Casey Anthony. Too bad they don't have Tropical Storms and Hurricanes in Maryland.

They do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Maryland_hurricanes

Who does this you ask? Just look for the person who is pushing a spare tire around in a baby carriage.

I'm guessing Casey Anthony was her inspiration.

Pollice expect the autopsy results on Friday...

Really, MSNBC!?! Is it really asking too much for your writers to click on spell-check before publishing?

Give those third graders a break from writing and hire some qualified people with GEDs.

Not to mention:

Police have not released the age, sex or gender of the child.

Come on folks, edit!

Scales67 which word are you saying is misspelled? Pollice is clearly a typo.

They're supposed to be professionals remember?

KayKay: Spell check would have clearly caught the typo.

Watch it folks the spelling and grammar Nazis are out today!

Casey Anthony copycat.

Devil's Son - I am grateful there are SOME people who think spelling and grammar is important.

Especially when it's part of ones profession...it's just a shame that it's the readers who are those people, not the ones who work for MSNBC collecting a paycheck.

Yeah, who cares about Muerdiers, yeah it is spelling that is worsey!!!

Newborn - age. Sex and gender not released. This is what you get when you are trying to be first to disclose a news item. Editors don't edit; they just push the story to the front to be followed by editing later.

LL

Careful, Jessica; I see a few screw ups in your post, too. Spelling is important, grammar is important, spelling and grammar are important.

"Especially when it is part of one's work"--as in singular possessive; "ones" is just plural, as in "many ones, multiple ones"

Skitt's law: "Any post correcting an error in another post will contain at least one error itself."

What a country! Pretty sick. Yeah, that type of stuff comes with what we got around us today.

What is all this crap you people are posting about Casey Anthony? Do you not understand how the Justice System works? Not Guilty means it was not proven that she was guilty. Meaning, she didn't do it.

You idiots are the type that vote republicon. You believe what you want to believe even in the face of contrary evidence.

Who cares about the typo's in the article?

Yet another child has died at the hands of a parent. Isn't that what should really matter here?

Good grief - no wonder our society is in the state it is.

Is my sister on here also correcting peoples spelling and grammar?

I care about the typos in the article. The Internet has not been good for our writing skills, among other things.

That doesn't mean I don't care about dying children. There happens to be room enough for both discussions.

Incidentally, how do you know that the child died at the hands of a parent?

scales67 You really are asking too much from msnbc.com. Makes you appreciate the comics in the Sunday Newspaper more.

bookworm- they quit putting the comics in my Sunday paper a couple years ago.

I'm sure Nancy Grace and her fellow botoxed crones will be hot on the trail to bring every sordid detail to the attention of the death-groupie sickos. Thus turning an obscure tragedy into 6-months of RATING$$$!!!! and totally perverting any sense of justice.

What the hell is wrong with you, people?

LYNSEYPUG: There are 19 million inhabitants in the state of Florida, are they all wackos? Very good stereotyping...

SUBLIMINAL: The same to you. There are 310 million inhabitants in the US, are they all sick?

THE EVIL TESSMACHER: Big difference. Ms Anthony was found not guilty, but at no time it meant that she didn't do it. A 'not-guilty'verdict means that the prosecution could not prove her guilt" beyond any reasonable doubt." There is a big difference between not guilty and innocent. A non-guilty person can be found guilty in a civil trial (as OJ Simpson was, despite being found not guilty in a criminal court). An innocent person cannot be tried.

Is it too difficult to put your brain cells to work before you start jumping to conclusions? You know what they say about assume, don't you?

Dear "The Evil Tessmacher"

"NOT GUILTY" does no mean that you "didn't do it"....it simply means that the prosecution was unable to prove to the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that "you did it".....ask O.J.

History is littered with cases such as those, and the presumption of innocence when proven "not guilty" shows your stupidity.

Jurors votes have been "bought $$", some jurors won't convict because of religious beliefs, some evidence is excluded (for whatever reasons)....these all point to instances that while "not guilty" may have been the verdict, innocence is still false.

How many Criminal cases have been lost, yet won in the Civil Courts where procedural rules are different???

Innocent my @ss!!!!

terrible that this type of thing happens alot these days.

@justiceforall-2038290: So you think the principles of law are superfluous. What are you basing your opinion of guilt or innocence on, intuition? The much lower criteria of civil litigation? OJ DIDN'T do it, as a matter of law and as a matter of history, no matter how much the special interests shriek to the contrary or how much the death groupies buy into the garbage shoveled by the talking heads on CNN.

Cynic: I think you got it all wrong. In a criminal trial, the jury has to render a verdict 'beyond any reasonable doubt', otherwise the person is found 'not-guilty.' This by far is not a presumption of innocence, it is just that the prosecution did not find 'irrefutable' evidence to prove its case. On the other hand, in a civil trial the jury has to find the defendant guilty or not guilty based on the preponderance of the evidence or by clear and convincing evidence. No, you don't know if OJ didn't do it, the trial determined that the evidence presented by the prosecution was not enough to determine his guilt. If he was so "INNOCENT" as you claim, why then he was found guilty in the wrongful death trial (Goldman v. Simpson, 1997). If you want to talk about law with some knowledge, please read the difference between the criminal system and the civil system. And check specially if the criminal system defines not-guilty as innocent. As a matter of law, the law says that the state could not prove his guilt, not that he's innocent.

justiceforall: For any practical purpose, your description is accurate. In theory, there is a presumption of innocence in all criminal cases in this country. That presumption stands unless it is rebutted beyond a reasonable doubt in the mind of the jury. That means that OJ is indeed innocent of the crime of murder.

The difference between the theory and your description is merely that the word "innocent" doesn't mean "didn't do it." It means "not criminally responsible."

Thus, using words and phrases like "innocent," "guilty" and "not guilty" in their most precise legal sense, the only way to say that a person didn't do it is to say "Casey Anthony did not do it."

But she and OJ are indeed innocent in the eyes of the criminal law.

Or use CONTRACEPTION!!!!

Some people should just never have children.

Or use CONTRACEPTION!!!!

Good advice but keep in mind that it is not 100%, some people use it improperly and sometimes "love" happens. I'd venture to say that most people walking around were not planned.

Some people should just never have children.

Agreed. ☺

Maybe the kid died from SIDS or something and the mother didn't know what to do with it. She'd have to be mentally unbalanced to do this, but she may not be a killer.

AG99- SIDS doesn't usually strike newborns. It's usually babies 1-4 months that are the vast majority of SIDS cases. Also, I don't care how scared she was. A loving mother would immediately try to get help or call authorities if something happened to her child that was accidental or from natural causes.

Or use CONTRACEPTION!!!!

99.99% effective is good enough for me, I agree totally!

Some people should just never have children.

I agree with this too!

Tori: We don't know what the kid died of, could have been stillborn, but the article didn't say it was murdered. And I didn't say she was a "loving mother," or at least not a mentally sound one. Obviously she has problems. My point was she might not have killed the child.

There's nothing like birth control is there?

Since there's no information on the mom, she may be a young girl? Kids don't know what to do in these kinds of situations and she may have freaked out.

Or, she's not the brightest person as an adult. Still, she could have freaked out and made a bad decision.

As a mom, I'd call 911 right away but maybe she thought she could "fix" it herself.

Orrrr, she is indeed a cold blooded killer who picks on the defenseless. In which case, stick her head on a spike and tar and feather it.

Because people like O'Reilly and the GOP would rather cover drugs for people who can't get erections, rather than people like this who shouldn't have babies in the first place and may need access to contraception. I would much rather see my tax dollars go towards preventing horrific incidences like this one, instead of helping some old guy who can't get a boner.

Who does this kind of thing? In a Santorium lead US, women forced to carry their rapist's child to full term! "Suck it up gals and make the best of it" ---Ricky Sweater-vest

Free contraception might have prevented this. I also believe that there should be free sterilization offered to low income women and families. Why shouldn't a woman in her early to mid-twenties, and already has 2+ children, not be offered to be relieved of the burden more children may place on her, and the children she already has?

My friend Jessica, scrimped and saved to have a tubal ligation, and she never regretted it, because she had 2 children in her teens, and wanted a better life for herself, and them. Now, in her mid thirties, she is back in school, getting her PhD, her son is an honor student, and she is paying for her daughter to get help for her severe dyslexia. She is convinced that if she had more children, even when she was married, she would have never been able to be in the position she is in now, and would have continued to be on government assistance.

StephAce,

Many times it should not only be offered but strongly encourages. In the case of career-welfare families, it should be mandatory.

i think sterilization is needed more than ever in the world we live in.there are so many people incapable of takeing care themselfs let alone a baby..you need a licence to drive a car-a licence to fish-a licence to own a dog i think you should have to pass a series of exams before anyone is allowed to have children IQ test,emotional tests,patience tests alot of the problems we have today are because of people having kids who are terrible selfish violent greedy people and they teach their kids how to be worse than they are.

StephAce- we should offer free sterilization to men too, athough it would take a real man to go through with it!

StephAce - im sure it wasnt an intentional ommission, but men should also be able to get free sterilization too.

And I have a hunch, more men than women would take up that free offer.

Devil's Son Care to give some Stats as to what % of rapes lead to " unwanted pregnancies "?

Amazing the Ignorance about female fertility.

forms of birth control that WORK

1 - "Here's a quarter, call my dad, if he says it is okay, then we can do it."

2 - Mom told my sisters to hold a Bible between their knees. Must have worked. Neither have kids.

What's the old saying "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink" something like that. You can provide all the contraceptive services and gadgets, but people will still make babies that shouldn't have been made.

In the case of career-welfare families, it should be mandatory.

Who should break down the person's door and haul away the welfare recipient for treatment? Someone from a Federal Agency? The local police? Should the government just send a federally-paid doctor to do the procedure right there in the living room? I'm confused on how the process would work once we give the government permission to sterilize people without their permission. Would this be a new government agency or one of the existing ones? Sorry, but this is about as fascist an idea as I can imagine.

Quite simply Dave,

Just ask them, "Do you want your check?"

Eagal Averro, In a world where women can't get contraception that number would go up now wouldn't it. Logically less access to birth control, less woman using birth control. Forgive me for being logical. I know it confuses you. I guess women can always hope their rapist wears a condom so he doen't leave DNA. Keep shutting down Planned Parenthood Clinics. Keep making it harder for women to get the basic health care they need. 1100 anti-woman state laws passed in the last two years. Wait til Nov when they EXPLAIN it to you old white men! BTW my Ricky quote was almost word for word what he said. HE brought it up first not me!

I dont see any Verifiable Stats, where are they?

Steph actually I think sterilization should be offered to anyone who have a large number of kids, including the Duggars. Why limit low income. Another good example would be those idiots on the Teen Mom show who just went to jail or those idiots who keep getting pregnant, etc. There are two parents that don't know how to deal with their kids in public, so let's sterilize them. yes, folks need to stop having kids, but just don't limit them to some group only. I can think of lots of folks regardless of income who shouldn't be parents at all.

I know a number of women, who, when they were in college, had unplanned pregnancies (one was raped), and the parents or the grandparents insisted that they keep the babies. "This will teach her responsibility," "We take care of our own," and "This is our first grandbaby."

The kids ended up being shuffled all over the place, one relative to the next, and raised by committees that couldn't agree on anything.

The story doesn't say much. What if the mom just left the baby in the trunk, like that one that left her baby on top of her car and drove for several miles before noticing all the other cars honking and waving at her. This one just happens to end in tragedy.

There is a difference between gender and sex.

There is no difference between gender and sex in a newborn.

Hello..."uhhello"..... psycho-logical gender and biological gender are not interchangeable when you're on the stainless steel slab in the morgue. Unless, of course, it was Bush's fault again.

Huh, What the f####. There' is a difference between gender and sex? The only difference I know is that one of the two genders likes to have more sex. Don't give me this psycho gender and bialogical lecture, because as soon as you say psycho, it just means there is something wrong in the head.

Yes, I am still lmao over that sentence!! I always thought that sex and gender were the same thing! Maybe they had to submit a certain number of words . . .

one word comes to mind Hermaphrodite

Hermaphrodite: unplanned result of trist between Hermes and Aphrodite?

In the rush to get the story posted - proofing is thrown out the window. As the day progresses...they will add more, but probably will never correct grammatical or spelling errors.

Never in your life? Obviously you don't follow much mainstream news.

And you would've went to jail. Would that have been a better outcome?

Internet tough guys amuse me to no end.

Considering the ineptness of American jurors as displayed in the Casey Anthony case, I would say having MSG take care of the problem when it occurred would be a much, much better outcome and save the taxpayers a small fortune.

P.S.

"I saw him/her putting a baby in the trunk and asked what he was doing, then he/she said 'you're next' and came at me, so I defended myself."

Police: Good job sir, you are a hero.

Easily amused internet critics are annoying.

After twenty + years in the Army and a year in the middle east, I would say I have little to prove now. However, if I see anyone doing something to seriously injure a child, you will see my name in the papers. No flexing, just fact-ing.

MSG....... if you ever need a spotter ............!! ( just sayin' )

I agree with Top and the Master Chief. I will stand up to Mean Joe Green and the Pittsburgh Steelers to protect a child, and I'm a 5'5" inch woman.

I ruther have a 5'5" with Guts then a 6'5" fairy :-)

hey some guy, how does the internet tough guy amuses you. Do they tickle you in your under pants? Just saying, how about internet smart arses?

Smartest comment here.

I know it kills me. You have all these GOP-ers bitching and moaning about people having kids they shouldn't have, and unwanted babies, and how welfare is destroying the system. Well I agree with a lot of that - which is exactly why I would like to see all females have easy access to contraception and reduce the number of these types of instances!! Hello - wake the f up people.

mspiel - "We'll be seeing a lot more of this if the social conservatives get their way."

And yet it is the "free" handouts from liberals and the promise of more "free" welfare for dropping out a baby that motivates the lowest elements of society to have kids they do not actually want to care for.

If you gave people money for doing drugs instead of making it illegal to do drugs which do you think results in more people doing drugs?

"Think about it, we have legal abortion. We have cheap contraception. We have no-questions-asked places to give up babies safely. And infanticide STILL happens."

You do realize that pointing out how easy it is to get rid of a baby, while ackowledging that people still CHOOSE NOT TO only highlights that access to the service IS NOT THE ISSUE, don't you?

You can't collect welfare for a child you don't give birth to first.

You too Mike. Wake the F up.

Why should they get a job when they can plop out some brats, lock them in a closet or drop them off at grandma's and do whatever the f they feel like.... partying and entering "hot mom" contests comes to mind. Isn't that a nice ENTITLEMENT they have?

As long as they being paid NOT to use contraception, the cost or availability is irrelevant.

pjam, as I do agree with you on some points about entitlements. About this statement

"If you gave people money for doing drugs instead of making it illegal to do drugs which do you think results in more people doing drugs?"

Huh? We give out tons of money to people for taking drugs its called medicaid, medicare, we also make it illiegal to do certain drugs. Both results in more people taking/doing drugs. We ain't winning the war on drugs, so what is your point? What ever you are smoking, you need to lay it down.

Also, when did good law abiding citizens have different levels of elements? The lowest element of society is what you categorize those that are less fortunate than you? You need to get your head out of arse and get out of the house more, those low elements in society wont bite, I promise.

MS--there will be no restriction to contraceptives. We only want those who wish to copulate to pay for the damned protection themselves. Why should I have to pay for them, because it will be factored into my health insurance premiums. BS!

Spybear, we've had 100% socialized medicine for years. Just the most expensive and least efficient form of it possible.

Hospitals can't turn anybody away. Even if they're poor and uninsured, and have absolutely no hope of ever paying for their treatments. Those people go on to default on their bills, and the hospitals make up for the losses by charging the rest of us more.

We're already paying for universal health care! But preventative care is cheaper. If we just straight-up paid for universal preventative care, I guarantee you all insurance premiums would go DOWN. Your taxes would also go up, not gonna pretend otherwise. But since preventative care is cheaper, I'd assume the average person comes out ahead.

It's the same for contraception. I'd rather pay my share for everybody to have access to contraception than pay MORE for poor masses of uninsured children, who will need medical care their entire lives and likely produce little to help the economy in return. In my mind, it's far, far cheaper for society to simply provide these services up front -- I'd predict an order of magnitude cheaper.

We're a technology and service oriented society now. We no longer need poor, expendable masses to man the factories and fill the army. Contraception for all, and I for one will GLADLY pay my fair share for it.

Completely agree.

You think someone who couldn't even be bothered with removing a dead baby from their own trunk had the baby because they tried to find contraception or an abortion and couldn't????

The baby was had to increase the mothers welfare check so she could keep getting high and watching springer all day. You could have paved the sidewalks with birth control pills, it wouldn't have stopped her from "earning" her handout.

if you are going to kill it anyway may as well due it before they are fully formed and are able to feel pain and fear.

#10 - Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:00 AM EST Michelle-1583970

Excuse me dear, and who told you that a foetus does not " dell pain " if you in doubt, take the time and see some abortion medical videos, that will prove to you otherwise, also please note the data as to how many " aborted foetuses " are " killed " outside the womb, because they did not " die " as thought, some harrowing stories, i know, but reality needs to be known!

Eagle Averro, what is your point? Since you are against abortion so much, are you willing to take in all the babies that the mothers cannot care for or do not want? I didn't think so, just another fool with empty rhetoric.

Pjam, what's that old saying "it takes one to know one" that is you sir/mam.

full grown adults do this all the time

More likely an adult with the mentality of a spoiled teenager, it's what teaching everyone that they are "special" accomplishes.

Ya good point. This article offers no information except that a baby was found in a trunk of a car - and that MSNBC is still scratching it's head trying to figure out the difference between sex and gender.

Yep, I agree with that. That's why I didn't say who it was that I would have stuffed in the trunk in place of the baby. Just that whoever did it would have been my primary target.

MSNBC needs to get more facts before that start putting out these partial stories. And, yeah, sex or gender???? Or maybe the baby was 1 year old, or 12 months..........

Oh man UDunnoBro I sure wish she was, I would love to have 5 minutes with that POS!

Marilin I did not write this article however the difference between is clear and well known: Gender is what a person is identified as , and sex is an act that people engage in,even though most incorrectly use the word sex as a replacement for gender they are completely two different things, one being a verb (act) and the other a noun (name of a thing) and not interchangeable.

Although hopefully being a new born there was no sex involved except on the part of whomever its parents are.

Gender is behavior--expression, male or female. Discrimination against transsexuals, for instance, is gender discrimination because they are discriminated against because they are not behaving according to anatomical sex. Sex is biology, anatomy--male or female parts and physiology. Many people, about 1 in 2000 are intersexed--born part male and part female. So perhaps there really are more than two sexes.

What? Marilyn is right. Sex can be used as a noun and in this context means gender.

It has come to mean that, but that is not traditional. Gender is behavior--not anatomical sex. Behavior can be a noun. Describing a particular behavior is a verb.

Behavior is an action a verb ie a word that denotes action. A noun is a word that is the name of a person place or thing, such as gender which is a thing not an action.

gen·der

¹    [jen-der] Show IPA

noun
1.
Grammar .
a.
(in many languages) a set of classes that togetherinclude all nouns, membership in a particular class beingshown by the form of the noun itself or by the form orchoice of words that modify, replace, or otherwise referto the noun, as, in English, the choice of he to replacethe man, of she to replace the woman, of it to replacethe table, of it or she to replace the ship. The number ofgenders in different languages varies from 2 to morethan 20; often the classification correlates in part withsex or animateness. The most familiar sets of gendersare of three classes (as masculine, feminine, and neuterin Latin and German) or of two (as common and neuterin Dutch, or masculine and feminine in French andSpanish).

b.
one class of such a set.

c.
such classes or sets collectively or in general.

d.
membership of a word or grammatical form, or aninflectional form showing membership, in such a class.

sex
[seks]   Origin

sex

   [seks] Show IPA

verb (used with object)
.
to ascertain the sex of, especially of newly-hatched chicks.

Verb phrase
7.
sex up, Informal .
a.
to arouse sexually: The only intent of that show was to sexup the audience.

b.
to increase the appeal of; to make more interesting,attractive, or exciting: We've decided to sex up the moviewith some battle scenes.

Idiom
8.
to have sex, to engage in sexual intercourse.

Origin:
1350–1400; Middle English < Latin sexus, perhaps akin to secāre to divide ( see section)

Although sex may be used as a noun it is not proper in the context of the article given that gender had already been used and is a that may not be used as a verb. Even though sex may be used as a noun in some instances gender is never used as a verb, so the difference remains the same , gender being a noun that describes a person a noun that names a thing and sex being an act that one engages in a verb.

SEX:

noun

1.
either the male or female division of a species, especially asdifferentiated with reference to the reproductive functions.

2.
the sum of the structural and functional differences bywhich the male and female are distinguished, or thephenomena or behavior dependent on these differences.

3.
the instinct or attraction drawing one sex toward another, orits manifestation in life and conduct.

4.
coitus.

In the case of this article gender being a noun negates the use of sex as a noun. Should have learned that by grade 4, or at least before learning to type.

Thank you! I, too, pulled out my Websters.

The dictionary will often tell you that a dog is a carnivorous four-legged animal, but anyone who has ever owned a dog knows that a dog is much more than that. I have advanced degrees in writing. Plus, my definition comes from the San Francisco Department of Public Health. With the Women's Movement sex and gender became interchangeable, but that has not always been the case. And interchanging them becomes very confusing when trying to define the discrimination that transgendered individuals undergo. It is not sex discrimination; it is gender discrimination. Thank you!

Plus, my definition comes from the San Francisco Department of Public Health. With the Women's Movement sex and gender became interchangeable

Brenda:

I would be willing to agree to the following.

Plus, my definition comes from the San Francisco Department of Public Health. With the Women's Movement sex and gender became interchangeable in San Francisco.

But as for the general rule of English(or just about anything else)in the rest of the real world the ,the definitions provided by the San Francisco department of health (or any other department for that matter) apply only in San Francisco. The rest of us stick with the actual English language rules of use.:)

Phew, you have some real issues don't you?

Look, I come on these boards and I'm constantly reading comments from men about how even things are because women can have abortions, but they have no say so in it. And things are even because they have to pay child support, as if the mother also is not responsible for support. Men are not sought out when they abandon the pregnant women of their babies. They do not go through nine months of pregnancy, nor do they die in childbirth. Nor are they sought out if the child is abandoned, even though they may have also directly or indirectly participated in the abandonment of the baby. Further, men and some of their hegemonized women can't stand the truth.

Brenda, I usually don't get my dander way up over the posts on these vines. However, your post really raised my hackles. Women are many times just incubators. After the child is born, they, too, like deadbeat fathers, spend their time in bars, in bed with any person who passes by, have to be taken to court for child support, fail to be a functional and valuable part of a child's life. They may go through nine months of pregnancy, they may give birth, but they are not mothers. There is a difference. So if you want to re-write that post to indicate that some men are responsible fathers who are working their butts off to provide a decent home and security for their child, I might consider you have something worthwhile to say. Otherwise, you just sound like a very angry person. Oh, and what do you call a woman who leaves because being a mommy isn't fun? Not a mother, I promise you. And I know! This is the story of my grandson, being raised by his father. And that child is healthy, and happy, and secure, and loved. Grow up! Being a woman or giving birth doesn't make you a mother. Being a mother does!

Now that's funny right thar. Using Newt and love in the same sentence. The only thing he loves is himself.

Two really sad issues here. One, that a mother could do such a thing to an infant and two, that liberals turn every news story into a political issue. I would venture a quess that the mother wasn't thinking politics when this tragedy occured.

In your case it would have been advisable.

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@Jean, NBC Universal or Comcast, or whomever owns the NBC monopoly, decided long ago to outsource their proofreading and editing to China, where they only have to pay ten Renminbi per week (about US$1.57 at today's exchange rate) as opposed to over $15 per hour for an otherwise perfectly-qualified unemployed American.

Basically, it's a case of the huge corporations f**king Americans out of jobs and not caring if they produce a sub-par product because most of America can't write a proper sentence in English anyway, so who cares?

Just a few of us dinosaurs who went to school in the '60s, when kids LEARNED stuff in schools and the administrators weren't lazy-ass Ritalin pushers. Not many other people would either notice or take the time to say something about it.

"It don't mean nothing. It don't mean nothing. It don't mean nothing..."
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