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Subscribe to RSSA woman has become the first victim of bullets flying across the border from Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, into El Paso, Texas, the Associated Press reported.
Authorities say an assault rifle-type round went through the calf of a 48-year-old woman while she was shopping on a busy downtown street, Tuesday morning. The El Paso Times reported that she was pushing a child in a stroller.
Authorities on the U.S. side later determined that the bullet was fired across the border during a gunfight between carjackers and Juarez police.
Two suspects were injured by police gunfire and taken to a Mexican hospital, the El Paso Times reported.
The victim was taken to University Medical Center of El Paso and treated for a non-life threatening injury. Authorities said the woman is from Mexico and has a residency card; she lives in El Paso.
The bullet has been sent to a Texas Department of Public Safety lab for testing.
Stray bullets have crossed the border twice before in El Paso, although none have hit people, the El Paso paper reported. In June 2010, a round made its way to the ninth floor of City Hall. Months later, a rogue bullet hit a building at the University of Texas at El Paso.
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Would it be safe to say that this bullet was provided by the "fast and furious" perpetrators/organizers?
You do realize that all F&F did was allow people to buy guns. I thought that's what the gun nuts have been clamoring for.
Those darn immigrant bullets ....
Where was the border patrol on this one ....
"All I'm doing is taking money from one place to another."
-Toasty McGrath on his arrest for money laundering
There are no "Rouge" bullets only a person pulls the trigger..
It is past time to put up a wall to prevent things like this from happening. Of course it will have the added benefit of helping to stop all the illegals and drug smugglers from crossing the border as well. If the government can not protect our citizens and legal residents from bullets flying across our border, what is our government good for.
I don't get the joke.
Toasty - Fast and Furious wasn't about 'buying guns' except on the most simplistic level. It was about creating a situation that the anti-gun supporters could point at and say Mexican violence was fueled by illegal firearms from the US. It backfired badly and a young law enforcement agent was killed by a gun allowed to 'walk' across the border by BATF. It is likely we will never know exactly who knew what and when they knew it because Eric Holder and our Justice Department refuse to release the information. This is old news and I'm sure you are aware of it. Please, if you want to comment on Fast and Furious treat the subject with respect. Our government killed one of our own to further the anti-gun agenda and refuses to look their involvement in the eye.
clebro;
That was funny thank you!! :)
Lmao at JS in SD. Obviously never been there. EP and Wazoo are both built at the feet of mountainous areas with the Rio Grande, (actually a 1 foot deep stream most of the year,) at the bottom dividing the two cities. The wall would need to be oh, about 1,000 feet high!
The Great Wall is 8,851km long... Mexican-American border is 3,169km...
Building a wall is obviously not impossible, but who are we going to get to build it?
You realize that nutty self appointed social dictators are the reason there is a war on drugs and the reason there is a war in Mexico.
What a joke, they have no idea how many bullets have crossed the border before.
Invade!
WAIT WAIT WAIT......
this didnt just happen did it?
b,b,b,but the president said the border was secure!!!
the president didnt just say something to make people happy did he????
ask that lady how safe the border is!
there have been more people killed in Juarez than in the WAR in the middle east.
and that is just Juarez, that doesnt count south texas like laredo and brownsville.
how about the murder of an american on falcon lake for his jet ski?
RREEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAALLLLL safe there Lamebama!!!
Chris Wanker -
If we just had each illegal lay one brick when the are being escorted back, that would go a long way!
Actually, I was thinking we could move all U.S. Citizens one mile back and lay a mine field.
With so many people like JS in SD working so hard to strengthen the hand of the drug cartels, it was only a matter of time.
You can spend a quintillion dollars trying to build a roof over America and it won't change the inevitable free-market outcome of poorly designed laws and dysfunctional policies.
Excellent comment, vetfamily.
We could eliminate the problem without spending a DIME by passing sensible immigration laws, ALLOWING people to come here, work, pay taxes, and assimilate; and by addressing the drug addiction problem in the United States, either by stamping out drug addiction, or decriminalizing possession of drugs to the extent that the drug cartels are put out of business.
Instead, we have one Viner who wants to build a 1,000-foot high chain link fence (and who has never heard of tunnels or bolt cutters) and another guy who wants everyone to move away from the only sources of fresh water in the area (the surface water of the Rio Grande and the groundwater of the Balcones aquifers along the banks of the Rio Grande) and kill anyone trying to get a drink by laying mines all over the place.
I know what F&F was, Mike, but I'm not sure that Clebro really understands what money laundering is.
F&F was what it wasn't and wasn't what it was. Therefore you must respect it.
Commonsense...,
Therefore, respect should be given where it isn't needed and needed where it isn't given?
"The bullet has been sent to a Texas Department of Public Safety lab for testing."
We have positively determined that it was a Mexican bullet.
Where's SNL when you need them for some Deep Thoughts.
Well we could try counting the ones in the walls of UTEP and UTB. Both University of Texas campuses. And Janet Napolitano came to Texas and didn't invite most of the law enforcement officials from border towns to the meeting she had on border security yesterday. She ignored entire counties with multiple border crossings can you say political trip on the taxpayers dime?
Chris Wanker--the Great Wall of China stretches for 1500 miles (there are some other, defensive, ramparts which extend it about 5K miles--but they are very low and in many places made of simple packed earth--the impressive part of the wall is about 1500 miles). The substantial part is, in places, about 5 meters high (that is, something that can be pole vaulted by the athletic) and in others about 9 meters high. Millions of people died making it--and it was not only quite ineffective (being crossed multiple times) but was meant more for keeping people in than keeping people out. That is, it was harder for people to cross the border with all their household goods and wealth than it was for soldiers, one by one, to cross it with their weapons.
Once the soldiers crossed it with their weapons and seized a gate--they just came right on through. It was an impediment, not a barrier. And, it was only an impediment when manned--it took a million soldiers to man it. Our present US Army has about 550K total personnel.
So, the Great Wall was not as long as you think (about half the length of our border), it was not impregnable, it was built at an unimaginable cost (particularly in terms of human life), and it took a huge number of people to man and maintain.
I am extremely curious about why people think that technology from 200BCE is appropriate in the 21st century. We do sort of have submarines and planes and mining equipment now--not to mention explosives--all of which are easily gotten by anyone with the cash. A "wall on the border" is kind of a silly idea, don't you think?
The bullet was not that of the criminals. It was fired from a mexican police rifle, according to the El Paso Times newspaper. Chief of Police in El Paso said that they are pretty sure that they are not going to get any cooperation from the mexican police. (surprise, surprise)
... an assault-rifle type bullet ...
... a rogue bullet ...
Every time there's a firearm incident, the attempt to create panic in the media takes over. At this point, no one knows what firearm fired the bullet and its caliber is not being specified. It's very likely it was fired from a rifle if it traveled that far, but how does anyone know it came from a fully automatic machine gun (that's what an assault rifle actually is)? It's far more likely it came from a single-fire semi-automatic rifle since only one bullet arrived. Oh, and the bullet. Yep, it's a rogue alright. It decided to come across the border. All bullets are like that. You can't trust any of them. How about the rogue that shot the firearm at an aimpoint and angle likely to go that far?It's far more likely to have come from the Mexican police than the criminals who had only a handgun. There's the completly irresponsible rogue -- probably a panicked Juarez police officer.
beanathome,
Thanks for the reality check and history lesson. However, I got the length from Wikipedia and used it as a comparison to only be snarky and impractical.
So they have extra free bullets...
Rogue bullet?
Gimme a break. MSNBC needs some reporters that don't think they're Hemingway.
I was trying to figure out how the bullet decided to shoot itself...
What I'd like to know is how the El Paso paper would know such a statistic? Between "Hemmingway" and this kind of reporting---this entire story wasn't worthy 1st, of a crumpled paper in the trash can of a bathroom!
I'm going to go out on a limb--and I'm no 'professional' reporter here; But I'm thinking there have been an exact total of 1397 stray bullets that have crossed into the U.S. in El Paso from Juarez since 12-17-2010. OOPS! 1398. One more was just 'detected.'
wtf is a letustreaon? The red line below your words is there for a reason! English language indeed.
Correct, English language needed, citizenship to the children, of illegals should be denied!! These people barely qualify as citizens, much less human beings. Let them go home and be activists there.
To the illegals I would say "Go home" few will miss you here, except,,,,you're fellow illegals, crooks.
Hey, look everybody. Finally a true American. with all of his ancestrry from the US. Way to go #top_hatter. Why don't you shut your cake-hole and figure it out. The problem is not guns or immigrants. The problem is Humans.
high-hatter wants to destroy the Constitution of the United States of America and rob American children of their birthright.
There's enough hatred, bigotry, and child abuse in the world already, high-hat.
Your ideas cost the lives of 50 million men, women, and children during World War II.
We don't need your brand of hatred.
It's bad for America, and bad for the world.
High-hat, are you blaming the children of immigrants for the shooting.
High-hat, are you saying there are DEGREES of citizenship, and one person can be more of a citizen than another?
High-hat, are you saying there are DEGREES of humanity, and that some people are full-fledged human beings and others are subhuman?
In no particular order, you need a lesson in science, a lesson in civics, a psychiatrist, and a visit to a church for a talk with a member of the clergy.
well yanks the border isn't the problem and the mex aren't the problem.
if there wasn't a whole bunch of nice americaan people buying truckloads of drugs a day from the mexican then the trade would die like a desert flower and you border folks wouldn't be in such a state
mad_hatter, must be nice in wonderland. I followed your reasoning up to where you stated that a human isn't a human, then it just started to sound like your were angry at your suppliers or something.
Mike for your information reporters here are reporting only what is public information. The cartels have threatened reporters on both sides of the border and their families if they do any investigative reporting.
High-hatter Do Texas a favor don't visit. You might find your ideas need changing when you find out that towns with 80%+ hispanic populations have less immigrants than your wonderland town. And that voter fraud is highly unlikely since the judges know all the voters and are related to most of them. Then you'll have a breakdown and take up space we need in our hospitals.
The people on the border should know by now this government isnt going to protect them...buy a gun and start protecting yourself or shut up and live with it.
That's why arrests and deportations are at record highs, I suppose...
No, no! I want the government to build a 20-foot tall bullet-proof wall on the border between the two cities. Only then will American citizens be safe from the rogue bullets.
Yeah, because we all know that 20 feet is as high as a bullet can fly? Really?
How exactly do you defend yourself from bullets fired from Ciudad with a gun?
Is this like the fabled "missile shooting down another missile" type situation??
This is what qualifies as rational thought for some people.
Never mind the fact that study after study has shown that a) American cities and towns along the border with Mexico are SAFER and have LOWER CRIME than the rest of America. Never mind the fact that immigration has absolutely NOTHING to do with stray bullets flying across the border, except that what Ronald Reagan condemned as "anti-immigrant hysteria" strengthens the drug cartels and destabilizes our nearest neighbor and ally.
Here we have someone who thinks that inciting people to shoot randomly across the border is the way to promote public safety. Somehow, MORE stray bullets will equal FEWER stray bullets.
No wonder we are losing jobs to China.
Toasty is right, chester.
But arresting people for working is a HUGE mistake. It is slowing down the economic recovery, besides being immoral and economically pig-headed, it is just plain wrong, and it hurts us as a nation.
We need SENSIBLE immigration rules, rules that benefit us as a nation. We need to throw out the old, dysfucntional rules that never have worked, never will work, and exist solely to discriminate against immigrants along ethnic lines.
Ok, I'm all confussed here, what is a rogue bullet. Last time I checked bullets didn't have brains, and to planet X, huh are you for real? how the hell is a gun going to protect you from a bullet comming out of nowhwere? I'm all for owning guns legally and being responsible, but your rational is why anti-gun nuts hate us.
This is Texas we do. But everytime we pull it some yankee liberal from NYC yells at us and calls us uncivilized, inbred murderers.
Rouge American guns kill 40,000 Mexicans.
american guns, with mexican trigger fingers. remove head from A$$
American rouge is on 40,000 female faces as we speak.
Thank you, Eugene. I get so tired of seeing Rogue misspelled. I grew up playing in the Rogue River, now live near the Vermillion River. Now, I reckon nobody but you is going to grasp what the significance of what I just said is. Clebro, red guns aren't killing anyone. American guns are not the most common guns in the Mexican drug wars, they only make the news because they are actually traceable. Most guns that are traced turn out to be from the US, but that is a small percentage of the number of guns seized. Most guns simply cannot be traced. I can just about guarantee you that not one single automatic weapon in the Mexican drug wars is from the US, simply because most of us cannot even purchase an automatic weapon. I own several military "style" weapons, but not one is an automatic, or an "assault" rifle, which by definition is automatic.
scdunk, heal thyself.
hahahahahha, now that was funny, oh and by the way clebro arn't you that psychic reader in cali of florida that got arrested for false fortune telling or some fraud?
the ol rouge gun...
apply your makeup in 30 seconds or less or your money back...
Ouuuuuuuu! Bullets going rogue! All the way from a chopper in Alaska? What horses#!t journalism.
exactly, going rogue is I guess mysterious and sexy, but I thought you had to have a conscious thought to go rogue.
beirut...in texas
lol
keck we live with it. And we don't think phony political trips by Napolitano are the least bit funny and we have some real smarts down here. She met only with the people she nneded to to encourage support for Obama.
i lol'd like many of you, rogue bullet... funny headline
With the fact that the victim was from Mexico herself, I can't help but think of the "Dum-Dum" bullets from the movie Jessica Rabbit that go around corners (or in this case, cross borders) to get to the intended target.
I wonder if they get to use the "express lanes"?
Poor woman - she left Mexico (obtained a permit to legally reside in the US) and still became a victim of wild gunfire from the other side of the border. Maybe when rounds start falling in the US Army base, some action will be taken. Perhaps a 3-mile wide demilitarized no-man's land along the border would help.
Nigel, I get it. Ha ha! A woman born in Mexico got shot in the leg!
That is sooooo FUNNY!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You are one sick puppy. It reminds me of those bullets first produced by the British in an arsenal near present-day Kolkata.
Two things would help.
One, sensible immigration rules (instead of the dysfunctional and counterproductive crap we have now) would help a BUNCH. At present, we disallow immigration by the people who MOST want to come here and whose skill sets are MOST desirable to American employers (as opposed to the ethnic criteria that appealed to the dead politicians who established our current dysfunctional and bigoted rules in 1986). With the onset of the war on immigrants that started during Bush the Younger's second term, we strengthen the hand of the criminal element that smuggles drugs, guns, and now people across the border.
Two, we can figure out how to reduce the drug addiction that is so rampant in American today, and/or decriminalize drug addiction and trafficking to further weaken the American/Mexican criminal element responsible for the flow of illegal drugs northward and illegal weapons southward.
As for the demilitarized zone, the American side of the US-Mexican border is SAFER than the rest of the United States. But the war against immigrants is starting to change that.
NRA I like the roger rabbit version better. Yeah I feel a lot safer in Brownsville than in NYC. Those bigotted racist cops 90% hispanic do a real good job.
Could have been worse.
It could have been a misdirected rogue meteorite that SHOULD have landed in Mexico.
And hell, this crap happens in New Orleans at New Years (and KILLS people).
The woman should count her blessings and run out and buy lottery tickets.
The odds are in her favor.
Nuke Juarez.
cloaca & mexico----synonyms
bigot & spike----synonyms
There are nice people in Juarez suffering through this too. The economy legal is down because the tourist aren't coming. Same for every border town and you know who it hurts most the poor street vendor selling bic pens with your name woven on. The native from the interior who sells woven blankets in those towns. For all you liberals who cry for the nanny state to care for our poor you don't really care about humanity. And that is why I don't believe your crap.
But president caulderon is stopping crime in mexico, I'm sure it is the United States's fault. I mean without our guns they couldn't have gotten guns from anywhere else (south america, china, vietnam, korea, russia) I mean those places would never sell anything to any other country. Juarez is a dump as well as all other border cities. Until they stop corruption in mexico it will never end. But you would have to clean up the whole system. So that will never happen. Thats what you get from a 3rd world country.
We'll never solve our problems by blaming others, skdunk.
I've been to Jaurez, and it is not a dump. It is a vibrant city with over 1 million people and a history that goes back over 400 years to the first European settlers and far earlier as the area was already populated. It has a strong industrial sector, and plenty of parks, schools, and interesting architectural features.
The biggest problem is crime spilling over from the United States mainly as the result of American durg addiction.
And as for the border patrol. Their hands are tied, until they get actual backing from the President and Napalitano. But according to them, the border is safer than ever. I mean, that bullet couldn't have come from mexico, its safe there. Ask the white house.
I say we invade and push the mexican border back a bit and establish a 3 mile buffer zone, no mans land. Their police and military can't even control the cartels, just wait till some stupid wetback's bullet cuts down a 5 year old and then we'll see.
I've never understood why we don't militarize our border with Mexico, I mean we have troops now in places they don't need to be while things like this are happening. How many jobs would it create to build and maintain a proper wall/fence between the US and Mexico and man it?
Jtenny, if you're going to use derogatory ethnic slurs, at least do it right.
According to the official neo-Nazi/Aryan Brotherhood/KKK consolidated handbook (with which I can only assume you are familiar) a "wetback" is someone who entered the United States of America (from the United States Mexican) by fording the Rio Grande or the Rio Bravo del Norte, hence the "wetness" of the back by virtue of having waded across a river.
Get it right.
Probably because:
Real smart instead of policing a very visible river for 1290 miles You want to draw a line through desert and cactus for the same distance and police that. What military school did you go to? Get your tuition back you failed tactics 101.
agreed, it will take killing someone to even get a blip on the radar! two fences and maybe 100 yards or so demilitarized zone, just like korea and vietnam.
skdunk,
40,000 Mexicans ahve already been killed in the last 5 years to satisfy the appetites of American drug addicts.
We were all better off before the racists and bigots declared war on immigrants after realizing there was little or nothing they could do about African Americans in the current political climate.
Would you like to come to Roma Texas and then tell us how much the government will pay to buy out peoples homes and business for your demilitarized zone? And just where are you going to get the troops to man that demilitarized zone? Any idea just how many troops it would take just for the 1290 miles of Texas brush country? this doesn't count NM,Az and Ca.
Damn....guess they're gonna have to make that wall higher!
Walls are not the answer. Our problem is our border is leaking illegals, drug mules and probably a lot more every day. Until we can stop the hemorrhage we will continue to see bullets popping across the border. As many as are fired over there I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. It will take a military involvement to even begin to get a handle on this but once the crossing points are closed and there's no more money to be made in the drug/illegal trade the shooting will go elsewhere. Mexico cannot clean up their side of the border, they are too corrupt. That leaves it to us. The Obama administration has no will to do this and will continue to tell you there's no problem, all the time with their fingers crossed behind their backs. We can only hope for a change in administration and that the change will find a leader with the will to deal with the border issue.
You can't blame an immigrant for this one.
You CAN blame the bigoted war against immigrants, though. Without THAT you wouldn't have all the guns flooding south of the border, and the wholesale export of murder and violence from the US to Mexico.
We can only hope for an end to the bigotry and prejudice in the United States that fuels such hate and creates the violence.
I would dare everybody who has all the answers to take a ride along the border with me. You don't know the conditions or the people but you have ALL the answers. Mike's post is bigotted but commonsense you don't understand the border any more than he does. The border runs right through families. Our border patrol agents aren't bigots in fact most of them are actually hispanic. They enforce American laws humanely and do a lot of rescue of people who don't know how bad the Texas brush country is or the NM and AZ deserts. They have rescue beacons placed in the middle of nowhere that when activated call them to rescue people lost out there with no water. The Catholic church has womens centers to serve those who come with nothing and the border patrol brings people there to get what they need and get a shower before taking them to the detention center or processing and deporting them. You all have big mouths but there are many graves in Texas that only have male/female and date of burial on them.That is my border reality.
Roque Bullet? Rogue MSM demonizing Mexico again!
Maybe it's the same bullet that hit JFK, took a right turn, went up, hit Gov. Connelly, and ended up on Mexican Terrorist Lee Harvey Oswalds lap. Wankers!
You want to stop people from illegally crossing the border? Land mines. Hell, you can even call them "Rogue" land mines if you'd like.
If you started dropping bombs on our side of the border, placing land mines or shooting artillery at areas i wager almost all of them would think much harder about walking through those woods.
I hate to sound that callous, but thats really what its going to take.. There is no wall high enough that a ladder cannot climb. There are not enough agents to effectivly patrol the hundreds of miles and not enough money in a budget to afford a fix. Let the military practice live fire ordinance drills in that area for a while.
PEOPLE crossing the border are not a problem. They promote commerce and create jobs.
Deliberately murdering innocent people by indiscriminately peppering the border with land mines, now THAT would be a problem.
People LIVE along the border, coop. Do you want landmines in YOUR neighborhood?
Calling for the murder of innocent people is hardly grounds for respect and debate of ideas. Your bloodlust and prejudice is rivaled only by that of people like Ayman al Zawahiri, your kindred spirit in hate.
You don't sound callous. You sound evil.
lolol I'm not evil.. Its not like the flood gates are closed anyway right? I mean why do we have a immigration system if people can break international laws and walk across the border? It is a debatable fact that those who cross the border create commerce and jobs.
If we were peppering our land and not Mexico what would it matter? There shouldn't be anyone there anyway, its ILLEGAL lol. Its an extreme example for and extreme problem. Might as well use landmines because there isn't fawk all else that will work. Personally my feelings tend to lean more with signage and landmines only because the act is ILLEGAL.
You want to let them in the country? Let them use the same system you or I would have to use if we wished to immigrate to another country. Let them use the proper channels. They are in place for a reason. Otherwise just stop paying for border agents, take down the checkpoints and stop wasting my money. we can call both country's Amexicoa.
It is interesting to look around me today and see a country that has 1000% the Hispanic population than it did even 30 years ago. America is no longer. Look around, wake up.
Don't throw me in with the likes of Ayman al Zawahiri either. I'm far from a terrorist. I'm tired of aliens fawking up my economy and soaking up the opportunities my grandparents fought to make available.
If she was standing on the border with her left side facing Mexico
and the bullet entered on left side
then probably
otherwise it is just a guess from a person with an agenda.
still would like to know how many innocent people were killed in Libya
by those idiot rag-heads always firing into the air.
the bullet comes down with the velocity to kill
Exactly.
Bullets hitting people who were not the intended target of the shooter happens all over the USA when the gangsters go shooting at each other or each others houses, cars, boats, and hang outs. It happens with hunters who shoot people they thought were game animals. It happens with people who fire guns into the air, without thinking about where the bullet might land. It is not about immigration policy.
So who makes up a large percentage of these "gangsters" of whom you speak? Does the crime commited by illegals also have nothing to do with immigration policy? I dare someone out there to explain why our government refuses to enforce our immigration laws. It's not a secret and it's not just to get votes. Someone please, on this site, tell the facts instead of just talking more crap. Explain why the will of American citizens and our laws are being ignored.
Those gangs are made up entirely of US citizens. There are virtually NO immigrants in any of them.
According to all of the scientific studies that have been made, US citizens commit serious crimes at over FIVE TIMES the rate of immigrants, and unauthorized immigrants are the most law-abiding group of all.
Overstaying a visa and crossing a border without inspection are both civil misdemeanors, and they are one time events.
You'll get the facts from me.
Try googling "paradox of assimilation"
Everyone who claims 100% of this or !00% of that is wrong. Some gang members weren't born in the US but most of them were. And as far as immigration as the issue only Hispanic gangs can be the discussion point the bloods and the crips all over the country were American troublemakers even if they didn't look like you. 100% of those hispanics you don't like aren't immigrants. The majority of them and their parents were born right here.
I sure am glad Obama said our borders are safe. (sarcasm)
Depends on what you mean by "safe".
Border cities in the US are demonstrably safer than the rest of America, as are neighborhoods with high immigrant populations.
It doesn't sound like that would be the case when you define any immigrant as an 'illegal' human being (in Nazi Germany, it was the Jews who were defined as "illegal" and "non-German"), but that's what propaganda is all about – convincing people that the truth is a lie and a lie is the truth.
A 6 foot tall cement wall along the border probably would have stopped this bullet.
considering the typical trajectory of a bullet, if you understand ballistics, either she was very close and in a direct line of sight of the gunfight, or this was a bullet that went fairly high, and she just happened to be where it fell to earth. If the latter was the case, a six foot fence probably would not have stopped the bullet. It does point out that our borders are not safe. My own brother is a border patrol supervisor, and I have been informed that many, if not most, agents are frustrated with being handcuffed by policy.
So where are you going to put that wall in the middle of a river? I invite you to the border. To the towns where peoples houses sit right on that border.Where US 83 south runs 1 block away from the border through Roma. Put a fence, place land mines you all have the answers. When the border patrol finds dead bodies in the river all the time and just calls the Mexican authorities to pick them up after they gently tow them to the other side hoping that way the families will know what happened to them. I don't think fences and land mines will help. When there are graves on both sides of the border marked only male or female and date of burial. I don't think fences and land mines will help. Lucky are the ones that turn the right way after they cross the border they find the road. Those that don't find dry brush country with triple digit temperatures and many are never found. Think a fence is going to stop them?
Look.... a stray bullet from Mexico hits a woman who is from Mexico.... living in El Paso!!! To my recollection, 80% of the population of El Paso is from Mexico!! The city is so infested with illegals, there is only two options; give the city to Mexico and run the fence around El Paso or, the US annex Juarez and wipe the cartels out.
Either way, the Mexicans won't stand for it, on either side of the fence....
The whole region blows.
It would be so much easier and so much better if all the bigots just decided to leave. Pick a country, any country, and go there and ruin that place and leave us freedom-loving Americans and Mexicans to live in peace.
And that's just murders. It does not count the number of people who were wounded by firearms in the United States.
Given those facts, it's pretty hard to justify your blantant anti-Mexican bigotry.