All in the family? Report finds growing acceptance of interracial marriage in US

Couples gather on the steps of the Arizona Supreme Court for a mass wedding ceremony Tuesday to mark Valentine's Day. A new report says interracial marriages in the U.S. have climbed to a record high.

As the number of interracial marriages in the U.S. continues to rise, so does Americans’ acceptance of them, a new Pew Research Center report finds.

The report, “The Rise of Intermarriage,” analyzed characteristics of people who marry spouses of a different race or ethnicity. It was based on Census data and on findings from nationwide telephone surveys conducted by Pew.

It found that about 15 percent of all new marriages in the United States in 2010 were between spouses of a different race or ethnicity, more than double the share in 1980. The share of intermarriages among all married couples, regardless of when they married, hit an all-time high of 8.4 percent. That’s up from 3.2 percent in 1980.


Among newlyweds in 2010, Asians, at 28 percent, and Hispanics, at 26 percent, were most likely to “marry out,” followed by blacks, at 17 percent. Whites, at 9 percent, were least likely to marry someone of a different race or ethnicity. (The report noted whites are by far the largest racial group in the U.S., so even though their intermarriage rate is relatively low, marriages between whites and minority groups are the most common.)

The data also suggest Americas are much more tolerant and accepting of interracial marriage.

A record number of Americans are marrying outside their own race, according to a new Pew report. Msnbc's Thomas Roberts discusses the study with TheGrio.com's David Love.

Nearly two-thirds of Americans, 63 percent, say it “would be fine” if a member of their own family were to marry someone outside their racial or ethnic group. In 1986, the public was divided about this, with 28 percent of Americans saying people of different races marrying each other was not acceptable for anyone and 33 percent viewing intermarriage as acceptable for everyone.

More than four in 10 Americans, 43 percent, say that more people of different races marrying each other has been a change for the better in our society, while 11 percent say it has been a change for the worse and 44 percent say it has made no difference.

Msnbc.com asked its Facebook followers about their experience with interracial marriage, and several agreed America is becoming more tolerant.

“People are much more accepting now than ever,” wrote Leonard Paul Hotkowski. “I'm white male, her black female. Tends to be that we get a bit of attitude from other black women. Not all black women though, just a specific type of black women. Some older white people in my family also aren't as accepting but overall society I feel looks at us in a good light.”

Read more from our Facebook readers on their interracial marriage experiences

“I think that no matter what there will always be people who don’t understand that we didn’t set out looking for one particular ethnic group,” wrote Eva Colin, who is white and whose husband is Hispanic. “We just fell in love. The thought we might upset anyone because of who we are just didn’t matter.”

Patrice Stallings Sharon said she is a black woman married to a white/Hispanic man.

"I also feel that it is accepted much more these days than ever before, but I also believe depending where you live,” she wrote. "We currently live in a military town filled with interracial couples and children. We are in the process of moving to Fort Worth, TX in a few weeks... and the looks we get are UNREAL! I personally get very upset at the stares and angry looks my family receives. But my husband is very tolerant of it. People stare at my daughter all the time and even ask me if she belongs to me, and proceeds to tell me that she just looks Hispanic. I feel like I need to carry her birth certificate around at times.”

The Pew report noted that for most of the nation's history, a majority of states had laws that made it illegal for whites and nonwhites to marry. Interracial marriage in the U.S. wasn’t fully legal in all states until a 1967 Supreme Court ruling deemed anti-miscegenation laws unconstitutional.

Read the full Pew report on interracial marriage

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While I personally have no problem with interracial marriage, I do have a bit of concern about it causing social problems. Not making a blanket statement, but each race tends to have its unique cultures that may sometimes conflict with each other. Not saying they can't be worked out, it's just not what I would prefer for myself. Again, not biased here.

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#1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:43 AM EST

Do you care to elaborate about said "social problems" ?

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#1.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:03 PM EST

I believe these differences can / are all being worked out, not just for couples and cultures, but in society as a whole. It is because, at the end of the day, these are men and women that love each other.

The environment we live in adapts and changes. The prejudices we felt in the past don't matter today. Men and women in marriage is a beautiful, natural thing and will survive the test of time!

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#1.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:03 PM EST

In my family there are 2 interracial marriages....The only ones who always seem to make it a issue is them. Frankly, I just dont care as long as your happy!

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#1.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:09 PM EST

I really can't believe that this is even an issue that people are "growing to accept" the only people it concerns are those getting married! Other people need to grow up and look after their own lives.

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#1.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:12 PM EST

Uh, Steady Dude -- you need to get out more - what a ridiculous comment - what a shallow world you live in, amazing.

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#1.5 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:14 PM EST

@lisalisa: After dating every race and "married out," I think it is you who should get a better understanding of inter-race relations. Only a real "ditz" would think otherwise.

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#1.6 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:33 PM EST

Why so condescending, lisalisa? I was not being critical. I only said it's not what I would choose for myself. Did you even read my post? I SAID I am not biased. Good grief, lighten up.

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#1.7 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:37 PM EST

Will, read the second part of my statement. Perhaps I should have used the word "cultural" instead of "social". Nonetheless, racism does seem to be alive and well (unfortunately), and I have known of circumstances where an interracial child was not accepted by his peers of either race. While I think that is totally wrong, sadly it happens. At any rate, I must emphatically state that I am not opposed to anyone who makes the choice to marry interracially. It is just not what I would choose. That doesn't mean I am critical towards it.

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#1.8 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:48 PM EST
Comment author avatarAllen-2635884Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

well...you know what they say..."once you go black you never go back"

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#1.9 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:50 PM EST
Comment author avatarangryamerican55Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Good point.

Just a fact here, but people talk about how this is more acceptable now than say the 60s, Anyone also care to look at the crime rates and social decay of the country? As the country gets more liberal it gets worse I really hate to say this but its the truth.

After the war of northen aggression ended whites and blacks had a chance to work together. The liberal white did not want that though and turned former friends against each other and here is what we have today.

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#1.10 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:50 PM EST

So there are hurdles because of culture? So somebody from England has the same culture as someone from Portugal, just because they are white? Utter nonsense.

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#1.11 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:52 PM EST

What a bigoted and mindless comment. The 'fact' is that crime rates are down huge, and it's the liberals that have to try to advance the society while dragging neanderthals like you along as dead weight. You're truth only exists between your ears.

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#1.12 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:59 PM EST

I am a firm believer that on this world there is ONE RACE, THE HUMAN RACE! I have dated women of every ethnicity, well except Spanish for some reason, who knows. Anyways, I have two children, one of them with a white woman, one with an Asian woman (my ex wife).

Now both of those relationships didn't work out for one reason or another, but I remain friends with both of them and both children are a very large part of my life, with shared custody of my half Filipino son. Both my son an daughter love each other very much as well.

Currently my GF is black (Brazilian) and probably the most amazing woman on the planet. Never in my life did I ever imagine that I would find a woman like her or that one even existed.

Love knows no color. I wouldn't care if her eyes were blue/green/brown or her hair blond/black/red or her skin white/black/brown. She is still an amazing woman and I will most likely marry her someday soon.

We need to stop seeing people as colors of skin and grouping and dividing them up because of that. We don't talk about inter-hair-color marriages, there is no more significance to an inter-skin-color (inter-racial) marriage. Or at least there shouldn't be!

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#1.13 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:59 PM EST

I SAID I am not biased. Good grief, lighten up.

Just to clear something up here, that's not like a get out of jail free card. It's like saying, "Hey, no offense, but you're really fat and disgusting. WHAT? Why are you pissed?! I SAID no offense!"

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#1.14 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:00 PM EST

Remember you are the one with the problem. No one else but you. There should be a special place in hell for race haters, not matter if you have a little problem with it or a big problem.

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#1.15 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:00 PM EST

I only have one question. If we truly want to have a "color-blind" society why are we (the Government) tracking race or ethnicity at all. Can some enlightened liberal please explain to me why its any of their business? Are there statistics being collected on marriage longevity/failure rates based on ethnic or racial links? If so, why? It seems to me the politicians and activists are all playing the divide and conquer game here and I, for one, am sick of it. I'm sick of the race card! I'm particularly sick of liberals making race an issue where it simply shouldn't be. Oh that's right,you can't play the victim unless you can distinguish yourself from everybody else. I'm sick of the culture of victimization which is just an enabling tool of the liberal culture of entitlement. The world doesn't owe any of us a living or a damned thing. Toughen up and PURSUE happiness. Thats my rant for the day.

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#1.16 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:08 PM EST

Dare I ask what you mean by 'each race tends to have its unique cultures'? I ask solely because I am black. I am also an American. My partner is white. She is also American. The cultural differences we have are caused far more by my having grown up in upper-middle class academia in California and her having grown up in poverty in Utah than our racial groupings. Not that there is *no* difference but that those differences are background noise compared to the assumptions we both walked in to the relationship given our class backgrounds. My own observation is that families within classes tend to be much more alike than they would be with their particular ethnic or racial groupings. This means that if you take three middle-class Americans, one black, one white and one, say, Chinese and throw out the trivial stuff (food choices, etc.) they will be more alike than any of them will be with people who share only a certain racial groupings but are from a working-class background.

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#1.17 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:35 PM EST

This is all propaganda fluff. How can we be interracial AND show racial prejudices too?

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#1.18 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:38 PM EST

MTpolitico - I don't think this about race. About a week before Washington State made same sex marriage legal, NBC began running stories on the nightly news and here on MSNBC with stories like this. Stories that train us on our past & present, to form our future. I have seen and heard many stories pertaining to marriages that are 'outside the norm' over the last 10 days. I think it is this media outlet's intent to show us how this kind of relationship was one forbidden, but is now accepted. Once we get that level of acceptance through our thick skulls, perhaps America will begin accepting homosexual lifestyles (esp. "marriage") as normal and accepted.

Just my humble opinion...!

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#1.19 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:47 PM EST

You're absolutely right Allen. Once I tried black coffee I can't stand putting cream or sugar in it. That's what you meant right?

The only people I hear saying that are Black people. All this article does is bread hate. If it's not a big deal then why have a story about it. So many other people said it right. The marriage between two people should only matter to the two that are getting married (unless it's one of those crazy Mormon groups then maybe they should ask others what they think).

Something that is normal and OK in society doesn't get reported on.

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#1.20 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:50 PM EST

remember when the religious right used to say that mixed race was an abomination to God, and they'd justify it with Old Testament verse where God forbade Jews from mixing with other races? Now their targets are on gay marriage. Can't they just let love prosper, and have faith that it's in God's hands and not theirs. He is the judge not humans.

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#1.21 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:50 PM EST

Why do we even still use the term "interracial?" As far as I can tell, all these couples are members of the human race. Everything else is just pigmentation.

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#1.22 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:05 PM EST

I am white, my wife is Filipino. My son from my first marriage to a white woman is married to a Hispanic woman and my other son is married to a Japanese woman. Needless to say we are a prime example of interracial marriage.

We live in Southern California and have never felt any prejudice towards us due to our relationships. I was actually surprised at the numbers, and at the statement that most Americans "tolerate" interracial marriage. Tolerate? Really? Our happiness has to be tolerated by others? Wow.

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#1.23 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:12 PM EST

Report finds growing acceptance of interracial marriage in US

Huh?

Is this 2012 or 1902?

What a disgrace

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#1.24 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:12 PM EST

You know, I was going to comment on something else, but:

After the war of northen aggression ended whites and blacks had a chance to work together. The liberal white did not want that though and turned former friends against each other and here is what we have today.

WHAT??? I can't believe I just read that - are you referring to the American Civil War as the "War of Northern Aggression?" Who fired the first shots? I believe it was South Carolina, as in the SOUTH??? What century were you born in? JEEEZ!!!

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#1.25 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:13 PM EST

If two people love each other the rest of this nonsense is just that - nonsense. I cannot figure out why so many people want to get so involved in the personal lives of others.

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#1.26 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:19 PM EST

Hey Allen-2635884, why did you make it a black thing? Intermarriage isn't just about black and white. It speaks to marriage between any combination of races. The comment you made is in itself, racist. My wife's first husband was Pakistani. He was very dark complected, but not black by definition. He was Arabic. I find intermarriage potentially healthy for a society. It compels people of differing heritages to learn and accept each other. Right after WWII, anyone in the U.S. marrying a Japanese, or other Asian, was frowned upon as much as marrying any race not your own. Now, it's barely noticed if someone white or black marries an Asian.
I was taught there is only one race and that race is human. The rest is pigmentation.
There are only four main groups of humans. They are Caucasoid, Negroid, Occidental and Oriental. (These are anthropological classifications, so don't wig out over them, okay?) Each has varying shades of skin color. People from India for example, are classified as dark Caucasians. Although native Australians are Negroids, they possess blue eyes and blond hair among them. Inuit (Eskimos) are Orientals, but native Americans are Occidentals. One race, four subgroups and then regional variations. Our singular race is why we can intermarry and bear children. If we weren't, our children would be born sterile.
Race is irrelevant overall.

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#1.27 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:21 PM EST

Well, first of all, we seem to have a bigger problem here, and it call racism, which is a illness that need to be TREATED, and until that happen, we will always have that serious problem of hatred in this country, it not going any where, you can play all the word game, such as being politically correct, and placing blame on the victim like they always do, the victim are now a racist, not the superiority race over another race, culture or colour. it such a big joke, so you all keep trying to work out this everlasting problem, it like the monster, trying to get everyone to go alone with his program.

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#1.28 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:24 PM EST

American has always been the "melting pot" of the worlds people and cultures.

A couple hundred years from now most of the population will be homogenous and people will wonder what all this racism stuff was all about.

.

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#1.29 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:27 PM EST

The author of this article proves again that today's citizens are receiving a third rate education. The races are not white, black, hispanic, and asian. The three classically defined races are Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negroid.

There are variants which seemingly could fit several of the three major groups, but these are usually lumped into the racial group that seem most appropriate. Mixtures of the three main groups might have a classification, but do not constitute a race. Hispanics, who can be anything from a pure race to mixtures of all three races, are mainly a geographical classification instead of a racial classification.

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#1.30 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:33 PM EST

The only colours that need to be seperated are in the laundry.

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#1.31 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:36 PM EST

It would be great if the world actually worked like that everywhere. In some small towns in the south & Midwest (maybe other places) a black man and white women can't walk into a restaurant together and expect to be served. Some churches won't accept inter-racially married couples into the congregation. The looks you get in parks, PTA meetings, and supermarkets clearly shows that it is still unacceptable (in some areas) with a large portion of the population. Some might read this and think I'm exaggerating, but ignoring the issue doesn't make the hate go away. Racism and intolerance is still alive in our society.

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#1.32 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:36 PM EST

"people will wonder what all this racism stuff was all about." IT'S ALL ABOUT SOCIAL ENGINEERING

    #1.33 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:37 PM EST

    I can see I really touched some sore spots. For the record, folks, I am not racist nor am I biased towards interracial marriage. You know who you are that I am talking to. You have no right to judge my motives for what I said. I said I was not making a blanket statement about culture. I only implied a "tendency". I might add that there can also be cultural differences in the SAME race. As Dreadgeek pointed out, much of it has to do with upbringing. I only meant that I felt there was more of a chance of different beliefs, religion, etc. between different races. Maybe I'm wrong; If you disagree, fine; but don't accuse me of being a racist. You don't know what is in my heart. I believe that God created all people equally and I really don't care what color or "race" someone is. What I do care about is morals and character; and every race has a wide diversity of those two features, good and bad.

    I am not looking for a "get out of jail free card" I meant nothing negative or derogatory in my statements. Please notice, in my post I used words like "may", "sometimes" , "tend to". That was intentional. As flbikerchick said, we are all members of the human race. And I usually don't agree with her viewpoints. This time I do.

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    #1.34 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:41 PM EST

    Of course you're making blanket assumptions. It is evident from your posts you can't articulate what these differences are so you fall back on "tendency." If you're so knowledgeable about these "tendencies" explain what they might be. OTOH, If I were you, I'd give your attempts at explaining your initial post a rest.

      #1.35 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:53 PM EST

      I’m neither white nor black, and I’m currently in an interracial relationship with a white person. We’ve been together for a lot of years and still love each other more and more everyday. Based on what I’ve seen in reality, white and black interracial couples don’t last long, and I think it’s really bad for their kids. On the other hand, interracial couples between whites and other races last much longer, and I’ve seen a lot of them grow old together, but not with interracial couples between blacks and whites. I don’t know why, but this is a fact.

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      #1.36 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:00 PM EST

      Mr. Steady,

      I think for the first few generations, there is a sociological issue. It is really an integration issue encompassing education and career choices, as well as family and moral values. There is no such thing as race, but there is a huge difference in demographics and personal belief systems.

      As our society becomes more global, these differences probably will lessen, but it won't be a smooth transition if you both parties don't have the same goals.

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      #1.37 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:05 PM EST

      Oaktownboy, you have some serious lack of reading comprehension. I never claimed to be an expert, I was only stating my opinion. I even admitted that I may be wrong. You know what? Screw me for having an opinion! I have never resorted to name calling on this board, but some of you are seriously tempting me.

      Janellect, thank you from the bottom of my heart. You obviously understand what I have been trying to say, I just couldn't exactly get it into writing. Thank you for not making wrong accusations against me as others on here have.

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      #1.38 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:19 PM EST

      MTpolitico--the government tracks race and ethnicity because it is really hard to tell whether or not people are discriminating unless one has that information.

      The current refuge of the European-American racist is to claim that no one ought to notice race/ethnicity, because race/ethnicity is not important. This is pretty much geared towards preserving the situation as it stands--in which people of European descent receive better treatment (and, if you are a European who is pale and think that's wrong, then go get your skin stained dark and your hair dyed dark and if you have pale eyes, get dark contacts--you'll find out pretty darned quickly that I'm right--this study has been run so many times that it isn't really necessary to replicate it, but go ahead and find out yourself).

      Racism is, granted, not isolated to European-Americans, but it is European-Americans who want to claim that tracking race produces racism. No, it does not. It is one thing which helps to show that racial discrimination persists in the same way that tracking gender helps to prove that gender discrimination still exists. When studies show no relationship of race/ethnicity/gender to unfair treatment, then these can be dropped as categories because they will be about as cogent as a person's shoe size.

      It won't happen in my lifetime, but I really look forward to race/ethnicity/gender becoming a moot issue in the workplace.

        #1.39 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:37 PM EST

        Can anyone here even definitively define what 'race' means? If you can, try and find a married couple that isn't already interracial! Well, except of course for the pure racial marriages where they just inbreed.

        Silly article.

          #1.40 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:39 PM EST

          I believe the only thing interracial couples should keep in mind is to always remember your heritage and pass that on to the kids. My parents are two different ethnicity's and my dad sometimes reminds me how he regrets never teaching me his language because he thought I'd never need it. Guess what, being bilingual these days definitely helps the job prospects for one. I don't like melting pots, I like the tossed salad! I love being of mixed raced, it's so exotic and I get complimented on that all the time.

          But all I have to say is, if the guy or woman has nice features/personality and they are attractive to you, then that should be the reason you want to date them.

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          #1.41 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:50 PM EST

          I agree GetReal. It seems like culture is a big issue when whites and blacks marry specifically white women and black men. Notsure as to why but when looking at the statistics for black males in this society with the incarceration rates, crime levels, OOW births/fatherless homes, education and financial stability this may play a part in it. BM/WW relationships have the least success rate statistically.

          To the contrary though WM/BW relationships seem quite successful yet rare. I have seen a few WM/BW relationships and BM seem to make the most uproar about this even when they date interracial themselves.

          I am a white male and date a latina and usually date latinas. I don't find my or her family upset at our union or any real drastic differences from WW or AW besides things like food, holiday celebrations ect..

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          #1.42 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:56 PM EST

          I was engaged to a Japanese Hawaiian years ago and her parents were the most unabashed, blatant racists I have ever met.
          Too bad. Couldn't be overcome. Acceptance, baby!

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          #1.43 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:59 PM EST

          Hi everyone! I have a confession to make - I am half Canadian, a 1/4 English, 2/10 american indian, and I am married to a half Austrian, 5/16 PA Dutch and 1/4 moisturizing cream (or something like that).

          I am currently in an Intergenderal Marriage, and have been for almost 18 years.

          I also have to confess that I have Black hair and my wife has Blonde. Wow! It feels so good to get all that off my chest finally!!!

          If you don't find any of this offensive.......Why on earth would you find people of different Races an issue?

          Admittedly, We also have come into our marriage with demographical (social, cultural) differences that had to be addressed. But I don't see why any of this is news worthy.....

          EVERY MARRIAGE IS GOING TO HAVE ITS ISSUES. It does not (or Should not) matter if they have skin color differences too. Its 2012 I thought we should've evolved past this already....

          Marriage is just finding someone you want to annoy for the rest of your life and having fun doing it!!!

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          #1.44 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:02 PM EST

          Some TV reporter once asked Morgn RFreeman how he would eliminate racism.

          His answer was 'stop talking about it.'

          My husband is Native American-Polish-Welsh-Lithuanian. While most people look at me and think 'Asian', I am actually a stateless former illegal, so I legally have no race, no ancestors, no parents, and the US even doesn't really like me calling myself American and can revoke that at any time. Therefore, by that, my children are Native American-Polish-Welsh-Lithuanian-apparently-Asian, and I have never had anyone look at them funny or deny them anything except Social services trying to deny my youngest son assistance (he's autistic) because his mother was a 'former illegal'.

          Oh, and before this starts a whole 'illegal immigrant' debate, I was adopted as an infant by an army vet and his wife, never told before they passed away suddenly, so when USCIS lost my adoption paper, I was declared 'illegal' and spent 3 years in a deportation camp because they couldn't deport me.

          On broader note; He is also Catholic and I am a practicing pagan, He's a Democrat and I'm not allowed to vote, he's straight and I'm bi, he's centrist and I am a conspiracy theorist, and what we have works and isn't going to change anytime soon. So what we do and what works for us should be no one's business but ours!The guiding tenet of my belief system is that 'There is no one true way!'

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          #1.45 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:14 PM EST

          beanathome; " it is European-Americans who want to claim that tracking race produces racism."

          BS. Besides I never stated that tracking race Produces racism. I do believe however that when a society strives to be color-blind that tracking race can perpetuate racism. Typically when filling out forms that ask my race I simply leave the answer blank. I see no need for some anonymous bureaucrat to pigeonhole me in some group classification to quantify his/her reason for existing professionally or to serve their highly evolved ego as a superior human being.

          When studies show no relationship of race/ethnicity/gender to unfair treatment, then these can be dropped as categories.

          This is a chicken or egg first analogy. Personally I don't feel racism can ever be eliminated as long as some beancounter feels the need to quantify it. That always seems to lead to finger pointing and assigning blame. For Example....Do I detect a little anti European-American bias in your statement?

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          #1.46 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:16 PM EST

          Funny it seems that no one is marrying black women. Whenever you see an ad it has a black man and white woman, never the other way around. There is the phrase "once you go black" but for some reason most forget the second part "you become a single mom".

          Dr Watson who won the Nobel prize for discovering DNA said

          "...
          there is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of
          peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have
          evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some
          universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so."

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          #1.47 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:19 PM EST

          As more old people die, acceptance grows.

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          #1.48 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:26 PM EST

          Mr Steady - I appreciate your honesty.

          I may not agree with you, but I think you're coming from a sincere place without meaning harm.

          There are plenty of black people who think like you do, and they arent considered racists.

          I've dated latino women, asian women, white women, brazillian women...but not black women. Not by choice, simply by circumstance...I had met very few black women (that were eligible to date) before I had met my spouse of 13 years.

          In my experience, we were no more "different" from each other, than the white women I had dated. It just boils down to whether or not you can appreciate and accept those differences, just as you would dating someone of the same race - who might have grown up a little differently than you.

          We get choices and we make them...

          it sounds to me, you've elevated the differences between races to be more of a hurdle to overcome than other differences that can and do exist amongst similar race.

          mentally, it might very well be realistically a bigger hurdle for you than say marrying someone who grew up without any money skills, whereby you grew up with excellent money skills (this can and does end in disasterous divorces because one spends like there's no tomorrow and the other goes mad trying to stop it).

          So in the end, I hope if you take nothing away from this discussion it's that perhaps...the differences arent as great as we think them to be, and even still..differences arent always something to run away from...often times, they help make us a whole person by opening us up to a way of life we never could have imagined...and maybe never knew we wanted.

          FYI - these articles are in the news, because the LOVING landmark case that opened the doors for interracial couples to marry...it's the anniversary, so as such...I thank the Media for helping average americans to remember our history, so we can always remember where we've been ...to help guide us to where we are going.

          I dont understand why many of you just want to plug your ears and scream lalalala so you dont have to be reminded of our american history and how it's impacted (most) of our lives.

            #1.49 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:53 PM EST

            If you think everyone is the same would you believe a black group that admits differently

            How about hearing from a black group saying without affirmative action there would be no black medical DRs http://www.jbhe.com/news_views/51_graduate_admissions_test.html "The Widening Racial Scoring Gap on Standardized Tests for Admission to Graduate School"

            • 1 vote
            #1.50 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:08 PM EST

            @Dreadgeek

            You've made an excellent point. My husband and I come from both different racial backgrounds and different economic/educational backgrounds. I too have found that most of the cultural differences within our marriage have much more to do with economic/educational issues than racial. I've also seen this theme play out in same-ethnicity relationships. Perhaps I have been unusually fortunate but I have seldom come across open predjudice against my marriage. When my husband is not with us, I have occasionally been asked if my children were adopted, but I see no real malice intended in this somewhat insensitive question. It does however make me ill when I read moronic opinions on how a mixed-racial heritage is "bad or difficult for the children". My children have been raised to be proud of and educated about all of their different cultural ancestry. To them more ethnicities just means more cultural heritages to celebrate.

            • 1 vote
            #1.51 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:42 PM EST

            Jessica,

            Thank you for having an intelligent and civil discussion. As I said above, maybe I'm wrong. If my wife were to ever die I probably woudn't just go looking for someone of a different race than I, but if I were to happen to meet someone of a different race that had all the characteristics I look for in a mate and was attracted to, then I would be open-minded enough to at least carefully consider it. I say carefully, because that would be the case no matter who it was. I view marriage as a lifelong committment (covenant) not to be taken lightly, so I would never just jump into it without a lot of consideration.

              #1.52 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:50 PM EST

              Hmm, personally I don't see problems coming from this... There's always hurdles and adaptations that have to be made, but.... with a little effort, they can easily be overcome. On the contrary, I actually see nothing but good things coming from all this race-mixing.

              In fact, I hope that every race on the planet continues to mix with the others. The more one race mixes with another, the more each of those races comes to accept and get along with the other. Any race that remains isolated from mixing tends to develop xenophopic attitudes towards other races (even if the xenophobia is not blatant and open, there's often an undercurrent of it in the culture). I could give an example of this, but I don't want to ignite defensiveness or flaming or trolling, so I'll just be oblique and say that a certain East Asian island nation is one example where there's still an undercurrent of fear of outsiders. This continues to decline, but it's still very much present.

              Of course, all of what I've written is just based on my own observations, I don't have any concrete "proof" as it were. Just bits of evidence here and there that support my hypothesis of race-mixing promoting interracial harmony.

              • 1 vote
              #1.53 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:50 PM EST

              It seems to me that any "social problems/barriers", like beauty, are in the eye of the beholder. We are all people and who we love/marry needs to be respected by all.

              • 2 votes
              #1.54 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:52 PM EST
              Reply

              as i said on the other post for this story...last time i checked the only race on this planet is the Human race....nuff said

              • 48 votes
              #2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:43 AM EST
              Comment author avatarbeecent$ableExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              This is all about gaining more acceptance and power for the self proclaimed mutt oh bah mah el pres1dente "The A$$yr1an". Interracial relationships and marriage is not acceptable. Yes - I am biased. We are not all one race - the human race. I am not b1ack and proud of it. Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation" did free only black slaves (not Chinese etc et al) in Southern States and especially no slaves in the Union North. History mostly describes all black's as being slaves and set free - not true then or now. Marry a black and you couple or marry your lineage to self proclaimed bondage of the mind. Blacks are not free in their own minds because freedom has a price and that price is abandoning appeasement mentality and getting a job then working - and providing for yourself - and family - and thereby for the general welfare. Men keep your pants zipped and women your legs closed to those desiring the "King Kong" - "Jungle Fever" - "Body guard" - taboo while intoxicated by a mingling of over zealous testosterone and estrogen run awry.

              • 7 votes
              #2.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:06 PM EST

              I'm with you. There is enough going on for us to deal with rather than who falls in love with whom and whether it should be accepted or not. Enough! Get over the nonsense.

              • 2 votes
              #2.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:06 PM EST

              @Politically Correct 5208558:

              Why do you feel sorry? Why are they not the same species? Are you attempting to degrade an entire race based on the acts of a few bad people. Bad people come in all colors of the rainbow.

              @beecent$able:

              I am Black. I have worked hard all my adult life; never been on welfare or received food stamps or any other government handout. I own my own home, was married and raised two children. Again, you are degrading an entire race based on the acts of a few bad people. Since you are so proud to be White, are you proud of all those White pedophiles? Does that automatically make all White people pedophiles, serial killers, etc.? Bad people come in all colors of the rainbow. Get down off your higher than holy horse. It certainly is your right to not be involved in an interracial relationship, but come off that because my skin is lily White, I am better than you, because you are not.

              • 35 votes
              #2.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:08 PM EST

              And trailer parks in Alabama full of meth labs are the same as your sub divisions?

              What sad pathetic mental gymnastics you use to convince yourself that your bigotry is reasonable! Both of you.

              "name with dollar signs", you clearly are misspelling to avoid word filters so I can tell that you are a professional hate blogger. Your story stinks my friend.

              • 15 votes
              #2.5 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:36 PM EST

              For those of us still struggling with where we feel comfortable within the "illegal/taboo/unusual/less unusual/acceptance" spectrum of our own personal stand on the subject of same gender marriage, let me offer this historical, and most personal perspective:

              As recently as in 1987 in the U.S., only 48% of us agreed that it was acceptable for a white person to date (much less marry and reproduce with) a nonwhite person. This included not only blacks and whites, but ANY mixing of "races."

              Which meant to this very white woman some ten years earlier, that my own legal marriage to a dark-skinned Hispanic man was way down that acceptance spectrum, hovering somewhere between "unusual" and "taboo," in most places (except for Alabama, where it still would have been illegal.) Our two beautiful children were representative to the majority of those polled as going against what was held by the mainstream to be "Right."

              With the changing of behaviors have come the changing of attitudes. The Census Bureau estimates that multiracial individuals along with minorities will represent a majority of the US population by mid-Century. For my kids' generation and for those that come after, racial and ethnic diversity are just a part of their lives. . . not an issue. They work and play with, love and marry whomever they choose . . . Not a factor.

              For those of us still struggling with where we feel comfortable within the spectrum of our stand on same gender marriage, please hear me: We should not place the burdens of our own fears, insecurities and lack of knowledge on the backs of yet another generation in the civil rights battle of this generation. In thirty years it will not be a factor. We should be the ones who stand tall today.

              • 11 votes
              #2.6 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:55 PM EST

              It's hard enough nowadays to find a good match, why cut off a large % of the population?

              • 6 votes
              #2.7 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:57 PM EST

              This is good. Allowing race or ethnicity to be a prohibitive factor that determines friendship, brotherhood, dating, and/or marriage, is and always has been the goddamndest warped proposition the "culls" of humankind ever hallucinated and bore upon their societies, and races.

              • 4 votes
              #2.8 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:02 PM EST

              Politically correct--guess you've never been to Ohio or Kentucky or Texas or Alabama where the white slums would have you BEGGING for a ticket to 125th Street in Harlem "just for some civility"... i'm guessing you live in some backwater dirt floor shack far away for any major city and your lack of experience with other ethnicities and cultures precludes you from what goes on outside of The Sticks, USA.

              I live in a neighborhood with well-off and wealthy whites, hispanics and blacks.

              By your logic, I should assume every white person is a hillbilly red-neck who fornicates with his sister in the back of the meth lab while your 11 fingered infant daughter is playing in one of the rusty cars on your front lawn...

              On second thought--I'll be intelligent instead

              • 10 votes
              #2.9 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:21 PM EST

              Politically Correct and Beecent$able are examples of chronic and terminal ignorance upon which bigotry feeds. These two twits are unaware of the fact that they contain within their bodies (as all human males on this planet) genetic markers that trace the human race's origin to a single tribe in Africa. Yes indeedy, folks - Adam and Eve were, well, black! Stick that up your pipe and smoke it!

              • 6 votes
              #2.10 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:19 PM EST

              If you think blacks and whites are even the same species then I feel sorry for you.

              Politically Correct-5208558 banned, failed audition.

              • 13 votes
              #2.11 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:29 PM EST

              1ad- you talk about white pedos but it is so accepted in the black communtiy that it doesnt get reported. Google (11yo gang rape black panther) to see the black community defend the 20+ black guys that gang raped an 11yo non black girl and shot cell phone vid of it. They said the 11yo girl consented and lied about her age. The youngest guy charged was 15 but some where in her same grade. The only reason the races where known is the black panthers where crying racism due to the all black attackers on a non-black victim.

              • 1 vote
              #2.12 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:28 PM EST

              If you think everyone is the same would you believe a black group that admits differently.

              How about hearing from a black group saying without affirmative action there would be no black medical DRs http://www.jbhe.com/news_views/51_graduate_admissions_test.html "The Widening Racial Scoring Gap on Standardized Tests for Admission to Graduate School"

              • 2 votes
              #2.13 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:09 PM EST

              I,m Native American, And I'm married to a red headed white woman of Irish decent. She is also a direct descendant of Abraham Lincoln. I wonder what old Abe would think about that? In the middle ages red headed women were often looked upon as witches. And lots were treated as so. When the America's were settled the Native people often took, AKA kidnapped, red heads for they believed that they possessed mystical/magical powers and were prized. As do I feel about her today. But the only difference is that she kidnapped my heart, And bewitched me. I love her dearly. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that.... One persons thrash is another persons treasure. "Be Good And Kind, And Love One Another"..... A world without love, acceptance and understanding is no world at all. "That place is called hell".... Or as the natives called it.... "Mictlan"..... The underworld....

              • 1 vote
              #2.14 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:34 PM EST

              what stunns me is the idea that people actually think we are different species. To Say that blacks and whites, or mexican and asians are different species is like one are dogs and the other are cats. but guess what, cats and dogs can't make babies together BECAUSE they are different species, UNLIKE humans who whether you believe the bible or evolution, we all started from one man and one woman and the reason that no matter the color of one's skin we love, laugh and learn..

              • 2 votes
              #2.15 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:15 PM EST
              Reply

              What's the big deal? As long as the man my daughter married treated her with respect and kindness, I don't really care what he looks like. My kids grew up in the military where interracial marriages are pretty normal. Respect and love will help couples work out ideological and cultural differences.

              Meddling is usually more of a problem and that has nothing to do with race...that's just family. No one is ever good enough for your child...lol.

              • 22 votes
              Reply#3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:50 AM EST

              This is exactly how my parents felt. My sisters and I all married outside our race. We weren't looking for any particular race, we were looking at personality and yes looks, and how good he treated us. I come from a very large family and we have all kinds in our family. From French, German, Spanish, Native American, Caucasian, and Hispanic. My family is all mixed up and we love it that way. It's normal to us. And I agree 100 percent on the meddling part. That seems to be a problem, especially with large families.

              • 13 votes
              #3.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:02 PM EST
              Comment author avatarbeecent$ableExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              All the races you mentioned are derived of the so-called lost 10 tribes of ISRAEL and are in fact caucazoid and not KNEE-GRO!D (lower suckers and bottom dwellers) or mongoloid (asian superior race). You are a child of European descent and of ISRAEL. God loves all of his children - this is true - this does not mean we should co-mingle with pure lust and no resistance to the "King Kong" - Jungle Fever" - "Bodyguard" make a mutt rush. Make another mutt like oh bah mah - unbelievable.

              • 1 vote
              #3.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:26 PM EST

              beecent$able

              You have no idea, of what you are talking about. Nothing but sadness on earth is ahead for you. Then you have HELL to look forward to.

              Dummy!

              • 3 votes
              #3.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:10 PM EST

              My sisters and I all married outside our race.

              Honestly, people, there is only one race that matters: HUMAN.

              • 3 votes
              #3.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:08 PM EST

              KNEE-GRO!D (lower suckers and bottom dwellers)

              beecent$able, don't make racist remarks please. You are suspended for a week for violating rule # 5 of the Code of Honor.

              • 13 votes
              #3.5 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:30 PM EST

              Golly, beecent$able, I find it difficult to imagine what it's like living in such ignorance. You could try to educate yourself - try doing a Google search on "genetics" "Origin of Mankind", for example. But this would require abandoning some of that fundamentalist religion mythology...

              Perhaps you can do some homework while you're on suspension?

                #3.6 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:13 PM EST

                You might want to look at per capita crime statistics it will change your mind.

                • 1 vote
                #3.7 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:21 PM EST

                Sally's got beecent$toop cooling his heels for a week...

                ....lets just hope he learns from it.

                  #3.8 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:25 PM EST

                  Guy— Fagkes, good point brother. I just wish that non minorities would stop acting like minorities, having sex with them, eating their food, listening to their music, watching sports and talking like them, living in their countries like s. africa, and most of all buying and singing that damn rap music. Non Minorities don't need any of that crap since we have robbed, stolen, murdered, and raped our way through history already and are now loaded like no other group. We must be blessed by god for our acts of humanity and kindness eventhough we lost our comrade in hate Hitler.

                    #3.9 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:10 AM EST
                    Reply

                    I find it interesting and very telling that 'minorities' clamor to marry into 'non-minority' status, but the reverse is not so true. To me that indicates that 'minorities' want what the 'majority' has but the 'majority' is not interested in what the 'minority' offers. 'Diversity' is encouraged as a means for the 'minority' to acquire the status, social and otherwise, that the 'majority' holds. In other words, 'minorities' want to be part 'white' but 'whites' have less of a desire to acquire the traits, customs or standing that 'non-whites' possess.

                    • 14 votes
                    #4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:51 AM EST

                    You, Guy, are logically challenged. Think through what you just wrote. It makes no sense.

                    • 16 votes
                    #4.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:53 AM EST

                    @Guy: Really? what's that based off of, anecdotal evidence from your family reunions?

                    • 9 votes
                    #4.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:55 AM EST

                    Huh? Mind boggling logic.

                    If minority marries majority then by induction

                    majority marries minority.

                    • 16 votes
                    #4.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:57 AM EST

                    Ok...Let's see... Guy is either, a) redneck, b) racist, c) arrogant, d) a narrow minded jerk, or e) All of the above!! ;O)

                    • 12 votes
                    #4.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:14 PM EST

                    RKapoor hit it exactly right. It is like Yogi Berra saying "No one goes to Toots Shorr's any more. It is too crowded." Apparently Guy didn't do Logic 101.

                    • 4 votes
                    #4.5 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:43 PM EST

                    You all were right on target, but failed to notice your own arrival. When the 'majority' marries into the 'minority' they in fact become 'minority' themselves, meanwhile the 'minority' party gains the appurtenances of the 'majority' even though they remain 'minority'.

                    This is exactly what the 'minority', and some 'majority' members, want; namely the homogeneity that comes from mixing different 'races' while maintaining their own cultural mores and customs without committing to assimilation.

                    Meanwhile the 'majority' is slowly diluted and its customs and traditions brushed aside as either antiquated and not worth saving or outright dismissed as negative and abhorrent while concurrently 'minority' traits are preserved, promoted and trumpeted as positive and 'better'.

                    This is the sticky wicket of 'racism' in the world where pride in one's race and history is acceptable, encouraged and condoned as long as it is pride in a 'minority' history and not a 'majority' history.

                    PS A perfect example lies in one of the above comments where I was potentially labeled 'redneck', a race-based slur, and not one person here thinks that's offensive. Conversely, if I was to label one of the supporters of this article's premise the "n word" or another racially charged epithet it would quickly be denounced and removed as 'insensitive' at best and 'racist' at worst. Not so when the slur is directed at the 'majority'. Hypocrisy in its finest form.

                    • 5 votes
                    #4.6 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:56 PM EST

                    Guy is merely projecting his mindset on to all of humanity.

                    Perfectly normal behavior for the emotionally immature.

                    • 6 votes
                    #4.7 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:01 PM EST

                    It seems to me like a different flavor of racism--white people are generally okay with minorities getting equal rights, but few would marry one.

                    • 4 votes
                    #4.8 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:09 PM EST

                    great comeback hs321. you really showed him! typical minority comeback. no substance, just name calling....

                      #4.9 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:20 PM EST

                      You hit the nail on the head SPARTAN-501. The do so at thier own dis-service.

                      • 1 vote
                      #4.10 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:20 PM EST

                      GUY, Did you even read the article?? It clearly states the opposite of what you stated...So all the articles I've read about racism being linked to low IQ must be true... Idiots fear things that are different..

                      • 4 votes
                      #4.11 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:32 PM EST

                      Guy....I am white, my husband is latino. I married him 43 years ago because I loved him. I still do. We met when he returned from Vietnam. I didn't even know what a latino/hispanic was. Who cares? Our daughter is 40 and was subjected to some name calling. That was upsetting. We have wonderful lives and I wouldn't change a thing.

                      • 4 votes
                      #4.12 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:26 PM EST

                      the root word for diversity is divide

                      • 1 vote
                      #4.13 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:42 PM EST

                      the root word for diversity is divide

                      No, it's Diverse: differing from one another, unlike, composed of distinct or unlike elements or qualities

                      • 1 vote
                      #4.14 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:22 PM EST

                      macz--The word "diversity" comes from the Latin "diversitas" meaning "difference."

                      In English, the "root" might have been "divers"--which in Shakespeare's time just meant "myriad" or "various"--as in "pluribus."

                      I don't suppose you remember "e pluribus unum." One could easily say "out of diversity, comes unity." It means the same thing.

                      • 1 vote
                      #4.15 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:49 PM EST

                      Black guys hassle white girls and tell them they are racist if they don't sleep with them. A perfect example of it is http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2011/02/23/manchester-nh-refugee-boys-attack-12-year-old-girl-knock-out-her-teeth/"Manchester, NH: Refugee boys attack 12-year-old girl, knock out her teeth…." when the 12yo white girl turned down the somoli sexual advances.

                      You dont see white boys knocking out 12yo black girls teeth that wont put out.

                        #4.16 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:37 PM EST

                        Guy Fawkes:

                        Whoa. Okay, instead of attacking you with name calling, i'm going to address your monologue with what I hope is considered 'intelligence' because some of what you said is food for thought.

                        You said:

                        You all were right on target, but failed to notice your own arrival. When the 'majority' marries into the 'minority' they in fact become 'minority' themselves, meanwhile the 'minority' party gains the appurtenances of the 'majority' even though they remain 'minority'.

                        When 'majority' marries 'minority', they don't become 'minority. 'Minority' and 'majority' cease to hold any sort of meaning, particularly in the marriage/civil union/handfast (for those who have 'handfasts or 'civil unions' instead of a 'marriage'--I consider myself handfasted, my husband considers himself married.)

                        You said:

                        This is exactly what the 'minority', and some 'majority' members, want; namely the homogeneity that comes from mixing different 'races' while maintaining their own cultural mores and customs without committing to assimilation.

                        You've just contradicted yourself there, 'maintaining their own cultural mores and customs' is mutually exclusive of 'homogeneity'. True homogeneity is practically impossible in America, as many of American customs, traditions and social mores were assimilated from different cultures. Pizza, hamburgers, hot dogs, fried rice and tacos were all assimilated from different cultures, as was many of our religious beliefs and leanings, and even some of our fundamental ideals like democracy and republicanism.

                        You said:

                        Meanwhile the 'majority' is slowly diluted and its customs and traditions brushed aside as either antiquated and not worth saving or outright dismissed as negative and abhorrent while concurrently 'minority' traits are preserved, promoted and trumpeted as positive and 'better'.

                        This I am not going to argue with, as it is true. Example: Native American spiritual beliefs were supplanted by European religious beliefs.

                        You said:

                        This is the sticky wicket of 'racism' in the world where pride in one's race and history is acceptable, encouraged and condoned as long as it is pride in a 'minority' history and not a 'majority' history.

                        This I do not agree with. Native Americans are increasingly tuning away from the white man's 'majority beliefs' and embracing the spiritual beliefs of their ancestors. White Europeans are popularly considered the 'majority', but are the bulk of them proud of the history of the Third Reich during WWII? Are they proud of the 'majority history' of the Inquisition? Pride in one's race and history are encouraged and condoned so long as the traits displayed are of those which give credit to human beings as a whole.

                        You said:

                        A perfect example lies in one of the above comments where I was potentially labeled 'redneck', a race-based slur, and not one person here thinks that's offensive. Conversely, if I was to label one of the supporters of this article's premise the "n word" or another racially charged epithet it would quickly be denounced and removed as 'insensitive' at best and 'racist' at worst. Not so when the slur is directed at the 'majority'. Hypocrisy in its finest form.

                        A 'redneck' is any light-skinned person who did fieldwork in the sun, resulting in the back of his neck acquiring something of a permanent sunburn. The term is not a race-based slur, it is actually an honorable testament to someone who works hard and disregards personal comfort in favor of achieving a greater goal. There are many people proud of being called a 'redneck' and it is not a 'racially charged epithet' because lighter-skinned blacks and hispanics also can develop a 'red neck'. The N word is a racially-based slur because it derived from a word describing the color of a person's skin (negro, a Spanish word for 'black') rather than a character trait.

                          #4.17 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:00 PM EST

                          steveae said:

                          Black guys hassle white girls and tell them they are racist if they don't sleep with them. A perfect example of it is"Manchester, NH: Refugee boys attack 12-year-old girl, knock out her teeth…." when the 12yo white girl turned down the somoli sexual advances.

                          You dont see white boys knocking out 12yo black girls teeth that wont put out.

                          Sure you do. Here's this:

                          CHARLESTON (AP) — Megan Williams thought she was going to a party.

                          That’s why she tagged along with a woman she says she hardly knew, up a remote southern West Virginia hollow to a run-down trailer surrounded by beer cans, broken-down furniture and bad vibes.

                          ‘‘But there wasn’t no party,’’ Williams told the Associated Press. ‘‘I realized I’d made a bad mistake.’’

                          For days, the 20-year-old black woman was allegedly tortured, beaten, forced to eat feces — rat, dog and human — and raped by six white men and women who held her until Sept. 8. A passer-by heard cries from the shed where she’d been kept, and Logan County sheriff’s deputies found her hours later.

                          Perched in a rocking chair in her mother’s living room, about 50 miles from that shed, the slight woman with cocoa-colored skin says she was outnumbered by people who just wanted to hurt a black person.

                          ‘‘I just hope they fry for what they did to me. That’s really all I got to say,’’ she says when asked what should become of her captors. ‘‘I hope they fry.’’

                          Williams and her family want the torture prosecuted as a hate crime, but no such charges have been filed by state or federal prosecutors. In West Virginia, a hate crime carries a 10-year maximum penalty.

                          Prosecutors also say hate crime charges could complicate their case. Hate crimes are typically prosecuted in situations involving strangers, they say, and Williams knew one of the suspects before her captivity, filing a charge of domestic assault against him in July.

                          ‘‘They just kept saying ’This is what we do to @!$%#s down here’ and ’You’re never going to see your family ever again,’’’ she recalls.

                          Megan’s adoptive mother, Carmen Williams, says her daughter was trusting.

                          ‘‘She’s a little slow, so it’s kinda hard for her to comprehend sometimes,’’ she said. ‘‘So I think that played a big part in it.’’

                            #4.18 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:15 PM EST
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                            Comment author avatarNoneyabusiness-2291315Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                            What makes interacial marriage okay is what makes natural marraige okay, it's between a man and a woman. Anything other than male and female is not a marriage, it is unatural.

                            • 8 votes
                            Reply#5 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:53 AM EST

                            Ahhh. Didn't know the article was about that...thanks for clearing that up.

                            • 8 votes
                            #5.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:54 AM EST

                            I didn't know Mother Nature gave us the institute of marriage. I was under the impression that fallible humans created it.

                            The use of marriage as an implement of discrimination is nearing is end. We here in Washington are in the process of ending the bigoted notion that civil rights somehow don't extend to homosexuals. Bigotry, racism, and homophobia are simply un-American.

                            • 17 votes
                            #5.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:30 PM EST

                            Actually, Steve, bigotry, racism, and homophobia - to say nothing of xenophobia and anti-intellectualism - are historically supremely American traits. Sad but true; although the article implies that recent generations may be willing to try to overcome racism, at least. BTW, congrats to Washington for the passage of its new and enlightened law.

                            • 2 votes
                            #5.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:17 PM EST

                            @Noneyabusiness: Unatural? Naw. Actually, it's just another manifestation of the same Nature. Just as beautiful to that side of Nature as yours and mine is to us. Gotta get over the delusions of fools.

                            • 2 votes
                            #5.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:23 PM EST

                            "Nearly two-thirds of Americans, 63 percent, say it “would be fine” if a member of their own family were to marry someone outside their racial or ethnic group. "

                            @None of your business: This means that if every state had a vote on the ballet this year to outlaw interracial marriage it would soon be illegal in quite a few states. So for some strange reason the government stepped in and overruled people's beliefs/opinions that are still held by the majority in some places. Come to terms why these same people's firmly held beliefs are being infringed upon by having to visually see and deal with such abominations existing as marrying between different races/colors/ethnicity/cultures/social class/age/etc is justified... and you'll figure out why many of us have no problem adding "sex" to that list and listen people scream about another ungodly/unnatural/unapproved-by-me action being forced upon them.

                            By the way, marriage has been traditionally an economic decision where the female involved was treated the same as any other form of property in such a transaction. Tradition and inertia are poor justifications for any action or inaction.

                              #5.5 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:24 PM EST
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                              What next, people marrying children? Horses? Toasters?

                              Why do we accept perversions of nature and allow them to spread in America? God will punish/smite/destroy us for turning away from him.

                              Where do we draw the line on morality?!!!?!

                              ...

                              Do you like my flawed logic? Because that's the argument I see all the time against gay marriage... For the record, not gay, but do support personal liberties. (And am in an "interracial marriage.)

                              • 21 votes
                              #6 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:54 AM EST

                              Ah, I was just waiting for someone to compare this with homosexuality. Thanks for not disappointing me Matt. I am going to make this real simple: We don't CHOOSE our race. We DO choose who we have sex with. See how easy that was?

                              • 3 votes
                              #6.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:05 PM EST

                              I'm all for gay marriage....why should we (straight people) be the only miserable ones

                              • 16 votes
                              #6.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:07 PM EST

                              @Mr Steady: Well you do choose who you marry. So therefore, maybe people should keep within their own kind? Don't want any of those Germans marrying those Italians. We'll have a bunch of fascists all over again.

                              • 3 votes
                              #6.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:13 PM EST

                              Don't hate on person/toaster relationships! Sparks fly in this electrifying relationship!

                              • 9 votes
                              #6.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:17 PM EST

                              so mr steady, when you were a child and thinking of dating, you chose between girls or boys? cause with me, I just noticed a funny feeling in my pants whenever a pretty girl was around, wasn't much of a conscious choice on my part.

                              do you really think with all of the intolerance in this world that anyone would CHOOSE to be gay?

                              btw, get back on target.

                              • 14 votes
                              #6.5 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:19 PM EST

                              Oh, You mean that you haave NOT heard of the woman who "married" a roller coaster?

                                #6.6 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:20 PM EST

                                Mr. Steady, shut the heck up with your outdated, judgemental and uninformed rhetoric. Time for American to shut down these wackos and speak out against bigotry of all kinds.

                                • 9 votes
                                #6.7 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:22 PM EST

                                please please PLEASE enough with the 'choosing to be gay' argument.

                                we don't choose our race and we also don't choose our sexuality.

                                it's how you're born.

                                maybe we should all pay attention to our own lives?? i don't CARE who my neighbor marries! it has NO effect on my life WHATSOEVER.

                                MAYBE if the US paid less attention to what our neighbors were doing, and paid more attention to our jobs, the country wouldn't be in such a bad financial state

                                • 13 votes
                                #6.8 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:23 PM EST

                                Well you do choose who you marry.

                                Thanks for proving my point. When you choose to marry are you not also in effect choosing who you have sex with? Still doesn't change the fact that having sex with your own gender is unnatural and deviant. Before all of you "well animals do it so it must be natural" defenders come on here and bash me, please explain this to me: If it is so natural, then why in order for two females to have intercourse, one must "strap on" an item that duplicates the natural male sex organ? Have you ever heard of two men having penis-to-penis intercourse? Spin it any way you want, it's not natural and any argument saying otherwise does not make it so.

                                Engesq, I am not even going to bother replying to you, so don't waste your time. Same with you, Toasty.

                                • 2 votes
                                #6.9 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:26 PM EST

                                two men would require some kind of docking sleeve...

                                  #6.10 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:38 PM EST

                                  'What next, people marrying children? Horses? Toasters?"

                                  Even worse than those...POLYGAMY!!! AAAAAAAAHHHHHH, those crazy Mormons are going to be able to marry more than one woman!! Hide the children!!

                                  @katrina; So you'd be ok with Polygamy? even interracial polygamy?

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #6.11 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:40 PM EST

                                  BTW, Mr. Steady, you've thought about this a little too much. Sounds more like a fantasy than a complaint.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #6.12 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:41 PM EST

                                  then why in order for two females to have intercourse, one must "strap on" an item that duplicates the natural male sex organ?

                                  lol, your understanding of sex is so archaic and quaint. Sex doesn't need to involve a penis. Fingers and tongues work quite well also... but I'm betting you wouldn't understand that since your idea of sex probably involves, "Lights off, covers up, missionary, ten pumps, 'night honey", am I right?

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #6.13 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:47 PM EST

                                  Matt...mariage is a man created union and the equality of 2 people sharing thier lives is no ones business..especiall the gov't....it's all about money and the insurance companies having to cover another person...NOT about a man and a woman.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #6.14 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:56 PM EST

                                  lol, your understanding of sex is so archaic and quaint. Sex doesn't need to involve a penis

                                  Of course it doesn't. But it certainly is part of it. Would you like to have sex exclusively using your fingers and tongue? That view is just as narrow-minded as you accuse mine of. Of course you had to come up with some argument to deflect the facts, didn't you?

                                  jimsepa: Can't say I think of it a lot, but I would say it is common sense, wouldn't you?

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #6.15 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:58 PM EST

                                  Would you like to have sex exclusively using your fingers and tongue?

                                  There are a lot of women who cannot orgasm from penile intercourse and require manual or oral stimulation to climax. I'm not making this up; it's a well-documented fact. Look it up if you don't believe me. It's on the order of 20% or greater of the female population. So I'm guessing they'd pretty much be fine with just fingers and a tongue... but I guess those ladies let us guys get our rocks off too just as a courtesy.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #6.16 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:03 PM EST

                                  Well, Mr. Steady, since you asked, with a little imagination and creative thinking, it might not always be common sense....

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #6.17 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:25 PM EST

                                  I'm sorry but if a man that has three kids, can come out of the closet after doing so, and say that he is gay than being gay is nothing but a choice. If you don't agree take it up with those men.

                                    #6.18 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:40 PM EST

                                    @ Matt#6: If God really is messing around in such affairs, and I don't think He really gives a damn, one way or the other, I would simply explain to Him to "Get the Hell Out of My Business". Then, if He insisted on punishing me I would cut Him. As to marrying Horses and the like, my own personal preference would be a good clean, range living, Gilt hog. Horses are indeed beautiful, but my personal tendency is more toward that particular hog. She's just so much more sexy than the horse. Course, those who might prefer the Horse, Goat, or Sheep, etc. etc, have as much right to their particular expressions as I. Regards

                                      #6.19 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:45 PM EST

                                      Just a guess: Mr. Steady is an old white guy.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #6.20 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:11 PM EST

                                      We DO choose who we have sex with.

                                      Whom you choose to have sex with is a completely different subject than sexual orientation. Gay people CAN have sex with heterosexual people of the opposite gender, but that doesn't change either person's sexual orientation.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #6.21 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:12 PM EST

                                      Sorry, Mac, but you are one sick dude.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #6.22 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:20 PM EST

                                      Ken-804708 - As a gay man who was married and had two kids before facing my sexuality, I can personnally assure you that I did not choose to be attracted to men anymore than you chose to be attracted to women. I just didn't want to admit it for the first 35 years of my life because of my religious upbringing and society's judgement of gays. I thought if I fall in love and get married, it'll go away. Sorry but that didn't happen. I loved my wife dearly and that along with manual stimulation, and fantasy allowed me to have sex with her during our marriage but I was never attracted to women sexually. I never got that feeling in my stomach or that stirring in my pants by looking at sexy women. That happened for me when I looked at hot guys from as early as I can remember having sexual thoughts. Didn't do anything with another guy until I was 35. I was honest with my ex-wife from the time we started dating about my feelings for other guys but both of us being naive never really thought it would be an issue because we were truly in love. Prayed and read the bible and tried handing it over to God. Did everything I was supposed to do to try and "fix" my orientation but it didn't change my underlying sexual orientation. I know I didn't choose my sexuality because I tried to choose to be straight with my entire being for many years and I couldn't do it. If others have been able to choose their sexuality, then more power to them but it didn't work for me.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #6.23 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:41 PM EST

                                      We DO choose who we have sex with

                                      Sex partners are a choice - sexual orientation is not. Big distinction there, Mr. Steady.

                                      And since society has not, in fact, totally collapsed due to interracial marriage, it's time to extend marriage equality to all consenting adults, regardless of the gender make-up of the couple.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #6.24 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:42 PM EST

                                      Just a guess: Mr. Steady is an old white guy.

                                      And you would be wrong. You think the only people who believe homsexuality is wrong are old and white?

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #6.25 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:47 PM EST

                                      lacywild:#6.22: Hope your remark was "tongue in cheek", as was my post #6.19, I assume to which you are referring. Even so, I may indeed be a little looney. My dear wife tells me I am certifiably so. Meant no offense. Regards

                                        #6.26 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:52 PM EST

                                        Gay people CAN have sex with heterosexual people of the opposite gender, but that doesn't change either person's sexual orientation.

                                        So if you were truly born gay, why would you have sex with someone of the opposite gender? Then there is the question of bi-sexuals. Don't they have to choose whether to have sex with the same or the opposite gender? So now there is a third way you can be born? All the arguments I have seen against my statements are simply deflection from the facts. As much as you want to believe that homosexuality is natural, you simply can't prove that it is.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #6.27 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:59 PM EST

                                        Katrina - our parents chose our race. There was no chance that I would be born a black crack baby.

                                        You cant have diversity if everyone is the same. Why are we not talking about ethnic wars going on in africa today of one type of black vs another? The only people who would win with gay marriage are divorce lawyers.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #6.28 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:42 PM EST

                                        So now, I'm suppose to believe that a gay man can have sex, to the point to where he can orgasm inside a women but yet he's still gay. Other gays tell me that if a man is truly gay he couldn't have sex with a woman under any circumstances. That in their opinion is how someone can tell if he is REALLY gay or just bi-sexual.

                                          #6.29 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:43 PM EST

                                          Allen-marriage is a God created union- Genesis 2:23-Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. God created woman for a help mate for man, to be his wife, partner, lover. So why do you feel this is a man-made concept???

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #6.30 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:52 PM EST

                                          Marriage also exists in non-Judeo-Christian societies, and existed before Judaism.

                                            #6.31 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:20 AM EST
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                                            So basically we will all be the same color in 50-100 years?

                                            • 4 votes
                                            Reply#7 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:54 AM EST

                                            Yeah, somewhere in "beige spectrum." Oh wait, we're there already. Because white people aren't white, and black people aren't black. We have "off white" and "dark beige."

                                            There'll probably always be variation, but when you think about it, we're that way now. I think the more interesting part is that eventually everyone will be "part everything."

                                            • 5 votes
                                            #7.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:57 AM EST

                                            Amen

                                              #7.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:58 AM EST

                                              lol we all came from the same color now we are going back to that color.

                                              p.s color of ur skin doesnt realy matter because we all are human, so as long the girl looks good i dont have a problem with skin color.

                                              • 3 votes
                                              #7.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:09 PM EST
                                              Comment author avatarKevin TraylorExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                              Sad that people don't have any respect for their race and are slowing remove it.

                                              • 3 votes
                                              #7.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:12 PM EST

                                              And that's exactly what the 'minorities' want and the 'majority' does not want. For some reason it's all right to be proud of racial heritage and purity as long as you're not 'white', but not acceptable to keep 'white' bloodlines homogenous. Compare and contrast the two phrases 'black power' versus 'white power', and the attitudes and reactions towards each, and you might see what I mean.

                                              • 7 votes
                                              #7.5 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:20 PM EST

                                              thank god I'll be dead and buried by then...interracial marriage...? hmmm...I believe its all about the mystique about the overly endowed nubian that strikes the caucasian female's mind and the superior feeling the nubian gets from having his white trophy at his side..or rather in his bed...I'm of sicilian decent and anyone who knows world history should know that sicily was invaded by the moores in the 13th century and tried to change the race back then...so I guess you could say that my ancestry is half black but I wouldn't even consider marrying a black person...my curiosity doen't run that deep....I have mixed (black/white) in my family...I have nothing against any race of people however I do believe that each race should stick to its own...but its a matter of personal choice...as long as it don't interfere with my personal life I couldn't care less who the neighbor or my sister or daughter marries...they are the ones who have to live with the choices they make...not me

                                              • 4 votes
                                              #7.6 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:24 PM EST

                                              have you seen what Americans have turned into? fat, lazy, and stupid... I see no problem with all in trading up to a beautiful, industrious, intelligent Japanese woman. I have plenty of respect for MY race, especially the race that my new family is creating (not so much a "master race" but much better than yours).

                                              my kids will be running the world some day- American can-do mixed with the famous Japanese work ethic!

                                              btw- most of this is tongue in cheek, I don't really think I am better than anyone, just hate when people infer that people who follow their hearts instead of societal rules are somehow "abandoning their race"...

                                              ps- I'd have a lot more respect for you Kevin if you could write one sentence that made sense (wtf is slowing remove it?)...

                                                #7.7 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:28 PM EST

                                                no offense, old dog, but you ARE Sicilian, you ARE half-black, so who are you to say that races should "stick to their own"? are you self-loathing? If not, you must be very confused...

                                                • 6 votes
                                                #7.8 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:30 PM EST

                                                Sad that people don't have any respect for their race and are slowing remove it.

                                                So you've decided you don't want to be a human? Keep it up, you're doing an excellent job making the change.

                                                • 3 votes
                                                #7.9 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:15 PM EST

                                                Yea but unfortunately IQ is at least 50% genetic.

                                                In the words of Nobel prize winning geneticist Dr James Watson:

                                                Watson] is "inherently
                                                gloomy about the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies
                                                are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all
                                                the testing says not really."

                                                "...
                                                there is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of
                                                peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have
                                                evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some
                                                universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so."

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #7.10 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:44 PM EST
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                                                Betty, I couldn't agree with you more. Whether he admits it or not, Obama is bi-racial. He's only black for votiing purposes. If the world woudl just get busy and interbred with the other races then there would only be one color, Human. Then being black, white, brown, yellow, etc. would have nothing to do with who gets to go to college, promoted, hired. It would be the individual and their qualifications that would matter. The world would be a better place.

                                                • 6 votes
                                                Reply#8 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:58 AM EST

                                                President Obama does not need to "admit" to being bi-racial. He talked about it all the time during his campaign. I find it ironic though that whites are the ones historically that labled anyone with a drop of black blood as black, but they now feign offense when the individual calls himself black. The reality is that from the begining, the President has been treated the way other blacks are treated, by some citizens - with disrespect. As a conservative, I do not agree with most of his policies, but I do respect his role as the President.

                                                • 9 votes
                                                #8.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:33 PM EST

                                                Amen, logicalbabyboomer63! It would be sooo much better for our country if those who oppose President Obama would simply admit that they do so for (inter)racial reasons, and not because they refuse to embrace the progressive ideas that might enable us to finally enter the 21st century.

                                                • 4 votes
                                                #8.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:31 PM EST

                                                Ever notice that the only people who consider President Obama biracial are the people who have a problem with the fact that his father was black?

                                                • 4 votes
                                                #8.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:16 PM EST

                                                Nah, his father was red.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #8.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:15 PM EST

                                                What is wrong with not wanting the entire world to look alike?. Why is it racist to reject the whole melting pot/diversity rule of thought. Can't someone disagree with wanting everything the same without being branded a racist. If i choose to hang around with only a certain color or type of person, but have no ill feelings or animosity towards others who interact with more diverse types, why is that considered racist. I would never spew old, stereotypical vitriol as that isn't something i proscribe to but if my feelings are that i want to be with someone who looks and has the same interests as me, why would that not be just as normal as a person who only wants to date outside their type?. i feel just as sorry for the race baiters who bash and carry on about other races and cultures deficiencies as i do the white girls who pronounce they will only sleep with a black man. Both sides are narrow minded in their thinking. Racism should just go away in this day and age. There haven't been slave owners for hundreds of years and nobody alive should continue to be persecuted or ashamed of acts committed by ancestors long since dead. It just keeps the argument going long past it's shelf life. Racists and their Nemesis on the other side of the aisle need to get over their own hate.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #8.5 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:15 PM EST

                                                Yuck. I would like my baby to look like the rest of the family. If you can't love one of your own, maybe you need to change.

                                                  #8.6 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:38 AM EST
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                                                  I'm a black female and my boyfriend is white. I don't need anyone's endorsement to be with him. My parents told me that their main job was to see that they raised me to be a decent human being. It was not their place to tell me who to fall in love with.

                                                  • 10 votes
                                                  Reply#9 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:07 PM EST

                                                  Amen Coltsfan. I'm a black female and I have dated black, white, and asian men. I don't care about skin color. I just appreciate a man who treats me with respect and love. My dating had nothing to do with "curiosity" like some posters on here. When you find a good person to spend your life with, race will be the last thing on your mind. If you got any common sense, that is.

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #9.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:34 PM EST
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                                                  glad to hear that there are more mixed raced marriages which could result in a more tolerant society in which my son is also of mixed races.

                                                  • 7 votes
                                                  Reply#10 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:09 PM EST

                                                  Are you still with the babby daddy?

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #10.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:46 PM EST

                                                  why do you need to know?

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #10.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:05 PM EST

                                                  which mixed races and who is of what race?

                                                    #10.3 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:50 AM EST
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                                                    Someone has to marry those large white women.

                                                    Oh calm down, I'm only serious.

                                                    • 10 votes
                                                    Reply#11 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:12 PM EST

                                                    By the way,

                                                    I hope people understand I'm just making a funny. Everyone needs to be able to laugh at themselves & their situation. That said, I in no way want to be associated with the racists posting their comments here. Whenever you get someone arguing for the apparent superiority of white DNA,

                                                    it's very clear that you have some very impure DNA doing the talking, and it should be scrubbed, bleached & eliminated from the gene pool.

                                                    • 4 votes
                                                    #11.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:43 PM EST

                                                    Women are always looking for a man of color to marry.

                                                    The greener ($) the better.

                                                    • 10 votes
                                                    #11.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:16 PM EST
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                                                    I am happy that all the races are getting along, but some have said that all people should have color. In generations to come there will no longer be a caucasion race. This saddens me as blond hair and blue eyes are beautiful and darker always prevails.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    Reply#12 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:13 PM EST

                                                    Just because recessive genes are overshadowed by the dominant ones, doesn't mean they will disappear entirely. If you understand genetics, and the complexity of the human genome, while there will not be a distinct "race" there will still be variations due to gene expression, albeit in a sort of random, infrequent fashion. You won't have your "nordic-rooted pureblood" Aryans any more... but you will still see the occasional blonde hair-blue eyed person.

                                                    • 7 votes
                                                    #12.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:15 PM EST

                                                    If I might add, the recessive blond gene will still show up from time to time.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #12.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:12 PM EST

                                                    And if I may add, the very term 'Aryan' applies ethnically and linguistically to people of Iranian descent. Possibly the most unfortunate misnomer of all time!

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #12.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:35 PM EST

                                                    It sadden you? seriously? Does it sadden you that you may never see dark black people? Didn't think so.

                                                    There is no shortage of blue eyed, blond people.

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #12.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:13 PM EST

                                                    Anyone ever read "The Lathe of Heaven?"

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #12.5 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:17 PM EST

                                                    Unfortunatly IQ is at least 50% genetic

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #12.6 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:47 PM EST
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                                                    I am white. I am proud of it. I do wish my family would all have the same pride as I but unfortunately you can not force your will on other people and they have to suffer their consequences for their actions. My oldest daughter was with a white man and they had a child. He istrash, white trash, and all ways will be worthless and no help to society what so ever. Then after that she fell in love with a Latino guy. He seems to be a good worker and a good person BUT, He is illegal. So when he gets deported my dear beutiful smart daughter will have two kids to raise without any help other than me. It doesnt help that the child she has not birthed yet has a medical issue. And possibly a deformity. Yes I am bitter but it goes to show you being worthless trash is interracial. And that has no boundaries.

                                                      Reply#13 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:14 PM EST

                                                      boo hoo...if she loves him that much and he is here illegally she should pack up her and him and the kids and go to mexico and see if they let her stay there illegally...

                                                        #13.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:28 PM EST

                                                        How does immigration law work with married couples? If you marry an American, don't you automatically get to stay?

                                                        • 3 votes
                                                        #13.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:13 PM EST

                                                        I think there is a waiting period to get citizenship after a non-resident alien marries. It's to ensure the marriage is legit and not just to provide citizenship.

                                                        • 1 vote
                                                        #13.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:56 PM EST

                                                        Marry the guy and he would have gotten a green card. there's a wait but he wouldn't have been deported.

                                                        • 3 votes
                                                        #13.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:16 PM EST

                                                        irock, if its any consolation to you, being "white" is not a pedigree. You are a mutt as we all are. Try doing a Google search on "genetics" and "origin of mankind" - you'll discover that we all originated from Africa. Yes, if you go back far enough our ancestors were black. The characteristics we all developed, such as blonds from Scandanavia, or brown skin in Mexico, are all consequences of inbreeding and responses to the environment as groups migrated to other parts of the world.

                                                        • 1 vote
                                                        #13.5 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:01 AM EST
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                                                        why is it always a white woman and a black man ?

                                                        • 4 votes
                                                        #14 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:15 PM EST

                                                        because most black women are not quite as attractive to a white man as a white woman is to a black man...gee whiz...I'm not even a rocket scientist ..!!!

                                                        • 7 votes
                                                        #14.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:30 PM EST

                                                        it's not...

                                                          #14.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:33 PM EST

                                                          Old dog - ever stop to think it might be the other way round? You demonstrate a tinge of racist overtures. Could it be the african has something the european doesnt? Let's not generalize.

                                                          • 2 votes
                                                          #14.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:39 PM EST

                                                          because black woman are not usually attracted to white men.

                                                          • 1 vote
                                                          #14.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:47 PM EST

                                                          May be if we humans turn beige - we'll all get along just fine...hehehe

                                                          • 1 vote
                                                          #14.5 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:04 PM EST

                                                          "why is it always a white woman and a black man?" Not always. If you look at some interracial marriages from the 1930s to 1970s, it was mostly White men with Black women. A Black man with a White woman didn't pick up until the mid to late 1970s. A White man back then was far less likely to get killed by his interracial marriage, perhaps only banished. A Black man might find himself dead for touching let alone marrying a White woman.

                                                          • 3 votes
                                                          #14.6 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:39 PM EST

                                                          Don't worry dude. Its really B- minus and lower White women anyway. You really don't see B and higher looking white women marrying blacks. Doing black maybe, but not marrying them.

                                                          • 3 votes
                                                          #14.7 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:54 PM EST

                                                          Ken, ever seen any pics of Heidi Klum, formerly married to Seal?

                                                          Tell me she's not an A+.

                                                          • 5 votes
                                                          #14.8 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:58 PM EST

                                                          @hs321: Now hold on a minute -- you're missing the color involved here: Green.

                                                          When you reach a certain social standing, the only color that starts to matter is green...

                                                            #14.9 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:09 PM EST

                                                            why is it always a white woman and a black man ?

                                                            I could tell you, but it would give you a serious inferiority complex. Let's just say that for some women, size matters.

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                                                            #14.10 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:20 PM EST

                                                            @flbikerchick: I've found that most women really care about the size of what's in a man's pants... and it's his wallet.

                                                            They might screw around with the other guy, but the one they want to marry is the one that "makes it rain."

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                                                            #14.11 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:46 PM EST

                                                            its called social engineering. most of the time the media presents white women with black men. when thats all they see maybe white girls start thinking that is the norm.

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                                                            #14.12 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:09 PM EST

                                                            macz, I think thats some of it. But black women with white men are met with more hostility, esp. from other black women. I myself have experienced that. I don't understand it, but it has happened. I actually had one person say I was 'trying to be white'. Uh, not possible. I was trying to date a man I liked spending time with. I didn't date him because he was white. People make me so frustrated. You should be able to date, marry whoever loves you.

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                                                            #14.13 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:43 PM EST

                                                            Thus demonstrating the hypocrisy of racail dynamics.

                                                              #14.14 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:39 PM EST

                                                              The black size myth was exposed by the leader of the black panthers Quandel X. If you google (11yo gang rape black panthers) you will see that a non black 11yo victim was in the same class as 15+ yo black boys. Since she was in middle school this shows that blacks can be several years older in the same grade. So the myth comes from 11yo that have not failed grades seeing 16yo black boys and thinking they are the so much bigger than the 11yo white boys.

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                                                              #14.15 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:52 PM EST
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                                                              I classify myself as multiracial. I'm a little bit of a lot of good stuff. French, Native American , English, Irish and African American. I'm very proud of my heritage and I believe in celebrating it all.

                                                              Peace and God's blessings to all this day.

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                                                              Reply#15 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:19 PM EST

                                                              As a bi-racial young women (black and white) I will say this: Most parents are not equipped to raise mixed children. It is a committment. I see alot of people shelter a child in one culture, and do little to expose them to the other. Other than that Love is whats most important. But if your going to reproduce with another culture, at least educate yourself on the other parents culture, it seems like the new trend for young women to have a "mixed baby" but children are not accesories!!

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                                                              Reply#16 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:20 PM EST

                                                              Good post Danielle. However these days it seems many parents are not equipped to raise children, period. It's a problem that transcends race.

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                                                              #16.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:30 PM EST
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                                                              When I was a young woman my mama always told me to look with my heart I would see what mattered most. I am a white woman who has been married to a Hispanic man for almost 15 years.

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                                                              Reply#17 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:22 PM EST

                                                              I am married to a native American woman who is beautiful. I'm as white as a ghost. As I grew up the division of races was in practice in the small town I grew up in. It took a lot for me to realize that line of thinking was and is ignorant. I have found that culture is more importaint than skin color and that culture not skin color will keep us divided or bring us together.

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                                                              Reply#18 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:23 PM EST

                                                              Why is this news? Anyone remember after WW2 all the Japanese war brides. How about the vetnam brides, Hispanics marrying just to stay here. Again why is this news?

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                                                              Reply#19 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:24 PM EST

                                                              The thoughts that flow through some people's head just baffles me, the fact that they actually are allowed to flow free just dumbfounds me.Different ethnicities didn't just fall out of the sky or crawl from under the rock(contrary to some beliefs) but were put here to coexist.Kudos to the couple that could get past the difference in colour and make it work.

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                                                              Reply#20 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:25 PM EST

                                                              i cannnot believe the racist comments in here. wish i did not even read the article or comments.

                                                              le sigh.

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                                                              Reply#21 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:25 PM EST

                                                              Fortunately the majority of the remarks are against racism and in favor of inter-racial marriages.

                                                              Focus on the majority.

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                                                              #21.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:03 PM EST
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                                                              Back in the 1970s a pair of my parents' best friends were a mixed race couple, black and white. The man was a dentist, and I think his wife was a teacher. I was born and raised in the South and so were my parents, my dad was a true cracker - people today would probably mistakenly call him a redneck. But my parents taught me that respect is earned, and that race shouldn't be a factor in that process. Looking back as an adult and at how things were in those days, it amazes me that my parents had that attitude, but I'm glad they did.

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                                                              Reply#22 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:26 PM EST

                                                              We have many races in our family. We love them all. Todays political environment has created a "divide" amongst many races and genders. It is sad that someone who said they would be a great "uniter" turned out to be nothing more than an ideaolog with an agenda.

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                                                              Reply#23 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:27 PM EST

                                                              I am in an interracial relationship (I am white, he is black). People's viewpoints have definitely progressed in the last decade. We still get stares and comments from time to time (typically from senior citizens), but in general people are much more accepting than they were 10 years ago.

                                                              My family is a different story - they will never accept anyone for me who is outside of my race...which is odd since I am a blend of many ethnic groups including native American, Scottish, English, Irish... They still have the "what will people think" attitude. My response - who cares. I am with someone who loves me, treats me with respect and is a wonderful person. I don't care if he is green or purple, it is the person that counts.

                                                              As far as the comment about white people not wanting to adopt the culture of minority groups. I believe that is saying you are buying into stereotypes. I believe every culture has wonderful traits and characteristics to bring to a relationship. You learn from others who are raised differently from you and you learn how to see the world in a different way. I know I am a better person for having met him and in the end that is all that matters.

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                                                              Reply#24 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:28 PM EST

                                                              Wonderful!

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                                                              #24.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:41 PM EST

                                                              msrmfp....Perhaps it is something that the younger generation does not understand about their parents and grandparents, but it's not necessarily about black and white. It also has to do with the continuation of the family. My oldest daughter married a black man and have a gorgeous son who we both love. But, he is black. It is a 180 degree turn in my family lineage. If I were black, I would want my children to marry black, because I would want my heritage to continue. It is a desire to have one's descendants look like him/her. Do not dismiss this as racist, because it has been a deeply seated desire in mankind for millenia.

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                                                              #24.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:58 PM EST

                                                              once you go black you don't go back

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                                                              #24.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:11 PM EST

                                                              Big Bill, I understand what you're saying. No, its not racist at all. But for me, I am more concerned about the family Name than physical traits. I am black but as you pointed out, most people are mixed with other ethnicities anyway. Your family name is the only constant really. My great, great granmother was the daughter of a white slave owner in cuba. She fell in love with a slave and ran away, here to america to marry. I am proud to be decended from people who were willing to go for what they want and fight to get it. My biggest dream is to visit all the countries in my blood line, cuba, africa, scotland..so far.

                                                                #24.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:59 PM EST

                                                                once you go black you usually become a single mom

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                                                                #24.5 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:54 PM EST

                                                                Once you go black the kids will never come back, to me there is nothing worst you could do in life you sold out every generation of your family. But worse look at every nation that went black it's intelligence died Greece 3000 years ago mixed now it is a has been nation Italy same thing. Every nation that went black has never gained it intelligence back so thank you for helping return humanity back into homo erectis the pre human animal.

                                                                See what you did was reverse evolution or the destruction of all life.

                                                                  #24.6 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:01 AM EST
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                                                                  I am in love with the most lovely white women that I've ever met, but I married a black women first when I was young I married out of love and what my father wanted from me at the time.

                                                                  But that didn't work we just could not talk to each other.

                                                                  The women I'm in love with we talk to each other the is no fighting no name calling none of the pain I went though with my exwife.

                                                                  I use to ask was it because she was black or was it because I had a different out look of the world that made my marriage not work.

                                                                  I now know that it was just not ment to be. Color does come into play sometimes but most of the time it's just because we are in love with each other and that makes her and me happy.

                                                                    Reply#25 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:30 PM EST

                                                                    So! Who trully give's a rat what you married? "I first married black...." and you now found a white mine? Who cares apart from you? All I can say is, too many brothers have left their children without dads to persue that "I-gat-to-have-some-white-lady" thingy. That's if you're not in some jail.

                                                                    Anyway enjoy!

                                                                      #25.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:11 PM EST

                                                                      @ava8harrierusmc1-4161647

                                                                      "no fighting no name calling"

                                                                      As a man married to a white woman I can assure you that they are capable. :)

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                                                                      #25.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:30 PM EST

                                                                      You should have found a good black women and not destroyed this women genes. She she went black the kids will never come back and it would have been better if her parents had given birth to a women with enough common sense to carry on the genes of her ancestors.

                                                                        #25.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:07 AM EST

                                                                        robert180197, your ignorance is evident in both your terrible grammar as well as the content of your post. Guess what? Your ancestors, as well as the ancestors of the rest of us were black.

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                                                                        #25.4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:05 AM EST
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