it is boys wearing skirts that disturbs people..., and that will effect the learning environment.

Why is OK for girls to wear slacks, but wrong for boys to wear skirts? At one time, females in slacks was scandalous, too.

Its established into our culture and its wierd, that's why. Everything's all topsy turvy now. It's nice to have sureties in life.

Wake I am Scottish

If I want to wear what you call a skirt I will do so

Its established into our culture and its wierd, that's why.

Yes, it is established in our culture NOW, but it was shocking at one time. There's a first time for everything. The sooner that we stop trying to prevent change, the sooner we can concentrate on the real problems in our society.

Young people want the shock value and the attention. I think there should be a slightly more strict dress code. If they would of taken this more serious sooner. Perhaps there wouldn't be a bunch of 30+ year old still dressing like there heroes from the hood pants around there knees mooning the world and such. Its right right freaky and creeping wrong everyone else has endure this freakish attitude.

Sorry but most of us Liberty loving Americans don't want our kids to become the Hitler Youth. It would be different if they were being sent to a private school, but a public "school uniform dress code" is just way too Orwellian.

That is BS.Your wishy washy crap is the reason this country is going to the dogs.Other than as a prank-boys in boys clothes,girls in girls[except accepted attire].No need for boys in girls clothes except after hours when they are getting carpentry lessons[pounded,drilled]

Pained,

I'm just wondering when your opinion became the "truth"? See it isn't the opinion per se I have the issue with, it's your presenting it like you're God.

Please, answer how someone's dressing has one iota of an effect on you? I'm fairly sure the dude in your picture, would NOT be supporting mandates on how we can dress when the situation has no effect on others.

If you think having your son coming to school dressed as your daughter is not going to create problems you are living in la,la land. Then we will all yell and scream at the individual who makes fun of your sweet little son.

If somebody's bullying someone based on ANYTHING, they should be put in their place. Why do you blame the victim.

Answer the question...

How does what someone wears hurt you??? Until it does, your using the excuse that it "will cause problems" is no different then telling a female who wears a sexy outfit she was asking to get raped.

How about you teach YOUR son, to not be bully, and only worry about things that effect him.

Sarah!

How about you teach YOUR son, to not be bully, and only worry about things that effect him.

kudos to you. How simple it would be if parents "parented" and taught their kids right from wrong and provided consequences if they crossed the line

Gimmee some of that crap your smoking!

Sounds like you've already been smoking something frespech.

Being a kid means fitting in. That's how it been and will always be. Kids do not allow other kids to be the slightest bit different. The whole saggy pants, FUBU, dope rope, turned ball cap is as much a uniform as any school mandated uniform. A boy dressed as a girl IS going to cause problems absolutely unless you assign him/her a adult chaperon every minute of the day. It will also cause a problem the other way because teenage girls can be more cruel and even more violent. I worked in a high school and twice a student in separate incidents came to school looking like the love child of Alice Cooper and Marylin Manson. I am not exaggerating. Big black raccon eye make up, black lipstick, black nail polish, leather, studs etc etc. One was a boy. One a girl. They both were sent home and not allowed back until dressed correctly. School is no place for expressions of sexuality, straight or not. The bullying would be almost constant. A school uniform does not have to be like Catholic schools have. It can be as simple as jeans, a shirt with a collar and gyms shoes for boys. A allowable skirt length and a no 3 B's rule for girls. No breasts, no bellies, no backsides. Once at work while walking down the hallway I glanced into a classroom. A girl sitting in the front row had a very short jeans skirt on. That's all she had on. No panties. I immediately looked away. But I saw way more than I should have been able to see as she was sitting there with her legs spread wide open. The staff had to send kids to the school nurse for a health lecture. She and I had to get deodorants donated to the school because parents would not buy the stuff for their kids. Some teachers would keep a scented candle lit until one forgot about it and burned out a classroom.

make it pink jumpsuits for all...

First of all Sarah you can "parent" all you want, but your child is never going to be the exact way you "parented" him to be. Kids will be kids no matter how much their parents nag, or lecture, or yell, or even hit. Its always been that way, and unless you figure out a way to brainwash kids it will always be that way. Second of all cross-dressing doesn't affect me externally at all. But it's weird. And in the United States of America it isn't normal. In our culture boys dont wear skirts. They never have. Its part of the culture. The idea that a country shouldn't have a solid cultural foundation because it doesn't affect individuals is stupid. When a country lets go of its social standards, and turns soft, it does go to the dogs. And really? George Washington would advocate cross dressing? I seriously doubt that. He was big on following social conduct and etiquette.

@Prohibition: Your statement;

Sorry but most of us Liberty loving Americans don't want our kids to become the Hitler Youth. It would be different if they were being sent to a private school, but a public "school uniform dress code" is just way too Orwellian.

seems to be a little out of touch. Associating a school uniform to Hitler Youth is a far reach. I'm not sure how khakis and a "polo" equates, most businesses ask for at least that much when you work for them. My kids go to public school, every public school in the state i am in has a school uniform. It eliminates the possibility of "Gang attire" in school. As far as school uniforms/Dress code being Orwellian, it was a better time back then compared to the degeneration that is happening today. I'll take it.

Johnathon,

Oh, so you excuse bullying and are okay with it. Gotch ya.

You can always spot an ignorant "freedom" loving right winger. They love freedom as long as it matches their narrow minded definition.

Gpotts,

I love when they insist that not getting to tell other's how to live their lives, somehow infringes on their own freedoms. What??? Well maybe your freedom to boss other's around, lol.

Exactly, deal with the bullies. Chances are, if they bully over clothing, they're bullying over something else as well.

I don't agree with the uniforms. Unless the school is having A LOT of issues with gangs or some such nonsense where it could help. I've read where some schools in NY have addressed the gang issues with uniforms, but never just to simplify the dress code.

What sort of uniforms? Do the boys AND girls get to decide if they're going to wear slacks or skirts? If you require boys to wear slacks and girls dresses, that's sexist. It is also unfair to girls on cold, winter days. If, on the other hand, you allow girls to wear slacks, but deny boys the right to wear skirts, that's discrimination. Or, perhaps, you'll mandate that everyone wears slacks?

I used to be against uniforms, but now I see them as a good idea. Target in our area sells, Khaki & navy slacks and skirts, and the schools sell polo shirts with their logo's in which ever assorted colors the school chooses. On Fridays they can wear a school tee shirt. The children still have some choices, the kids from lower income homes don't stand out, and vice versa.

Uniforms are the answer. Not only for this issue, but for many others. some students going to schools in America today look like tramps (or vamps). There is no reason why a school should not set standards in dress as in other areas. All these people who arre objecting are really objecting to true discipline. No wonder the young people are out of control!

What would J Edgar Hoover say?

That would really depend on how you define "cross-dressing". If a transgender individual is forced to adhere to strict dresscodes that conflict with that individual's gender identity. THAT makes matters worse fot the transgender person. Being forced to live a lie will inevitably lead to extreme psychological issues; and possibly even suicide attempts.

That being said; if an individual is going to school "cross dressed" just to antagonize; (or if they're getting some sort of sexual pleasure from it), that would need to be addressed. Most transgender people who attempt to live their lives as opposite genders are not trying to antagonize, they're not getting some "perverse pleasure" from it; they are merely trying to find their nitche of happiness. What is wrong with needing to find comfort and happiness?

I whole heartedly agree that this ban should be dropped. Issues should be handled on an individual basis, and the bullying should be addressed, not the victim.

One chooses to cross dress, one chooses to ridicule. Get over it. It's simply a matter of choice.

fres: one chooses to RIDICULE=bad choice. People are fed up with bullys & the pain their sick behavior causes others.......

@Want the truth.. it is not about "allowing" anything.. the school is there to educate.. period .. it is not their right or authority to create any rules they personally feel like to exercise their borrowed authority.. they are there only to run the school like a manager of a company would.. only to enforce the rules they were given.. the school is not their own personal kingdom.. they are there to promote the public's view as set down in the law..

TransCalifornia - there shouldn't be a problem with someone trying to find happiness. Just don't expect the world to give its approval and I think that's what the transgender people want - acceptance by everyone. Not going to happen - that's just the way the world works.

Be who you are or who you think you are or even who you want to be - just don't expect everyone to buy into it....

Peace: wah, wah, boo hoo.

Balance, I think you misunderstand the transgender mind. I (we) have no desire to force acceptance on anyone. I (we) DEMAND respect. I (we) only expect what we give in return. Basically; I (we) just want to be left alone to live my life as I see fit. I THOUGHT that was what this country was about; but instead, there seems to be a growing trend of hatefulness and self-righteousness. YOU forcing YOUR way of life on me is no different than that which you are so outspoken against. Respect is the highest form of currency, and to receive it; you must first offer it.

TC - Funny, I was raised that RESPECT is earned not DEMANDED! You can DEMAND this all you want, doesn't mean you'll get it. I haven't FORCED anything on you or anyone else. A common problem that's growing....if someone doesn't agree with you, they're automatically a bigot...funny, but that does go both ways! You want to make assumptions and lump everyone together that doesn't agree or like the same as you....which makes you just as guilty as the people you accuse.

I have said nothing about being bigoted; and I demand respect because I offer it in kind. I make it a point to treat everyone exactly the way I want to be treated. I lumped no one into any group; I merely stated that the going trend in this country is hatefulness and self-righteoussness. If you fit that mold; don't blame me. I just call it like I see it.

Now who's making assumptions?

Trans,

Don't bother with Balance. Trust me.

I'm pretty sure what ACTUALLY makes matter's worse is close minded judgment, paranoia, self grandiosity, bullying, and ignorance. But hell, that's just my opinon.

And please keep your opinions coming, Sarah. You always lend wisdom and civility to these discussion forums.

Sarah, give me a break. Nobody wants to see your 14 year old son coming to school in a dress.

But hey, that's just my opinion.

Sarah,your PC vision of the world is what is ruining this country.There are rules,there are morals,there are judgements.

David Walker, dont you know God only created two genders and doesnt make mistakes. Please dont confuse us all with facts. (Readers please insert missing sarcasm font for above statement)

just make them all wear pink jumpsuits and be done with it...

There are rules,there are morals,there are judgements.

Who established those rules, morals and judgements? Our society advances by defying established rules and "morals". I was pretty much a conformist when I was younger, but the older I get, the more I appreciate the importance of defying convention and I applaud that characteristic in others.

One boys Skirt is another boys Kilt

Who established those rules, morals and judgements? -Barry-NJ

Well the bible had a big part in it for morals. As for judgements and rules they were esablished long before we were ever here.

As for judgements and rules they were esablished long before we were ever here.

"Because we've always done it that way" isn't a good explanation.

Better we teach our children compassion and tolerance, for differences in our society.

Pained,

Your rules, morals and judgment have no bearing on anyone's life but your own. The only thing that governs us is our secular laws. You can judge all you want, but you don't get to tell other's how, what, or where they should be.

Freshp,

I didn't know your sensibilities were so delicate that everything has to be censored to fit your view of the world???

Johnathon,

Your Bible doesn't mean jack all in our society.

Sarah - EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion....people want to live how they want to live - fine....they should (obviously). Just stop expecting the whole world to approve of your choices. Maybe once the transgender, gays and lesbians understand that, maybe they will just live their lives and stop expecting everyone else to tell them how wonderful they are.

You say that the only thing that governs us is our secular laws - that would be a false statement. People who are religious are also governed by their religious beliefs as well. And they have just as much right to that as you have to reject any kind of religion.

Balance,

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, yes. But first, let's present it as opinion as opposed to "Godly Judgment". And, when they do, be prepared for people to have an opinion on it.

Just stop expecting the whole world to approve of your choices. Maybe once the transgender, gays and lesbians understand that, maybe they will just live their lives and stop expecting everyone else to tell them how wonderful they are.

No one said you had to approve. Disapprove all you want. What you don't get to do, is force people to live the way YOU approve of. And if you want to pass judgment based on something that has ZERO effect on you, be prepared to be called out on it. If you want to excuse bullying in your home, that's fine, but in our COMMUNITIY schools, there will be consequences for it and the victim will NOT be blamed. Coddle your little bullys all you want when they get home, justify their behavior, allow them to inflict all the pain you want, but when they do it in society they are subject to rules and laws. Not being allowed to enforce your beliefs on how other's should behave doesn't force you to approve. Please, explain how it does?

You say that the only thing that governs us is our secular laws - that would be a false statement. People who are religious are also governed by their religious beliefs as well. And they have just as much right to that as you have to reject any kind of religion.

EEEEK! Sharia Law???!!!! Are you Muslim????!!!!!! (Obvious sarcasm) Just because your religion or their religion governs them, in their PRIVATE lives, doesn't mean it governs SOCIETY. Nothing doesn't equal something, ergo a lack of religious governance in things like our schools isn't any kind of state sanction of athieism. In fact, they're claiming that their prejudice against something that has no effect on them should be allowed to rule. Why? They can call whoever they want abominations in their homes/churches, but NOT in OUR schools. They wanna do that, send your kids to private school or home school them.

Sarah, so obviously anyone who disagrees with you is a bully? Nice. You represent exactly what you proclaim to hate.

Balance,

No, but you aren't simply disagreeing and neither are they. You're justifying and excusing bullying, making it okay because cross dressing is something that makes you uncomfortable, and that bullying your excusing has an effect on OUR society.

Apply the "but for" test. But for your unsolicited opinion excusing bullying, would I have said anything to you?

But for their justification of an action that hurts others, would I have jack to say about their opinions on cross dressing?

Now, your/their but for, is a but for that hurts no one. None of you have given me any way, other than offending your delicate sensiblities, that cross dressing hurts you? And then you all proclaim we're the sensitive ones???

Ergo, you/they have no "but for." But for what???? How they dress, well as I asked above, what effect does that have on your life.

Bullsh!t Sarah, where in my post did I excuse bullying? You want to know something, don't presume you know people on these newvines.

I am the mother of a 13 year old son who has Autism, GAD and Sensory Processing disorders. I deal with bullying on a DAILY basis because my son is in middle school! I have been told that there's nothing wrong with my son, I'm just a bad parent. I have been told that my son should be euthanized and me along with him for having brought him into this world. So, excuse me, when I tell you that I do know a thing or two about bullying!

My point is this: LIVE YOUR FREAKING LIFE, don't expect everyone you meet to like you, approve of you or anything else. That's a simple fact! I don't care if you're black, white, pink with purple polka dots, gay, straight, religious or non- religious.

Balance,

My point is this: LIVE YOUR FREAKING LIFE, don't expect everyone you meet to like you, approve of you or anything else. That's a simple fact! I don't care if you're black, white, pink with purple polka dots, gay, straight, religious or non- religious.

And that's exactly my point to those who justify bullying people because those people happen to cross dress. I would have nothing to say to them, EXCEPT THAT THEY ARE HURTING OTHER PEOPLE. And by supporting their position, you too are justifying their bullying.

I could care less about your personal story, but if it's true, it makes it even more unjustifiable that you would support the positions of the posters above. Did you even read them??? Maybe you should.

You may be perfectly comfortable allowing people to excuse the actions of bully's, as long as their doing the bullying for things that meet your "moral" standards, but I refuse to sit passively in the face of it.

"The surest way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

You know, some people are just never going to accept autistic people, maybe you should just deal with it and stop trying to force them too???

How does it feel, lady???

They don't have to like them, they don't have to approve of them, but that doesn't exucse their bullying them. Keep your dislikes out of your actions, and we'll have no problem. When they start infringing on other's rights, especially when those other's have done nothing to harm you, than we're gonna have words.

You're the worst kind of enabler. Have some guts to stand up for the right thing, lady.

The surest way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

Sarah. That statement means you are not qualified

Frespech,

You never answered my question, how does cross dressing effect you? Can you answer it? Can you post anything substantive, or is this just the safest way to spew your hatred??? You know, online, where you can't really face any consequences.

Craig,

No, but it is my dream job.

Wow Sarah, so your compassion extends only to cross-dressing kids, gays and lesbos. Typical.

I face people every day who don't want to deal with my son, who don't like my son, etc.... Guess what, lady, life goes on and the earth still spins and I don't lose any sleep over people who don't like me or my son. I follow my own advice. I live my life and ask no one's permission or approval over how I do it and that is what I teach my kids. Be the best you can be and don't worry about what anyone else thinks. Try it sometime.

Balance,

No, but way to take everything out of context. Don't confuse tolerance and passivity. My compassion extends to innocent human beings who aren't harming anyone, that is my only qualification. NOT HARMING PEOPLE. When your hateful beliefs seep into your actions, then it's on. And didn't you show your true colors...

Wow Sarah, so your compassion extends only to cross-dressing kids, gays and lesbos. Typical.

You're not even discussing the same thing. This isn't about how you live your life, or how you deal with other's judgments. It's about what YOU AS A HUMAN BEING ARE GOING TO DO WHEN CONFRONTED WITH A SITUATION.

Guess what, lady, life goes on and the earth still spins and I don't lose any sleep over people who don't like me or my son

So it's okay for those people to be sh**y to you? It's okay for society to justify their actions because people are uncomfortable around autisitc kids??? Or is it only okay to justify those actions when it's something that makes YOU uncomfortable. You sure do like to play the victim, don't you???

Are you going to write it off, "Oh, well not everyone's going to accept cross dressing kids, so if people want to let their kids bully them who cares???" Or are you going to say, "It doesn't matter if you approve or disapprove of what they are doing, bullying them isn't okay." How you teach your children to handle the fact that people are mean for no reason, has nothing to do with how you address the behavior of the person who is mean for no reason.

You know, you might need to hear that more then once...

How you teach your children to handle it, has nothing to do with how you address the bully.

How you teach your children to handle it, has nothing to do with how you address the bully.

How you teach your children to handle it, has nothing to do with how you address the bully.

Come on, which one do you pick??? You're a "new age" bigot. You know, bigotry is such a faux pas these days and you want to look all tolerant in front of the neighbors, so you look for any possible way to justify your disgusting hatred without looking prejudice.

Sarah - I think you may need some anger management classes. It's obvious in all your postings that if someone doesn't agree with you or write the way you think they should, it apparently sends you off the deep end. You may want to seek help for that. Good luck.

And as for me and mine - I've got it...but, oh wait, you could care less about my personal life....

One last thing, you may need to hear this more than once:

ANGER MANAGEMENT CLASS!

ANGER MANAGEMENT CLASS!

ANGER MANAGEMENT CLASS!

Balance,

You didn't answer the question...

Are you going to write it off, "Oh, well not everyone's going to accept cross dressing kids, so if people want to let their kids bully them who cares???" Or are you going to say, "It doesn't matter if you approve or disapprove of what they are doing, bullying them isn't okay." How you teach your children to handle the fact that people are mean for no reason, has nothing to do with how you address the behavior of the person who is mean for no reason.

How come you didn't answer it? It's easy. Which one do you pick?

And if people aren't angry about the crap you've posted, they aren't good people. I have no problem being called angry, when my anger is directed at willfull, harmful, ignorance.

Now, go run off and justify your little bully's behavior some more. Come back when you're at least capable of owning your bigotry.

Balanced: Careful what you say you may hurt Sarahs little feelings. Oh my goodness.

Frespech,

You still haven't answered my question either...

You never answered my question, how does cross dressing effect you? Can you answer it? Can you post anything substantive, or is this just the safest way to spew your hatred??? You know, online, where you can't really face any consequences.

What do you take crap from your boss all day, and then try to make yourself feel tough by posted ignorant one liner insults on the web? I mean, you could at least try to be funny if you're going to troll like that.

Apparently the answer is no.

Printing in BOLD letters doesn't make you bold. It makes you an angry little lady, Go shout at your husband all you want. Although he probably got tired of it and left already.When you go to the circus and see a clown do you laugh?

Sarah, If you were actually interested in anything I had to say, I would definitely respond. But, judging by your postings, all you are interested in is attacking me and insulting my children. If you are sooo not interested in my personal life, then why worry about what I do and how I do it?

You're pointing the finger at me screaming BIGOT - what exactly have you communicated in YOUR postings other than judgment and insults.....you've shown kindness and compassion? The very thing you are forever SCREAMING about at people is the ONE THING you fail to give.

I am done with you. Have a nice day.

Balance,

And go read my posts again. Perhaps you just have a problem with reading comprehension, because simply stating that I "did this" or "did that" doesn't make it true. And personaly, I don't believe or care a word about what you claim your daughter does. The truth is illustrated quite clearly in your posts. And this is pertaining to bullying gay students/cross dressers.

Fresp,

Apparently, the answer is still no, little man.

P.S.

And Balance, I give compassion to innocent people. Your bigotry and exucses for bullys no longer make you innocent or harmless.

Ya know what Sarah - take a good look at your reflection in the mirror when you want to see a hateful person...Go re-read my posts to see if you can understand anything I may have said.

Oh and you give compassion to "innocent people"...no you mean people who agree with you. Typical.

Balance,

I thought you were done??? I'm sorry if speaking the truth hurts your sensibilities. Like I said, I have no problem being vitriolic in the defense of innocent people. Not people like me, that would mean only straight, white, females, but innocent people. Period.

Oh and you give compassion to "innocent people"...no you mean people who agree with you. Typical.

So yes, I guess you're right in a way, since people like me are the ones who stand up to the bullys. Remember the "but for" test. But for those excusing bully, what did I say or post??? You're right, I have no compassion for bullys or those who justify their behavior. I can tolerate their view points, but I don't have to sit silently in the face of them.

Maybe once the transgender, gays and lesbians understand that, maybe they will just live their lives and stop expecting everyone else to tell them how wonderful they are.

This was my favorite part of your posts. Like telling kids it's not okay to bully people who don't harm you somehow equates to gay kids feeling entitled to constant praise.

You say that the only thing that governs us is our secular laws - that would be a false statement. People who are religious are also governed by their religious beliefs as well. And they have just as much right to that as you have to reject any kind of religion.

Or this, that somehow claims that private religions govern our society.

Bottomline, you just don't like getting called out on your BS or hearing the truth.

Sarah, your bitchiness is quite funny. Silly little woman like you don't command and don't get any respect which is why they get behind some cause and start trying to out yell everyone. I've got some news for you. It will not work. You will still be the lost little individual that no man wants to spend any time with. Enjoy your miserable little life.

Fresp,

A little defensive are we??? Did I hurt your feelings or something? Must have hit the nail on the head with you, huh?

And apparently, the answer is still no.

The answer is still no, Please try and make a cognitive response. What in my response leads you to believe you have come anywhere close to hurting my feelings. I said you were a bitchy little lonely female. Bigger badder, bolder people than you have tried. I didn't need my mommy, my Mommy's mommy or anyone to fight my battles. I do it on my own and I can fight with you all day and all night and wake up tomorrow and do it all again. You may have better luck trying to impose your will on one of those guys who likes to wear dresses. Good luck.

Frepch,

I asked you a question, eons ago, you never answered. Here, I'll repost it again..

You never answered my question, how does cross dressing effect you? Can you answer it? Can you post anything substantive, or is this just the safest way to spew your hatred??? You know, online, where you can't really face any consequences.

You know, the fact that your STILL being all defensive, talking about how big/bad you are, and calling names, and all that stuff, which is what every single one of your posts have been, just one line here or there making fun of people, that's a pretty good illustration of your self esteem issues.

If it weren't true, why go to the bother of calling me names or discussing my love life? Things that are so clearly unrelated to the question of how cross dressing effects you, or even the article in general.

Here are your posts...

Sarah, give me a break. Nobody wants to see your 14 year old son coming to school in a dress.

Sarah. That statement means you are not qualified

Balanced: Careful what you say you may hurt Sarahs little feelings. Oh my goodness.

Printing in BOLD letters doesn't make you bold. It makes you an angry little lady, Go shout at your husband all you want. Although he probably got tired of it and left already.When you go to the circus and see a clown do you laugh?

Sarah, your bitchiness is quite funny. Silly little woman like you don't command and don't get any respect which is why they get behind some cause and start trying to out yell everyone. I've got some news for you. It will not work. You will still be the lost little individual that no man wants to spend any time with. Enjoy your miserable little life.

Now, all I'm asking is for you to answer how cross dressing effects you, so why so many attempts to insert yourself into the converstation and so many insults? Why not just answer the question or ignore what isn't directed at you? I mean, after all you addressed me first, it wasn't like I was searching out conversation with you.

Each one gets progressively more defensive. How come?

I insert myself into the conversation for the very same reason as you do. Because I can. Please tell me your taking a night course in psychology and failing at that. "Self esteem". Once again I suggest you try your psyco babble BS on your cross dressing boyfriend because it sure doesn't work on me. Now to finally answer your ridiculous question, it doesn't effect me one bit, and I feel quite free to laugh at it when I see it. Hope that clears it up for you. Enough with the self pity party on how insulted you are. Maybe as Balance stated before you might take a look at your own posts and see how you might be considered as insulting to anyone who doesn't share your particular opinion. That's my last word to you so feel free to respond or not. "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn".

I'm not trying to effect you, I'm must wondering why you're so defensive and try so hard to be mean, and why you can't answer the question.

So it doesn't effect you one bit. Well, you put an awful lot of energy into insulting and hating people that have no effect on your life, especially when you claim not to care about anything.

Or, you just get your rocks off being mean. And why this obsession with my "boyfriend" and "love life"? Kinda creapy.

So, why post all this stuff if it and I have no effect on you?

Freedom of Expression.

The right to Life Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

No I see this as a win for our country and what it is supposed to stand for.

Exactly edandbunny, the conservatives want freedom until it's for something they dislike.

you mean liberals..., they want the gov out of their lives... but taking care of their every need.

TC, you hit the nail on the head. Dignity for all. This should never even be a problem. At this point in our history you would think our minds would be opened to the real world around us.

Hooray, Utopia, We all get to do whatever we want. yippee, what a wonderful friggin zoo.

Were not talking about removing anybodies right. what is the right that you are referring to.

@frespech: the "right" is the one about free speech and expression... life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.. * thought I saw that somewhere ..

really!?, because most liberals have no use for the constitution. Have you seen how the kids already dress in High School lately? wow..., and now there will be at least a few boys in skirts; talk about a dangling participle.

A right winger chastising a liberal for their recognition of the Constitution is the funniest thing I have seen today. Most right wingers haven't the slightest clue as to the wording and/or meaning of the Constitution. They can't even interpret the 1st and 2nd, the only two they even care about.

P.S. Wakey....please guide us to the haberdashery clause in the Constitution, I must have missed that one in college.

As I said before; obviously; the concept of "transgender" is highly misunderstood. Most "cross dressers" (or those who merely do it for their own personal delight) would be horrified for others to find out they do it. And most are heterosexual. Transgender individuals don't even consider themselves "cross dressed", They (I) dress the way they (I) feel. It has nothing to do with delight or perversion; it has to do with finally being comfortable in one's own skin; and feeling no need to live a lie any further.

Funny!

A friend of my Mom's was born in the early 1900s. so when she was a teenager, it was in the middle 20s. So all of these high school boys and all of these high school girls would go on camp outs together, their parents even let them, thinking their children are good kids and won't get into trouble (boy, they were surprised, I bet). And this friend of my Mom's, her Mother would say, "You can do anything you want and have fun, but DON'T YOU SMOKE!" So guess what these kids did all the weekend? They smoked like chimneys. My Mom told her that maybe your mother was smart. Give them something that is taboo to keep them busy. They smoked like chimneys, didn't have sex but they sure smoked a lot. LOL. Times sure have changed, eh?

... so which bathroom are these boys in drag supposed to use? ... I guess now the boys and girls will all shower together like in the military; what difference does it make to separate them?

How about a string bikini, but I'm sure by your post that would be okay as well.

have you seen the way that the kids dress in High School today?..., the girls dress like street walkers and the guys have one hand holding their pants up to their mid-thigh.

and conjugate a dangling participle...

yeah, but some boys will wear a skirt... if nothing else so that they can sue someone for sexual harassment. And you can bet that there will be a gay couple dressing up their six year old boy in a dress, just so that they can get a call of support from the President... and maybe write a book.

Wakey....you are a sick, ignorant klansman. Go burn a cross or kick a puppy. I am sure your wife/sister(probably the same person) needs you for something.

yeah, but your boss may not appreciate you showing up at the office in a dress, high heels and a beard.

But Iggy Pop wasn't a woman.

'More people will turn gay', you crack me up janman. Your either born gay or your not, you don't just wake up one day and decide your going to be gay! If you just 'decide' to be with a person of the same sex one day you were bi-sexual not gay.

yeah, but they will be teaching a recruiting new gays in elementary school... and dressing them in drag; and if you complain you are a bigot.

What are "boy clothes" and what are "girl clothes"? And, who decides which is which?

@janmann86: I would have marked your post "inflammatory" if it had made any sense...

these two are too ignorant to post coherent statements. It's what happens when siblings mate. I bet both hang out in airport men's rooms....they complain WAY too much!

YOU ARE A BIGOT!!!! and you seem to be proud of it!

Not everyone believes in the invisible sky dude jasonearl. I know a LOT of moral people who don't need to crutch of religion to keep them moral. Morality is a very subjective subject as well, no two people will have exactly the same morals.

the gov will make all of those decisions for us..., not to worry.

Christ Sake This Is Sick, No Wander This Country Is Going down The Drain, You Liberals Need Mental Health,.......November can't Come Soon Enough To Flush The Toliet Of This Garbage,......For Christ sake,.....Next thing Will Be Allowing Some Nude Beaches,......You People Are Depraved,.......Freedom Dosen't Mean Doing anything You want Out In Public,.........The Problem With You People Is You Have Had You Head Up Hollywoods Butt To Long,......Especially You Dumb Stupid Ignorant Woman

Why is it "self-preservation"? How does a guy in a dress (or a girl in a man's suit) harm you in any way?

Well adjusted "hetro" males, would NOT be enraged!

with this crap thrown in our faces.

Only insecure, confused males would even worry about such things....

Spoken by someone with a great deal of penis envy and a sissy boy for a mate.