Not four more years! LOL Why do you think these guys are running for president now?

It wasn't worth it!I feel bad for this kid's family!

Yeah and what the hell was the threat anyway?Probably something stupid!

"Why do you think these guys are running for president now?"

To bump up their post-election book sales, duh. If you're taking any of those GOP hopefuls more seriously than that you damn well deserve the plutocracy/theocracy you're wishing for.

Silly liberal, Ron Paul is the only serious one.

Book deals and jobs at Fox News as Talking Heads? Maybe replacing Rush in Miami. He looked pretty bad in the last photo I saw of him.

Ron Paul would have been a serious contender... in 1896.. and that is not based on his age.. it's based on his plans and platform.

Translate and transfer your threats into voting for your favorite candidate. End of the story.

Line up the morons! Every time there's a President, someone who doesn't like him has to be totally stupid and make a threat as if they were actually not being a traitor.

JIMFORJZS

The charge is in the story. You don't understand English or what? Are you blind?

Its just PR someone has to be sacrificed!

He probably still had his JOE BIDEN FOR PRESIDENT '08 bumper sticker on his lowrider with the dingleballs in the back window and the fuzzy dice hangin' from the rearview mirror.....And the ONLY way Biden will ever be President is....well, you figure it out.....

i bet he didnt do anything, but thell hold him until after the election so he cant vote republican! lol!

Four more years? GOD FORBID!

The Threat against the President has to be taken seriously, what do you want to do wait until it is to late after the fact? If this was Geo W Bush, there wouldn't be any question? This is Florida again in the News, please someone check the water, EPA take a sample.

Again, another totally incomplete story!!! Absolutely no evidence presented in this story so I'll wait till I see some facts to make any kind of judgement. Be interesting where freedom of speech stops and a serious threat begins! BTW didn't the president ensure a law is in place that he can basically have anyone arrested for anything, any time, any place, any where, with or without evidence, cause etc... Need to see how this plays out in reality.

Why are you sorry for this young punk's troubles? Who gives a dm about this punk? He made a threat against the President of the United States. If you don't like it here then leave.

It is unclear what the exact threats that he allegedly made are.

Umm, why is this not clear?

@ skrewdworld its called the patriot act and there is nothing about it patriotic

As much as I want Obama to be defeated in November, I would abhor the fact that ANY president was threatened and especially killed by some egomaniac that wants to take matters into his hands. This country elected him him 2008 and like it or not, he is our president!

this crap will probably get more press than the shoe throwing incident with "W", what ever happened to that guy?

I wonder if he is one of those snobs with a college education or not.

Honestly, I'm just surprised it hasn't happened a lot sooner and more often. In fact, I'm shocked that people are just voicing threats and not taking pot shots at him. One of the main reasons I didn't vote for Obama (because I was one of the idiots that thought he actually could be a decent president) was that I didn't think he'd live out his 4 year term, and I certainly didn't want president Biden (not that president Palin would have been any improvement).

Frankly, I think this is just proof that Democracy is not what people crack it up to be. The fact is, it only works for very small societies. There is a reason dictatorships and communism has lasted for 2500 years, and democracy is failing terribly after only 200.

Can you say "1984?"

He most likely said out loud what most people are thinking or wishing for....

Mikela777,

If it was what "most" people were thinking, he wouldn't be president.

A 20-year-old South Florida man was arrested for threatening the president of the United States during President Barack Obama’s trip to Miami, authorities said.

It's only the first sentence of the article.

He threatened the President of the United States. Doesn't matter what he threatened him with. A threat of any kind against the President is a felony crime.

Yes, and I along with everybody else here would like to know what that threat was.

Hungry - Even the kids are sick of being lied to. I'm guessing the kid was frustrated - like the millions who will vote for the devil if it rids us of Obama.

Foot soldiers for insurance companies that deny sick people coverage, wanting to lock as many people possible in cages, wanting to take food from the poor, constantly pushing to bomb other countries, etc, etc. If there was a devil I doubt it would far off from this way of thinking.

Note the source...it came direct from NBC in Miami...they were covering local news, and that gets passed on to both the NBC and MSNBC websites. This is just like all other "breaking" stories where we don't get all of the facts immediately. It will be interesting to see if more details become available before his March 9th hearing.

Yes, and I along with everybody else here would like to know what that threat was.

Might I suggest you do what MSNBC, Fox, CNN, NYT and the rest do. Call the Secret Service. Their phone number is in the front of the phone book. I.m sure they'd love to hear from you. Stop back and tell us what the threat was would you please.

said his crap eating dog was hungry...LOL...

We are getting hosed!

Hungry - Even the kids are sick of being lied to. I'm guessing the kid was frustrated - like the millions who will vote for the devil if it rids us of Obama.

And judging from Santorum's "devil talk" of late, I'm sure the "Prince of Darkness" weighs heavily on the minds of the American Taliban.

we don't know what he said or did..., but it was probably an e-mail rant; what a fool.

Are you a moron or what? He was charged with threatening the President, which is a felony.

Fred, don't go off the deep end.

There was apparently a threat made to the President of the United States.

Don't you think we the people are entitled to know what that threat was?

Or it doesn't matter, somebody was just charged with this, and that's all?

We, the people, are not supposed to know that information? and should not even ask?

Relax.

I sent a message I threatened not to vote for him maybe they'll be coming for me next.

You really shouldn't threaten such things. Make a large population of people extremely happy and promise. Threat adverted....it is a win win.

Don't you think we the people are entitled to know what that threat was?

I'm sure they'll release that information as it becomes available. Judging from the length of the story it's probably unknown for now until they can get the indictment.

Patience Mongy, you seemed right darn quick to slap MSNBC around for witholding details that they may not even be privy to yet. The SS works on it's own schedule, not ours. He was charged, I'd say that was relevant news. If it was a bogus charge, we'll find out soon enough. I just checked Fox news, nothing there either so the conspiracy light is still only yellow.

Kenoor: That is unAmerican, we Americans vote for our leaders we don't kill them. Either believe in this country and the rule of law or go join your like thinking brothers in the Middle East.

@hungrymongoose

Don't you think we the people are entitled to know what that threat was?

Or it doesn't matter, somebody was just charged with this, and that's all?

We, the people, are not supposed to know that information? and should not even ask?

Seriously, dude, what is your problem? Here you say you are "ENTITLED" to know what the threat against President Obama was. In a thread earlier you said that you were "ENTITLED" to see pictures of Bin Laden's corpse to prove to YOUR satisfaction that he REALLY IS dead. You RWNJs really are selfish and self-absorbed. It's ALL ABOUT YOU and what you are "ENTITLED" to, isn't it?

Isn't it funny how republiCONS are all the time going on about democrats and entitlement programs and how they result in dependency? Hungrymongoose, it looks like you & your fellow republiCLOWNS are the party of "ENTITLEMENTS"! LMAO

Well Mike since NOBODY knows what the kid said for all we know he threatened not to vote for him. I did that too. I voted for him last time and I would like to extend my apologies to the rest of America for that lapse in judgement. I promise not to be that naive again.

for all who want to know what the threat was, why don't you call the Judge's chambers and see if you can brow beat it out of the judges clerk... (good luck with that)

Apparently he deemed that there was enough to make him post bail and may have sealed until his arrangement, but I understand that you as an American Citizen know everything about everything that the US goverment.... It must have almost killed you to keep Have Blue a secret.

The hate-mongering on this thread is disgusting. If a guy had been arrested for threatening Bush you all would have been up in arms, freaking out about putting the suspect to death in some hideous way. Whether you like the President or not, he is still the President. Grow up.

olebud,

Please refresh my memory and point out exactly where I accused MSNBC or anybody of withholding facts from a news article.

And to be honest with you, I don't think this is a Republican or Democrat issue.

All I was saying was, this article is just like a woman cooking a meal, who is just learning how to cook. After you've taken the first bites of it, you realize it tastes bad, and have to throw it away and eat hot dogs instead.

We got served hot dogs.

I want the filet mignon.

strange they collapsed your post for questioning the substance of the article. I dont see how your request was unreasonable. After all, the govt can really claim anything it wants, look at fast and furious and solyndra. What REALLY happened there? hmmmm?

"Secret file" arrest/condemnation?

Don't be surprised if this kid is never heard from again. Remember Obama demanded that the right of the executive branch to indefinitely detain U.S. citizens without due process be included in the NDAA. We heard about this kid. How many have we not heard about? Because of the detailed provisions in the NDAA the executive branch does not have to answer to anyone about who they have in custody. Not the congress. Not the judiciary. NO ONE!

Question--all you people want to go back to the policies of the Geo. W. Bush/Cheney and all of their failures. Wall Street, Big Banks, Tax Cuts, Lack of Jobs, Failed Drug Plan, Failed Mortgage Crisis, Bailout of Corps. President Obama inherited this mess from the Republicans, he did not cause this mess. Biggest of all failures; Two( Unpaid for) Wars. The Republicans don't have the balls to stand up for what is right for this Country!!!

My last post was for Hungrymongoose #2. Geo W Bush/Cheney were no Saints!!!

It is unclear what the exact threats that he allegedly made are.

Why is this not clear?

@Steve-3169902.... As I seem to recall the democrats held majorities in both the House and the Senate the last two years of Bush's term. They continued to vote to fund the two wars. During Obama's first two years the democrats maintained their majorities in both the House and Senate. Not a single bill was introduced to end the two wars during that time. The democrats still hold a majority in the Senate and control of the White House. But somehow it is all the republicans fault. Give me a break.

Long ago intelligence has said that this would happen. Forces of "unknown/unseen" origin would cause the collapse of a once great, proud and powerful nation. Like so many that have fallen before it. I'm not here to place blame on anyone or any group. I just want to help find credible, constructive answers in a world where certain fragmentations distract, dilute and divide. I can trust and want to be trusted. To me it hasn't mattered who has been in office I have always felt the same. No different. A peasant among pleasantries and a prisoner in my own mind. Id, ego, super-ego. Paying close attention to those laws that circumvent and give pause to critical process of progress. I respect my president but how are you suppose to turn ear when your voice has already been silenced? I don't want to see this country (or any for that matter) fall, fail and I don't want to see us turn into a bitter, self-serving society. This is not what I see my country as. I see it as strong and united for all and not a sole view of personal perpetual motion. Without finding that which unifies us we are destined to a strict and painful demise. We all have a purpose in a world of no purpose unless it be survival on a rotating rock. We all have worth in a world of worthlessness unless that worth is gaged by method of madness. What purpose is calling you? That's something you have to discover. I know that dealing in deceptions/manipulations has never guided any society to greatness. Only the minds of visionaries that "discover", not "create", the universes mysteries in their respective locales add to that greatness of the human race. It's not just about us or them anymore. It's about something better for each and every one of us. That is the thought. That is the "dream". Their are those that would sneer at the notion of a world where we are all treated as equals with the voice that is given purpose to its will. I have no hate in my heart. True, I do say and do things that I later regret, as you. That is our curse. But it doesn't have to define us and for some we allow it to. With each passing day tell yourself that today I'm going to be better than I was the day before. Strive for perfection but know that you will never be perfect. Be the solution and not the desolution. I guard what I hold as only dreams and I would gladly die for what we all hold as evident. Something that finds purpose shifting and shaping. Something this world can no longer live without. Shining a light in Darkness...........

dmac225

Nice absolute lie in your post there buddy. You said Obama demanded the provision to detain citizens indefinitely be included in NDAA. In reality he said he didn't want it in there. John McCain is the one who insisted it be included. Go look it up on politifact.com and quit lying just because you don't like Obama.

You don't have to make stuff up. Go find something real you don't like about him.

Kenoor in Farsi means cellmate:-O

the right has a responsibility to speak out on the kind of irrational abuse that gets spewed in the direction of barak obama. he is routinely called the "antichrist" in some circles. and worse. sure this is probably protected speech, but it has an effect on less stable citizens and at some level, encourages them to take action. after all, how grateful will the world be when you succede in taking out such a heinous historical figure?

Its kinda funny, two guys get arrested for plotting to kill Putin and the Libs, screech how its all a setup and those poor guys were set up by the Russian Mafia. Yet one guy gets arrested during the kick-off of their fearless leaders speech and its the rights fault..

I find it interesting that they didnt post what he said and even more interested about the timing of it all..

It's not "all the right's fault", at least not to the more rational among us. People do stupid things, regardless of party affiliation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CzteDucRHo

see..., it is O.k. to disagree with the President.

"antichrist"?? Everyone knows Santorum is the antichrist. Well, an idiot, anyway.

So him and Obama went to the same intelligence classes you say. Was that the one they taught on our 57 states?

There are 50 states.

If they had arrested the people making threats on Bush Jr...

Over half of the Democrats and a few Republicans would still be in jail...

Not according to Obama he said it I didn't. Of course no american is ever going to let him forget it. BTW has anybody found out where those other seven states are I must have an old map.

Clotho, have you been asleep for the past 4 years?

Now, now. At least they didn't declare him a terrorist and detain him indefinitely without counsel, without bail and without charges. NDAA allows for all that. Obama signed it into law recently. Interesting how quiet his supporters are about losing the last vestiges of their civil rights. Can't blame that one on Bush although many will sure do their best to deflect blame from Obama.

oh pulease,,, he is the safest man in america. who would want him immortalized like that idiot jfk. hes not getting off so easy, let him live his life in shame like jimmy carter. lol

Google the news...."Serrapio (age 20) pleaded not guilty before a federal magistrate, who set his cash bond at $20,000, in addition to a $50,000 personal surety bond that his parents signed".... Jr. doesn't have the right to make threats against some person - that is not "free speech". And he really screwed up by threatening the President of the United States. Mommy and Daddy are no doubt freakin' out big time, they have a naughty boy - and Uncle Sam is gonna spank him.

thats in this article. doesnt say what he threatened him with. prob nothing. we shall see.

Chill out trout, deathwishing isn't the way to get your point across.

I didn't know Vladamir Putin was a Republican? He is a thug, though. He could probably teach Vito Corleone a thing or two about thuggery.

the sad part is we have no one to speak for us, no one on the right and no one on the left, the new ballot is going to have a section for none of the above. Obama if elected for a final term will destroy this country, and the Republicans don't have a runner, maybe we should take a second look at Neut at least he has a direction to focus on even if its out in space. its better then sitting here and defecating all over ourselves. hell I'd even vote for Oriley if he'd run, then there is always Rosanne??? We are fooked.

Jon Jones--Yes, there are 50 states--there are also quite a few territories and there is Washington DC.

Beyond the 50 states and DC, the populated American territories (not just pieces of land that the US has jurisdiction over, but places where there are actual people who count as nationals, though not always as citizens) we find:

American Samoa
Swain's Island
US Minor Outlying Islands
Guam
Puerto Rico
Virgin Islands

Gee, golly, gosh, but that makes 57, now doesn't it? It wasn't the number of "states" that the president got wrong, it was the word "states" itself. These possessions are also under United States control, and the last three contain peoples who are citizens as well as nationals. The president was thinking more broadly--and, yes, he misused a term. However, there are in fact 57 different subsections of the US--and in that number he was correct even if he used the wrong word in place of "subsections."

Geez, people--you want to let that one drop already?

OBAMA 2012! Strong on protecting America! and oh yes, conservatives are stupid and liberals are better!

This is why I'm voting for Obama, I bet that will teach punks everywhere to not threaten and to respect the president of the USA. Again, OBAMA 2012! His new slogan: "Stopping rightwing nutjubs since Jared Loughner!". Obama, I friggin love you man. <3

Their use to be more! people only know what they learn in school. and that is only what they decide is important to teach, and who are they!

beanathome,now you know why Santorum,or Santrium is against higher education,catering to his followers,good luck trying to explain georgraphy to some.

Sure, let's ignore the fact that he said "states." let's ignore the fact that he said "transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency", then he closed the doors on all of us and the republicans. let's ignore the fact that he said "i will have c-span televise the health care hearings so that the public will know that my administration will be transparent" and then didn't allow them in. this is just a few of many things that this president said WHEN running for office. take away his teleprompter and we get to see the true person.

And no they don't want to drop it. Which is typical of the conservative mindset. Obama doesn't know how many states we have. Obama is a Muslim. Obama is Socialist. Obama is Communist. Obama hates America. Obama is destroying America. Obama supports terrorists. Obama is weak and does not believe in America. And the list goes on and on. All BS, but that is what conservatives thrive on.

Progressivefor America

All Conservatives do is rant and rage on about all their paranoid delusions. They don't believe in higher eduction or any eduction at all for that matter. They don't believe in science or reason but wallow in superstition and ignorance. And yes all they do is spit out hate and rage because they have no plan, their ideas are bankrupt, the world is passing them by and leaving them in the dust and they Know it

Actually I find both sides to be nutbags, but I find the liberals to be worse than the conservatives. The liberals will call black, white, up, down, and make up anything they want while at the same time making excuses for their own party even when its obvious they are pathetic. I will have to vote non democratic the rest of my life because I believe in truth and obviously I cant be a democrat then. Dont want to be a repub either, guess I'll be a independant, at least I can be honest then. Better honest and lose than immoral, and a democrat (and yes lying to me is immoral).

I guess in the end what drove me from the liberal side of life are things like this. If you vote for something against them, you are religious and trying to cram your beliefs down their throat. If they vote for something against you though its totally ok and you shouldnt vote your beliefs only they can. If you dont like what they say you are a conservative and shouldnt have any rights, but if you agree with them then and only then should you have rights, or be listened to. To me the liberals are the most hypocritical group I have ever encountered. I'd rather have the terrorists, at least I would know what I'm dealing with. Not so with liberals, they change worse than the wind. I used to be a liberal until I realized they didnt believe anyone else had rights, only themselves, and that their rights should supercede everyone else's rights.

Then watching the news I became disgusted with both fox and cnn as I first learned that both are biased and not truly news at all. But then I saw how liberals would say fox is so biased, but act like cnn wasnt, but the repubs I knew at least admitted that both were. In the end I became disillusioned with the democratic party because it is the party of falsehood and I would rather have the republicans rob my wallet than the democrats rob my soul.

progressive, you said it all. wait!!! there's more. it is going to take up more than 5 pages. make sure you mention them all, okey?

Left-wing has been talking for over eight years about killing Bush. Nobody arrested for their posts or speech. Now we have the speech police the food police, thought police, and a government that sues states, rewrites the constitution, deletes the bill of rights, done by left and right. Listens to your phone calls, now flying spy drones over America, 80% will vote against something and government will go against the people and do what they want. from an article in 2008;

Geisel is being prosecuted exclusively for the threat against candidate Barack Obama, and not for the threat against President Bush. Ed Donovan, a Secret Service spokesman refused to comment on the number of threats to political candidate and government officials, but did go as far as to say that this "might be the first arrest" in regards to this political election.

Every threat to Obama is now vigorously pursued, trumpeted and dissected by the media and the blogs, and roundly condemned. And I condemn such threats as well.

But in the past, whenever someone threatened Bush at a protest, there was a deafening silence on the part of the media and the left-leaning blogs, and consequently very little (if any) follow-through on the part of the Secret Service.

A protester with a sign saying “Kill Bush” and advocating that the White House be bombed, at the March 18, 2007 anti-war rally in San Francisco.

“Save Mother Earth, Kill Bush” says this sign from a November 20, 2003 protest.

A recommendation that Bush should hang, from an October 27, 2007 protest in Los Angeles.
“Bush is the disease, Death is the cure,” says this protester at an anti-war rally in San Francisco.
Two different pictures of the same sign saying “Bush — the only dope worth shooting,” at the March 15, 2008 anti-war rally in Los Angeles.
“Death to…Bush” at the October 27, 2007 anti-war rally in San Francisco.
Bush being beheaded by a guillotine, at an Obama campaign rally, Denver, October 26, 2008.
Protesters call for Bush to be beheaded with a guillotine, at a protest against Bush’s second inauguration, January 20, 2005, in New York.
Bush being burned in effigy, at a November 3, 2004 post-election anti-Bush rally in San Francisco.
Bush being lynched by an American flag at a rally in New York on September 19, 2006.
Woman holding a puppet of Bush being hung by the neck, from a March 17, 2007 protest in Hollywood, California.

A child holding Bush’s tombstone, at the February 16, 2003 anti-war rally in San Francisco.

Maher: You could have went to New Hampshire and killed two birds with one stone.

Kerry: Or, I could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone.

Full transcript of the interview here.

Was John Kerry ever questioned or investigated for making a threat against Bush? No.

On July 11, 2007, Nobel Peace Prize laureate Betty Williams gave the keynote speech to the International Women’s Peace Conference in Dallas, Texas, and said (to laughter and applause from the audience):

“I mean right now, I could kill George Bush, no problem. No, I don’t mean that. I mean — how could you nonviolently kill somebody? I would love to be able to do that.”

On August 4, 2000, when Bush won the Republican nomination (but before he was president), Craig Kilborn on CBS’s The Late Late Show with Craig Kilborn ran a graphic of the words “SNIPERS WANTED” under George Bush as he gave his acceptance speech. Although CBS belatedly apologized five days later, Kilborn was never investigated, questioned or punished, and continued to host the show for four more years.

None of these protesters were arrested.

That's because everyone hates Bush, and most people love Obama...with the exception of the conservative morons who listen to Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh and Fox.

maridanne

the right has a responsibility to speak out on the kind of irrational abuse that gets spewed in the direction of barak obama. he is routinely called the "antichrist" in some circles...blah blah...

LOL...like you would treat anything that the 'right' would do with any type of respect - no matter what. I've read your OTHER comments and you are only trying to shoulder this type of behavior politically -

ps...ever been on "First Read"?? ...if you wanna see verbal abuse, check out those left wing trolls.

PATHETIC FAIL MARIDANNE

NOTE: That John McCain, the profane chap who lost to Obama....HE was not born in the USA, meaning McCain...was not even born in a US Territory..he was born in a central American nation called Panama..never heard any birthers bitchin bout that...or that Barry Goldwater ran for President, though HE was not born in one of the US States...., and the Birthers here,hid in their shells, when XYZ Repubs made noise about changing the US Constitution so that the right wind son of an Austrian Nazi could run for President of the USA, even though he,Arnold Swartezneger was born in Europe ( Austria).

Mygirl (I'll never get used to addressing a guy, as mygirl); If your mind automatically went to thinking about what/how the left/liberal mind would process your comments - then you really are wasting your time, telling them not to "go there"...they were "so 3 seconds ago" on you.

Every person should be acknowledging that several factors are the result of our current conundrum - 2 of those major factors are both responsible for the lions share when it comes to where does the buck stop. If your mind isn't already on investigation mode when the topic is politics - then you are missing the entire point of the game (from a sideline perspective) - tracking the lies and corrupt dealings is what sets the intelligent from the sheep...if your score cards has all pluses for one side and all minuses for the other side - turn in your game card - you have been disqualified...to the sheep barn, no soup for you.

marridanne---the right has a responsibility to speak out on the kind of irrational abuse that gets spewed in the direction of barak obama???

what are you babbling? you are way out in left field.

that was almost as ignorant as obama saying he read that repubs are licking their chops at the higher gas prices. like everyone knows only a lib would reportedly say that.

"Ed" Schultz (born January 27, 1954) Is an American television
and radio host and a liberal political commentator

don't ya'll see what mindless zombies he thinks everyone is? he's dying to look like an idiot or he wouldn't act like one. i knew the second that babble came out of his mouth where it had to come from. wake up why have that anti-social maniac ruining our country?

liam----you are right that McCain was born in Panama but he was born on a US Naval Base which makes it part of US soil, thats why nothing was said about it, that goes with every base we have on a different country, if we have a base its US soil, if France had a base here then that will be French soil so on and so on

It doesn't surprise me that right wingers would get behind threatening the life of the POTUS. Man, they are really gonna freak out when the GOP gets its ass kicked in the elections this year. LMFAO!

MSNBC should write a blank article with just a comments section. That way all the President Obama haters will have more room to throw tantrums.

Because no matter what the articles are about, the discussion always seems to get reduced to this.

- four more years

LMFAO, yep, GOP is freaking out. Having Santorum and Romney as your top contenders will do that to most people. It's sad to see how desperate the GOP has become. They shot themselves in the foot by pandering to their extremist base. Their only hope is to threaten the POTUS' life or try to make excuses for those who do. Sad, indeed.

fact is if obama is re elected he will still be the same person we are talking truth about on here. , not going to be better, his healthccare fraud economy will further fail due to imposed mandated.

the only change will be ya'll pissed off when you can't afford to eat if you're not on welfare.

Actually, the stock market has continued to go up under Obama (unlike the last republican presidency), and we have continued to gain jobs (unlike the last republican presidency).

I just want to know one thing, how do they arrest this guy for somthing like this? When a certain American actor while in Germany, said he would give a 'million dollars' to anyone to make sure 'Bush did not get re-elected'... To me, he had just put out a open end bounty/contract for a president... Nothing happened to him...

It has to be a direct threat of violence.

beanathome, nice try, the only problem is Obama was campaigning and those 6 places you listed dont vote for the POTUS, unless theres been major changes lately that I missed, possible, but I think I would have heard of that.

There's not one candidate, left or right, that is going to waste time campaigning somwhere that the residents dont get to vote.

Drainbramage: Not sure where you got all that you claimed I stated from my post. Perhaps you are confusing me with someone else. Now, why do you have such a difficult time believing that I might be of the female gender? My Girl is a Smokey Robinson song, 'sunshine on a cloudy day with my girl, dum de dum, etc.' or it could be MY Girl won (1)... no matter, I am a person, a human person who comments on newsvine and what my comments state generally don't relate to a gender, but rather, to the article itself.

Of course this could lead to some 'is she a guy, is he a girl' tune in tomorrow to find out what Mygirl1 really is...kind of television teaser. Let us take a vote, I propose that posters decide and the winners get to have a steak dinner, courtesy of who ever will pay for it:)

Addendum: My avatar is a pic of a longhorn STEER. So, once a bull, but now... a eunuch. Hmmm? Is this a clue? Androgeny? What can it mean? In the overall scheme of things? Is it important?.....nah.

mygirl1; It's a flowthing I think... agree it's not a gender thing... it's just that a reply that addresses you sounds like it addresses/credits the posters girlfriend/wife. Us ADD (self diagnosed) posters have enough problems posting, without brain teasers...haha.

Why haven't you ceceeded from the union yet?

Yep - Paranoia does set in. Heck the DOJ has been his personal Brown Shirts.

Remember the Alamo and give Mexas BACK to Mexico. We stole it fair and square so it`s only right.

Learn to spell, you lot. Thank President Bush for the Patriot Act. Not enough info to judge here anyway, any direction.

Would you prefer "North Mexico"?

There you go, worrying about his skin again. It's neither pink or thick enough for you.

Like I said I threatened not to vote for him I expect a knock any day since I sent it to usagov.org

lonereb...they will come and beat the republican out of you...

It's "Tejas". Didn't they secede yet? Maybe when Ron Paul does not win, Tejas will just be an island unto itself.

Reb, it's ok if everyone doesn't vote for the current prez - he only needs 51%, which should be no problema.

NC open heart

Learn to spell, you lot. Thank President Bush for the Patriot Act. Not enough info to judge here anyway, any direction.

Obama also signed the extension to the Patriot Act and also said he wouldn't sign the NDAA bill, BUT DID!

Yea, we have at least that many stupid people in this country now a days Cassandra.

No at this point I would prefer the Republic of Texas though. OOPs did it again now I'm probably listed as not just a terrorist (said I wouldn't vote for him) in Washington but a revolutionary too.

Hey he may be the President, but he is still the devil. We are a country led into verge of bankruptcy by his decisions and now our creditability is ruined by him. The young 20 year old was just a ploy to give him some publicity. Obama has taken enough on his "vacations" and sideline fund raisers that he should pay the country bad for their bad jusgement. Guwess you can't fix stupid!

With the way the Hispanics breed and sneak in, most of Mexico's former territory has been reclaimed, anyway.

keep it up lonereb you're gonna be spending Independence Day in jail, and that "ain't" cool because you can't see the fireworks from there, and I hear the hot dogs are boiled, not grilled!!!!

If you want to play the blame game then Bush should be held for war crimes and stealing SS money to fund his private vendetta. It doesn't matter who was pres after that poor excuse this country was in the toilet so far it will take decades to get it out.

Thanks reb, after Perry's debacle, most probably would agree with you - let the Republic ride again.

Since this has turned to a political discussion, by the end of 2012 follow Obama to the pump and buy some five dollar a gallon gas. Re-elect Obama and follow him to the pump in 2016 and buy some nine dollar a gallon gas. Anyone dumb enough to vote for Obama this Fall deserves to pay nine dollars a gallon for gas!

I would like to know what he said! from the post I read it must have been really bad or stupid, well threats are made all over the world, if thy need to lock someone up, then I guess they need to lock someone up. its good publicity.

Guess somebody didn't like my first post. Just didn't appear, no spam detection, nothing!! So again another incomplete story. No facts, no evidence. Round em' up and haul em' in. Like to know where free speech stops and threatening speech starts?? BTW, the PREZ ensured that he has the right to arrest anyone, any time, any where, any place for any reason, without a warrant, evidence, etc... Wonder how it will all play out and how many more will be incarcerated before election day?????????????????????????

not old enough to drink but they can arrest him for unknown reasons because he said our president sucks.. I guess this is a communist country now... VOTE NO FOR OBAMA !!!!!

I am really surprised the POTUS did not issue an apology to the supposed "assassin" for being so disliked by him. So policy now dictates to make war on the American people, and apologize to the terrorists for inconveniencing them. Another 4 years?? How can the world take America seriously, when so many Americans do not take their own obligations to vote seriously?

H. H. Holmes, M.D.

With the way the Hispanics breed and sneak in, most of Mexico's former territory has been reclaimed, anyway.

Says the Whiteman to the Redman...hahaha. I wonder what the Natives think...oh and by the way being that mpst Mexicans are Native American blooded...your argument is foolish. Fn Moron

old man , i guess that makes you dumb then because you will also be paying $ 9.00 a gallon , ha ha ha ha ! next time think before you speak because you end up looking like a dumb ass that goes for the rest of the losers criticizing obama.

skrewed world, it is illegal to threaten anyone's life, especially a president or any government agent, i can't believe how many stupid people are commenting without thinking first !

greg, stop talking out your ass , how do you know what was and wasn't said !? you don't get arrested for saying nothing or for saying that the prez sucks, but only in your own little pea brain world it would happen that way !

privatemilitarycontractor, it can't be worse than bush and his family doing business with the bin ladens and then sending them on their way home on private plane, i believe it was before or after 9/11

cassandra---

to sucede would be my dream. irony then would be you illegally crossing the border to tx to make a better life for yourself and work illegally. and the mexicans being your boss while you cry doing the grunt work. love it.

gram--

there was no war crime

Sandra: Your posts show some people have advanced beyond the apeman mentality. There are those whose level has reached lowlife (looked up and saw the curb), and for them that's snob elite. They're called republican/tea party and are striving to take others way down to their level of shoot 'em ups, me macho man dumbo. Bush sent the Saudi Arab family home immediately, 9/12, when all but U.S. military planes were grounded. 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi A.; the king of S.A. a very, very close friend of the bushies, which made the WTCs attack suspect.

sandra--

you can't handle the truth being dumber than dumb

sandra-- being dumb. the bin ladens were not the enemy. if your child turns out to be murderer does that automatically make you one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CzteDucRHo

what!? ... even Hillary says that it is O.k. to disagree with the President.

It's perfectly ok to disagree with the President. Just don't go making threats to do physical harm like a damn fool.

It would be great to secede from a country that elects a Muslim from Kenya to be their leader. Unfortunately, if we tried to exercise our legal right to secede we would soon be branded traitors and they would repopulate Texas with Californians and New Yorkers to make sure they got our electoral votes.

who said he did that?

I didn't know Jan Brewer had any grandchildren in Florida ? I think this guy found a way to pull away from the Republican pact. We have a new front runner !

OK everyone.... JOAQUIN AMADOR SERRAPIO JR. LIVES AT 236 SW 136th PLACE. IN MIAMI-DADDEE, FLORIDA.

Thought it was stupid to include the street address of this kid's house in the article. Prolly his parents own it.

And... "Joaquin Amador Serrapio"? Sounds Illegal to me. Feds now gotta learn where to deport the thing.

The kid prolly wanted to Antique The President, with a pre-sifted bag of white flour, for not living up to his campaign promises. Or, at least that's what I would threaten to do. But, that's not really a threaten; it's a prank. I bet the Secret Service can get mighty aggressive on a potential antiquer. But I missed my chance when The Prez came to Phoenix. I like to sleep in late.

DancingSpiderman

You do know that Miami is highly populated by Cubans right. and although they should be considered Illegal immigrants they are automaticly given Political Asylum. And Cubans are mostly Republican which benefit us, you do know that too right. Oh wait you don't, that's why you came with such an idiotic comment. Man my party has becomed so ignorant that I just don't recognize it anymore. The republican party has becomed a lousy half-baked establishment who welcomed back the ignorant whack jobs we kicked out in 68'. Fox News has simply systematicly corrupted the party and completely alienated the rational republicans. I will not vote this election cycle or any other until the party starts acting like grown-ups. I rather sit home than lower myself to vote for any of those clowns or vote democrat.

Just as they did with ALL of our past presidents.....at least in the last 60 years (especially after the assassination of both JFK and his brother.)

Fool - Oh thank you! I have a Word Doc of copy - pastes of all the responses I receive from you liberals who go to the bottom of the barrel with name calling. Started it 34 days ago.

You are number 203.

Of course all presidents receive protection. Would that not be common sense? I simply typed that in Obama's case the cost must be higher. I mean, He is just soooo loved. That was tongue in cheek. In fact there have been Secret Service cuts that have left the President more vulnerable.

But I would not expect you to know that. It's so much eaiser to just call a person a name. I'm willing to bet you don't name call in real life. Easy with a key board - to be a bully.

Do you really think the illuminati are that stupid? Now Bush he was a mason could have been illuminatus.

Oh thank you! I have a Word Doc of copy - pastes of all the responses I receive from you liberals who go to the bottom of the barrel with name calling.

Not like you never bait for it though, correct?

I am sure I could have done the same with all the conservatives that name call. To just point at the Liberals makes your little .doc biased and only validates things slanted to favor Conservatives. I am sure the same amount of names have been called by the Conservatives. Where's your .doc on that? There are just as many Conservatives at the bottom of that barrel too.

Stop working to divide and spend more time pointing out that both sides do it equally. People complain about the politicians working on dividing this nation when it's the people doing it instead.

Hey hosed, add this one - I saved it just for such an event....

"The conservative’s paradox… You can be refused birth control, but you can't be a single parent. Guns make you safer, unless of course they don't. Rights that apply to conservatives are "essential", but those that apply to other people are a hindrance to "order". You also have the conservative who finds it troubling that food is served in the schools. Again, the conservative paradox of get a job, but stay home and take care of the kids."

Jimforjzs- and what universe are you living in. The most hated, only by the ignorant who listen to the talking heads on faux news. Muslim, hardly, not a citizen, get over it I thought all you birthers were finally convinced - how can someone as ignorant as you own a computer. I bet you even think Santorum is smart. LOL

Or the liberal paradox of do everything my way even though I don't what what the fk I am talking about. Yeah, same principle.

Since I really don't like Obama but have never watched Fox News I prefer ABC better weather man. Where in your only People who like Obama count world do I fit? I mean the man has worked really hard to turn me from someone who voted for him to someone who would rather vote for Roger Rabbit.

Yep! It probably costs a lot less than when Bush was in office. Not to mention his 2 wars. That's what bankrupted the country.

Siestasis will now explain to us how a radical Muslim father ( Hussein Obama's ) allowed him to grow up as a Christian. He will then explain why Hussein Obama refused to show his birth certificate for three years ( takes a long time to come up with a credible forgery ) even though a birth certificate reveals no information that could possibly harm him in any way, unless he just didn't have one. He will then explain why the birth certificate that Hussein Obama finally produced has no footprints on it. I'm older than him and mine does. He will then explain why Hussein Obama's own grandmother said he was born in Kenya and she was there and knew the exact house.

You're on Siestasis. Let us have it.

he probably screamed " i aint votin for you!" hence, threatening the president, with being fired! lol! yhell hold him till after the election, and force his parents to vote democrat if t hey ever want to see their kid again. hahahaha

Cass, I love this game.

“It creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name.” Nancy Pelosi on unemployment.

On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes --
and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is
particularly strong.
Barack Obama
Does Obama see
dead people?

Come on! I just answered, like, eight questions.(Whew time for a smoke break after that marathon)
Barack Obama
Exasperated by reporters after news conference during 2008 US
presidential camapaign.

"First Bush cut taxes for the rich and the
economy has rebounded with new record low unemployment rates, which only means
wealthy employers are getting even wealthier at the expense of the underpaid
working class." Nancy Pelosi. Ummm, what?

“Every week we don’t pass a Stimulus package, 500 million Americans lose their jobs.” Yep, she said it, any of you smarties want to toss out there how many people live in the U.S.?

“I believe in natural gas as a clean, cheap alternative to fossil fuels.”Nancy Pelosi. Wow, just wow.

.“The Bible tells us in the Old Testament, ‘To minister to the needs of God’s creation is an act of worship. To ignore those needs is to dishonor the God who made us.’ Nancy Pelosi.

Now it's been said that quote doesn't appear anywhere in the Old Testament and I dont know. But she claims to be a devout Catholic.

Fun game.

Think of what the Secret Service went through when Bush was in. They didn't only have to worry about assassins. They couldn't let him bike alone, play with sharp objects, or eat pretzels !

@lonereb,

I doubt you EVER voted for Obama...

And there is NO DOUBT, you WATCH FAUX....

cassandra and mindless zombies--

NO ONE WAS REFUSED BIRTH CONTROL PILLS. SEE HOW OBAMA HAS BRAIN WASHED YOU?

cannonballer--

it looks to me the rich made you free loaders a place to work. indigent

Chartsweb...Cassandra wasn't being literal. The point being made was paradox of the "conservative" party. They don't want you to be a single parent, but criticize you for taking birth control or wanting access to abortion. If you can't see that Cassandra wasn't being literal and was just trying to prove a point, then it is YOU that is brain washed...

bunny---

i'm taking you literally,,,,

it's not the conservatives that do not want you taking birth control...it's the catholics. you are brain washed because you do not see that

obama wants the mindless zombies to think he compromised with the catholics when their concern fell on deaf ears instead. nothing has changed being they will be paying for the ins in the first place. he is a faud and a disrespect to the whole country for trying to con everyone into thinking he made a compromise to the catholics.

to debate over bc pills is moot

Can you back any these claims up with facts?

He started the disrespect of a sitting president during his debates with McCain. I was appalled by his disrespect toward president Bush, but I guess you reap what you sow !! He was the first I have ever seen to be so disrespectful. I was surprised he was not arrested !! Look back at the debates if you have any doubts !!

He is disliked so much because he is out of control with spending, and is basically clueless. Never has there been a less qualified president.

Andy - Really? Are you kidding? Bush was bashed into paste. I guess it's easy to forget the bashing and remember getting bashed. I do see that you eluded to racism. The race card. Are you kidding? Even YOU know it's not worth spit so you walked around it. Nice.

Andy-1511451 - its because it's easier for whiners and complainers to dis respect Obama. Most of the time, they do it and they have NO Plan of their own. However, we all know that's really what the Republican party is all about anyway.

BS....you libs should total disrespect for bush....hypocrites!!!!!

bush made obama look good...the other main stream media candidates make obama look good...looks like it's time for a third party candidate...maybe some body that's just plain...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79cG_F1GxfI

Ummm...Where were you during G.W. Bush's presidency? He got very little respect either.

If you don't deserve respect, you don't get it.

Andy,

I am sorry you have such a one sided view of the issues that trouble many people of all walks in this country.

It is not the President as a person but the policy's like NDAA, Patriot Act, Health Care Reform and others that attack Constitutional freedoms for everyone of us. It would seem President Obama studied Constitutional Law so he could direct efforts to skirt it. This young man could be the first one to test the NDAA and he could just disappear without due process if the President wants him too. The problems are not limited to the Democrats as it was McCain who co-sponsored the bill with Lavine.

I just ask the question what is our leadership afraid of that they would hide law that allows the imprisonment of American Citizens without due process and use the United States military to do that? Do you believe this is a good use of law? What if some other President wants to name you a "terrorist" take your property and banish you to prison without due process? Would you not want me and others to rush to your defense? Would you want protection by the Constitution from this type of government action?

The possibility that current policy decisions are making it harder for those who are poor and unemployed make some people desperate. A quick look at the number of "real" unemployed and the rising numbers of poor in our country over the last three years may make people lose hope. I know what is happening in our little community because I work as a volunteer with homeless and poverty stricken people. The level of need in our small towns is greater than state and federal government agencies can handle. I know they called me just today to help get someone off the street and into low income housing. A local church donates the funds to directly help these people and I just help direct where the funds go.

Every day the media and government lie about the true condition of the economy and our citizens in an effort to stimulate spending. Most of us are tapped out and are just getting by. If the policies don't match the needs the President will not be re-elected. I am not sure any of the other alternatives are any better. We need some real leadership that is in tune with the real needs of this country. Our current group of leaders including the President is so out of touch with us they waste time and money arguing about birth control, abortion, and a list of stuff that will not matter if we can not pay the bills. I am still "Hoping" for "Change" but have seen little of either. How about you?

How about attack my church does that count? And then there is his insane federal justice in Texas who in two months time has ruled both against and for prayer at high school graduation. What does this judge do rule for whoever gets to the courtroom door first? And the three stooges in SA that have messed with the redistricting so much the the March 3rd, April 3rd, April 17th, May 29th Texas primary may have to be moved to after the convention. Does the healthcare plan cover enough tranquilizers to live in this country? I guess I have reason to be pissed.

Andy, I beg to differ with you, read Whitehat Reports if you need reasons. This story is about some nut threatening the president. I don't give a damn about the man's color, it's his attitude, lies and all his failed changes. The president is the president and NO One has the right to threaten him and it is our reponsibilty to protect the president, whether we like him or not.

You can't stereotype all of us because you think we are prejudice, just because of COLOR. obamma gives US many reasons not to like him. Always a race issue... when something looks,smells and taste like $hit, it probably is.... To get RESPECT you have to earn it... it's not a government give away!

Why do you think we hate him? We hate his arrogance and lies, Mr. No IT ALL and the list goes on!

Everyone always respected Presidents to their face until Obama. As awful as Bush was at trying to lead the country, people criticized him behind his back or in the news. No Americans shoved their fingers in his face and shrieked at him or yelled "you lie!" to his face. This is what the right extremists are doing to our President that is unprecedented and scary.

Except in the 8 swing states where both Romney and Santorum out poll him keep patting yourselves on the back. You really haven't been to many political speeches have you there is always someone yelling you lie. And poor LBJ had my generation whose comments to his face would have been bleeped out in any forum

i'm amazed that you say know one has been more ridiculed and called things that he may or may not be (Obama), have you been sleeping for th3 last 8 years. President Bush has been more rediculed and made fun of more than any person I know. And he tollk it like an man and didn't whine, wake up America and see what is infront of you. Everyone deserves respect wheter they earn it not. Too much koolade...

Yes!! Finally someone who has seen how rude the American people have been. It doesn't matter if you voted for him or not, the level of rudeness has been breathtaking! And, if you have been paying attention, you would have seen the Republicans starting alot of that. In all my years, I have never seen this level of rudeness towards a President from so many, and so publically!

We are becoming a society, that if we don't change our snotty attitude, no one else in the world will have anything to do with us. You don't have to be a fan of whoever is sitting in the Whitehouse, but this overwhelming rudeness and name calling has gotten completely out of hand. We wonder why our kids have become such brats, and snotty brats to boot, and why bullying is still going on, and that's the main reason school shootings go on, and we wonder where the little darlings get it! Look in the mirror folks!!!!

Maybe someone wouldnt have shouted "you lie" during one of his speeches if he could tell the truth once or twice during a speech. If im lying and someone tells me im lying, i dont think i can blame them for that.

Steve...While I agree with you about President Obama being a little green to be in the White House, what do you say about your "front runner" Romney??? He's had the same amount of politcal office experience as President Obama. At least the President has been to law school and understands Constitutional Law, unlike Mitt Romney who was just a business man. You may not like how he interprets the law or the laws he puts in place, but his educational background was LAW, whereas Mitt has a Bachelor's of Arts degree. Now, who is not qualified??? I'll bet you'll ignore Mitt's inexperience and have no problem voting for him this November. Actually, with the President's first term almost under his belt, he has more political experience than Mitt. Wonder how many Republicans will become hypocrits and vote for the least qualified candidate just because he has an R next to his name???

@Andy... Who has been shown more disrespect? http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/20/media-didnt-care-about-protest-signs-threatening-bush

Another clueless progressive hypocrite.

Wonder how many Republicans will become hypocrits and vote for the least qualified candidate just because he has an R next to his name???

It may approach the same number of Democrats who voted for the least qualified candidate to prove they weren't racist.

Race had nothing to do with it. We voted for Obama/Biden because the idea of Sarah Palin as VP, or possibly POTUS if anything happened to McCain, scared the crap out of us!!!!!

Well this Kenya, Muslim halve black guy turns out to be one of the best Presidents we've had in many many years. Go figure and he's not even a REAL American. But he has plans and has got many of the Sh*t jobs left to him done, he's got great political savvy, honor of State and putting Country first over and over again, he is true to his family and holding stern against all odds put before him. Not too bad considering all the obsticals he has been faced with. And the GOP opposition to choose from..... nota!

The President understands constitutional law and understands how to twist and circumvent it as well. Romney succesfully runs businesses while Obama has what??? actual experience with business or foreign policy?? Neither one of them are greatly experienced compared to some former Presidents. Unfortunately none of the alternatives are morally or ethically qualified either. Where doe that leave us?? With a bunch of people on capitol hill who couldn't care less what any of us plain old citizens think as long as they can bambozzle us into giving up or vote and our cash to them. AS far Obamas' behavior during the campaign I don't think I've ever seen a candidate so arrogant for so little reason. That is exactly why I dislike him because he came off seeming like he was better than everyone else and that he had a right to look down on and disrespect anyone oponents, supporters and the public. Hope the men and the black suits don't come after me for that. It is after all just my opinion which at least used to be protected by the constituition.

You all can deny it all you want, but the language you used and how you put "Kenya", "Muslim" and many more just to show your true color.

What Bush did warrant the hate, but for Obama I have seen more hate than even for Bush. Most hate stem from stupid extreme view of GOP.

@skrewd...that is exactly my point. Neither are particularly qualified to be the POTUS. One only is slightly more qualified over the other...as he's had 3 years in the White House. I don't know if he's done the best job or not, honestly. I haven't really been affected negatively or positively by his presidency. My life doesn't really feel any different than it did under GWB. I wish that our Congress could start working together and get some work done. Seems like all they do is argue. I don't blame the President for that either. Boehner and Reid get the blame there. As for the job experience, President Obama was an associate lawyer that represented community organizers and voters rights for 3 years, taught Constitutional law classes at University of Chicago Law, was an Illinois State Senator for 8 years, was a US Senator for one term before becoming President. I'd say he has more experience over Romney. As for foreign policy, how many presidents have actual foreign policy experience before becoming President???

Well, another fact is a president shouldn't take theirs religious belief into decision making. If I want a religious based leaders or government, I would have move to Middle East, but thankfully it's not the case here.

Thousands of years, we have many people who used religious to justify their actions, ask yourself this: Do you want to have this same things happen again?

No other President has been shown this much dissrespect? HAHAHA. If you had to endure the last four years of Bush's presidency as a Republican, and the complete lack of respect people showed him, you wouldn't be foolish enough to make such a statement. You reap what you sow I'm afraid.

obama is most guarded pres in history. having 200 or 400? death threats a day

jones--

go figure is right...do the numbers stop being a fool.

We voted for Obama/Biden because the idea of Sarah Palin as VP, or possibly POTUS if anything happened to McCain, scared the crap out of us!!!!!

So your votes were based on the vice-presidential candidate? That's like betting on the second-best horse in the Kentucky Derby because the favorite might break a leg. Did you seriously believe Palin would have as much influence on McCain as Cheney had on GWB?

And Joe Biden is nothing to brag about for sure.

@Andy,

YOU sure riled up ALL of these OBAMA HATER'S!!! LOL...They do NOT like being called out for the what they ARE!

OBAMA 2012

cuong---

don't worry the hate will come soon enough when it hits your pocket book paying for expensive healthcare that's basically worthless also. then the economy will drop to nothing...then when no one can afford to get nails done at your shop will you then see and feel what obama has done for you.

and for the rest... if your employer pays yours now or medicare will be paying, then your opinion is moot.

You really haven't been to many political speeches have you there is always someone yelling you lie

Yeah but this was like a senator or somebody...no class

Anyway. you threaten the POTUS with violence, (or anyone for that matter) you get arrested..pretty simple. I think its called making terroristic threats - term was being used before terrorism became such a buzz word.

I'm going to start crying discrimination because I'm being lumped into a group as being narrow minded, fear mongering, racist, and a hater in general. I majored in anthropology in college in the 70's. I believe in evolution. I'm spiritual, but don't much believe in organized religion. I believe abortion is a woman's right to decide and she should not be subjected to lectures or sonograms. I don't care if gays/lesbians want to get married. It doesn't bother me what their sexual preferences are. And yet I'm a conservative. How is that even possible??? I find it amazing that so many of the people I went to college with who protested the Vietnam war and government interference are some of the most outspoken Obama supporters and this is a man who wants the government to have a hand in everything we say and do. I don't want him apologizing to terrorist dictators and religious fanatics on my behalf. The man makes a beautiful speech but he is in way over his head. And how can I be called a racist when our POTUS has a youtube video calling on his African American "folks" to come out and keep him in the Oval Office so that "they" can complete "their" mission. What a crock.

@Marge,

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, IT'S a FREAKIN DUCK!

I completely disagree, that Obama has a "hand in everything we say and do", examples, please?

I should think that our president should do what ever it takes to keep from having MORE soldiers killed, and if that means apologizing for a "mistake" such as burning the koran, then he should do it!

Quack, quack...

OBAMA 2012

@Jo-An: QUACK,QUACK! Apologizing for the accidental(and by the way, were you there?) burning of the quran is going to prevent the killing of MORE US soldiers HOW?! Please explain!

Big E...I didn't really like what I was hearing from either candidate. I didn't like what I was seeing/hearing from Sarah Palin more than I didn't like Joe Biden. Based on McCain's age, it was very feasible that something could happen to him, putting Palin in charge. The thought of that happening scared me more than the thought of McCain, Obama, or Biden in the "hot seat." There is absolutely nothing wrong with my logic. If you have a problem with it, so be it.

Maybe someone wouldnt have shouted "you lie" during one of his speeches if he could tell the truth once or twice during a speech.

Maybe someone should have shouted "you lie" when GW Bush waved his hands about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

But hey, that's entirely the same as Obama, it's not like thousands of our warriors died and we spent a trillion dollars fighting in the desert for apparently no reason--oh wait.

And yet I'm a conservative. How is that even possible???

That's pretty simple, you're a moderate. You're like me actually, social liberal, fiscal conservative.

Unfortunately the modern day GOP is none of the above.

clotho---

i bet obama did not get a shoe thrown at his head.

i bet obama did not get a shoe thrown at his head.

By an Iraqi.

Cameron - Hey now that is funny! Hope he passes the pee test or he will be with Bill Mahr stoned out of his mind but giving 'sound' advice.

Even stoned out of his mind Bill makes more 'sound' advice than any of the teab@gger nutjobs and neocons on that right wing mouthpiece.

We are getting Hosed , you said, "What moron would toss his/her life away for Obama?" Good question. Answer, a total moron, what with the election only eight months away. Sheesh, even John Wilkes Booth had the good sense to wait until after Lincoln's re-election.

Why do you idiot libs constantly use the phrase neo-cons? I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Just because neo is a root used in neo-nazi doesnt actually mean neo a negative or evil as you fools seem to think. I laugh at how stupid you libs are every time i read that.

Why do you idiot libs constantly use the phrase neo-cons? I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Says the person who doesn't know what the word means. Thanks for the laugh.

"Neo" means new and "con" is short for conservative - new conservative. Meaning you're nothing like the old Goldwater or even Reagan conservatives. They'd be too "liberal" for your taste.

Mike290712--Nope I still have my Goldwater bumper sticker. Along with one from the same time that says "He's not my kind of Texan". I think I am a Neo Conservative/radical/progressive/semi liberal, depending on the issue, almost socialist on Medical care.

Mike-1911505 - sounds like you're not a "neo-con" at all. You sound like a normal person.

I don't have a problem with conservative ideas or liberal ideas - we should all have viewpoints covering a wide range depending on the issue. Just like I don't have a problem with most "flip-floppers". We all change our mind over time.

I do, however, have a problem with conservative thinkers and liberal thinkers.

Big difference. It's one thing to have an opinion or idea that happens to be liberal or conservative. It's quite another when liberal/conservative is your default state of mind and that's where the ideas and opinions come from. With that in mind, read through the posts on pretty much any article and you'll see what I'm talking about.

William,

I just hope we can survive 4 more years of our current leadership in both parties. You are a little off the bubble as the problem resides on the far left and right. We need centrist leadership. We have had enough of these poor performers on both sides of the aisle.

How do you like the NDAA and the Patriot Act? Like all the arguments about birth control, abortion, and other things that detract from the real business of making and following a budget?

How about all those shovel ready jobs? I am in construction and could sure use one. They are all just smoke and mirriors. How about the latest tax cut...$19.23 a week for 52 weeks? That will not even keep up with the rising cost of gas and food.

Yeah dude that's what they said right before my generation drove Johnson to retire from the race completely. All us crazies marching in the street like MLK. The american people haven't even gotten angry enough to get off their computers yet. Keep it up lots of upset folks out here.

No sweetwilly, people wont blame obama, but after obamas next 4 years will you still be blaming bush for how much worse off we are?

@William... You mean crazies like these? http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/20/media-didnt-care-about-protest-signs-threatening-bush

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

Please provide proof that Obama has had to deal with anything like this. Put up or shut up.

When are you people going to realize that the NDAA is a spending authorization act for the Department of Defense. It was CONGRESS who inserted the part that everyone is so upset about. Obama spoke against it and only signed the bill because we need to get the spending authorizations going in order to keep the various agencies operating...and that includes all of our military still fighting one of those wars that the last administration started, then abandoned to start the second unnecessary and unfunded war.

@anti-trust... B.S. Obama threatened to NOT sign the NDAA unless the provision allowing indefinite detention without due process was extended to include American citizens on American soil. Those are the facts. Even if what you claim was true (it's not) he still signed it knowing the provision was in there. Obama has had no problem holding up other spending legislation until he gets his way. Why not this bill? This provision is such a clear violation of our rights that Obama would not have signed the legislation if he was really against extending this provision to include American citizens on American soil. Are you really that dense? Or are you so afraid of admitting you were duped into supporting Obama that you are willing to sacrifice your integrity, honesty or anything else in order to not have to admit the truth?

Good point but it's just too simple for some to understand. Keep trying dmac.

dmac225

Once again you are LYING. McCain and Levin insisted on adding the part that allows detention of citizens. Running circles with your rationalizations and insults proves nothing but that you're an eloquent LIAR. Show us a link or shut your filthy lying mouth.

http://www.thenation.com/article/165149/dangerous-defense-bill-heading-toward-obamas-desk

These hastily added, under-the-radar provisions, co-sponsored by Senators John McCain and Carl Levin, would allow for the indefinite military detention of any person alleged to be a member of Al Qaeda, the Taliban or “associated forces.” The provisions also apply to any person who supports or aids “belligerent” acts against the United States, whether the person is apprehended beyond our borders or on domestic soil.

Dangerous ----- nice

See how easy it was to make a statement then show a little research...

I appreciate that.

Lol !!!

All is well folks. The King is okay. Nothing to see. Get moving.

Fubarak - Yep.. we got rid of one about 4 years ago. :)

And elected an ass clown instead !!

Steve-1266763 - Maybe for you, for the rest of us, we finally have a real president.

Obama 2012.

Lol...real president, my arse. That's the best laugh I've had in ages. You'd have to go back about 40+ years to find a good example of a real president.

Really? We should go back to Nixon, Ford, Carter/Reagan?? Now that's the funniest laugh I have had in a long time. Obama is 10x the president any of them would ever have or will be.

Says the one who isn't getting his rights trampled by the donkey in Washington.

Real president? wow i almost upchucked my lunch!

I worry about you when you leave your comments unfinished like that Paddy; are you feeling ok today?

Says the one who isn't getting his rights trampled by the donkey in Washington.

Not that agree with a lot Obama is doing, but exactly what rights of yours are being trampled?

You do know which ones right? You wouldn't just be throwing that comment out there, would you?

"You'd have to go back about 40+ years to find a good example of a real president." 40 years ago, Richard Nixon had just begun his second term.

You can't beat our Dick!

!st amendment second and third clause and my right to vote

Obama is a usurper. The constitution requires that the president be a Natural Born citizen. A Natural Born citizen is someone who is born to citizens (note the plural use of the word) on U.S. soil. If there was no difference between a citizen and a Natural Born citizen why was the higher standard of Natural Born included in the constitution?

Oh, that explains why dmac225 is such an infantile LIAR. He still believes that birther nonsense? Is that all you people have got? Nobody buys your stupid conspiracies because you have NO proof. Not one shred. Just a bunch of shrill crying. Just because you repeat a lie over and over won't ever make it true, pal.

You people can't attack him on anything truly substantial that is supported in fact. So you make up this imaginary "muslim-kenyan-marxist-whatever" person to attack. But that person isn't Obama it's just your imaginary friend that you guys pulled out of your collective schizophrenic imagination. And I mean that. Anyone who believes that tinfoil hat conspiracy b.s. is bordering on insane. Do you believe the moon landings were faked too?

Thank god the rest of the country isn't part of your Flat Earth Society-like nonsense. I look forward to people like you throwing even more frothing-at-the-mouth fits when Obama wins handily in November.

!st amendment second and third clause and my right to vote

Care to explain?

dmac,

birthers...fail...

No credibility there!

And lonereb, please do tell us what rights have been trampled on? Specifics, not rhetoric...

FOX, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN etc... They all have their agendas.

Need to watch a mix of them to find kernels of truth.

I think we have yet to find out what this alleged threat was. Until then we can't really say this kid ruined his life. Maybe he'll get a chance to have his side of it heard and actually get a chance to defend his actions. But I won't hold my breathe waiting for it. And really for intents and purposes this is still a kid. Old enough to drive, vote and sacrifice his life for his country. Not old enough to be able to drink, have decent insurance rates etc.. Science says young adults brains aren't even fully formed untill around 22 perhaps he can find a decent lawyer and use that as part of his defense. We have terrorist in custody that will probably get better legal counsel than he will. Since we're SOOO concerned about spitting on or desecrating the enemy.

Fox "News". The least factual source of News. The most biased source of News. I will never understand people who worship and defend a foreign Australian billionaire's "News" channel. The guy is caught up in a multitude of wiretapping and bribery to public officials charges. The only "News" channel to go to the Supreme Court to insist that lying in commentary is included in the First Amendment. Of course Roberts and Co. found it was, but only because Fox is on cable.

Does this seem like integrity in News? Do you trust that to tell you the truth?

AND...Roger Ailes DELIBERATELY uses his platform to mold these peoples opinions...

"People are afraid of Roger. Murdoch is, himself, afraid of Roger. He has amassed enormous power within the company – and within the country – from the success of Fox News."

Read about the GOP's dirty war against Obama

Fear, in fact, is precisely what Ailes is selling: His network has relentlessly hyped phantom menaces like the planned “terror mosque” near Ground Zero, inspiring Florida pastor Terry Jones to torch the Koran. Privately, Murdoch is as impressed by Ailes’ business savvy as he is dismissive of his extremist politics. "You know Roger is crazy," Murdoch recently told a colleague, shaking his head in disbelief. "He really believes that stuff."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-roger-ailes-built-the-fox-news-fear-factory-20110525#ixzz1nghuERkN

Nah actually a long vacation in Cuba is my new retirement plan. Since my money will run out just about the time the Healthcare plan declares me expendable it seems like a feasible solution.

@C_D_J55.... You mean ramp up like this? http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621 or this http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/20/media-didnt-care-about-protest-signs-threatening-bush ..... I seriously doubt it.

This kinda BS against POTUS Obama is gonna ramp itself up so darn high, they're gonna have to clear more space in Guantanomo for the American neo-nut's the 'baggers are spawning!

Well I surely hope our POS POTUS doesn't think it an intelligent move to use Guantanomo after claiming he was going to shut it down. Such hypocrisy.

He might just be unemployed and desperate. Maybe he sees little "Hope", "Change" or a future. Maybe he is a left wing nut who is angry at the President for the lack of "real" green policies. Maybe he is tired of illegals taking his day job. Who knows it is all speculation on your part.

Just love the way you slant it to support your sorry agenda. Nice.

My agenda is "opposing death threats on the president." I'm sorry if you find that controversial.

One less poster on Newsvine tonight.And some of the ones still here getting pretty nervous.

Toasty, your brown shirt and tie are back from the cleaners.

Toasty somewhere in that article was a death threat I didn't see one Nobody knows what was said. The reporting is in the same line as yesterday someone was sentenced to 180. And according to msnbc Santorum is the former Pennslyvania.Who the new state of Pennslyvania is I don't know? No child left behind right.

@Toasty.... I don't seem to recall you having the same passion about "threats to the president" during the last administration. Show us examples of this kind of hatred and threats against Obama. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/20/media-didnt-care-about-protest-signs-threatening-bush

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

Yea I remember your outrage at these types of threats against Bush.... NOT! In fact you supported these types of threats.

Uh, Dmac? I joined Newsvine in 2010...

TOASTY-NONE of us even KNOW what this alledged threat was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Way to try and convict with out counsel, a trial, evidence... You know the kind of stuff that is supposed to be part of our rights as an American citizen. Or does that only apply to those that follow your agenda. Sometimes your posts are just beyond ridiculous!!! This is why I go by this user name, people have such skewed and screwed up ideas, values, judgements etc.. that cause a skrewd world.

Don't mind dmac225, Toasty. He's just another birther making up random lies with no support in order to smear Obama. Read his last few posts and my responses. The guy just makes s*** up.

"Prove there was a death threat or there wasn't and he's an innocent citizen detained through NDAA."

"Prove it was Osama bin-Laden that was killed and dumped in the ocean or it was a different body and a conspiracy."

"Prove that Obama wasn't born in Kenya and isnt a socialist Muslim hell bent on destruction of America."

"Prove that Obama didn't forge the birth certificate that's always been online, produced in actuality and vouched for by the REPUBLICAN Governor of Hawaii as authentic."

Sorry crazy people. The burden of proof is on YOU since you're making outlandish claims that are far more complicated and far less likely to be true than the official stories presented.

Prove you lunatics don't need hundreds of hours of therapy to get over all your misplaced rage for the President. Can't prove that one huh?

Didn't know you had an agenda...........good to know that you are out there protecting our president!

@David..... And how many of these people do you think were arrested? http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621 or these http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/20/media-didnt-care-about-protest-signs-threatening-bush None of these people were even questioned.

dmac,

As a birther, you have no credibility....so no need to rant!

OBAMA 2012

yuk, yuk...funny stuff...

at first I thought it was ALL a big joke, this birthed stuff, and then I realized some people REALLY BELIEVE...amazing...truly amazing....

OBAMA 2012

So,a photo shopped ss card, is YOUR proof?? Why don't YOU prove to ME, that there are two ss cards??

OBAMA 2012

Right out of the Karl Rove playbook,

"keep them busy looking up facts, and then dismiss them as unimportant AFTER they do the research"

LOL...Keep it up TNRebel, you are amusing.....

OBAMA 2012

We can't it is already there rolling down hill with no brakes.

@Slimsky.... Were these people trying to split the country? http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/20/media-didnt-care-about-protest-signs-threatening-bush or how about these? http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

And as far as using race to divide the country what do you think Obama is doing by launching the African-Americans for Obama website? www.africanamericansforobama.org

Well said Slimsky!

SLIMSKY!!! you could have not said it any better.

He's African American and the President of the United States. African Americans are alot smarter than you think. This country still can't except he is the President, voted in by the people of this counrty. Sad ....

Roxbury I voted for him can I take it back. To the rest of you I'm sorry.

@lonereb - LOL Bush was really so bad you voted Dem !!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

And to all the right wingers: You voted for Bush TWICE ! You only have yourselves to blame.

The last Bush received many plausable death threats that were ignored.

How do you know they were ignored? Were you to be notified every time someone was being watched?

We have to take every threat against every President seriously. You're fooling yourself if you think the Secret Service blew off a single credible threat against Bush Jr..

He is half white, why is that being forgotten? Oh that's right it's more convenient & WAY more drama to throw around the race card. I don't agree with his politics PERIOD. President Obama is just another Jimmy Carter. So now I suppose I hate white people too for putting down Jimmy Carter? I am sick of left wing bottom feeding liberals and their "flowery" words. When are you going to get it through your heads, it is actions and morals that give you dignity & EARN respect?

Huh what no I was a democrat until shown the error of my ways by the current donkey in the WH now I am an independent.

African Americans are a lot smarter than you think. Especially the ones that are half white and raised by whites.

Here's hoping holmes isn't a real md.

I'm a world famous anesthesiologist.

Your world famous alright.... but for what you post

You're mama.

There is a person that went to Jail for threatening to kill bush and he didn't even have any weapons or plans. Google it he was from ND or Minn. There was also a school in ND that had a Statue of Bush and the students had to bow down to it everyday when they came to school. Google it you will find it. If that was happening with OBAMA you Republicans would be revolting. As far as disrespecting the POTUS ....I expect that people will always be disrepectful but not the people holding a public office. They are voted in to do a job by the people for the people. It is their JOB to get along, it is their JOB to set the example and be respectful. IT IS THERE JOB to work together. I have lost all respect for the republican party because they were voted in for JOBS not to rework the abortion laws, and what is the first thing they do....anything but jobs. They have also said no to many things they previously said they wanted to do to create jobs but because the president put them out there they said NO. You can't just say no to everything it doesn't work that way. We also balanced the budget with SS, medicare and medicaid on the table with Clinton. They need to figure out how to cut back somewhere else, and there are plenty of places to start.

You're mama.

That's Your, not You're. You are mama makes no sense. Then again, you don't have to be able to use words properly to sedate someone. Helps make you look like you earned that M.D. though.

NYMike way to go on your comments to (H.H Holmes MD).

Your one of the few Americans that know how to read and write.

You have to admit though the comment he made about African Americans raised by whites was pretty funny.

sorry, I meant weed and right!!! lol

He is a hispanic quit blaming us white folks he is probably as black as Obama.

So are you saying JFK and Lincoln were assassinated because they were white?

Wow! What a shock - the RACE CARD. The dog-eared, over-used, seriously abused, & all too convenient RACE CARD. Holds absolutely no water. Wouldn't matter the man's color - if he was white, pink, purple, green, or orange with chartreuse polka dots I'd STILL despise his leftist policies & his clueless commie administration. When this administration has spent more in three years than ALL presidential administrations beginning with Washington's all the way through W's combined & people don't see an issue with that, you know there's something wrong.

It's truly sad to me that our population has been SO dumbed down that it seems the majority of them cannot see what is going on in this country. We've been screwed over by the left, by the right, & everyone in between & all people can do is fight over partisan bull@!$%# & then whip out the race card. That is exactly what the powers that be want... a populace divided by race, politics, & class warfare.

CLASSIC!

And now we have proof that you can buy a degree on line...... Thanks M.D.

All I'm saying is of all the faults Obama has as a president, his skin color isn't very high on the list of things to whine about.

MD: If that truly was all that you were saying, you wouldn't have gotten so much blow back. You should go back and re-read your posts. I seem to remember a comment about hispanics breeding out of control. Smacks of racism to me.

HH HOLMES, MD=World Famous

Herman Webster Mudgett (May 16, 1861– May 7, 1896), better known under the alias of Dr. Henry Howard Holmes, was one of the first documented American serial killers in the modern sense of the term.

I don't hate him because he is african-American I strongly dislike him because he is attacking ME. My religion the one he is attacking doesn't allow me to hate him.

"Attacking religion?" What a load of horse @!$%#. He's just upholding the separation of church and state, it's not his fault if that takes away your religion's position of privilege.

Toasty stop "voting" your own comments. I will still pray for you anyway though.

ToastyMcGrath-there is NO "separation of church and state" in the Constitution. The Constitution forbids the ESTABLISHMENT of a church by the state. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" The First Amendment.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" is the exact definition of the separation of church and state. I mean, tell you what Lou, you try and come up with a better definition than that.

so according to you it is alright for the government to force me to violate my moral principals and you call that my right to free exercise thereof? Better build some new jails cause if this goes through I'm gonna be marching circles in front of the federal courthouse until I die.

Once again, nobody is "forcing" anything, LR. Stop playing the victim.

reb - you have the right to practice your religion - as long as it doesn't include shoving it down someone else's throat. That includes freedom FROM religion. Just because you like praying to some certain god does not mean EVERYONE ELSE wants to - and, they don't have to because the law protects everyone, not just you. Yes, I realize this is a novel concept for the bible thumpers, not getting their way in spite of the law, but if you don't draw the line - they'll be getting sharia law in Michigan before you can say "muhamed sucks".

If I wanted to make everyone listen to me praying to ALaLa - too bad for me. You don't want to hear it any more than a Jew would want to, any more than a Wiccan....and so on. Go to a private school if you want like minded folk. And don't ask for tax exempt status, I don't want my tax dollars going to some right wing mormon schooled nuts, or the like.

Lone, no one is asking you to violate whatever moral principles that you have. Where did you hear that foolishness? Don't have an abortion, don't take birth control. Your life do what you want to with it.

Going to be marching in front of courthouses? That's not illegal. Why would they put you in jail? As long as you weren't defacing public property or "threatening" anyone, march away.

But it does sound dramatic and all puffed up. Marching till you die, hunh? You promise? I thought you were moving to Cuba.

"Miami-Dade home of Joaquin Amador Serrapio Jr., at 236 SW 136th Place" (cold, media putting in his address, huh?) - may be the one going to Cuba, probably where the abuelos are.
Reb, just keep circling the courthouse - no doubt there are many disgruntled souls to form the parade - just different agendas. Hey, it's America.

So when minorities dislike (Obama's next opponent) and don't vote for him because he's white, it's not racist. But when whites do the same thing to Obama, it is racist. I forgot, only white people can be racist in America. LOVE OBAMA AND VOTE FOR HIM OR YOU ARE A WHITE SUPREMICIST.

Hey holmes, your previous posts kind of make you look like a troll. Oh wait... you are. Just a one trick pony, a one song bird, a.... oh whatever.

I am a troll. My screen name makes it obvious.

Oh you claimed to be a world famous doctor on the internet. It MUST be true then right?

While we're clearing things up, I'm a movie star and a hero astronaut headed to Mars to take humanity's first steps on the Red Planet. Credible huh?

H.H. Holmes, M.D.

World famous alright!!

Herman Webster Mudgett (May 16, 1861– May 7, 1896), better known under the alias of Dr. Henry Howard Holmes, was one of the first documented American serial killers in the modern sense of the term.

Again, "they" aren't forcing Catholics to provide birth control against their religious belief's. As soon as ANY religious organization chooses to become a business, they have to play by the same rules as everyone else!

No one is asking ANYONE to "take" birth control!

Sorry, but if your church wants to run a private business, it has to adhere to labor laws. End of story.

Such as Ernest?

Ernest we know that's NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!! Because if it was, Reagan would be dug up and incarcerated, both Bushes would be behind a jail cell humming swing low sweet chariot, and bill and hillary clinton would be brought up on war crimes.......along with kissinger, cheney, brezinski, and a slew of other political criminals along with wall st and corporations, no until there's a revolution by the people, for the people, we're gonna get MORE OF THE SAME, NO MATTER WHAT PARTY WE VOTE FOR

Sacred, you will get no response from Ernest. Or if you do, it will just be his "opinion." And we all know the saying about opinions. Facts from reputable sources Ernest does not have.

I am not ernest but I can answer your question.

1. Not a Natural Born citizen

2. Selective enforcement of immigration law.

3. Using the military in violation of the constitution and the War Powers act in Libya.

4. Making recess appointments when the Senate was not in recess.

5. Using taxpayer money to fund his campaign trips.

6. Fast and Furious.

7. Signing into law the right of the government to indefinitely detain, without due process, U.S. citizens.

8. Demanding that non-secured bond holders (the UAW) were paid before secured bond holders in G.M.'s bankruptcy.

9. Refusing to lift the ban on oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico after being ordered to do so by a judge.

10. The individual mandate and other provisions in Obamacare.

Those are off the top of my head. I am sure that if I put some thought into it I could come up with plenty more.

dmac, now list all the things you "think" the other Presidents did wrong too. It's easy to bash someone you don't like, isn't it.

Your first bullet ruined everything else you had to say. You lost any shred of credibility after that.

2. Cite sources. Reality has him deporting more than the last administration.

3. Once again, cite why. Everyone was for it until Obama was asked by NATO for support.

4. Sneaky tactic the right used. In fairness, the left has pulled this too.

5. Name me a single modern day President that has not.

6. Just one hot mess.

7. McCain and others slipped that in at the last minute, but since politicians like slipping crap into important bills that need to be passed, what is a person to do? Obama expressed his dissatisfaction and said he would afford Due Process to Americans.

8. Unclear on this one, but I am sure there is more to it than as cut and dry as you posted it.

9. Not true. Out of context.

10. I would rather everyone pay into health care. Not just us tax payers who get to fund all those uninsured hospital visits. Are there really people that like paying for others?

Bottom line is, your list is biased. Your first statement proves that. All Presidents are demons to some and saints to others. I am not saying Obama is either from my perspective, but I do understand that there are hundreds of other politicians making the laws and slipping in BS into bills that despite a Presidents better judgement, have to be signed.

This is about your demon and it has a source:

Veterans and troops set to lose health benefits under Obama's budget.:

•Retirees in the military health care program
will face increases in their annual costs of up to 345 per cent.

​news/article-2107470/​Veterans-fear-MASSIVE-hikes-hea​lth-care-plans-Obamas-budget.h​tml#ixzz1ngJn9hTy

I knew it they are coming to get me next.

Dude your hero has managed to do something no one else has done in 500 years. He has united christianity more than it has been since Martin Luther. They are afraid when you are done with us you will go after them.

At least us white folk are smart enough to vote for a candidates principals

As a "white folk", I laughed out loud at this. Keep telling yourself that and maybe you will actually believe it.

Most people vote based on who can air the most commercials against their opponents. People have become too lazy to research anything themselves. If they can't find it on facebook, twitter or biased reporting, they don't even bother. Being spoon fed what they want to hear is all that matters to them.

@u2mac - Please tell me you aren't one of the hypocrites who scream race card at the top of their lungs in one breath, while making blatant stereotypical racist statements such as :

"Most black folk I know are not smart enough to hold a conversation on poloitics, unless it covers welfare, food stamps, etc."

, in another.

So normally you wouldn't stoop this low ? And "Poloitics" , really ? From what I've heard if you take the sheet off your head before you type. Your grammar improves dramatically.

First, it is principles not principals.

I never throw out the race card, as a white male American it would not do me any good.

"The mosk black folk" comment is a FACT. Most black Americans I KNOW or have spoken to regarding politics have no idea what is going on within politics. Most black Americans I have spoken to voted obama because he is black.(half black)

"poloitics" Thats the best you got.

You do know that if you insist on playing the race card us white folk with all those hispanic Papists do outnumber you, right.

You do know that America is not ruled by "mob rule". Sheer numbers will not get you your way, as we have 3 branches of gov't. Otherwise, we'd still have Jim Crow, and not have women's suffrage.