You wouldn't want to POLLUTE the land fill now would you?

I say stick him in wood chipper and feed this bastard to the Coyotes!

Coyotes are opportunists they're always looking for a snack!

Just because his mother and sister have done nothing wrong that we are aware of, I suggest that they cremate him and keep the ashes themselves or bury him on their own land. Anywhere they bury him, his tomb is likely to be desecrated because people are so angry at what he has done. If it were only him and not his mother to think about, I would say dump his ashes on a dung heap.

Dump him in a local landfill.

That's the right on man. You said it all.

You can dump him in a landfill.

He will just rot and turn to methane.

OR you can bury him somewhere where we can attach a funnel directly into his coffin.

Then pave a nice road up to it with a sign that says "Rest Area".

Sheriff's Sgt. Ed Troyer and Sheriff Paul Pastor are awesome, throw the POS out in Puget Sound for fish food!

Thankfully the family has recognized the absurdity of burying him anywhere near the boys. At least they are showing some class even though their narcissistic SOB family member felt the need to take his boys with him when he committed suicide. I am sure that the sheriff or his sergeant will gladly relinquish one of the plots next to the boys if their mom's remains are ever found so that she can be buried with them. As for Powell, they should cremate him and dump his ashes at sea. Any grave site for this a-hole will only wind up being a target for desecration with so many people outraged by what he did.

Dump him out of a plane deep into the desert ... and let nature take it's course!!!

OR ... into an active volcano and post the decent AND DISAPPEARANCE on YouTube .....

"We felt very strongly that it wasn't appropriate to put him anywhere near the boys, and we did our best over the last 48 hours to convince her to do something different," he said. "It wasn't that hard to convince her — she just got started off on the wrong path."

i.e They harassed her until she caved.

Dump him from a plane into a live volcano and post his free fall and disappearance on YouTube!!!!

If she raised a monster like him and was married to a pervert like pops then she must be a fruitcake too. Clueless isn't exactly a word that would describe her.

You know what, I feel bad for Josh Powells mom. Here is a woman who had nothing to do with the fact that her son turned out to be a murdering tool, yet she is trying to do the best she can to bury her son. Here is a woman who is mourning the death of her son and grandsons and everyone appears to be ostracizing her by buying the plots in and around her grandsons. I understand that people feel strongly about this but this woman is just trying to honor her son that she loved, even if he is a POS. I hope that someone is helping her figure this out instead of making things difficult for her.

One more thing, to gramgigi, I bet your parents didnt raise you to be an a-hole but here you are. Did you ever think that she had nothing to do with her son turning out the way he did and obviously it was the perverted dad? I know a lot of people who are great and they have one or two kids that turned out to be somewhat worthless. It wasnt their fault. Everyone has personal choice and Josh made his. Think before you open that big pie hole on your head.

feed this guy to the hogs .

Jodeman ~~ I tend to agree with you. I really haven't heard anything about the mother's involvement or lack of involvement. Tragic that her husband is a sexual deviate (I think she probably knew he was a sexual deviate, but probably didn't know it involved kids) so she's dealing with that issues; she was dealing with the issue of her daughter in law missing; dealing with the issue that her son was a suspect in that disappearance; dealing with custody issues; dealing with her other children's issues surrounding this; and now dealing with the thought that her son not only blew himself up, but took the grand kids with him. TRAGIC, TRAGIC, TRAGIC, no matter how you slice it.

I am glad however, that the creepy Josh Powell will NOT be buried next to his children that he so selfishly, cruelly, and fiendishly murdered.

@Reni-1459961

I agree with you completely. That is the point I was making. I dont think he needs to be buried anywhere near his kids but his poor mom more than likely had nothing to do with this. Help her figure something out, dont condemn her to more grief by making it harder. She lost a child and two grandkids, she loved them all no matter how f-ed up her kid was.

Jodeman - She should also honor her murdered grandsons, who I'm sure she loved also, by not putting their murderer in the same cemetery as them.

Who knows, his mom may have him cremated and a few months down the road, quietly scatter his ashes over the boys grave. No one would even know.

His mother doesn't deserve to be treated poorly. She did all she could to get her son away from his evil father, but unfortunately Josh became just as much of a psycho if not more. Both his sister and his mother cut all ties from Powell senior.

That being said, his mother and the rest of the family need to understand that what their relative did was evil and unthinkable. The excuses they are making for him are out of line! No one drives anyone to kill their own children. And no innocent man would take the coward's way out.

They need to have SOME shame in all of this, even though they weren't responsible. They need to show respect to the people Josh hurt before they think of their own grief. It is unfortunate that they can't grieve like a normal family would. But they aren't exactly a normal family, are they they now?

His mother doesn't deserve to be treated poorly.

Agreed, she's suffered too. I agree that they should just cremate her son and have her intern the ashes somewhere away from her grandsons.

" You are what you know" therefore I believe that while the mom is not guilty of anything( that can be proven or we know of ) his parents must beheld accountable in how he was raised. Ignorance is no excuse for poor parenting with all things available in the world and on the news as to where to get help. Even the poorest and dumbest seem to know 800#'s for assistance.Ignorance in looking the other way???? As his parents do have every right to grieve(afterall it was their son and grandsons) but I think it needs to be done quietly, privately and without further news frenzy. Susan,her sons, are together with God where "dad" can no longer hurt them. He saved us all money by taking his own life. Those boys are now God's smaller angels and are finally in good hands.

I say keep him preserved.... Next time BP has an oil leak at the bottom of the gulf you can use him as the plug.

original post from,

Robert in Oregon:

'snickerdoodle' wrote: "Dump him in a local landfill."

'gloria fabiaschi' wrote: "You wouldn't want to POLLUTE the land fill now would you? I say stick him in wood chipper and feed this bastard to the Coyotes! Coyotes are opportunists they're always looking for a snack!"

'Betty-301392' wrote: "...I would say dump his ashes on a dung heap."

'GoldfishTheDestroyer' wrote: "That's the right on man. You said it all."

'Viewer_Ready' wrote: "...you can bury him somewhere where we can attach a funnel directly into his coffin. Then pave a nice road up to it with a sign that says "Rest Area".

'Crystal-569996' wrote: "Sheriff's Sgt. Ed Troyer and Sheriff Paul Pastor are awesome, throw the POS out in Puget Sound for fish food!"

'JS in SD' wrote: "As for Powell, they should cremate him and dump his ashes at sea. Any grave site for this a-hole will only wind up being a target for desecration with so many people outraged by what he did."

"THE WAY IT IS' wrote: "Josh Powell body will be found no matter where they bury it and hopefully the SOB POS Evil Bastvrds body will be broken up into pieces and the parts driven to different far out areas and thrown in landfills in various States so his sick family can not go to one place and mourn over this Evil POS."

'newscover' wrote: "Dump him from a plane into a live volcano and post his free fall and disappearance on YouTube!!!!"

'gramgigi' wrote: "If she raised a monster like him and was married to a pervert like pops then she must be a fruitcake too..."

REPLY: You all should consider counseling. Get a grip on your rage.

WRONG- BOBBIE! (spelled like a girl on purpose)

They don't need counseling when they speak the TRUTH!

HOW can you feel ANY sympathy for some P.O.S that slits their kids throat then burns 'em?

Robert, counseling is for wimps.

You might want to join the normal humans once in a while yourself however.

We miss you!

Exactly according to the opening of the story the press states he killed his children in a house explosion-fire. That is wrong. He took a hatchet and killed them both in a bloody violent horrible attack. The set the explosion-fire which destroyed the bodies.

As a mother and a grandmother I feel for Powell's mother. I understand her wanting to bury her son by his boys but yet if I was her I would cremate him and bury him some place else at a later date.

Hopefully they will find the boy's mother and join her with her sons may they rest in peace.

Last I heard, they all died of smoke inhalation... ??? Meaning, he TRIED to kill the kids with the hatchet, but didn't get the job done. Meaning they suffered immensely and were scared to death. That's the part that really breaks my heart.

AZ Rancher:

Actually, it was reported that the boys had smoke in their lungs-which means they were still alive when the house went up. Yes, it was a bloody, violent, horrible attack, but the smoke in the lungs shows they weren't dead at that moment. Hopefully they were at least unconscious

Although I can find it in myself to feel some pity for Powell's mother-not much, admittedly, but some, I feel it was completely out of line for her to even think about trying to put his remains anywhere near those boys.

I mailed out my contribution this morning...

"Robert in Oregon wrote: "You all should consider counseling. Get a grip on your rage.

'Zeitgeist' wrote: "WRONG- BOBBIE! (spelled like a girl on purpose) They don't need counseling when they speak the TRUTH! HOW can you feel ANY sympathy for some P.O.S that slits their kids throat then burns 'em?"

'Viewer_Ready' wrote: "Robert, counseling is for wimps. You might want to join the normal humans once in a while yourself however."

REPLY: I extend my original admonition and advice to you both, as well. You both make the false assumption that I feel sympathy for the perpetrator of a crime. An illogical assumption given there was nothing in my post from which you could draw that conclusion.

All of you are vocalizing and demonstrating disproportionate rage; especially given that none of you has any sort of personal relationship or involvement with those affected by this awful case. Disproportionate rage leads to disproportionate acting out. Always best to get that in check, sooner rather than later.

As an aside, if one or more of you sit piously in your Church pew on Sunday mornings you might also want to pay a little more attention to the lessons of understanding and forgiveness which are offered there; because one could conclude from your words and quickness to lash out that you aren't paying attention. Get a grip on your rage.

If this moster is cremated, we must make sure his remains aren't put on those children. I hope they find Susan's remains or better yet her. I know neither is likely, but will hope some day someone will find some answers.

Robert in Oregon-In what part? Am an Oregonian as well. People say hateful nasty things when their upset and angered by such horriffic things such as the senseless murder of these two boys and likely their mother. It's a very disturbing thing to think about some sick animal destroying innocents. At the time it hardly matters that the guy is likely severely mentally ill and likely an abuse victim of his fathers. Steven an Josh Powell both seem to most of us like sick twisted wastes of human beings and the desire for an equally horrible ending for them doesn't seem like a bad idea at all. While pretty much all of us will never have any sympathy what so ever for Josh Powell in time we'll calm down and not feel as blood thirsty as this perpetrator. Just chill out and give these posters a break. Most don't need counseling, just the opportunity to vent. We all need to vent now and then. Its what keeps us relatively sane and stops us from actually being violent instead of just being verbal. And Robert, have seen your posts on a few stories, don't think you have all that much room to cast stones.

I say cremate him and his dad(who helped dispose of his wife) and flush them down the toilet.

We are all speculating on what happenned to Susan and I don't think that its our place to make judgement on powell. Leave it alone and our maker will take responsibility for what needed to happen.

@THE WAY IT IS: are you sure the mom knew what her husband son were up to and that the boys were sexually abused by grandpa and dad?. i'd watch what i accuse people of until you have the facts.

kudos to the sherrif for buying up the plots.

REPLY: You all should consider counseling. Get a grip on your rage.

And Robert, you need to get a grip on your dementia... or whatever it is that makes you impervious to rational thought.

I hope I NEVER get over the rage I feel when an adult would Consciously harm a child in ANY way, let alone like this. What has happened here is so horrific that people are doing what they can to deal with their outrage, and this is one of the ways they choose to do it.

There are some things in life that clearly justify this level of rage, and this is one of them.

So why don't you get over your self-righteous sanctimony and come join us! Come on.... you know you want to...

What happened to the Powell family is horrific and my heart breaks for Susan Powell, her 2 beautiful children and her family. That said, it is all together unthinkable that any one of you on this Newsvine would think it your place to make such malicious and judgemental comments about Josh Powell's mother. As to the sheriff and his deputy buying the burial plots adjacent to the plot where the 2 babies are buried, I believe they over stepped their personal and professional boundaries. It is not their place to get this personally involved. Rather, it is the place of law enforcement to remain objective in all matters that come before them. The disappearance of Susan Powell and the death of her children at the hands of their own father is heinous enough. But adding insult to injury is just nonsensical. It's time to let these babies rest in peace and pray that Susan Powell's remains, if she is now deceased, be found and that she be buried next to them. Wishing more violence or desecration on Josh Powell's grave and/or remains is just plain ignorant and indicative of psychotic breaks with common sense, if not sanity itself. I encourage all of you who have engaged in this bash fest to get some help like yesterday.

Damn Robert, I feel better now.

Oddly though, I feel compelled to pay your for your efforts.

Tell me where to send the check.

To Robert. Dear God! Quit being such an idiot. As a mom of 3 and stepmom to 1, I can tell you that I would be FURIOUS with anyone who would hurt my children. Rage? You're absolutely right. If we are able to express our anger we can deal with it better. I am a firm believer that not one person would actually do the things they are suggesting, they are angry and in shock just like everyone is. How a parent can do that to their own children is something we cannot wrap our minds around. That doesn't deserve therapy, it's called being human! What deserves therapy is someone who tells people that they're wrong for being angry and in shock. This was certainly someone who was very troubled mentally. And since you brought up religion, let me say that God does ask us to forgive and we certainly should. However, forgiveness does not mean that you should forget or agree with what happened. If we don't get angry enough to stop these things from happening they will continue to happen. We need to protect our children the best way we can. I never got the impression that anyone here was 'sitting on their pious Church pew on Sunday', what I got were human beings expressing their disbelief at such a tragedy. You cannot tell me that you have never been angry with someone. What you need to do is get over yourself and quit acting like YOU'RE all high and mighty. As the Catholic Church Secretary, I can guarantee you it's okay to be angry about what this (I refuse to call him man or even human being, so we'll just go with 'thing') thing has done. Political Correctness has gotten so out of hand when you can't even express your feelings without some nutjob telling you that you require therapy for your feelings. Good Grief! P.S.-Yes! I really am the Church Secretary and I approve this message! ;-)

Of course the Powell family will not bury him there..after reading about what people will do..I for one will dig up that POS and his well done extra crispy bones and deposit them piece by piece to every stinking rat infested landfill I find!

Doubt even the EPA gives a chit!

@Asknreceive1: Why is it that you think the sheriff and sergeant have no right to protect and/or advocate for victims? They're people, too, and I think it was a very decent gesture on their part to protect Susan's family. The legal/judicial system really let these children down, and I'm sure plenty of people in law enforcement feel lousy that they weren't protected.

You seem to be confusing the expected impartiality of the judicial branch with the executive branch.

@Mr Miller - 447368

Please explain what all your rage will accomplish? It wont bring back those boys. It can do no more harm to their father. It won't prevent future killings like this as this story proves.

If you or anyone else actually think that raging like some of you are is going to help anything with this situation then i'm sorry to say you people need to seek some help. Raging like some of you people are is only causing stress in your life. It's doing nothing for the boys or their father.

We all feel terrible for the boys but all this hatred and all this rage is doing nothing but causing you people the pain and suffering.

Try to be smart and think for once instead of letting rage control your thoughts because i'm sure if some of you actually read what you're saying here, you wouldn't have posted it in the first place.

The Perfect place to bury this POS would be an active Volcano!

The Volcano is almost identical to where he ended up in hell.

Isn't mount St Helena active right now?

Rest in peace boy's, Hopefully they find your mother and she will be next to you someday~

How very CHRISTIAN of you all to just say "hope he rots in hell" -- when you DO NOT know what REALLY was going on in his head. Perhaps you all will change your collective thinking when it is YOU who are on the receiving end of your own hatred.

Does it matter what was going on in his head?? HIs actions were to hack his sons and roast them alive!!

"dispenses' wrote:

"To Robert. Dear God! Quit being such an idiot. As a mom of 3 and stepmom to 1, I can tell you that I would be FURIOUS with anyone who would hurt my children."

REPLY: As would I, if someone hurt my children. But these were not my children, and they were not your children. Horror, is a natural and proportionate reaction. Revulsion would be a reasonable and proportionate reaction. Rage however is a disproportionate reaction to a news story which does not affect your own life.

"Rage? You're absolutely right. If we are able to express our anger we can deal with it better."

REPLY: Are you aware that in modern psychology it is accepted that "anger" is not actually an emotion, but rather is a response to an emotion (such as fear, disappointment, revulsion, horror, for examples). If one accepts that precept, then "Rage" in response to a distant event involving individuals unrelated to ourselves merits taking full measure of our emotions and what may really be going on inside.

"I am a firm believer that not one person would actually do the things they are suggesting, they are angry and in shock just like everyone is. How a parent can do that to their own children is something we cannot wrap our minds around. That doesn't deserve therapy, it's called being human!"

REPLY: I accept without question that you believe such remarks are harmless venting. I believe, however, there are many whom often verbalize their 'rage' and act out in writing on these discussion threads who are also predisposed to real violence (be it in public or in private, domestic). And that sort of disproportionate unchecked rage is dangerous to all of us.

"What deserves therapy is someone who tells people that they're wrong for being angry and in shock."

REPLY: Counseling proportionality, and getting a grip on one's rage, is not telling people they are wrong.

"This was certainly someone who was very troubled mentally."

REPLY: I couldn't agree with you more. The acts committed by this man seem to me to be evidence of insanity; sane people do not kill their children. If you accept an insanity precept, that these were the acts of an insane person, that alone should moderate the level of rage directed at that individual (even after his death) and even directed toward that persons living, grieving relatives.

"And since you brought up religion, let me say that God does ask us to forgive and we certainly should. However, forgiveness does not mean that you should forget or agree with what happened."

REPLY: My comment suggested the lessons of understanding and forgiveness. I did not argue nor suggest we should "forget" or "agreeing with what happened."

"If we don't get angry enough to stop these things from happening they will continue to happen. We need to protect our children the best way we can."

REPLY: I agree that we need to protect our children the best way we can. I disagree, however, if your argument is that getting angry and raging on an online discussion thread is an effective and appropriate way to "stop these things from happening."

"I never got the impression that anyone here was 'sitting on their pious Church pew on Sunday', what I got were human beings expressing their disbelief at such a tragedy."

REPLY: Again, that was not my argument. My actual comment was "if one or more of you sit piously in your Church pew on Sunday mornings you might also want to pay a little more attention to the lessons of understanding and forgiveness which are offered there." ("Piously" merely alluding to "having or exhibiting religious reverence; earnestly compliant in the observance of religion; devout.")

My point was/is, for those of us who are people of faith and who attend Church, we would be well served to pay attention to the lessons of understanding and forgiveness ... and actually apply it in our lives (rather than raging disproportionately on anonymous discussion threads).

"You cannot tell me that you have never been angry with someone."

REPLY: Of course not. And I didn't make that argument either. Nor is that comment even relevant to the subject discussion. You seem to me to have read an awful lot into my post which wasn't actually there? Why do you suppose you saw so much in my post which wasn't there. Are you angry at me, too? Why would that be?

"What you need to do is get over yourself and quit acting like YOU'RE all high and mighty."

REPLY: I hardly know how to respond to that, so I'll leave it alone. I argued for moderation, and for getting a grip on rage.

"As the Catholic Church Secretary, I can guarantee you it's okay to be angry about what this (I refuse to call him man or even human being, so we'll just go with 'thing') thing has done."

REPLY: With all due respect, I do not think your job actually gives you any special authority to speak for my Church, the Catholic Church, nor to "guarantee" anything; nor speak for any other adherant practitioner but yourself. You do not speak for me.

"Political Correctness has gotten so out of hand when you can't even express your feelings without some nutjob telling you that you require therapy for your feelings. Good Grief!"

REPLY: So then I take it your point is that I must be "some nutjob" because I argued for several of the people posting some pretty over-the-top statements at the beginning of this thread they should "get a grip" on their rage?

I see ...

This all so much a NON-issue...he was a whack job, they are all dead and all the praying and hand wringing won't change a thing. If there really was a god crap like this would not happen.

Robert, thank you for your comments! You have essentially assessed the situation correctly! There is far too much rage out there regarding something that does not affect those venting their misguided and misdirected rage. The man is dead! Let them bury him wherever they please, including beside his two sons. It makes absolutely NO difference! None of those buried will object! It is doubtful that most of the population will have a desire or need to visit any of the graves. Those preposterous statements about digging up the man's body and mutilating it are absolutely asinine! Robert, just consider, those making these outrageous statements probably have a much lower educational level and IQ than you do. It is useless to argue with them. They have a certain caveman barbaric mentality. Probably letting them express their pitiful pathetic rage is ultimately harmless. For police to actually use personal funds in such a way, and to attempt to raise funds from others for such a purpose, reveals that they have little to do. Are there no good hiking trails in the area? Are there no little old ladies who might need to have their lawns mowed?

What I would like to know is, WTF kind of a judge would allow a monster, to have visitation with his kids? I hope his decision haunts him for the rest of his life.

We don't know the mother, but she's probably suffering.

That said, the fact is that wives and mothers almost always know. Women, (except possibly those with testosterone overload), have a sort of radar. They may not know the details, but they know when something is wrong.

Victims of childhood sexual abuse who are unable to make peace with it usually go in one of two directions psychologically--either they are extreme pleasers or they become violent.

She almost certainly knew for years that both her husband and her son were sick and twisted. She may have been a victim herself, but at what point should women be held morally--not legally--responsible for protecting others?

Unless a woman has brain damage from too much testosterone, there is not a wife and mother on the face of the earth that doesn't know her husband is messing with her kid. She can deny until her last breath, but she's a liar, even if she's mostly lying to herself.

Do women have a moral obligation to stop abusive husbands and/or sons?

Proud of the Sheriff and the Sergeant for doing this. Very Kind of them. These boys had no shot at peace thanks to this heartless man. At least the family of the boys can gain a little peace knowing that they won't have to pass this animal everytime they want to visit the boys. He shouldn't even be buried in the same town much less next to these precious children. My prayer is that the mothers body can be found and placed in 1 of the graves next to her children.

Kudos to that sheriff and Sergeant! I got chills when I read that. I also love the fact that those children will be "protected" so to speak, with a law enforcement officer on either side for eternity. What a sweet ending to such a horrific story.

As far as the Dad, throw him off a cliff for all I care. Let the animals get at his remains. He deserves no compassion.

If this had been by Susan's family with the intent to be buried next to the children that would be understandable. But it's not. It's from some cops who really didn't give two craps about these kids. This is ego, not touching. This is just pettiness to make up for the fact that they completely failed these children while they were still alive. Honestly this is more a PR move to distract from the fact that Law enforcement took their sweet ass time to respond to the threat and it cost two young their lives. I don't see buying the plots as absolution but obviously for many here it's good enough.

@bologna. Your idea of a sweet ending is a bit skewed.

Some Lame Name Here...the article I read said Susans family did not want him buried near the kids

what is wrong with cops acting to serve their community...they even put their own money up

the political spin you are "trying to sell" here reeks of anger & deep resentment

sure is a lot of your kind of negative sentiment re authority figures rolling around these days !

are these people supposed to be invincible superheroes before you say Thanks...

Please tell me how preventing him from being buried next to his children is serving the community? And pray tell what is my "political spin"? Am I angry or do I just not buy the bullsh*t? And after one of your family members is murdered by a King County sergeant come back and talk to me about negative sentiment regarding authority figures. Police Officer doesn't always = good person. King County sergeant Mathias Bachmeier murdered James Wren when he possible saw Bachmeier commit arson on his own house for insurance fraud. Google it.They don't have to be invincible superheroes. Just being a decent person would suffice.

#1 Following your logic, there is not one person who would ever be thanked because someone else who held their job somewhere else did something reprehensible to someone at sometime.

#2 That community is still reeling from that gruesome murder and if anyone has to explain that to you, then there is no way you will comprehend. You either "get" community at your age or you will perpetually have no clue.

#3 The word political is not always applied to political parties...check it out.

#1 I doubt you ever Googled Mathias Bachmeier so for your point # 2 your talking out of your ass. Unless something like this happened to a family member of yours, as I have, you are not talking from experience just your opinion. If you haven't had something like this happen to you or family member then I have more in common with the Powell family than you do. Actually all your points your talking out your ass.

And my point is that just because they are law enforcement doesn't mean they did what they did for altruistic reason. And once again Police Officer doesn't always = good person. And I never said Police Officer automatically always = bad person. Please Please quote me where I wrote that political = poitical parties

talk about emotions all over the place...gee do you ever have an lot of baggage

nothing is automatic...nothing...even thanking police

but people on this post were expressing their gratitude & you "shat" all over their parade...you may think that's a great thing to do because you have your own issues (hence the term political spin)...

just letting you know that I support this community, the injured family members & the police officers who are trying their very best to do something beneficial for this family...too bad you have to slam these people & then think you are so smart in so doing

& yes, you are correct, I did not google what you asked me to google because I had no desire to walk down that path with you...not exactly difficult to figure out what you were saying without investigating the exact particulars of the "evidence" you were using to support your particular political spin on police

just continue with your plan that involves the strategy of shoot, ready, aim

one day you will realize that you are being given as much compassion as you give

@lame

by "sweet" i was referring to the kind gesture made by the officers. it was sweet what they did. NOT what happened to the children. can't believe I would have to explain that. duh

I know what you meant bologna. And Sylvia I'm not suprised. There are many, you included that refuse to let facts penatrate the bubble of what they want to believe. If you won't reasearch something then you don't want to be wrong even to the point of stupidity. Nor have you actually pointed out how I was "being political. Your engaging in the internet equivilent of sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming LA LALALALALA. You just confirmed you talking out your ass.

#1 You never said how this served the community.

#2 You've never said how exactly what I said was political.

#3 If you want to serve the community how calling you legislator over the fact that a convicted murder police officer is able to collect $2500 a month state pension while serving life in prison on the basis that he was traumatized by being convicted and can't return to work because of it even though he won't be returning to work due to a friggin' life sentence without parole. Once again a title or position doesn't always an angel make.

Here's fun fact. There has never been a killing by a police officer that hasn't been called justified by police inquest in the city of Seatlle and it's suburbs. Even an unarmed burgaler who as shot in the back of the neck was considered justified. I also find it ironic that there is an article that just went up on MSN a few hours ago about a Arizona law man who just killed his 5th person in 10 years. Guess if you want to murder with consequence you just need a badge. And if law enforcement can kill without getting in trouble isn't it possible that some might try to take advantage of that? Mathias Bachmeier certainly thought so.

Same Lame post here-Get over yourself PLEASE!! These officers were acting in an OFF DUTY capacity as citizens trying to keep another wrong from happening. Why do you think you should hold these two personally responsible for this tragedy. You yourself sound crude and spiteful not concerned about anyone. Your personal loss has nothing to do with this situation. I feel badly that a tragedy happened to you but it doesn't give you justification to take it out on others trying to do the best thing they can think of. Yes, there are bad cops out there but the few don't define the many that are honest, hardworking, caring men and women who put their lives on the line on a daily basis to protect and serve their community. You don't explain how or why your loved one was killed. OR as you put it, murdered. Unless it was some type of domestic situation there was a reason why your loved one had contact with law enforcement. You also don't seem as if you put yourself in the shoes of law enforcement who generally never have to shoot people but give an oath to do so if necessary. I doubt they relish having to use deadly force. I personally think you'd be better served getting some grief counseling as opposed to weighing in on this story that obviously brings out negative memories and feelings for you.

Some Lame Name Here...

I went to make dinner if you must know...we do eat in our house & yes, I do cook...no time to do your research...and actually, it's old news...& something I can actually do little about...@!$%# happens everywhere & we have to pick that which we shall engage

the frequency of your posts indicate just how upset you are over this topic...& yes, you are behaving in a political fashion...trying to sell your platform just like a politician does...

& that's because you have a political agenda...not republican or democrat or any particular political party...but your own poitical agenda based upon a passion fuelled by what I can only deduce was a personal negative experience

that kind of pent up internal frustration will bury you...get over it or you will go to your coffin in great pain

over and out

Love how you tell me I'm wrong but you can't tell me HOW I'm wrong./ You ass cheeks are moving again.

@ skrewdworld

You don't explain how or why your loved one was killed. OR as you put it, murdered

Did you even fully read my posts? Look up Mathias Bachmeier although like Sylvia I know you won't. It's not what I think it facts of the record. Is it so hard for you type? From you long winded and ill informed post it shouldn't be. At least fully read what was posted before you open you blow hole.

And Sylvia I have no clue what you making dinner has to do with anything. I'm sorry you have so many mouths to feed that you can't take 15 seconds to looks something up but have enough time to respond to me 4 different times. Are you really that busy or just that lazy. I'm sure many a people went to the grave believing the world was flat because they refused to even look at any evidence to the contrary. And the whole time I've said I doubt these police officers did this to be nice. If they wanted to be nice they could have paid for the childrens funeral costs. Didn't see that part in the article. Here's even a link for you to make it easy but I know you won't use it because you still going LALALALALALALALA.

http://www.seattleweekly.com/2000-04-05/news/a-decade-of-mayhem/

Correction of a mistatement. The Arizon law man just kill his 6th person in 10 years not 5th. A grandfather holding his grandbaby.

Lame...Your experience is not everyone's experience. By your own logic, one bad cop doesn't make all cops bad. There are some (most) dedicated and caring people serving our communities with dignity and competence and they are cops. There are some that lack integrity and do crimes worse than those that they arrest. In this case, these cops did a good thing for the right reasons. Obviously, you do not share their beliefs and that is your choice and right.

Again I will say you don't belong posting on this story. Your agression towards those who don't agree with you is quite overdone and you need to seek counseling to determine why you are so angry and negative, condescending and down right vicious towards others. You are the one that is bringing your problems to this discussion. Why does anyone else have to "look up" whatever it is that happened to you?? You want it known so badly YOU spill it. You really think that you are putting me in my place with your lame put downs?? NOt hardly, your just making yourself look like an ass!!! Much like Sylvia I have a life and things to do around my home so my priority is not looking up information that some whacked stranger on the internet is demanding that I do so. Do you really think that people will jump because you make some stupid smart remarks???? And you call me long winded and ill informed!!! This story is NOT about YOU or what happened to YOUR loved one or about YOUR personal life, so why the hell does ANYBODY need to get informed about your personal issues with law enforcement???? Your not going to change the opinion of those who appreciate what the officers in this story did no matter how nasty you try to get!!!!

And I never said Police Officer automatically=bad person.

Pretty sure I wrote that in post #3.8. It's hard to take your replies seriously when you can't even be bothered to full read what was written before you sound off. Sloppy and lazy. And skewdworld you a hypocrite aslo as your doing exaclty what you accuse me of. Try again kettle. And your refusal to even look at something somebody cites as a reference is disturbing to say the least.

I can tell the type of persons I'm dealing with here and there is no point in further bothering with you. All I can say is that it's easy to see how so many were able to turn a blind eye to the horrors of Nazism happening right in front of them. You refuse to see or hear what you don't want to. I'm starting to think your church-goers since you so easily pick and choose what you want to see or read from what I wrote.

It is illegal to dispose of a human corpse in that manner! Did you favor yourself with even the most elementary education?

If they took him off suicide watch an he killed himself his family would sue... and win a settlement just adding to this tragedy.

Burial is to respect the dead which includes not letting their killer be buried near them. That is just disrespect to the dead boys!! You sound like a republican.

Oh come now Mouzie, way to nitpick. Write to crimestoppers or call and let them know how you feel about the word.

I think what makes it unusual here is that Crimestoppers is usually used for information leading to the conviction in a unsolved crime. This is the first time in my memory that it has been used for something like this.

Lame-I went ahead and looked up the link you so wanted and demanded that we see. I haven't changed my opinion about this story. Again, in my first post I said I was sorry for your tragedy. In reading the story I still express sympathy for your situation. However, the officers in this current story had nothing to do with it. Your incident was some time ago and there are much more appropriate places for you to unleash your anger and hate. Try counseling. No one involved here can change the out come for the psycho that killed your loved one.

True that. Of course, somebody makes thousands from the average funeral.

(tapping monitor screen) Attention...Attention...those of you who would like to save vital 'Earth-space' as it is cramping Lisa's style of living, please forward all deceased persons to Lisa's home as she has AMPLE space to accomodate said remains. =)

fantomdog - very funny

Lisa, Thank You for your deep insightful thought on this story!

God help us if that's all she got out of this article!!

Everyone- Meet Lisa. The lights are obviously on, but nobody is home.

This is the part that I can't wrap my mind around. Now that these poor kids are dead people want to keep their dad away from them. What about when they were alive? Their mom was missing and he was the # 1 suspect and they found child pornography in his home. Yeah here's a guy who should be allowed around children. Giving any kind of visitation supervised or otherwise to a PERVERTED MURDER suspect is WRONG and SICK. Plus if the damned worthless child services woman hadn't allowed them to get out of the car and walk up to the house ALONE then maybe things would have turned out differently. Makes me so mad I can't stand it. Plus why not call the police before your supervisor? And yeah Robert I'm completely enraged about it. Those children should have been protected but nooo that murdering bastard's rights were more important than those poor kids rights.

God said "We must forgive". I never thought that there were so many insensitive people out there. I guess you all are so perfect angels. Yeah right.

Again we find mere imperfect human beings who know only one thing for sure about this entire family's nightmare and, suddenly, they're entitled to wax poetic about what's right and what's wrong as it relates to the burial of these two baby boys and where, exactly, their murderous father should or should not be allowed to be buried. Bet you $100 the majority of these posters call themselves Conservative, Christians and Patriots. They fail to grasp the Christian concept of vengeance being the sole right of God. Not once does He or Jesus Christ ask for their assistance in exacting vengeance, nor are they invited to share the Judgement Throne. These are the people who would have picked up a stone at Christ's invitation and tossed it full bore into the noggin of the alleged prostitute. They know all things and fashion their "god" after their preferences and cherry picking of scripture. God's got this, people. Your suggestions, while very appreciated I'm sure, just aren't necessary. Unless you've got a straight line to God and He speaks only to you, defer to scripture wherein you will find how insignificant your opinions are relative to judgement and vengeance against Josh Powell. Now, it's time to let these 2 precious children rest in sweet, sweet peace. May God have mercy on the rest of your rotten souls and hardened hearts.

To Ask.... Your entire post is preaching to everyone here who has vented their disgust about a murderous father. I find it curious that you accuse all of us of being so unchristian and judgemental but you feel free in your last sentence to call us "rotten souls with hardened hearts".
Maybe you should not judge us at all lest you be judged a hypocrite. Somehow I think God will forgive us our anger and outrage. After all we are all sinners.
When I say I wish Josh Powel would be buried in a sewer it doesn't mean I would actually do it, it means I am so angry that he killed his children that I am struggling to come to terms with it. My God understands that. He forgives me that. I don't think that makes my soul rotten and hardened. On the other hand Josh Powels soul......... well, that does stink.

D, you proved my point about mankind fashioning God to suit their human notions of right and wrong. You, admittedly, knew your thoughts and comments were wrong, yet you proceeded to post them with impunity. I rest my case.

D Over:

"When I say I wish Josh Powell would be buried in a sewer it doesn't mean I would actually do it, it means I am so angry that he killed his children that I am struggling to come to terms with it. My God understands that. He forgives me that."

Amidst the avalanche of alarming and deeply disturbing outbursts being posted about this tragedy over the past several days, it's refreshing to find this quote from you. I don't agree with your original wish, but I suspect you don't either, and I can relate to your heartfelt explanation. That's part of being human. Anger can sometimes be absolutely so intense that its an exceptionally difficult struggle to overcome, and my heart goes out to you as you work through it. So does God's, as you so accurately noted.

What unsettles me the most about all of the rage and hate-infused comments people have expressed is the fact that not everyone who wrote them has the ability to take a rational step back or the insight to perceive what's really going on inside themselves like you seem to have. Several vicious and astonishing statements have been repeatedly posted with such conviction that I believe their authors are sincere in what they've written and would indeed turn their words into action if the opportunity was given to them.

In addition, all of these posts are now available for everyone in the world to read, including many mentally unstable people who may choose to act upon them whether the original authors would actually do so or not. We live in tremendously stressful and tumultuous times these days, and it's more important than ever to remember the impact our words and emotions may have on others. A few folks like myself have tried to point this out in various ways—some to a better degree—and we've all been verbally attacked for it. This only underscores our concern and the dangers of letting rage get out of hand.

I share your grief about the Powell tragedy, and I pray we can each (in our own way and time) find peace within ourselves again. I also hope we can learn to transform and redirect the energy behind our emotions outward in a positive manner so that we might help prevent a similar tragedy somewhere down the road. We never really know the impact we each make in other people's lives.

Both are in the same place, holding hands for sure. Burn baby burn. The children will receive a home with He who lives for ever and ever.

add scatter and piss on it!!!!! done deal

I agree with you 100%!! All this rage, anger, and effort directed towards empty vessels. His essence is gone, his evil dispatched in a manner that God, the universe, karma... whatever....deemed fit. Too bad all this industrious energy spent on what to do with dead flesh couldn't have been excercised on the living vessels and alleviated their suffering. You console yourselves!! This means nothing to them or to him. A huge endeavor in selfishness!!!

Thank you Sandy...I was thinking the same thing but you voiced it so much better than I could have. It sounded like his mother didn't know where the boys were being buried when she bought the plot. It's good that she has moved it to another cemetery.

It was reported yesterday they tried to get the plot NEXT to the boys, and they attended a graveside service, so I'm not sure how they didn't know where the boys were buried....

Rumor has it of brother /sister incest in the family. Something on Josh's computer about it

Josh had TWO sisters; the brother in law is married to the estranged sister who has maintained throughout she felt Josh was hiding something; the mother divorced the sick perv dad in the early '90's.

Josh Powell did not deserve those kids; just because he shared DNA with the boys didn't make him a dad. As for love, he didn't have a clue. If he knew what love was, he never, ever would have killed those boys. He was a selfish jerk.

He shouldnt even be buried on the same planet, push him off the side of the road like a peice of trash and let the animals and bugs have him.