NYPD 'courtesy cards' for family, friends sold online

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For years in New York City, it's been customary for police officers to hand out "courtesy cards" to family and friends, but an I-Team investigation has found some of these cards are being sold to strangers on the Internet.

Some who hold the cards -- wallet-sized pieces of plastic emblazoned with the logos and names of various labor unions representing NYPD personnel -- believe that flashing the card could help them win leniency from police during traffic stops for minor infractions.

Favoritism from police was a supposed selling point when NBC New York's I-Team recorded video of a sales pitch from a civilian middleman who brought an assortment of union cards on a South Brooklyn street corner.


The I-Team set up the undercover sale after discovering a website called Gifts 4 Kings maintained by Lester Magliano, a man who claimed to sell the cards on behalf of retired detectives and sergeants.

Magliano agreed to meet at a gas station near his home. It was there he was caught on hidden camera attempting to sell the courtesy cards.

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“You see? It says PBA,” said Magliano, as he showed a card from the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association.

“I get them from a detective. I get them from sergeants,” said Magliano. He said he sells the cards for a profit, then gives the money back to the retired police officers who gave him the cards.

His most expensive item was a Sergeants Benevolent Association card sold in tandem with a miniature badge and black case etched with the NYPD logo, along with the words ”family member.”  It was being offered for $200.

But does $200 get you out of a ticket if you're pulled over? It depends on who you ask. 

Ed Mullins, president of the SBA, told the I-Team the cards do not buy any favoritism from police.

“It’s not a guarantee to get you out of a traffic ticket, and for the prices they’re charging for these cards on the Internet, it’s really a ripoff,” said Mullins. “You’re being robbed.”

Mullins said the cards are simply a courtesy, and dozens of people in New York City who don’t have union cards get out of tickets every day simply by being courteous and respectful to the officers who pull them over.

But Seth Borsuk, a pharmaceutical sales representative from Long Island, believes his chances of wiggling out of a recent seat belt summons would have been vastly improved had he owned a courtesy card.

“Colleagues of mine, who are in the car every day, have these cards. They’ve been relieved of multiple infractions,” said Borsuk. “Unfortunately, I have no connection to law enforcement so I have no chance of getting the cards."
 
Instructions: 'Make up any name'
In Magliano’s sales pitch, he said he has personally used union cards to get out of traffic tickets on multiple occasions.

He also explained how a person should show the card or mini badge to a police officer while simultaneously retrieving her or his driver’s license.

“They’re going to ask, ‘Who do you know on the job?’” said Magliano. “Make up any name, and they’ll just say ‘Drive carefully’ or ‘Put your seatbelt on.’”

After the sales pitch, the I-Team bought one sergeant's union card and one detective's union card from Magliano. After the I-Team revealed to Magliano that his sales pitch was caught on hidden camera, Magliano changed his story, insisting he was selling the cards for collectors' purposes only.

The I-Team presented the newly purchased SBA card to Ed Mullins, who said he would seek to put Lester Magliano out of business.

"After we do this interview, I’m going to be speaking with our attorneys and we’ll begin an investigation,” Mullins said.

The Detectives Endowment Association had no official comment.

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These should simply be illegal. Cops helping their families evade the law. That says a lot about the state of law enforcement today, and it is not good.

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Reply#1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:57 AM EST
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dude these cards work great got me off murder last week and a home invasion the week before.

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#1.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:48 AM EST

I agree - The sole purpose of these cards is to identify the person carrying it as a family member or friend of someone in law enforcement. This is to get the person preferential treatment if they are ever stopped by law enforcement, setting up a preferred class of people who are not going to be subject to the same laws and penalties as everyone else. There is no justifiable reason for these cards to be issued to friends and family members of law enforcement officers. They should be eliminated in their entirety, along with the mini "courtesy shields" that are given out for the same purpose. Flashing one of these cards during a traffic stop should also be made a crime as it is an overt attempt at influencing a police officer not to do his job similar to a bribe.

  • 37 votes
#1.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:08 AM EST

What do u expect law is just for citizens that have no connections same as having a sticker from fire dept on your car, the law is only for some thats justice

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#1.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:29 AM EST

Will this work better than the doughnut I usually carry in my wallet?

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#1.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:46 AM EST

Well since they are not illegal, can I have one please?

  • 4 votes
#1.5 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:22 PM EST

It's no different than the corporations that back politicians. Such as Goldman Sachs backing both Obama and Romney, thinking they'll get preferential treatment by either administration once they're in power. Anyone foolish enough to vote for one of the status quo candidates shouldn't mind the preferential treatment some people get from cops.

I say all bribery is wrong, whether it's the law enforcement or our politicians, that's why my vote is going to the only one that won't sway his vote. He strictly votes for the people, by the people, according to the constitution, every time!

Ron Paul 2012!

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#1.6 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:26 PM EST
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I agree.

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Reply#2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:00 AM EST

OK, why isn't anyone pointing out the obvious??? Why should ANYONE get special treatment under the law? Why should the friends and family of law enforcement be treated special?? I find the printing and distribution of ANY kind of card or badge to ANYONE who is not a police officer to be offensive to the rest of us. It reminds me of the Soviet unions practice of treating the members of the Comunist Party as first class citizens and everyone else as second class. This is NO DIFFERENT!! No one deserves special treatment. This is descrimination - don't people see that?

  • 28 votes
Reply#3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:11 AM EST

These are nothing new. My two good friends from high school both had cops as fathers. They both had a courtesy card. This is back in 1980!

Back then, they were fool proof. If the infraction was traffic related, these cards were 99.99% effective.

That said, the cards had the sponsoring police officer's name on it. This way the cop who was doing the traffic stop could verify both the card holder and the cop who issued it. If he knew your dad, you most likely were going to get an ass whoopin when you got home.

Not saying it's right... I'm only saying they've been around for years. The reason for them is simple... the sons and daughters of police officers are going to get out the ticket anyway. This was a way to cut down on the workload involved of removing tickets on-the-sly. It prevents them from being issued to begin with. Again, not saying it's right... only that this kinda thing has been around for decades.

  • 11 votes
#3.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:01 AM EST

you r right what a sick world a friend of mine works for a cops father he was told if u get pulled over drinking or anything say u work for me now this has worked more than once even a ticket ripped up in his face and said why didnt u say that before lol justice my ass and he is only a cops father

  • 6 votes
#3.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:34 AM EST

it is not descrimination if you purchase it. you have a right to purchase if you want. It should be a crime to have one or to buy or sell one that will close the door maybe??

  • 3 votes
#3.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:16 PM EST

in my state the cops get badges that go on the license plates so their families don't even get pulled over

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#3.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:20 PM EST
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Of course this happens. The "understanding" didnt just appear out of thin air. Have you ever heard of a cop getting ticket? They call it "professional courtesy."

  • 14 votes
Reply#4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:14 AM EST

Well, there is the website "cops writing cops" (I don't know if it exists any more - it's worth a look). These are rants posted by cops who have gotten tickets, and the whining and entitlement would be pathetic if it weren't so scary. Invariably, the offenders complain that the cop who wrote the ticket was "unprofessional", etc., and they never seem to see the irony.

  • 16 votes
#4.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:34 AM EST

Unfortunately we know that this professional courtesy extends to spousal abuse, drug crimes and abusing suspects....

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#4.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:57 AM EST
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Not always true. My brother-in-law is a cop, his wife thought she'd get preferential treatment because of it. She'd drive around with one of his hats in the back window. One time she was pulled over for speeding, so she tried to use his cop status " Oh, my husband is going to be so upset with me." The copy replied "Why" She said "Because he's a cop for XYZ department." The cop pulling her over just said "Well, then you should know better, shouldn't you!"

  • 23 votes
Reply#5 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:41 AM EST

well there's one incident, i'm sure she's gotten out of others though. even if she hasn't i know from personal experience that 2 wives of police officers i know have gotten out of running red lights, not stopping at a stop sign and speeding using them.

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#5.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:50 AM EST

I agree. Don't think though that the kids are getting off scott free. When my husband gets pulled over and the cop finds out who his dad is, He lets him go and then calls his dad. My husband, who is a grown adult, then gets to explain why he choose to break whatever law he was breaking. My husband even has to apologize to the Command staff for his behavior and how he is not representing his father when he makes poor choices. So, we may not get tickets but normally we would rather a ticket than the lecture and apologies that the kids must do instead.

And to the articles point, if you are nice to the officer and it is a minor offense. You can normally get off with a warning. Just admit what you did and apologize. Officers are so used to people saying "It wasn't me" that honesty will get you a long way. So next time the officer says "Do you know why I pulled you over?" you say "Yes, I was going 50 in a 35 because I wasn't paying attention. I am sorry."

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#5.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:22 AM EST

Tia, I guess things must be different in Oklahoma. I have had a license for 20 years now, and received a sum total of 4 tickets. How many times have I ever been pulled over? ...5 Three tickets for speeding and one for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. Every time I have accepted responsibility, been very respectful, and explained why I was doing what I was stopped for.

1st Ticket - new car and was going 83 in a 70 zone on the interstate, and had no idea I was going so fast. I explained this to the officer and apologized for speeding. Result - Ticket.

2nd Ticket - Going 55 in a 45 because I was late getting my son to football practice. Result - Ticket.

3rd Ticket - Going 43 in a 25 because I was stupid and didn't realize the speed limit (former dirt road recently paved, but still the same speed limit). Result - Ticket.

4th Ticket - Very early in the morning I came to a stop sign at the intersection of a divided highway, thought I stopped completely and crossed the intersection (I saw the state trooper the whole time). Again, I didn't make excuses, just said I must not have been paying close enough attention and apologized. Result -ticket.

5th Time (No Ticket) - I was speeding (68 in a 55) to make it to the nursing home before my wife's grandmother passed away. In that instance the trooper let me go with a warning.

All that to say, I don't buy the whole argument that if you just be nice and don't make excuses, then most of the time they will let you off. Of course I am a man, and it could very well be different for men versus women.

  • 7 votes
#5.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:57 PM EST

Wow, Tia, you are one entitled, spoiled, piece of work.

You think an apology is hard?

Here in MA, insurance is required by law and a single ticket will make someone lose their good driver discount of 15-20% and increase their regular insurance rate by another 20% for the following three years (minimum) so this means a ticket costs the driver thousands beyond the original fine.

I think the rest of us would like the same opportunity to hear a lecture and apologize to avoid such penalties.

I wish I had the words to effectively communicate how awful a person I think you and your law-dodging family are, but I'm so frustrated that I'm reduced to a combination of grunts, sighs, and various hand gestures.

Thanks for offering up more proof of what awful people cops and their families truly are. Looks like we can add another brick of shame to that wall of blue...

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#5.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:14 PM EST

"I am sorry, Iwas going 50 in a 35 because I wasn't paying attention". Tia, really?? if you knew it was a 35 zone, you knew you were breaking the law. So, you lied to the officer, he knows it, and 9 out of 10 times you will get a ticket, unless you are shoving the card or badge in his face. Next time you get stopped, don't mention who your father in law is, and see what happens to nice, but lying.

  • 3 votes
#5.5 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:20 PM EST
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They call it "professional courtesy

This is not professional courtesy. This is cronyism, pure and simple.

  • 25 votes
Reply#6 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:44 AM EST

It's also cowardice and lack of honor, particularly when they claim at the same time to be held to a higher standard.

  • 12 votes
#6.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:47 AM EST
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Hello people. Worried about these get-out-of-jail free cards. Get a vanity plate with a police, fire or EMS affiliation and you will not even get pulled over in the first place, or parking tickets.

  • 9 votes
Reply#7 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:46 AM EST

in other words the police are corrupt. shocking!

  • 12 votes
#7.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:51 AM EST
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Cops rarely ticket other Cops. Look at the DUI numbers; cops off duty are the lowest number of DUI tickets but among the highest DUI fatalities. They only get caught when someone dies.

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Reply#8 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:54 AM EST

Why do these cards exist in the first place? I had one from an LAPD officer. I didn't ask for it, he was just a friend and gave it to me. I never used it, because I never got a ticket. Also, what is the deal about flashing a union card? That is corruption at the highest level for sure.

  • 10 votes
Reply#10 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:16 AM EST

I think it depends on what corrupt state or city you live in. My next door neighbor here in UT is a Cop and his wife just got a speeding ticket for going 30 in a 20 Mph zone a couple of weeks ago. No special favors here as far as I know.

I remember growing up as a kid in IL., back in the '60s that if you got a ticket in Chicago, you paid it on the spot, kind of like Mexico.

  • 4 votes
Reply#11 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:25 AM EST

Just another New York City quirk.

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Reply#12 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:25 AM EST

its all n america

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#12.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:41 AM EST
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Boo to preferential treatment.

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Reply#13 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:28 AM EST

If the cards actually do not work then ban them. If they do work then give them out free to everyone. Problem solved.

Honest to god, this is just absurd. How does being a friend or relative make you any more or less deserving of a break for a traffic stop? That would imply that friends and relatives are somehow special, true? And if justice is truly blind then what effect does my carrying such a card have on the fact that I really was guilty of a "rolling right turn" aka Hollywood stop?

I'm just surprised this turned up in New York rather than here in California.

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Reply#14 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:28 AM EST

If you don't think that it is not in Calif. you are dreaming. In 1993 I opened a new business (all new businesses information goes to the police) and soon received a call from a local police outfit asking for a donation to support the police's DARE program. Having just put almost every dollar into my business I put the caller off. He quickly informed me that with a $500 donation I would get special stickers with the local police's emblem and a statement "I support the local Police" for my car's bumper and for the business's front windows. These stickers would keep me from getting any tickets from all California law enforcement agencies and that my business which was in an area that had experienced a number of break-ins would get better protection. After explaining that I had always been a supporter of the police but that I was currently out of cash he started threatening that the police knew where I lived and what kind of a car I owned as well as where my business was. I asked for his name and badge number; he hung up. I called the police and made a complaint over the phone. I was told that yes they had a drive for DARE currently going on but without knowing which officer was involved they could do nothing. The officer that I made the report to confirmed that some officers did give out the stickers for a large donation but that the stickers would not guarantee anything extra as far as he knew. He recommended that I drop my complaint as nothing good could come from it. I told the guy who owned the business next to me about it and he showed me the sticker on his truck and said that he had been stopped by police several times for speeding and that when the officer saw the sticker on the truck they thanked him for his support and guess what - NO TICKET I really felt that I had been shaken down but I took my chances and never paid them.

    #14.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:44 AM EST

    John;

    You should learn that the people that call you soliciting cash for these programs are NOT Police Officers. They ARE a fund raising outfit that takes a significant cut of the money that is donated as there fee. Check it out on line, There are plenty of websites that will expose the scams.

    The "sticker" this guy offered you is pure nonsense and any cop that bases issuing or not issuing a ticket on it is NOT a good cop.

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    #14.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:39 AM EST
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    The best way to not get a ticket is to not get pulled over. Don't talk on your phone, text, go through red lights, wear your seatbelt, and make sure your passengers wear their seat belts. Those are 95% of my tickets.

    Here's how the typical car stop goes:

    Cop "License and registration, you were stopped for talking on your phone, going through a red light, and your 2 year old is not in a car seat"

    Motorist "I'm sorry" and hands over PBA card.

    COP "who gave you this?"

    Motorist "my cousin"

    Cop "Where does he work, what's his name?"

    Motorist "I don't know"

    Cop "you don't know your cousins name? Call him"

    Motorist "I'm sorry"

    .....it goes on and on ending with the motorist getting a summons.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#15 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:28 AM EST

    After a google search, I rescind my comment. Still, considering the PBA card at all is not helping this story.

    • 2 votes
    #15.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:37 AM EST

    So what if he can tell you where he got the PBA card? Do you let him off then?

      #15.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:06 PM EST

      I think it's spelled Captain Moron

        #15.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:52 AM EST
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        The fact that these cards exist at all is ridiculous!

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        Reply#16 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:31 AM EST

        Of course, no one commenting here has used their friend/relative's connection to get them a discount/job/special deal on anything. No one has lied to get out of a speeding ticket. I love this righteous indignition.

          Reply#17 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:33 AM EST

          So there are cards you can show to get yourself out of a traffic ticket? Ok.........I now officially oppose unions. They did some great things in this country, but this is one abuse too far.

          As for trying to prosecute the guy who sells these things? That won't happen because so long as the officers claim there is no preferential treatment, they can't come up with a good reason why a person shouldn't sell them if they obtained them lawfully in the first place. By pursuing legal action, they are admitting what these cards are.

          • 4 votes
          Reply#18 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:34 AM EST

          lol how can u blame a union they dont give the cards to friends and relatives

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          #18.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:44 AM EST

          My understanding from the article and an internet search is the union prints them up to promote brotherhood among officers. I don't think they officers would do this by themselves (or at least hope not).

            #18.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:19 PM EST
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            It's part of a "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" system. It's not just friends and family that get these, it's a plumber who fixes a leak at a patrolman's house, or a favorite restaurant owner, or the guys who install a new kitchen for a detective. If you are a blue collar guy this a way in which you can be thanked for a job well done. Every business has this, not just cops. If you do a good job on the electric at the home of a dentist maybe he'll give you a free cleaning for your kids. Send some business towards a neighbor's company and he'll install a free sprinkler system in your yard, etc. This card isn't going to protect you from a serious crime and heck, it's been going on since the colonial days. Sometimes you don't even need a card if you have a name to drop so the card is just a formality, and besides it doesn't always work. Make sure you don't hand a county PBA card to a trooper - he'll give you an earful!

            These cards are no different than if you contribute or donate to law enforcement or police sponsored youth sports and display the little sticker in your window. It hasn't got a thing to do with being in a union.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#19 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:38 AM EST

            There's a big difference between bartering services and being held to a lower standard when the law is applied.

            Does this mean I have to rake a cop's leaves before he'll investigate when my house gets broken into?

            But, of course, I knew it would only be a matter of time before somebody said, essentially, "But everybody does it". Do you think a cop would accept this excuse?

            • 9 votes
            #19.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:50 AM EST

            Excuse me, but cops are not "service providers" in the sense that they are entrepreneurs who do things like clean your gutters or grout your bathroom tile. Their authority exists in order to maintain order and safety within our society. Justice and order are not commodities to be bartered based on who you know. These cards are not "professional courtesy" - they are corruption, pure and simple.

            • 4 votes
            #19.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:10 PM EST

            No, it doesn't mean you have to rake a cop's lawn. That's hysteria. But certainly if you had a close personal relationship with an officer it probably wouldn't hurt to speed things along!

            Cops have discretion with how they choose to enforce the law or whether or not they believe a punishable crime may have been committed, that's why it is possible to talk your way out of a ticket in the first place. It is also why cops don't just bust everybody who goes 10 MPH over the limit - they are waiting for bigger fish! They are exercising discretion. Would you rather have robots and cameras just handing out impersonal summons without any form of human recourse? That is the alternative to ending the discretion of police officers and most people loathe it. These cards are not a system. They are an extension of a form of name dropping that exists in every police force on the planet, even in your town. In fact the cards probably cut down on this form of leniency. The cards are single use. They certainly won't work unless you have a name associated with it, so the guy selling them is just ripping people off.

            We all rely on our personal connections and human skills to get us out of tickets or for other uses in life. Is it wrong to drop a name when applying for a job because it is unfair to other applicants? Is it wrong to get preferential treatment and lower prices when buying a car because you know the owner's son? If you can find a way to influence an officer's discretion in your favor you would use it too, whether that comes in the form of a card or a flirty look. Don't be so quick to knock it. Besides, we aren't talking about serious offenses here.

            I knew a kid who got out of being arrested because he did a stint in the military (in peacetime). All of his friends got arrested. They were publicly intoxicated. This type of thing is as old as time and if you can't find an advantage for yourself when dealing with the law, looking for a job, buying services, etc. then you aren't trying hard enough. The world runs on human relationships.

              #19.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:28 PM EST

              Of course police should have discretion. But not based on whether you're carrying the right card or not. Your examples all involve commerce, not justice - what SHOULD be two totally different realms. I acknowledge there is some overlap, but the ridiculous cards that cops hand out only encourage unequal treatment. And you site all sorts of innocuous examples, but I know of more than a few cases where people have gotten out of far more serious offenses, like DUIs. In commerce, you work your connections, but in law and justice, everyone should be starting from the same level - anything else goes against the principles that underlie our entire government.

              • 2 votes
              #19.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:25 PM EST

              the police are NOT a business, they are meant to be executing the law, not making deals and favors, as this is actually ILLEGAL. the cards should be illegalized as they are an instrument of corruption. if someone deserves a ticket, their status as a friend to police is irrelevant and profiling comes into context. just another form and sign of the ingrained corruption and just another form of nepotism. its bad enough that most cops act like teenage boys with a gun, possibly the most uprofessional group as a whole. just another way for the police to break the law while hiding under the umbrella of the police, always protecting the injustices carried out daily because they are the "police"...what a joke the police have become in our country

                #19.5 - Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:23 PM EDT
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                What? What?

                Questionable activity from the NYPD?

                Say it ain't so.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#20 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:41 AM EST

                So...no one posting here has ever lied to get out of a speeding ticket? No one posting here has ever used a friend's/relative's discount or connections to get anything? Gotta love the hypocritical righteous indignation!

                  Reply#21 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:44 AM EST

                  The reaction from LE depends heavily on the officer. I have a gold NYPD courtesy badge from a close relative which I never push in the face of the LEO I am speaking with. I let it be discovered in my wallet and it has been met with courtesy by some and I have been told by a PA State Trooper to remove the badge from my wallet because it is not legal in the state-mind you the Trooper was speaking to me because i was hit by a drunk driver. It's amazing how little some LE know about the law. I don't think it is as much about being a union member as I do showing your support for those on the job. However, if you are honest and respectful when getting pilled over your chances of getting out of the ticket are far greater. I have been "let go" more times than not by using a little honesty, courtesy, and flashing my U.S.M.C tattoo than from a courtesy badge.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#22 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:44 AM EST

                  So, You are crooked and "accidentally" flash the badge, to try and get out of a ticket. You CERTAINLY don't DESERVE a "Gold NYPD Courtesy Badge" as you've NEVER been a law enforcement officer. Nope, you like being a part of a crooked system> Instead of angling for a "special" treatment, man-up and take your ticket and punishment and QUIT playing "marine".

                  • 1 vote
                  #22.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:47 AM EST
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                  "After we do this interview, I’m going to be speaking with our attorneys and we’ll begin an investigation,” Mullins said.

                  Of course he says that now since the press blew it for him. I will look forward to the follow up story on this investigation, yeah right.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#23 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:48 AM EST

                  I know someone who has this card. According to him, he's gotten away with a warning instead of a ticket three times. To all those who have stories like this one "I know someone who had the card and they still got a ticket", these are the exceptions to the rule. To all those who state that just drive safe and follow the rules, then you won't get a ticket. What about all the times people don't follow the rules and don't get a ticket because they had this card - see the irony in what you're saying. To people who whine about how they get a lecture - that's a lot cheaper than - higher insurance, court fines, points on license, losing your license, etc. I'd take the lecture any time - after all, it doesn't cost me as much financially. To all the people surprised it was NY or it was cops, why are you surprised? - I never was. Doctor's give professional courtesy to colleagues and family. Family gives more to their family and friends than the stranger in the other town. What did you think a cop would do, if he tries to ticket someone who's related to a professional colleague? Who wants to deal with bad office relationships? Also, to anyone who has a relative and gets a ticket, here's a word of advice. Go to court and contest. At least 50% of the time, the officer who gave you the ticket won't be available in court, ergo - ticket gets voided.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#24 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:48 AM EST

                  From reading the comments what amazes me the most is that apparently many people didn't even realize these cards existed.

                  The reality is they'll only get you out of a ticket that a cop would have let you go on anyways. The fact that you've supposedly contributed $ X to the PBA, Sheriff or State Trooper just sways them a little quicker. They'll also yank the card from you if you try and use it for something there's no way they're going to be able to avoid ticketing you for (e.g. DUI). And don't think you're going to get any special treatment from one branch of enforcement just because you contributed to another.

                  Now I don't know whether NYPD still hands out the big gold plaques you could attach to your bumper reserved for "big" donors/supporters. Those things were pretty much a pass ensuring you didn't even get pulled over in the first place.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#25 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:50 AM EST

                  How come you never see a reporter write a story about another reporter tell me please. I guess they dont cover for each other. No that would be a conflict of interest.

                    Reply#26 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:53 AM EST

                    I see stories about reporters all the time. If you would like examples, let me know.

                    Also, why would it be a conflict of interest?

                      #26.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:09 AM EST
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