Three Occupy Oakland protesters accused of surrounding and taunting a woman before stealing her wallet were charged on Friday with robbery and hate crimes, authorities said.
Michael Davis, 32, Nneka Crawford, 23, and Randolph Wilkins, 24, confronted the woman on the streets of Oakland in February after she told them not to riot, the Oakland Police said in a written release.
According to a report by NBC Bay Area, police said the woman was crossing the street from a Wells Fargo bank when she noticed a group of Occupy protesters calling for a riot. She allegedly told them not to riot in her neighborhood and was then surrounded.
"She was surrounded by three protesters and battered as they yelled vulgar epithets regarding their perception of her sexual orientation," Oakland Police spokeswoman Johnna Watson said.
The female victim was not identified except as a 20-year resident of the neighborhood.
Occupy Oakland: 400 arrested after violent protest
"Her wallet was taken during the crime," Watson said. "The victim broke away from the group and called police, who were able to arrest one suspect near the scene."
Watson said the other two suspects were arrested at a February 29 Occupy Oakland protest.
Each was charged by the Alameda County District Attorney's Office with felony counts of robbery and hate crimes, Watson said.
An Occupy Oakland organizer could not be reached for comment on Friday evening.
PhotoBlog: Occupy protesters target downtown Oakland bank branches
A rallying cry of the movement has been that 1 percent of the population has too much of the nation's wealth and the remaining 99 percent is disadvantaged.
It has lost momentum in recent months after police cleared encampments in New York, Oakland and other major cities.
NBC Bay Area said police were asking anyone with information about the incident to contact the Major Crimes Section at the Oakland Police Department.
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Not good, bro. Now the repubs will call the entire movement 'hate crimes enciting riots.'
Besides, according to Rush, this lady probably deserved it.
Nobody has the right to steal anything from anybody. These 3 should get long terms if they are guilty.
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"Now the repubs will call the entire movement 'hate crimes enciting riots"..... sure why not? The left has labeled the entire Tea Party as racist, rich, white and hateful, all of which are not true.
Heynow.....So those T'bagger marchers were actually rich folks marching carrying their weapons for all to see, holding offensive ignorant placards and voting against their own best interest etc?.... who knew? WOW.... Imagine that....?
Oakland is one big crime. I was working in Fresno a few years ago. When the job was finished, I was given an option to take a project in Oakland or face layoff. I took the latter after being advised by locals of the dangers of living in Oakland.
mattland, you are a mindless liberal twit.
too bad that wasn't your wife or girlfriend, might your comment have been different!!
You are an idiot
Be careful what you report these people are authorized Obama supporters and Eric Holder will try and turn it into a Federal case so he can dismiss the Charges
No BZ, the members of the TEA (Which BTW stands for Taxed Enough Already) are for the most part middle class Americans - you know, the people the President pretends to love so much (as long as they're democrats) - who correctly believe that the federal government has become too big, too inefficient, too ineffective, too corrupt, too bloated and too much already.
I guess if some of these Occupy protesters can not get free handouts from the government, <sarcasm>they will find another way to get money for doing nothing.</sarcasm> These three need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
I am sick to death of the entitlement mentality that is pervading our society. Far too many people think that they are entitled to all the trappings of the American dream without having to work for them. We need to do something to re-instill a strong work ethic in this country. Most of the "1%" worked their butts off to get what they have. While I would hope that they would be generous and help out those who have fallen on hard times through charitable giving, they have no legal obligation to do so. Most wealthy are actually very generous when it comes to charitable giving. Two of the richest men in the country, Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, have made it their personal mission to give away the vast majority of their wealth to worthy causes. They plan on only keeping enough for their children to be comfortable, but not filthy rich. They have also launched a campaign to encourage others like them with great wealth to join their cause and give away most of their wealth. What I fear is that this continued push to try and force these people to share the wealth they earned will have a backlash that will cause these generous people to say screw these lazy bastards and cut back on their giving. The rich have no problem giving to worthy charities, but if they feel their generosity is going to people who are simply lazy, they may take a different view. It is one thing to help out someone who has fallen on hard times through no fault of their own, it is something else entirely to have people who do not want to work for things start demanding you give them some of what you earned.
Ah yes, typical of the hypocritical left wing. They are always crowing about their 'enlightened' policies and 'tolerant views'. But when you don't agree with them or give them what they want, they immediately start spewing hatred and turn to violence. Yeah, model citizens all.
No different than the left calling all republicans baby doctor killers because of one sick person on the religious right went in a doctors church and murdered him. Far too many republicans did NOT criticize the action. I remember many right wingers actually cheering the crime!
She could not have been part of the Tea Party, the article clearly states she was only 20 years old. She is short of the membership requirement for Tea Party status by at least 40 years.
Rush Limbaugh was at OWS?!!!!
Bet these are plants.. The government has been trying to make these people look like they are the wrong doers to divert attention from what the politicians are doing.. Shameful behavior of elected officials and they don't even try to hide it any more..
For the most part the Occupy Movement is a joke. The entire 1% baloney is nonsense. This concept that the 1% has anything to do with our economic issues is without merit. Our economy is in peril because 45%-50% of the people pay nothing. They take and take and take while producing more of the same. The middle class is being squeezed by those they have to support. Do the rich pay there fair share of the taxes? No not always but that is due to the fact our federal government refuses to simplify the tax codes. What could be simpler than a flat tax rate. What if all people that file paid a 20% federal tax. If you made $500,000.00 a year you pay $100,000 if you make $15,000 a year you pay $3,000. No deductions no loop holes this is what you pay. We want jobs to return then the government needs to reduce taxes on business. People need to be paid a fair wage. However does any rational person actually think a man is worth $25.00 an hour hanging license plate brackets? So unions need a reality check. One more thing if you want a movement to matter you can't have 20 year old kids with I-Pods wearing an Abercrombie & Fitch hoody screaming about how tough life is. Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I were ever wealthy I'd leave almost every penny to my children. The way things are in this country today, I wouldn't want them to be part of the 99%. Money gives people a voice, and a massive safety net, and with the current lack of economic mobility they could more than likely never earn it on their own again. I don't get why men as wealthy and powerful as this can just shun the future of their own families , for strangers in Africa or Equador. For me its always been family first.
These people are obviously the dregs of society who only wanted to make trouble rather than get their point across.
As to the first comment on this blog: you, sir, are twisting facts or making them up probably because you don't know the facts and you should be cited for using hate words against Republicans. Hate works both ways sir. It's wrong no matter who says it.
typical POS behavior from this movement...I am sure there are compassionate people as part of this group but when the other movements (tea party, etc) get painted with the same brush so does this one...a double edged sword.
I honestly doubt that a flat tax will ever happen. To the government the complicated tax code is a tool they use to reward supporters and manipulate the behavior of the average citizen. They will not easily give up that power.
Well this pretty much sums up the whole "Occupy" disease all in one little story.
Just when I thought they were at their absolute lowest, they found the bottom and began digging even further. It wasn't good enough for them to just sit around making foolish demands and looking for handouts for nothing. Now they have resorted to armed robbery and stealing. I should be too hard on them as at least this illegal action did require some kind of effort from them. It is the most effort they have put into anything since they noted that it was also a good thing to defecate outside of their own tents.
To most of us, this is what they were all about to begin with and it is a fitting end to their whole legacy.
I think it lost momentum way before that. Stories like this only serve to reinforce the negative stereotype Occupy protesters have been building for themselves for many months.
If this is true!
You lose all credibility when you do things like this.
dave
You need to go back to school. It doesn't say how old she was. It just said how long she lived there. She could be 100 years old by that statement.
Thanks flnobody, I was about to say the same thing. Glad you read the article and understood that sentence.
I put this entire problem at the feet of our President.
People have the right to protest but they don't have the right to prevent other people from going about their daily lives.
I genuinely find it almost comical how so many of the extreme right and extreme left are identical in that they throw tantrums and name call when they don't get their way, they hate having their faults shown, but will rush into the forefront of the argument to point out the faults of the opposition.
Extreme Right- They want the government to get out of the social services game (except for social security, public schools, police/fire services, etc) and want the government out of their personal life (except for enacting their own social controls of no abortion, no rights for gays, etc)
Extreme Left- They want the government to provide more social services (except to those who don't have an open and accepting policy to all, religious services, etc) with no regulation of these services regarding their personal lives (drug testing, accountability, etc).
Might I make a suggestion that those of us able to compromise and behave rationally take the discussions back over and put the children to bed early. They've been up too late watching their respective "news" programs and are unable to think for themselves now.
the Police in concert with a Republican Precinct Chairman who was planted in the crowd to provoke Occupy Wall Street protesters by spitting on them and calling for them to be "shot down like dogs" by the police are now filing false charges against the victims? Well, you should be because this is a typical strategy by government to suppress protests against the economically over-advantaged in this country. Once this story has done it's damage, the lawyers will have already cleared the peace loving protestors and it will suddenly disappear from the news never to be heard from again. Pure propaganda.
Peace loving protesters??? Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha. You so funny!!!!!
Knowing that the main tenant of Occupy is non-violence, These criminals were not a part of Occupy.
The main goals of Occupy is to inform citizens of the extreme inequalities and the two different America's that exist. Pay for the working person has actually declined in the last 30 years, while compensation for the wealthy has risen several thousand percent. This is an injustice that must be dealt with if there is any hope for a truly "just" America. The justice system for the wealthy is not the same justice that the non-wealthy endure everyday. IMO, the simple act of taking all money out of politics would have a very beneficial impact on merging the two (or more) America's that currently exist. Public financing of the electoral process would allow public servants to retain their idealism while ensuring that the politicians who are a part of the process just to become wealthy, would leave the political system. No more lobbyists enriching politicians in any way. I strongly believe that these changes would pay for themselves in no time and allow people who have actual differing viewpoints, to compromise much easier. Also, no revolving door from politics to lucrative lobbying positions.
They did nothing wrong. They simply interviewed the so called victim and proceeded to assist our president in redistribution of wealth. After all, they probably had little or no money and evil regulation by the establishment local governments did not allow them to pursue legal business goals from their parents' basements. What's a poor 99%er to do??????
Just goes to show that there are dunderheads in each party, and those dunderheads get the headlines and the opportunity to label what their side stand for.
Neither extreme is right, and both are just that, extreme.
Just like a 2 year old. But musn't spank. Reason with them. Sure, that will work.
Good one Yeldarb. However, there is one point that I feel compelled to correct you on;
It actually took the Occupy crowd many days and much organizing before they were actually able to figure out that @!$%#ting outside the tent was more desirable. After many city officials forced them to utilize public restroom facilities, their head counts dropped tremendously. Seems that many of the bodies they were counting as actual Occupy members were just large mounds of turd residue. Honest mistake, I too find it hard to see the slight and elusive difference.
Comment # 1 restored for clarity.
And the Billions the bankers stole DO NOT MATTER, since no one has yet been arrested or gone to Jail. But 3 occupiers steal a wallet and it's headline news? The propaganda machine is fully on this non news story.
The propaganda machine you so speak of is the one on your side
Banker add a couple of nut Jobs, Get the media which they own start reporting negatively, have their politicians that are in the pocket start complaining. Bankers win..Shut down our corrupted Federal Reserve get us out of the UN .They are Both Owned as are our Politicians by the Fat Cat Bankers, Rothschild's,Morgan's, and Rockefeller's
They attacked her and stole her wallet. Just because bankers did something doesn't make it right for them to do this.
They should lock all of them up. Get a JOB and A life. Your president encourage this mess. What does that tell you about HIS LEADERSHIP. IT SUCKS
excaliburgc
You said it wright !! The banks have brought in the PRO agitators and are now spinning the story their way. This was expected by most of us. It proves just how low the bankers have sunk. Also the pressure brought on them by O.W.S. is starting to take it's toll on them. Sooner or later the Justice Department will have to step in and go after the bankers.
Heil Obama, Heil Obama, Heil Obama. Learn and adhere to the Obama Doctrine or else
Seriously, now it's a conspiracy enacted by bankers? It's probably the aliens using mind control over the protesters to make them do hate crimes and rob people. And no, they just didn't steal her wallet, they were also yelling at her names that had to do with the way she looked, I'm assuming, because the article didn't say she was there walking hand and hand with another female.
This is exactly what the OWS .0001 percenters are, just a bunch of thieves and bigots.
Not in the 1%
There is a reason no bankers have been arrested. They didn't break the law. The gave loans, some of the practices were shoddy, but they were forced by the govt and CRA to give loans to people who had no business getting them. The problem with bad mortgages lies in the borrower who was to stupid to rtealize the shouldn't be taking the loan.
Lars, I think we have yet to see if some of those bankers broke the law or not. The difficulty is that proving the bankers broke the law is much more complicated than proving that these protesters did.
Not in the 1%, The banks didn't steal it all. Remember, Obama gave them vast amounts along with the car companies.
Uneducated, angry, self-serving AmeriKa: After all this time I would think that you who love the OWS movement would have taken the time to find out exactly what happened to the economy and stop drinking the kool-aid.Not that my post will mean anything since most of you see the 'movement' as a way to get more free stuff from your nanny-government.
The banking laws were changed by Congress, by the Banking Committee (not the real name, look it up) led by Senators Frank, Dodd & Kennedy. The policy was saluted by Pres. Clinton as the way to get the underprivileged into a the American Dream.
This change in the law forced banks to make loans to those who COULD NOT AFFORD THEM. When these loans failed, the banks had already bundled them together (a legal practice still carried out today with many types of loans) and sold as investment portfolios on Wall Street.
So - if you are looking for blame - go OCH: Occupy Capital Hill, not the banks, not even Wall Street who were both doing what they were ordered to do by the G-ment. If you go to OCH, then you can join the Congress in doing nothing and demanding to get everything...
SKEETER
Your post has some Merritt.
But you missed something. The trouble started under pres R.R. B.O.A. wanted to merge with another bank against the rules ( or laws ) of the S.E.C. B.O.A. went ahead with the merger and told congress to bad we did it anyway. Shortly there after congress changed that law, making it legal for different types of banks to merge. As for the housing mess , the banks took out what amounts to an insurance policy betting on those mortgages failing . They got paid very well when the roof fell in. Remember A.I.G. went under as a result of the defaults ( also crime at the top ). That mess was one big money maker for the banks and the government was nice enough to give them a ton of bail out money they really didn't need.
bob
NOT-------, why don't you address the issue at hand, the only thing you folks do well, deflect blame and take other people's money, either lehgally or illegally.
Please tell us why your favorite politicians aren't responsible for the banks getting all that money. The government stole it and gave it to the banks and others. If not for them the banks would have went bankrupt. So go yell at the political (dems) group who ARE responsible!
If this is true!
You lose all credibility when you do things like this.
glock
Is that some more of the right wing selective memory? Bush bailed out the banks.
Not in the 1%
Didn't your mother ever tell you that if little Johnny jumps off a cliff, you aren't supposed to do the same thing?
Occupy started out as a good thing, but it was also used by people like the ones who abused this woman as a cover for illegal acts. We can forget about any bankers going to jail over their misdeeds their buddies in congress will never let that happen.
I don't believe this--it sounds fishy and it also appears that MSNBC has taken its story from the police report.
On one of the many MSNBC pundit programs recently, Jonathan Alter, columnist and Obama supporter, announced that OCCUPY would be discredited soon. He seemed to be quite confident; no one asked him why or any other questions about it.
Its my belief that the Democratic Party, frustrated that OCCUPY won't express undying love for its partisan politics, has decided to torpedo this movement. So desperate to retain power, Democrats will eat their own and their kin, rather than simply do the right thing and stand up for the constituents they represent instead of their donors.
In such a large, country-wide, multi-continent movement, I think it's amazing that one little nonviolent and questionable incident is all that's associated with OCCUPY...and to think it gets written up in the media! These people probably weren't even occupiers and the incident probably isn't what the police are presenting it to be.
This is what you get when the Democrats and their union thugs hire a group to cause trouble(OWS). Most are homeless and criminals looking for a handout. There is no validity to the purported OWS cause. No "one percent" is causing them grief, rather it is their unwillingness to work. I would hate to live in a society in which everyone gets an equal share just because they exist.
Starting with the repeal of Glass-Steagall Act (Banking Act of 1933) under Clinton in 1999, both the Democrats and the GOP have passed a stream of laws which stripped away control and restrictions on the banks. The only way to fix the situation is to put the laws which worked well for over 60+ years back into place.
Fat Cat
I like your comment and will add Don't blame the cliff.
Fools are lucky she didnt wip out a pistol and shot them all.
So two black teens in KC can light a white teen on fire, yelling "this is what you deserve, white boy", and that's not a hate crime, but this is? What a load of crap!
This woman talked herself into a confrontation, she went looking for it. She could have easily walked by, but she had to stop and engage.
This whole extremely subjective use of the hate crime laws pisses me off. A crime is a crime, I don't care what your motive is.
ps: FREE FAT NICK!
it's news because of hypocrisy, just like when the preacher pays for a prostitute or a cop steals from a drug bust.
my sympathies are with the occupy people, but this kind of behavior discredits all occupiers in the eye's of many onlookers and is something the movement cannot afford.
throw the book at 'em.
hey homework, trying to discourage a riot in your OWN neighborhood is not "looking for a confrontation".
I live near the SF bay area and am familiar with the media and the situation. The Oakland police, political establishment and local media are engaging in a campaign of smear, infiltration and persecution of the Occupy Oakland movement because the police, etc. protect, represent and in the case of the media and politicians are funded (political contributions=bribes) by corporations and the 1%.
Anyone, even a petty criminal, can walk up and join a march or demonstration so how do they decide to designate the people who did this as "Occupy protesters"?
The millionaire bankers who the Occupy movement is protesting against did much worse things than steal a wallet or call someone names, they swindled the U.S. and world economy off of a cliff and caused millions of people to lose their homes and jobs.
why haven't they been charged with anything, investigated (seriously) and brought to justice?
Here's some videos highlighting police and right wing groups trying to infiltrate and destroy the Occupy Movement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD5jgBlTXnA
http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/10/09/339788/conservative-infiltrate-99-percent-movement/?mobile=nc
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/12/lapd-undercover-cops-infiltrated-occupy-la-camp-before-raid.html
http://www.observer.com/2011/10/citibank-protester-talks-about-undercover-infiltration-in-occupy-wall-street/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2811086/posts
Well, I guess these three scumbags will have to change their affiliation from OWS to OJS (Occupy Jail House).
While many of the 1% are truly the scum of the earth, not all of them are. The "burn down the barn to get rid of the rats" rhetoric of the OWS movement has already helped to marginalize the movement's legitimacy and the actions of these three fools certainly aren't going to make OWS look any better. It's time for the serious OWS leadership to clean up their house instead of allowing the group to be hijacked by radical elements and criminals.
doyourhomework,america - what on earth are you advocating ? That a citizen cow-tow to those occupiers and surrender their neighborhood to them without a comment ? Who is breaking the law here ? Americans are used to discussing issues,WHICH IS WHY THEY STILL HAVE A DEMOCRACY ! You are confusing this country with a dictatorship, where people have been beaten into keeping their mouths shut. All it takes is for the citizens to surrender. I applaud that young woman for standing up to freedom of speech. The thugs' reaction spoke volumes about their education.
maridanne-
A lone woman confronting a group of yelling, highly agitated men, to argue with them, is looking for a confrontation. If she really thought there was a riot about to happen, she should have called the cops, not gone up and self righteously started in on a "not in my neighborhood" speech. She wanted to create a scene, she did.
Too bad we as taxpayers are gonna have to pay an extra 10 years rent for someone in the Oakland prison system because they called her a dyke as they stole her wallet...
Do your
just like those sexy dresses those girls wear that make those guys want to rape them.
out in the woods-
I'm talking about common sense. If that was my sister, I'd slap her. Many of you commenting do not live in big cities, you walk up on crazy sh*t happening all the time...
I will be the first to help someone if they're in trouble, but the truth in this story is- she wanted to argue, she created this confrontation. She's lucky she only got mugged...
When the American banking system was in trouble, the government bailed it out. When the low and middle income Americans are in trouble, they are on their own. It's happening everywhere in the world, and it's no wonder many systems are on the verge of crumbling. Greed and corruption will one day destroy the current economic system. The wheels of the propaganda machine are turning fullspeed. People are becoming more dependent on government, and that is precisely what government wants. When times get really bad(and they haven't yet), the majority of people will willingly forfeit basic human, religious, and Constitutional rights, such as handgun ownership, in order to keep food in the mouths of their children, and this world will evolve into countries of sheeples that the rich and powerful have envisioned to control. In desperate times, people do desperate things. It is really quite simple. He who controls the money controls the people. Governments control the money supply, and the rich and powerful control the governments. The time has long since past when our government in this country was "Of the people, By the people, and For the people". It takes millions of dollars to run a national political campaign these days, and many of the rich spend their own millions to gain powerful positions in government. Yet, no one ever asks the question as to why someone would spend millions of his own money to become President when the annual salary is only $400,000 a year. The answer should be obvious, but most Americans don't even know what he is paid or why his salary was doubled under the Clinton administration. For that matter, most Americans don't even know what their National, State, or Local politicians are paid or what golden parachutes they have set up for themselves at taxpayer expense.
The real irony is that most people inadvertently advocate ultimate government control and are not even remotely aware of that fact. In this country, people want affordable healthcare, lower gas prices, lower food cost, reasonable housing, lower taxes, and more jobs, but what they receive is just the opposite, and governments are borrowing to keep economies afloat, until such time as the orchestrated collapse is finalized. Years ago, when our currency was based on a solid foundation, gold and silver, the currency had real monetary value, but the odds of that system again becoming a reality are slim to none. Now, our currency isn't worth the paper it is written on thanks to the establishment of the Federal Reserve and National Monetary System which was created under Woodrow Wilson's administration in 1913, and it was only a matter of time before it progressed to the point of insolvency, because when you need more money, you simply print more money, and the value of that money continually decreases until its purchasing power becomes insignificant.
Governments will ultimately convince people that they need a new system to replace the old, archaic system that no longer functions in these international, progressive times. That will be the day when we will all welcome the governmental conception of the International Monetary System and New World Order. Its birth and dominion will be manifest throughout the world, and we will all be governed by its power. Since we are witnessing the conception, the only question that remains is how long it will take before its birth and maturation are witnessed.
no rp, not at all like that...
she engaged them.
don't insinuate I am ok with rape.
Ahh, gotta love that 'peaceful protest.' Kinda like how the original battle cry for OWS came from the Bill Ayers activities in Chicago in the sixties. Remember that? Radical leftists out to destroy the government and country, little anarchists who were all for violence, bloodshed and mayhem and anarchy.
Sadly, what they were and are, for the most part, is a group of losers, 'outcasts' coming from affluent homes, ashamed to be so 'bourgeoise' and wanting a taste of the 'outlaw' life. They are slumming. They are a sham and a pretense. Give them real hardship and they run home to Mummy. The punks in Oakland were common street punks, trash who used the 'movement' as a grand opportunity to steal and trash and bully.
Shades of the sixties. Note that the little sixties protesters grew up, got jobs and raised families. The Bill Ayers types entered academia, politics, made GOBS of money and STILL pretended that they were for the little guy. Hypocrites all and the folks who follow them are also hypocrites. If said followers truly believe the BS they're fed, then they are unfortunate dupes, useful idiots and pawns in a power struggle.
""Now the repubs will call the entire movement 'hate crimes enciting riots"..... sure why not?"
Well, for one thing, it's spelled 'inciting.'
It is stupid people such as these 3 who ruin the message for the majority. Lock um up and teach them the negativity of their acts!
"If that was my sister, I'd slap her." Nice. So people standing up against criminal activity deserve to be slapped. Maybe you don't condone rape, but condoning physical violence against those who are acting completely within their rights against those who are planning to break the law still makes you pretty worthless, in my book.
Hate crime is a lie as a concept.
The hate crime law is based on the left wing concept that only certain groups can be intolerant and hateful. Fits right in with their categorize everyone as something else than simply being called an American. Ironically pejorative they are.
Hey Left Handed. I am with you. Lets get rid of Obama in November 2012.
Sammy, agreed. Obama out in 2012.
...and beyond?
Rather surprising that someone from the Loony Left would honestly state their desire for a dictator.
...of course fascist socialism is to the left of democracy, so we should not be surprised, I guess.
i agree it has a real standard to reach to become a HATE crime.
The police have been pushing homeless career criminals into the encampments and hoping things like this would happen. These weren't "protesters" they were looters trying to start a riot and use it for cover.
Lets see....a group of yahoo's living outside with free food, tents, young women to fondle and perhaps rape, drugs flowing freely.
Exactly WHY would homeless junkies and free loaders need to be pushed into joining them????
hedward; You don't know what the hail you are talking about.
Hey, If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks
like a duck...
The three numbnuts should have stuck to protesting but they now have a chance to protest in jail and court. The victim should be given a chance to smack of them with a ball peen hammer right where it hurts the most. Thirty times each for 5 days straight and just to show compassion, a days rest then repeat the same treatment.
she's lucky she didn't get her a** kicked...
trust me, if and when I have a daughter, I'll be sure to tell her if she sees a bunch of crazy men yelling, put your head down and keep walking, not a good idea to go up and self-righteously argue with them...
It may not have been a good idea, but it didn't give them the right to steal her wallet.
of course not, but if she'd kept her mouth shut, none of this would have happened to her. I'm sure it must be very annoying to have a bunch of yelling deadbeats in your neighborhood, but don't sacrifice common sense just to get in your two cents.
Agreed, she should have called the cops, but they are the ones in the wrong here, not her.
The entire Occupy movement is based on theft and hate. These particular members just happened to be more direct about it.
They happened to be caught.
Avarice, hatred and dehumanization of any who don't share their ideological perspective are the primary tools of the agitators from the left-most wing of the Occupy movement and the Right-most wing of the Tea Party. Arguing that, "somebody with little character believes this, so it must by wrong" is a logical fallacy. I'm sure that there are many men in jail who believe in gravity. That doesn't mean that everybody that believes in gravity belongs in jail. There are some people who might be drawn to the tea party because they have a predisposition to gun violence, and know that they'll go unnoticed at a second amendment rally. That doesn't mean all gun owners want to shoot a congressperson. There are violent opportunists who know they could easily provide cover for whatever they want to hide by inciting either side to start a riot in a politically charged environment. That doesn't mean that all people with political opinions are anxious for a riot to start, and it doesn't mean that they are all violent opportunists.
I take more seriously the opinions of people who give others the same benefit of the doubt that they would expect for themselves.
the occupy movement is based on theft- the theft of the lower and middle classes money by the upper class...
And, apparently, the theft of the middle class by the classless.
what little bit is left of the middle class- thanks big business!
Yeah, missed my point. If she lived in a neighborhood in Oakland, this girl was most likely middle class. But she was still stolen from by these "champions" of the middle class. I'd wager that most people you know are middle class, as most people I know are middle class. It is not "almost gone".
I see nothing in this article that points at hate crime...usually hate crime involves race,sexual preference, etc...
"She was surrounded by three protesters and battered as they yelled vulgar epithets regarding their perception of her sexual orientation,"
aka sexual preference maybe you skipped over that part to comment
Odd that at least one of the guys would have stayed in the vicinity of the supposed incident if they had indeed done as this woman has charged.
Hope she has witnesses because this incident maybe is a little too pat.... what with the surrounding the victim and the battery of the victim and the stealing of the wallet, and to top it off the sexual slur....Hmm Can't get any better than this. The Perfect Trifecta of assault, theft, and sexual slur.
So a twenty something young woman is going to take on 3 males on the sidewalk who supposedly look like the were looking to start a riot? So if these guys looked like they wanted to start a riot why give them cause by even talking to them in the first place?
2 wrongs do not make a right but what was the police trying to cause when they doused people with military grade pepperspray when they were already handcuffed etc? What about the young woman who was being pulled by the hair by the police at that protest in NY for example? Or the vet that was shot/hit in the head resulting in brain damage and now have difficulty speaking etc?
Plus why assume that these guys were a part of the Occupy protest in the first place?
How do the MSM/beltway media know whether the Occupy movement is fizzling out in the first place, just because the protestors are no longer camping in public? This is like the mainsteam/beltway media trying to push the impression that Iran wants to wage war with the USA...where is the proof?
During the 2008 presidential campaign a young woman burnt/branded her face on purpose and then stated it was done to her by a young black male because she was campaigning for McCain/Palin...or something to that effect. Anyway it was later found to be a lie and that she had done this to herself.
If the police was so sure that this incident had occurred, why are they asking for witnesses to the incident to come forward. Shouldn't they have been able to find witnesses at or near the scene of the crime?
Millions of dollars were 'lost' in Afghanistan and no one brought to justice about that.... billions of dollars 'lost' with the tanking of our economy and no one arrested and sent to prison... Homes forclosed on without clear title or deed to same yet no one is arrested to date, but three guys supposedly stole a wallet etc and they are arrested that swiftly? Amazing.... So it depends on how much money was stolen and by whom it would appears....Hmmmm
Oh well.... whats new?
Will hold judgement until the case if fully investigated etc ....
Peace.....
Not too long ago the media jumped to the defense of a certain congressman who claimed
someone from the tea party spat at him and yelled a racial slur as he was
entering the capital building.
Although there was no proof, either in video or personal witness,...and there were
hundreds of people there, the tea part-conservative movement was labeled as
racist and hate-mongrels.
This congressman was ousted as being a liar in everyone's eyes, and a reward was
even offered of over $100k for any witness or video documentation of the event
but nothing ever could be produced. If you offer the same reward in this case,
I'm sure you'd get ample slugs crawling out of the occupy woodwork to bear
witness to the event.
This is the type of mentality infecting the occupy crowd. 'Take everything from
anyone without due regard and with implied entitlement'. I agree there are many
problems with wall street and the like, but that in no way condones violent,
aggressive activity toward innocent people and their communities.
Marker......Actually there was video showing the congressman walking beside the T'demonstrators, then suddenly pulling back from the demonstrators and then wiping the side of his face.... the congressman was interviewed about the incident, and I do not recall anyone outing the congressman as a liar as you state.
First I'm hearing about any reward......
There should be ample video of the placards with the negative, ignorant, racist inferances and drawings etc.
"She was surrounded by three protesters and battered as they yelled vulgar epithets regarding their perception of her sexual orientation," Oakland Police spokeswoman Johnna Watson said.
Thus the basis of the "hate crime"
It is not odd at all, The believe they are above the law , They do not hide their actions, That is their method, They break the law and then defy the authorities to take some type of action.
BZer1, you just pegged the BS meter.
There was/is no video, no witnesses & no evidence.
And the congressman in question was/is just another lapdog of Pelosi.
If one does not stand up for ones self then who will? Most demonstrators of any ilk are obnoxious and boring and tend to have forced views of what they think is ideal. Their only solution is to whine and moan and confront and threaten. Do not like the way banks are run start you own and show us. Do not like investment brokers do not play. Want "good" socialist place to live let me know, I might have a bus ticket to Chavez-land I just might give you.
jabba- don't come crying when you've gotten your a** handed to you.
That girl was a moron. She wanted to argue and yell at someone. If she really thought they were gonna riot, save your breath and go find, I don't know...a cop? What's one girl gonna do against a bunch of angry, yelling men?
She wanted attention and we're giving it to her...
Thank you someoneelsedidmyhomework you have proven my point. Oh, one should really watch making threats veiled or otherwise even on the internet.
Where I come from men do not attack women. Ususally because they have brothers, cousins, uncles and so on who frown upon that kind of thing.
Doesn't hold true for him. He'd slap his own sister for standing up for herself, by his own admission.
Comradechaos, does that make you and those of your ilk are the lapdog of the T'repconligiousright and their doctrine...?
T'wooferated, Limbaughferalated and fauxed....pixilated? LOL
Brilliant...
Does that mean that I have to defend myself every time I go the bank now? I am not in the so called 1% by anymeans. But this does show the mentality of some (notice I said some) of the entitlement generation out there. Just get off of your lazy bums and find a job. I have. Oh I forgot, you can just claim umemployment now for years and not have to work for a living like some of us. By the way try and rob me and I will show you why I have a permit to carry for personal protection.
Ummm, actually you have to have had a JOB FIRST BEFORE you claim unemployment. Unemployment benefits are paid for by businesses. Also, you can't quit, you have to have been laid off. If you were fired for something you did wrong (too many sick days, stealing etc.) then the company can fight it and you won't get any benefits. That's why many companies keep records (write-ups) of employee performance.
Permit to carry,what will you tell someone that has a gun pointed at you,wait until I get my gun out or I have a permit to carry?.
wow- big man, Chuck. You have a gun- ooooooohhhh!
Unemployment is payed by your former employer. If you had a sh*t job, you get squat, if you had a great job, you get the max, which is about a fifth of what your paycheck used to be- try living on that.
I love in this recession how some people's self-righteousness has transcended to a false belief that YOU could never lose YOUR job...
Where does the hate crime part come in?
"She was surrounded by three protesters and battered as they yelled vulgar epithets regarding their perception of her sexual orientation,"
It's only a hate criime if these three were to have done it to a black or mexican, right? You can look cross-eyed at a minority and be charged with a hate crime these days.
...I'm surprised they didn't give the race of the individuals arrested. Interesting. Had it been three white men it would have been plastered all over the media. I think MSN has done a good job only reporting the minimum necessary, and they probably hated to do even that.
I love the hypocracy.
You jack-a$$es can comment on this all you want but deep down you know it's true.
marker, clearly that's not the case here. This was slurs about her sexual preferences, I'm assuming lesbo, dyke, etc.
The hate crime laws are bull@!$%# anyway, way too subjective and open to personal interpretation...
Two black teens in KC lit a white boy on fire, yelling "this is what you get", and that's not a hate crime, but calling someone a dyke as you're stealing her wallet is?
Well I can tell you if someone assults you either they hate you or you did something wrong.
So if i call you a f@g while robbing you, i can be charged with a hate crime? I didn't rob you because your a f@g, i robbed you because i want the money and i'm a douche. The hate crime part just doesn't seem like it belongs. But then again, the report was very vague.
See you did something wrong you put yourself in a postistion to be robbed.
Calling be names would be pointless to me as I really do not give a @!$%# what people think. Never met anyone I could not like. I hav met quite a few that refused to be liked.
If gender is a hate crime, then every crime is. If 3 guys attack me, its a hate crime because they hate other guys o.O
I've already posted it twice read the article please
@Dex Gender is not a hate crime but an attack on one's sexual orientation is.
To me all crimes against other people are hate crimes. You don't commit crimes because you love someone. IMO, even in "crimes of passion", the person committing the crime has an extremely high level of hate.
@Deb - So by your statement, attacks on heterosexuals are hate crimes too. Being heterosexual is also a "sexual orientation". I'm not picking sides here, I'm just saying that the terminology of your argument needs a little work.
@LordPyrinc - yes an attack on a heterosexual person because of their sexual orientation would also be hate crime. There's nothing wrong with Deb's argument.
@nsnash14 - you are absolutely right. It's like the insanity defense for a murderer. If you're a murderer, then obviously you're not right in the head. So insanity shouldn't really be a defense of the crime, but more of an admission of guilt.
The correct terminology for the crime is bias crime or bias intimidation crime, It is when a crime is committed against someone based on race,gender,sexual preference,religion other than that of the attacker, The shortened version of calling it a hate crime is misleading.
@Deb apologetically - I stand corrected. It is my interpretation of your statement that needs a little work.
Hate crime laws are bull@!$%#!
But Occupiers are strictly there to (not) affect how Wall Street operates. Occupiers don't ransack property, or harrass children. They don't rape, rob or intimidate. They don't block traffic or business of the 99% that they (don't) represent.
Occupiers, if you dont love this country leave it! Who is going to hold your hand And who are you going to cry to if you are successful in breaking the system? Do you realize you all are puppets . Grow up get a job and quit crying take care of yourself and your family oh wait thats what you expect the system to do for you. The same system you want to collapse what idiots.
What a shock here..
Oakland California ? Hate crime ? What did they do, accuse her of being straight ?
That's a good one!!!!!!!!!
I think you're onto something
Can be no such thing as a "Hate Crime" in liberal Oakland. Hate and deceit is in the DNA of liberals and therefore can't be used against them. We can only pray that a higher power will one day clear their clouded minds and lead them to a more happy and productive life. (I was a liberal in my younger days)
Some frenchman said, "If you are a not a liberal by the age of twenty, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative by the age of thirty, you have no head." I voted for jfk and lbj, my apologies.
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This doesn't come as a surprise. The occupiers have left a path of theft, injury,and destruction in their wake. I'm a member of the 99% and these idiots do not represent me in the least.
@dale fincher: hahahahahahahahaha. short, quick, and delivers a funny punch.
Straight out of comrade obama's manifesto, wait until it warms up enough for his ows/seiu idiots to hit the streets???
I see why there are so many moronic comments especially on the left on issues such as this. They don't read or can't read then come to a stupid conclusion based on a headline...no wonder this country is in such trouble.
Surprised that this one made it past the censors at MSN/DNC. I'm sure there will be a thug call from the White House sometime today.
No surpirse on two counts. Liberals are the haters. And they are always looking free money. These are the REAL occcupiers.
guess the hand outs weren't coming so they took matters into their own hands
A fact you won't hear in the corporate media: This woman went over to occupiers calling them the N-word.
Unless you were there as an eye witness then share the link with us.
$100,000 reward if a video can be produced or eyewitness account. Did she spit on the occupiers? LOL
Thank you Comrade Alinsky! This was in the Mainstream Media, if they could have found a leftist spin point they would have used it!
If she would have used the 'N' word jose. NBC would have said she did.
the Police in concert with a Republican Precinct Chairman who was planted in the crowd to provoke Occupy Wall Street protesters by spitting on them and calling for them to be "shot down like dogs" by the police are now filing false charges against the victims? Well, you should be because this is a typical strategy by government to suppress protests against the economically over-advantaged in this country. Once this story has done it's damage, the lawyers will have already cleared the peace loving protesters and it will suddenly disappear from the news never to be heard from again. Pure propaganda.
hope so- hope they have decent representation because hate crimes put you away for a long time.
These were not Occupiers, but street thugs, possibly anarchists who leech face time from a legitimate movement. Much like mini Rush Limbaughs who use the media to exploit gullible viewers with violent words instead of violent deeds.
The difference being I can either change the radio station so I do not have to listen to Limbaugh or turn it off completely, However being robbed is a little more difficult.
They are members of your movement, The may not be representative of your movement but they are part of it, Just like you are part of the 99% you are not representative of it.
I prefer to consider myself part of the 100% of this country and not demonize a specific group simply because I am jealous of their wealth.
Nice try comrade, but no takers!
Can we get a translation of this, most us don't speak dem mush mouth
Bong--the Occupiers are pro Democrat and Rush is pro Republican--your comment is irrelevant.
Ok these three deserve everything they get, but to tie it to the OCCUPY movement is a attempt to discredit and silence a group of politically motivated individuals that the Republicans do not agree with. Let us not forget the attacks by the tea party on people at their demonstrations and events, such as the woman knocked down and assaulted in NY.