Despite Ohio shooting, school violent deaths down

A group of students and parents pray for victims of a school shooting on the square in Chardon, Ohio, Tuesday.

The high school shooting in Chardon, Ohio, that left three students dead culminated a month of bloody gun violence in America’s schools, but experts say it’s not necessarily indicative of a troubling trend.

At least four shootings of students have occurred in February in schools across the country. That spate may be mere coincidence. Research indicates killings on school grounds remain rare, and overall violence in schools has been declining in recent years.


The Justice Department’s Bureau of Justice Statistics last week released a study that says school-related violent deaths are at an all-time low since it began tracking such deaths in 1992, The Christian Science Monitor reported.   

The study, “Indicators of School Crime and Safety: 2011,” reported 33 such deaths for the 2009-10 school year; of those, there were 17 homicides and one suicide of students ages 5-18. That translates to a rate of approximately one homicide or suicide of a school-aged youth at school per 2.7 million students enrolled, according to the study.

“Over all available survey years, the percentage of youth homicides occurring at school remained less than 2 percent of the total number of youth homicides, and the percentage of youth suicides occurring at school remained at less than 1 percent of the total number of youth suicides,” the study noted.

Chardon High School student Jonathan Sylak talks to msnbc's Thomas Roberts about the terror at his school.

The study doesn’t shed much light specifically on school shootings, and there doesn’t seem to be a central, authoritative national clearinghouse for such data.

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Washington Ceasefire, a gun prohibition organization, says it has tracked more than 375 school shootings in the past 20 years on its SchoolShooting.org website. The vast majority of these have been nonfatal.

Ralph Fascitelli, the group’s board president, says although school shootings can happen anywhere they’re more likely to happen “if there are guns in the home.”

“If your kids don’t have access to guns then they can’t act on their impulse,” he told msnbc.com.

But Dave Workman, who edits the Second Amendment Foundation's Gun Week magazine, says it would be a fallacy to link home gun ownership to school shootings.

“We have 90 million people in the country who own 230 million firearms and yet school shootings are a relatively rare event. That doesn’t dismiss the fact that they are horrible, terrible tragedies but the fact that so many children grow up in homes where firearms are present tends to refute the claim that having a gun in house is going to contribute to school shootings,” he told msnbc.com.

Both sides agree that school shootings aren't bound by geography and can happen anywhere in the country. Chardon School Superintendent Joseph Bergant II echoed that sentiment.

“We’re not just any old place, Chardon,” Bergant said. “This is every place. As you’ve seen in the past, this can happen anywhere, proof of what we had yesterday.”

Other school shootings in February:

  • A 9-year-old girl at an elementary school in Bremerton, Wash., is killed seriously wounded after a .45-caliber handgun fired accidentally from a backpack carried by a 9-year-old boy.
  • A 14-year-old boy at an elementary school in Walpole, N.H., was hospitalized after shooting himself in the cafeteria
  • Two teens wielding guns shot at a group of kids at a Murfreesboro, Tenn. , school. A 14-year-old was hit twice in the leg.

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Violent death and school should not have to be used in the same sentence

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Reply#1 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:34 PM EST

Very reassuring to parents that are concerned about their kids. Hah!

    Reply#2 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:11 PM EST

    MSNBC staff

  • A 9-year-old girl at an elementary school in Bremerton, Wash., is killed seriously wounded after a .45-caliber handgun fired accidentally from a backpack carried by a 9-year-old boy.

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    • Reply#3 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:14 PM EST

      A 9-year-old girl at an elementary school in Bremerton, Wash., is killed seriously wounded after a .45-caliber handgun fired accidentally from a backpack carried by a 9-year-old boy.

      The editors at msnbc should be fired suspended without pay.

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      Reply#4 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:18 PM EST

      i am sure thats comforting to grieving parents.

        Reply#6 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:15 PM EST

        It's to bad an article like this even crosses anyones mind.

          Reply#7 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:22 PM EST

          Well, well, well...so the scam is exposed...another action taken by the administration just as Obama said his administration was going to do. Good for him. Keep up the good work.

          BTW, interesting that it occured in Texas. I guess that's why these guys are fighting for less government! Don't want the government messing with a good thing folks!

            Reply#8 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:21 PM EST

            Oh.. ..well that 's comforting...

              Reply#9 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:49 PM EST

              But this is sooo much like the studies done by mr grover, the gop, the rushbo, & the nra. But hey, we are talking death by gunfire not homicides or suicides aren't we. And the population is only growing 350% every 80 years. Columbine, virginia tech. And hey - case over.

                Reply#10 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:56 PM EST

                Cnn looked at it another way. Whose #1 in school shootings. Thanks nra, mr grover, the gop, & the rushbo. I tell you it was columbine & virginia tech made this country unbeatable for school shootings. The upper 1% send their kids to harvard. Not public schools.

                  Reply#11 - Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:29 PM EST

                  I could keep repeating this loop ad infinitum et ad nauseum; however, I'll just point out that this could be nipped in the bud at #2. The same example can be used with teens and drugs, drinking and driving, teen suicide etc etc. It never changes, yet the one variable that we can affect is #2, and it is staring at us in the face.

                  1. Kid makes comments on twitter, facebook etc that he is going to bring a weapon to school or is thinking of committing an act of violence.

                  2. Friends don't take comments seriously or even bother to share concerns outside of their peer group.

                  3. Kid brings weapon to school and kills innocents.

                  4. Friends make comments such as "he said he was going to kill everyone, but we didn't think he was serious."

                  5. Public gets into age-old debate over gun control, 2nd Amendment rights, violence and bullying.

                  6. School provides grief counselors, holds candlelight vigil, declares that everyone must undergo training, make changes, enhance security, hug kids more, hold meaningful dialogues etc etc.

                  7. Facebook tribute page to fallen made filled with lots of comments like "we will never forget".

                  8. Kid makes comments on twitter, facebook etc that he is going to bring a weapon to school or is thinking of committing an act of violence.

                  9. Friends don't take comments seriously or even bother to share concerns outside of their peer group.

                  10. Kid brings weapon to school and kills innocents.

                    Reply#12 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:25 AM EST
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