No, we can be proud Americans. The Hispanic kids were Americans too. That's why it's racist.

@geo: Guess what? I'm a liberal, and I think this is incredibly stupid. I mean, I don't understand why they were shouting "USA" when they beat another American team, but for the coach to tell them to shut up then apologize? Freaken ridiculous. They have nothing to apologize for

You nailed it sir. It seems it is ok to trash us every where we turn but heaven forbid we chant USA. It's almost as bad as the Quran being burnt so they kill 10 Americans and the we apologize.

I am tired of apologizing cause I am an American. It is always that 3% that make us spineless.

Alamo Heights Superintendent Kevin Brown said he has apologized to San Antonio Independent School District officials. Well he needs a history lesson and some visits from some Veterans on what USA stands for.

Ridiculous... how can chanting USA be racist??? Were the hispanic students wearing Mexican flags?? Even if they were.... still not racist... maybe tasteless but not racist... besides hispanic IS NOT a race!

Would they have preferred, "Remember the Alamo!" as that is part of the school's name, but another historical event that might "offend"?

So we're not supposed to say the pledge at school events anymore, not sing the national anthem at events anymore, no prayers allowed, no mascots that might offend, no team names that might offend, no singing/chanting anything that might be construed as anti-anything.......

Ever think that we're loosing sight of the real picture? We're supposed to be patriotic, we are supposed to be happy when we win, and the kids chanting USA was a bit unusual- but both teams were from Texas so it should be ok. Who cares if the other team had latino players- they were US citizens, right??

I hope all of the lawyers, bleeding hearts, etc. are happy. You have pretty much diluted values in this country and are quickly curtailing freedom of speech. Nice.

We are all Americans. The chant was made to imply otherwise. It was meant as an insult to other citizens who the crowd wanted to make fell as though were less than American. To use the cread "USA" as means of demeaning others should be offensive to any patriotic American.

So we're not supposed to say the pledge at school events anymore, not sing the national anthem at events anymore, no prayers allowed, no mascots that might offend, no team names that might offend, no singing/chanting anything that might be construed as anti-anything.......

We are spiraling down as a country at an alarming rate.....

The reason they were chanting is exactly what is wrong with our country. Since the other team was mainly brown-skinned kids, the white-skinned kids had to demonstrate that fact, and that the white-skinned team was superior because of the skin color. it didn't matter that they were all citizens. If you idiots can't see past the top level news story and understand exactly why this was racist, you really are blind. It's just like using terms like "take our country back". Take it back from who? Us?

Crying out USA is Racist? That's absolutely ridiculous. Are the students at the other school not Americans?

This PC garbage has got to go. This is just dumb.

Why didn't the students at the other school not just join in on the USA chant? Aren't they proud Americans?

If the Hispanic team won and their fans chanted viva Mexico, it would have been considered a non issue. Obviously the anti-American left wing socialistic teachers union deemed an apology necessary. Political correctness makes one want to vomit.

The Alamo Heights head coach silenced the students as soon as he heard them. We weren't there. If the winning team's head coach immediately thought it was inappropriate, it probably was. It's not like the other team's coach complained (at least that we are aware of).

Alamo Heights High School, which is made up mostly of white students, beat Edison High, which is predominantly Hispanic, in the Region IV-4A championship in San Antonio on Saturday.

Sooooo in Texas you are only considered American if you are white. Some of the hispanic families who live in the southwest have been there since before it was ever a part of america.

Would they have chanted "USA! USA!" had they just beaten an all white team?

I doubt it, and THAT's the problem, all the nonsense justification above aside (and yes, there is plenty of criticism over the Mexican flag when it is raised).

I do think it's more of a sore looser item than a "racist" thing. A complaint to the state athletic's board? Come on, you know that it's the school's/coach's way of saying that they unfairly lost the game and "deserve" to go on in the tournament.

How about we keep sports simple, you loose and you walk away and learn from loosing. I will give an exception though- in Boston, MA a school appealed to the state athletic's board because an opposing paent was caught pointing a laser pointer into the eyes of their hockey goalie during the 3rd period of a 1-1 tied state tournament game. The game ended in a 3-1 loss for the team who's goalie had the light in her eyes. The parent was caught and thrown out when it was noticed, but the girl's eyes could have been damaged/effected through the game and beyond. That is a legitimate reason to ask the state for a replay of the 3rd period (what was requested, but denied by the board BTW). They didn't even ask for an unsportsmanlike forfeit of the game by the other team, just a fair chance to win.

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What was that old saying that some people once used? Ah, "excuse me for living." It has about come to that?

Why did the oppossing team NOT join in with this cheer?

I wonder what Rush Limbaugh has to say about this.

For all of you trying to throw American Pride in the air on this one, America is about FREE speech, which includes speech that may offend the rest of you. This includes chanting anti-american slogans just as much as any other speech. Free Speech is exactly that.....FREE.

So, David Noah, you're saying that the government was behind what happened at this random, high-school basketball game as part of a grand conspiracy which seeks to... Oh I don't know... Control what crowds chant at random high school basketball games?

Missmeyet

Why did the oppossing team NOT join in with this cheer?

Are you serious? Those chants were clearly meant as insults and the intent was "we are Americans and you are not" ..... why would the objects of those insulting chants want to "join in"? Do you really not understand that those "USA" chants were not patriotic, but instead were insulting, exclusionary and counter to the American spirit? If these chants are patriotic the Westboro Baptist Church is "Christian".

@ Englishlass

Where did hispanic kids lower an American flag to raise a Mexican one? This sounds fabricated.

stonedog

When people blame others of the same race or skin color for things that different people have done, that is racism. You justify racist behavior based on your sad tale of the actions of Hispanic people WHO WERE NOT ATTENDING THE SCHOOL THAT WAS INSULTED. Sorry, that was a swing and a miss for you.

What an absolute bunch of crap. Americans should apologize for chanting "USA" in America? Really! That oughta be a cold day in hell.

But it's okay when illegals hoist the Mexican flag and demand that we do this, that, and the other.

Gimme a freaking break.

There ARE sh*tty little hispanic kids that like to jump American kids

It takes a 'special' kind of person to try to make others fear and hate children based on ethnicity, which is what you seem to be about.

n*gg*r or sp*c

That kind of language is not worthy of a geologist.

Are you proud of yourself, dog? Did you get some of that hatred off your chest?

I guess you can either let it out, and spread your hatred around, or hold it in and let it destroy you, or...

Let it go. You're being ridiculous. Hispanic kids don't hate you for being 'white'. Most of them probably don't realize they aren't 'white' until someone like you tells them.

Stop hating people. Go to church. Learn to see God in other people.

You'll feel better.

commonsense....less
it has and does happen.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Students-Wearing-American-Flag-Shirts-Sent-Home-92945969.html

this story raised the hair on my neck!!
the kids wore shirts with american flags on may 5, better known as cinco de mayo.

THEY got expelled from school for wearing shirts with american flags on them!
the mexicans at the school DEMANDED the students apologise for wearing such offensive shirts to school.
so it does happen and it is sickening.

i live in san antonio and Alamo Heights is the Old money part of town, Alot of the rich white old people live there in very old but very nice homes.
Edison is very southside, lots of mexicans, and i put money down that the team is probably coached in spanish.

But i would like to point out the mascot of the Alamo Heights is the Mule, probably better known as the JACKASS!

that was stupid of the kids, but not racist.

there are mexicans that live in alamo heights also, i have a friend from mexico living there now, its not a gated community or someplace that special people have access to.
so dont make it seem like its a hot bed of pitch forks and torches.

The USA team should refuse to play anymore until the other school apologizes. If these administrators are ashamed of our country, they should get the hell out.

What's anti-American about chanting USA, USA?

darrell -

You say you're not racist, yet you refer to me as "your brown ass." I'll admit, I have some racist tendencies, especially towards white people (kind of crazy, being half-white myself, but after the @!$%# I've put up with from a bunch of white people, meh, @!$%# it, I'm not going into my motivations with you). I do try to work on my racist tendencies, though, to pick them apart and prevent them from dictating my behavior. Not completely successful, but I still work at it. And I don't defend the kids putting up the Mexican flag, either. It was probably a stupid stunt, coordinated to piss off the racists, but would still be inappropriate (though I generally find that almost anything that pisses racists off is usually appropriate). Then again, I don't give a rat's ass about people burning the flag, or 'disrespecting' the flag in any way. I care about how people are treated, not a piece of cloth.

commonsense -

I did not equate white people with racists. I said there were a bunch of white, racist @!$%#s on this thread. And, I pointed out that Alamo Heights is a breeding ground of racist white @!$%#s. Mostly because I've been there, grew up knowing people there, and have heard some really racist @!$%# there. It's not my imagination. Go talk to anyone from San Antonio, and ask them how white Alamo Heights is. If you've got a Spanish/Mexican last name, even if you look white, you'll have a @!$%# time trying to get into a club there. Police pull over people for driving-while-black. I'm not making this up, either. It's a racist rat-hole, and the sooner people understand that, the sooner they'll understand the motivation of the kids as being racist asshats, not some stupid Olympics moment or whatever.

Didn't you know? We're not supposed to be proud Americans. Even Obama has traveled around the globe apologizing for America. The PC liberals don't even want us to engage in patriotic events or wave our flag because it might OFFEND SOMEBODY!

It's okay with Obama to have Mexican President Calderon come here and lecture Congress on what our immigration policy should be. It's okay for Calderon to put a billboard up on the border saying "No More Weapons" from the U.S. even though he continues to allow massive amounts of drugs and millions of illegal immigrants to come into our country.

Obama doesn't care if the Mexican kids take the U.S. flag down at one of our public schools and replace it with a Mexican flag. Obama doesn't demand an apology when they burn our flag either. Apparently, just like his wife, Obama isn't proud to be American. He thinks this country is a disgrace and needs to apologize to the rest of the world. But what do you expect from someone who sat in the pews for 20 years listening to a preacher that shouts "God damn America!"

the fans at that school listen to to much poltics the comments on here. you racist continue to treat hispanics as if they are not american. what if hispanics started chanting mexico at a all white school? om from jersey and where im from were all family, i would never put down hispanics or any race. but down south like texas has some serious racial problems cuz poltics is stuck in thier brains. bet they fail all thier school work and instead listen to poltics all day such as these comments. its disgsting and very racist.

pics or it didn't happen

LOL

Here ya go!

http://www.eutimes.net/2010/05/school-suspends-student-for removing-mexican-flag

www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/m/montebello-flag.html

www.snopes.com/photos/politics/mexicoflag.asp

www.wnd.com/2006/08/37688

Or you can just google it and find out for yourself. (Iknow, it's hard) :D

Also

fear and hate little kids

???????

So stating facts to point out that it seems that the only people who can't be offended by racism are white people means I am afraid?

LOL

You sure are good at making sh*t up.

That kind of language is not worthy of a geologist.

That's okay, I'm not a geologist. ;)

for real to all you conservtive trolls taking over the internet and speaking all this hate its not even funny. i didnt even know ppl were so hateful and racist until couple years ago. its amazing. your lying and making up stuff about hispanics saying they wave the mexican flag and all that stuff. thats a total lie, i live in a mostly white area BUT 5 mins from me is the city where its mostly latino. and they hardworking good ppl. they never do that stuff you claim. sure they speak spanish but what i dont understand is why does it bother you guys? its hate thats why. you cant be dictators and tell ppl what language to speak. like i said im from jersey, even tho i live in a mostly white area i dont belive in racism and neither does my area. we are not racist. but down south this is a serious problem. your just dividing the whole country. at the end of the day we all need each other.

This makes my brain hurt.

I knew Texas was...well..weird but I didn't think it was this bad.

How stupid.

It's time to show these administrators who is boss - the people!

We need to protest this guy.

Anyone have his home phone number?

Because I can let him hear USA plenty.

We have 20 million illegals. We can't block the from getting an education paid for by the real citizens.

They have TV stations, and ballots in Spanish.

Enough is enough. This is insane that they cannot say USA. So now that is a forbidden word?

If I was this administrator, I wouldn't leave the house for a while. You are playing with fire. There are plenty of people that are completely fed up with this country being called a dirty word. I might just use words, but you have insulted many Americans who will defend their free speech rights much more vigorously.

So now "USA" is equal to a four letter word that you cannot say?

Have people lost their freakin minds?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montebello_High_School_flag_flipping_incident

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Likeness_of_Flags_Displayed_at_Montebello_High_School_in_March_2006.jpg

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/m/montebello-flag.htm

To commonsense...

"Hispanic kids don't hate you for being 'white'. Most of them probably don't realize they aren't 'white' until someone like you tells them."

Don't kid yourself. They know. My husband is Hispanic and grew up in a rough high school, and when his classmates caught him studying or not dressing "Mexican" enough, he said the insult always was, "What are you trying to do? Act WHITE?" As if studying and dressing nice is a white thing.

I'm sure most of the kids at the Hispanic high school in this story were Americans as well, as the common practice among illegals in Texas is to cross the border and have your "anchor baby" on American soil, then go from there. We used to live in Texas, and there are flags flown from cars and houses from every Hispanic country you can imagine. And get this. When a minor league hockey team was forming in Houston, the original name under consideration was something that had 1836 in the name, but it was deemed too "hurtful" to Hispanics, as this is the date they lost to Texas. Right. Ask your average Hispanic person walking down the street for the significance of the year 1836, and I doubt they could tell you.

What Alamo Heights did was probably more poor sportsmanship than anything, and all of the overreacting going on in this country, apologizing for everything, is ridiculous. From what I see, the only thing it is still cool to berate someone for is for being white, Christian, conservative, and heterosexual. If you are any or all of those things, you are expected to spend your life apologizing, while others are allowed to raise a stink if they perceive you have offended them.

I don't think this is racist, but it certainly is hilarious! I also hope the parents of these kids encourage them to say USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA before and after every game in the future!

I have a feeling that Obama will make a call to the offended school to tell them their parents should be so proud of them. Or perhaps his handlers will get it right and tell him that it might offend Americans. I know, the other school is full of Americans also. We'll never know exactly how many Americans and illegals go to our public schools. Our liberal leaders, both Democrat and Republican, have deemed it illegal to ask those questions for fear of offending those in this country illegally.

We have 20 million illegals.

"Illegal" is the new n-word. It is meant just as kindly, and used for the very same reasons as the old n-word. It is just applied to a different set of people in order to victimize, belittle, and dehumanize "them".

We have 10.8 million unauthorized immigrants, and nearly all of them were educated either before they got here, or at their employers expense after they got here.

But if you're talking about Latinos in general, the number is closer to 37.5 million. Of course, a lot of those have 'white' skin, so you can't really tell who they are.

Scary, isn't it?

Oh, and commonsense, another thing -

About the kind of language I use? I'd say it's better than pussy-footing around, trying (or, in my case, pretending to try) not to "offend" the people who are offending me. They don't like me because I'm Hispanic, they don't like me because I'm an atheist, they don't like me because I'm a liberal (really not too far left, but in this political climate, apparently I'm a hard-left neo-commie, or whatever new appellation Beck and Limbaugh have decided upon today).

I'm not going to criticize you for the way you approach things. I'd appreciate it if you didn't try to talk to me about my "language." I'm a fan of the "all ways" approach to ranting at idiocy. You have your soft-spoken tongue that many people like to hear. I have my firebrand slash-and-burn approach, and like to think of my tongue (or keyboard) as a multi-pronged instrument of instruction. Let's not fight amongst ourselves over tone. And if you really believe that those idiots over there that say "oh, I think he might be right, but I don't agree with him simply because he's 'foul-mouthed'" are genuine? I'll call them all liars and sleep better at night, because at least I nearly got through to them.

Geography lesson: Mexico is part of America and the United States of America is not solely America. There is a North America and a South America, they are both continents with arbitrary borders that are designed to exclude some out of certain areas. If children of Mexican heritage play for a school in a U.S. state that was once part of Mexico and now has been arbitrarily marked as the U.S. then yelling “U.S.A., U.S.A.” makes absolutely no sense. If instead they were playing a team that is of Mexican heritage and comes from the southern country that has arbitrarily been marked as Mexico, then chanting “U.S.A., U.S.A.” would in fact make sense. Then again, isn’t Texas it’s own planet by now?;)

I gotta say, I get some satisfaction out of seeing "commonesense" (hahaha. you obviously don't have a clue what that term means) comments get collapsed, or no votes.

The narrowest, most hateful minds are always the loudest. "Everybody that doesn't agree with me is evil!!!" Guess what, I'm glad that so many of us disagree with you.

I have now heard it all and this tops the list. Okay Lord whenever you're ready to bring me home I'm ready to go. This place is too out of control for this American, enough is enough.

USA!, USA!, USA!, USA!, USA!, USA!, USA!...and I will never apologize even at the threat of death!

What ever you do don't insult the illegals! its their country too.

While I agree it's stupid, why were they chanting USA is the school they beat was also from the USA? That is what doesn't make sense to me and opens potential for this story to be true if the losing team is highly multicultural or has immigrant children on it.

Still yeah, this is a non-issue. Surprised a Texas school was apologizing for this though; guess Texas is not as die hard Conservative as I once thought (the USA bit not the racist bit).

We used to live in Texas, and there are flags flown from cars and houses from every Hispanic country you can imagine

Yeah, I know. My brother used to live across the street from a couple that flew the British flag on British holidays just because the wife was from England. can you imagine his lack of outrage?

Then there are people with usernames like "English lass". How non-offensive is that?

Considering the number of people I know that can't tell the difference between an American, a Mexican, a Costa Rican, or a Pakistani on sight, I have to wonder how many of those flags you really recognized.

As to why it BOTHERED you? We all know the answer to that one.

By the way, did you ever visit that amusement park in Arlington called "Six Flags Over Texas"? Pretty cool, huh? Did the treasonous Confederate flag bother you? Spain? Mexico? France?

Nah. Probably not.

At first I was ticked that a bunch of high school kids - and I know quite well where Alamo Heights is - saw fit to taunt another, also US, high school that happens to be mostly Hispanic/Mexican descent kids - with a USA chant. Of course, implying that by being of Mexican background - though likely American citizens - meant they weren't American. How insulting. But nowaday, seems like it's ok to bark out personal attacks - then say "Oh, can't ya take a joke", or "don't be so thin skinned". Yeah right. Let's see how you like it if someone gets in your face, and denies you your nationality, or personal identity.

To tell the truth, the Alamo Heights story hurts a bit, because San Antonio has always been one of my favorite towns, and was nearly 60% Hispanic when we lived there years back. Everyone got along pretty well 20 years ago, but now sounds like they are going the way of those idiots in AZ. A shame.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, up in NorCal where those high schoolers thought it quite funny to wear American Flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo day, the principal didn't want trouble and sent them home. He should have let them stay - and take their chances of "playground justice". (Note: back in the day, my mother forbid me to wear clothing with an American flag, as "disrespectful", but oh well.)

Maybe it's time for school officials and law enforcement to step back, and let some of these kids learn their lesson - that personal attacks and taunting can get you stomped on, and let the kids decide if it's worth it. Hey, maybe an all out pounding without the brownie cops to bail them out would have been a great life lesson - think before you insult someone.

This is the U.S.A.. If the Mexicans or Latino's are illegals, no one wants you here, so go back from where you were born. If you came to America Legally or are legal by birth, your alliegence belongs to the U.S.A., if you don't like that then you to should leave the U.S.A.. The school official that issued an apology should be fired NOW. Down in Texas and California, the politicians and schools allow the Mexican Flag to be above the American Flag and even allow these "wet backs" to burn and destroy the American Flag, we shoot people that do that where I live in America.

Not too long ago when a "white" high school played football against a "colored" high school, the "white" schools band would play the song Dixie.

The intent was the same. They wanted the "coloreds" to know their place.

And all of you ranting about babies as though they were inanimate objects, and condemning God's handiwork are trying to do the SAME THING.

It was disgusting and unAmerican then, and it's disgusting and unAmerican now.

Once you drive out the 'brown' people, are you going to try to bring back slavery? Segregation?

I read this story, and wondered how many posts it would take before the "flag waiving neanderthal" crowd arrived. Didn't have to wait long.

Understand this clearly.... the kids chanting USA at this game were wrong. The apology was in order. The banning from future games is appropriate.

If you believe these little pricks were being patriotic, I have a bridge across the Red River I can sell you as soon as you get your cash from that Nigerian foreign minister you gave your bank account details to.

My family has fought for this country from Saratoga to Saigon, and I promise you that the right to yell "USA" at kids who look a little different was not on the list of things they were defending.

Cassandra - what part of the river did you swim over? Shouting U.S.A., U.S.A. in American is being American. If these Latino, Mexicans don't like hearing Legal U.S. Citizens taking pride in America then the Mexicans and Latinos should leave. The Mexicans and Latinos should be grateful we have a President who refuses to enforce U.S. Law and protect our borders. There will come a time when U.S. Citizens will do the job our President refuses to do.

The derp is strong in this thread.

Yes, these are all Americans playing other Americans in America. So why chant USA USA USA?

Because the other American team was brown. If you dont see the problem there then your lack of perception is truly impressive.

Here is a real twist to the story, oops so much for the "racist" part, guess they are going to have to come up with a better reason to complain, because some of the chanting students were Hispanic too Funny...

Alamo Heights ISD Superintendent Kevin Brown said he has apologized to SAISD officials. Heights students who were involved in the chanting will not be allowed to attend the Mules’ Class 4A state semifinal game against Dallas Kimball on Thursday.

Brown said some of the Heights students who took part and were disciplined are Hispanic.

http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2012/03/07/racist-cheer-high-school-forced-to-apologize-for-usa-chant-at-basketball-game/

They can try to make the kids minds into mush, but the adults have a right to chant USA all they want. Can't wait until the next game. I dare them to try to arrest people for chanting USA at a basketball game.

Illegals need to go back home. The are not undocumented they are illegal. I guess a bank robber just makes and undocumented withdrawal.

If you are offended because someone chants USA - YOU ARE IN THE WRONG COUNTRY!

I get some satisfaction out of seeing "commonesense" comments get collapsed, or no votes.

If I all I wanted was 'votes' I'd spew vitriole and hatred toward Mexicans, Latinos, immigrants, African Americans, Muslims, gays, and others...

just like the rest of the POLITCALLY CORRECT crowd here.

And then I'd make up a story about how some gay black guy did something wrong 200 miles from where I live and use that as an excuse for my 'patriotic' assault on the US Constitution and the principles enshrined in the Declaration of Independence and the teachings of Jesus.

Janstince, I owe you an apology. I am sorry for what I wrote, and I hope you will find it in your heart to forgive me, if not right now, then maybe later.

Also, did anybody else notice the irony? The mostly white team is from Alamo HS, the mostly latino team is from Edison HS.

Eh? No? Bummer.

Ryan

Those USA chants were clearly intended to say "We are Americans and you are not". The chants were not patriotic, they were intended to be exclusionary and insulting. Those students made the same erroneous, racist assumption that you did .... to identify those students in the other school as illegals based solely on skin color. If you believe that is what patriotism is all about YOU ARE IN THE WRONG COUNTRY!

Are there really adults too dense to figure out that those brats were insulting the other high school, pointedly, since both are US schools??

JoeB - my relative were here in the 1600s - BEFORE the Revolution, which they fought in, AND my ancestors fought in the Civil War, for the WINNERS, the Union - except for the non-violent famous Quaker Abolitionists, who had their own job to do.
JoeB - where do you live that you would shoot people... obviously a criminal sort, not a true American by any means. Thank GOD that I live in a decent state now, CA. It's not perfect, but it's gotta be a helluva lot better than yours.

OBAMA 2012

The reason this was racist is that the fans from the white school chanted USA; therefore implying that their team was competing against a high school team from another country. The other team has a majority of Hispanic kids so the chant USA was to imply that the other team was made up of NON-Americans. This isn't PC police stuff, it's just dumb and demeaning. Apparently the coach of the white team understood the chant was wrong and quieted the fans down.

Why can't you conservatives read something and absorb information and facts? Time and time again you show that you are the most unintelligent people in our society. Please read the article again.

It is good to see that the official of the Alamo school knows clearly what so many posters on this sight do not. The chant was to imply that the other students were not Americans and was beyond insulting - it was unAmerican. Thankfully the school official is teaching his students to be better people than many of those on this sight. It's appalling that you don't find the problem here and some of you are raising children. Hopefully they will have a teacher/principal who will teach them better than you are.

Ryan in Texas - NOWHERE does it say the other students were illegal - just that they were of hispanic heritage. And, if you're not 100% native American, you're an immigrant too.

Illegals need to go back home. The are not undocumented they are illegal. I guess a bank robber just makes and undocumented withdrawal.

You live in Texas, so I assume you know at least some illegal aliens. How many have you ever heard of who play varsity basketball?

If you are offended because someone chants USA - YOU ARE IN THE WRONG COUNTRY!

Let's explore this amazing little piece of reasoning. Assume we have a little old Mexican couple who makes their monthly drive from Monterrey to McAllen to go to the mall. While sitting at the food court, they're confronted by the this bunch of dickheads who start chanting "USA"...well...just because they're dickheads.

Now, according to you, every American in the place should snap to with national pride, rather than do the right thing, which is to tell these boys to shut up and behave themselves.

If you think the symbols of American patriotism are to be used for intimidation, racism, or even gloating at a basketball game, you are sorely mistaken.

Commonsense:

"By the way, did you ever visit that amusement park in Arlington called "Six Flags Over Texas"? Pretty cool, huh? Did the treasonous Confederate flag bother you? Spain? Mexico? France?"

I have visited Six Flags, and I do know the significance of the name. To answer your question, these other flags flew over Texas at some point in its history. You determined that I am bothered by the presence of the flags Hispanics fly in Texas. These other flags you mentioned have flown over Texas at times in the past. IN THE PAST. The flags I mentioned are flown currently, every day, for no special occasion, unlike what you mentioned with the example of the British folks flying their flag on British holidays. I don't have an issue with that. I just think if you move to a country as your new homeland, it is not unreasonable to think that flying flags from your previous country is a bit of an affront to the new country who is giving you so much. I wouldn't think of flying my American flag constantly in the face of my neighbors if I were to move to another country. Patriotism can exist in one's heart without flying your flag all over the place.

And please don't make rude assumptions about my intellect or lack thereof, in your estimation. That is not helpful to a discussion.

AGAIN FOR THOSE STILL CRYING RACISM PLEASE TAKE TIME TO LOOK AT THE NBC STORY AND REALIZE THAT SOME OF THE STUDENTS DOING THE CHANTING WERE HISPANIC AS WELL, SO NOT RACISM AT ALL.

This is too funny, GCHD

Why can't you conservatives read something and absorb information and facts? Time and time again you show that you are the most unintelligent people in our society. Please read the article again.

Me thinks you dos protest too much.

Brown said some of the Heights students who took part and were disciplined are Hispanic.

So what?

That doesn't make it okay. You seem to fail to grasp the fact that ethnicity is not what's important.

If you are offended because someone chants ... YOU ARE IN THE WRONG COUNTRY!

That's what they said about playing Dixie, too. It was all about 'heritage'.

Sure it was.

the Mexicans and Latinos should leave. The Mexicans and Latinos should be grateful we have a President who refuses to enforce U.S. Law

It is not against the law to be Latino.

Duhhhh...

we shoot people

First you make up a lie about people burning and destroying the flag (it never happened) and then you say it was Latinos who did it, and they you say you shoot people who desecrate the flag.

Before you go postal on everybody, do you really want to spend the rest of your life in a jail cell because of an imaginary incident?

Sounds like you need professional help. Please contact a clergyman or a psychiatrist or both.

Threatening to murder people is not a joke.

Janstince and commonsence, you really need to get out more and see how things really are.

There's nothing wrong with a "USA" chant. Unless the chant is directed at some Americans of Hispanic descent to taunt them for not being "real" Americans like white people. But taunting people for not being white is "politically correct" for right wing racists and xenophobes.

Beam me up, Scotty....There's no intelligent life down in Texas.

That doesn't make it okay. You seem to fail to grasp the fact that ethnicity is not what's important.

WHAT, that is the very basis of your stance on this story, racism, the facts of the story point out that it was not racism after all. So your whole argument falls apart.

Just like the left to ignore the facts when it doesn't suit them.

There's nothing wrong with a "USA" chant. Unless the chant is directed at some Americans of Hispanic descent to taunt them for not being "real" Americans like white people. But taunting people for not being white is "politically correct" for right wing racists and xenophobes.

It was not racism, some of the students doing the chanting were of Hispanic descent, ignore the facts all you want but it doesn't change them.

What the hell? When did it become a crime to chant USA? It must have been at the same time that being in this country illegally wasn't a crime. Some much for freedom of expression! This was a right granted in the Constitution that somehow has no meaning in a country that has become controlled by out of control liberalism. Everybody and everything has rights except those that disagree. Somebody needs to stand up to the libs and F you!

I wouldn't think of flying my American flag ... if I were to move to another country.

Why not? Most people around the world aren't silly enough to be offended by it even if you did.

Nazi flag? That's offensive.

American flag? Not offensive.

Mexican flag, Canadian flag, Ethiopian flag, Chinese flag? Not offensive.

white, Christian, conservative, and heterosexual.

Check, check, check, check.

By the way, being a bigot is NOT a "conservative" value, and never has been (at least not since Jesus was born), except for maybe in the old Confederate States of America. But those CSA 'conservatives' were traitors, guilty of treason and sedition in addition to racialism.

Robbob:

It was not racism, some of the students doing the chanting were of Hispanic descent, ignore the facts all you want but it doesn't change them.

You seem to be making up your own facts to suit you. You know very well that nobody would have been chanting "USA" if the opposing team had been predominantly white, but you pretend NOT to know that. People who do that are referred to as Know-Nothings.

this is not a racist school just cowards for not defending it's own country .

You forgot a flag. The Confederate flag that still flies over some Southern state capitals. That's definitely in the offensive category. You can pretend that flying the slavery flag is "politically incorrect," but you admit that the CSA "conservatives flew that flag were traitors. So are the people who still want to wave it in the face of black people.

Commonsense....

I would find your declaration on behalf of the country's conservatives to be a touch more credible if the supposedly conservative politicians actually represented the values of which you speak, and proved their belief in such values with their actions. I guess that such things as this prove that truly nothing can be said about politics that has not ALREADY been said about hemorrhoids.

Houston take a little time and read the article on NBC and you will see that some of the students doing the chanting were Hispanic those are the facts, the fact that several on here continue to ignore this is just too funny.

http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2012/03/07/racist-cheer-high-school-forced-to-apologize-for-usa-chant-at-basketball-game/

Again, IF YOU ARE OFFENDED BY "USA" YOU ARE IN THE WRONG COUNTRY.

That is pretty basic, and if you don't get that, well you poor thing how do you even work a computer?

You see it not the problem of the people chanting it. It's the people offended by it. They know good and well they don't love this country. Sure, they are here because it's better than where they came from, but beyond that, they have no loyalty.

They root against the US soccer team for example. I didn't say they root for another country which is fine, but they root against the US.

They feel that not having Gov't documents or elections in Spanish is a slight against them.

They don't want the US to enforce it's laws against people coming here illegally. Think about that. We let in 1.5 million legal immigrants a year. That is a huge number, but they want there to be no number we can pick and enforce. Why?

The only way you get offended by hearing USA chanted is if you or your community has PROVEN not to be true melting pot Americans. If you really don't have loyalty to the US foremost.

(Oh, and Canadians and Mexicans do not call themselves Americans).

You can't offend me by chanting "lower taxes" "less regulations" "Constitution rules" or other things I really like.

It isn't possible to be offended by people chanting something you like.

It is possible to be offended when you are caught in your own hypocrisy. It is possible to be offended when people in your community have shown themselves to be less than loyal to this country.

ANd the fact that hispanics were chanting USA on the winning side simply proves that it isn't offensive. And we didn't hear the other side join the chant - which is what I would have done.

But of course I believe in America first.

ANd I can say that as a native American and a native Texan. Oh, wait - now you want to define me by some country I don't hold as my "HOME" country.

See I don't play that game. There is nothing that comes first before I call myself an American.

I'm not a MEXICAN american or an CUBAN american - I am an AMERICAN.

And we can chant USA all day long. If you don't like it, go back to the place you call your "home" country.

Ryan

People like you with exclusionary attitudes and who justify bad behavior diminish the quality of MY COUNTRY, but we do have free speech and your right to be obnoxious shall not be denied.

Calling the chant "USA! USA!" racist is absolute horse pucky. Plane and simple. The Coach that silenced them, the official that banned them from further games and the people who filed a complaint should all humbly apologize. This is just stupid. Unbelievable.

That chant is extremely common. It's used all the time.

@Ryan

Well spoken, sir. Now if only Rush Limbaugh would go back to whatever world deems what he does to be intelligent discorse....or entertaining.

commonsense....less
it has and does happen.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Students-Wearing-American-Flag-Shirts-Sent-Home-92945969.html

this story raised the hair on my neck!!
the kids wore shirts with american flags on may 5, better known as cinco de mayo.

This story and the one from 2010 are both good examples of why the line needs to be drawn by the gov't. Get it over with already! You cannot cater to the heritage of one group, while ignoring the fact that there are other nationalities and/or minorities in this country that don't get that special treatment. I am German-American. Do you think anyone on the basketball team would have started shouting "Deutschland! Deutschland!" and gotten in trouble? People would have been confused, but not offended. Do you think any students would have been sent home during Oktoberfest for wearing an American flag T-shirt? What's more, do you think anyone would have gotten in trouble for wearing a German flag t-shirt on Cinco de Mayo?

The answer to all 3 is "no", because no one seems to show any regard for any nationality that isn't from just over the border these days, whether it's positive or negative attention.

It is time to address the need for reform and stop this stupid tension once and for all. End the tolerance for illegal immigration, acknowledge Cinco de Mayo just like we do St Patty's Day, and no more special classes teaching Hispanic culture unless it's a college course or they start teaching African American & Asian American studies in public schools too. Fair is fair!!

Admit it: If no one's citizenship could ever be called into question, then no one would have bothered shouting "USA, USA!".

@TuffGong

Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally liberals support ideas such as constitutionalism, liberal democracy, free and fair elections, human rights, capitalism, and the free exercise of religion.

Wow. best laugh I've had all day!

Let's put this right:

Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally liberals support ideas such as Communism, liberal control, free and fair elections(unless their opponent wins, then they must have stolen the election so we have to recount 50 times and then when we still lose we sue), human rights (for everyone who agrees with us), Socialism, and the free exercise of any religion except Christianity.

@MrEd

The irony of what you say is that it comes from the same side of the fence as the allegations that our current president was born in Kenya, and from people who will remove their own appendixes with nothing but a straight razor, some gauze, and a bottle of scotch before just admitting that they are wrong on that count.

There's something more to this story that isn't being reported and, if it were, many of the comments here would be retracted. It would not surprise me that MSNBC is not reporting an aspect that would make the whole incident much clearer.

There's a charter school in the LA area that is run by a member of La Raza and its entire focus is on Mexico, its history, the theft of the Southwest by the U.S., taking it back, etc.

There was an incident in the last year where three young men wore USA oriented/flag T-shirts to school and they were told to either turn them inside-out or they would be sent home. The reason......the staff didn't want to upset the large Hispanic population of the school.

During the initial protests of Arizona's law allowing the checking of citizenship numerous, NUMEROUS pictures were published and news reports shown where large numbers of the protesting crowd where waving the flag of Mexico and not the USA.

As I said, there's more to this incident than has been reported. Ongoing friction between the schools, heavy emphasis at Edison on Mexican images and ideals, gang rivalries, etc. Until people who were directly involved in this incident contribute what the basis for the chanting was most of the comments here, pro and con, are nothing more than speculation.

@Just Someone

That is/was a small minority of people who made a lot of noise, not the majority of the Right Wing.

He's not ???

USA? Or 'You esse'? The latter could be considered a racial slur. Am I the only one who thought of this?

Seeking Sanity,

Ryan in Texas - NOWHERE does it say the other students were illegal - just that they were of Hispanic heritage. And, if you're not 100% native American, you're an immigrant too.

No, I'm not an immigrant. I was born here. Look up the definition of immigrant, would you please? And before you make a point about my ancestors, save it. You can't apply the term "illegal immigrant" to a situation where a law didn't exist yet. Unless my ancestors skipped over Ellis Island or never applied for citizenship when it was the law to do so then they came here following the rules that were on the books at that time. I don't think ICE was there to meet the folks on the Mayflower. And that would be the only way your twisted theories would ever work.

So when the National Anthem was played before the game, was that racist?

Just someone,

I said that I AM conservative. I wouldn't say that of many politicians who claim to be conservative these days.

Time was, believing that "all men are created equal" and "endowed by their Creator" with certain "unalienable rights" was a conservative belief.

Look at the crackpots who claim that Latinos are somehow 'less' American or 'less' human than the rest of us. Are THEY conservative? Not according to the Founding Fathers who penned and signed the Declaration of Independence.

Look at Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum. They want to keep in place unreasonable restrictions on immigration, even though the Declaration of Independence CONDEMNS the King of England as a TYRANT for doing the exact same thing. Again, are THEY conservative vis-a-vis the Declaration of Independence, or am I? I say that I AM and they are phonies.

There were NO restirctions on immigration from anywhere in the western hemisphere until 1965.

The Bible Rmeny and Santorum profess to believe in says that the "alien" among us must be treated by the same laws and regarded as our equal in all matters, and treated with justice. Those rules are 5,000 years old. Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum disagree, so who's conservative? Again, I say I AM and they are not.

Rush Limbaugh isn't conservative; he's a drug addled college dropout who makes $45 million a year by inciting one set of Americans to hate other Americans. It is hugely POPULAR, but it isn't CONSERVATIVE. The rallying cry during the Revolutionary War was "United We Stand", not "your skin is too dark for me to respect you".

I don't think ICE was there to meet the folks on the Mayflower. And that would be the only way your twisted theories would ever work

If your ancestors came over on the Mayflower, their survival was dependent on those already here, who "welcomed the stranger", as Jesus commanded all of us to do, at the risk of eternal damnation for non-compliance (see Matthew 25:31-46).

To refuse to extend the same hand of friendship to those who come here seeking to build a new life, dishonors the memory and the sacrifices of the Pilgrims on the Mayflower and those who welcomed them. It is not what they would have wanted. And it is certainly not 'conservative' or patriotic.

@Commonsense...

I'm fairly certain that for their time, the people who practically INVENTED the phrase "all men are created equal" were incredibly radical and freewheeling, since what they were rebelling against was the very tyranny that you mentioned, and that very tyranny had been the norm for centuries before then. The concept has since been around long enough to seem exclusively conservative by modern standards.

There's a charter school in the LA area that is run by a member of La Raza and its entire focus is on Mexico, its history, the theft of the Southwest by the U.S., taking it back, etc.

Hogwash. There is no school anywhere in the US (or Mexico) that has it's 'focus' on 'taking back' the southwestern US and making it part of Mexico.

And La Raza, like the NAACP, is an organization dedicated to seeing people of ALL ethnicities treated EQUALLY. It is NOT a bigoted organization like the KKK, the Aryan Brotherhood, the National Socialist Movement, EAURO, or any of the other 'white' supremecist groups.

Can you understand the difference between an organization dedicated to one ethnic group being granted superior legal status at the expense of others and an organization dedicated to equal treatment for all, or is that just too 'foreign' to your way of thinking?

Quit trying to foment ethnic hatred. Quit trying to divide Americans.

And start getting to know people of different backgrounds. OUTSIDE of a prison.

@Commonsense (again)

BTW: I consider myself a political independent, but I am thrilled to see someone on either side of the spectrum wear that standard of honor on their sleeves and practice what they preach.

And yet when passing every City of Chicago City College and many Chicago public schools I see they fly the Pan African Tri-color Flag. That doesn't say "Hey whitey, Welcome come on in!" But public schools all over can't fly the Confederate battle flag!. Not even Thorton Fractional SOUTH!

Just Someone, re: post #1.118, Agreed.

These were radical ideas for the times (and were in fact called "liberal" as they still would be in many parts of the world), but they are also the principles upon which our great nation was founded, and were very much key to our successes over the past 250 years. To me, that means they should be considered 'conservative' from an American point of view. And certainly no less celebrated Republican politician than Abraham Lincoln embraced them, as did Teddy Roosevelt, Ulysses S. Grant, and others.

But Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, Jan Brewer, Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, and the rest of the clowns want nothing to do with it, any more than J. T. Ready or Kurt Kobach do. Nor do any of them seem to care about fiscal responsibility, which also used to be considered a 'conservative' and Republican ideal, as espoused by them up until sometime between 1980 and 2000, depending on whether you consider Ronald Reagan's tripling of the national debt to be an honest mistake. Certainly the Republican Congress in 2001 knew what it was doing when it set about doubling the national debt, deliberately turning a federal budget surplus into a massive deficit during good times. So much for saving up for a rainy day, like the one the GOP created.

Sarah, those babies you are calling insulting names and attempting to rob of their birthrights are American citizens.

Claiming that your husband is Hispanic does not give you the right to abuse infants. And the Constitution of the United States of America is the supreme law of the law, whether you like it or not.

Hands off my Constitutional rights. And stop picking on defenseless babies. They are as pure and innocent as the driven snow, and were created by God. If you don't like his handiwork, take it up with him.

Attacking babies is DISGUSTING. Please stop abusing children; emotional abuse is often more damaging than physical abuse.

Alamo Heights Superintendent Kevin Brown is an idiot for apologizing and San Antonio Independent School District officials are idiots for filing a complaint.

Why was Saxon's comment collapsed? I don't understand. He / She made a very good point. We are told to apologize just for breathing, and being American.

BUT, with that being said I don't quite understand how this could be racist? Both are from schools within the U.S. borders, and I imagine they're all U.S. citizens. So, I just don't get it. If I'm not mistaken the land of America is made up of a diverse culture. Different races, different religions, different ways of life. These are what makes America, AMERICA.

Until we hear why the students really started chanting that, let's not throw too many stones, okay? But this drop at the hate apologizing over every little hiccup is getting to be annoying!

What they need to do is fire the school administrator that blew this out of proportion. Let me guess the school administrator is Hispanic. Perhaps before any school is allowed to compete each and every athlete has to prove they are a citizen of the United states. I suspect the chant USA was because everyone knew the other team were mostly illegals

For me, the big takeaway from stories (and the comments they inspire) like this is that it appears that 'race relations' in the US have reached their zenith. I fear that once we get to a white/latino/black racial makeup of something like 42/42/16 the balkanization of the states won't be that far behind.

In this context, of course it's racist. Duh.

Chanting "U-S-A! U-S-A!" when playing a team from another country is one thing - I've done that myself when rooting for the US team in the World Cup. That's plain patriotism and showing pride in country and trying to give your guys a boost by showing them support and all that stuff fans are supposed to do.

These kids were chanting it against kids, predominately of Latino descent, from another American school. Obvious intent was to say that these other kids aren't American - as if they have some monopoly on Americanism. Wake up - it's been a while since being white was a prerequisite for being American :D

Commonsense:

Please do not refer to me as someone who abuses children. I find you to be very aggressive with everyone who has commented on this story. First you called me a bigot, and now a child abuser. I am neither of those things. I believe civil discussions can be had about this and any subject, but your fondness for name calling is not helpful. I found some of your insights on this topic interesting and thought provoking, right up to the point where you began calling me names. I have not done this to you, regardless of what I may think of your opinions. I think you will find folks more receptive to your viewpoints if you choose to keep it civil. I take great offense at your accusations of me, and find them completely unnecessary.

NyNy

Don't tell me that it is not obvious to you that the "white" school was using the "USA" chant to tell the "Hispanic" school that "we are Americans and you are not". The chant was intended as an insult and in spite of all of the conservative rants that this was "patriotic" it was nothing of the sort. The chant was exclusionary and the administration was completely right to stop it. You are right when you say that we are a diverse culture, but that chanting was not celebrating diversity .... it was doing something quite the opposite.

If you don't understand the very obvious intent of those chants you are not paying attention.

We do not have to "apologize for being American" but we can try to be good Americans. Those school children were not being good Americans. It's a shame that adults like you encourage them.

don one problem with your post as you were not paying attention so lets try this again.

SOME OF THE STUDENTS DOING THE CHANTING WERE HISPANIC, so the racism angle is GONE GONE GONE. It can't be racism if the people doing the chanting are the same race as those who were supposedly targeted.

There was obviously some other reason why they were chanting USA USA USA, either way tough.

Hey common no sense,

Most of your posts indicate you live in a taco. Your ignorance is indicative of someone who has no clue as to what is going on in this country.

As far as your response to my post regarding the charter school in LA and its racist head master - just Google Los Angles charter school La Raza. Seeing as how you may be incapable of finding available information let me give you just ONE of the many entries: http://www.wnd.com/2006/06/36428/

Next time you think you're capable of challenging one of my comments, take a break, count to a trillion and then repeat the process. Short answer.......you don't have the ability.

Please do not refer to me as someone who abuses children.

Then stop abusing innocent babies by calling them names, inciting others to do the same, and clamoring for them to be denied their Constitutional rights as American citizens.

Anti, your vitriolic post bears very little resemblence to the truth.

The school you seem to be talking about is called Academia Semillas del Pueblo Xinaxcalmecac

You can read about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academia_Semillas_del_Pueblo

In May 2006, radio host Doug McIntyre stated that he believed that the school was "racist" and had a "separatist agenda" attached to the "reconquista" movement....

The school subsequently filed a slander lawsuit against McIntyre, because

McIntyre created “racist fury against Latino school children, teachers, administrators and staff at the school” and "targeted the school for destruction because the children were Latino...."

To me, your posts sound a lot like what McIntyre was accused of trying to do.

I might not have the ability to make you look objectively at your own malicious disparagement of millions of people based on nothing more than your own personal prejudices about their ethnic heritage, but I do have the 'ability' to challenge the validity of such a vile world view, and have just done so.

I referred to them as "anchor babies," which is not a term I made up. It has been used in the media, and actually, I first heard it from a young man I worked with, who is here in this country illegally, and explained the whole concept of having his children here in order to attempt to stay. Where in my comment did I call for children born here to be denied their Constitutional rights? And you also mentioned that I should keep my hands off of your rights, as well. In what way have I attempted to deny you any of your Constitutional rights?

commonsense -

Appreciate the apology, but just prefer you to not tone troll me, or anyone, really. Tone trolling is worse than sarcasm as a resort of the desperate. It betrays that the speaker believes the argument is weak, or that the listeners are unable to parse bad language, or that the speaker believes the author is an uneducated moron for not using "proper words." I say, if the words aren't proper, why the @!$%# were they invented? And I particularly find "foul language" useful when excoriating racists, sexists, homophobes, creationists, and other idiots, to express the disrespect I have for their ideas and ideologies (two distinct things), and to hopefully shock them enough to realize they have a problem, and it lies between their ears.

I do applaud you continuing to come back and point out the racism to these racist jackasses. I gave up after I went home for the day, mostly because I'm pretty sure these people won't change their minds (I'll leave off on why that is in case the pearl-clutchers don't have a fainting couch nearby). But kudos to you.

Lackofcommonsense-

Europeans where in the Americas 10,000 years before indians crossed the land bridges. They ended up
getting wiped out due to only sailing over the Atlantic in small numbers verses the masses that walked. See the Discovery channels youtube ICE AGE COLUMBUS.

The hispanics that where in CA-TX when the nation was founded where of Spainish(from spain) decent.At the time of Texas independence, there were only about 20,000 Mexicans living in ALL the territory between Texas AND California, and most of those were white descendants of Spaniards. They pretty all assimilated in a generation or two.

The Mexicans and their American born children in Texas (Tejanos as they seem to like to be called) are
pretty much all recent immigrants going back no more than 2-3 generations, with most being first generation immigrants) so no one can truthfully make calls to some long ago ancestral rights. A man from the Yucatan or elsewhere who climbs over the border fence ten years ago and has 3-4 babies has no special claim on any part of the U.S. of A. The group Laraza claims the entire southwest for mexicans.

By the way, Mexico only controlled the land from Texas to California for about 20 years, and only because they inherited from spain at independence.

Europeans where in the Americas 10,000 years before indians

What does that have to do with the price of eggs in China?

The group Laraza claims the entire southwest for mexicans.

That's just crazy talk. It isn't true.

To read about what the National Council of La Raza actually stands for, click on the link below:

http://www.nclr.org/index.php/about_us/faqs/the_truth_about_nclr/

Why so many "Collapsed By the Community". Many of them did not break any rules, just stated an opinion about the article.

By the way, How does the community collaps a post? Really, I have no idea.

Lackofcommonsense- Europeans sailing to the US 10,000years before american indians has to do with claims they belong here.

Maybe you should check out the KKK webpage and see what they actually stand for it will probably be closer to the truth than laraza site is. They couldnt get citizens taxpayer money if they put there politics out for free.National Council of La Raza succeeded in raking in over $15.2 million in federal grants last year alone, of which $7.9 million was in U.S. Department of Education grants for Charter Schools, and undisclosed amounts were for get-out-the-vote efforts supporting La Raza political positions.

The Council of La Raza succeeded in having itself added to congressional hearings by Republican House and Senate leaders. And an anonymous senator even gave the Council of La Raza an extra $4 million in earmarked taxpayer money, supposedly for "housing reform," while La Raza continues to lobby the Senate for virtual open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens.

"Chicano is our identity; it defines who we are as people. It rejects the notion that we...should assimilate into the Anglo-American melting pot...Aztlan was the legendary homeland of the Aztecas ... It became synonymous with the vast territories of the Southwest, brutally stolen from a Mexican people marginalized and betrayed by the hostile custodians of the Manifest Destiny." (Statement on University of Oregon MEChA Website, Jan. 3, 2006)

Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. ... We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan. For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada."
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=13863

Lackof commonsense- how much does george soros pay to to post? I am working evening shift so I wont be able to talk much longer. Someone has to be in the 1/2 of americans that pay taxes to feed the monkeys.

Robbob

It is very easy to figure out what was going on with the chants, and it does not matter that there were Hispanic students at the white school. (It's pretty difficult to imagine a high school in Texas that does not have at least a few Hispanic students.) The participation of some Hispanic students certainly does not excuse the insulting behavior.

Focus on the INTENT of the "USA" chant. The very clear intent is that "we are Americans and you are not." The chants were not patriotic, as some people commenting on this thread would like us to believe (How dumb would a person have to be to believe that?). The chants were INTENDED to be insulting to the other school.

My post #1.131 did not, as you accused, call the chants "racism." I said the chants were intended to be exclusionary and that they are not in the spirit of diversity. If you want to defend the actions of those students, go ahead, but you are not acting in the spirit of a healthy America when you do.

What's REALLY HI-LARIOUS is the fact that, although we are all so terribly worried about our freedom of speech, about half the comments in this thread have been "collapsed by the community."

Free speech is for EVERYONE, y'all, not just the people who don't pi$$ you off.

geegeeburr

Part of free speech is expressing an opinion about others' free speech, such as labeling it as "No Value" or "Inflammatory". A lot of comments on this thread fit very well into one of those categories and it is not surprising that they are collapsed.

Free speech is a right. Disagreeing with the opinions of others is part of that right.

Oh my god, oh my god! You guys, what the hell! I am shocked by these comments, from the right AND the left. I am really, truly ashamed. DID YOU NOT READ THE ARTICLE?! It was a team of MOSTLY WHITE teens playing against a school of MOSTLY HISPANIC teens. After they won, the white team cheered USA USA at the hispanic kids. ...WHO WERE AMERICAN. I am sorry for using all caps, but I am just really shocked at this response. Usually there's a balance of one side and the other side, but it looks like all of you skimmed the article and came here to rant without the actual details. This is SO clearly racist! Are you kidding? Of course we have the right to cheer USA USA in our country, but when the context is CLEARLY inappropriate, you have to call it like it is. Saying that "technically" USA USA isn't an offensive chant on its own is obnoxious. You can't take everything at face value. In this case context matters. Also, as someone who has only recently left the teenage years, I can say that there is no reason AT. ALL. that high school teenagers would chant USA at a normal high school game. Against another country, sure, but not another American team. Jeez.

God forbid when folks chant U-S-A at the Olympics this year.

The question should be: Why didn't the other team join in with chanting U-S-A? Any particular reason they chose not to do so?

PS - Gang-collapsing comments over this? Really?

Don, I know what free speeh is supposed to be about, as opposed to many on here, apparently. I looked at all of the collapsed comments above, and seriously? Only 5 of them were inflammatory, or having no value, with 2 others being borderline.

Certainly, "no value" is subjective, but I would define "having no value" as something like "making no attempt to contribute to the disussion at hand." My comment really is intended to address the fact that a lot of people seem to think that "having no value" is the same thing as "disagrees with me."

There's supposed to be room, in our country, for everyone's views to be heard. But some people are so dead-set against hearing another point of view that they can't even stand for that point of view to be visible. One of the things that we used to be proud of was that dissenting voices were not silenced. WERE. It's sad.

formerstew

Do you really not get the difference? "USA" is chanted at the Olympics because the USA is our team. It works because we are USA and the other team is not. When the high school students used the USA cheer their intent was the same: "we are USA and you are not". The problem is that the Hispanic school is USA and therefore the chant was INTENDED to be insulting ..... and it was.

Steve, I actually agree with most of your posts and find Commonsense to be more racist than what he claims caucasians to be, but that last comment was really offensive. Please don't negate all of your good points by using the same offensive terms that have fueled the hate between nationalities. Personally, I grew up in the midwest where patriotism is taken very seriously. When I moved to California 20 years ago, I was completely taken aback by the lack of it here on the west coast. People don't stand for the National Anthem or waive the American flag on Independence Day, but if there is any sporting match between the USA and Mexico, it seems that the latin-"Americans" will enthusiastically sing the Mexican national anthem and waive the Mexican flag. I am not a racist, but am very disappointed in the lack of patriotism existing among some of the people who fled their home country for a better life in a foregn country and then show that country no loyalty and no respect. A little pride for the country you have chosen as your home would be appreciated.

Good god that NOCOMMONSENSe is a full 1/3 of all the posts. I saw someone said he was getting paid to post how do you get in on that deal? Why was the "alamo whites" chant not racist. Illegal is not a race but if you look at prison populations you can see there is a connection.

Funny looking at the Texas 10 most wanted fugitives page all the mexicans are listed as white, so if mexicans are white when they commit crimes how can this be racist?

Do you really not get the difference?

I understand your point, don. But here is the thing: I see no difference in the two schools, but you do. This was indicated by your term 'Hispanic school'.

And therein lies the problem.

formerstew

Did you read the article? It clearly stated that one high school was predominantly white and the other predominantly Hispanic.

Alamo Heights High School, which is made up mostly of white students, beat Edison High, which is predominantly Hispanic

The racial difference between the two schools was the primary reason why the behavior of those students was so wrong. And therein certainly does lie the problem.

Tyler/Sally; who the heck is monitoring this site, look at the amount of collapsed, that just state real facts, that some one disagrees with, this is getting very weird.

Don- are you willing to accept as one poster and another news agency pointed out that the chant was directed at a member of the armed forces that had just returned from active duty, this is a very real possibility and would fit better with the fact that Hispanic students were also cheering. It fits a lot better than the idea of Hispanic students chanting against other Hispanic students which makes no sense, but then those who are crying racism would loose their reason to complain.

Robby

I call BS. The school administration would not be upset with a patriotic chant. You can believe the spin from "one poster and another news agency (FOX?), but I need a lot more evidence to buy that line of ......

All I'm saying in light of the fact that Hispanic students were part of the group that were chanting it makes more sense than the idea of racism, most groups don't tend to promote racism against their own people as a rule of thumb. There is a lot more to this story than what MSNBC put out, even NBC managed to add the fact that hispanic students were involved while MSNBC left out this fact, again just to start something from nothing as they have done so many times in the past.

Don't start none and there won't be none, plus there is only one race the Human Race. Just too many people looking to be offended at the drop of the hat.

Robbob

The students at the "white" school INTENDED to offend the students at the other school. Why don't you start there with your "constructive" comments.

Robbob, there is room for plenty of different starting places...

January 23, 2007 Baraboo High School bans the "U.S.A., U.S.A." chant. It's considered an obscenity:

The "U.S.A." some of the students were chanting stands for a three-word insult, an unsporting acronym the first letter of which stands for "You."
Fans at athletic events have been trying to sneak a few such cheers with double meanings past officials, leading administrators to tighten enforcement of WIAA rules and causing some students and parents to wonder what's wrong with a little team spirit.

So, kids, if there is something you don't like, make up a second meaning for it, pass it around, have a few laughs, and make the adults go nuts and ban it.

EnglishLass

As Americans, we have to set the example and we have to set the bar high. This is why they are punished. Being American is not only being tolerant of others, but being humble about it.

They were chanting USA even though the other kids were from the US, but rather had the precieved origin of outside the US - quite clearly making it racist. In other words, the chant was not about some international competition, but about - precisely - the race of the other US students!

If they were playing a team that was flown in from Guatemala, then yeah, it's an international competition, so celbrating your side is logical. But, in this case, they were taunting an illegitamately precieved difference.

As an American, I won't tolerate this country's youth standing for anything less than fairness and understanding.

Don-the problem is you are the one who is promoting racism by saying "white school" when in fact part of that school is hispanic and it was some of those hispanic students involved in the chant, so unless you want to continue to ignore these facts to continue your racism then you should take time to look into the rest of the story. Doubt that that will happen as it doesn't fit with those that want to look for any reason to be offended.

Where would you stand on the issue if it was the other teams fans who had started the confrontation by chanting something offensive to begin with?

Robbob

I would expect that the administrators of the other team's school to stop the offensive chant, just as the Alamo administration did. It was the right thing to do.

You continue to ignore the fact that the intention of the chant was to indicate that "WE ARE USA AND YOU ARE NOT". That is insulting to those AMERICAN students at the other school and stopping the chant was the proper action.

You also continue to emphasize that there are Hispanic students at both schools. It doesn't make any difference. The chant was intended to indicate that the other school was not of the USA. It was wrong. It was stopped. An example of school administration doing the right thing.

Right on,Robbob........

If the other team won, and chanted, : "Mexico--Mexico" there would probably have been bloodshed in the parking lot.......this was an intentional affront and an inflamatory provocation.

An addendum to my post 1.16

Since new information became available, I would point out that the Hispanic spectators first began chanting "Alamo White", a common slur against Caucasians used in the region. To their credit, the white kids didn't respond in kind with any slurs of their own but chanted "USA". The socialist school leaders chose to ignore the Hispanic slur and punish the white kids.

I should have added: They lost the game and are NOW trying to win by getting the other team disqualified; What a nasty low down thing to do.

The San Antonio district on Tuesday also filed a complaint with the University Interscholastic League, the governing body of high school sports in the area.

Roger That. What the heck?

We cant be proud of the United States of America ?

BIOYA. Fly the American flag and yell out, USA, USA, USA all you want to..

I say.

Yeah, Foxtrot3 the whiners! How Ridiculous! Or is it that the Hispanic Kids Identify with Mexico SO much that they are ashamed of being associated withy this country????

It's not racist to be proud to be an American, but it IS racist and ethnocentric to assume that a predominantly Latino school has no US Citizens on the basketball team.

Can anyone honestly think that if a predominantly white school beat another predominately white school that the winner would chant "USA, USA"?

I'll submit to the fact that some people cry racism when none exists, but there are times like these when it just is what it is.

I think the Alamo Heights superintendent is making the right decision here. I'm also proud of their coach for stopping this nonsense.

It is just another example of how LaRaza is grooming us for the Mexican take over. The Mexican invasion is complete and has been facilitated by events just like this. Mexicans teach their children that what we think of as the southwest US actually belongs to Mexico. They are also teaching their children to hate anyone living in the southwest US who is not of Mexican descent (see Arizona's closure of the Mexican ethnic studies program). The Mexicans living in the US and LaRaza are now poised to take over the southwestern US. They are demanding the return of del norte or Aztlan to the Mexican people. With 20 million Mexicans living in the US illegally, LaRaza is looking forward to a political take over in the next ten years. With Mexican politicians in place they will begin the transfer of land and reallocation of wealth to the Mexican hopefuls on the sidelines. Unfortunately for the Mexicans on the sideline, Mexican culture is a criminal culture and like their fathers before them the new rulers will betray them as well. Learn to say ola' to your new neighbors.

Aren't BOTH schools in the USA?

Don't believe me??? Look at all of the comments above and below that have been collapsed! They are well organized and ready to respond as any army would.

As our Republican/Tea Party leads us that's the way we go and hate/racism/womanizing is now accepted and spilled by adults, Law Makers and others who hold titles. Today only Republican/Tea Party supporters are Americans and others aren't. Our braved dead soldiers of all races are meaningless and young people are being taught hate/racism because no one is born with it.

Let me encourage each of you that feels that this is unjust to write and or call both the San Antonio School Dristrict and the UIL OR I can guarantee you how this will come out!!!

Seen it too many tiimes. I can barely understand the women working the front desk at my kids High School and I am in West Texas NOT San Antonio.

Before we fully condemn the Alamo team, can someone pull the tape and see if anyone was flying Mexican flags or if the fans were taunting during the game? I think you might be surprised by what else may have happened and what else might be deemed offensive....

I do think it's more of a sore looser item than a "racist" thing. A complaint to the state athletic's board? Come on, you know that it's the school's/coach's way of saying that they unfairly lost the game and "deserve" to go on in the tournament.

How about we keep sports simple, you loose and you walk away and learn from loosing. I will give an exception though- in Boston, MA a school appealed to the state athletic's board because an opposing paent was caught pointing a laser pointer into the eyes of their hockey goalie during the 3rd period of a 1-1 tied state tournament game. The game ended in a 3-1 loss for the team who's goalie had the light in her eyes. The parent was caught and thrown out when it was noticed, but the girl's eyes could have been damaged/effected through the game and beyond. That is a legitimate reason to ask the state for a replay of the 3rd period (what was requested, but denied by the board BTW). They didn't even ask for an unsportsmanlike forfeit of the game by the other team, just a fair chance to win.

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Some years back some people would say, in frustration, I think; "Excuse me for living." There goes my new T-Shirt, buy it now and all money will be donated to:............

jackierawlings - what are you talking about?? the white kids had to apologize to the hispanic kids for chanting "USA". Aren't the hispanic kids supposed to be citizens of the United States if they are attending a school in the United States?

It seems the politically correct bunch feverishly rushed to collapse the first post. Predictable.

bscol

Yes, both schools ARE in the USA ..... and that is the problem with the chants, which were clearly taunts that suggested that the primarily Hispanic school was something other than USA. Do you really not see the real purpose of those "cheers"? Do you think that the students were displaying patriotism? Do you believe the white students were attempting to be inclusive? If so, you really need to think about the motivation for the cheers by those predominantly white students.

Those of you who believe this is a case of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS do not understand the concept of political correctness.

It seems that this thread, too, is populated by racists.

jackierawlings -

One sane voice in a sea of stupidity and hate. Unfortunately, people do have racist tendencies. The effects have been observed in groups of babies that self-identify with others that look like them; the most obvious marker being skin color. That doesn't make it right. Many would take this to mean that the theory of evolution leads to racism and xenophobia, and should therefore not be taught (aka the Naturalist Fallacy). They are, without saying, idiots. But I digress.

Chanting "USA! USA!" is not appropriate in implying that the kids from the other school, because of their skin color, accents, language preference, etc., are not US citizens, and should not be treated with the respect and dignity that citizens deserve. This is, for obvious reasons, incredibly stupid and racist.

And now, the white brigade has come. Did somebody put a link to this on the Stormfront home page or something? I give the pathetic conspiracy theories here about Mexicans sneaking in to return the government of the southwest US to Mexican control the same level of seriousness that I give to Sharia law being declared in the US: @!$%#-all. You realize that most of the people who leave Mexico leave it because the government is ineffective in the war on drugs (which is sustained by US drug policy and guns)? They don't want the Mexican government, they want the US government. That's why they came here. A few fringe lunatics that are trying to claim California and Texas for Mexico? BWAHAHAHAHAH! You idiots will fall for anything.

You white people still don't get it. The rest of us (some whites included) are sick and tired of you thinking you can say and do anything you desire under the cloak of "We're Americans, blah blah blah, etc. That doesn't cut it. Stop teaching your kids these ideas also or they will be in for a rude awakening as adults. If they make it that far.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?????? So anything that can be perceived racist in the slightest way is now fair game for the PC crowd. Good thing the Olympics are not going on, we would be in trouble for chanting it there as well..

Well sort of, it only applies if white people are doing the chanting. See 2.17

If the hispanic kids are legal citizens of the United States, why wouldn't they join in the chant?

USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!

How about a little more info here, was there Mexican flags in the crowd on the other team side, I'd almost lay odds there were., As Joe Friday would always say" Just the facts", all of them.

bscol

When someone insults you and tries to make you feel un-American, do you join in on the insults?

Do you REALLY believe that the white school was being patriotic with their "USA" chant?

Do you fail to understand that the chant was meant to insult the Hispanic students?

Don't you realize that the real message in the chants was "We are American and you are not"?

Is it really that hard to figure out?

Don, no one has ever made me feel un-American. Mainly because I am an American. After spending 8 years in the United States Army, no one could make me feel unpatriotic.

I understand what you are saying, however, I wonder how many of the hispanic kids are actually legal citizens of the United States. I'm betting not many of them were.

In my experience living in a Mexican neighborhood for 4 years, the Mexicans want the US government over their own- because they get welfare and child support court lawyers and everything else they need for free. They want to be MEXICAN before American.

They do not consider themselves American first and Mexican second. If they did, they would not have taken a chant for USA as an insult, but rather chanted in with them, proving that they are AMERICANS first- but that didn't happen did it? They took it as an insult because they do not want to be Americans first. They should be celebrating the fourth of July, but instead celebrate Mexican independence day- whats up with that?

In the office I was working in last year, they decorated the entire place with Mexican banners and dolls and had Mexican foods catered in for Cinco De Mayo, but did nothing for the Fourth of July- nothing, not a decoration or even a hot dog. To top it off,over 95% of the people in the office were not Mexican, but a mixture of many different cultures with the scales tipping largely toward black Americans. Oh and this is outside of Philadelphia- not anywhere near the Mexican border- if that should make a difference to anyone. Why should all of us, who have one common bond- THE USA -have to celebrate a different country's heritage over our own country's?

I am Italian and I fly the American Flag. I am proud of my Italian heritage and the struggles that our family went through to be apart of this country. I am American first. If someday I decide to fly an Italian flag it will be below the American flag...actually it would probably be below the POW MIA flag which would be directly below the American flag.

I chant USA! USA!

To those who complain about collapsed comments, click on the little box - they are not "deleted", they are "collapsed" - read away.

Of course the Alamo Heights school was pointedly trying to insult the other school, it is hard to believe the number of folks who just don't "get" that?? I wish they had started yelling back USA, until they were hoarse, and as they marched upon the other US high school, driving them out of the building as they shouted them down.

And Proud - if you are SO proud, why sit on your @ss and do nothing for July 4th? They were enjoying the Cinco party, like most everyone I know - even Anglos in the southwest - and of course most do not work on July 4th, and it is spent with family/community...but maybe your business does stay open. They did the work for 5-5, you could have organized 7-4.

If those kids were not trying to make a statement, then why were they not chanting the name of their school? Of course they were making a racial statement and it should be stopped, but to be in the news is just wrong.

Just in case some of you missed it you should know that some of the students doing the chanting were HISPANIC, so the whole racist slant is bull.

Even NBC managed to not leave that part of the story out, go figure.

Proud To be an American-510035,

Great post!

No it is not racist, that is not the point at all. The point is that Alamo Heights, a US high school, was chanting USA to taunt another US high school - that is primarily Hispanic- implying they were NOT American. Which is Un-American.

Jeezus, what a week.

So I guess it was Un-American for the Hispanic students who were doing the chanting as well, go figure, lefty logic.

Will somebody please buy the bishop some new tin foil for his hat?

All that invasion, revaunchist, lunacy about a military takeover, not by all Latinos, just the Mexican ones, is merely propaganda being beamed at your noggin from outer space. Or the KKK or Aryan Brotherhood or National Socialist Movement or onandonandon.

But it ISN'T REAL.

The Confederates lost the Civil War 150 years ago. It's too late for a successful comeback now.

Would someone please buy the lefties on this thread some READING GLASSES please.

http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2012/03/07/racist-cheer-high-school-forced-to-apologize-for-usa-chant-at-basketball-game/

Oh Snap, look Hispanic students among those doing the chanting oopsy

And just exactly where did you get all of your rage and hate jackierawlings? It seems you have plenty to go around. Chanting USA in the USA at a sporting event has nothing to do with hate nor has the Tea Party encouraged any hate. They may be able to take a few lessons from you however.

commonsense? strange handle for a LaRaza troll. bragging that there are somewhere between 10 million and 30 million people who have invaded the US and then denying that no one has been organizing them to fulfill the political aspirations of LaRaza makes no sense at all. your repeated name calling (KKK, neo nazi, etc) of anyone who you think is white shows just how limited your understanding of the issues really is. The fact that you are paid by LaRaza to act as an apologist in these forums should be enough to censor your repetitious entries before they are even posted.

Get a grip, bishop.

You know, or SHOULD know, that La Raza is an organization that advocates for equal treatment, just like the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. It does not advocate for the subjugation of Anglos, any more than the NAACP advocates for the subjugation of 'white people'.

Pretending that there is an army of 30 million 'brown people' in America being formed by some nefarious force into a cadre of 'racist' storm troopers to take over the country and enslave 'white people' is fatuous in the extreme.

It's just a paranoid delusion shared by foolish ethnic 'supremecists' to justify their vile prejudices. It has nothing to do with the cruel taunting by a bunch of kids and your delusional fanatasy does not justify unkind behavior in the real world.

how many of the hispanic kids are actually legal citizens of the United States. I'm betting not many of them were.

That type of prejudgement based on ethnic sterotypes in the absence of any confirmatory information is called 'prejudice'. It is the hallmark of bigotry.

If it is okay to be mean to American children of Spanish ancestry, just because some adults of Spanish ancestory allowed a visa expire without renewing it...

Shouldn't we put you in jail for life because Jeffrey Dahmer raped, killed, and cannibalized boys in Milwaukee? After all, both you and he share American ancestry.

One thing makes just as much sense as the other.

G. Soros pays people to comment full time, and under many different screen names.

Janice- the study with the toddlers and dolls showed that all toddlers prefered to play with white dolls. You can thank the race mixing commercials for that.

Lackofcommonsense- Spanish ancestory is white european, you are thinking mestizo. The age of consent in mexico is 12 and women + male donkey shows are their versions of gentlemens clubs.

I see your one cannibal in US history and raise you a nation of cannibals(also check out KURU)http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2661365.stmUN condemns DR Congo cannibalism and rapers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbZIK9Ce0yMCongo soldiers explain why they rape, sounds like a good reason for DIEversity. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/27/south-africa-rape-study-m_n_788722.html South Africa Rape Study: More Than 1 In 3 Men Admit To Rape

Europeans where in the Americas 10,000 years before indians crossed the land bridges. They ended up
getting wiped out due to only sailing over the Atlantic in small numbers verses the masses that walked. See the Discovery channels youtube ICE AGE COLUMBUS.

The hispanics that where in CA-TX when the nation was founded where of Spainish(from spain) decent.At the time of Texas independence, there were only about 20,000 Mexicans living in ALL the territory between Texas AND California, and most of those were white descendants of Spaniards. They pretty all assimilated in a generation or two.

The Mexicans and their American born children in Texas (Tejanos as they seem to like to be called) are
pretty much all recent immigrants going back no more than 2-3 generations, with most being first generation immigrants) so no one can truthfully make calls to some long ago ancestral rights. A man from the Yucatan or elsewhere who climbs over the border fence ten years ago and has 3-4 babies has no special claim on any part of the U.S. of A. The group Laraza claims the entire southwest for mexicans.

By the way, Mexico only controlled the land from Texas to California for about 20 years, and only because they inherited from spain at independence.

all toddlers prefered to play with white dolls. You can thank the race mixing commercials for that.

Do you ever think about ...

Oh, never mind.

You relly should try talking to someone outside your comfort zone sometime. It might drop the scales from your eyes.

Lackofcommonsense- I used to believe everyone was equal until I meet more non-oriental minorities. In fact when 5 blacks failed to mug me at an ATM and where only able to give me a black eye I thought it couldnt be happening, but the blow that gave me a black eye opened my eyes, and the LEOs actually thanked me as the group had robbed others that day.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQJFv9SMSMQ&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3Depic%2Bbeard%2Bman%26oq%3Depic%2Bbeard%2Bman%26aq%3Df%26aqi%3Dg10%26aql%3D%26gs_sm%3D3%26gs_upl%3D1804321l1807051l0l1807346l14l14l0l7l7l0l320l1266l0.6.0.1l7l0 THis shows how blacks are when they fail at sucker punching.

Since then I could not help but notice how much more criminal blacks and hispanics are compared to whites/asians. While I try to avoid blacks/hispanics as the first rule of self defence is aviod bad places and bad people blacks/hispanics have commited almost all of the crime I have personal experiance with. The NAACP tried to say that 11 neighborhoods in Philly being responsible for over 1/2 of PA's prison spending was racism despite the fact those areas have black gang and drug problems, like YT was forcing crack down whores lungs.

BTW I have been to Italy twice, along with Germany, Austria, France, UK, Switzerland(ski trip), Mexico & the Neatherlands. I have drank from one of the 2000yo aqueducts that still provides european cities with water, yet whites have to fly to africa to dig wells for the natives that cant figure it out.

My trips to Italy including Pompai let me counter afrocentrism. My diabetic friend was worried about a power failure messing up his insulin so I explained how the romans built evaporative coolers before Christ. I looked for a youtube vid and the first one I found was for by a charity in africa teaching how to make them but they said it was a muslim that invented it when mooslhams where not around in B.C.

Boomguy

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?????? So anything that can be perceived racist in the slightest way is now fair game for the PC crowd. Good thing the Olympics are not going on, we would be in trouble for chanting it there as well..

When people use do a "USA" cheer at the Olympics they are cheering FOR their own team. When the students at this Texas high school did the same cheer the obvious intend was "we are USA and you are NOT". Do you really fail to see the difference? The "USA" works only when one of the teams is NOT USA. Your analogy is not applicable to this situation and this is not a an example of "PC". Political correctness is saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas". These chants were intended to be insulting, and they were.

Unfortunately, when the whole story is not published such as this one, it's only purpose is to fuel the outrage and pit different groups of people against each other. If you look up this same incident on the internet, you will find that the school with the primarily Hispanic students were yelling "Alamo Whites" before the Alamo team began chanting "USA". The way I see it, both sides were at fault. By the way, the people on this site who are making accusations of racism should really watch their use of the term "you whites", sounds like a little racism runs on both sides of the fence. You know the saying "People in glass houses...."?

cmstubbles

Your comment, like many others on this thread, appear to justify this bad behavior with "they did it first". That excuse doesn't even work for 10 year olds. Bad behavior is not justified by other bad behavior. The school administrators were right to stop it. Maybe more should have been done at the other school, but stopping the chants by Alamo High was the right thing to do.

steveaae -

Firstly, it's Janstince, not Janice, you @!$%#ing moron.

Secondly, what the hell? A power failure messing up your friend's insulin? My grandmother's diabetic, and she has no fears of a power failure messing with her insulin. And I fail to see how an evaporative cooler would help if she did.

Thirdly, you're ignoring all the bull@!$%# imperialism that Europe (and now the right-wing religiots from Americastan) have done in the past and are doing now to keep education to a minimum, and promote idiotic religiosity that causes people to do stupid @!$%# like burn kids as witches, pass the death penalty for homosexuality, and form an army using little kids to serve some stupid guy who thinks he's a prophet. There's a whole complexity that you just reduce using your racist tendencies.

In short, I award you zero points on the correctness scale. I award you 50 points for asshattery, but only 25 for racial prejudice, as you forgot to also call them monkeys. So, you get a 75% racist @!$%# score. Happy now?

JC, it just goes hand in hand with those three Northern California Boys who were sent home from school for wearing clothes that had the US flag on them, on Cinco de Mayo.

zeusmambe: FAIL

Zeus, to the victor go the spoils!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What most of you took from this article is hysterical! Two American high school teams playing- one predominently white, the other predominently hispanic and you think that their chant was anything BUT racist? This is not the Olympics as one person said There were BOTH Our teams. Pride in America is fine and we should all be proud of our country, but the intolerance that is fostered by parents and certain groups for our fellow Americans is nothing to be proud of.

Custer died for your sins.

JC, I agree with you completely. I don't speak Spanish, or French, or any other language but English. I am American born and raised, and I have no need or reason to speak any other language.

Press 1 for English. Press 2 to disconnect. Call back when you can speak English.

It's ok jcaustin, move to Alabama where i live "although i do love austin texas". We have the toughest immigration laws in the country. Alabamas unemployment dropped to 8% since the new law past. thats well below the national average. We dont dis-like hispanics we just believe in a fair system where everyone pays "reasonable" taxes. Not just the working class that are actually born and raised here. This country is getting way too liberal, WHY IN THE HELL DO YOU APOLOGIZE FOR CHANTING USA,USA. The school principal needs to be fired.

You guys are missing the point completely. The reason the chant was racist was because the white school chanted USA; therefore implying that their team was competing against a high school team from another country. The other team has a majority of Hispanic kids so the chant USA was to imply that the other team was made up of NON-Americans. This isn't PC police stuff, it's just dumb and demeaning. Apparently the coach of the white team understood the chant was wrong and quieted the fans down.

Why can't you conservatives read something and absorb information and facts? Time and time again you show that you are the most unintelligent people in our society. Please read the article again.

I disagree with calling stupid people "conservatives". Many of them would like to be considered as such (conservative, not stupid), but true conservatives would not put up with such Un-American attitudes as displayed by the brats at Alamo Heights.
Being conservative, like being Christian, isn't about trying to "make" everyone to be like you, it's about fairness and tolerance and choices. Moderate conservatives are the best sort, imho. Our elders could express their opinions and not endure a brow beating - but they knew socially to mind their p's and q's if they wanted an invite to the next party of friends. Now, everyone just lets it all hang out, the heck with being civil.

Yes, JC Austin - this is ridiculous. Of course this was NOT racist - jingoistic maybe, but certainly not racist.

If they shouted something that referred to skin color, it would have been racist.

how unaware can you pretend to be? these kids were pointing out the very difference in the skin color between them and their opponents. that's why they were so proudly screaming, usa! usa! they were letting these little latin losers know, we are white and we whipped your ass. and, theyr'e smug gloating got them in hot water. and, it should have. maybe it will teach them some of the grace and mannners that mommy and daddy didn't. not to mention true sportsmanship on the field with theyr'e fellow american's.

Zuessmama- Check out the discovery channels youtube feed for ICE AGE COLUMBUS. It shows how europeans sailed to the US 10,000 years before indians crossed the land bridge. They had much smaller numbers than those that just walked and where wiped out despite being smart enough to sail the atlantic.

The only people that would be offended by USA are illegal invaders. Maybe ICE should stop by the school.

JC, I agree with your comment. Unfortunately, this does not appear to be a case of patriotism. Think about if the situation were reversed: both schools in Mexico and the predominately Hispanic school shouting "Mexico!" "Mexico!". It is an act of intimidation.

Yes, we have a high number of people who are here illegally that SHOULD be deported. However, that does not give anyone the right to attack an entire nationality. There ARE good, hardworing Latinos here that just want a better life. They have an even harder time because of the way a lot of Americans reject the illegal immigrants. They are lumped together because they are (mostly) from the same country. It is prejudiced any way you slice it. I would be the FIRST to chant "USA! USA!" when it is appropriate. In this case, it was not.

@steveaae and the commenter who called the Confederates 'traitors': You two have insulted my heritage. I am 1/16 Native American (My Great-Great Grandmother was full-blood Cherokee). Steveaae, get a clue. Indians are from INDIA. My Native American ancestors are just that: NATIVE AMERICAN.

Some of my ancestors also fought for this country. My Great-Great Granddaddy was a Confederate soldier. The Civil war was NOT just about slavery (which, BTW, I condemn. Everyone should be treated as a person). It was about preserving a simple way of life. I am proud to be from the South! Talk about prejudice! Keep your one-sided remarks to yourself unless you have the facts, I-D-10-T.

As for the wiseguy who bragged about the Union being "WINNERS", why don't you take a look at what your WINNING TEAM has done to this once great nation. Industrialism is destroying us: global warming, greed, hate, etc. But that's a rant for another blog.

Good night, Good luck, and God Bless Y'all. :)

What is this? -- this is the PC BS country we have become, that's what it is- like Saxon says in #1.1, we have to apologize for everything --- the liberals say so.

lucky you, your State isn't in the toilet yet due to the high cost of Americans supporting illegals. Sleep tight.

True that USA! USA! USA! USA!! USA!!!

It does if you use it to imply that somebody else is not as American as you based on their skin color, which is what this story is about.

Cameron Ford: WRONG...

No this is about a LOSING team trying to score a win by whining... They didn't yell out names at the other team... they yelled USA... HTF can that even be considered racist...

cameron, that is an assumption.

Cameron is right on the money. If both schools were full of WHITE kids......the chanting never would have happened.

You clowns probably hate Mexicans...but not the Mexicans who mow your lawn for 3 bucks an hour.

It is just another example of how LaRaza is using a minor incident to groom us for the looming Mexican take over. The Mexican invasion is complete and has been facilitated by thousands of events just like this. Mexicans are taught to cry racism any time they can (even though Mexican is not a race) and they teach their children that what we think of as the southwest US actually belongs to Mexico. They are also teaching their children to hate anyone living in the southwest US who is not of Mexican descent (see Arizona's closure of the Mexican ethnic studies program). The Mexicans living in the US and LaRaza are now poised to take over the southwestern US. They are demanding the return of del norte or Aztlan to the Mexican people. With 20 million Mexicans living in the US illegally, LaRaza is looking forward to a political take over in the next ten years. With Mexican politicians in place they will begin the transfer of land and reallocation of wealth to the Mexican hopefuls on the sidelines. Unfortunately for the Mexicans on the sideline, Mexican culture is a criminal culture and like their fathers before them the new rulers will betray them as well. Learn to say ola' to your new neighbors.

After the Mexican/Latin-American takeover, they will be sorely disappointed by the quickly-approaching Muslim takeover. The Sharia Law will deal harshly with all Christians. Study your Arabic, you will need it.

old vet, you hit the nail on the head with that one.

old vet......please run for president. As another old vet,I'd definitely vote for you!

Bunch of fools you guys are. They chanted USA because the other team was Hispanic! They didn't do it out of pride you idiots! If they played another all white team I can guarantee you they would of NEVER even thought to chant USA!

Start with Michelle Obama and her husband.

Mike5619 - First off let me say I am far from an idiot. But let's look at things from perhaps a different perspective. How many Latino "American Born" Boxers are there in the US? Quite a few. And how many Latino Ball Players are born in the US? Again QUITE a Few. Now doesn't it seem IDIOTIC to be American Born, and strut into the ring waving a Mexican Flag? Or wear a Mexicali Emblem on their trunks? ISN'T IT IDIOTIC to go to a Ball Game, and a "hispanic" US BORN Ball Player isn't speaking English, but Spanish? ISN'T IT IDIOTIC that in order to rack and stack in the hiring process it is ALMOST MANDATORY that you be bilingual? ISN'T IT IDIOTIC that American Born Students need to learn Spanish, or if you go into a store in THIS COUNTRY you also need to know a different language?

It seems to me, at least, when I go to Mexico I should know some Spanish. SPANISH is afterall the Language of Mexico, BUT NOT HERE in the Good Ole USA. NO instead we have to cator to everyone. We have to bend over backwards to accomdate. Now IDIOCY is the EXPECTATION that we have to put up with these kinds of things in THIS country. SO, people can't have it both ways. I don't go to my neighbor's house, drink his beer, and expect him to kiss my butt. But sure as hell, it seems WE are EXPECTED to do just that for any doofis that walks in here. The reason, I believe, is there is NO PRIDE in our American Heritage. There is No Sense of Identity. Instead people cling on to some disenfranchised belief that they are HISPANICS FIRST or Blacks First, or Italians First, before they are Americans even IF they were born here. That to be is Idiotic. BE PROUD. BE AN AMERICAN FIRST.

It is called freedom of speech. You do not have to like the speach but you have no legal right to stop it.

Then the OTHER team should have taken up the chant as well. And I didn't read anywhere that anyone chanted 'USA and you are not'.

All of you PC idiots can shove it where the sun doesn't shine. Nobody knows if they were all legal citizens, or do they know if they were illegally here. It sounds to me like there was a bunch of illegals in the other high school, otherwise they should have joined in the shouting of USA, USA, USA.

And no, I'm not a racist. I get picked on because of my sex, by men from all different races. Now do you want to keep spouting off about discrimination?

There you go with that "implication" again.... maybe just maybe there was no implication.... maybe you are inferring the wrong thing.....

I can understand where you would get that "implication" but you'd have a hard time proving it.

How do you know that's what they were implying? Wouldn't it be something if we learned that the students didn't want to further "disrespect" the other (losing) team by chanting their winning teams name? Instead, maybe they wanted to show some student solidarity by having everyone shout USA! instead. Not likely, but plausible. Now, if you were there, and saw it, and asked the students what their intent was......

So you are in their minds and know what each person was thinking Cameron? Since you seem to know all, please give me the Powerball #'s for Saturdays drawing.

If the fans for the other team joined in with the chant, would it still be racist?

This is ridiculous. It was not racist.

Cameron, were you there? Do you know the FULL particulars of this situation? Could there, perhaps, have been some PERSONAL animosity between members of both teams, and their audiences? This author makes very limited statements, to arouse interest in HIS/HER story, and the more controversial the better. (A better term might be "hate mongering" to stir up a bigger story.)

Sorry SallyAnn, but you are racist. It is very obvious in your post. The fact that you believe all of these kids are illegal shows your racism and ignorance. Someone please explain to me why these students would chant USA USA if not to imply the other students weren't American. I've been to many sporting events and have watched even more on T.V and have only heard this chant in international events. Since both teams were American why would this chant not be racist? The students chant was meant to highlight their victory over the opposing team. Since they chanted USA USA instead of Edison Edison it implies that their victory was over a team that was not American. The chant implies victory for the USA over another nation, which in this instance was not the case. The reason why racism, ignorance, and intolerance have remained and prospered in this country is because of the ignorance and ethnocetricty of those that cannot see the blatant racism of this chant in this instance.

If a team made up of only white players defeated a team of all black players and the fans chanted White power White power, would that not be racist? I mean the team is all white and they are the one's that won so according to most of you that would be acceptable.

Stew....someone posted earlier that if the other team had shouted MEXICO MEXICO it would have been a non issue. I happen to agree with this. Just like those 3 boys in Northern California who were sent home for wearing American flags on cinco de mayo. I FLY MY DAMN FLAG ON CINCO DO MAYO! If that makes me racist SO BE IT. We should not even be celebrating cinco de mayo. It is celebrated to appease those people who refuse to assimilate. And it is offensive to me to have another country's flag flying in MY COUNTRY! If you want to call me bigoted or racist I really don't care. If that is the current title for patriotic Americans that that is fine with me.

Dey took err jerbs!

Magical, my family still has Scottish flags, on the car, in the house - it's a matter of ethnic pride. Of course we are American, our Scots came in the 1700s - but it's fun and we like it. You do your thing, we'll do ours - we are having more fun, since we enjoy Chinese New Year, Valentines Day, St. Paddy's, Easter (enjoy the pagan eggs, and in TX love the cascarones), May Day (my mom had us leave paper cones with flowers for neighbors - some of her family is Welsh, maybe from them?), July 4th, Halloween (another pagan deal), and.... good grief - you get the picture.

It is called freedom of speech. You do not have to like the speach but you have no legal right to stop it.

Do any conservatives anywhere understand the First Amendment at all?

Freedom of speech doesn't mean students can stand up in class and tell the teacher to f-off with no consequences, even though they have the first amendment rights to do so without being arrested.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean students can stand up after the game and start waving Nazi flags around with no consequences, even though they have the first amendment rights to do so without being arrested.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can go into your office and tell your boss whatever you want without being fired.

Please learn about the constitution before you come on here making comments about it.

I can call you a liberal pinko commie fag. May not be right but it is legal under the freedom fo speech ammendment. Now is is the right thing to do ? NO, but it is legal. I did not intimidate or attack you, I called you a name. Since when are we outlawing that? How many children are we going to imprison for name calling?

No one said you had to "completely shed your cultural identity." Just quit shoving it in our faces and trying to change ours. This is America. Not Mexico or whatever country someone comes from. If you love that country so much, go back there. This one is mine and I'm freaky proud of it.

Come on everybody! Don't you understand why this was inappropriate? Hispanics students are also Americans. So, if you played a game with 2 schools that didn't have one with mostly Hispanics, would you chant, "USA, USA?" Of course not!

The offensiveness is that the other team is also American! The chants made an attempt at saying they were not Americans. Of course this would be offensive!

Sunny,

Did you read the post from someone that was there that said one of the boys playing had a cousin in attendance that had just returned from Afghanistan? And further said the kids we chanting to him, not the other team. Can't find it again, guess it got caught up in a collapse.

You are right Sunny. What they did was worse than if they had chanted "Wet Back" or "Beaner". We know what they meant. It was very thinly veiled. I am shocked at all the bigots here that don't see that. This is NOT just being PC.

ok,, folks, let the revolution begin.

oh and

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John, See 25.4 below! By the way. I have been to El Paso many, many times. You have NOTHING to talk about!!

anybody who doesn't see it as being racist is a bigot.

Stereotype much? and you are WRONG!!!! If the hispanic team perceived this as a "threat" or an "insult" then they need to look in the mirror and ask themselves WHY??? Could it be because they are paranoid? or delusional? or just un-American....

Sunny...you have to mentally and intellectually challenged. Ok it's Just Me is right. IT IS OUR COUNTRY. Absolutely and you know what? THE CONSTITUTION AND DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE STATES THAT. It is not anyone else's country. It belongs to the American people. And that means me and Ok it's just me and all others like us. If YOU don't like it I suggest you go to whatever hole you are proud of. Those kids have nothing to be ashamed of or to be sorry for.

@ Kevin926134 by your logic it would have been acceptable for the students to have chanted Wet backs Wet backs or if the team had been made up of black students the chant N*gger N*gger would have been acceptable, right? I mean we do have free speech in this country. Im all for free speech and I think that it is one of the freedoms that truley keeps us free, but people must also be held accountable for the things that they say. People of all races, creeds, and religions make up America, so for the majority to imply that the minority is unAmerican is implictly racist and should have no place in this country, especially within our schools. Maybe this is the reason that Southern states are consistently behind in education.

I can call you a liberal pinko commie fag. May not be right but it is legal under the freedom fo speech ammendment. Now is is the right thing to do ? NO, but it is legal. I did not intimidate or attack you, I called you a name. Since when are we outlawing that? How many children are we going to imprison for name calling?

You can't be arrested, but go say that to your boss and see if you have a first amendment right not be fired.

Tell your kids to stand up in class and tell that to the teacher and see if they have a first amendment right not to be punished.

I wish you teabaggers would take as much time reading the constitution as you do screaming about how it's being violated when it's actually not.

Couldnt agree with you more.

I am very positive about this country.

I don't have to be positive about racist bigots who presume to tell me that i am not a "REAL" American.

If that is the case neither are you because you and yours just came here a a few years/decades before me.

Not only agree with you, but lets take it further. This is the USA, people want to move here, and a lot of them legally do. And they assimilate into our economy, and become one of us, and they also support our country. But the flood of illegals coming here, wanting the American dream, but refuse to become involved, assimilate into our culture, not your illegal culture, but OUR culture.

Why can't half of those illegals understand English? It's because you want your culture, plain and simple. And yes, I am damn proud of the USA. And you PC idiots are not going to change my thinking.

Whatever 67 Said,

"You are the winner. Don't know why it took you so long to put together Texas, racism, and Bush but your mama probably only allows you so much time on the internet. Muy Bueno muchacho. That was in case you don't read english too bueno. I was there at the game and there was a cousin of one of the players who had just retuned from Afganistan. They were chanting in his honor. Hope you all feel like crap now."

And all the bleeding hearts say the Whatever67 was full of sh*t TXHorseman. And he must be because OH MY GOD THE POOR DOWNTRODDEN HISPANICS (as well as the kiss ass school administration) CAN'T BE WRONG! It probably was just as Whatever67 said. But no one will believe it because all Americans are uneducated rednecks that always are on the offensive. We all are bigots (except those enlightened bleeding hearts, of course) Disgusting.

USAUSAUSAUSAUSAUSAUSAUSAUSA

SallyAnn -What is American culture? I was born in this country as were my parents and their parents before them. I am a Son of the Revolution and I can guarantee that I am nothing like you. Our varying mix of cultures and races is what makes us great. In every major city there is a China Town or Little Italy yet I don't hear you rail about these. Learning English does not happen overnight, and just because someone wants the oppotunities that America has to offer does not mean that they must abandon their cultural heritage for the sake of redneck bigots like you. American culture is one that is coming to be defined by ignorance and intolerance and you exemplify that! Please SallyAnn tell me how would you define "OUR Culture?"

TXHorseman...that post is collapsed under a Joshua de Jesus post about halfway up.

for starters i'm from texas and played highschool basketball and went to the final four my year. For a team to chant USA, let them do what they want. It's America for Christ sake. But the best part is that our young americans as well as our older ones aren't blind to the illegal immigration problems facing our country. I currently live in Los Angeles which is one of the most heavly populated illegal immigrated cities as well as San Antonio and so for a team to chant USA, they are aware that a majority of that HS is populated my illegal immigrants in this country that our/my tax dollars are paying for. I'm tired of this tolerant issue. In other countries, they don't give a @!$%# and will cane you or chof you're hand off for simply stealing. We as AMERICANS, not raicsts, are simply standing up for our country and our system of belifefs. @!$%# everyone else that thinks that's racist. I live in this country and pay alot of taxes and can vote and say what i please when i please....that's the beaty. So...to sum it up, yes, that San Antonio HS more than liklely had a majority of illegal immigrants but for the rival HS to apologize...you're dickless and should be ashamed. I'm tired of apologizing for comments that may offend others.....@!$%# that!!!!