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A tornado blew a school bus into a house in Marysville, Ind.
Updated at 10 p.m. ET: Tornadoes swept across the Midwest and the South on Friday, hitting hardest in Indiana, Kentucky and Ohio, where at least 28 people were killed. An entire town was flattened in Indiana, and homes and businesses were destroyed from Ohio to the Gulf Coast.
Fourteen people were killed in Indiana, 12 died in Kentucky and two people were killed in Ohio, said The Weather Channel on its website, weather.com. It wasn't immediately clear how many people were missing.
The town of Marysville, Ind., population about 1,900, was "completely gone," and Henryville Junior-Senior High School was destroyed, Clark County sheriff's Maj. Chuck Adams told NBC News. All the students escaped, some with minor scrapes, Adams said.
"This is no place to be. We've got a terrible tragedy here, and we've got to try and deal with it," Indiana State Police Sgt. Jerry Goodin told NBC station WAVE of Louisville.
In a statement, Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels said that despite improvements to disaster preparedness and warning systems "we are no match for Mother Nature at her worst." He said the full extent of the damage will not be known until Saturday.
Multiple tornadoes were still being reported in Georgia, North Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia well into the evening, The Weather Channel and the National Weather Service reported. At 9 p.m. ET, tornadoes were reported near the major cities of Atlanta and Knoxville, Tenn.
In West Liberty, Ky., the Morgan County Courthouse sustained significant damage, and an unknown number of people were injured or trapped in buildings. In Trimble County, Ky., a tornado leveled the Milton fire station.
The National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration said Friday would likely end up as one of the five biggest tornado days of the year, with "tornadic activity" leading to watches or warnings in at least 17 states.
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The tornadoes began when a "very large super-cell" of tornadoes touched down in northern Alabama early in the day, damaging homes and a prison and injuring at least four people. In southern Tennessee, another twister ripped 20 homes off their foundations and submerged boats, officials said.
At least 30 people were injured in Hamilton County, Tenn., authorities told NBC News, six to 10 of them critically. "Significant damage" was reported to subdivisions along Highway 68 east of Chattanooga.
Amy Maxwell, a spokeswoman for Hamilton County Emergency Services, said at least 20 homes were destroyed and that several people were trapped beneath downed trees and structures.
To the east in Cleveland, Tenn., Blaine Lawson and his wife Billie were watching the weather when the power went out, they told The Associated Press. Just as they began to seek shelter, strong winds ripped the roof off their home. Neither was hurt.
"It just hit all at once," said Blaine Lawson, 76. "Didn't have no warning really. The roof, insulation and everything started coming down on us. It just happened so fast that I didn't know what to do. I was going to head to the closet but there was just no way. It just got us."
The Weather Channel
A Weather Channel radar map shows the breadth of the storm system at 7:15 p.m. ET, stretching from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico.
Two of the three runways at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport were closed, and residents of Kentucky and Ohio were advised to "maintain close awareness."
At least 44 people injured in Laurel County, Ky, were taken to St. Joseph's hospital for treatment, NBC station WLEX-TV reported on its website. Officials reported head injuries, fractures as well as severe cuts. Amputations were also performed, the TV station reported.
"This is a very dangerous situation," said Tom Bradshaw, the National Weather Service's Southeast regional director.
Rare extreme warning
For only the second time, the Weather Channel issued a TORCON warning of 10 as multiple tornado-producing super-cells moved across northern Kentucky — meaning forecasters believed there was a 100 percent chance of a tornado within 50 miles. The TORCON system was developed a few years ago, and the top warning was first used April 27, 2011, during a devastating outbreak of tornadoes across the South.
Paige Colburn, an emergency management officer at the Huntsville-Madison County Emergency Management Agency, told msnbc.com that the damage in Alabama covered a 4- to 5-mile swath in northern Madison County.
"The reason that it is so wide is because we’re not talking about one tornado. We’re talking about a very large super-cell that spawned several smaller tornadoes, and there’s possibly one very large one in there, too," she said.
Maj. Chuck Adams of the Clark County, Ind., Sheriff's Office talks about the damage reported in his area. Kevin Harned of NBC station WAVE-TV reports.
Buckhorn High School sustained roof and window damage, but no injuries were reported, the state agency said in a statement. Part of the roof of Buckhorn Middle School was blown away, but all children were safe, Geraldine Tibbs, a spokeswoman for the Madison County Board of Education, told NBC News.
Back-to-back tornadoes also struck neighboring Limestone County on Friday morning. A training building at Limestone Correctional Facility, which houses 2,100 inmates, was destroyed, and two dorms and two other buildings suffered roof damage, Brian Corbett, a spokesman for the state Department of Corrections, told NBC News.
No one was hurt, and the prison was operating on generator power. The state has sent extra security, Corbett added.
March opens tornado season with a bang
A storm system earlier this week killed 13 people in four states in the Midwest and the South.
March is the start of the core of severe weather season over much of the country, said Russell Schneider, head of NOAA's Storm Prediction Center, and the "high risk" alert issued Friday — the weather service's top threat level — was the fifth during the month of March since 2000
"As far as any trends for the season, certainly this has been a very active week or two, but we really can't make any judgment on the full extent of the season at this time."
Ioanna Dafermou, Justin Kirschner, Jessica Prater, Sarah Rosefeldt, Tracy Snyder and Edgar Zuniga of NBC News; and NBC stations WAVE of Louisville, Ky., WLEX of Lexington, Ky., and WTHR of Indianapolis contributed to this report.
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I couldn't live in these areas. Wouldn't be able to sleep.
You have to live somewhere. I just hope the weather people are wrong. We had tornados the other night.
Midland makes a weather alert NOAA radio that is also an alarm clock. I just ordered one myself, as an Iowan. It will make it easier to go to bed at night, knowing that it will wake you up for severe weather.
It's not like there are tornadoes every week in the south. I lived in Alabama for 35 years and never saw a single one. Yes, they happen and must be taken very seriously when they do, but it's not a reason to avoid living in states that are susceptible to them.
Could be the wrath of God maybe?...for mistreating illegals...just saying
Either way, I would Ruuuuuuuuuun the heck out of Alabama .....
Y'all can move to Texas and bring the Bama team with you, our Longhorns could use a few tricks in defense and the running game!
PS: dont be bringin that BAMA accent and that fake BBQ sauce down here, we got our own...
Roll tide...eh, I mean go Horns!
Too bad the Alabama government hates immigrants and people of Latin heritage so much.
Some of those guys could come in handy for the recovery.
Interesting Doc. In the ways I've learned, there are Beings involved with storms and twisters. There is more to to heaven and earth than meets the eye. That being said, they aren't political beings, they seek out energy of certain types, clear negativities out, toxins and other things. I also live in a tornado zone and have been through a couple. Always in prayer, always with prayers for my community and respect for those beings. Anyway, just one opinion.
Wow, hopefully were aren't in for a repeat of last year's spring.
yeah the last two springs have been tough, almost everyday had tornado warnings in april here in memphis, and with the cold and warm fronts already slamming the middle of the country building up super cells in minutes..not good at all.
What a shame.... Five comments in and Mother Nature turns political. From my experience, commonsense.... is not very "common" anymore....
That's why I live in South Florida. You can RUN FROM A HURRICANE!
I like how the 2 people here brought up illegal immigration, I figured they would be mentioned, especially by commonsense....
we need to change the way we build our homes...my God...if these where concrete and cinder-block construction and impact windows it wouldn't be so bad at all...these homes are like chicken coops..
my heart goes out to these people
Our weather is like our politics. Nothing happens outside of the extremes any longer.
OK - Just talked to a teacher at Buckhorn HS. For all you spewing your politically divisive hatred, you might want to know there were real people involved here.
I guess everyone made it through OK. The school had plenty of warning & they took appropriate measures.
My buddy teaches class in the HS gym. He said they took shelter in the locker rooms and made it through just fine.
The world is a big place, and life is too short. Try being good to each other, even loving each other!
After living in the Midwest for 40 years, I now live in California. Though I had to take shelter many times in Iowa and Minnesota, the only time I was in real danger was when a tornado took a tree in our yard before we could even make it to the basement (this was in the days before good tornado warnings), skipped across town and demolished a house. That was a small one. There were buildings in town that had stood for 100 years and more, as there are all over the Midwest and South. In the end, what took much of that city (Cedar Rapids) was a flood of epic proportions.
In California, I've been rattled by earthquakes but never experienced damage, though you never know what might happen in the next hour. Along the East Coast and Gulf Coast, it's hurricanes. Then there are the Mississippi floodplains - and the New Madrid fault. You can't blame people for living in tornado/earthquake/hurricane/flood country, because there is no "safe" bubble for anyone. And much as I'd like to say that housing codes would help - and California HAS been working to bring structures up to code - most people can't double or triple the price of their homes to turn them into bunkers, though a saferoom or basement shelter ought to be the minimum for Tornado Alley.
The main thing is that we be there for each other, as people and as a government, when help is needed.
I live in Tuscaloosa and we are sweating it out. A lot of people here get seriously upset when they start closing the schools. Tuscaloosa was hit by one tornado on April 14th that damaged a lot of houses and then a massive "new" storm on April 27th that destroyed 16% of all the buildings in the city. We only lost 51 people in Tuscaloosa, but it would have been much worse if the schools had not been shut down the previous day since one elementary school was moderately damaged, one severely damaged and one totally destroyed.
One thing that is badly needed is a revamp of the NOAA weather warning system. Back in the Reagan days there were plans to make broadcasts that were coded by 9-digit zip code. The project was cancelled when Reagan made deep cuts in the NWS fo help fund SDI. Since I live in west-central Alabama, the weather alert radios are worthless. They go off for every alert for hundreds of miles around. The result is that they go off continuously with warnings, watches, alerts and such. Not even a drop of rain and I have already received 170 alarms. Not a good way to do business. If it is on at night, you won't get any sleep, even if the storms are far north of here. By going to a zip code-driven alerts system, only those who are actually in the path of an alert would be notified. The original plan from the early 80's also included a reverse callback system that would be for those actually experiencing a tornado, flooding, etc.
Commonsense....
Alabama does not hate all immigrants just the illegal ones. Your name is an oxymoron
Every time I hear of tornado's I think of The three little pigs story. My grandmother is from Alabama. But she lives out here now. Hope her side of the family is ok. You all hang in there. Maybe building with sticks is not so good? Check this type of building out. I have seen pictures of a Car hitting a wall built like this. The car did not do so good. Plus they can be built in domes. So the tornado blows on by. Aerodynamics's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superadobe
I think it's global warming, we Texans used to get them regularly, haven't seen one in years. It's an ill wind that blows no good, ah, whatever.
Stevo-14 I'm sorry to tell you, but cinderblocks, concrete and steel aren't gonna do jack crap against an F4, F5. Just ask the town of Greensburg, Kansas. Their school was one such building and it was completely destroyed. As in leveled. And you can also ask Hesston, Kansas about that, too. They were hit by an F4 in 1990 and the tornado destroyed many "safe" buildings as well as a concrete factory.
Bottom line, below ground is the only thing that's gonna help you.
@danimyl - Well said!! I think that goes for people everywhere, not just Alabama (or Georgia & Arizona or any other state that has tried to pass laws to protect those who are here legally).
1546, old but true.
danimyl
Commonsense....
True that, I guess No Commonsense.... was already taken
Ummm... I live in Texas too and we had one pass by our house last spring. They actually happen with relative frequency. Just because you do not physically see them does not mean they are not there. I think this is caused by childhood obesity. See, I propose we put all of today's issues in a hat and draw to see to what we attribute this outbreak.
The Keebler truck tossed its cookies.
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Ah but jq, we used to see many, every year. It has been years since there has been any damage in my neighborhood of central Texas. I should shut up I suppose, now I'll probably get blown away this year.
No, but they may prevent quite a bit of damage from an F1-F3 or if you're on the outskirts of a bigger tornado. Replacing siding or windows is expensive and might make your insurance rates go up.
Is it normal to get tornadoes this early? I lived in OK and I don't remember anything significant until at least April.
AG, it is somewhat normal to get them this time of the year in the Southeast. The weather there is very volatile in March.
It ISN'T normal to be getting EF4's and EF5's in Illinois and Indiana this time of year.
The one that slammed Indiana a few hours ago might be an EF5
For you weather novices, EF stands for Enhanced Fujita
lmfao you owe me a new keyboard!
The severity of tornadoes varies each season. It takes several variables to even cause a tornado. The real problem is more people live where tornado activity is common. The more people, the more structures. The more structures, the more damage. The more damage, the more injuries andI t deaths, thus the greater the catastrophe.
John Bayner states EF4's and EF5's aren't normal for Indiana, this time of year, but they are part of the norm at some point. There is no exact time of year they can or can't strike.
I too, grew up in Tornado alley. I saw my first twister from inside the funnel. I was five. I saw three more there, after that and was two blocks from where the tornado touched down that hit Salt Lake City in 1999.
They can hit anywhere in the United States and other parts of the world. They have a season with higher risk, but can also hit other times during the year. Their destructive power is greater than a hurricane, but contained in smaller areas. You just learn to live with them like folks in California live with earthquakes and Alaskans deal with blizzards.
I currently live in Edwardsville, IL which is near STL if you're not familiar with the area. We got tornado warnings all the time when I was in my hometown (Cape Girardeau, MO), in college (Rolla, MO) and when I lived in Marion, IL. Marion was the worst, and it's a 10 minute drive from Harrisburg, one of the towns that got flattened. The storms have always been exciting to me, I've seen them close, but luckily never had to really deal with much damage caused by them other than trees/power lines. I'm sure if my house was destroyed, I'd get mad rather than anxious. Tornados to me are more of a pain in the ass.
My thoughts and prayers do go out to anybody that's been hurt in this recent storm.
JQ's post- "I think this is caused by childhood obesity. See, I propose we put all of today's issues in a hat and draw to see to what we attribute this outbreak." LOL, and LOL again.
Also have Family in Ohio At least they have a bit more Warning on this one. Hope the injuries and loss of life is very small for something this size. That map looks crazy. Hang in there!!!! People all over this Country are thinking of you all.
were are the refugee camps ??
Chris-749391:
The upgraded alert system of which you speak has been in place for several years now. The problem is that you are apparently using an outdated weather radio. You can get a new programmable weather radio for not much at your local department or electronics store and set it to only give alerts for your immediate area and cut out all the ones too far away for you to care about.
Either you build a house with a basement or you build a storm shelter underground. Once upon a time folks had root cellars that doubled as storm shelters. Several years ago, a small town in Texas was completely obliterated by a massive tornado. There was one man and his family who survived. He had dug himself a storm shelter, worked on it at night after work. Those interior 'storm rooms' may withstand some tornadoes but in the town of Jerrell, even the foundations of the houses were gone. NOTHING was left.
my girl 1---my mother spoke often about the storm (root cellar)------she was raised on a farm in lamont iowa and they knew when the air was still and the skyline looked yellow and the birds quit singing--head for the cellar. she told of how the milk cow ended up a mile away carried by the storm and landed uninjured. if i lived in tornado country i'd get one of those pre-constructed storm shelters and have it put in the ground outside my back door. i guess people just don't think it will happen to them.
@ Granny 22
I liked your story, sound like good advice.
I know of no place that is immune from natural disasters of some kind.
When i moved to Iowa and realized the 2 closest HS teams were the tornados and the cyclones I long for hurricanes with their 24 warnings. Imoved back to hurricane country as fast as I could.
@Steven B ... there probably isn't any place that is completely immune to something ... but i live in a state where tornadoes are rare except on the eastern plains, no hurricanes, no real earth quakes, etc. i thik what that person meant was living in the mid-west where severe weather like this is pretty much expected in the spring / summer. i concur. i'd never live east of where i am now
my heart goes out to all the folks affected by this tragedy - i have a friend who was sick all afternoon as her entire family lives in Frankfort Indiana ...
Pink; Every area is subject to natural disasters of one sort, or another. Thing is your individual risk factor is very low. It is much much much more dangerous driving to work, walking to school, and running errands. The difference being those risk factors are normal. Its all a case of risk management and these higher risks aren't bothersome because they're commonly faced.
They ought to pay TEBOW some money to begin praying to god to end hurricanes, instead of to win silly football games...what wasted efforts. Come to think of it, it MUST be the Will of God to gift us with hurricanes ! So, why pray to Him ? Are we so full of ourselves as to change the already made up decision of God, to heft some bad weather towards us ?
It could be retribution because on an average day in the USA, 38 people are killed by handguns, and since God said "Thous Shalt Not Kill", the ease with which men can get weapons in this crazy country,must upset the lord....so Tornadoes and hurricanes are punishment !
This just in;
Tornado Rips Through Indiana Trailer Park Causing Five Hundred Thousand Dollars Worth of Improvements
Film at eleven !
Occasional tornadoes and lots of really stupid TeaBagging bigots - it's the price you pay to live in paradise!
P.S. - Texas doesn't know football or BBQ, and everyone there sounds just plain dumb, like Dubya Perry.
Tornado Alley is a nickname given to an area in the southern plains of the central U.S. that consistently experiences a high frequency of tornadoes each year. Tornadoes in this region typically happen in late Spring and occasionally the early fall. The Gulf Coast area has a separate tornado maximum nicknamed "Dixie Alley" with a relatively high frequency of tornadoes occurring in the late fall (October through December).
The fact that we are supposedly still winter season......Climate Change comes to mind.........
These are Super-cells manifesting Tornado conditions where they rarely see them, "Ohio"
They can happen anywhere..
JQ- "I think this is caused by childhood obesity. See, I propose we put all of today's issues in a hat and draw to see to what we attribute this outbreak." LOL, and LOL again.
There's really no reason to collapse my earlier comment. I'll just keep re-posting. What's your problem? duh. I'm glad I came back on here, happened to notice that.
JQ's post- "I think this is caused by childhood obesity. See, I propose we put all of today's issues in a hat and draw to see to what we attribute this outbreak." LOL, and LOL again.
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That's why I live in South Florida. You can RUN FROM A HURRICANE! Post 1.10
Only if you beat the traffic jam!
I live in KC,MO. Every time the sirens would go off, people would go outside to see if it was coming toward their area. If they didn't see one they didn't take cover. Not anymore. Joplin taught us a lesson, take cover. Tornado's do not discriminate. We've lived here for 20 years, and yes we've been hit numerous times, but nothing like we saw last year. It makes me want to pick up my bags and leave.
We never worried much about tornado's until last spring. We had a big one hit my area and we lost lives. We're looking at a big storm cell moving in later tonight, and yep, we will have the possibility of tornado's. I'm so NOT looking forward to it! (we don't have the benefit of sirens here either)
a few day after Joplin was hit, i was outside of Denver part of a storm chasing tour. We had found out another company was chasing the tornado(s) that had hit joplin, but as they're vans had come into the city they lost sight of the tornado because of trees and buildings and trying to get thru rain and traffic, as they turned a courner they found themselves less than half a mile from the base of the tornado, if tey hadn't been able to turn around in the street at that point, they would have all been killed. in the following weeks the company changed all of their safety protacol.
This is all Obama's fault.
This is a time when our elected officials need to be reminded of a couple of things:
1: Their responsibilities lie here at home with the American people. Not every third world country standing at the door with their hand out.
2: This is an election year. If you don't take care of us now, we will not forget come election time.
Once again watching the evening news and seeing hundreds of people converging on the disaster area to help out gives one hope that there is still a possibility of a shining future for the American people.
Real classy of you to take a story of tragedy and make a political statement. Keep it classy!!!
Very well said, especially the responsibilities lie here at home with the American people.
I think this is a good opportunity to exercise "state's rights". Alabama should fund their disaster - not my federal tax dollars.
That didn't take long. Hello Hater sam adams! Real American of you, Dude. Hope you were being sarcastic.....if so, pardon my comment.
raddave: Wasn't trying to make a political statemnet by any means. Simply stating in my opinion those we elect to represent us need to do a better job of it. This includes making sure FEMA has the funds it needs to support recovery operations. Around here when we had major flooding we all chipped in to help out why then should our political leaders be expected to do any less?
The repugs are trying to defund NOAA, who needs an early warning system?
Smaller gov't is better gov't, until it comes to disasters on a scale this large. Then they all want gov't intervention.
Be safe, as safe as you can. I ask the God of my understanding for his blessings upon you.
Yes, it is an election year. So what? I'm just waiting to see what moron blames this on Obama. Tornadoes have nothing to do with politics. The mess isn't going to be fixed in one day. Just ask George Bushie. HAHAHA.
Sigh Lynne...obviously you don't understand particle physics. Obama is facing East shouting apologies to the world, therefore the low pressure system caused by his Eastward yelling is in turn causing the tornadoes that are sprouting up all over the midwest. Honestly what do they TEACH in school these days.....
@thatguy... too funny - rofl
Those hundreds of people heading for disaster areas do not last long. Since April 27th there has been less than 5% of the damage repaired/replaced. Thousands of people did come but an absolutely shocking percentage of them only wanted to look for bodies. When told that NO volunteers would be used to search for bodies, most left immediately. There is still an overload of used clothing here. I am not sure exactly what a tornado victim is supposed to do with a 1950's electric green prom dress, but I'll bet somewhere someone is enjoying a good tax deduction.
And the politicians take charge. Much of the housing that was lost was occupied by poor and working class black families and students. That land is being taken and given to developers to build apartment buildings to aleviate the overcrowiding on the UA campus. New housing codes are being rushed into place to keep people from rebuilding by imposing new setbacks, etc. A great master plan where all new businesses will be hidden from the streets and Tuscaloosa's lack of viable public transportation is being ignored in favor of heavily landscaped bike paths to connect these "new communities" along the tornado route.
And everyone is learning the hard way that Nationwide is not on your side. That politicians will always try to capitalize on the misfortunes of others. That greed trumps compassion in these sorts of events.
Really feel sorry for those who lost everything in past tornadoes. Politicians have seen to it that their loss was permanent. Of 160 subdivisions badly damaged in the California fires of the 1990's, not a single one has yet been completely restored and rebuilt. And it won't be any different for future disasters.
Retired sfc - raddave is a staunch supporter of obama and by inflection you were denigrating his idol. If the potus was bush, raddave would of agreed and then blurted out a small comment about the victims.
I find it weird that most of tornado alley is conservative, votes republican and the republicans want to do away with FEMA. Tell me how people would recover without it? Especially when living with relatives is not an option.
Hey Retired SFC - a quick question for you. Are you a Republican or a Democrat? The reason I ask you that, is because in your post you say "This is an election year - if you don't take care of us now, we will not forget come election time." You see, the Republicans want to defund NOAA, which uses your tax dollars to fund the National Weather Service early warning system for storms. Republicans also want to cut funding for FEMA, the government agency tasked with cleaning up after disasters here in the US. In addition, Republicans are always talking about getting the government "off our backs." So if you are voting Republican, you should not expect the federal government to help you during disasters, because they don't believe in it. If you feel (as you say in your post), that the government DOES have a place in helping people, then you should be voting Democrat. Too many people want the government "off their backs", until they need the government's help.
Cindy not really a logical argument for whom to vote for when the government is running deficits and carrying $15 trillion in public debt.
Regardless I heard that a tornado just took out the town of henryville in southern illinois/indiana. best wishes to this community.
I'm not sure what's so bad about wanting to get rid of FEMA. Disaster relief is best done at the local level by those who know the area and how to help. What states need is funding for rescue efforts and temporary housing. We don't need FEMA and their toxic trailers to deal with that. The Red Cross and the National Guard are likely more effective.
You have no idea what I would or would not have said if Bush was president. I also bashed a "liberal" below for politicizing this as well. But, you mental midgets can't let any story be reported on here without
I have paid my insurance premiums. I have gone over emergency plans with my family. I have places to stay, and am a place to stay if needed. There is nothing I would need from FEMA, Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc. in the event of a disaster short of a nuclear war. People go about their lives, living for the moment and expect everyone else to help them when the poo flies. A little planning goes a long ways.
Yeah well a good number of those people converging to help are those nasty religious nuts as Obama's supporters call them. Yeah well your insurance premiums will help about 7 months down the road. And if an EF4 cuts a mile wide swath through your area how many of those places you plan to stay at will still be standing. It is good you planned but don't get too cocky because nature doesn't care about your plans.
All republicans who decry entitlements... remember that the next time you want relief from a natural disaster.
I think there should be a law; anyone found voting republican should have to forfeit their right for ANY kind of government assistance, no fire department, no police, no access for the public roads or transportation, no protection by our armed forces, not a drop of anything that is fully or partially funded with tax dollars. In return, you don't have to pay any taxes and we will ship you off to your war zone of choice with a canteen. Since the majority already stock-pile plenty of arms they won't need to be provided with any.... the canteens on the house, consider it a going away present.
Seems republicans just don't like entitlements unless they are the ones who want them.
lonereb,
I live out in the sticks. My closest neighbor is 1/2 mile away. I have family 20 miles east and west, along with some closer. It will take a truly BIBLICAL event to get us all.
As I sit writing this, it's hailing like crazy here in east central IL. Hail generally precedes very bad weather, and often tornado activity. So, we're in hunkered down in our finished basement prepared for the worst. What's most frustrating during each spring, is the constant unplugging of all of the expensive audio and video equipment from the AC receptacles, and going to the basement - seemingly once a week. With all of the indirect lightning strikes, the last thing I need, in addition, of course, to the possible loss of life, limb, and the house, is the loss of expensive A/V equipment. Obviously, all of this "stuff" is minor and inconsequential, compared to life and property damage, but in the 60 years living here in the midwest, I've never lost a piece of electronic equipment due to power surges caused by indirect or direct strikes during lightning storms, or other nasty weather. Now time to unplug the PC! BTW... our family always heads to the basement whenever a tornado warning is issued, and often when only a tornado watch is issued, as it's always better to be safe than sorry.
I'm over here in west central Indiana. Don't send it our way! (Although the radar clearly shows you are). Have a blessed and fun season! The power and beauty of these things is awesome. The destruction and death they leave behind are humbling and tragic.
Not sure if you are aware of this but they make a Whole House Surge Protector that installs at your electrical junction box where the power comes into your home. We live in Kansas and had the same problem you are referring to regarding expensive a/v and television equipment. We installed this surge protector and no more problems. Our electrician is the one who advised we install it and it does need to be installed by a licensed electrician but it truly works. It has been on our home for about ten years. We have a theatre room with expensive high definition a/v equipment and all the bells and whistles. Never have had a problem since this surge protector was installed and we have had many, many electrical outages and surges as we live in a rural area.
@ Colloquor, Sirlafalot... Praying you are safe and far from harms way. For all that are going to be affected by this nasty storm.
Thanks Fedup. So far so good!
thats why they make surge protectors and breaker boxes, just shut non essential breakers down ... lets use common sense here people, oh thats right people dont have any these days
I live near Joplin, Missouri. Oh look, a cow and a firetuck jus flew by the window.
That's affirmative on the flying bovine Storm Rider! Hope he lands in my yard!
Steven, I live near Joplin, too. That was not an appropriate comment.
My daughter and 2 grandsons and my oldest son, thankfully, survived the Joplin tornado. Their jobs did not. They moved home to Stone County, where most of my family lives, Kimberling City, and are now dealing with the aftermath of the F-2. (Plus family in Branson area) Thankfully, we were unhurt by that one. We love SW Missouri and wouldn't live anywhere else. My grandchildren are 7th generation of the area and we are used to the weather. It's too beautiful to move and a great place to raise your family.
The lord just flew by my window. thank the lord.
welcome to 2012...
Give me a break. This is not the end of the world.
Lynne, you obviously live in an area not affected by tornados? Just curious, have you EVER experienced the devastation from one???? End of the world? Definately in the last days.
Lynne, as far as the end of the world...tell that to the customer I just had that called for her TV to get repaired and is extremely upset that our call center in the stricken area is not responding. Some people, you really have to wonder about.
Well here in Louisville, the news and weather stations have put the fear of God in everybody. Someone told me Jim Cantore is here from the Weather Channel--never a good sign when he shows up (no offense, Jim!).
We've got Tor-Con 9, whatever that is! We're just waiting to be wiped off the map!
Exactly. Apparently I-65 is tornado alley...
Savior Laire - on the Gulf Coast, during hurricane season, that's known as the "Oh eff" moment when they finally announce where Jim Cantore is stationed in the "cone of uncertainty." Have said it myself on more than one occasion.
I have lots of friends and family in Louisville and New Albany - I'm thinking of you guys. Stay safe.
just talked to my father in law who lives in louisville y'all are fine
It would ne INFORMATIVE if the air heads "reporting" this news would include a map describing the areas threatened. Guess they don't mention that in Bonghit 404 class they take in school.
Tornadoes just came through Huntsville with some baseball-sized hail. Feels like April 27 all over again.
I was raised in Ohio..Southwestern part...Around Dayton...never saw weather like this as a kid..
But to live there in the spring..its an adventure in itself..weather wise.
You must be pretty young. Xenia, Ohio. April 3, 1974.
I remember that night- the night of a thousand tornadoes........or, at least it seemed that way.
here in SW Ohio - usually it seems everytime the wind blows there's a tornado siren (especially this time of year). I'm taking this one pretty seriously... the bad weather is supposed to start hitting around 5:00 p.m. not looking forward to the drive home.
god is punishing Alabama because there immigration law all going to hell
I was born and raised in Clark County, Indiana and never saw a tornado. But the sky did turn strange colors at times.
butler county got off easy ,skys are clearing up,ang the tornado warning has subsided as of 4:30 friday eveningbutler county ,ohio that is ,as for tonight who knows
Dana - not being sarcastic, but I bet you are under the age of 40. In the the mid-late 70's there were consecutive springs marked by tornado outbreaks like this, including the Xenia tornado as someone mentioned. Even as far south as Louisiana. My dad said there were consecutive years of bad spring storms when he was a kid, so I'm wondering if this a a 30-or 40 year cycle?
Why thank you karma2327 for your tuly kind remark ! I am sure the people of Alabama will appreciate your thoughtfulness !!
Now please tell us all, genius,why are Tennessee and Indiana being punished ??? I bet you can't answer that.
Nope, jim, there's no answer for your question. People like karma just can't understand that their hatred and bigotry are exactly the same as that which they constantly complain.
I sure hope the republicans in Alabama realize that any federal aide will have to be off set by spending cuts for any other federal programs that are now in effect in Alabama. The republicans feel this type aide is a hand out and you should have been prepared to take care of yourselves. These cuts in emergency federal aide are needed to allow the government to reduce the taxes on the 1%, because the 1% are tired of being force to send tax dollars to 2nd class citizens (the 99%ers ) that did not prepare for disasters. Republicans policy should be the law of the land because we have to take care of the 1% so they can create new jobs.
You stay classy as well.
But Gary is right. Local weather offices are always at risk of being shut, which doesn't seem like a big deal unless you live in a wide swathe of the country away from the oceans. Believe me, we need federally supported doppler radars.
How come Obamy hasn't got up and going on some relief scheme or another by now? You remember how much crap Bush got for not moving fast enough for you libs?
hey ras bite me- bush and his croonies have fought the concept of climate change since day one - and the people in the midwest and south were their bggest supporters - why cant they just pray away the problem - what a freakin joke - now the people who called this issue a hoax ae paying the biggest price - god works in mysterious ways
You DARE to use logic to counter the GOP spendthrifts? They only understand spin. They resent you painting them into a logic corner where spin is the only possible way out. Or silence as they wait for the paint to dry
Fred thinks global warming caused these tornadoes.... liberalism and ignorance go hand in hand.
I don't think republican's are against disaster assistance. That seems to be twisting their intent to suit a left-sided agenda for reelection and dividing this nation. A more appropriate question could be, how much assistance do you give? Do the taxpayers fund 2 years of assistance, 4 years, 6 years...? How much assistance do we give? Where does it end? At what point are people expected to take up for themselves like they did prior to the calamity coming to their lives? How long ago was Katrina? The last FEMA trailer JUST left NOLA...
Seems we just keep adding a "0" to the end of financial aid. At some point, there has to be an end to the freebies so those affected do not become addicts of the system, and so the taxpayer's dollar can go to assisting the next victim.
I don't think republican's are against disaster assistance. That seems to be twisting their intent to suit a left-sided agenda for reelection and dividing this nation. A more appropriate question could be, how much assistance do you give? Do the taxpayers fund 2 years of assistance, 4 years, 6 years...? How much assistance do we give? Where does it end? At what point are people expected to take up for themselves like they did prior to the calamity coming to their lives? How long ago was Katrina? The last FEMA trailer JUST left NOLA...
Seems we just keep adding a "0" to the end of financial aid. At some point, there has to be an end to the freebies so those affected do not become addicts of the system, and so the taxpayer's dollar can go to assisting the next victim.
While I agree with your comments generally, I think partisan sniping at this point is in pretty poor taste. People are suffering and if our government can help, it should.
bobby boy in virgina - what caused the storms, god , is god causing all these storms - the ice caps are shrinking , and not coming back - that much is a result of all the poision your buddies have spewed into the air - these storms are getting stronger and more common earlier abnd earlier , no winter up here this year - texas is a desert - call it what you want - all i know is things are CHANGING , fast -and the scary thing is i do not need a scientist showing us data to prove that the earths temp has gone up a half of degree - this change is damning - you can see it - the weather has changed dramatically in my lifetime - not causesd by man - ok - whatever live in texas, midwest,south .... here are your choices move ,move underground or .... i guess pray , if it makes you feel better - but sleep with one eye open
It's just awful isn't it fred?
Man you hit that on the nail head that was GREAT
@Gary,
Well said, and BTW, My Brothers name is Gary Hanson so if this is you, "HI"
I live in tornado alley, pinkfloyd, and it's not too bad once you get used to it. I just moved to MO but lived in KS from 1988-2011. At first, you never get much sleep during storm season. And after you've ran to the basement or crawled into a roadside ditch a zillion times, eventually you learn to relax about it a little. Now when it's tornado weather I go outside and watch for it.
That's the spirit ....
Enjoy it ....
Just stay safe ....
Is it global warming yet?
No it isn't. If it was warming the atmosphere would be more stable and would result in fewer storms. Storms form from the interaction of cool and warm air. The super outbreak of tornadoes in 1974 happened when there was a strong La Nina (cooler Pacific water). Last year there was a strong La Nina too and it has continued into this year. Cold dry air aloft (cold front) and warm moist air below (southern winds from the Gulf). La NIna has allowed the air to be even colder and that can make these storms even stronger.
During the 30 years warming half of a natural 60 year warming/cooling cycle tropical cyclone numbers trended down. The US is actually setting a new record for the longest length of time since a major hurricane (Cat 3 or above) has hit the US. The old record goes back to the time of the Civil War.
Storms and tornadoes may cause more damage today but that is because there are more people living in more areas.
I urge everyone to take the National Weather Service Skywarn class. You learn how storms form and most importantly you learn how to recognize cloud formations and learn which are dangerous and could lead to tornadoes and which are harmless even if they might look scary. Be alert and be ready.
One additional thing you will learn at Skywarn is that forecasting and radar isn't perfect. The National Weather Service still depends on trained storm spotters on the ground to confirm what radar is indicating. You can actually help yourself and your community by attending Skywarn.
I'm still gonna call it global warming. Just because the air is cold doesn't mean it's not an effect of the global temperature average slowly rising over our history.
Global warming is real and will have significant effects (including rising sea levels and more precipitation) even if it doesn't increase the frequency of hurricanes and tornadoes. Hurricane Irene showed the damaging effects of flooding even for a Category 3 storm.
Are you sure of those prognostications Eric? A bit of warming is real, all the fear mongering and scary scenarios are not.
And Prokhor...A tad of warming is not causing this weather. It is the temperature contrasts which start to occur every spring in the Southeast.
And economykiller...you are correct about La Nina, which is still evident this year but winding down, causing greater instability and stronger storms.
SO the glacers melting away artic ocean navigation in winter possible OH and don't forget the SNOW in Texas must be getting cold down there in Texas the normal temp of 110 has gone down to 109 in texas maybe we willo have glacers starting in Texas HA
If anyone were to bother themselves with a simple search through Google you'd find that La Nina and El Nino have been around as a natural cycle since around the 16th century; or at least that's when we noticed the patterns for the first time. It wasn't actually recorded and put down on paper as a scientific fact til around 1920. Since then, the cycle has increased in how quickly it turns over, going from La Nina to El Nino quicker than it ever has before along with an increased intensity of the actual effects observed.
Also, it's not just a tad bit of warming. Earth is about as hot as it's been in about 400 years. There's actually physical evidence proving that too. Everything from cores from glaciers, tree rings and boreholes are backing that fact up.
I prefer the phrase "catastrophic climatic destabilization".
yes it is global warming open your frickin eyes when will people decide its global warming cant believe how — — — — id people can be guess they dont want to change anything cause it might effect the bank account
Savoir Laire -
Tor-Con 9 appears to be
a 96% chance of a Tornado within 50miles.
Hunker down and stay safe! Please heed all warnings.
Today will be he ultimate proof that our weather has changed by being amplified due to a warmer Pacific. When you change the status quo from a large ice cap to a smaller one, it has to manifest itself SOMEWHERE eventually as more heat is put into the system. So here we go
well put - when do you think they will change their concenus - ........... when they have to live underground - between this and the mess in texas . priceless simply priceless - and sure we/i feel for the people whos lives have been ruined forever - but thats the price you pay for following stupid (or greedy these companies know exactly what they are doing ,they just dont care how they affect the planet , the bottom line is all that matters )
Can't live underground because of the instability caused by "frackin"......
One day's bad weather is due to " man made" global warming?
You are delusional.
You clowns left out that "it's all Bush's fault" and "vote democrat".
Hot weather is proof positive of man made global warming. Then when cold weather comes, it is also proof. A tornado is proof, rain is proof, lack of rain is proof, etc.
This type of thought process actually does offer proof of the idea that liberalism is a mental disease. Lie, cheat, steal - the democrat and MSM way.
No, it has nothing to do with liberalism. There is already good statistical evidence that global warming is influencing drought and precipitation patterns in some areas. Scientists insist on such evidence; they don't make such claims based on political beliefs.
But the Pacific is still colder in its eastern regions thanks of La Nina. Sorry to shoot down your theory. There might be some statistical evidence Eric, but you can't seem to provide it so people can decide if you are telling the truth or not. Your warming alarmists sure seem to lack even a basic understanding of meteorology and climate.
Large scale circulations and oscillations of upper air patterns drive these storms, not the temperature being a couple of degrees warmer on the ground, which is caused by the sun shining on it, not what the water temperature is a half world away. Of course this whole debate is political. I havn't seen another area of science where the lay people seem to be so convinced of what some scientists are saying, that they parrot preposterous claims without a shred of supporting evidence.
bob in no birth control land - one days bad weather - dont tell me fox news right - what about yesterday and still going on thru tomm and last year where they set a record for tornadoes - please you are going down with the ship arent you buddy - listen quick story, growing up in northeast when i was a kid we would skate on frozen lakes all winter - now not only no skating , they dont freeze up at all - ever , how come 50% of ski lodges around here are going out of business - i wore the same light jacket all winter , never wore a hat or christ gloves who needs gloves, fire wood who needs it have not used fireplace all winter - use to all the time - no scientist , just the way it is now , getting warmer alot warmer
Bob in Virg this is far from one days bad weather, last year was record breaking this year is going to break that there was a months worth of tornadoes in one day, people keep the blinders on just say its not global warming someday u will believe when it is in your face, we can not treat this world the way we do and expect the world to just keep going look at the amount of earthquakes these days but keep making excuses feel bad for the people involved in all this
i suppose the number of earthquakes is not increasing as well hmmm wonder what could be causeing that if it was taking the lakes of oil from the earth and they knew it bet they would not stop we r so intellegent
The statistical evidence can be found in published research papers, such as the report that NOAA published last year on Mediterranean droughts. There are also published studies of severe rainfall events in the U.S., for example. And yes, we're aware that "Large scale circulations and oscillations of upper air patterns drive these storms," but those circulations still involve regional warm and cold air masses, and until more research is done, we can't be certain what effect global warming will have on tornadoes. If nothing else, it certainly appears that the storm season is starting earlier than usual, in part due to a warm winter.
Watch out "red" states...here we go again...hope you have good insurance...remember you want to cut the federal budget so don't even think to ask for federal help.
That's what they always say anyway as they give billions to countries and corporations for behaving badly ....
You sir are a complete IDIOT, may a tornado come rolling up your butt, and fix the mess up on your own.
Well, Toyota, as a native-born, "red-state" Alabama hillbilly, I can tell you that yes, we have insurance and an in-ground storm shelter. Thanks ever so much for worrying about us.
Re endillegals' comment above. This clearly shows the intelligence and kindness of a liberal. He is clearly an obama voter.
I agree nolie, but endillegals will not receive any suspension for his remark because the only thing more inconsistent than the weather in the South are the "moderators" here on this website.
Communities usually offer weather classes for free. My community offers storm spotting classes at several community colleges. For those people who want to get informed it isn't a bad idea. Understanding the difference between a wall cloud, scuds, outflow, inflow, and other classic severe storm indicators is interesting and can help save lives. My neighbor is a trained storm chaser and I went along for a ride last year when storms broke out in central Oklahoma. I saw my first tornado form from a supercell wall cloud with all the classic indicators such as the meso-cyclone, beavers tail (inflow), and hail core. My buddy was on the radio warning other spotters and the local communities were online with our laptop feed. Eyes on the ground are far better than radar because radar is limited to a few thousand feet of scan due to the curvature of the earth. Get informed and live. It is the right thing to do if you live in tornado proned areas.
That is for people into such things. For the average person it should be "take all severe weather warnings seriously and don't be out shopping and doing trivial things and putting your life at risk."
There probably could be an added push to ensure people have a tornado-resistant shelter in or near their home where they can comfortably ride out a storm in safety.
I remember a guy built a cement shelter and a few weeks later his house was destroyed by a tornado and his life spared by that shelter.
And people survive tornadoes by going into a standard constructed closet. Guess the pragmatic thought would be if it is time, it is time. Say goodnight gracee
So sad to see, however, there is more coming and it will get worse. God is going to pour out His rightout indignation upon this country for it's deceits and turning on God and what His word says. All you mockers think this is funny, let's see how funny it is when God destroy's this once, no longer great nation which has choosen the road of sodom and gomorrah, you can thank your president and those who voted him and his policies in which is a major factor. God will not be mocked. In the eye's of God, being gay or lesbian is an abomination. You want to avoid further disasters, vote obama out and anyone who supports the things described in Roman ch. 1.
Obviously a latent homosexual in denial. Otherwise why bring it up on a weather blog? Too easy. Next!
Hahahahaha, God is doing this because we voted Obama in office. You're giving us Christians a bad name. What book have you read? And you're right, mockers DO think this is funny.
none - god is not causing this you moron - its climate change you know the destruction of our planet and its natural order caused by republican policies - the event you people say is not happeneing - here is a test go to texas and these middle anmerican towns and ask them if they believe in global warming and next if they wished they had listened to the science and the facts more - promise you they believe now more then they did say 5 years ago - happeneing fast pal - and your side said not happeneing - keep praying and see where it gets you - buried under rubble or living in a desert, what a bunch of tools -
I've always found it a little ironic and strange that tornadoes only seem to slam the RED STATES and all you god-lovin' and god-fearin' people all the time. Gee........could it be that god is punishing all you Republicans and Tea-Partiers?...............it's just too coincidental, don't you think?
Tim, you're an idiot.
OMG!! the bible says a lot of stuff, and a lot of it is stupid! it's written by man to control man. there are passages that describe how to sell your daughter, how hard to beat your slave, and to smite your neighbor for working on the sabbath. why don't you put these passages into practice? i know why, it's because you pick and choose passages from an ancient story book to back up your judgement of others, when you're probably doing the same thing behind closed doors.
you are no messenger from god, so get off your high horse. you're full of sin just like the rest of us dirty, sinful beings.
Oh Noneyabusiness, you sound like someone from the Westboro Baptist group; sometimes I wonder if people like you are put here as plants to try to induce derisiveness towards Christianity. People get so caught up in the absurdity of what you're saying that they completely ignore the idiocy of those like Fred and Tim who would be wise to recognize that just because they're not the biggest idiots on the block doesn't mean that they have graduated out of that classification. Fred - you guys have gotten to a point where any abnormality, even when it has been proven to be the result of another scientific phenomenon (i.e. La Nina), is automatically attributed by your ilk as the result of human generated climate change. You're so predictable; if it rains it's climate change, if it snows it's climate change, if there's a slight breeze from the west it's climate change, it's all freaking climate change. Do you recognize how ridiculous you sound? Tim - you're just a political hack with absolutely no character who rejoices in the suffering of those aginst whom you are prejudiced and bigoted. You guys just got pwnd.
i think its funny when people say GOD IS PUNISHING US FOR __________— <(insert something you dont agree with politically here) if god was punishing you for that then why does he wreck trailer parks full of people who vote for your political side maybe your side is wrong and thats why hes targeting your people i feel sorry for people in this storm but you being a zealot is more frowned upon than gay marriage just so you know also since being gay is genetic that means god made gay people obviously for population control reasons and you saying god hates gays is blasphemy since god also created genetics and science
Tim Smith, I couldn't have said it better.
Hey Nonena, if you think this is God's wrath, maybe you all are still being punished for the enslaving and killing of blacks that the people in your state took part in.
Oh Ken, now that was just silly. If anything this is America's punishment for the stealing, raping and pillaging of the tribal lands of this continent's original people. Why do black people deserve more retribution than indians? What about the ivory billed woodpecker? I'm pretty sure if anyone deserves to wield the wrath of God it's the ivory billed woodpecker. What about the black people living in the vicinity of where the tornadoes hit? I guess they're Uncle Toms? You're a racist and a race-bater Ken.
it's not funny...i find you to be so sad...to think God would do this...isn't the GOP messing up this country enough...freaks like you don't see nothing wrong with killing millions in the name of God...so get real...there is no God...it's just ways for control freaks can avoid paying taxes and controlling people and getting fools like you to send them all your money...show me proof there is a God...lets see the pictures...God did not write the bible it was man and man has changed it over time...
you would think that God would be going after the states that let gay couples marry...looks like it's the narrow minded states that are being hit...gee could that be a clue...
Ken, I somehow knew slavery was going to be brought up because a tornado was coming through Alabama. I think it's time people pick something else to whine about. Slavery ended since before you were born so it doesn't make a lot of sense to blame tornadoes (a very normal and common occurence in Alabama) on slavery. It's been gone a long time. And are you even black? What gives you the right to speak for them. Alabama has one of the highest black percentage population. So they apparently don't hate Alabama. Blaming innocent lives lost in storms on slavery isn't just stupid or wrong, it's just plain blasphemy.
Noneyabusiness,
LMAO
You are too funny.
I'm very sorry but the Bible thumping bastards down there in the Bible lBelt are going to get the shnow kicked out of them
GOD doesn't like what is happening down there their going to be toast soon
It's the RED STATES that are being hit the lmost some colateral damage talk to ms Odonnel or what her face is from MD she said that god was unhappy with YOU people
Illinois and Indiana are red states? Even if they are, y'all still sound like the evil twins of the Westboro idiots.
JQ- go to any site that will furnish and look for the pictures from space of our polar ice caps that are disappearing, real pictures jq not a leap of faith where you just believe in talking snakes- that is our air conditioner jq - now go look up the climate of venus thats what eventually happens when your air conditioner breaks - ask the good folks of texas how their summer was last year - thats nothing compared to whats coming
FRED a talking dog told the zodiac killer to kill people dont doubt talking snakes
Fred -
Yeah, I know, I live in Texas and I've lived here all my life so I am aware of how hot it was this passed summer. I'm also aware of how hot it always freakin is in Texas in the summer. I HATE Texas summers but it's Texas and the summers are known to suck. We broke some records last year but barely. Which tells me that 1981 must have sucked pretty bad too; I guess we must have had a slight cooling trend in those 30 years? Also, too bad we do not have satellite info from the last 2 or 3 thousand years; then maybe we would have substantial comparative information and your argument would have some relevance. You spew ignorance and claim it as fact all the while screaming accusations of ignorance at those who scientifically question the unproven aspects of your religion. You make fun of Noneya (not that I blame you) for his/her obvious zealotry but you're just as blinded by irrationalism. Good luck with that.
derpy the second,
Dumbass, that was Son of Sam, not the Zodiak killer.
Gonna be a lot of tranquilizers popped today in the South. Shell shock from thunderstorms. There but for the grace of God they all go, rolling on the weather dice and hoping it isn't snake eyes
If there are so many tornados then why do you see 50 to 100 year old houses, buildings, trees, around? The other day I saw where a tornado had sucked off a roof in some small town; on national news!??! Bubble gum for the eyes. Just like when an airplane crashes, I saw in the front page where an airplane landed in a field, no one hurt, no damage; front page of a major paper. Guess you gotta sell newspapers.
There is no reason why we can't build reinforced concrete houses. It isn't even much of a cost issue. We also can install steel rooms in old houses, again, how much would you pay for piece of mind?
Instead, we keep forcing more poor folks into trailers. They shouldn't be allowed to build a trailer without a tornado room in it. It's like air bags for your house.
I am safe all the time,
My wife is an air bag.
Not sure what to make of that, Ron. But if you are safe, that's great! :-)
:-)
Just playing around and keeping an eye on the sky,
You will be glad to know that i did take a slap to the head when i posted that..lol
underground shelters are definitely the way to go. i live near Joplin, Mo., and before i went and witnessed the devastation, i had the preconcieved notion that brick and concrete buildings would still be standing. not true. one of my favorite stores was totally wiped out, and it was made entirely of concrete and was only a story tall. tornadoes are insanely powerful.
investigate monolithic type construction.
http://www.monolithic.com/stories/monolithic-dome-home-survives-missouri-tornado
Some of us ignorant people have heard of them before but most of us cant afford to just jump right up and buy one.
thank you all for letting us know about tornado shelters and stuff as well,
Wish we would have thought of that ourselves.
ron : Someday I plan to move to TN. Thats if my FL home ever gets enough value back.
I'll buy land there and build a monolithic. The price cost is about 10-15% higher to build. But you get a break in your insurance for they are both wind resistant & fire resistant. And energy efficient.
And if its someone is replacing a destroyed home , I believe FEMA has a program to help.
I don't think anyone is being forced into trailers; I'm pretty sure they make that choice. What you have to be careful of is removing that choice "for their own good" because it would be a limitation on a person's liberty to choose where and how they live. Just because a choice is given does not mean that specific option must be taken; it's no secret that trailers get hammered by tornadoes with uncanny consistency. Some people are willing to take that risk and they should be allowed to take that risk. Although it seems harmless and full of good intentions, your philosophy is dangerously flawed.
Living in my trailer as you call it, lets me go on fishing vacations to Alaska and Canada Take my wife to Hawaii on occasion and also lets my son race cars and my daughter go to college.
I live within my means for the way i wish to live my life and that does not include a brick home.
I do not blame anyone for where i live, i happen to love it.
Scar-414733,
Right now we're under a tornado watch. Super cells are popping up all over the central part of Tennessee. I live in the Upper East Tennessee area, and they're opening storm shelters for people to ride out the impending storms. I guess they're expecting the worst and hoping for the best.
I'm remaining at home, shelters won't allow pets and I won't abandon them. We don't normally have to worry about tornado's here, but after last springs tornado's and the resulting loss of life, it's on my mind right now. So if we lose our home tonight and we manage to come out of it alive, a monolithic would be something to consider.
Most people live in a trailor because they can't find a good job to support anything elase NOT thir==eir choice CHOICE your a jerk
Kai : My sister is in Townsend TN. (hunkering down with her dog) thats another reason why I'm following the subject so closely. If I had the money , I'd put her and me up in one. Good Luck , Hope You and my sis get no damage.
Thanks, Scar. I'll keep your sister in my prayers, and her pooch as well. I've got two dogs that I love dearly. It's frightening when someone you love is at risk and you're helpless. I really feel for you.
I grew up in FL, and we weathered many a hurricane, not like they are now, but a real force of nature none the less. When I moved to Jacksonville I watched a huge funnel cloud drop, that's the one that took a lot of Orange Park and Mandarin...oh, like in the late 70's, maybe early 80's. Been a long time ago so it's not a fresh memory. That tornado scared the stuffing out of me like no hurricane ever did.
R-Sticker -
I'm sure most people do not aspire to a trailer park lifestyle but it would be naive to assume that nobody does. Who are you to speak for everyone? Who are you to demand that option be removed? I would contend that the current state of our country and furthermore the world is disintigrating due in large part to misguided good intentions. Also, I don't have an "a jerk", I don't even know what an "a jerk" is and frankly, it doesn't make sense in the context of your post. If your intent was to call me a jerk then might I suggest the use of "you're" so as to negate any confusion. I'm going to go ahead and refrain from getting in a name calling spat with you. The intention of my post was to bring awareness to an issue that is largely ignored and deserves proper consideration.
Alabama can't seem to win for losing with these tornadoes... I've got everything ready so I'm hoping I just hope that I'm over prepared for these storms. Sometimes I dislike living in Alabama *SMH* I pray everyone stays safe and stays weather aware, cause these things don't play...
Some years are pretty quiet, some years we get a lot of storms. I live in a double-wide in central Alabama, so I have an in-ground shelter next to the front porch. It provides some peace of mind- and the dog even likes it. He's really scared of storms in general, but when the tornado sirens start up, he goes straight to the front door and waits for us to head into the shelter.
Hurricanes have done a GOOD JOB on them also
Sweet Home Alabema! On another note, I agree with others, still shell-shocked by all of the thunderstorms (reading about them). I remember a couple of years ago when it was Basketball finals at the GA Dome, no one told those people to get out when a tornado swept thru d'town Atlanta, the people inside didn't even know anything about a tornado until the games were over. Guess money was more important than one's life, but those people were shellshocked I'm sure, with all the glass and debris strewn about d'town Atlanta. On the the other hand, we get plenty of weather news ahead of time, but I've seen where they'll interrupt a program even if it's just raining.
My condolences to all who lost friends, family members to these storms.
Pray that they all will get to the shelter in time and pray that the shelters are strong enough to sustain the storm.
Pray that there will be no deaths.
another genius - pray - i think some of you get prayer and hope confused - hope makes sense, your saying it would great if no one was hurt - pray kind of makes me think that if you pray you believe you can change an outcome ...... like magic.......................... that is insane ..... delusional and insane - just trying to help everyone understand how silly they are - now not being silly and being SMART would have been to listen to the facts and open your eyes and see what is ACTUALLY happening - you know reality - catch up and grow up a little - keep praying and voting republican - its working out nicely for you
Romans 12:12 Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in PRAYER.
One shouldn't underestimate the power in prayer.
Love in Christ and His Peace to all!
fred is an evangelical athiest preaching about nongod their nonchurches operate on thursday and monday
what ? homes, towns are totally destroyed ,lives devastated forever, people dead - more horrific weather on the way - they just keep coming - and it is march - power of prayer - what does that even mean - i think you nut jobs just throw out these phrases without any thought or clue - probably because thats is how you think - IF PRAYER WORKED - would n't the storms stop - or never happen or not have killed anyone in the first place - we actually have people who think like little children in this country living as adults in their own fantasy land - it is mind bobbling ,amazing and scary to watch - the bottom line is not all of us have evolved fully - live in christ and peace to all as a bus gets hurled thru your roof - priceless
what ever - derpy - all i know is that while you guys were praying - a whole town in indiana just got blown off the planet - good job - pray at work - you see pray works for the prayer because you are FORTUNATE enough to be standing - people who were in this storm - im sure some of them prayed or you were praying for them - and right now one of their limbs just landed in new jersey - good job - and by the way dont think your so special because you grabbed sundays ,who cares - i love thurs "big bang theory " 8:00 on CBS - what a dimwit
i never claimed a religion i just claimed you use athiesm as a religion legitimate athiests dont need to preach hence the term evangelical athiest
Fred - My HOPE is that you will quit throwing your judjements & opinions on anyone who chooses, yes chooses, to believe in the power of prayer. It is in fact, a choice, and has nothing at all to do with Democrat or Republican. I think the bottom line is that Americans should come together in a positive manner to help each other in times of disaster no matter where they live and not based on their beliefs.
just wish you wouldn't thrust you religion on US idiot
And the rest of us wish you, (Sticker), wouldn't thrust your crap on us!! If someone wants to pray on here , then they can. It's no skin off your wacker. So, if you want to comment on here, then so can others. Get a grip!
people should keep thier religion/nonreligion to themselves christians have church and athiests dont have a congregational place so they sling it around everywhere but the place you should all keep it is in your head as an opinion
ME -my problem is that the people who choose to believe in the power of prayer are for the most part people who choose who not to believe in climate change - and since they vote by their faith and that vote puts people in power who will do everything they can to dispute climate change I CAN CALL THEM THE IDIOTS THAT THEY ARE - who is going to come together to solve problems the religious fanatics who control the republican party and steer it from an altar - dont think so, they have to go - that is my whole point - they will eventually destroy us all by killing the planet or by a nuclear war take your pick - give them the controls and they will take us there - the bible says so
My problem is that you speak of hope, yet - Quote: "I can call them the idiots that they are" speaks volumes that you have no hope for the human race. You choose to label every person of faith as one who votes republican and one who disputes climate change, but I can tell you that my existence proves you wrong. I am a Christian, have voted both democrat and republican, and believe that there is a human factor involved in the change of this planet's climate. My whole point is that if you speak of hope, have the positive direction to back it up instead of being so closed minded that you rant about the "God-loving idiots" who will send the entire world down the drain. Also, I don't believe it is so hard as we all make it to live in harmony, either by choosing God, hope, or simply a world were humans respect one another. But i guess in this day & age that would be too much to ask. Oh wait...it has really been that way since the beginning of time.
i think hes talking about how weak minded people are tricked into voting republican because they feel if they arent doing so they arent voting right with god but politicians use religion to sway those people politicians are far from religious they are devils in the guise of prophets
This life is full of trials and tribulation-why do we DIE? If this were a perfect world where we could ask and receive from our God on an as needed basis-like going to the ATM-why would we ever die? Prayer is answered in HIS time not ours!
Do you know that the whole town of Henryville was almost destroyed, BUT THE CHURCH remained standing. It is my belief that tornadoes, famine, hurricanes etc are an act of Satan to make people like Fred question the existence of God!
Remember Satan was an Arch Angel cast from Heaven down to Earth! He is around every corner and his sole purpose it take us from GOD! If you read the Bible you know this life will not be perfect and that ultimately we will DIE! Where will you go when you die-is what you need to be living for today on this Earth.
And IF I am wrong-what would be wrong with loving each other and being understanding to each other? To me there is nothing wrong w/LOVE!
And who I VOTE for is between me & God! Thank you.
Love in Christ and His Peace to All!
THE END IS NEAR!!!
I am thinking I am about to endure it because those storms are bearing down on Columbus, OH right now...
I lived there once on pine street, Hamilton Township High School.
Good luck, stay safe.
if you pray hard enough YOU might get hit with your neighbors CAR