Bobl you are a really bright person. I can tell by how quickly you were able to determine the cause of the crash, even with so little to go on. You probably know who won the Super Bowl too. It's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.

Too bad, totaled a nice bird. Sorry about the deaths but Shi# Happens

Unbelievable!

I find it sad that we think God would want us flying in planes to go skiing. Flying in bad weather is tough, one little mistake and its over. The real mistake was trying to fly to that part of the world in winter without making sure weather was forecast to be clear, or changing your destination once you find it it wasn't.

Yeah Bob, boy you sure saved the FAA and NTSB a lot of time with that analysis. I especially like how you took an aviation truism (like, "Oh, that's the latest 'Doctor Killer' aircraft") and connected it to a crash with a doctor aboard the plane because doctors as passengers obviously mean unsafe operations, without missing a beat.

Say, we should create an Aircrash Idol TV show for really smart retired ATC/instructors like you, and we can give you props (get it, props) over your awesome conclusions. "Slick detective work there, dog. I feel you. You really nailed that hours as PIC in IFR conditions with a doctor aboard, I felt it."

There was a reason ('obviously', as you put it) you didn't work for the NTSB, I'm guessing it's because you're unable to get into someone's head, but you're good at visualizing objects in 3D. I'm glad you had the right job for your limitations and strengths.

Dave..For your information, I am a retired Air Traffic Controller with a commercial , instrument pilot liscense and Instructors ticket to boot. The doc's wife is dead so, how much concern should I show? YOU HAVE A NICE DAY ALSO. Thousands of people all over the world die every day and I don't see as it effectnceyou or me. If you think I am cold, try seperating 30 airplanes at once, on radar. Never think of people or you would go nuts.

Dave is obviously a Republican, more concern about the plane than people.....

John-282599

You need to re-read my post. My concern was about the victims. I could care less about the plane. Politics has NOTHING to do with it. Bobl: I was a flight forecaster in the Navy and I agree with most comments that the pilot should have diverted instead of trying that landing.

bobl "head" u r a fckn troll monkey

Also ... Bobl "trol" ... I would not advertise being a former air traffic controller. As an occupation ... that is just one step up from being a postal worker.

Bobl - for your information, this pilot WAS instrument rated and an instructor with many, many years of experience landing in all kinds of conditions. Accidents happen, even to the best. You are a jaded, heartless person. How would you feel if someone wrote such things about one of your friends or family? People should really think before they speak or type!

RJ,

Some accidents happen. In my experience (I'm a pilot) and from what I've read, the bulk of air traffic fatalities are a compilation of a series of bad decisions made by the pilot.

I don't have all the details on this accident, so for me to speculate would be just that - speculation. We know he landed short of the runway in zero-vis conditions. This could be due to bad weather management, get-there-itis, bad fuel management, icing, allowing your passengers to pressure you into an unsafe fight regimen, etc. All avoidable causes.

OR it could be that sh!t happens. We won't know until the NTSB investigates. Until then it's all conjecture.

For what it's worth, I read a recent update that reported the weather conditions changed abruptly and that just 16 minutes prior a PC12 took off and reported visibility of 10 miles. I know how experienced he is and while I am not denying mistakes can happen, I hate when people jump to conclusions and spew off the cuff, hurtful judgements. There are two families and countless people in our community grieving the losses and praying for the recovery of the survivors, I just wish people would be more respectful because I know they would want the same.

For what it's worth, I read a recent update that reported the weather conditions changed abruptly and that just 16 minutes prior a PC12 took off and reported visibility of 10 miles. I know how experienced he is and while I am not denying mistakes can happen, I hate when people jump to conclusions and spew off the cuff, hurtful judgements. There are two families and countless people in our community grieving the losses and praying for the recovery of the survivors, I just wish people would be more respectful because I know they would want the same.

Or create the snowstorm? Of wait, the skiers all prayed for more snow.