These fellows are going to be in some big trouble with someone's cartel. Bye bye boys.

Whats wrong with diversifying your investments?

BUT... did they find the missing iPads?

Ok, I am all for the border control and slowing down the illegal alien invasion but WHERE in this article did you see that they were illegal aliens. I missed that part.

And come on..... everyone knows that Meth is the drug of choice of WHITE trailer trash. Throw in a couple of mexicans here and there but they are born in the US. Meth is an American made product. Let's here it for homegrown! The "made in the USA" label. We don't import "everything".

And I don't think they found any Ipads, but I think I heard that they found hundreds of 'etch-a-sketch' pads which the druggies might or might not have thought were Ipads. Who knows?

Wow these guys will be candidates for the Darwin award and should find their way to America's dumbest coming to a station near you.

The cops fabricated the stolen iPad as the lead. The real lead was the infiltration of the illegal drug group through informants whom the cops don't want exposed as other possible leads are still pending.

Sonar Guy writes: "End birthright citizenship when neither parent is a legal U.S. citizen"

I have a better one for you.

"End birthright citizenship for all non-Native Americas"

Sonar Guy writes: "Execute all drug dealers and traffickers"

and in the next line he writes:

"Legalize 3 mature marijuanna plants per household"

Im sure the DEA would hire you if only you applied for a job, since they go bust people for drugs then go celebrate their achievements at the local bar with a few drinks and a cigarette.

Houstonite

You need to do some research. This amount of meth is made in Mexico's super-labs by the cartel and smuggled into the U.S. 750lbs was not produced here in the States. What they busted was a conversion lab.

The DEA will confiscate repackage and sell elsewhere so they can buy more war toys .

You can bet on it .

Next thing you know some liberal CA judge will throw the whole thing out because the search warrant only allowed the police to look for iPads, not drugs. Something does smells fishy about this search though, with the statement "The DEA was called in and a state search warrant was issued." If the initial search for the iPads was on the up and up and the discovery of the drugs was made during a legitimate search for the iPads, there should have been no need to get another search warrant. The fact that there is no mention of them actually finding the iPads also makes me suspicious. It would not be the first time that police fudged things on the application for a search warrant. They claim they are looking for one thing when they are really looking for something entirely different but do not have probable cause to search for what they are really after. In any case, these drugs will not make it on the street. Also, the guys responsible are probably safer in prison than on the street at this point. I am sure their bosses are not too happy with them losing $34 million in product, particularly if it was because they called attention to themselves by stealing things they could have just as easily purchased with proceeds from the drugs. I guess we are just lucky that some criminals are monumentally stupid or these drugs would have made it onto the streets.

Frank.....All individuals born on the American continent is a "native American", I think you meant to say aboriginal american? Regardless your attempted comment is mote, there was no country or sense of nationality before the founding of the Republic so the issue of citizenship dates from that time forward. YES end the idiocy of citizenship when parents are foreign nationals (not even taking into consideration them being illegal aliens).

Very valid point on the drug thing. With all the problems with just legal drugs why would any rational person want to add more to the mix. Anyone who thinks marijuana is a harmless benign drug has never tried to hold a rational conversation with a habitual user (whether that individual is stoned at the time or not).

@JS in SD Your first sentence disqualifies you from being taken seriously. Why would a liberal judge tolerate meth dealing? Being liberal doesn't mean you act or have the morals of San Diego's finest, Randy Duke.

hey john s you better start paying attention to news shows. there are plenty illegals breaking all kinds of laws of this country. the first being entering the country illegally. And drugs are among a hole list of laws they're breaking, including forming gangs, one being m13, or haven hold of them.

Sonar guy's post, and # of 'thumbs up' illustrates the seductiveness of proposing simple, sweeping solutions to complex problems.

Whenever really poor people have a baby, the taxpayers end up on the hook regardless-why the hate for immigrants? The Obama healthcare plan covering contraception to poor women will do far more to solve this welfare cost concern than your anti-immigrant constitutional amendment.

Consider the risk of violent death and lifetime imprisonment drug traffickers already face, and then ask yourself how irrelevant further draconian punishment for traffickers is.

Finally, if you consider yourself an economic conservative, then you understand that the war on drugs is a "self-licking ice cream cone" for law enforcement budgets and grandstanding politicians, and only incentivises more young people to trade in illegal drugs.

When the pharma companies don't produce enough adderal this is what happens.

@relaxdontdoit :

TY for placing some perspective on this thread of blubbering, chest beating, knee jerk, nonsense.

Steveorevo-823171 - I guess you have never heard of sarcasm. If you bothered to read past the first sentence you would see from the second that I am being sarcastic, although there have been many times that ACLU member judges threw out a search on a meaningless technicality.

Why are certain posts collapsed by the community? Doesn't free speech apply to these posters? Although you might not agree with them, they have the right to post, seeing they aren't threatening anybody...Never understood this practice by MSNBC.. Dip@!$%#z!!

When you start breaking more than one law at a time, the odds of getting caught go way up.

I agree with the post that the ipads or pods or whatever was just smoke to get probable cause to do the bust. Or am I crazy to think that the police sometimes "fabricate the truth to achieve what they think is the greater good" if they knew there was that much product sitting somewhere they would do the bust just to confiscate the product even if the bust doesn't stick. In this case I just may have to agree with that I mean afterall Meth is not a fun drug!!!!!

Boffer, your understanding of free speech protection is woefully flawed.

Only in Cali.....this should be on TV's Dumbest Crooks with a highlight of San Jose.....

BTW where is San Jose?

boffer......Haven't you noticed ? The collapsed comment doesn't meet their standards, sorta like giving the 5th during a Congressional hearing.

The Obama healthcare plan covering contraception to poor women will do far more to solve this welfare cost concern than your anti-immigrant constitutional amendment.

OH BS. Poor woman already have access to free contraception. It is covered thru Medicaid. Any anyone not covered by Medicaid and poor can get it free at PP or any number of community clinics that don't charge or at worst charge very little for it. It's available cheaply at Walmart. Some generic brands are as low as $5-6 a month! The problem is these women/girls don't WANT TO USE IT. They want to have babies.

Why would anyone in their right mind steal an Ipad?? They like every wireless device that seeks a WAN or cell connection like Net Books and Cell Phones are basically lo-jacked and can be found as soon as someone turns them on.. Great way to trick someone stupid into carrying a tracking device.. Hope they can repeat this many more times in the next few weeks.. White trash around here used to snort or shoot Oxycontin but smoking Crack and Meth. are getting all the business these days.. In the past 3 years out here in Gods country they have busted several Meth. labs and they think a couple have burned down after explosions.. The other homes were so contaminated that they were torn or burnt down.. The majority of the people caught were Mexicans with a sprinkling of white trash.. We had a house that was busted for growing and after the county auctioned off the house to a house flipper he sold it to a family that set up a grow as well.. Got to love stupid..................

Jac -

You're wrong (1.27)

I thought Wal-Mart had generic BCPs (birth control pills) but they don't.

And here's proof from their latest list as of 3/2/2012 ... http://i.walmartimages.com/i/if/hmp/fusion/customer_list.pdf

(and no, this is not an ad for Wal-Mart, it is just showing the source.)

Oh the irony that Americans cry about illegal immigration when we defined it... Hahahaha hypocrisy knows no bounds, this is why it pays off to listen to that boring History teacher.

Dennis-387683: Have you ever considered the possibility that your inability to hold a rational conversation with a cannabis user derives from the fact that their minds have been expanded while your pitiful IQ and invulnerable ignorance makes you incapable of achieving such a level of enlightenment? Also, the term "aboriginal american" while possibly a better choice, is not part of the established nomenclature, so you are obviously being intentionally rascist by insisting someone abjure the most frequently used and previously established terminology.

What was illegal about the way our ancestors came over? Most came right past the Statue of Liberty and checked legally. Those that came earlier were breaking what laws?????? Chief Hiawatha had an immigration law?

relaxdontdoit: "Self licking ice cream cone" ! Great expression! I'm stealing it. So accurate...the prison industrial complex is a mode of racial/economic oppression as well as welfare for pigs.

YES end the idiocy of citizenship when parents are foreign nationals (not even taking into consideration them being illegal aliens).

So you want to amend the constitution except for the parts you really really like? Or did you not know that citizenship requirements were spelled out in the constitution? Or are you just calling the founding fathers idiots?

So THIS is why the bandwidth is so overloaded...

Tweakers on iPads! Just great.

US. Meth is an American made product

Yay!!! US manufacturing is making a comeback!!!

lolfattynerdswhoknew-

Take a history class sometime. The Citizenship Clause was not a part of the constitution until the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified after the Civil War and was intended only to give all former slaves and their children citizenship (as an alternative to the previous Civil Rights Act of 1866, whose constitutionality had been called into question). At that time, illegal immigration into the US was not a problem, considering that Americans were the ones expanding west. The people who ratified the Fourteenth could not have possibly imagined that their descendants would allow such huge amounts of illegal immigration. Keep in mind that at that time you could shoot anyone caught trespassing on your property, especially if you lived in a frontier region.

So basically, no, nobody was calling the founding fathers idiots. Changes to the Constitution are standard procedure as new issues and changing circumstances arise. If we didn't allow changes to the Constitution, we would never be able to progress and move forward. The ability of people to easily move between countries is a relatively new development that has huge implications for access to citizenship, and therefore the section of the Constitution regarding citizenship should be revised to reflect such a change.

There are some ways that we could make this a non-issue, however. One is to have a much stricter border policy - a small buffer zone where anyone entering without authorization from a foreign country is shot on sight. This would also serve to stem the flow of foreign-produced drugs into the country - all of the meth siezed in this article almost certainly came from Mexico. Another way to reduce the numbers of so-called "anchor babies" would be to interpret the law correctly - foreigners in this country who commit a crime are to be deported immediately and will not be given any of the benefits of an American citizen (except a room in the county jail until their flight or drive home).

That's a lot of words to address the most minor part of my point.

"There are some ways that we could make this a non-issue, however. One is to have a much stricter border policy - a small buffer zone where anyone entering without authorization from a foreign country is shot on sight."

So you want to turn America into a xenophobic police state? Why don't we just call ourselves North Korea mk. II.

Changes to the Constitution are standard procedure as new issues and changing circumstances arise.

The constitution has been amended 27 times in 200 years. It is not a "standard procedure" by any reasonable definition.

all of the meth siezed in this article almost certainly came from Mexico.

Baseless assumption.

The police found the meth looking for stolen ipads. Now the DEA will find the stolen ipads looking for the meth.

Makes sense these days.

I don't think the stealing of phones was a sign of how 'miserly' they were. They most likely cannot risk getting a phone in their own names (DUH!!), and are looking for a phone they can use for a couple/few hours, and then simply toss.

of course it came from mexico. You can no longer buy the ingredients at walmart or walgreens anymore, other than one or two boxes at a time by giving your ID. do you people really think 750 lbs were made buying two boxes of psuedofed at a time, houstonite? and justified defiance..you can send the thank you letter for Obama being elected to your buddy "the dumbest president ever" W Bush. the border wars are for/because of the meth trade, it's huge. So big that the cocaine cartels are having to find other routes, so they are screwing up the neighboring countries like honduras, shipping the coke through there. close the borders or we are screwed! Vote Ron Paul.

Easy solution to the immigration problem: Put the people who exploit illegal labor in the US in prison for a long time. Once that starts you can bet the illegal hiring practices (and thus the lure for immigrants) will immediately end. Politicians just want you to create another "Self licking ice cream cone" (Thanks relaxdontdoit for the expression!) which creates an unsolvable problem about which they can enrage voters and generate another tax revenue-based source of income for increasing the already oppressive police state in this country.

As for drugs, the politicians know exactly what they are doing in the self-licking ice cream cone dept. They like it that addicts don't get help until it's too late thanks both to the social stigma, and the very real chance of finding themselves charged with a crime. They know how prohibition has destroyed millions of lives, families ad neighborhoods, and been used as a tool of racisim and greed to destroy the african american community in this country. (did you know we arrest blacks for drugs at a rate ten times higher than whites, despite all studies showing that the two groups have about the same rate of addiction?) They intentionally wish to feed those corrupt structures that profit from American misery, the police and federal forces who maintain their budgets by profitting from the seizures of those americans they enslave in privately run for profit prisons. Finally, last but not least..there's those poor ignorant people in groups like this one, who've been fed so many lies that they believe it's really for the best that we lock up a higher percentage of our children than any other country on earth, including China. Otherwise they'd have long ago thrown this failed policy on the trash heap of history, and end the war of terror they have conducted against american citizens.

One word for the residents of "4400 block of The Woods Drive"

DOH!!!

For one thing, this is not Darwinism. Darwinism would be if these clowns were killed defending their meth and had no children. This article didn't mention if they had children but they weren't killed. The term "Darwinism", has become the most over-used term I have ever seen. Every stupid act doesn't automatically become Darwinism, some people are moronic yet their genes will go on thanks to accidental pregnancy.

They are referring to the Darwin Awards.... not the actual Darwin.

Yeah that's great Elduderino, cost the taxpayers so much cash (ontop of mandatory drug sentencing) they'll be forced into looking for that cheaper labor if anything, oops guess what that's gone too haha, guess we'll have to stick to the white guy who because he knows he was born here in comparison to the illegals feeds his own self-worth beyond minimum wage...

The "War on Drugs" has been a multi-billion dollar failure because it fails to address the cause of the problem...abuse of and addiction to drugs. Drug use is treated as a joke, a right of passage, an act of rebellion...anything but the dangerous thing is actually is. Nicotine is the most addictive substance known to man, but tobacco products are legal. Alcohol is the most widely abused drug and far more dangerous and self-destructive to users than marijuana, but it's legal. Heck, the best commercials on TV are beer commercials, which only makes its use more attractive.

To truly stop the illicit drug trade, our society has to change the way we treat addicts as well as change our mentality about drug use. Help for those with addictions has to become more affordable and accessible. We need to better promote sobriety - especially responsible use of alcohol - rather than expand prohibition (which has never worked in this country to begin with) or stiffening penalties to ludicrous levels. Getting more time for smoking a joint than beating, carjacking, or shooting someone is absolutely ridiculous. As far as that goes, legalize marijuana and then tax it the same as tobacco and alcohol...and use the revenues to fund substance abuse treatment programs.

Well said Allison Shaw. I definitely would vote for you if you ran for office. Everything is backwards in the public's understanding. Heck American Pharmaceuticals are the biggest drug dealers of all. I lost a student to an overdose of Xanax and I myself was poisoned recently with adderral which is pharmaceutical amphetemines. I agree the war on drugs needs to change to the war on drug addiction and what needs to be addressed is our national addiction to pleasure

Dennis - you are a true American, stupidity and ignorance never gets in the way of you having an opinion.

there was no country or sense of nationality before the founding of the Republic

Houstonite

Meth may have been invented in America but like everything else we now import it from Mexico. What started out as a trailer trash drug is now rampant in the cities. Mexican cartels are just doing what they do and that is getting the drugs in the USA. It is a miracle they(the police) stumbled upon it.

Sorry Burning, Meth was "invented" in Nazi Germany. The German soldiers were given meth during WWII to keep them awake and alert during combat.

They aren't... you just tend to hear about the stupid ones. The vast majority of crime is never discovered and perpetrated by average individuals.

These guys had to be smoking their own stuff! Going around stealing Ipads with $34,000,000 in Meth back at the house. Yes in deed, Meth does give brain damage!

"Dude, lets steal some pads....man!!"

Unfortunately John, though it is sometimes true, that is really not the case most of the time. Greedy maybe, but not stupid. Entirely too many criminals are intelligent enough to pull off the lifestyle for a long period of time without ever being caught. The way everyone works together in the network, with the smarts and ability to avoid exposure, is what makes it a huge success and an even bigger problem for the rest of the world.

Apple products are gateways to Meth.

LOL

And I'd bet powdered cocaine flow freely for employees throughout Apple.

LSD (Steve Jobs favorite) is the gateway drug that lead to Apple that leads to Meth.

Steve Jobs was proof that you can recreate and create. Steve Jobs was a real JOB creator. Unlike that GOP Congressional Representitive with the dozens of Subway sandwich shops I saw flapping his gums on TV. Do the math $80K a year working for Apple versus $8 dollars a hour working at Subway!

Englishlass, Fox News is calling you.

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Are you certain?

Yeah man I'm pretty sure, ffhhhf cough ffhhhf cough. I think he went to the store for some munchies.

Man I can't believe what this country has turned into these days. Imagine that the cops broke into these people's house and just stole their stuff. This is what happens when the white guys makes the rules!

That's because the police in your city would have a hard time finding a Jew in a synagogue.

Do we have to drag Jews into this? How about saying the CA police and courts could not convict a cat in a canary cage with feathers sticking out it's mouth?

So does marijuana and alcohol and any other mind altering substance. alcohol has common use traditions dating back to the very first attempts at civilization and will never be able to eliminate, not so with other drugs.

What a panzy. You sound like you could use a toke and a drink and chill out.

Actually weed has been in use for 10,000 years

Dennis, people invented alcohol because drinking water could be fatal in the pre-sanitation days. Even right up to recently here in America. President Zachary Taylor died of a form of cholera and Abraham Lincoln's son died of typhoid from drinking from the water supply in the White House. Unclean water carries typhoid, cholera etc etc etc. People did not have a understanding of bacteria and microbes causing disease. Most other mind altering substances have a history that goes back to man's attempts to speak with the gods.

Even someone had wine at the LAST supper..Guess who.....

sleeping beauty and the seven dwarfs??

SHHH, see now you guys did it; Dennis wasn't suppose to know, it was a secret until now.

Ok Dennis we didn't want to break the news to you so fast and I'm hoping this doesn't change your opinion about well you know evolution. There seems to have been a flaw in the weed department, some found out that you could smoke it and feel kind of good inside and it's been a thorn in the community ever since.

whatever it takes, tshanny, to get that crap off the street.

TSHANNY is right, that is how it works. It's all a set up. But do they even need to do that anymore with the patriot act. Didn't that make getting warrants needles in most cases?

"Crack is wack"... Whitney Houston.

It sounds like you may know a little too much about that stuff ....

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jealous?

There definitely is a double standard, but rich people doing blow don't commit the type of crimes desperate, addicted, poor crack and meth addicts do. Cops usually have more to worry about than some rich kid giving himself an enlarged heart from doing too much cocaine.

because the so called beautiful people like it...ty...

You are a racist.

your not saying that the War on Drugs is racist are you hahahahahahahahahahah wow I never could have seen that. By the way how are we still the home of the free with 2 million in the joint???????????????????

Do your homework doyourhomework,America. Those rich coke heads already have way to high self images and no contience. They follow the ancient despot trail into political seats like daddy and steal Trillions of dollars from us peon sheep. Do you not understand why they have not prosecuted or even initiated an investigation into who should be held responcible for the financing debaucle that has us slipping over the edge of the abyss? Because the overlords who are responcible for setting said investigation in motion are the same people who proffited from the scheme. Then give them selve billions more by bailing out the financial institutions that they used to rape you, me, and every other member of our subhuman herd. (the real good people, the heart and soul of this country). It truelly frustrates me to see people put down one side or the other in the political arena, and wonder if they are actually low IQ'd enough to believe the Big Headed Monsters they are supporting really have any intention of doing a darn thing to put this country back on the right track. Both partys are in on it there is no two party system any longer. Only the Oilybankicratican party. The Oilican and Bankacrat parties have combined. Don't you think it's strange that No Oilican Congressman is attacking Obamas now proven forged birth certificate? They are all bound in by fear of being taken down with him due to their common thievery and need to satisfy their addiction which I now wish to name since no psychiatric pro has had the gonzos to identify as a true mental illness. Kinda torn though. You think Greedsanity or psycanevergetenoughic works better. Come to reallity people. They don't even see us as people. But why complain. Whats wrong with stealing from sheep. Better start thinking about what life will be like for our offspring if they are not of the obnoxiously rich overlord clan in a few generations if we don't nip it in the bud now. And the actual point? These freaks already have no empathy, contience, and have no qualms about destroying any of us REAL humans that get in their way by psudo legal means, or just outright having us disappear. Cocain is only going to drive that sence of entitlement and selfworth higher.Watch Inside Job. It's not a political hogwash by some porky brainwashed idiot. What they are doing to this country and us is unfathomable. We are running out of time. Get a clue political wierdoes. None are there for anything but themselves.

Good point!!

speaking of whitney, she's coming up on four weeks clean and sober this saturday!

ctviking, I agree, sell the meth, after it is injected with a fast acting poison. Solves a lot of problems, especially cutting the consumer demand for it.

sally- no need to promote mass murder, meth is a fast-acting poison. Anyone addicted to meth is already dying...

same place they get 2% inflation!!!...from another planet!!!...please...ty...

I wonder if Jesse is behind this one? And I guess now we know what Walt has been doing since he took down the cartel!

Walt is probably dead from the cancer he has......It is NM.....

But weren't these guys meth MAKERS, though. And considering the number fortunes made in this country on the backs of illegal or immoral enterprises (Hell, wasn't Kennedy's daddy a bootlegger?) these guys are practically freaking JOB CREATORS.

History is always written by the victors.

It's the same math that Coke and Pepsi use to get you to buy a 20 oz. bottle of product for $1.60 when you can have a 2-liter bottle of the same product for $2.

By selling the meth by the half- or quarter-gram, you can make close to the figure stated, but I do agree the "street price" always seems overly-inflated.

yeah, they do always use the highest dollar amount technically possible...

as in, assuming that whole 750 pounds was going to be cut up into $20 bags...

LMAO!! I love you guys!!

Amen, brother. It's the American way!

Does meth in Mexico make for a leaner/beaner?

You betcha!