Jurors find Huguely guilty in Virginia lacrosse slaying

George Huguely, a former University of Virginia lacrosse player, was convicted of second-degree murder in the death of his former girlfriend and fellow student-athlete, Yeardley Love. NBC's Lilia Luciano reports.

Steve Helber / AP file

George Huguely V is escorted into the Charlottesville Circuit courthouse Wednesday.

Updated at 10:30 p.m. EST: CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. -- Jurors on Wednesday found former University of Virginia lacrosse player George Huguely V guilty of second-degree murder in the death of his ex-girlfriend, NBC News reported.

Huguely of Chevy Chase, Md., was charged in the death of 22-year-old Yeardley Love, whose body was found battered, bleeding and bruised in the bedroom of her Charlottesville apartment in the early hours of May 3, 2010.

The jury of seven men and five women also found Huguely guilty of grand larceny but not guilty on four other charges: felony murder in the commission or attempted commission of a robbery; robbery; burglary - breaking and entering with intent to commit larceny; and statutory burglary - breaking and entering with intent to commit assault and battery.


Huguely, 24, did not visibly react to the verdict, and there was no overt sign of emotion from families of the victim and the defendant.

Jurors recommended Huguely receive 25 years in prison for the second-degree murder conviction and one year on the grand-larceny conviction, NBC News reported. They could have recommended up to 60 years total. The judge must still decide whether to agree with the jury recommendation or reduce it but cannot issue a sentence longer than the recommendation.

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Yeardley Love is shown in this University of Virginia photo.

Circuit Judge Edward Hogshire scheduled an April hearing for formal sentencing.

The recommendation came just a few hours after jurors heard sentencing-phase testimony delivered right after they convicted Huguely. That testimony included a tearful responses from Love's mother, Sharon Love, and Yeardley's older sister, Lexie.

“Every day is different,” Sharon Love said. “We've done the best we can to do something positive in Yeardley's name, but some days are unbearable."

The defense called no witnesses, NBC News said, but appealed to jurors to remember Huguely's police station plea about Yeardley Love: "Please tell me she's not dead."

After receiving sentencing instructions, jurors adjourned to a private room to deliberate Huguely's fate.

After the sentencing recommendation, Prosecutor Dave Chapman told reporters gathered outside the courthouse that "there are no winners in this case -- nothing but loss everywhere." However, he said, he hoped the Love family could "feel solace today."

Sharon and Lexie Love, in a prepared statement obtained by NBC News, thanked Chapman and others for their efforts in Yeardley's case.

"We will continue to keep her spirit alive by performing works of kindness in her name," they said.

Yeardley Love, a lacrosse player on the women's team, was found face down on her pillow. Her right eye was swollen and bruised, she had marks on her chest that suggested she was grabbed and had injuries around her jaw and inside her mouth and neck. Jurors heard several potentially lethal consequences of such injuries. A coroner concluded the young woman from suburban Baltimore died of blunt force trauma.

In a police interrogation video viewed by jurors, Huguely said he went to Love's apartment to talk about their sputtering, two-year relationship and she "freaked out" when he broke into her room. Their encounter quickly turned physical, with Huguely admitting he may have shaken her but insisting he didn't grab her neck or punch her. He also claimed she repeatedly banged her head on the bedroom wall.

A medical expert for the defense testified that Love likely was smothered, her face buried in her own blood-dampened pillow. Huguely's defense team has also suggested Love's death was the result of drinking and a prescription drug she took for attention-deficit disorder. A coroner said both substances were in her body but not in potentially lethal doses.

The prosecution painted a much more sinister scenario.

Huguely went to her apartment less than one week after he sent her a threatening email about her relationship with a North Carolina lacrosse player.

In the email, Huguely wrote that when he found out about the relationship, "I should have killed you."

In court, Chapman portrayed Huguely as intent on controlling Love. He came to her apartment to physically impose his will, kicking a hole in her bedroom door and reaching in and unlocking the door, the prosecutor said.

"That's the beginning of terror, ladies and gentlemen," said Chapman, who seemed to sob as he began closing arguments Saturday. "It's just unimaginable what that woman went through and you know it."

Then 210 pounds and nearly a foot taller than Love, Huguely battered her face and likely held her down by her neck and covered her mouth, the prosecutor said.

Prosecution medical experts said her death, which came about two hours after Huguely left, could have been caused by a loss of blood flow from the carotid artery. They also testified about bruising on her brain - the result of her brain striking the interior of her skull - and blood pooling near her brain stem. The latter was likely caused by a wrenching or torqueing of the head, experts testified.
Chapman said Huguely left Love's apartment with her laptop computer, tossing it in a trash bin in an apparent attempt to hide incriminating emails.

The alleged computer theft was critical in the prosecution's case. Chapman sought a conviction on felony murder, saying Love was fatally injured during a robbery.

In his closing arguments, defense attorney Francis McQ. Lawrence described Huguely as hulking, hard-drinking jock but no killer. He acknowledged Huguely had an unintended, accidental role in Love's death, arguing for a finding of involuntary manslaughter and a 10-year prison term.

Huguely, a member of a well-to-do Washington family, was a "boy athlete" and he and Love lived in what Lawrence described as a "lacrosse ghetto" where drinking, sexually charged relationships and emotional outbursts were the norm among elite athletes.

Huguely now bears little resemblance to the stocky 6-foot, Division I athlete of nearly two years ago. He is about 30-40 pounds lighter and pasty from his time in jail awaiting trial. He did not testify during the trial.

Jurors have asked to view a police interrogation video recorded hours after Love's death in which he reacted incredulously when told Love was dead.

This article includes reporting by The Associated Press.

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Epic Failure for this guy, enjoy life in prison. If you want to become a evil, you have to learn from the best.

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#1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:02 PM EST

No doubt this jerk should have gotten his attitude "checked" by his peers long before he murdered his girlfriend. There's something about douchy rich frat boys that makes me want to punch douchy rich frat boys!

  • 85 votes
#1.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:25 PM EST

How many crimes do we hear about that is based around domestic abuse? We say our educational system is failing our youth--maybe we should have a class on "how to handle relationships" with middle school and high school students.

The sad fact is if he had realized this girl was not for him and just walked away, none of this would have happened. He destroyed his life, her life and the lives of their families in the process.

  • 98 votes
#1.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:29 PM EST

Yessssssssss, a rich douche actually got arrested. About time there was some justice in this country.

  • 54 votes
#1.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:29 PM EST
Comment author avatarplain bobExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Mr.Nerdly kills Yeardley...

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:48 PM EST

This guy is a mentally ill and should be executed for a violent murder. What a @!$%#ing bastard

  • 22 votes
#1.5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:52 PM EST

Sir Andrew Bruskin

How many crimes do we hear about that is based around domestic abuse? We say our educational system is failing our youth--maybe we should have a class on "how to handle relationships" with middle school and high school students.

The sad fact is if he had realized this girl was not for him and just walked away, none of this would have happened. He destroyed his life, her life and the lives of their families in the process.

Gee, Andy-I don't think this guy went to the same type school as "regular" kids did/do/will. He had a hedge fund father and lived a life of luxury. Maybe that ritzy prep school failed him.

It's time that the wealthy pay the same price as ordinary citizens do. And--the function of the wealthiest is to create jobs. They created jobs in other countries and hide their profits in The Caymans and in Switzerland.

  • 31 votes
#1.6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:54 PM EST

This guy deserves exactly what he's getting because he committed a crime and a woman lost her life.

It doesn't matter if he was drunk. It doesn't matter what she did. It just doesn't matter. He is completely responsible for her death and needs to pay a hefty price for taking her life in a drunken, ridiculous rage.

I'm just guessing, but if the tables were turned I'm sure his family would want the same.

  • 50 votes
#1.7 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:01 PM EST

His good looks, wealth, and a "V" after his name are going to make him REAL popular with the twisted sisters in prison. If he survives prison he can start a new occupation of smuggling bottles of fine wine into the country.

  • 35 votes
#1.8 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:16 PM EST

This guy deserves the death penalty but life in prison will be good enough for the time being. He looks like her has a little sugar in his blood and the hardened convicts are going to have a jolly good time with him. He will be a changed man in no time at all. They will violate every opening this guy has. WoooooooHooooooo.

  • 14 votes
#1.9 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:18 PM EST

No George Huguely VI.

  • 15 votes
#1.10 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:26 PM EST

Will it be good enough? Why is he so calm? I hope he isn't going to end up in some fake prison. Nothing worse than a rich sociopath.

  • 26 votes
#1.11 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:32 PM EST

"Her right eye was swollen and bruised, she had marks on her chest that suggested she was grabbed and had injuries around her jaw and inside her mouth and neck... A coroner concluded the young woman... died of blunt force trauma.

Huguely said ... she "freaked out" when he broke into her room... he may have shaken her but he didn't grab her neck or punch her... she repeatedly banged her head on the bedroom wall.

A medical expert for the defense testified that Love likely was smothered, her face buried in her own blood-dampened pillow. Huguely's defense team has also suggested Love's death was the result of drinking and a prescription drug she took for attention-deficit disorder...

Prosecution medical experts said her death, which came about two hours after Huguely left, could have been caused by a loss of blood flow from the carotid artery. They also testified about bruising on her brain - the result of her brain striking the interior of her skull - and blood pooling near her brain stem. The latter was likely caused by a wrenching or torqueing of the head."

"Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, what we have here is the case of one athlete victimizing another. The young lady obviously created a scene when my client entered her room through a hole in the door, slammed her own head against the wall and then flung herself face down into her own pillow where she died of her daily dose of Ritalin. Hasn't this boy suffered enough?"

  • 23 votes
#1.12 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:50 PM EST

no "atrocities", i doubt he's mentally ill, just always felt he was entitled and when someone had the nerve to reject him, assumed right to retaliate with the ultimate rejection.

sad case of a human being. put him away.

  • 26 votes
#1.13 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:53 PM EST

I really believe we would have less people like this in the world if we fed more people like this into wood chippers.

  • 16 votes
#1.14 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:56 PM EST

The minute he steps into that prison, Bubba and his friends will be all over him and spend the night taking his backdoor virginity away.

  • 10 votes
#1.15 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:10 PM EST

P-Heckler - You are right, that middle Initial "V" will certainly come in handy in prison, when he is asked to assume the "Georgie Boy" V Position, clasping ankles as he bends over, maybe as much as V [5] times each week. Don't think mom will need to send clean underwear to prison for him as he won't need it, but she might want to pack a few pairs of "undies" for him to help him in those intimate relationships he certainly will enjoy!

He could not possess Yeardley Love, but he will sure have a good grasp of Prison Love.

  • 11 votes
#1.16 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:16 PM EST

How did the jury miss on "statutory burglary"? Guess he just went there to "talk it out", then only killed her when she failed to "listen to reason". What a sorry shard of broken humanity!

  • 8 votes
#1.17 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:44 PM EST

I just hope he is sentenced to prison and doesn't get house arrest or probation. He needs to be in prison, so does his sleaze-bag attorney! Don't get me wrong EVERYONE deserves a fair trial, but what is fair about telling lies about a woman who is dead?

  • 9 votes
#1.18 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:58 PM EST

human garbage...

  • 6 votes
#1.19 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:02 PM EST

Sir Andrew Bruskin - well said! Perhaps educational systems need to start them young on moral themes & values coupled with social etiquette along with abc. A well emotionally adjusted society will create an economically sound society. Moreover, parents need to be accountable and perhaps the basics of parenting. This of course will never happen we have truly become a dog eat dog society.

  • 6 votes
#1.20 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:54 PM EST

blondeness032 You must really be blonde if you think he would get 60 years of house arrest or probation.

  • 3 votes
#1.21 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:56 PM EST

Pitful..she is dead and he walks in 13 years at 37 years old and parents have money galore to give to him. Sentence was 26 years total..minus 13 for good behavior/ first time criminal offense.. parole in 13 years.

Pardon me..can you pass the Grey Poupon.

  • 13 votes
#1.22 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:16 PM EST

Hope the Love family goes for a huge civil law suit.

  • 12 votes
#1.23 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:22 PM EST
Comment author avatarUnintentional MayhemExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Don’t worry! Those rough prison thugs are going to fvck him so hard in his pretty pink ass, he’ll swear he was born with a pvssy. They’re going to bend him over and ram their long, thick, rock hard penises deep into that tight, sweet, nasty bung-hole… relentlessly.

He’ll be a “cell wife” to some gang banger for certain and have the sh!t literally fvcked out of him every single night. They love White boy ASS in prison, it’s called “White Chocolate” in there. That big, round, pale, smooth ass of his will be eaten up like candy.

He’ll learn a hard, but necessary lesson from Karma. It will teach him not to murder other people’s children.

  • 9 votes
#1.24 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:29 PM EST

Some sick, sick folks on MSNBC tonight. Yes, this guy is trash and deserves to spend a good decade or so thinking hard about what he's done. But it seems as if every single time anybody gets sentenced to anything around here, the "anal rape" squad gets all sweaty palmed imagining the scene in microscopic detail.

You folks with these fantasies need to see a shrink. Seriously. Either that or a male prostitute who will be able to let you dress up as a prisoner and live out your fantasies, instead of wishing them on others. I also sincerely hope none of you ever have anything to do with the justice system, in any way, shape, or form.

  • 11 votes
#1.25 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:15 AM EST

Sore topic, but this entire conversation has been hillarious. I think everyone here has a valid comment. My comment is that we should live in an "eye for an eye" society. Sounds good, right? The only problem is some innocent people are convicted of crimes they didn't actually commit. Keep in mind, there is a small probability Huguely will "get what's coming to him" when he goes to prison (depending on politics and where he's placed)... a lot of guys on the inside are going to see him as the little bitch we do... and 13 years is a long time.

  • 5 votes
#1.26 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:24 AM EST

Unintentional Mayhem and BruceGee ... I gotta say... I don't know which post is funnier, but I'd give you both a walk-on job to the writing crew of any "Late Night" talk show host!

  • 4 votes
#1.27 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:48 AM EST

Sir Andrew Bruskin

How many crimes do we hear about that is based around domestic abuse? We say our educational system is failing our youth--maybe we should have a class on "how to handle relationships" with middle school and high school students.

The sad fact is if he had realized this girl was not for him and just walked away, none of this would have happened. He destroyed his life, her life and the lives of their families in the process.

Are you talking US schools. They can't even teach English or math anymore.

  • 6 votes
#1.28 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:46 AM EST

Bruce Gee.....I can't agree with you more ....this a topic is about two famylies ,going through such evil situation and here some folks are expresing their discasted fantasies ,in front of the whole world ........

My question to you folks is "would you discass this at the dinner table with your children ....?

If you do, we know what to expect from a new generatin.......Shame on you, have no regards for anyone ...Tomorow could be your turn ,you never know where the devil set into ....Rich or poor ......

America down on your knees, to pray for our children .....Young lady was no saint ......you do not play with anyones feelings..... heat of passion.(no defence for the defendent intended )part my spelling for those in spellingbee competition......I'm from a differite country.....english is my second lang.....

I guess only in America ........

and here some are expresing their dury fantasies in front of the whole world to read

  • 1 vote
#1.29 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:47 AM EST

Bruce Gee.....I can't agree with you more ....this a topic is about two famylies ,going through such evil situation and here some folks are expresing their discasted fantasies ,in front of the whole world ........

My question to you folks is "would you discass this at the dinner table with your children ....?

If you do, we know what to expect from a new generatin.......Shame on you, have no regards for anyone ...Tomorow could be your turn ,you never know where the devil set into ....Rich or poor ......

America down on your knees, to pray for our children .....Young lady was no saint ......you do not play with anyones feelings..... heat of passion.(no defence for the defendent intended )part my spelling for those in spellingbee competition......I'm from a differite country.....english is my second lang.....

I guess only in America ........

and here some are expresing their dury fantasies in front of the whole world to read

    #1.30 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:05 AM EST

    Made a mistake to post it twice............

    • 1 vote
    #1.31 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:11 AM EST

    sandtrich

    you took the words right out my mouth

      #1.32 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:55 AM EST

      Unintentional mayhem, did you get hard while writing your little comment? Cause I sure as hell got hard while reading it. WOW such a vivid imagination.

      • 1 vote
      #1.33 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:26 AM EST

      Twenty-five years is light for a brutal murder like this. He's lucky in my opinion. The girl's family will never get her back and this guy will get to have his back in a few years. The moral of the story:

      Thou shall not murder.

      Correction:

      Thou shall not murder unless you have money.

      • 5 votes
      #1.34 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:47 AM EST

      What disturbs me is he's only getting 25 years, and probably will get out sooner on parole. Why would the jury limit his sentence to only 25 years? Would he have gotten the full 60 years if he were black?

      • 6 votes
      #1.35 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:11 AM EST

      Rick-in-SD:

      I agree--that fact disturbs me greatly as well. And don't be shocked if he had gotten the full 60 if he had been black. But being a white, rich boy is a way to get off easy in our system of justice.

      Which is why I say there's no justice here at all.

      • 3 votes
      #1.36 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:19 AM EST

      Exactly what I was thinking, Lkessler: another privilege that comes with being a rich white boy.

      • 2 votes
      #1.37 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:28 AM EST

      chances are if this guy has the will to survive he'll gain the 30 pounds back and he'll be the raper. in prison you might get raped by bubba but bubbas white

      • 1 vote
      #1.38 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:39 AM EST

      Nothing good ever comes from to much alcohol, from a very bad hangover to murder and everything in between.

      My sincere condolences to the Love family. ..

      • 1 vote
      #1.39 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:40 AM EST

      Bambi -- You made a mistake to post that drivel once! Of course Yeardley wasn't a saint -- who is? But to blame the victim of a brutal, horrific murder? She wasn't his Perfect Fantasy Girl so that makes it OK for him to threaten her, break down her door and beat her death?

      You're calling other posters sick and DISGUSTING (discasting isn't a word) and defending this piece of subhuman refuse?

      Look in the mirror for 'disgusting.'

      • 2 votes
      #1.40 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:20 AM EST

      He will be a changed man in no time at all. They will violate every opening this guy has. WoooooooHooooooo.

      That morning 'movement' will sound like a bowling ball rolling out of a garbage can.

      • 1 vote
      #1.41 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:40 AM EST

      O man Lloyd, how I have to have a visual of that all day...LOL

      • 1 vote
      #1.42 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:23 PM EST

      His daddy's money could not save him on this one.

      • 2 votes
      #1.43 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:29 PM EST

      Don’t worry! Those rough prison thugs are going to fvck him so hard in his pretty pink ass

      Unintentional Mayhem banned, no value. Personal attacks. No good.

      • 1 vote
      #1.44 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:45 PM EST

      I feel bad for both, the young man's who's life is over and the surviving family of the girl that was murdered.

      From what I had seen and heard about this story, the young man left the room with her still alive, but died afterwards.

      This is tragic for all involved, and it's a real shame that one young girls life had to end, and a shame that a young man's life is now over as well.

      Hopefully some young people will see this story, read it, and learn to walk away from an argument or bad situation rather then taking matters in to their own hands.

      RIP young lady, and condolences to all the family members and friends.

      • 1 vote
      #1.45 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:30 PM EST

      Sir Andrew Bruskin wrote above on Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:29 PM EST. My answer to that thougth below his comment.

      How many crimes do we hear about that is based around domestic abuse? We say our educational system is failing our youth--maybe we should have a class on "how to handle relationships" with middle school and high school students.

      The sad fact is if he had realized this girl was not for him and just walked away, none of this would have happened. He destroyed his life, her life and the lives of their families in the process.

      The real issue is not that the school system is failing. Who is failing, is family. Parents are not doing their job at training their kids and teaching values. They expect that this training be done at school or bible school. It does not have to do with what economical class you are. So let's do the job and stop blaming everybody else or resenting economic status. We have to take responsability.

      In this country if you want it bad enought you will get it. There is free education to get you to high school and so many opportunities for scholarships, goverment help,etc.. So work for it, have ethics, have perseverance, train

      • 1 vote
      #1.46 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:50 PM EST
      Reply

      I think he should have got Murder one, but he should be getting a long sentence. Anything, ANYTHING less than 50 to life is an outrage of the highest order. His victim certainly is in no position to appeal.

      • 44 votes
      #2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:04 PM EST

      The most he can get on the charge is 40 years, he's not going away for life. He'll probably get 15 years and be out early for good behavior.

      • 6 votes
      #2.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:25 PM EST

      You need to actually READ the articles.

      Huguely could be sentenced to five to 40 years on the guilty verdict, which the jury returned after nine hours of deliberations.

      • 2 votes
      #2.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:30 PM EST

      He was also convicted of grand larceny, which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years - so he could conceivably receive up to 60 years. The minimum he faces is five years and one day. In Virginia, you must serve 85% of your sentence ("good behavior" can only be accrued to a maximum of 15% of the original sentence, and there is no parole).

      • 10 votes
      #2.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:38 PM EST

      With the grand larceny verdict, the sentence could be up to 60 years.

      • 5 votes
      #2.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:39 PM EST

      and show the whole statement

      He could be sentenced to five to 40 years on the guilty verdict, which the jury returned after nine hours of deliberations. With the grand larceny verdict, the sentence could be up to 60 years.

      • 7 votes
      #2.5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:42 PM EST

      He should be executed, No question about it

      • 9 votes
      #2.6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:55 PM EST

      I was thinking the same thing! The girl died a brutal and violent death. The article stated he could get 5-40 years. FIVE measly years? If that happens our justice system is truly a joke.

      • 10 votes
      #2.7 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:11 PM EST

      she was cheating on him or was in a new relationship right when it ended? not saying what he did was right but this is the real world. watch what u do...

      • 4 votes
      #2.8 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:17 PM EST

      So, Tim, she asked for it?? Let's all blame the victim, huh?

      • 15 votes
      #2.9 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:45 PM EST

      The girl shouldn't have had to watch anything. She broke up with him and found another guy. Its her life and she can spend it with whoever she wants. He was wrong for not letting her be. I have been jilted in my life and never killed the girl for it. Just went looking for another.

      • 18 votes
      #2.10 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:46 PM EST

      Seriously Tim? They weren't married. Just because he wanted monogamy doesn't mean she ever agreed to it. She decided she didn't want to be with him, and he responded by breaking in to her locked bedroom and brutally murdering her. And your response is to blame her for not wanting to commit to him? There's a good chance the only reason their relationship lasted as long as it did in the first place is because she was afraid of him. For all you know she had been trying to get away from him for a long time, and meeting the new guy was the thing that gave her the courage to try. The fact that you would blame her, in any way, disgusts me.

      • 17 votes
      #2.11 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:57 PM EST

      @ tim. someone cheats? you work it out or you walk. applies to everybody, male female single married whatever. your suggestion of "watch what you do" only supports this type of jerk's attitude and behavior.

      • 13 votes
      #2.12 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:01 PM EST

      Send his skinny a$$ to Death Row. This little piece of scum should be exterminated. There seems to be a lot of male egos around the world that retaliate in this same manner. Be a man... if she doesn't want you, then go away and leave her alone. Just because your little feelies are hurt does not give you the right to kill her. The same with these husbands that kill their wives... good grief, get a friggin divorce and go away. Live and let live.

      • 5 votes
      #2.13 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:16 PM EST

      Timseattle you truly scare me!!!

      • 4 votes
      #2.14 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:20 PM EST

      When you are young and fueled by testosterone, the "death penalty" for infidelity makes sense to many. Once you are old enough to think with organs other than the testicles, it does not, or at least it SHOULD not. Obviously this guy should get the max for both second degree murder and grand larceny, served CONSECUTIVELY, not concurrently. Glad to see that Virginia has genuine truth in sentencing and 85% is the minimum and no parole, like the federal system. Here, unless you specifically get "life without the possibility of parole", parole is possible, and in cases other than murder, people who nominally get twenty years can be out in three and a half.

      • 1 vote
      #2.15 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:52 PM EST

      Tim from Seattle0, Most people
      today don't live in the real world. Concepts such as shared culpability and defensive behavior are much too esoteric for the "0 or 1" mind of the average blogger. When you said he had no right to do what he did, that did not register on their ideologue minds.

      Rather than educating people how to avoid such situations their motto is "don't blame the victim". Every person has a responsibility to avoid being a victim, and behave in a way that decreases any possibility they might become a victim. But these people have a slogan they love "don't blame the victim" in any way, to any degree, even though this most certainly results in more victims.

      If someone walked through a high crime area at three in the morning with big diamond rings on their fingers and got beat up and robbed, they would scream at anybody who dared to suggest the victim should not have done that, "Don't blame the victim!". Practical considerations do not enter into the all or nothing world of the ideologue.

      • 4 votes
      #2.16 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:18 PM EST

      Tim Tim Tim....

      smh

      I would name call but that is unnecessary and immature. Besides, you've already covered that department for us.

      • 4 votes
      #2.17 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:21 PM EST

      A college romance isn't marriage. Kids cheat on each other, these things end. I happen to live surrounded by college students who sometimes scream at each other at 2 am when they break up, but nobody beats their ex to death.

      • 4 votes
      #2.18 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:18 AM EST

      His old man will get him off on the appeal

      . Money Talks...

      • 2 votes
      #2.19 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:55 AM EST

      I agree--nothing less than the rest of his life in prison is not justice. Yeardley Love's family is being deprived of the joy of their child for the rest of their lives.

      There's absolutely no justice if he doesn't get to rot in prison.

      • 3 votes
      #2.20 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:24 AM EST

      PS. It's unfortunate that the judge cannot impose a longer jail sentence. To me, 26 years (potentially, if he gets the extra year and the maximum) is just not enough. He'd still be old enough to get out, marry and even have kids.

      That's not justice. The prosecution cannot move for a judgment NOV either... because the jury could reasonably arrive at the decision they did--and the decision made isn't unreasonable.

      I guess the best we can all hope for is that he finds a mean boyfriend in prison who will beat him to within an inch of his life.

      • 2 votes
      #2.21 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:38 AM EST

      John Retionale, too bad you're not.

      Must be her fault that he killed her.

      Remember folks, it's called the criminal justice system because it provides justice for the criminal, not the victim. If this were my child this scum killed, I would be waiting on his pansy ass if he got out before I died, just to make sure he got what the crimina justice system will fail to do.

      • 1 vote
      #2.22 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:33 AM EST

      @Tim,

      What could she do when that pos breaks down the door and beats her to death?? "Watch What You Do"

      Like what, never be entitled to a new relationship?? I will say she had to know that he was and could be rather violent when drinking?? Probably not a very good pick for her.

      • 2 votes
      #2.23 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:27 PM EST

      Sanders,

      The jury recommeded 25 on the 1 count. The judge can impose 40.

      It came down to intent. The prosecution could not prove he went there with the intent to kill her. They could prove that he went there with the intent to do bodily harm and it resulted in death. That is why he received 2nd degree.

      • 3 votes
      #2.24 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:33 PM EST

      theexecutioner

      "John Retionale, too bad you're not.

      Must be her fault that he killed her."

      Your reading comprehension is next to zero if that really is what you thought I said.

      FYI, I think this man should be executed for murder, and I think you and others like you should have your arses kicked until your noses bleed for encouraging people to engage in high risk behavior simply because they have a right to.

      If this were my daughter she would have been a hard target who understood she had to drive defensively through life. She would have known that the fact that you have the right to do something does NOT necessarily mean it is a good idea to do it. She certainly would have known to call 911 the moment someone started pounding on her door. But you can't teach people in general how to avoid victimization in a world where the victim can do no wrong. Just scream your slogans and watch as the victims pile up.

      • 1 vote
      #2.25 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:41 PM EST

      John, I'm with you up to a point. Technically, I would have the "right" to walk through the black section of town at midnight wearing a KKK robe. But I've got far better sense than to do that, and would have very little sympathy for someone who did so and then whined about how "his rights" got violated when he was darn near beaten to death. If you actually have a daughter and taught her to "drive defensively through life", then good for you.

        #2.26 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:09 PM EST
        Reply

        He deserved it.

        • 12 votes
        Reply#3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:04 PM EST
        Reply

        THEY Should Hang this Brutal Drunk and send a Message to would be Copycats!

        PS -- Then Maybe the University can BAN Alcohol on Campus and make it Stick?

        • 16 votes
        Reply#4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:04 PM EST

        If the University were dry, it would not have changed what happened. This crime happened off-campus in a building not owned by the college. UVA, like other large state universities, has a considerably large population of students who live off campus. Alcohol banned on "grounds" wouldn't change a thing about the drinking habits of students.

        • 18 votes
        #4.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:20 PM EST

        Recall the song 1987 "It's The End of the World As We Know It" and Michael Stipe sings "No BEER cavalier" in reference to an alcohol ban on fraternities by then-prez Robert O'Neil. That said, rugby players would drink nonetheless and this tragic event occurred off-campus where all bets are off.

        • 2 votes
        #4.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:08 PM EST
        Reply

        Why is this news worthy. Is it because he went to University of Virginia?

        • 4 votes
        Reply#5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:05 PM EST
        Comment author avatarTheWhiteJudgeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Everything is news to some idiots.

          #5.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:16 PM EST

          Tragic, but I wonder if this would have garnered much attention if the perpetrator and victim weren't rich white people. Probably not. Strike that--certainly not.

          • 10 votes
          #5.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:23 PM EST

          Why would you limit what is news worthy? and who are you proposing should discern what the public should be given knowledge of?

          • 12 votes
          #5.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:35 PM EST

          Pedro- It's news worthy because someone was murdered. If murder isn't news worthy Then tell us what the hell is? Sheesh!

          • 13 votes
          #5.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:59 PM EST

          The fact that this is about [quote from above] "rich white people" is all the more reason for it to be news. To the detriment of all victims of domestic violence, all to many people seem to believe one or more of the following: DV is about older and/or married people, that it doesn't happen in more affluent neighborhoods or as often among certain ethnic groups. Not to mention the myth that a "wild" young man will eventually grow out of certain behaviors.

          Domestic violence isn't confined to ANY specific group. I sincerely hope that our young people especially are reading about this and taking it seriously. A young woman lost her life. Death is color-blind.

          • 10 votes
          #5.5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:09 PM EST

          If you don't think it is newsworthy then why did you take the time to read the article, log in and post comment???

          • 15 votes
          #5.6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:11 PM EST

          2nd degree? That's joke , it sounds like he's guilty of 1st degree intentional murder. Lets some poor bum with no money do the same crime, they'd fry him.

          • 7 votes
          #5.7 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:13 PM EST

          I'm impressed that a young man from a family this rich, long enough for him to be "V", got something resembling justice this closely. Shows some hope. That's news. Of course, it "helped" that his victim was a very attractive young white woman. If a pretty white girl goes missing, it's gigantic news. A brown, black, or homely poor white girl, not so much. It it WAY PAST TIME for this to change.

          • 4 votes
          #5.8 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:59 PM EST
          Reply

          He should have used Duct tape....then he would have gotten off..... He also forgot to claim he was abused as a kid...then the jury would consider him a victim and acquit....

          • 2 votes
          Reply#6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:06 PM EST

          That only works in California.

          • 6 votes
          #6.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:14 PM EST

          Uh, no.....that works in Florida, too.

          • 8 votes
          #6.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:27 PM EST

          Jan -

          lew is referring to the Casey Anthony case (duct tape and abuse as a child). That took place in Florida.

          • 6 votes
          #6.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:27 PM EST

          agreed. maybe if the jury was hand picked from florida also? yeah theres pretty much no standard to what his punishment will be. im not even going to try and guess. He may get what he deserves but the faulty trials before him will still make his case seem like an injustice in my eye. unequal and unfair punishment for everyone :/

          • 1 vote
          #6.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:28 PM EST

          If the glove don't fit you got to acquit

          • 4 votes
          #6.5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:13 PM EST

          With California justice system..if your rich..you get 1 hour and 23 minutes behind bars in a county jail..have to release them because of overcrowding. ;)

          In my book..whoever is in the lockup the longest should be release first to make room for the newbie.

          • 1 vote
          #6.6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:33 PM EST
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          Should have been first degree. If he couldn't have her, he wanted her dead. A misuse of alcohol as a defense. Hope sentence is many, many years in prison.

          • 14 votes
          Reply#7 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:07 PM EST

          he didn't do it>the butler did it.

          • 3 votes
          Reply#8 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:10 PM EST

          He should be sentenced to life in prison... I have lost a child and the parents will NEVER heal from this tragedy. The wounds he inflicted on this young lady were from someone who cannot handle rejection and rejection is a part of life. A normal person would not react the way he did. Hopefully he will get some anger management help in prison... where I hope he spends the rest of his life. He sure looks like a clean-cut kid, doesn't he? But the guy in the photo today is not the guy who killed this beautiful girl.

          • 16 votes
          Reply#9 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:11 PM EST

          So did Robert chambers the so-called Preppie murderer. Ditto Van Der Sloot, and Casey Anthony. You're absolutely right that people need to teach their kids to handle rejection, also to realize they can't control every aspect of what's going to occur in life. He took a life, he should be required to forfeit his own, whether behind bars or facing the executioner.

          That said, I'm cannot convey how sorry I am for your loss. Stay strong, your child will help you from where they are, and s/he wants you to be happy...at least, as much as you can, considering the void you now carry in your life. Things will never go back to what they were, but you will build a new normal and find some happiness there. It can't be the same, but it can be okay.

          • 7 votes
          #9.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:49 PM EST

          should NOT be able to breath the same air I breath???? hey dude 6ft under

          • 3 votes
          #9.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:25 PM EST

          What describes normal? You can be a normal person in one state and crazy in the other. No one can judge whether or not another human is normal or not, especially when they are depressed and under the influence of mind altering chemicals. This was a rich kid use to getting his way. He couldn't deal with not getting his way, and that led to his crime.

          For all you lawyers out there Huguely could not be charged with murder 1 as the homocide was not premeditated. In fact, I was surprised the charge was murder 2. I thought it might be voluntary manslaughter as the crime was committed in the heat of passion. In any case when Huguely went over to Love's apartment that day, his intention wasn't to kill her. I feel that the charge of murder 2 and the jury's recommendation of 25 years for the murder 2 conviction was appropiate. I don't think he got off easy because he was rich. Remember they could have convicted him of voluntary manslaughter with a maximum of 10 years. Hopefully, the judge accepts the jury's recommendation and doesn't lower the sentence. With Virginia's law Huguely would have to serve at least 21.25 years.

          Those who talk of Huguely being sexually brutalized in jail should realize that they are lowering themselves even lower than the one who committed the depictable crime. Look at yourself in a mirror. Are you sure you are not delving from normal to crazy, and one day you can be in the exact position Huguely is in? Evil enter Huguely's heart, and he lost control. He made a huge mistake and took a life, but he will be punished. Unlike a lot of other cases, justice will be served for Miss Love.

          • 1 vote
          #9.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:12 AM EST
          Reply

          He can teach his cellmate Bubba how to play Lacrosse.

          • 10 votes
          Reply#10 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:11 PM EST

          I wonder how long before Bubba scores a goal on him.....

          • 4 votes
          #10.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:16 PM EST

          He shoots .... HE SCORES!!!! (Or maybe, "He scores ... HE SHOOTS!!!!)

          • 1 vote
          #10.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:02 PM EST
          Reply

          How come when a soldier is killed it doesn't become breaking news but yet someone who murders someone its breaking news in a heart beat ugh.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#11 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:12 PM EST

          Too many soldiers die not enough news space..but i get your point

          • 6 votes
          #11.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:19 PM EST

          Great point

          • 2 votes
          #11.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:23 PM EST

          we'll they need more patriots to join so they can fight the rich mans war...don't want them to think much about die'n... they might not enlist...

          • 5 votes
          #11.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:52 PM EST

          As truly horrbile as it is, soliders dying in combat is sad but it isn't an aberration, which is what news mostly is -- the chronicle of aberrant events and behavior. A young woman dying when her life should just be starting thousand of miles from the front lines of any open warfare is news, and it is "bigger" when the killer is from a rich "good family" -- the sort of people who are generally never as much as charged, let alone convicted, of anything whatever.

            #11.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:06 PM EST

            And being a soldier means that being killed is part of the risk of the job. And I'm not minimizing how horrendous that is.

            Being a college student and breaking up with your boyfriend shouldn't mean death.

            • 3 votes
            #11.5 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:30 AM EST
            Reply

            I hope he gets the maximum and enjoys his time in prison.

            • 9 votes
            Reply#12 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:13 PM EST

            he'll be known as... the nerd that killed yeard...

            • 1 vote
            #12.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:10 PM EST

            plain boy, not only is your comment insensitive, it is wrong. Huguely was a jock not a nerd, and a sad event such as this shouldn't be made in jest.

            • 2 votes
            #12.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:23 AM EST
            Reply

            There you go -- George Huguely V will be a different kind of ball boy now in prison, at least for a few years.

            • 9 votes
            Reply#13 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:13 PM EST

            Water board his ass for the full term of his sentence and just maybe he might feel a little of what he dished out!

            • 6 votes
            Reply#14 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:13 PM EST

            Great. Lock him up, throw away the key. Jock or no jock, assault and battery is never acceptable.

            • 13 votes
            Reply#15 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:15 PM EST

            I'm not positive, but I don't think the victim's family can appeal the verdict.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#16 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:17 PM EST

            Nope, they don't have "status" to do so under the law. Neither can the Commonwealth if he gets less sentence than he should unless there are specific "sentencing guidelines" which are violated. HE can always appeal based on either "reversible errors" in the trial, which his attorneys would have to show so irreparably damaged the trial as to violate his right to due process of law, and could also appeal the sentence as being too harsh if he gets the max. Don't like his chances on appeal. Difference between him and the rest of us is that his family is rich enough to pay for hundreds of "billable hours" at several hundred dollars per hour to find some alleged grounds, regardless of how thin, upon which to base an appeal. This is why the "1%" have access to "the best justice money can buy". Most people run out of money well before they run out of appeals, and absent the death penalty, usually don't get unlimited "free" legal help past the trial court level.

            • 2 votes
            #16.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:13 PM EST
            Reply

            I am SO glad he was found guilty! its so obvious he did it!! Her poor family maybe can have some peace. Too bad his rich parents couldnt buy him out of this one.

            • 7 votes
            Reply#17 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:17 PM EST

            No, it's very GOOD that his parents couldn't buy him out of it!

            • 2 votes
            #17.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:45 AM EST
            Reply

            He's gonna be a first round draft pick, on bubba and leroy's prison lacrosse team now...

            • 4 votes
            Reply#18 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:18 PM EST

            Yeah...he'll play center...are there centers in Lacrosse?....oh well...they'll find a position for him to bend over!

            • 3 votes
            #18.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:26 PM EST

            You don't have to bend over to play center in lacrosse, but in lacrosse only one ball is in play at any given time.

            • 1 vote
            #18.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:15 PM EST
            Reply

            I hope they give this arrogant punk the maximum. Even 40 years in prison is not enough for him.

            • 10 votes
            Reply#19 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:19 PM EST

            how terrible for the parents of both sides

            • 6 votes
            Reply#20 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:19 PM EST

            its worst for her parents...they won't get to visit her on the weekends.

            • 9 votes
            #20.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:26 PM EST
            Reply

            He looks like he's gonna be someone's pretty boy b*tch in the slammer!

            • 5 votes
            Reply#21 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:21 PM EST

            He won't serve more than 10 years and probably less

            Both were heavy drinkers and with hot tempers. Being Athletes and in college makes them even more hormonal.

            This was all a bad combination. He deserves what he gets but she was no "angel" as is being said.

            • 5 votes
            Reply#22 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:21 PM EST

            R U For real? That's like saying yeah rape is wrong but she did wear a short skirt and winked at him at the bar...how dare you blame the victim..I don't care if she was a raging alcoholic HE went over there ticked off, jealous, in a rage and killed her. Dude go back to your cave

            • 19 votes
            #22.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:29 PM EST

            LOL. Sheila, if you knew UVA culture (any big state university culture in specialized groups like LX) you would understand. Go learn something.

            • 2 votes
            #22.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:30 PM EST

            Sheila get back on the meds girl- ur fangs are out.

            • 3 votes
            #22.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:33 PM EST

            This isn't about drunks (there are a lot of them) it isn't about lacrosse players ( I know lax), it isn't about rich spoiled kids, it isn't about over hormoned kids, fraternities, ivy league schools, etc.; its about a bad kid who went over the edge and killed a beautiful girl. If he did this, he is capable of doing it anytime. He deserves the harshest treatment.

            • 16 votes
            #22.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:47 PM EST

            Rob- from reading your posts sounds like you are familiar with making unwanted advances and/or violence against women. I hope you are not but You are trying to justify this all. I am a college grad from a major University in this country, granted many many yrs ago lol but I know college life and there is no way to justify murder.

            • 7 votes
            #22.5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:08 PM EST

            lol at unwanted advances - AM I A @!$%#ING MIND READER?

            • 2 votes
            #22.6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:21 PM EST

            Apparently you don't have enough of your own mind working to ever be able to read anyone else's. Don't worry, buddy, maybe your glands will slow up one day enough for the rest of you to be able to respond to coherent thoughts.

            • 2 votes
            #22.7 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:21 PM EST

            Sheila is right!

            • 2 votes
            #22.8 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:51 PM EST

            Of course she wasn't an 'angel,' no one is. But that doesn't give this sub-human refuse the right to threaten her, kick her door in and beat her to death.

            College athlete culture, drinking and over-active hormones notwithstanding -- he murdered a young woman in a horribly brutal way, then he claimed she 'freaked out' (no kidding!!) and beat her own head against the wall.

            I hope the judge sentences him to the max he can and that this waste-of-oxygen serves every day of it.

            • 3 votes
            #22.9 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:53 AM EST
            Reply

            "Should have been first degree murder"...

            Try reading a law book before embarrassing yourselves with such statements. Educate yourselves on what first-degree murder is and what it takes to successfully prosecute. When you're done, apologize to the prosecution for being morons, and thank them for getting this sh!tsack off the streets.

            • 9 votes
            Reply#23 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:21 PM EST

            I agree sometimes they have to make deals, settle for less etc to at least get a guilty verdict..doesn't mean we have to be happy about it and I think you need to read a book on manners before you go jumping down someone's throat who was just voicing her/his opinion. Stories like that of course upset people, it's sad we live among killers..sometimes us law abiding citizens get fed up and get vocal.

            • 5 votes
            #23.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:26 PM EST
            Comment author avatarhammer-4148490Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            eugene saxe, why oh why couldn't it have been you that he killed.

              #23.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:39 PM EST

              eugene saxe...is cool...hammer...i don't think is...

              • 2 votes
              #23.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:05 PM EST

              yea I can hear it now.....not enough beds in the prison??? no not 6 feet under???? dude

              • 1 vote
              #23.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:19 PM EST

              Sheila-3899458:

              People are more than welcome to express their opinions. And when they do so without making sure what they're saying is intelligent, they need to be ready to hear about it.

              Remember Casey Anthony? Remember people bitching out the jury for finding her not guilty? You know why that happened? Because prosecution tried a charge (first degree murder) they couldn't prove. But nooooo, all the ignorants had to blame the jury for doing their job 100% correctly. Here we have a case where first-degree couldn't be proven, prosecution went for the sure thing, and now the ignorants are crying about THAT.

              Is it so wrong to suggest the clueless joined the clued-in? Is it a crime against humanity to suggest people enlighten themselves, to become less dumb? Ignorance can be fixed easily, with education. You can't fix stupid.

              • 7 votes
              #23.5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:51 PM EST

              wow, I bet you are soooooo boring to live with..a freaking know it all...gosh, you are boring

                #23.6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:44 PM EST

                I'm not a know-it-all, far from it. I do have a brain, and am not afraid to use it, shame more people here don't feel the same way.

                And if you equate intelligence with "boring"...Well, you certainly must be the life of the party, a party I want no invite to.

                • 4 votes
                #23.7 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:54 PM EST

                Try reading a law book before embarrassing yourselves with such statements.

                Eugene Saxe, you are suspended for a week for violating rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.

                Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

                hammer-4148490 banned for death wishing another user.

                • 1 vote
                #23.8 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:56 PM EST
                Reply

                I'm sorry but this should have been FIRST degree..how can you say well yeah I hit her, I did this I did that but no man I didn't mean to kill her...whenever you harm someone you know there is a chance they might die..This is a BS verdict..not mad at the jury because they are given the options but still this is BS..

                • 6 votes
                Reply#24 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:21 PM EST

                Shelia, you are really naive about this whole thing. Simple as that.

                • 5 votes
                #24.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:35 PM EST

                Sheila's right...

                • 4 votes
                #24.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:00 PM EST

                How am I naive about murder Rob? Educate me please. Seriously, what am I and the majority of others angry about this case missing? You obviously have some insider knowledge the rest of us are lacking so please tell us, why is our anger misplaced?

                • 3 votes
                #24.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:11 PM EST

                Shelia,

                It's not about me as I'm just reflecting what the justice system is like. Did you really think he was going to get 1st degree given the circumstances of the case???

                Second. A sociological point. If she were fat and a minority you would have given a darn about this case. That is likely.

                • 3 votes
                #24.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:32 PM EST

                I'm not always thrilled(obviously) with the outcomes of our justice system but it's still the best in the world..at least we do allow some innocence until guilty..but I hear ya. As for if she were fat, black, uneducated, I get that too, it may not have even made the news....but here is a sociological point for you, why are men so evil? Why do they kill more women? Why do we read more murder/suicides from jilted men? Yes(before you start sending links on Andrea Yates etc) women can be freaking nuts too and kill. I actually find the bigger issue here is what is so wired in men that make them kill? I am surrounded, luckily, by the greatest men(in my opinion) in the world; but read the news...I saw at least 3 stories today about men killing ex wives etc...and those are just the ones that made the news...women, well, we can be a pain in the azz lol no doubt, but come on, this man was a wife beater killer in the making..what causes this..sociologically speaking of course..

                • 2 votes
                #24.5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:58 PM EST

                OKay. Fine. We're $h!ts. :)

                That's what it comes down to. :)

                • 2 votes
                #24.6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:04 PM EST

                I never said that(exactly) Rob..I just didn't understand your points in the beginning..honestly, I still do not. All men are not bad but geees come on...they kill all the freaking time...but as for this story, that dude needs to be locked up for life..but when you wrote I didn't understand University life I was like is he kidding me..so sports, pressure, drugs etc or whatever he's trying to say, makes it ok to kill...it ticked me off lol..I appreciate your banter however, I do..ty

                • 1 vote
                #24.7 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:30 PM EST

                I agree with you Rob.... most men are.... lets see, I'm 60 years old and can tell you that in my whole life, there has been only six men that have earned my respect. Pretty pathetic when my entire career has been working across the nation at power facilities. Only SIX out of thousands of men that I have met and/or worked with. So let me tell you how I really feel about this homicidal POS.... he deserves to fry. And I would be happy to pull the switch.

                • 1 vote
                #24.8 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:31 PM EST

                @ Sheila:

                First degree murder is premeditated. That means planned beforehand. The prosecution obviously did not feel that they could prove the perp planned to kill her.

                • 3 votes
                #24.9 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:56 PM EST

                Exactly. If he had ambushed her, brought weapons like a set of knives which indicated intent to make her suffer a prolonged death, or something that indicated he definitely went there for the purpose of killing her, then it would be first degree murder ("with malice aforethought"). Even then it would require something "aggravating" to make it a capital offense (but I think that the simultaneous grand larceny, another felony, could arguable make it qualify). Sometimes things like desecrating the body qualify (here the term is "heinous", as if all murder isn't that).

                  #24.10 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:27 PM EST

                  Sheila just ignore this idiot, this kind of little boy can't be reached. There is no excuse for killing someone period and that someone is trying to say it was her fault in any way is not reachable anymore.

                    #24.11 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:46 AM EST
                    Reply

                    Hope he likes taking many penises up his rectum!!!!!!!!!

                    • 4 votes
                    Reply#25 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:22 PM EST

                    Given your selected identity you should just go for it.

                    • 4 votes
                    #25.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:36 PM EST

                    John Well Hung Holmes was a convicted baby raper. Seems like a person in their right mind would idolize someone,well not a child molester. Maybe you should stop in at the local ward and have a test or two ran on yourself.

                    • 3 votes
                    #25.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:11 PM EST

                    packinp40: John Well Hung Holmes was a convicted baby raper.

                    Proof please? Or just running your mouth?

                      #25.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:37 AM EST
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