2 dead, 3 wounded during fire, shooting at Los Angeles home

Patrick T. Fallon / AP

Firefighters battled a fire in the East Hollywood neighborhood of Los Angeles on Thursday afternoon at a house where two people were shot and killed and three were wounded.

A gunman and one of his victims were found dead inside the smoldering remains of a Los Angeles house on Thursday. Three other gunshot victims were rescued from the burning home earlier that afternoon by police and firefighters, authorities said.

The bodies of the gunman and victim were found after the fire was out and authorities were able to search the house, a 1917 single-story rambler in LA's East Hollywood neighborhood, the Associated Press reported.

The three other victims – two 38-year-old women and a 34-year-old man – had been shot by the time police and firefighters arrived. They were transported in serious condition to an undisclosed hospital and were expected to survive.

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The incident began shortly before 1 p.m. when emergency personnel responded to the home. Firefighters did not enter the home because they worried the gunman was still at large, fire Capt. Jaime Moore told the AP.

Authorities said the shooting was called "domestically motivated" and said the gunman had a relationship with one of the surviving victims, the AP reported.

Authorities cordoned off the block and nearby residents were evacuated, said Los Angeles Police Department Commander Andrew Smith. Some neighbors were concerned that gusty winds could spread the flames in the dense East Hollywood neighborhood.

It took about 150 firefighters and two and a half hours to fight the blaze, according to the Los Angeles Times. When the fire was out, cadaver dogs combed the scene for other possible bodies.

Neighbor Angelica De Paz, speaking in Spanish, told the AP that she was about to run errands when she saw a man kick in the front door of the house where the incident took place. The man was in his 20s or 30s, she said, and he wore a black shirt and blue jeans.

About five minutes later, De Paz said, she received a call from a neighbor who said the house was on fire.

"I thought it was a joke," De Paz said.

Another neighbor, Darwin Urbina, told the AP that he saw a man of the same description sitting on a curb outside the house shortly before he heard shots.

"He had this intent look," Urbina said. "He just stared at me for a while."

Urbina, who has lived in the neighborhood for a decade, described it as marked by gangs and drugs.

Mike Meadows / AP

Firefighters battle a blaze at a Los Angeles home on Thursday afternoon. A 34-year-old man and two 38-year-old women were shot; police removed them from the home and sent them to the hospital. They were in serious condition but were expected to survive, officials said.

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Firemen have a tough job ....

Working in full gear in 90 + degrees is really tough ....

Ammo inside a burning structure has to be a huge concern ....

Good job firemen ....

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:56 PM EST

Actually, ammo inside a burning building should be of almost no concern to firefighters. Outside of the firing chamber of a gun, bullets cannot generate enough force to injure a firefighter through his protective gear. This has been confirmed by experimentation (although not a scientific one).

A bullet only accelerates while it is being pushed by the expanding gas created by the burning gunpowder as it travel down the barrel of a gun. The bullet is accelerating the entire time it takes it to travel the length of the gun barrel. As soon as it leaves the barrel it starts to decelerate. Outside of a gun, the bullet only accelerates for the brief moment before it pops out of the casing, a distance of less than 1/4 of an inch, as opposed to up to 8 inches in a pistol barrel.

Bullet casing will sometimes burst into fragments when exposed to heat, the experiment i mentioned noted this, although none of the fragments from handgun or rifle ammunition was capable of penetrating a fireman's protective coat. Some fragments from magnum shotgun shells, were able to poke through the coat, but not fully penetrate, most likely, a firefighter would not even notice this due to the other layers of gear/clothing he is wearing. Even without any protective gear, only minor injuries would result from burning small arms ammo.

Ammo that is "cooking off" is only dangerous in movies, unless it is military large caliber machinegun ammo, or artillery ammunition.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:12 PM EST

Doubt drugs was involved..in Los Angeles no way.

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:35 PM EST

Except it's not 90 degrees in So Cal today......more like 65.

    #1.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:34 AM EST
    Reply

    Another family murdered with the gun purchased to protect the family..........

      Reply#2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:12 PM EST

      Ban handguns.

      • 2 votes
      #2.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:40 PM EST

      and you know that how Chuckler?

      Just spewing the left wing mantra..... I think wing the gunman kicked in the door those inside wished they had a gun. Just remember, when seconds count.. the police ae only minutes away.

      • 6 votes
      #2.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:44 PM EST

      banning hand guns is the reason the family didnt shoot first

      good luck getting a ccw in la county

      • 3 votes
      #2.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:55 PM EST

      Oh, so he bought the gun to KILL his family............silly me.............(but, why didn't he use a knife?......cheaper.......easier to carry.......his family would suspect nothing....)

        #2.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:30 PM EST

        no, let me guess........he bought the gun to kill himself and needed to practice on his family first to make sure it would work............

          #2.5 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:44 PM EST

          Chuckler

          How do you know he bought the gun? It could well be one of Holder's subsidized weapons. Where did he get the gun? You are the expert .. fill us in.

          This is why a shotgun is ideal for home defense. Just aim in the general area and fire. If there is still movement...... fire again.

            #2.6 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:54 PM EST

            Oh, he STOLE the gun to kill himself......and practiced on his family first to make sure it would work.......(How's that?)....

            • 1 vote
            #2.7 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:59 PM EST

            navyvet?

              #2.8 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:09 PM EST

              Chuckler,

              The fact is you don't have any more facts than anyone else. You just felt the need to muddy the waters and spin the story to fit you agenda. Do you wok for Meda Matters?

                #2.9 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:26 PM EST

                LOL!!! Gun, dead family, dead suspect from self inflicted wound.....(and they pried the gun from his cold dead hands)..........what more would you like?

                • 1 vote
                #2.10 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:36 PM EST

                dial up a little slow today navyvet?

                • 1 vote
                #2.11 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:52 PM EST

                Please show me proof it was a gun bought to protect the home/family............

                  #2.12 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:05 AM EST
                  Reply

                  Can't we all just get along?

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:50 PM EST

                  Personally, I'm a fan of the baseball bat with a great big giant spike nail stuck through the end...would that person be anymore alive if the suspect killed with this weapon? Guns, knives, bats, they're all bad if used for bad....

                    Reply#4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:24 PM EST

                    FBI Statistics show guns kill twice as often as knives, bats, poison, strangulation, bludgeoning, forced drowning, suffocation, and all types weapons................combined..............(hmmmmmm, that's odd......)

                    • 1 vote
                    #4.1 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:33 PM EST

                    Statistics also show that lower income, welfare families have more children then the affluent. So I guess now that we subsidize the internet for them now .... we can expect a lot more idiotic posts.

                    • 2 votes
                    #4.2 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:57 PM EST

                    You equate poverty with idiocy? Really? (Jesus must have been a real retard........)

                    • 2 votes
                    #4.3 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:00 PM EST

                    Oh, I see your game now Navyvet..........lose an argument and run away......bold strategy, how's that workin' for ya?

                    • 2 votes
                    #4.4 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:21 PM EST

                    http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus/333_murder_victims_circumstances_and_weapons_used.html

                    Sorry NRA member...........you're dead wrong..........again...

                    • 2 votes
                    #4.6 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:22 AM EST

                    Well......that ended that conversation...........

                    • 2 votes
                    #4.8 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:13 AM EST

                    Of course the common factor in 100% of murders is a PERSON using the weapon. But you already know that, don't you chucktard?

                      #4.9 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:06 AM EST

                      ME:

                      FBI Statistics show guns kill twice as often as knives, bats, poison, strangulation, bludgeoning, forced drowning, suffocation, and all types weapons................combined..............(hmmmmmm, that's odd......)

                      YOU:

                      Um...no, they don't

                      FACTS:

                      http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl07.xls

                      .....enjoy......

                        #4.11 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:13 AM EST

                        You are smart enough to know how to use a hyperlink, right NRA Member?

                          #4.12 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:20 AM EST

                          ......and the conversation dies again.........

                            #4.13 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:51 PM EST
                            Reply

                            STFU Chuckler. You are truly a moron. You don't want a gun, don't get one.

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#7 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:41 PM EST
                            Comment author avatarchuckler-3100463Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                            I think everyone has the right to buy as many guns as they need to blow their own brains out.........Happy hunting steve...........

                            • 2 votes
                            #7.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:27 AM EST

                            Wow.

                              #7.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:43 AM EST
                              Comment author avatarchuckler-3100463Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                              I'm not against guns. I'll say it again:

                              I think everyone has the right to buy as many guns as they need to blow their own brains out.........Happy hunting NRA Member...........

                                #7.4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:16 AM EST

                                I think Chuckies panties are twisted on just alittle too tight!!!

                                  #7.5 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:35 PM EST
                                  Reply

                                  Domestic violence?

                                  They are not just using guns, but also fire/explosion.

                                  Can we have some kind of employer's program or government program to help people how to solve conflict?

                                  And at the same time, people can have referral information when they really need help for unsolving problem.

                                    Reply#8 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:35 AM EST

                                    You can always count on those hot-blooded Hispanics for a good shooting or stabbing and a fire to cover it up.

                                      Reply#9 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:01 AM EST

                                      Hey Chuckler. I equate idiocy with you.

                                        Reply#10 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:40 AM EST

                                        Chuckles like to say outlandish stuff to get your blood up. Relax my brother, totally harmless.

                                          #10.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:06 AM EST
                                          Reply

                                          Heads up folks you see someone kick in a door call the cops immediately !

                                            Reply#11 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:52 AM EST

                                            The funny thing about statistics is they can be manipulated anywhichway you like them to be. If the FBI wants gun violence up, they MAKE it go up...no body said you have to honest when you report the numbers...

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