleeping has been going on for ages, and has actually been shown to have health benefits for babies, despite what this article states. Studies have shown that the babies mimic the breathing of their mothers when they sleep with them, and because of this it helps to reduce the incidences of SIDS. Babies die all on there own in cribs more often than they do from Co-sleeping. They suffocate in blankets, and can suffocate from sleeping on their stomachs. Co-sleeping is safer than putting a baby in another room in a crib.

However there are instances where co-sleeping shouldn't be done, and that is if the mother or FATHER is overweight, or has been drinking, or using drugs, medicines, etc. Of course, a woman who has just given birth may not be "fat," but just hasn't lost the weight from her pregnancy yet. An overweight mother or FATHER, or one who is under the influence of something, or who smokes, is more likely to suffocate their babies by rolling onto them. In those cases, they make these special little beds that you can put on your bed so you can't roll onto your babies. Or there is a special type of bassinette that sits next to your bed, but it is flat with your bed, so you can't roll onto your baby but they are right next to you. These types of devices should be used by people who are overweight, smoke, or are under the influence until the baby is bigger before those parents co-sleep. As an infant, I kept my daughter in a stroller that had one of those carriers attached to it. She was very tiny only 6 lbs. Then when she was bigger she slept

This is a very sad accident that could have been avoided if the mother had only known about or used one of these devices until the babies were bigger, then co-slept.

Wow--how far have we come from our roots, that now a mother can't sleep with her infant beside her? This is how humans have been doing it since the world began. My daughters slept beside me when they were babies. I was exquisitely aware of them even when I was asleep. The baby stirred, I woke up. There is no way I could have rolled over and smothered my child. No. Way.

My babies slept beside me not because I was lazy or uninformed or didn't care about their survival. They slept beside me because there was NOTHING in this blessed world I cared about more than their survival. I read the statistics. I studied the reports. Like Melinda Kabat says above, the biggest danger to an infant is dying of SIDS, which almost exclusively happens when the baby is in a crib alone. I was not about to leave a precious, helpless, vulnerable being that I loved, alone in an empty crib in another room, where I wouldn't be aware of her every move, her every need, her every breath.

I find this news story more than a little odd. Roll over and smother your baby and not notice? I couldn't have done it. No matter how exhausted. It makes me wonder...was she impaired in some way, perhaps by alcohol or drugs? Was there a medical condition? But--okay--I see it happens. Maybe a lot of women are deeper sleepers than I am. Alright. But to do it twice in one night? "Accidentally" smother both your twins? I just can't buy it. It just doesn't ring true. That's my opinion.

Okay, then I'm an idiot and proud of it. I find it suspicious that two twin boys died of "suffocation" instead of one. Usually in an accident, only one dies of suffocation. I am basing this on a thing that happened with my German Shepherd's mom. When she rolled over on the pups, she only smothered one of them. How is it that if the mother of the twins rolled over on both of them, also, and the pressure from the one child on the other did not cause marks of any kind? People, something is fishy here. I think this is a murder, and the "parent" got away with it because there is rarely evidence in a smothring death to the contrary of an accident.

Wow--how far have we come from our roots, that now a mother can't sleep with her infant beside her? This is how humans have been doing it since the world began. My daughters slept beside me when they were babies. I was exquisitely aware of them even when I was asleep. The baby stirred, I woke up. There is no way I could have rolled over and smothered my child. No. Way.

My babies slept beside me not because I was lazy or uninformed or didn't care about their survival. They slept beside me because there was NOTHING in this blessed world I cared about more than their survival. I read the statistics. I studied the reports. Like Melinda Kabat says above, the biggest danger to an infant is dying of SIDS, which almost exclusively happens when the baby is in a crib alone. I was not about to leave a precious, helpless, vulnerable being that I loved, alone in an empty crib in another room, where I wouldn't be aware of her every move, her every need, her every breath.

I find this news story more than a little odd. Roll over and smother your baby and not notice? I couldn't have done it. No matter how exhausted. It makes me wonder...was she impaired in some way, perhaps by alcohol or drugs? Was there a medical condition? But--okay--I see it happens. Maybe a lot of women are deeper sleepers than I am. Alright. But to do it twice in one night? "Accidentally" smother both your twins? I just can't buy it. It just doesn't ring true. That's my opinion.

If there is no crib, or not affordable, no babies, nor even toddlers, should be put into an adult bed, whether or not with an adult sleeping there also. For newborns even a carefully placed firm pillow in a dresser drawer which is pulled out and set on a safe surface would be safer if an emergency...

That is exactly what the nurses told me when I explained that I didn't have a crib. Or even a cardboard box lined with towels would be better than nothing. (My mother did buy me a crib, and a nice one, while I was still in the hospital so I was never forced into those alternatives.) OTOH, it is ridiculous to charge the mother in this case because she was obviously influenced by that wacko "attachment parenting" philosophy and didn't know any better.

As for the idea that you can't smother two babies because a German Shepherd bitch only smothered ONE puppy, well all I can say is HUH?!? Each situation is different even with human beings, let alone a DOG.

Do you good folks all think you know more than the coroner, a DOCTOR, who already ruled it an accident?

I was not about to leave a precious, helpless, vulnerable being that I loved, alone in an empty crib in another room

Who says the crib or cradle has to be in another room? It can be right next to your bed, even if you have to move other furniture out of your room.

Wow--how far have we come from our roots, that now a mother can't sleep with her infant beside her? This is how humans have been doing it since the world began.

Yep, but there are undoubtably a lot of things cave people did that we wouldn't necessarily do today.

My first child's pediatrician was horrified when I asked if cosleeping was okay. And before you make assumptions, she was a woman from India, where this is probably a lot more common than here. She had probably seen plenty of cases of smothering. Actually you don't even have to roll over on the baby. An adult bed is usually softer and has several heavy blankets, etc. It would be the easiest thing in the world for the baby to smother. Also, what about the effect of the family bed on your husband, who needs his sleep as he is probably the sole support of the family while you are on maternity leave, or not working outside the home at all? As the baby gets older the family bed becomes an even bigger problem for reasons that should be obvious. The BEST thing you can do for your children is to maintain a healthy marriage. It is infinitely more important than a silly hippie fad.

I've shared my home with a lot of people from third world countries, and I happen to know that cradles go back thousands of years, too.

When time began we didn't have beds or big fat fluffy comforters and twenty pillows. When time began was a lot different than how time is now. I've also heard people say tribal people in africa sleep safely with their babies and again, they don't have a miracle bed with a six inch thick down comforter on top of it. It's not safe to sleep with your baby under those circumstances, no amount of "Well I did it and my baby is fine!" is going to change that. If you did it you are a fool, plain and simple.

It probably would be okay to sleep sitting up, wrapped in a bearskin rug, with your baby to keep him warm?????

Dear Lord that is so tragic. That poor mother is going to blame herself for the rest of her life. I don't think I could live with that much guilt.

Now my two cents. I am pro co-sleeping. I did a lot of research before I did it and studies confict, but many studies and experts say co sleeping actually reduces SIDS risk. The key is to be as safe as possible. Many "western" mattresses are 2 feet high and too soft, and Americans like to use 50 pillows and blankets. And not to be mean, but many Americans are obese. Not only is this more dangerous because of the higher risk of accidental smothering, but many obese people have sleep apnea which will decrease their ability to respond to the baby. In Asia and Africa, almost all mothers co sleep and the incidence of death is very low. SIDS rate is also MUCH lower than in the U.S.

For me it was actually a terrifying experience that made me co sleep. At first my newborn slept in his bassinet. I was always exhausted from him waking up constantly because he HATED sleeping on his back and his side. One night he woke up and because I didn't want to disturb daddy, I sat on the sofa to nurse him. I was so exhausted that I fell asleep sitting up on the sofa, and when I woke up he was asleep but he had rolled halfway off my lap. His body was contorted and he was almost face down in the sofa cushion. Talk about freaking out! To this day I think some divine force woke me up.

Anway, I couldn't take it anymore and decided to co-sleep. We removed most of the pillows from the bed (and all the pillows from my side) and I didn't even really use a blanket on my side. And even though he was still on his back, which he usually hated, he slept like a rock because he knew I was near him. I also slept much better in general, and I was easily awakened if he moved because I was finally getting enough rest. I asked his ped about it and expected to be chewed out. Instead he was actually supportive and told me how to do it as safely as possible if this is what i was going to do, but I was already doing it safely. I also didn't allow him to co-sleep with anyone else..not even daddy. My male doctor told me that only mothers are in tune enough with a baby to do it safely. You also should NEVER do it if you have been drinking or are sleep deprived, or if you are a smoker.

The bottom line is that there are risks no matter what. Many babies who sleep on their own die from SIDS or from getting trapped in unsafe cribs. Many studies say the SIDS rate in cribs is much higher compared to co-slepping. Many babies that co sleep die because their parents smoked or were under the influence before they went to sleep. And sometimes it's just a freak accident. I don't blame this mother. You just can't eliminate all risk. But I have to ask...how on earth did TWO babies suffocate????!!

DLux...

I can provide you many numbers of studies and researchers which say, unequivocally, you are wrong, dead wrong.

Further, there is one more specialty you do not appear to be in touch with: Common sense.

It worked for me and my five kids.

Well Hearts, I can provide you with many studies that say I am right. I also specifically said that the studies CONFLICT. It is also a fact the women in Asia and Africa have been co-sleeping since the beginning of time and there is a very low death rate. What I did worked for me and my now healthy and happy, straight A student. I also never said I specialized in anything. I researched and discussed with a doctor, which I am pretty sure you are not.

The U.S. has one of the highest SIDS rate in the world. I think we are in second place. The majority of Japanese co-sleep and their SIDS rate is MUCH lower than ours. I might be the lowest of industrialized nations.

And just because you have more kids, doesn't mean you know better. I also hope your spouse taught your five kids some manners, because they most likely didn't get any from you.

Jane, not true. Co-sleeping has been shown to be safer than keeping children in cribs in a separate bedroom. Most incidences of SIDS have happened in a CRIB, not from co-sleeping. Co-sleeping with babies has been going on for ages. In fact, studies have shown that co-sleeping reduces the incidences of SIDS because babies mimic the breathing of their mothers...basically they keep the same rhythm of breathing as their mommies. It's only when the parent is extremely overweight, under the influence of drugs or medications, smokes, that co-sleeping in the same bed w/out a special device isn't recommended. That or the infant should sleep in a bassinnette like bed that joins with the regular bed. Also, big comforters can suffocate babies, same w/ baby comforters. More babies die in cribs than they do from co-sleeping. Babies have gotten their heads stuck in-between the crib bars, and babies die from sleeping on their stomachs.

My daughter slept next to our bed when she was first born because she was only 6 lbs. But then once she was a month or so old she slept in bed with us, or she slept in a crib at the foot of our bed. Most of the time she slept with me, in the nook of my arm. She grew up just fine, and I enjoyed sleeping with her. I think we have a stronger bond because of it. And there are other studies that have shown that co-sleeping children grow up to be better adjusted and have less emotional issues. Just think of being a newborn baby who has been attached to its mother for 10 months, then is locked in a crib in another room. To me that is cruel punishment. Those early moments of life are the important bonding moments.

It is a sad and unfortunate incident. It could have been avoided if only the mother knew that she should use an in-bed device, or a side-bed crib until the twins were bigger. Maybe she decided to lay down when she was feeding them and she fell asleep. I know that would happen to me. Those night feedings, made me fall asleep in bed with my daughter. I'm sure the mother is heartbroken and really doesn't need all these negative, heartless comments.

DLux as I posted previously. Women in asia and africa do not sleep in fluffy beds with thick comforters and pillows. Looking at statistics in a place that is unlike here to the point of being a different world made no sense whatsoever. Women in asia and africa sleep on hard pallets on the floor. It sounds to me, like a lot of people, you wanted to do this, made up your mind to do it and looked until you found statistics, somewhere in the world, to back up what you'd already made up your mind to do.

Even if she didn't have the money for a crib she could have used a dresser drawer or even an empty box to put the babies in. When I was an infant my parents put me in a drawer because they had no other resources and I turned out ok.

I am sorry for her loss and will keep her in my prayers.

says who Daisyhill? hahaha

A little defensive aren't we? Are you professing to be able to read this woman's mind?

You really need to check out some facts - if there isn't an underlying condition or drugs, alcohol or etc. involved it really is quite safe from personal experience and a wonder way to share life in the beginning. Do you have children? Ever been so freaking tired you can't see straight? Did you ever consider what has been done in the past without central heat? How could you afford to leave the child in a crib? Besides it wasn't natural -

Elpea you are wrong. And most of the time when something is "natural" it is the better way to go. Co-sleeping was the way it was done from the dawn of time. SIDS happens more often when babies are in cribs. So why is that? Maybe because their MOTHER isn't right by their side to help them if something goes wrong. Also studies have shown that a baby mimics its mothers breathing, and that is why it reduces SIDS. It is only unsafe when the parent(s) are overweight, smoke, drink, are under the influence of medications or drugs, or have big fluffy comforters & pillows. They make a special little bed that you can put your baby in and then it goes inside your bed. It has cushioning around it so that you can't roll onto your babies even if you are overweight, etc. Or there are side baby beds that attach to the parents bed so the baby can be right next to the mommy.

For all we know, this mother wasn't even co-sleeping. She might have been sitting in bed feeding her babies and fell asleep. I had that happen a few times when I was breastfeeding. As someone above said, in other countries where people aren't as overweight as Americans, there are less incidences of babies suffocating during co-sleeping. Co-sleeping IS and CAN be safe, just as sleeping in a CRIB CAN be dangerous. More babies have died sleeping in cribs than co-sleeping, so which one is safer?

I slept with my children off and on, when they were sick, teething and crying, etc. Its part of natural mothering, cave women slept with their children. its also much easier if you are nursing, you don't even have to go get the baby, and half the time you don't even know when the baby stops nursing, becasue you fall back asleep while the baby is nursing. Any woman, even a fat person, is going to know when they have rolled onto a baby. The baby is going to struggle and if that doesn't wake you up, you shouldn't have a baby in your bed. Most mothers will instinctively wake up when their baby cries, or begins moving around a lot.

What if they simply get wrapped up in the blankets and smother that way? How would you know?

Oom--that is EXACTLY why it is best to have your child beside you! If the baby's in a crib, you're not there to know if they're wrapped in their blanket.

And--baby in a crib has a much greater chance of 1) having the blanket come off and getting chilled--which their immature systems are less able to handle. [The incidence of SIDS, for example, is much higher during winter months in cold climates.] or 2) getting wrapped in the blanket.

Mom's natural body heat--just the right temperature for baby--as well as being comforting, does the job better and safer for baby than any blanket. Unless, that is, Mom is on drugs, or drunk, or has some kind of disorder that puts her out of commission. I would include, in this, a mental/psychological disorder. We seem to be seeing a spate of young, unattached parents whose babies are mysteriously dying.

Puhleeze. You can keep the heat at the appropriate temperature. Actually they told me at the hospital that more people keep the room too hot than too cold, and my son was born in January. You can use the proper sleeping clothes (I forget what you call that one piece garment) and avoid the need for separate blankets at all. I wouldn't know a baby was wrapped in the blanket even if he was right next to me. How could I? Perhaps I'm unusual, but when I sleep, I'm unconscious and unaware. It must be nice to be conscious while asleep. You must be a genius since you could be listening to educational tapes all night while you sleep. /sarcasm

I have never been able to sleep without multiple blankets and pillows, even in the summer, let alone the winter. An adult blanket could obviously be lethal to a baby. And I knew I NEEDED my sleep in order to safely care for my child.

The coroner can tell simply by looking at certain factors. For example, a person who has been suffocated intentionally may show signs of force to the skin around and/or inside of the mouth.

There are visible indicators.

Why would there be any difference smothering your sleeping child to death with covers, or a pillow, or your body intentionally or doing the exact same thing unintentionally?

One child possible. Two children at the same time probably not. How would anyone know? She could have just as easily done it on purpose. Mighty suspicious that the rate has quadrupled.

I wonder how many people insisting that "co-sleeping" with their infant is so much "safer," rewarding," "easier..." oops why do I suspect that "easier" predominates?

I suggest that these dyed-in-the wool co-sleepers should research "Criminally negligent manslaughter is variously referred to as criminally negligent homicide in the United States" which is a crime in itself.

Negligence is a choice. Choosing not to believe what you don't want to believe is lethal for thousands of babies a year, and is, at the least "negligence."

In the cases we are discussing here, in my opinion that could mean jail time especially when the killers insist there is "nothing wrong" with co-sleeping.

Homicide is causing loss of life whether murder or manslaughter. That's where you Sooo-Cooo-Sleepers ought to do your research. As should your fabled "researchers."

Hearts, since you don't believe any of us coo-coo co-sleepers, then how about some doctors & scientists who have done studies on the subject. Here's some reading for you to knock some sense into your thick head.

"It may be important to consider or reflect on whether you would think that you suffocated your baby if, under the most unlikely scenario, your baby died from SIDS while in your bed. Just as babies can die from SIDS in a risk free solitary sleep environment, it remains possible for a baby to die in a risk-free cosleeping/bed sharing environment. Just make sure, as much as this is possible, that you would not assume that , if the baby died, that either you or your spouse would think that bed-sharing contributed to the death, or that one of your really suffocated (by accident) the infant. It is worth thinking about."

Hmm....Or maybe the baby just died of SIDS, not from suffocation from co-sleeping The babies may have died if they were in a crib, and it may not be the "fault" of the mother.

Dr. Sears says:

Since I’m a show-me-the-science doctor, consider the following:

• Cultures who traditionally practice safe co-sleeping, such as Asians, enjoy the lowest incidence of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS).
• Trusted research by Dr. James McKenna, Director of the Mother-Baby Sleep Laboratory of the University of Notre Dame, showed that mothers and babies who sleep close to each other enjoy similar protective sleep patterns. Mothers enjoy a heightened awareness of their baby’s presence, what I call a “nighttime sleep harmony,” that protects baby. The co-sleeping mother is more aware if her baby’s well-being is in danger.
• Babies who sleep close to their mothers enjoy “protective arousal,” a state of sleep that enables them to more easily awaken if their health is in danger, such as breathing difficulties.
• Co-sleeping makes breastfeeding easier, which provides many health benefits for mother and baby.
• More infant deaths occur in unsafe cribs than in parents' bed.
• Co-sleeping tragedies that have occurred have nearly always been associated with dangerous practices, such as unsafe beds, or parents under the influence of substances that dampen their awareness of baby.
• Research shows that co-sleeping infants cry less during the night, compared to solo sleepers who startle repeatedly throughout the night and spend 4 times the number of minutes crying. Startling and crying releases adrenaline, which can interfere with restful sleep and leads to long term sleep anxiety.
• Infants who sleep near to parents have more stable temperatures, regular heart rhythms, and fewer long pauses in breathing compared to babies who sleep alone. This means baby sleeps physiologically safer.
• A recent large study concluded that bed sharing did NOT increase the risk of SIDS, unless the mom was a smoker or abused alcohol.

That's just a few of the many doctors and scientists who agree with us coo-coo co-sleepers that co-sleeping is much better than putting your baby in crib. Especially that one about crying more & releasing more adrenaline - poor babies. I think putting your infant in a crib in another room is tantamount to TORTURE. You keep the baby in your womb for 10 months then shove it in another room all by itself, and think that is healthier than it staying with its mommy in a bed? I feel bad for your kids if you had any or ever do.

Then put your baby in a bassinette next to your bed, which is completely risk free? Why go from one extreme to the other, which is an intellectually dishonest way of pretending there is no middle ground possible? I cannot imagine a bedroom so small you couldn't have a bassinette or cradle next to your bed, and I love the idea of having one that is level with the bed--mine wasn't, quite. By the time my younger son was born we could afford our own place with three bedrooms, but I didn't put my son in his room until he was six months old, and even then I put a spare bed in that room so a parent could sleep there next to him when necessary.

Melinda, Asians don't have the same kinds of beds that we do. Spouting off "research" from un-named sources does not prove your case. Women have slept with their infants since the beginning of time. At the beginning of time they also didn't have foam matresses, six inch comforters and six pillows. Things have changed, asian and african women surely do successfully sleep with their babies, their way of life is a world away from ours, we don't sleep on hard pallets on the floor without a pillow for instance.

They no longer exist, Judd. They lost their one and only chance at existence which is why it is such a tragedy.

true there boddies don't exist but their souls will live on in eternity with Jesus.

You need to learn to spell!

Leroy, that only holds true in your Christian religion, some think you get more than one chance, which is a much better way of thinking in my book...

Judd that is not proveable, purely speculation

Hey Judd--did you sleep through grammar and spelling lessons?

Judd, I wouldn't be calling anyone else stupid until you learn some spelling. I'm not saying you are stupid, but just saying that correct use of the English language would make your point better than what you posted.

Judd-2749800, seriously bud, this isn't the type of thread to fool around for the sake of shock value. Try to choose something at least a little different.

That is a horrible thing to say and you should be ashamed of yourself. What makes you better than this woman, who you do not even know, or the circumstances. This is a tragedy and obviously since there is no foul play, it is not your place, nor your right to call her stupid. She will beat herself up enough about what happened, and instead of being criticized, she needs support. Everything happens for a reason, God decided it was their destiny.

I also think you should educate yourself prior to making comments such as you have.

This is why babies need to sleep in their cribs.

Your logic: "I drove drunk the wrong-way down a one-way street 10 times and never had an accident".

So, just because YOU got lucky and your children didn't suffocate to death, this behavior is okay.

It is a DANGEROUS PRACTICE to have an adult, unconscious body and a loose, completely vulnerable baby next to the adult. Here we have two more infants who died due to this practice and you resort to the old 'because it never happened to me, it must be safe.'

A large percentage of the time, someone who drives drunk will make it home without an accident. That does not make it a safe practice.

the people who do cosleep in Africa and Asia don't have Western style beds. A futon on the floor is probably a lot safer.

What happens when the baby learns to roll over, which always happens when you least expect it? What do you think are the possible repurcussions of falling off an adult's bed, a couple of feet from the floor?

No I don't get it, but you need to learn to spell.It's would, not wood. Get it?

Judd-2749800 You are just an A$$. Somebody needs to take your keyboard away. You remind me of a teenager who is going for the shock value from someone else's horrible tragedy.

You have to be a troll. Seriously, go ask your mother for some English usage lessons before you judge others.

A nursing mother co-sleeping with her baby (on a firm, flat bed without pillows or blankets near the baby) is, has been, and will continue to be the safest way to sleep. Breastfeeding mothers can sense their children in a way that formula-feeding mothers cannot. A breastfeeding mother does not sleep with her back to her baby(ies). Given the mechanics involved in suffocating two babies, she had to have had her back to them or else there was another factor (pillows, bedding, etc.) Unless, of course, it was not manual suffocation after all, and was instead a vaccine-related SIDS (which can manifest as a hypoxic injury).

Jude- I bet your keyboard weeps everytime your fingers land on any of the keys.

mumma.....

Vaccines have NOT been shown to cause SIDS. I suggest you get your information from reputable sources, such as the CDC.

Yes, breastfeeding is best.

Yes, children can die in their own beds, a lot fewer are dying now that most babies are placed on their backs and with safer bedding.

HOWEVER, an infant sleeping next to an unconscious adult is a dangerous practice and has resulted in thousands of Amercan infants dying of suffocation.

I don't get it. If you are trying to make a joke, just stop. It isn't funny.

You said that right! Dumb, mindless people.

Gloria Fabiaschi, she's quite the sparkplug! Too bad she's a rightie...

Agreed. As the mother of twins, I can completely see how this could accidentally happen. Being a mother of twin babies is very exhausting and you can easily loose your senses after going for weeks without enough rest. That is the REAL world. Poor mother. How sad.

I have twins too, and I remember when they were little my husband and I would see other parents of older multiples and have hope we would survive...lol. The whole first year is a blur of diapers and nursing.

I wasn't there and no one else here was. We don't know what happened and never truly will, so how about some compassion? She lost TWO babies and that would be a nightmare. None of us were there and in her circumstances, so we have no way to know what we would have done in her place. I am sorry for her losses and for the babies who won't get a chance in this life.

I agree, she could have just fallen asleep with no intention to do so.

Yeah, okay, maybe both isn't so strange, but still, the coroner has no way of determining if the suffocation was accidental or intentional. How can he "rule" it accidental? The only thing he can "rule" is that the babies were suffocated.

kierastone... You are full of "what ifs." And since statistics show that thousands of people "are doing it," this does not affect the fact that if even "only" 1% die as a result... IT ISN'T WORTH IT! Who the sam hill can be excused... who already knows it is dangerous, who can justify another's death by saying "oooo well everyone does it," and get away with killing a helpless infant?

Are you out of your cotton pickin' gourds? KILLING IS WRONG, whether you chose it or chance it. And if you chance it with a baby's life, you can also choose NOT to do it ...

HeartsQuest - in other words if you don't agree, it is wrong? Take a look at the required shots for immunization. There are deaths from the process but overall the whole is better - ever think about why we all are required to complete the process? If KILLING IS WRONG what then? Don't do it?

I totally agree. We'll never know, though. Can't throw a mommy in prison on suspicions.