His father, Juan Garcia, 47, and girlfriends, Sandra Jaimez, 45, and Cynthia Limas, 25, were charged with unemployment fraud, the Times reported.

Garcia's tattoo spans his chest and bears the words, "RIVERA KILLS" above a liquor store lined with Christmas lights. There, John Juarez, 23, was gunned down. Rivera is a reference to the gang, Rivera-13.

Ahhhh, a gang member having his family and "girlfriends" cashing unemployment checks. I wonder if the checks came from California or Federal coffers ? If Federal, this guy should be sent to FEDERAL court, then to a California court.

Wait, what about his father and "girlfriends" ? Have they been screeneed for citizenship status ?

I also wonder if this guy filed for an IRS Refund ? Might was well since other inmates do it.

Might as well "kill" two birds with one stone......jail.....then deportation IF you get out of jail.

No wonder California is BROKE......(repeat)

I'm sure these types of crimes occur in other states. Maybe California is more lax in keeping records than the other 49 states. Based upon this story, there's no way to know.

Must be freaking illegals in that nest somewhere, DEPORT THE SCUM !!!!

I am not understanding the issue, he was incarcerated. How else was he to cash his check if he couldn't go to the local check cashing joint? And, Johnny N., he's likely a US citizen, where would they deport him to? The city he already lives in?

that's convenient how California takes your unemployment insurance payments (money paid by your former employer, rightfully yours) when you get thrown in prison. As long as he's working in prison, he should definitely get the balance at the end of every week...

yeah, that'll happen...

JohnSixty,

To be eligible for unemployment you have to be available and actively seeking work, in that light the inmate is an accomplice to the fraud crime since he recieved money from the cashed checks. California authorities may figure it out eventually

"That's California for you...." Who cares? I would think the employer was in on it, all they would have had to do was tell the EDD the guy was not at work because he's in jail. As in any state, you pretty much collect if the employer doesn't object. Since the checks weren't mailed to the jail. Also, what state isn't broke? Becuase the Stae is broke, alot of people who could have been employed looking into these things aren't.

Amen Brother

Ellis and I agree:

In many well run states (which apparently excludes CA) you need to periodically show up at the unemployment office and show effort in finding work....................apparently not in this state that is bankrupt because of its generous handouts.

I am curious what he did to get 30k at 1600 a month and never had to go into the office to reapply? I was on UI for 6 monthes and had to go in 3 times...

Everytime I read about scams like this it makes me shake my head at the idea of these fools running our health care.

These are of the same 'ilk' that we're supposed to let vote without ID??? Ya, right....

OBXRon.... Unemployed persons in California haven't had to periodically show up at the unemployment office for at least 20 years. However, you need to be ready and able to show up for work, which I somehow don't think that Mr. Garcia was able to do. Unless this has changed, in order to continue unemployment you need to call into a call center and enter your unemployment information. And I would like to know what type of job Mr. Garcia held that he was able to collect $1600.00 per month.

doyourhomework,America! you are joking right? When you file your weekly claims it clearly asks if you are availbnle to work - someone sitting in prison is not available to work so his girlfriends that called the claims in or filed them online all committed fraud.

And SusieCue - why would you ask what kind of job he had? 1600 a month is 400 a week - so what? Unemployment is based on your wages when you did work. Alot of people that have decent paying jobs would qualify for the highest payouts plus Cali might give extra amounts for any dependents one has. Either way this guy and all involved should be convicted of fraud

Wow!! $1600 a month in unemployment in checks adding up to $30,000. How long can you be on unemployment in Cali and he must have been pretty well paid in whatever he was laid off from when he wasn't gang banging. A lot of people don't make that working for a living.

Murdering crook, hang him and cut off a couple of each of check cashers fingers that'll teach them. Then deport them if they are illegal. If not they can stay but can never collect unemployment or any type of assistance again...... My suggestions to the Judge and Jury.

This article shows 2 of the many reasons NOT to live in california: the state is infested with gangs (especially LA area) and they are bankrupt, with no intention to be more fiscally responsible.

In the immortal words of Jeff Foxworthy; "there ain't no cure for stupid".

The investigation took 1-1/2 YEARS to complete - 18 months at $1,600/mo.?! Why does the government move SO SLOW? There is ZERO reason for a fraud investigation to take that long.

Again I say, there should be an IQ requirement to be employed/elected to a government job/office. If you cannot pass the IQ test, you cannot have the job. Bet things would move a lot more quickly if intelligent people were working for us.

I do not understand the man is in jail AWAITING his trial, he has NOT been convicted of anything, so why should he lose out on his unemployment? Would he be eligible for back pay if he is NOT convicted? I guess since he has been accused that makes him guilty, right? All the nasty remarks about "illegals in his nest", etc. ........... Do do you all think you are "Judge Judy, Judge Mental or what??? You probably had more empathy for that p.o.s. in Florida who got away with killing her daughter...

You sound like the people who put ALL the Asian-Americans (not just Japanese) in concentration camps here in the U.S. during WWII. Yes, I meant concentration camps, what else would you call a place where innocent people are sent because of their ancestry? Those places sure weren't resorts and many innocent Asian-Americans were murdered and NO ONE was tried or cared, except their loved ones.

Dumbasses who are saying "Deport them!"... deport them where - these are American citizens, in American gangs. If the guy had a tattoo saying Rivera Matas, rather than Rivera Kills... in English... then you might be able to start race baiting. But unfortunately for the less intelligent racists on these boards, the fact that they're collecting unemployment, are in established American gangs, and are speaking English don't lend themselves to being illegal immigrants. Not everyone who's brown is illegal... idiots.

'Deport them' is correct even if they are citizens if it means deporting them to jail

Criminals get more rights day by day and Victims become Victims by The Criminals and The System.

Why are there so many Gang Bangers and Druggies in our society. Punishment for the crimes are too leinient in the Good ole USA !

Solution to problem: DEATH to people who Gang Bang and Kill or Use & Deal Drugs... It would clean up the problem on the streets and clear our prisons and would help protect our borders...

Another upstanding citizen? Yeah, up and standing in front of a firing squad.

Why is he alive?

NO BJ, I mean JB, WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK !!!! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2012 for the start !!!

Johnny, are you racist?

RonaldG,

Do you have any facts to back up that statement? Go ahead, enlighten us, troll.

RonaldG, as easy as it is to shoot you down, I would like to leave you with this thought. What U.S. President inherited the greatest economy in American history to leave it 8 years later as the second worst economy in American history? What U.S. President inherited the very worst economy in American history and was re-elected three times because he brought such prosperity and promise to a once impoverished nation?

In both instances, it was a Democratic President that led us out the misery visited on us by his Republican predecessor. These are not partisan claims. They are merely historic facts.

nice to repeat lies over and over again eh commonsense101? bush took office in a recession, any surplus you might think existed was only a budget surplus which really means nothing and clinton did nothing to improve the economic boom he was handed to by bush 41, instead he ruined it and when the repubs took control they forced a balanced budget (fake as it is) with crap cuts that was all smoke and mirrors, and thats where the budget surplus came from (mainly DoD cuts).

obama didnt inherit the worst economy in history as many want to blindly believe, the government created the whole mess in the first place so they can pass more laws and do what they do best. the bubble was seen for over a decade from the last housing bubble pop in the 90's, so why are we acting surprised at something obvious? obama got elected based on his color and party affiliation alone, the man has no verifiable qualifications in any field, he is just a puppet.

there are no facts in your posting, they are just partisan propaganda told to you by your masters. both dem and repub are the problem along with the sheep they control but someone like you will blindly follow one side to the end no matter what the cost. pursue the lie and they will believe.

why would anyone want to pay taxes on income when there is so much waste fraud and abuse that the government does very little to stop and sometimes even encourages abuse. even if one dollar is wasted/stolen, that is one dollar too much.

Left=Don't care about the real facts they just listen to BS Propaganda instead of researching it for themselves. Funny thing about the Left if CNN, ABC, MSNBC or other left wing news agencies came out and ran a article saying new studies have found that fish are smarter then people and cited sources and experts they never heard about. THEY WOULD ALL ****ING Believe it. WHY they got there information right out of the news they trust. It would never accrue to them to look up information and who theses so called experts are. They would take it as TRUTH. That is why you keep hearing about a budget surplus, yet if they looked at the facts and the information out there. They would see that that budget surplus was only smoke and mirrors. THERE was never a surplus, except on paper only........

Wake up and smell the coffee LIBS, your idiocy will be your undoing.

Swagganaut, I try to refrain from responding to outrageous comments such as yours, but your foolish statement needs a rational challenge. If you honestly believe that President Obama was elected by skin color and party affiliation only, there can be no rational discussion with you. Perhaps you are in denial. Before I rebut your simple statement, I will ask this question. What were Ronald Reagan's qualifications for the Presidency? How about George Bush (43)? Would you consider a constitutional law expert qualified for the POTUS? Are you aware that President Obama taught constitutional law for 12 years? Are you aware that he is a Harvard Law graduate? What qualifies you to determine who has the required skills and experience for anything?

$1600 a month for being in jail. Hmmmm. Think I will move to CA.

John Boehner Sux Cox... I have proof!!!

Little ronnie teatard ...blah blah....

John,

you just conceded the debate. You attacked him, and his name, not the points he discussed. That's an informal logical fallacy called "ad hominem". It basically doubles as white flag of surrender while hurling insults during your retreat. Congrats on losing any credibility.

Swagganaut, the history of the Bush 43 administration and the Obama administration has yet to be written. You may debate that issue, to a point, until it is written. The history of the Hoover administration, the Great Depression and the following Roosevelt administration is set in stone. Some may beat their heads against that stone to support their failed ideology. Such fools are born everyday. That's the only reason that history often repeats itself. Those that fail to acknowledge the mistakes of yesterday are destined to repeat them today.

He was probably collecting unemployment when he got locked up and his father and girlfriends decided to just continue cashing his checks. I doubt that anyone dumb enough to have a murder scene tattooed on his chest dreamed up the idea of committing this fraud. I also can not believe that the state does not do any kind of cross check on social security numbers between those collecting unemployment and those locked up in prison. It seems like a pretty easy check to do in order to avoid this kind of fraud. It makes you wonder how many more people there are that are fraudulently getting unemployment benefits. What I do not understand is why it took them a year and a half to put a stop to this. This is not an involved fraud that takes much effort to unravel. It is pretty clear that the guy was in prison and that the checks were still being cashed. A simple check of the bank's security tapes would have told them who was cashing the checks. There is certainly no excuse for allowing these checks to continue to be issued to the tune of $30,000, which it is doubtful the state will ever be able to recover.

"I also can not believe that the state does not do any kind of cross check on social security numbers between those collecting unemployment and those locked up in prison."

Our Internal Revenue Service is WORSE. They send out MILLIONS of dollars in IRS refunds to folks who are in prison, dead, or to someone with a DUPLICATE SSN.

And, the IRS continues to rape the American taxpayer with their computer system upgrade cost overruns....$ 3,700,000,000 AND COUNTING.

I don't get it, don't most states require proof that you are actively seeking work? It's been years since I used the benefit, has it changed that much? But how about an A in stupidity for having your crime scene tatooed on your chest?

In Oregon you have to check in weekly, and I have had to list the places where I've submitted applications and resumes, and the dates submitted, and if I talked to anyone. There's also a time limit and an amount limit on a claim.

@ldo - prisoners are not entitled to unemployment but they are entitled to IRS refund checks. IRS refunds are monies that belong to the persons who overpaid or overwitheld taxes. If a prisoner overpaid or overwitheld taxes, then they are absolutely entitled to any and all legitimate refunds. Tax refunds ARE NOT government monies. If the prisoner has judgments against them, including child support, the refunds WILL get intercepted and go to paying the judgments before the prisoner ever gets the money credited to their prison or jail account (prisoners DON'T get to have cash in prisons or jails).

They've been filing false returns & getting thousands of dollars they're not entitled to.

This problem is more widespread than the government would like you to know. Being that gang members were getting their share of his checks, I would think it would be safe to say that most of the gang members are doing it as well when they can. Its not just California, its widespread. I would bet that he was getting food stamps in his name too. The illegal immigrants and the gangs have this country all figured out when it comes to milking the system. They have the time and the population to seriously hurt this country financially, and they keep getting away with it because it doesn't "PROFIT" someone in the government to stop it. Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, and other programs are being exploited and run into the ground financially, and our fine government just stands around letting it happen in front of their noses.

Time for a shake-up in this country people!!!!!! Governments are like diapers, and should be changed often for the same reasons!!!!

floyd-

foodstamps, medicaid, medicare, social security, not the same as unemployment, which is paid for by your former employer...

jim-4120631

I was discussing inmates who FRAUDULENTLY filed bogus IRS returns. Guess the money these jail-mates receive is in an unaccounted for pot of gold somewhere.

What about these 50,000 inmates ?

• http://www.newsmax.com/US/US-Tax-Refunds-Inmates/2010/12/01/id/378662?s=al&promo_code=B37E-1

Yep, Jim.....you would make a good IRS agent. Applications are available on line.

Doyourhomework,

Isn't unemployment run by the government? Isn't it bad for the country no matter who pays? Is it not a true statement that our government is so screwed up and drowning in red tape and corruption that no matter what it tries to do, it fails miserably?

Have you ever been to or seen a government run job site? You will see 5 chiefs and one or two workers at a job. The job doesn't get done any faster or better than if there was one chief and two workers. In fact, the same patch of road will still have the same or worse pothole in less than a year. Its the same with any gov run operation. 5 chiefs for every two workers, and still nothing works properly. But they all got their fat paychecks though.

Meanwhile, we have state and federal branches of governing that are bilking and corrupting the system just as bad as the illegal immigrants, gangs, and other such criminals. They run sleazy campaigns to get elected, then once elected, they rarely fulfill promises that they made, then after one or two sessions of something you could barely call legislating,(more like bribe class 101, or letting lobbyist pay for your vote in one way or another), then they sit around and argue over who has the power, go play golf, and then its time to run for re-election. Its no wonder they have no idea who is screwing who over, they are just too damn busy. LOL.

While the gang member in this article was quite a few bricks short of a stolen load, the agency(s) that have been supporting him and his fudge buddie gangbangers in prison are either corrupt as hell, or just as short a load.

The only thing worse than failure, is being good at it!!

floyd: I've spent nearly 30 years working in a government office, and unemployment office to be specific and your picture is massively flawed. We have 60 claimstakers and it is not uncommon for all of them to be on the phone taking claims or listening to people tell obvious but unprovable lies while nearly 300 callers are waiting on hold.

The only reason we have politicians like you described is because they are elected. You are saying that voters know that they are being duped and continue to vote for politicians who carry out what you say they are doing. Do you vote?

As a 30 year state worker who has paid out millions of dollars in Unemployment Insurance, and can say that, with the number of unemployed people in this country, the employees charged with paying it are almost completely overwhelmed. The only answer is more people to investigate fraud. But that would require more workers. And that would require a way to pay for them. And that would require someone to pay more in taxes. And, from what I understand, no one wants to pay more taxes. So get used to this. As government agencies are strained by overwork and less money, this is going to be an even greater problem. Look at what goes on in Medicare fraud. What some doctors fraudulently steal is vastly greater than what this guy took in Unemployment Insurance benefits and there are not enough Medicare fraud investigators on the payroll to catch even a fraction of them.

Well Heil hitler to you too!

That's a little extreme.

Thats the problem with our system. People can easily commit fraud but people who actually work and now need help never get a penny.

That's a good question, here in MN you have to request it with a number of current answer questions, plus report job search, do they not do that in Cal? Additionally, just how long is this supposed to have happened, at least over two years. You get a percentage of your former salary up to a flat limit. Strange story.

I have a friend in CA who was getting it and he not only had to reconfirm info on the phone, he received paperwork asking about job searches in the mail but I guess his family could field the phone calls and paperwork.

Shelia: I read a little while back somewhere that it was possible to get well over $400 a week in calif. unemployment. Not too hard to accomplishment for a construction worker or other high paying jobs since they use your highest quarter out of the benefit year. The real crime here was that he was never cross referenced. Computers should be interfaced by this day and age to head off this stuff before it gets past one week. The figures they gave makes it about one and a half years so he was certainly on a fed. extension.

They need to be able to place the unemployed with any available job, rather than just let the people say that they are looking for work.

My renter applies for jobs that he knows he is not qualified for, and that he won't ever get in a million years (Microsoft, Google, on the stock market, bank manager, Calculus teacher, etc,).

He "fulfills" the requirement that he be looking for work, but he's not really looking.

These people would be irate if the unemployment agency called and told them that they found them a job shoveling snow, picking up trash, etc.

It would be HILARIOUS.

It's not hard to collect that much. $1600 a month would be $400 a week. It would come out to $39,600 with all the federal extensions.

Once again, why is he alive? just a question.

mtr89123-2020

My renter applies for jobs that he knows he is not qualified for

What are you complaining about? You are getting your rent aren't you? If you feel this is somehow fraud report it. Of course you will whine when their checks stop and you lose your rental income.

Oh and just how do you KNOW what jobs they are looking for or qualified for?

stc-

how does $1600 times 12 equal $39,600? Trust me, no one is getting rich off of unemployment...

I do report them, and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAPPENS.

I know what they apply for, because they are so proud of ripping off the system, that they all run their mouths.

Haven't you heard, most criminals run their mouths.

I can't throw them out when they pay their rent, or I'll get sued.

You have no idea what YOU are talking about.

Where do you come up with 12? She was asking how someone could get $30,000 in UE. He was getting $1600 a month that would come out to $400 a week multiply that by the 99 weeks UE is $39,600. It was 99 weeks back last year when I was on UE counting all the federal extensions. I didn't say he got all the weeks. In GA the max. is $329 a week multiply that by 99 weeks is over $32k so a lot of people get over $30,000.

The IRS has spent $ 3,700,000,000 (and costs continuing) over the past several years to upgrade their computer system and ARE STILL HAVING PROBLEMS sending our fraudulent IRS REFUND checks.

First thing: FIRE the incompetent "white collar" management people.......then get down and dirty with the computer systems.

You're assuming the guy had some identification # like a SS# and that he was even collecting the unemployment legally to begin with.

Also when my husband died I received something from SS telling me to apply for survivor benefits for our kids so apparently that IS automatic.

They need to require a thumb-print, which they need to keep in a computer file, before anyone can cash those checks. Might cut down on the fraud...and this guy's prints were already on file somewhere.

Agree, however in this case, the girlfriends probably have the back of the liquor store tattooed on their backs.

So many people could go back to work, but would rather get that unemployment check.

The checks are too high of a percentage of the actual wages; cut it to 50% and they'll go back to work.

I have a renter who hasn't worked in 2 years because his checks are so much money.

Well, look at it this way. For every lazy person who dose not want to get a job and dose not work, that is just one more job for people who do want to work.

Your tenant's income source is none of your concern as long as he pays, and even if he dose not, your still not entitled to worry about his source of income. Your concern is a safely maintained building and the occasional eviction.

Oh, and please no "but his unemployment jacks up my taxes" You think that even if there where no entitlement programs that you would not be paying high taxes? Think again, The government will always find some reason that they need your money.

As for the guy in the story. He slipped through the system. It can happen. Contrary to popular belief, computers are certainly not infallible no matter how old or new they are.

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I agree but would still vote for the mural of the white panel van (filled with Latinos) following/stalking the young girls to elementary school.

In LA we have more Latinos than the majority of Mexican large Cities have.I was going to retire to Mexico.I just waited and Mexico came here instead!

That's what I thought too.

I read through all these comments just to see if anyone thought the same thing, almost thought I was going crazy for a second.

Well Ryan ... Some times you feel like a nut; some times you don't.

You talk a lotta BS, mtr8. I have not heard you say one time on here about the thievery of the government, or, the wall street guys and the bankers. Oh I know these things must be ok with you; you know your buddies and all. What this guy has done is not nearly as bad, as all the white collar criminals whom over the years have plundered the average working mans retirement. You act as if you never cheated on your taxes and just listening too you tells me you have.

While I'm not condoning what this guy has done, he isn't the only one and more than likely never will be.

What surprises me the most, is that Nancy Pelosi isn't trying to get them re-instated, she must be slipping in her old age! Well move along folks nothing to see here just another day in California.

Oh no....if he is charged with this or his family is charged.....they will claim they are victims of harrassment because they are latino.....how many others are getting unemployment this way when honest US citizens are being denied extended unemployment.

Too much government not doing their jobs....

The liberals count drug-dealing, pimping, and grand-theft auto as gainful employment.

Next, the inner city women will be paid to babysit their own kids.

It makes me sick that the women at the welfare departments etc. "feel sorry" for these scumbags and baby-hatchery, 100% welfare for life, criminal breeders.

They already are. Look up Daycare Fraud in Milwaukee, WI. Also another tidbit about Milwaukee's upstanding, welfare recipients. FIVE cosleeping deaths in February 2012. They get free f'n cribs that they, guess what? SELL ON EBAY. There has to be some reform NOW.