Do you mean the Taliban are alive and well in Texas, not a big surprise!!!

The good part of that is we, as Americans, can change our leaders by voting them OUT of office. The poor people under the Islamist rule can't.

We need to vote every GOP incumbent out of office in the House and Senate this November.

It doesn't matter, while Texas and the feds bicker, the women get the shaft. Way to go politicians!

I would even say poor women will get the shaft, as will the taxpayers who will have to support all the babies who are born because of this idiocy.

what a bunch of bs...this is just another political move by Obama...women can get birth control for 10.00 a month at any walmart in the country. Buck up and quit blaming everyone else....just like the Fluke girl who went before congress saying her birth control would cost over 3000.00 for her time attending one of the top law schools in the nation. WTF? I as a woman believe in personal responsibility and don't believe my neighbor should pay for my birth control.

Just the opposite. It is the federal government trying to force a mandate on all of us. Even when birth control is provided, if it excludes programs that perform abortion it is penalized. It is the federal government marching down a path to KILL religious freedoms.

This is one of many reasons why we should be voting more women into legislative positions. Think about it - if the U.S. Congress were made up of more women than men, we would have a much better healthcare delivery system (women's health) and fewer wars. I'm up for that...

whatt??? Birth control for $10.00 at Walmart...same STUPID, uninformed rhetoric, coming from the Right! Planned parenthood performs all types of women's health care services. Abortions ONLY account for 3% of that care.

watt75

what a bunch of bs...this is just another political move by Obama...women can get birth control for 10.00 a month at any walmart in the country. Buck up and quit blaming everyone else....just like the Fluke girl who went before congress saying her birth control would cost over 3000.00 for her time attending one of the top law schools in the nation. WTF? I as a woman believe in personal responsibility and don't believe my neighbor should pay for my birth control.

Okay. Screw the $10 a month for birth control. First of all, $10 a month is a lot of money when you're living day-to-day. But, okay, screw it. So you think that birth control is the only service provided? Does your doctor just hand you a pack of pills and send you on your merry way? No, they don't. Total care involves full check ups and periodic pap smears and dealing with any complications with your reproductive system.

You sure you're a woman? The post sounds like it came from someone less informed.

Look. This is simple. If Texas WANTS to drive laws that are obviously counter to settled federal laws, then they need to push it back to the Supreme Court and change it that way. Their current method of selectively eliminating funding sources and creating untenable requirements on those providing women's health services is illegal, immoral, unethical, and otherwise trying to cram religion down everyone's throat... by using the very offices that are supposed to govern ALL peoples and religions.

I agree 100% with the federal position on this. They are taking the right stand and it's based on settled law and requirements not to discriminate.

As I am adamently pro-choice, I am offended by the Texas law forcing women to have sonograms. I am equally offended that the Obama administration, out of vindictivness and for political expediency, has chosen to punish the low-income women of Texas for what their politicians have done.

SI

Seattle - when my disabled sister was raped in 1995, I can only imagine what would have happened if she could not get "flushed" at the emergency room. If she had become pregnant (she was in her early 30's), would these wack jobs have wanted her to see a sonogram first? May God have mercy on their souls.

Bob48-22102- how is this the government trying to kill religious freedom?!!! The federal government is more so trying to protect religious freedom by saying you can't force your religious beliefs on everyone. If your religon doesn't believe in abortions fine then don't get one, but you're not a woman so that isn't your choice. However to say that because of your religion you aren't going to fund any program that provides abortions and birth controll that is forcing your religion on other people and THAT is someone trying to kill religious freedom. I guess you need to look up what freedom of religion means, because it means that the government won't influence or supress any religion and it also means that religion has no place in making the laws and determining what will be funded and what won't be funded by the GOVERNMENT whether that be local, state, or national. If you want a country that determines everything on your religion then go and move to another country.

If men could get pregnant

birthcontrol would be free to be purchased where ever-it would also be in beer-abortions would be free as well-and if they decided to stay pregnant they would bitch and complain all 9 month-they'd also be knocked out cold for the delivery and they'd expect a stay in the hospital until THEY are ready to go home-and the majority would ditch it all and run away if they were 24/7 care takers of children while running a household and going to college or working-or both.

...would these wack jobs have wanted her to see a sonogram first?

Yes, which is one of the reasons the law is obscene.

SI

The Religious Right trying to impose their belief system on the rest of us. Sounds just like Militant Islam.

Are you sure that people can't hold a minority opinion without a being a freak?

I'm not the Religious Right or a Muslim. I'm an atheist who is strongly against abortion. I believe that unborn babies are living human beings and no one has the right to kill one except under extreme circumstances.

I don't accept the belief that babies should be murdered because they are too expensive to live.

I don't accept the belief that a woman's convenience is more important than another person's life.

I don't believe that women who are too lazy and irresponsible to use birth control should have the right to kill children instead. And no, I don't believe that birth control fails very often, but in those 2% of cases when it does, that still doesn't give you the right to murder another human being.

As sick and sad as it is for everyone involved, I can accept murdering the child of a rapist. I would not do it, since the child could be put up for adoption, but I can accept another woman refusing to birth the child. But to murder a child after voluntarily conceiving it, either by choice or irresponsibility, should result in the death sentence, as should all deliberate murders. Period.

If you refuse to honor human life, you will not honor anything. You will live and think like animals. If a baby is not precious, neither will an old person matter. Then young adults won't matter unless they are rich.

We're there, aren't we? And abortion is a big part of the picture.

There must be hundreds of providers in Texas that can provide those services.

Why does the Obama Administration insist that Planned Parenthood be one of them. I suspect that if one of the other providers was excluded by Texas over a policy conflict, the Federal Government would not take a similar action.

IT IS POLITICS BY OBAMA - PURE AND SIMPLE.

Seattle Indie this is NOT about President Obama this is about Texas Governor Rick Perry defunding Planned Parenthood. If you don't live in Texas you have no idea how many poor people, depending on Family Planning, there are nor do you know how many jobs do not offer health insurance. Or the insurance is so expensive one can not afford to put their family on it.

Leave it to the Republicans to spin this as a President Obama decision when Rick Perry is behind it all.

Y'all ready to recall him YET?

So where were these laws all of those years that Obama was not the President?, it's not like he made them and decided not to follow them. BUSH had 8 years to follow them!

Who cares what Rick Perry wants or says? He doesn't want to be part of the US of A, anyway!!!!

Leave it to the Republicans to spin this as a President Obama decision...

rico:

I am not a Republican. My point is simple, two wrongs do not make a right.

SI

The federal government pays 90 percent of the cost and Texas puts up about $4 million a year.

Texas Governor Rick Perry, who called it an "egregious federal overreach."

Yeah perry, the fed pays 90 and you pony up 4 million and it is an overreach. Overreaching is when you force people to take vaccines manufactured by your corporate sponsors. Overreaching is when you shove your 'religious' believes onto the public. Time to exit stage right.

1) This is an egregious federal overreach.

2) This is polictically motivated.

3) Uhhhhh, what was that third thing again?

Sincerely,

Rick Perry

That's my favorite- birth control at Walmart for $10. I guess you can get your PAP smear in the row between cosmetics and Hallmark cards, too? Of all the most incredibly ignorant and stupid things that Fox News and their drones have tossed out, this one has to take first place, tied with "Pepper spray is a food product."

Stoops2Conquer

Re Marc2

Thought ever occur to you Marc2 that if the Federal Government were doing its job and enforcing the laws that already exists states like Texas and Arizona would not need to try to put a patch on the system to try to enforce the laws that the Federal government - under our current President - refuses to enforce? No, probably not and most likely never will.

Actually, laws not being enforced is a major hot button with me. But I'm not clear on what laws you are referring to here. Sounds more like a right wing immigration talking point to me. Let me lecture...

Bush was THE MASTER at picking and choosing enforcement. The "starve the beast" mentality targets specific parts of our laws and government deemed "unimportant" by the GOP and are starved either by removing funding or ignoring the laws altogether. Exampels? Sure...

Bush cut funds and personnel in the regulatory environment more than any past or present president. The results were lax regulations on the oil, coal, and other industries that resulted in higher pollution and less enforcement than ever. Obama has tried to put money and staffing back in place.

Bush cut funds and personnel aimed at border and immigration enforcement more than any president in the past or present. Obama has shipped more illegal immigrants back home than Bush ever dreamed of. Where was the outrage then?

Bush cut funding and staffing in the regulatory departments aimed at Wall Street and business whose job it was to monitor, investigate, and prosecute illegal business actions. They let Wall Street run free and businesses cheat. Obama has refocused the regulatory departments to both stadff correctly and to enforce current laws.

Want to talk about tax law enforcement and tax auditing?

"Starve the beast" serves two purposes. It causes federal dysfunction that the GOP likes to point out so it can "starve the beast" even more. AND, it makes for good fodder when the start wars and huge federal agencies and Medicare and tax breaks without funding a damn thing.

So which laws are you talking about "not enforcing" exactly?

"This is what Santorum is all about, More old tricks from the GOPigs and their Tea Retards"

Well Ghee If you can't pay for birth control pills or the abortion STOP having SEX!!! How hard is it to be responsible. It also takes two to tangle. Make the guy wear condoms or pay for the pills. Why should tax payers pay for ANYONE to have sex. My thought is is if they can pay for soap to keep it clean, they can damn sure pay to protect it!!!

There's also more then one way to skin a cat when it comes to sex without getting pregnant.

It's time to throw the bum in the White House out! His war War Against Women is getting ridiculous. I guess they do think so little of women that they want to stop helping provide healthcare to women of low income. That's what the stopping of the funding does.

What are the women going to do now? I guess they'll have to travel to one of the 10% of clinics that Texas will be able to keep open.

Personally, I think it's about time the States stand up to all the thugs in Washington.

The Democrats are so much better at politics than the Republicans it isn't funny.

The Democrats are doing everything they can to turn anyone they can against the GOP, and apparently, it's quite easy, as the Republicans are too stupid to realize they can't do anything about abortions.

We have a compromise for both sides. Abortions legal up to the end of the first trimester. Illegal, except for extenuating circumstances, after that.

Republicans are so stupid. The only way they can change the law is to control D.C., and the only way to do that is to get elected, but they keep cutting their own noses off just to spite their faces.

When it comes to politics, the Republicans are mere children.

carolanne1

You make very good points, but they are based on several premises... 1) that life begins at the moment of conception, and that 2) at that moment the sole life involved and considered is that of the fetus... not the mother. You also assume that mothers have no role or responsibility in the decision making after THAT point and that GOVERNMENT should have the role of defining, judging, and enforcing YOUR beliefs on all.

Not to be argumentative, but why aren't sperm "living"? What about the "egg"? How far back do you go and when to you remove mothers (and fathers) from the decision making process?

But let's go back to societal "traditions". I was told that I was born on a date-certain... my "birth-date". Virtually ALL my separable rights, my societal status, my documentation refers to that date and that event to be my beginning. The bible refers to birth as your beginning throughout it's verses. So, science aside, one could easily conclude that government's protection requirement should not and does not kick in until birth... until then the fetus is absolutely part of the mother's body. It is totally dependent and has identical support systems that supply BOTH as ONE.

So which interpretation is most logical? Which one is "right"? Which one is currently law and enforceable? Many would say the latter. Not say you, but that's your opinion.

So how, in a religious mind, is the science behind evolution not acceptable while the science behind birth is? Why does science trump the bible on when you are born but in most other matters?

Just thinking out loud here. What do YOU think?

witchrunner

It's time to throw the bum in the White House out! His war War Against Women is getting ridiculous. I guess they do think so little of women that they want to stop helping provide healthcare to women of low income. That's what the stopping of the funding does.

What are the women going to do now? I guess they'll have to travel to one of the 10% of clinics that Texas will be able to keep open.

Personally, I think it's about time the States stand up to all the thugs in Washington.

So it's the federal government's fault that a convict's child goes hungry because they put that child's father in jail for breaking the law? Same logic... very flawed.

If the federal government determines that they will remove funding to a state because the state is violating the rules for that funding, it's who's fault?

I'll even give you two guesses to make it fair here.

LOL

Until Christians pursue the halt to eating shellfish with as much vigor, I am throwing out the religious argument. If you want to argue from another point, fine, but once again, selective interpretation of religion fails.

This is another Republican overreach like when George W Bush ran his abstinence only BS campaign and teen pregnancy went through the roof. The Bible thumpers need to keep their religion out of our government or start paying their fair share of taxes.

Wow, it seems most people here did not read the article. It's very simple.

It states that a Texas program who helps poor women receive free birth control pills & free exams will be closed by the Obama admin. because this program does not allow Planned Parenthood to participate.

The Obama admin. is just doing a clever spin on this hoping stupid people will fall for their spin. It's working.

witchrunner? Please do your research. I would think the actions in the past few months by Republicans would leave you with NO doubt who has a war against women. They suddenly want to stop paying for birth control if you work for a Catholic company (though has been paid for years). They want to cut all funding for PP even though only 3% of what they do is abortions. Do they cut funding to private practice Dr's who perform abortions? NO. Think again. Just like the "hearing" the reps had on the birth control. NOT ONE WOMAN was on the panel. All men.

GLCSR--tell us that if you can't pay for birth control pills or the abortions, then stop having sex. Ummm, guy. The whole idea here is that women are already paying for something: health insurance. The new mandate states that all health insurers now have to include birth control as part of their policies, and that there cannot be a copay. But, women are paying for their health care.

In this case, we have women on Medicare. Medicare is health insurance that is paid for by the federal government (with a small co-pay by the states) for people who cannot afford health care. Anyone on Medicare is supposed to get the full, typical range of health care services. In Texas, they are trying to do an end-run around paying for women's healthcare (and birth control is just a typical part of women's health care) by refusing to fund it themselves but forcing the feds to pay for it. That is, Texas is mad because they want to play politics and only pay for the full range of healthcare for men--they thought they could get away with this because the federal government wouldn't leave women without healthcare.

It works like this--let's say that you have two people who have children that play together. One parent decides to refuse to offer food to the children when they are playing together because that parent is cheap--and keeps the money for some other purpose like balancing his/her checkbook. That parent thinks that there is no bad outcome to this decision (his/her own children will not go hungry) because the other parent is responsible enough to pay for the food because s/he doesn't want the children to go hungry. When one person/party is responsible, and the other is not, the irresponsible party has no negative outcome because the responsible party will pay for everything, whether s/he likes it or not, to avoid there being a bad outcome. The responsible party will wind up with no disposable income, while the irresponsible party has cash to spare.

This is the way that bullies work and the way that freeloaders work. Texas is one big welfare state--they have it rigged so that the federal government coughs up a huge portion of what Texas taxpayers ought to be paying for. They do this by refusing to fund things, like women's health care, which they think that Washington (the bleeding hearts who can't stand seeing anyone go hungry or without medical care) will pay for it. Notice one trick--they allowed illegal immigrants to come to Texas and stay just long enough to get on the census, and then only afterwards decided to "clean house." Notice that Bush was rarely criticized for failing to do anything about illegal immigration (the border was a sieve while he was president), and that the main arguments about illegal immigration came AFTER the census. Texas has a lot more representation in Congress than they deserve--as some of those representatives are there to represent illegals.

By the way, you do know that the principal reason that Texas has a "balanced budget" is that they divert money given to them by the federal government for other purposes and use it to instead balance their budget, right?

Washington has called their bluff. Washington is not going to fund their clinics any more--they can fund the clinics themselves. This is like the second parent saying--"Fine, if you won't provide food, then neither will I, and the children will go hungry until they get home. If it doesn't bother you, then apparently it shouldn't bother me either." The reaction of Texas is like the first parent then complaining that the second parent is "selfish." Bullies.

The problem for the left in dealing with the right is that the right is perfectly okay with causing a crisis, knowing that the left will be the responsible party and either compromise or take the hit and do something that will make taxpayers angry. If you want to talk about responsiblity, let's talk about how Texas is responsible for funding its own clinics, eh?

There is no reason to regard women's health care as "optional." If men can't afford to have their broken arms set, then they shouldn't play football or go off-roading or climb on roofs to hang Christmas tree lights. Most healthcare is needed because people don't sit around the house, completely immobile, other than eating rabbit food ("rabbit food" is my description of what other people call "healthy food"--nuts and twigs) and exercising to keep themselves "healthy." Sex is about as "optional" as any other activity that men engage in which also causes them to need healthcare--the only distinction is that men do not suffer any health ramifications from having it (well, unless they get an STD).

When Texas starts refusing to fund STD care for men because it encourages promiscuity, and when Texas starts refusing to fund parks and recreation facilities primarily used by men because it is "recreational" (let's not kid ourselves about those "family" activities--it is mostly men who fish and hunt and dirt bike), then we can discuss not funding birth control for women because it is "recreational." But, in any case, Washington is under no obligation to pick up the slack for Texas because Texas is being irresponsible.

Oh, yeah, and all that money that Texas is pretending that they spend on "illegals" because the feds don't enforce rules (yeah, Bush never enforced them, which is why we now have many millions of "illegals")--I hope you are figuring out that the money mostly comes from the feds and not from Texas, right? That's why no one complained, under Bush, about all of them.

Washington just stopped being a bunch of bleeding hearts in this case--welcome to the new reality. I believe that Democrats, as a whole, should just play hardball and allow people to go hungry, women to not get healthcare, and children to go without vaccinations rather than being blamed for being the "spend, spend, spend" party. They can also start cutting funding for things like recreational facilities and benefits to farmers and ranchers and industry and funding to the military on the same bases that Republicans use to cut the social net. It wasn't that long ago that Democrats were the party of fiscal conservatism--and I believe that they should be so again.

If Rick Perry is so suddenly worried about women's health care, then he can pay for it--the Republicans can take this hit. Thanks.

With all these new Tea Party laws rolling back womens' rights, it seems they want Government so small they can force a doctor to molest a teenager with it...

So now, in Labtard logic, they support women's health by closing clinics that are serving women, including birth control.

Wake up people !!! It is about THE NANNY-STATE CONTROL. Amoral secularists can't stand the idea that anyone has a different belief system than theirs.

If it were about "women's health" they would work to include the Planned Parenthood clinics without forcing closure of existing poor women's clinics.

Is Texas one of those states that's trying to prevent people from voting in November?

Texas, show some intelligence, recall Gov. Perry. Send the GOPeeps packing before they come for your rights.

Really?-1739510

@wives fan

They suddenly want to stop paying for birth control if you work for a Catholic company (though has been paid for years).

Not true!

Catholic organizations have NEVER paid for BC before! The whole nonsense over Ms. Fluke was caused by her wanting to force Georgetown, a Jesuit school to cover the cost of her BC pills.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/02/07/420114/many-catholic-universities-hospitals-already-offer-contraception-as-part-of-their-health-insurance-plans/

What is Texas' problem? The Catholic Church will donate any money needed to cover medical bills, health care costs, housing, food, and any other service that is needed for any and all babies born, anywhere in the world, even right there in Texas. Just ask them. The church is sitting on a whole city-state of gold and they're just waiting to give it all away to the poor and needy like their god told them to.

Again, the RCC will donate the money. They're probably writing huge checks right now to cover the costs of all health care for poor people, and food, and housing.

Right? Right?

Or are they worried they might need the money to cover more lawsuits?

Disgusting.....

The Democrats always say the Republican are AGAINST women's issues. Well, low and behold, here we are at the TRUE doorstep of the Democrat's replusion of women. Another Democratic milestone AGAINST women's issues by a Liberal Cabinet member and this administration in general.

Go figure.

Time for ALL women to stage an Occupy protest at the doorsteps of the White House, if the Obamas are at home.

Another reason this Democrat will NOT VOTE for Mr. Obama for re-election. Wow, the reasons are really adding up at this point.

Really, are you denying the information of protesting the web site? Debunk the story with another true source of information then we will debate but I don't expect a Conservative site to admit that the Republicans are barking up the wrong tree.

Perry said the decision by the Obama administration was "politically motivated,"

Oh, the Irony.

marc2: You need to pay attention to the news. Have you missed attacks by libs against conservs calling it the "Republicans War on Women?" Obviously, this goes to prove the point that they are just full of BS. Obama has shown that it is more important to allow women to kill their babies than it is for women to receive real health care. Heck, they came out and said as much. Texas has been operating under a waiver. The decision to not extend the waiver means that they would rather kill babies than provide for health care for women. So, it is reasonable to reach the conclusion that Obama and his administration are against women. According to the article, they are against 130,000 women, who will go without care all because of the final decision of the administration. It could be otherwise if they were to choose to do so. It's that simple.

yes, you can get some birth control at walmart for around $10. however, you are forgetting that you need a prescription in order to do that. the only way to get a prescription is to see a doctor. by closing facilities, this limits some women's ability to get to a doctor and/or forces her to go elsewhere rather than being able to choose who she sees for her medical care. don't be so quick to blame the president or sandra fluke for your misunderstanding of the issue.

Well Really, it explains your warped misinformation. It's a fact that some states require Catholics to provide birth control to their employees.

Boston College, the six former Caritas Christi Catholic hospitals in Massachusetts, and other Catholic organizations that are located in one of the 28 states that already require employers to provide contraception benefits could have self-insured or stopped offering prescription drug coverage to avoid the mandate — but didn’t do so. Instead, they — like many Catholic hospitals and health care insurers around the country — chose to meet the needs of the overwhelming majority of Catholic women and offer these much needed services.

Really?-1739510

I love watching my posts as they are "collapsed by the community."

It is a badge of honor. Especially when the post is banal.

That's when you know they are reading them!

WOW!! Talk about an ego problem. You consider it a badge of honor to spout misinformation and watch people collapse your post? What a troll.

@ Really?-1379510

Sounds like you have done your homework and, most importantly, you do your own thinking. I wish there were more of that going around these days.

Woman + Voting Republican = Stupid Woman

Simple and easy, here's how rick perry does government:

"Why are we spending all this money on fire fighting and wildfires? I think we need more tax breaks!"

*Half of the state catches fire*

"WAH! I need federal funding to fight fires! This was totally unforeseen! But I won't publicly admit asking for it so I can keep talking about how Texas doesn't take in any federal funding and how evil federal funding is."

"So if we cut planned parenthood we lose medicaid support? Who needs the federal government and their blood money!"

*Federal funding to medicaid is cut, just as they were warned*

"WAH! How could this happen? This makes no sense! All we are doing is breaking federal laws for how the money is provided to us, a privilege we receive for following these laws!"

Honestly, if the feds don't cut funding I will be disappointed, we can't allow states to just take money and not follow the conditions of taking that money. The feds aren't saying "if you want to provide healthcare you have have to provide planned parenthood" they are saying "if you want our money, you have to follow our rules that we established, if you want to do it your own way, we welcome you to try but don't expect us to make a special exception".

Its just one step away from saying "I'd like stimulus money to hire fire fighters" and then taking that money and funding tax breaks or a new pool for the governor.

If you are going to receive federal money for your programs, follow the federal laws that are required. Rickypoo does not want to follow fed laws, then cries like a baby because he is not getting his way. What did he think would happen when he defunded the program? Texans need to defund his paycheck.

Really can you prove they don't? I have shown where it has been stated so you show where it's false. Just saying you don't believe it because it came from a progressive site doesn't win a debate.

Obviously you searched that website out. I did a similar search, and I could not find another source for your assertions.

You also couldn't find a source to dispute it so I will take the story as fact until you find something that disputes it.

O'bama launches Operation "War against Women"....I smell another Nobel Peace Prize coming on!!!

Maybe the woman in this country need to start taking control of their bodies and show some respect. If you woman want to have sex then make the guy put on a condom or better yet keep your legs close if you dont want to get pregnant or cut back on your lovely entagables to pay for pills but to use abortion for birth control to me is sick. Also to make us tax payers pay for your sexual habits that to makes me sick. I was brought up the old school which today men and woman or young girls and men have no morals or values anymore. ITS NOT A HEALTH ISSUE , ITS A PITIFUL EXCUSE TO MAKE US TAX PAYERS TO GET STUCK WITH COST!!!!.

I think you are misreading the Supreme Court decision. I did not take the time to read the whole decision but from what I read they are saying that a church can stipulate requirements for employment such as "To be eligible to be considered “called,” a teacher must complete certain academic requirements, including a course of theological study" so they can chose only those that have filled those requirement. Now to say they can discriminate because or race, sex, national origin, etc. is a stretch.

I will take the time to read more later.

However, just to be fair, lets say that some organizations do provide it. So what? The churches are not all in the same diocese. Would you treat cities in the same vein? If Miami provided it, but New York did not, would you say that Miami was right if they voluntarily provided it?

I believe that comment you made was that they never supplied BC pills. My comment was to show that they have.

Lets see.... Two Wrongs do not make a Right...

What this comes down to is Texas does not want to use medical providers for Medicaid if they also perform abortions. There are a few doctors who will take Medicaid, but many won't or limit their Medicaid patients because it doesn't pay well. Essentially Texas is saying if an OB/GYN is willing to perform abortions, they don't want that doctor participating in Medicaid, despite the fact that Medicaid doesn't cover abortions. The real problem here is since Planned Parenthood gets two-thirds of its funding from sources other than the government, it is one of the main Medicaid providers for women, because it doesn't solely rely on Medicaid payments to pay for service.

What the federal government is saying is that Texas can't refuse to use a doctor in Medicaid for women's health services just because that doctor also performs abortions.

Now the GOP knows how it feels to be held up with a gun and a mask, but they do it all the time in Congress don't they ...... LOL

If all the women refused to have sex until the government got out of their lives I wonder how long it would take before men started bitching about it and quoting the bible about their marital rights. I don't think they would last a week.

The truth is out.

The Democrat/Liberal/Progressive/Socialists

VALUE ABORTION OVER WOMEN'S HEALTH!

They say: "NO abortions - NO women's healthcare funding".

Read the article carefully people. The Obama admin. wants to close the program down, not the State of Texas.

The State of Texas wants to keep the program open to help the poor women get birth control pills & health screenings.

YOUR religious freedom does not give you the right to shove your beliefs up another woman's vagina. Religious freedom is about giving each person the right to choose what their morals and beliefs allow them to do. I don't agree with abortion but I will not stop someone else to do what they feel is right for their own life. Besides that, Planned Parenthood is not the only place to get abortions, what is Texas legislature planning on doing, interrogating every doctor about whether they perform abortions?

I have known a young woman that considered an abortion at Planned Parenthood. After extensive interviews, explaining all of her options (including adoption), examinations, and showing her an ultrasound, they refused to give her an abortion because they didn't feel that she was sure of her decision. They are not grabbing pregnant off the street and trying to get them to have abortions. In fact, its quite the opposite.

I also think its pretty insane that the same people trying to get rid of abortions are the same people complaining about paying for "welfare mothers". Abstinence is a great idea but you can't bury your head in the sand and think that's going to be the solution. Humans by nature, want to reproduce. So if you don't want to pay for more unwanted babies, you have to give other options.

Caroline and others. If you have not ever read Genesis 2-7 please do so. I bet you allow your priest, bishop, minister tell you want it says and you never looked.

It reads: "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breathe of life; and man became a living soul". This says very clearly that man does not become a living soul until the first breathe of life.

Personhood. If personhood becomes the norm, and health care stays the same, what happens to the down babies, the heart problem babies. the babies born too early with no lungs....pre-existing conditions and not covered? Probably. Familes should fight to get rid of the on coming personhood bills, as if the women are always pregnant, the men would have to support a dozen or so bills with no way to pay for medicial care for their sick little ones. Men do you really want to be supporting so many children?

The really funny thing in this is how clear it is that all the liberal posters did not bother reading the MSNBC article. I'll simplify it for you. TEXAS did not cut off support for birth control; they were supporting the same number of poor and underprivileged women after they decided to no longer use Planned Parenthood as they were before. 130K poor and underprivileged women were being supported by Texas with contraceptive care and birth control without Planned Parenthood, and 120k women were being supported with Planned Parenthood.

OBAMA is the one who cut off these women’s access to contraceptive care. So while all you are complaining about republicans, right wingers and tea baggers, all you are doing is proving you did not read because none of those groups cut off support for the women of Texas, democrats, liberal and progressives did. So who has a war against Women again?

This is simply more proof that Women, especially poor women are nothing more than pawns and cannon fodder for the DNC to be used and abused on the whims of the Democrats. Their suffering is simply a way for democrats to try and drum up votes. Pathetic, anyone who really cared about women and not politics would be deserting the Democrats and demanding that Sibelius resign.

Republicans = American Taliban. Of course they don't want women to have access to birth control... they want them barefoot, pregnant and silent. Sad we are still fighting for basic women's rights in 2012 in America.

Maybe the woman in this country need to start taking control of their bodies and show some respect. If you woman want to have sex then make the guy put on a condom or better yet keep your legs close if you dont want to get pregnant or cut back on your lovely entagables to pay for pills but to use abortion for birth control to me is sick. Also to make us tax payers pay for your sexual habits that to makes me sick. I was brought up the old school which today men and woman or young girls and men have no morals or values anymore. ITS NOT A HEALTH ISSUE , ITS A PITIFUL EXCUSE TO MAKE US TAX PAYERS TO GET STUCK WITH COST!!!!.

Did you know that vasectomies are covered by the vast majority of insurance programs? Why are you whining about the cost of oral contraceptives but not vasectomies?

Oh, right. You're an idiot. Nevermind.

Texas wants to secede from the Union. I say, Go for it! Thank God I don't live there.

Really?-1739510 @1.56

- Maybe you haven't noticed but 6 of the 10 largest pharmaceutical companies are based in EUROPE: Roche (Switzerland), GlaxoSmithKline (UK), Novartis (Switzerland), Sanofi (France), AstraZeneca (UK/Sweden) and Bayer (Germany.) Plenty of innovation and new drugs coming from them. Many of the drugs introduced to the US market have been used for years overseas.

I am pro contraception because I don't like paying to raise poor people's kids and I don't like abortion. You can't be "pro-life" and anti-contraception. The whole "begins at conception" thing? If you actually believed that you'd be rabidly pro-condom. But I don't really see the fundamentalists pushing condom use to stop the "genocide".

You would counter that people shouldn't be having sex if they aren't willing to reproduce or aren't within the bounds of marriage. This is absolutely ridiculous, but I'll grant you this absurd point. However, there's a "genocide" or "holocaust" going on with all this birth control use, so you're pushing condoms to prevent these murders, right?

Obviously murder is more evil than sex, so that's why the Pope is so big on condoms. Right?

Rick Perry, You have a choice:

1. Allow women the freedom to choose their own medical provider, rather than you choosing it for them; or

2. Do not accept tax payer funds. Ball is in your court.

The male's responsibility is barely addressed here. Should the taxpayer be responsible for the irresponsible behaviour of people ? A condom, birth control pills - skip a Happy Meal or a sixpack or a pack of cigarettes. Poor people smoke in larger numbers than others.

For the other tests, there is always ....... drumroll....... Mexico !

Look if tea bagging republican extremist in government are going to continue with this ignorance and intolerant aptitude for advocating of state rights then here ;] Let us really have only states. To each state there OWN country. Why have the United States? Simply have 50 countries unto themselves. Tea bagging republican extremist can move to and watch FAIL there own little countries such as Texas while moderates unaffiliated and democrats move to there respective countries. And that will be the litmus. The TEST of all tests. We will then see who's ideas are more than mighty. Who's ideas are truly successful and true. I wish to see the right fail as the failures and quitters that they are.

As all of my readers know I predicted this down turn and demise of the GOP years ago in the exact fashion it is happening in. To the "T" if you will. To hate children women and the elderly with such vigor such zest and fervor is simply unordained. It is sacrilegious. It is not as the bible would have you do unto others. To pigeon hole an actual FEW passages from the bible to justify attempts at such nonsense should leave one imperical to the WANT and need for knowledge. Not its opposite. Yet here they are in defiance. To what? A rebel part without cause as it seems to have shaping up.

Furthermore to KNOW as I do and have and will that the GOP is done for the next 63 years brings me HOPE. But the damage they cause to appease there radicals on the way out is mired with contempt. To ignore the true GOP base the moderates of the party is ignorance in bliss equated only by stupidity. Because reason is lacking and has no place at there table they have room only to run to the precipice and beyond. Furthering NOTHING but the demise they sorely deserve. Hate contempt and intolerance breed nothing but stupidity and destruction. To KNOW history and learn little to NOTHING from it is what my friends? Is what? ; ]

Cheers

" ... to KILL religious freedoms. ... "

Lol. The Federal Government doesn't need "to KILL religious freedoms". You are doing a fine job of that all by yourselves.

And here goes the Right, again. It's ALL Obamas fault. Rules made by someone else? Obamas fault. Economy driven into the ditch? Obamas fault. Banks get bailed out? Obamas fault. The sky is blue? Obamas fault. The Religious Right is a bunch of twits? Obamas fault.

Everything is Obamas fault. This fact is brought to you by the "personal responsibility" crowd. By the "family values", fear, hate, ignorance and intolerance crowd. Better known as the American Right.

Huh, imagine that.

Well, the Douche bag Party who like to pretend they represent all the Republicans that really matter of COURSE do not really wants small government. They want BIG government, just that does what they want it to.

Thinking conservatives don't associate themselves with that nonsense.

Well look who the governor is: a Southern hayseed dumb-ass.

If anyone can remember back to the 1980's, Argentina - being an officially Catholic nation - had long banned the use of contraceptives...and had an extremely high birth rate among the poor (because wealthy women were able to get contraceptives AND abortions by flying out to countries where they were legal). Babies were abandoned in doorways, toddlers left right out on the streets, and these abandoned children ran in packs for survival. They stole, fought over food in garbage cans, traded sex for food and clothing, and tried to protect themselves from police "pest control" squads who hunted them down and killed them. When all of this was exposed in articles in LIFE and National Geographic magazines as well as on our national news and the BBC, Argentina was forced to admit that its policies were badly failing and morally far worse than providing birth control.

We already have more kids in foster care than resources or personnel to care for them. There are kids languishing in the care system waiting for adoptive parents...unfortunately, most of them are not white and perfectly healthy newborns and all too often they end up never being adopted. Instead they "age out" of the system and end up largely joining the ranks of the homeless. There are tens of thousands of abandoned/runaway kids under the age of 18 living in the streets and doing whatever they have to to survive and protect themselves, and many of them end up the victims of pimps, pedophiles, and criminal gangs. If churches and the GOP were putting their money where their mouths seem to be, ALL of these children would have already been adopted into loving homes.

Instead, they are hell-bent on policies that would see even more children brought into this kind of misery by obstructing or denying affordable access to contraceptives. And more women will be suffering and dying from medical conditions that can be treated if caught early through affordable health care services, which will leave more children orphaned. Right now medical debt is the largest cause of bankruptcy in this country. People are scared of their medical bills, scared to seek treatment because they can't afford it, and scared of what an accident or illness will do to their family's financial status. We are the ONLY first-world nation without universal healthcare coverage...and if you took a look at recent rankings for best countries to live in, all of them were nations with universal healthcare.

On the women's rights front, some of the rhetoric I've heard in various evangelical Christian Taliban venues would see us females reduced to illiterate, uneducated, chattel property with no rights over our own lives, no protection from domestic violence or rape, and without even the right to say "no" to conjugal sex when we are ill or incapacitated. Some lawmaker up in Wisconsin wants to make giving birth out of wedlock an act of child abuse with stiff jail time and a felony record. Some really extreme voices would have any kind of extramarital sex a felony crime...you know like it is in many Middle Eastern and African countries and India, although our home-grown extremists would not make it a stoning offense. My bad...I thought this was the 21st century not the 12th.

Could somebody tell me how any of this would make our nation stronger, more advanced, or economically secure? Because I'm just not seeing it.

What is it with you Leftist ignorami? This is just political theater staged by the Obama administration so it can funnel more money to Planned Parenthood in other states. Not dissimilar to channeling money to green energy and unions to increase Democratic fundraising from our tax dollars. If they were truly concerned that contraception is a health issue they wouldn't withhold money simply because PP can't get it.

Violating the core beliefs of any religious organization by forcing them to do something that goes against their beliefs is "impeding the free exercise" of their religion.

They are NOT exercising a religion, they're exercising a BUISNESS!

Just more Obama vs America as usual :

Obama Administration blocks Texas voter ID law

"The DOJ has no valid reason for rejecting this important law, which requires nothing more extensive than the type of photo identification necessary to receive a library card or board an airplane," he said.

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott has defended the law, saying it imposes "minor inconveniences on exercising the right to vote."

Voters in the state would be required to present one of seven types of government-issued photo identification, including a driver's license, a passport or a concealed handgun permit. Those lacking the ID would be given a provisional ballot, but the voter would have to present an approved document to the registrar's office within six days after the election.

Those lacking an acceptable identification would be given a free voter identification card."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/12/politics/texas-voter-law/index.html?hpt=hp_bn3

Not only is America for sale, it is being given away to criminals by even worse criminals, Democrats.

Or women could stage a nationwide sexual boycott. Within a few weeks, if not days, men would see things in a whole new light.

I have always wondered why when it comes to birth control women blame men? Seems to me that other then rape, women control the birth rate and who gets pregnant. I certainly control myself to that extent. I don't want a child to grow up in this environment and therefor won't. If i could not afford birth control, then I would not have sex, simple as that. Either way, it's my decision, not the men's. That being said, why don't women get involved in politics and change the laws concerning our bodies? For myself, I take full responsibility for my actions concerning sex, contraceptives, and child birthing.

Sara - at this point I don't know if men know when their zippers are up or not. Seems to me so many are now being exposed.,

Don't forget to drop a couple of aspirins in the zip lock too!

Brenda, that's all well and fine, but there are many low income women that do NOT have health insurance for what ever reason, and count on Planned Parenthood for pap smears, and other women's health issues. It's NOT all about deciding whether or not to have a child.

I am all for that! If the old men of this country deny women decent healthcare and low cost birthcontrol pills, then women should all keep their legs together. NO SEX for any man until this problem gets settled. If the women of this country would unite, we would get a lot done. On the other side of the subject, doctors should not be handing out Viagra pills like they are candy. Men should have to jump through just as many hoops to get their erection pills as we do to get birthcontrol pills. Insurance covers one, they should cover BOTH.

No one is denying women low cost health services. In all communities, they have a health clinic that has low and free healthcare services for women, men, and children. Get over the planned parenthood deal. If they get any government money, they should be made to stop ALL abortions. If a woman gets pregnant and does not want the child, give the baby up for adoption. There are plenty of families where the woman cannot get pregnant and would LOVE to adopt the child.

Or

nsnash14: do you know how many children are living in foster homes, just waiting and praying for someone to want them? How many of those children have YOU adopted? Do you even volunteer for Big Brothers/Big Sisters so these children can have the benefit of knowing good, decent adults? It's great to sit there in front of your computer telling women who find themselves pregnant, and don't want the baby to have it and adopt it out, but you are a hypocrite if you aren't following your own advice about adopting a baby.

Or women could stage a nationwide sexual boycott. Within a few weeks, if not days, men would see things in a whole new light.

It doesn't even have to be all women--just every wife and mistress of a politician. You can better believe that if the politicians didn't get any until they treated women with respect, at home, in the bedroom, and in the national and state legislatures, the policies would would change so fast, the pace would make the passage of the Patriot Act appear like it was in gridlock.

Rich...every man that's been married for any amount of time already knows that, yet, nothing changes.

Brenda1964 - believe it or not it is not all about you. Sorry to break the news I was responding to the original post.

As usual, this whole contraception blow up is just a contrived argument by the left. It is not about anything other than money and votes. No one is trying to take away your access to birth control, repoductive service, health care, etc. I asked you whining lefties for (and I'm still waiting for) the proof or video of a US congressman or senator demanding the elimination of birth control. I keep hearing the left bleet about it but I haven't seen one because it hasn't happened and it doesen't exist.

Fluke and these women whining about a "war on women" are just a group that refuse to take responsibility for themselves. I love the two faced position of these women. They want to scream at the top of their lungs how it's their body so they get to make all the decisions when it comes to their reproductive choices. But then they turn around and whine when men say fine but if it's all your choice then you pay for it. Should you decide to get pregnant and have the child and we don't want a child, then you pay for it. Should you decide to have the abortion and we want the child, then you pay for the abortion. If you want sex and don't want to get pregnant, go get yourselves birth control, a girl friend, or a BOB. Our taxes fund it so you can get birth control free from clinics, schools, etc. everywhere. Even, private organizations provide it low cost. If you want the all the control, then you accept and pay for all the consequences. If you refuse or are incapable of accepting the responsibility or consequences of your own actions, then you don't deserve to be in control of your own choices.

So Brenda, you want every wife to tell their husband "No more sex because I'm done having kids?" I bet your husband will be out of the door in a blink.

really...YUP and the Right is the "clowns" Men need to BUTT out of woman's issues. BTW Most woman think "Viagra" should be banned. (Who wants an impotent man chase them around all day?) Get over your self...really! NO...REALLY!

Unfortunately there are still many women out there that all for the "I love you, girl. Don't make me wear a condom" or some other other inane comment about not wanting to use protection. Personally, I've never fallen for it, but there are (apparently) many women who have (unless they REALLY wanted to be single mom's). I do think there is some blame on the men, as they are usually the ones pressuring the girls. However, some blame can be placed on the women too. I think any blame should be equally shared between the couple because it does take two to make the fetus.

I have always taken my birth control/protection very seriously. When I was still in school, I didn't want any children. Not even my husband can make me change my mind on that. I control when I am ready to have a kid, and that's that.

Its hard for me to believe that we are having any discussions surrounding contraception in this day and age. Contraception was one of the greatest inventions of the 20th century; right up there with penicillin and microchips. This is a country founded on freedom. Just because your religion doesn't like a certain procedure/drug/etc, doesn't mean you have the right to dictate that to anyone else. Your religion may not accept abortion, but that doesn't mean you have the right to dictate that to anyone else.

By trying to eliminate abortion through these backdoor laws, these politicians are forcing their religious dogma on others. We can only guess the reasons behind women having abortions, since the reasons aren't tracked, but it is their right to have them. These people that value a growing glob of cells more than the woman are essentially saying that blob of cells are more important than the woman -basically reducing her to nothing more than a breeder. If that's all you think women are good for, then you have another thing coming.

lonesomegeorge2012

Well I'd hope her husband loves her for who she is and not because he gets to have sex with her. If her husband leaves her because she doesn't want to have sex then he shouldn't have been married at all.

it is politics by rick perry - pure and simple.

...and the right wing extremists of Texas are different than the Taliban how exactly?? They don't demand burkas be worn?? This is absolutely outrageous in this day and age to even be having this discussion about LEGAL abortions (paid for privately with NO tax dollars as required by federal law already) and LEGAL contraceptives. Republicans already face a 15% gender gap and that was BEFORE vaginal probes and this nonsensical argument over controlling women's choices (by the "party of less government" ridiculously.).If ever there was a reason to get every last Republican out of office--this is it.

DZAFFINA

Did you miss the part of who is cutting the funding?

The federal government will withdraw funding for a Texas program providing more than 100,000 poor women with birth control and other health services because Planned Parenthood clinics are not allowed to participate, a U.S. Health and Human Services spokeswoman said on Friday.

This is just more BS by Obama in claiming it is Republicans waging a war on Women. Actually it is Obama throwing anyone under the bus, in this case women in Texas, to try to get re-elected. It is sad so many of his supporters can't add 2 and 2 and see the big picture.

As you can see it is the Texas legislature that is going to pick up the slack caused by Obama's politicing:

Stephanie Goodman, spokeswoman for the Texas Department of Health and Human Services, said money to pay for the program would be diverted from others that are under budget - though she didn't offer specifics. If that doesn't cover the costs, she said, the state would increase its deficit to pay for the services because officials believe that if low-income women don't have access to birth control, the birth rate would rise and cost the state another $57 million in maternity bills.

If the majority of women refused to have sex until the government got out of their reproductive lives how long would it be before men had a twitchy fit. We'd see them protesting their rights probably within the week. That's because it's always their rights not our rights.

Ladies, some of us men are actually on you side. If men are going to be put through months of "I am not in the mood" could you at least findout what side we are on. Don't punish the guys that are on your side. BTW no sex is bad but not that bad. If you really want to get our attention talk to us about it during the game (any sport) and just keep talking on and on and on and on and on and on so we can't watch the game in peace.

I wonder how a comment with almost 300 votes can be "collapsed by the community", it sounds like collapsed by the censorship bureau.

Darthdon Comment collapsed by the community

The Religious Right trying to impose their belief system on the rest of us. Sounds just like Militant Islam.

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Shame Shame Shame on you Rick Perry! How dare you make my decisions and choices or rather lack there of for me! Planned Parenthood also does pap smears for cancer screenings for those who do not afford them any other way. Lets be fair then, stop prostrate screening for men as it takes two to tango. Talk about the government interfering and regulation. Again Shame Shame Shame on you Rick Perry!

shaking... the federal money comes from the federal government. if the federal law says that planned parenthood is eligable for the federal money, perry is playing politics by saying that planned parenthood can not have the money. so what if every governor wants to decide where and who gets federal tax dollars in their states? as i said befor its politics by rick perry pure and simple. as long as perry is taling federal dollars than he need to abide by the rule like every other governor.

Shaking my head-2479300

As you can see it is the Texas legislature that is going to pick up the slack caused by Obama's politicing:

Stephanie Goodman, spokeswoman for the Texas Department of Health and Human Services, said money to pay for the program would be diverted from others that are under budget - though she didn't offer specifics. If that doesn't cover the costs, she said, the state would increase its deficit to pay for the services because officials believe that if low-income women don't have access to birth control, the birth rate would rise and cost the state another $57 million in maternity bills.

It's good to see that particular gov employee doing her job and helping women get the services they need. The legislature gets what they deserve here. If they want federal tax dollars, they have to play by federal rules.

The unfortunate thing here is that it's the women who are losing. It would've been much better for the federal gov to file suit against Texas to change the law, then to pull funding from other working programs. Of course, that would take several years. Oy. Can we just please stop legislating health issues?!

my wife went to the gyno office today and they found republicans in her uterus.

Speaking as an adoptee and responsible single mother myself, no woman who has a baby should EVER give away their flesh and blood, and for someone to say that is an alternative is horribly mistaken. No matter how hard you try to get over the fact that you were given away out of conveinence, you can't. I'm SO SICK of these a*holes touting the 'adoption option'. Accept your mistake, have your child, and raise it to be a happy and beneficial member of society.

If you were truly speaking for all adoptees, instead of adoptees who have some fantasy of what "accepting your mistake" would actually look like, you'd have a point. Abortion is legal Kimberly. It's not going to become illegal ever again. None of that changes the fact some people will have children and shouldn't and that rather than raise the "mistake"...would be better off not waiting until the state has to take that child away because of abuse or neglect. Unfortuantely for those children who are legally basically no more than their parents' property, that won't be happening either.

Texas recently beat Mississippi in a race to dead last in high school graduations. At the
same time, Texas may 'boast' that it is 'number one' in executions, number 'one'
in the number of children living in poverty, number one the number of murders
per one thousand persons, number one in various forms of industrial pollution!
Number one in the race to bottom.

@Brenda

It's not as simple as you make it sound. From a legal standpoint, it is pretty black and white; morally and emotionally, not so much.

The law says we have the right to choose, and I support that. A woman should not be forced to carry an unwanted child. BUT, if there is a father in the picture then it should be discussed if they have a decent relationship of any kind. Yes, it is the woman's body, but the child belongs to both. I have seen more than one man devastated by his partner having an abortion with no discussion or respect for him as a potential father. One of my best friends and his girlfriend had an unplanned pregnancy because the birth control failed. He begged her to have the baby, told her he would take full responsibility, cover all of her medical expenses until after the birth, and raise the child on his own; she did not even have to be involved unless she wanted to. He was even willing to pay all of her bills from the time she had to stop work until 3 months after she had the baby. She terminated anyway. I think that was unforgivable on her part. He deserved some consideration as the father since he was willing to step up and take on far more than his share of responsibility.

Not even Mississippi can spare Texas its dubious record of the highest rate of residents without medical insurance.

...and I've seen many more women devastated by the man who leaves, saying it's her 'problem.' The numbers are irrelevant and anecdotes don't matter. What you are really doing is making the argument for choice. No woman should ever be forced through a pregnancy she does not want and this is not the government's decision to make.

So let me get this right...contraception is free to women who otherwise can't qualify under normal Medicaid procedures, but poor Ms. Fluke can't get contraception because she has too little money to afford it and it is too expensive for her to get? Uh huh.

I think this decision is a great one, not because I support killing unborn babies--I don't. I would like to think this is a first unraveling of the truly bad policy the USA has been following for decades where the feds should pick up the tab for what ought to be a state matter. If Texans want to give these women free services and pay for it out of state funds then by all means, go ahead. But why should people in Vermont, or North Dakota, or Oregon, help pay for what the people in Texas want?

This goes far deeper, obviously, and so deep in fact that probably most every liberal in the USA will never comprehend it, but it has to be a good first step that even liberals are supporting the decision to stop spending federal dollars for a state program.

Did any of you libs bother to read the article? The state of Texas and the other states provides free women's health services to those that can't afford it. IT WOULD APPEAR THAT LIBERALS INTEND TO BE MORE THAN WILLING TO SACRIFICE WOMEN'S HEALTH IN ORDER TO DECLARE A VICTORY. First all the liberals diversting their donations from Susan G. Komen and now trying to end State support of women's health issues.

brenda1964

I have always wondered why when it comes to birth control women blame men? Seems to me that other then rape, women control the birth rate and who gets pregnant. I certainly control myself to that extent. I don't want a child to grow up in this environment and therefor won't. If i could not afford birth control, then I would not have sex, simple as that. Either way, it's my decision, not the men's. That being said, why don't women get involved in politics and change the laws concerning our bodies? For myself, I take full responsibility for my actions concerning sex, contraceptives, and child birthing.

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Brenda1964's comments collapsed by community. Very typical of posters on this site ,the electronic equivocation of a child putting their fingers in their ears and reciting the old standard "nah nah nah nah" when the hear some truth that they would rather not accept.

Not a single thing she said was in any way out of line , she did not insult anyone nor break any rule of this forum except having the nerve to speak her mind ( and pretty much accurately portray the true state of the entire argument concerning whom should take responsibility for what)

Brenda I am sure that the fact that you have been censored here it speaks to the strength or your argument more than anything and volumes about the weakness of the argument against your point of view.Unfortunately of lack of self accountability have become the standard of the society these days , mainly do the the weakness of those that lead us, or more accurately those that people choose to follow.

At any rate the over seer of this page should restore Brenda's comments, they were not in any way outside of reason.

Really? - Viagra helps correct a physical problem,

Some people don't see a "physical problem", but rather, a blessing.

Rich; "So let me get this right". What a lalugh, nothing you said is right. Maybe you should read Ms. Flukes' testimony. She never said she couldn't get contraceptives. She was speaking of one of her friends who couldn't afford it but who needed it for HEALTH reasons. Duh. And by the way, planned parenthood is NOT a state program.

Rick; Mayber YOU should read the article. It doesn't say that Texas pays for those services, it says that Medicaid pays doofus. Medicaid is a Federal program ADMINISTERED by the states. Typical right winger, blows his top without knowing what the hail he is talking about.

If they plan on getting WW3 going in the Middle East they need to start replacing the birth control pills with fertility pills.. Slip them things to unsuspecting women so we can get the birth rate up.. Kids will only need a 6th grade education before they are drafted into the military to fight the Muslims.. Saw an article about birth control pills being recalled because they were not working and a bunch of women were pregnant so I guess they already started doing it..

lonesomegeorge2012 So Brenda, you want every wife to tell their husband "No more sex because I'm done having kids?" I bet your husband will be out of the door in a blink.

Not sure where you got that from what I posted. What I said was women are in control of when they have a baby, not the men. Short of "Rape", the choices are all up to the women. If you can't afford to get birth control on your own, then you probably should not be having sex and creating a new life. I do feel however that in cases of needing birth control for medical reasons should be covered, but not to get free birth control so you can please your husband when he wants it.

I don't have a husband, but if I did, he would have a income enough to afford birth control to prevent a unwanted pregnancy. My choice of not wanting kids is my choice to make. I am the one that has to carry it to birth looking like a beached whale. If I was to marry, he would understand and agree with me about not having kids. Why marry someone that wants kids and then tell him that he can't have them?

Funding Planned parenthood indirectly supports abortions? By this logic - the christian funamentalists in Texas are responsible for Al-Quada. Actually - they are more than indirectly responsible because that moron TX representative lobbied to have the CIA train them in the 1980s.

Maybe a better analogy would be that Texas is responsible for the dumbing down of the USA (Perry, Ron Paul, the average Texan christian, etc). Nope - again this is not indirect (too direct - again).

Again - Texas drills oil, so they (the TX legislators and all the morons in TX) are responsible for the high price of gas now. By their logic - this is truth...

Perry does not want to use state funds for abortion or contraception but is outraged that the Federal government refuses to carry the load.............does that make Perry for or against contraceptives and abortions?

Republicans really need to make up their minds...The Federal Government DID WARN GOVERNOR PERRY....

obviously he does not give credence to what the Federal Government says........why would he deliberately do this......political motivation perhaps?

a quandary.

The federal government is withholding funds for Texas womens' health. Sounds to me like Obama is waging WAR ON WOMEN. Maybe all you hypocrit, liberal feminists should go storm the White House gates and demand he stop taking away your contraceptive funding.

I'm glad so many of you are FOR the Federal Government withholding funds from a state when it doesn't do what the the Feds want. So when Romney becomes president and "withholds" funds from states that have sanctuary cities that allow illegals even against Federal Law, none of you will be opposed. After all if Obama can do it on his issues, a Republican can do it according to his issues.

I thought that Texas was 'for states rights', yet they seem to be complaining that the feds are not giving them money.

Data shows that Texas is the welfare state - we (the rest of the USA) sends TX more money than they pay the feds. Much more (TX is the largest recipient of fed $$)- and they are complaining because they have to start funding their own programs?

Sounds like history repeating itself --- when TX joined the union, we (the rest of the USA) had to pay off the millions of dollars in bad debts that the state of TX had racked up and could not pay. This was one of the agreements when TX 'honored' us by becoming a state. Now - they are whining because they have to pay for their own state responsibilities? And this is the federal government overstepping its bounds? So - this means that TX thinks that it has the 'right' for the rest of us to fund their incompetent government programs?

Sounds like the welfare state (TX) whining again. Maybe we should re-negotiate the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and give TX to Mexico.

It is pretty simple: Texas does not get to decide which medical providers women can use with Federal Tax Dollars. That decision is up to the woman. If Texas is not willing to abide with those guidelines then they do not receive Federal tax dollars for Medical Care at all. Texas, you made your bed now lie in it and stop the whining.

Honestly people, read more than the headline before you start ranting about the Feds. Texas is the one trying to supersede Federal law here, and they're not allowed to do this.

The Texas legislature last year voted to cut off funding for Planned Parenthood because the network of women's health clinics performs abortions. The federal government says that this violates rules of Medicaid, the health program for the poor.

Because Perry is an IDIOT, Obummer has to get in a pissing match? And this is the man the liberals want to be president. Isn't he supposed to be bigger than the issue and have more intelligence?

Obummer becomes more ridiculous and racist every day. The poor of Texas who need these services are Latinos, Blacks and other minorities.

Obummer and Perry can get the gloves on in a ring and duke it out while the money is being used as it is supposed to.

Remember that Obummer called up the LIAR FLUKE about the $3000 a year birth control pills. I called up Planned Parenthood in Washington D.C. which is located 15 minute walk from the law school Fluke attends and the 3 year contraceptive shots cost $8 every three months or $96 dollars for three years.

Now Obummer wants to start another fight in Texas. How about finishing the wall, giving Texas the National guard, boats and helicopters to stop the illegal immigrants so they don't need to go to Planned Parenthood in the first place and dropping anchor babies?

Obummer has been the worst president in the history of the United States, a fake, fraud and a fool.

Why the anger over this? ....Oh, I forgot, Liberals HATE God!!

This is just another time rich men want to tell women their health needs are not as important as men's. Comprehensive health must be available for all women. This is proven when we look at psychology theories. Maslow's for one. If we keep this up we will just push our country back in time to when women were viewed as property. It is time for women to ban together. Health insurance is an expensive I pay out of my salary I should be able to get complete health care the same as my husband, who is on my insurance. Birth control as a part of any social program is nessecary. Without we will see more women who are trying to improve their lives end up living longer term on these programs. Hey we have all, well most of us, have had at least one entercounter that was based on some really bad judgement, the lucky women are the ones who did not end up with a sexually transmitted disease or an unwanted baby. When we as a country realize all US Citizians are important and deserve to be treated like human being we might get back to a country that will pay livable wages to its citizians and only employe legal US citizians. Comprehensive health care for women is imparitive. It allows us to make more choices. Women give birth and raise the children. If we don't have complete health care how long until the health of the country begins to decline. Oh ya around the 70's when more and more women got pregnant and keep the children, but not the loser man that got them pregnant.

cdo8

You are a typical liberal.

As far as the Fluke testimony is concerned even she said her friend's Georgetown insurance paid for birth control medication used to treat disease but her friend was denied. She did not even hint as to why.

Show me where it is against the law and who said that Texas does not contribute. If Obama requires that the State of Texas buys its women's health services from Planned Parenthood then that is unconstitutional

The federal government pays 90 percent of the cost and Texas puts up about $4 million a year.

The Texas legislature last year voted to cut off funding for Planned Parenthood because the network of women's health clinics performs abortions. The federal government says that this violates rules of Medicaid, the health program for the poor.

This is why the whole country believes that Planned Parenthood is responsible for GOVT. FUNDED ABORTIONS. All of your liberal BS crap doesn't change anything. If Planned Parenthood actually separated its services( into two buildings), one for abortions and another for women's issues, I believe we would not have this problem. The govt. purposely groups the two together, probably because they don't want people to think about what they are really supporting.

As far as the Fluke testimony is concerned even she said her friend's Georgetown insurance paid for birth control medication used to treat disease but her friend was denied. She did not even hint as to why.

She was denied because the people who were responsible for approving it didn't want to believe her despite the medical documentation supporting her claims. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you didn't actually read her testimony.

Men need pills to make them less horny. We make way too many decisions with our penises. I feel that my penis is very very bad at making sound decisions.

Texas is making this political, their legislation was violating federal medicare/medicaid laws. In my experience as a nurse, they take that seriously and will withdraw funding based on that.

If the republicans want to violate constitutional rights and step all over federal laws, unfortunately the women in that state are going to pay the price. It has nothing to do with Obama, and everything to do with this is standard operating procedure.

And by the way, these laws have been on the books long before Obama came into office. Stop blaming Obama and start blaming states for deliberately violating federal law.

There must be hundreds of providers in Texas that can provide those services.

Why does the Obama Administration insist that Planned Parenthood be one of them. I suspect that if one of the other providers was excluded by Texas over a policy conflict, the Federal Government would not take a similar action.

IT IS POLITICS BY OBAMA - PURE AND SIMPLE.

Kornfed "Men need pills to make them less horny"

The last time I checked, 'it takes two to Tango', so why blame it on men?

Roy, they all rely on federal money to provide them. Planned parenthood is the one that is donation based that caters to low income people, this isn't politics. Hospitals and clinics have always jumped through hoops to make sure they were up to federal standards to get the funding.

What your saying doesn't even make sense.

"Men need pills to make them less horny"

The last time I checked, 'it takes two to Tango', so why blame it on men?

Why blame it on women?

lol, he is an example of under educated people that are in the republican legislature that are making these laws. They FAIL to consider the the consequences of what they are doing, however Texas was warned that if they chose to go that route it would be in violation and funding would be withdrawn. Texas is at fault and I highly doubt that Obama had anything to do with the decision. If a hospital or clinic is in gross violation of federal rules, they will not get the funding.

For the completely dense extremist republicans out here lets put it simple- IF YOU DON"T FOLLOW FEDERAL RULES, YOU DON'T GET THE MONEY FROM THEM.

Zathrose " The federal government is withholding funds for Texas womens' health. Sounds to me like Obama is waging WAR ON WOMEN. Maybe all you hypocrit, liberal feminists should go storm the White House gates and demand he stop taking away your contraceptive funding."

Good point. I'm sure there are plenty of other providers that don't insist on providing abortions, so why cut ALL of them off - It's just Obama trying to create a diversion from his failures on the economy/jobs.

Obama has been the biggest failure as President in recent history.

Roy you are the biggest moron on the planet. Long before Obama took office, the policy has been that if you want federal funds, you must obey federal rules. They blatantly ignored those rules and now they don't get funding. Geesh, you should be in their legislature, stupid.

Jan-21270 "Roy, they all rely on federal money to provide them....What your saying doesn't even make sense."

So why cut all of them off. I'm sure there are plenty of providers that offer services to the poor, but now Obama has made it impossible for them to get the care they deserve - IT'S PURE POLITICS BY OBAMA.

Roy, any hospital or clinic is going to be cut off if they disobey federal laws and rules. Its not politics, its how its always been.

If Texas knows womens uterus's best and wants to make their own antiquated laws, let them pay for it.

I am fairly certain if the right wing could find a way to blame Adam from taking a bite from the apple they would blame him for that too. They are the biggest idiots on the planet, and they say Obama plays the blame game. Anything that happens no matter how many years ago it was, you blame him. I am tired of your racist tirades that are nothing but stupid hatred.

lolfattynerdswhoknew ""Men need pills to make them less horny" The last time I checked, 'it takes two to Tango', so why blame it on men?...................Why blame it on women?"

So how does saying 'it takes two' mean that I 'blame it on women'? Most people would interpret that to mean they are both responsible. Perhaps simple logic is not one of your 'long suits' - and no, that's not a garment.

Roy simple logic would dictate that if Texas does not like federal law and chooses to make laws that violate federal laws, they wouldn't expect the federal government to continue to pay for their stupidity.

Jan-21270 "I am fairly certain if the right wing could find a way to blame Adam from taking a bite from the apple they would blame him for that too. They are the biggest idiots on the planet, and they say Obama plays the blame game."

Why so bitter against men?

By the way - It was Eve that gave Adam the fruit to eat. lol

Actually I think the bible is fairy tales but since most of you believe in fantasy I used it as an example.

I am not bitter about men. My point is if a state wants to violate federal laws, they should not expect the federal government to continue to pay for the laws that violate theirs. The state should take responsibility to pay for it.

By the way I have no idea how I am having a conversation with a republican about the federal government paying for something that I don't agree with. States are currently violating constitutional rights but that is a different matter than I am sure will eventually be addressed by the supreme court. However states should have some say in many things, but if its in direct violation of federal laws to get money, they should not be asking for money from the federal government. We spent too much money as it is.

Face it, Roy, you've lost this argument against Jan. Trying to blame this on the majority-elected President of the United States is an overreaching, prejudicial judgment on your part, and, you are maliciously missing the point of what Jan is saying.

If it was up to me, I'd give women everything they want. I like women and I think they deserve what they need and want. So cash up and take care of the ladies. I'd hit up the koch, or is that the kock brothers up for a couple of cool billion dollars and then give women want they want. I think thats the right thing to do, after all they became so rich because they robbed women all their lives. So now its their turn to cash up and if they don't like it, I'd take all their money and kick them out of the country. Hmmm thats even a better idea there.

Well the Teapublicans want to party like its 1899. I for the life of me cant see a reason a SANE person would ever vote for these Radical REICH WINGERS. Texas make a STATEMENT and vote out everyone of those GOP clowns from office, also if your male companion doesnt have a glove on then no love, tell him to get a vasectomy

Hi cdo8,

Sorry, but I did read the entire statement offered by Ms. Fluke. She clearly says that BC is expensive, so expensive in fact that these poor students must work all of a summer just to pay for it. But this article that is tied to this thread clearly indicates that the federal gov't, through the Medicaid program but within a program geared towards those women who can't otherwise qualify for Medicaid (and wouldn't it be a big help to us all to understand how this operates) GIVES FREE OF CHARGE birth control to those who want it.

Now, you can argue that Ms. Fluke did or did not mean that BC is expensive, but that was what she said. And you can argue that $3,000 over 3 years is, or is not, an honest cost claim, but what we cannot really dispute unless you want to say the above article which you use to attack conservatives is based on lies, is that the feds fund programs which give away for free the very BC Ms. Fluke says is simply unavailable except at high cost.

My point is somewhat different. I think liberals tend to be ill-informed (as the above two paragraphs illustrate) and that it's a good thing that the Feds are going to withdraw the funds from the program and force Texas to either pay its own way or to end the program entirely. A sub-point was that liberals don't seem to grasp the concept that Obama's decision to harm the health care of women in Texas, while purely political on his part, is actually a decent position to take relative to the constitution.

Rich, states are free to to make whatever antiquated laws they want. Stop asking for federal funds, they are violating federal law.

If you want your freedom as a state, don't ask for handouts.

And I would argue the opposite, republicans tend to be under educated on medicare/medicaid laws. Hey if you don't want their money, fine by me. The state will have to pick up the tab.

My Dad always told me that women have nothing on you but whats between her legs. I always thought that was a little shallow but now I can clearly read from some of these post that they really believe that B.S. News flash prudes! I'ma still get mine! BET!

Hey Joe,

LMAO, really. I mean you go on about how great women are and how you think we should give them all they want and all they need, even going so far as to cajole other men to pony up some money to do all this noblesse oblige. And then you explain how you don't really mean you care enough to pony up the cash, but that we should just take money earned by someone else and give it away as if we've done something grand.

Let me ask you a simple, yet provocative question...Do you really think women want a man, perhaps like you, that is so caring about them, so devoted to them, that the best the little twerp can manage to do for them is to take someone elses money to give away? And if women do want such a man, can you imagine any positive outcome for a society in which men are fake and women like being lied to?

Texas is forever stirring in the national political pot, and nearly always ends up with the stir stick stuck up Its own ass.

Hi Jan,

I agree with you that more states, like at least one, should refuse all federal money and do everything, if anything, in state with state money. But we aren't there just yet. What you don't agree with me on I suspect is that there should be any constraint on federal power, that the feds should really be able to do anything they like so long as you like it. This is a pretty bad way to run a constitutional republic, but, still, I like the idea in this particular case that Mr. Obama is playing politics with women's health, but not for the reasons he is playing. I like it because while he is operating for all the wrong reasons we would still (assuming he continues this policy) have a more republican form of government.

I am not at all convinced that Texas is violating any federal law since I doubt it would be constitutional for the feds to demand of Texas that it allow PP to deliver Medicaid services regardless of otherwise constitutional state laws. But whatever the legal outcome don't you at least find it odd that a liberal president is arguing that states must do business with entities they prefer not to by refusing to allow the state to do business with other entities the feds themselves accept? I mean, if this wasn't political alone, why doesn't Obama simply take Texas to court to demand they allow PP to deliver the very Medicaid services that liberals deny exist in other forums?

rradiko "Face it, Roy, you've lost this argument against Jan."

Why, because you side with her? That's hardly definitive.

The indisputable fact remains that it was Obama's appointee that made the decision to cut funding in Texas - There was no 'law' that required it, since it was a discretionary decision. There are plenty of providers to poor women in Texas that do not also provide abortions, so it was clearly a 'political decision' to try to force Texas to support a single abortion provide (Planned Parenthood), to the detriment of all of the other providers of services to poor women in Texas.

To me, that's POLITICS, pure and simple.

IFYOUARENOTRICHWHYAREYOUAREPUBLICAN?

Interesting 'moniker'. Is that like;

IFYOUARENOTONWELFAREWHYAREYOUADEMOCRAT?

lol

rradiko "Face it, Roy, you've lost this argument against Jan."

Methinks you were unfairly influenced by the eloquence of her argument - to wit; 'Roy you are the biggest moron on the planet.....Geesh, you should be in their legislature, stupid.'

Now I understand why you think she won the argument, but you'll pardon me if I disagree.

lol

As I understand this, Texas is being denied funds pertaining to this because the state is denying women the right to choose to whom they go to for their medical problems and that is against the rules if the state wants the federal government to assist in the payments. All that Texas has to do to receive the funds is to allow the women ,who can't afford to pay for these themselves is to allow them freedom of choice . Another mickey mouse battle from these right wing clowns! If they want the funds, obey the rules like the other states do!

Its simple, medicare and medicaid have laws, they are outside of the constitution that are required to be followed in order to provide funding. Texas was warned that they were in violation of those laws and that the funding would be withdrawn if they continued. They ignored it and continued as they chose. Texas can fund the rules they want, the federal government is not responsible to fund that.

Roy, while that statement was ad hominem and agreed not a good argument. However my point that one must adhere to the laws that are set in order to receive federal funding is no less just. If Texas is going to beg for funding, they should follow the rules.

And all health care providers are under the same rules, no matter what state they are in, in order to receive funding. This isn't some liberal conspiracy, I have been a nurse for 18 years and no matter what the administration was, we jumped through hoops to make sure we were in accordance with those rules.

Roy, Obama is going to win, keep making women mad but don't blame the president because your governor has chosen to flagrantly disobey medicare/medicaid rules for funding.

I see that most of the posters do not understand the problem. They are talking and talking and making up the facts as they go along.

Has any of the Texas critics looked at a map lately ? May be it will dawn on them why Texas has so many poor uninsured. Texas has to absorb all the illegals who come across the Rio Grande because there is no help from the White House. And then,they get blamed for the misery.

To those who advocate a strike by the women : ahem... it has been tried before on the Greek island of Lesbos. The women were tired of their men fighting one war after another and refused to sleep with them until they stopped fighting. And that is where we got the name "Lesbian." haha

Oh, and one more thing : I would think it is discrmination to pay for men's Viagra and not for women's birth control because.... isn't that somehow connected ???

As usual, what this is all about, is a bunch of religious zealots trying to force their religious thinking on the rest of the public. Kinda like Sharia law but even more hypocritical. It is the same bunch that tries to call creationism science. I really, really, really do not like third trimester abortions, but I am not about to tell a woman she can't do it because I don't like it. If you fanatics would spend your money and energy on taking care of the women and their babies, maybe fewer would be aborted. Have you ever seen anyone pleading with women to use birth control during an ANTI-abortion infomercial? No, and you never will. The whole point is to suppress sexuality. These zealots have a perverse view of their own sexuality and are trying to force their guilt onto everybody else. Kinda like the worst homophobes tending to have the greatest latent homosexual tendencies. People get fanatical about things when they are losing their ability to cope with their own crises.

I can solve all of this. If the men will stop telling us what to do with our bodies, we will stop telling you that you can't watch your porn.

Not only was my comment collapsed but it was completely removed and I was one of the first posts.

Why does MSNBC allow people to collapse posts they don't agree with? Why is that option even available? Why not show a count of agree or disagree instead?

Republicans are losing on this issue as with almost every issue out there. What are you going to do this entire next year? Just erase every person in the U. S. who has a grip on the reality of the situations or will you at some point open your eyes and ears finally and see that maybe, just maybe you are WRONG!

Republicans have dug themselves a hole so big they can't even see a way out. Not only is President Obama going to be re - elected, but the House is going to clean house on the republicans. Then things will get back to normal and we can finally pass legislation to help the economy.

LOL.....

I bet Mr. Obama will NOT USE THIS information on his campaign tour to get Women's votes.

All he will do is tout his unconstitutional Mandated Universal Health Care Reform legislation, in addition to talking about how SECURE the borders are. He surely will NOT discuss his FAILED domestic and International agenda. The On-the-Job-Training results must not have kicked in yet, just like his $ 862,000,000,000 No shovel ready jobs failure he laughed at.

LOL.....

Now, now rico-3714896.....I had a comment collapsed and was terminated from Newsvine for a week when I posted LINKS (some from MSNDC) about Mr. Obama's failures and the post was called "SPAMMING". You have to watch WHAT YOU POST against this administration, but in your case, your rhetoric probably went over the top when making comments about the opposition.

...and I've seen many more women devastated by the man who leaves, saying it's her 'problem.' The numbers are irrelevant and anecdotes don't matter. What you are really doing is making the argument for choice. No woman should ever be forced through a pregnancy she does not want and this is not the government's decision to make.

And in cases like that, abortion should always be an option, and a legal one. I was referring to Brenda's basic statement that men have zero rights in abortion decisions. That law should not be changed, and I agree that is is not the government's business. BUT, from a moral standpoint, if there is a father in the picture that wants the child, the mother should respect his feelings enough to at least discuss it with him (unless the relationship is abusive in any way). She can still terminate, even if he disagrees, but have the decency to at least listen to him and take his feelings into consideration.

Brenda1964's comments collapsed by community. Very typical of posters on this site ,the electronic equivocation of a child putting their fingers in their ears and reciting the old standard "nah nah nah nah" when the hear some truth that they would rather not accept.

Not a single thing she said was in any way out of line , she did not insult anyone nor break any rule of this forum except having the nerve to speak her mind ( and pretty much accurately portray the true state of the entire argument concerning whom should take responsibility for what)

They do it because they are not interested in rational discussion and refuse to consider anyone's opinion that they do not agree with.

I disagree with Brenda's view on the father's rights, but I absolutely agree with her opinion on birth control. It really is the woman's responsibility. A woman can say she is on birth control, has an IUD, had her tubes tied... and a man has no way to know if she is being truthful.

When I wrote that all the choices are up to the women, I meant it. However, everyone took me too literal. I was responding to a persons post just before me miner49ner or something like that. I was very blunt, but truthfull in saying that Men really do not have any rights or say in what goes on in my body. That being said, If I was married, I would have discussed everything with my husband before making the final decision. Even after discussing it with him, it is still my body and my decision.

Rene278, I somewhat agree with you. I think it's a shame that men often aren't included in the decision. I also think that just as women need to be careful who they have sex with, men do also. Perhaps they should at least get to know each other well enough to know how they feel about children, abortion, etc before having sex.

That being said, back to topic, Rick Perry is doing his usual, trying to manipulate things to get everything he wants. The Fed said they would cut funding, but he didn't think they would follow through. It's like a child, when you tell him what his consequence is for his bad behavior, does it anyway thinking he won't really be punished and then cries when he is.

If I remember correctly, Perry was the one who wanted to secede from the nation. I guess the Fed is just giving him a taste of what that would really be like. It's time for Perry to stop the childish tantrums and play by the rules. Either you want government help or you don't. It's too bad the women of Texas have to suffer, but the Fed has no choice. They cannot give in to Perry.

I just don't understand this whole government wanting to take away women's reproductive rights thing. Why do old men who don't know me or my situation think they can dictate to me if I can have birth control? I can't afford to have any more kids than the one I have! I don't want to bear child after child until my uterus falls out because I'm not going to stop having sex with my husband. But I guess if one of these politicians who oppose free or low cost birth control gets their way they can just take my place in bed with my husband while I'm ovulating. See how they like getting screwed up the button hole.

InnocentMoon - Why do old men who don't know me or my situation think they can dictate to me if I can have birth control?

They are not dictating that you can or can not have birth control, they are saying they don't want to pay for it for you. If you want birth control, you can go get it anywhere you want, nobody is stopping you.

I can't afford to have any more kids than the one I have! I don't want to bear child after child until my uterus falls out because I'm not going to stop having sex with my husband.

This is exactly what Rush L. was trying to say though I don't agree with his analogy of prostitute, I do see his point of him having to pay for you to have sex. If you want to have sex with your husband, then take responsibility for your actions and get birth control, but why should everyone else have to pay for you to have sex?

But I guess if one of these politicians who oppose free or low cost birth control gets their way they can just take my place in bed with my husband while I'm ovulating. See how they like getting screwed up the button hole.

lol, sounds like you don't like it up the button hole either. I am all for helping pay for someone who needs the birth control for medical reasons, but if you just want cheap birth control so you don't have to take it up the button hole, then you need to get a better job or give up something like soda to pay for it. It's like medical pot, I don't mind paying for someone with cancer to get it for pain, but not just because some cheap lazy person wants to get cheap pot for recreation and have me pay for it.

It's kind of funny that 'state's rights' folks complain about not getting their federal funding for a system that they are trying hard to tear down. 



They are not dictating that you can or can not have birth control, they are saying they don't want to pay for it for you. If you want birth control, you can go get it anywhere you want, nobody is stopping you.

Ah but see, here's the thing. If you were smart, you would want to pay for it. Why? Because in the long run it's cheaper to provide birth control and contraception than it is to pay for their unwanted children and various untreated medical conditions or std's.

You end up paying for it either way unless you suggest leaving poor people untreated, might as well go the cheaper route, right? Wouldn't that be the fiscally conservative thing to do? True fiscal conservatives don't let their strange personal morality against contraception get in the way of a smart investment.

"Abstinence-only" policies have been tried, and in ideal-fantasy-land it would work... but we live in reality, and humans will be humans, and humans have sex.... lots of it.

@Shuklack - I guess you didn't read my post or you would have read that I said for medical reasons to have the insurance companies help pay the costs. I said if it was just for cheap birth control so you can get your jolly's off with a guy, then you pay for it. Abstinence is not a woman's only choice, I for one have power tools that last a hell of a lot longer then a man and I know how to do it better then they do as well. Even so, If you can't afford to pay 20 to 30 for birth control or a pack of condoms, but you can afford soda, candy, cell phones and the like, then give up one of them so you can get the protection. Quit making excuses, you just want someone else to pay for you so you can spend your money elsewhere.

Just more Obama vs America as usual :

Obama Administration blocks Texas voter ID law

"The DOJ has no valid reason for rejecting this important law, which requires nothing more extensive than the type of photo identification necessary to receive a library card or board an airplane," he said.

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott has defended the law, saying it imposes "minor inconveniences on exercising the right to vote."

Voters in the state would be required to present one of seven types of government-issued photo identification, including a driver's license, a passport or a concealed handgun permit. Those lacking the ID would be given a provisional ballot, but the voter would have to present an approved document to the registrar's office within six days after the election.

Those lacking an acceptable identification would be given a free voter identification card."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/12/politics/texas-voter-law/index.html?hpt=hp_bn3

Not only is America for sale, it is being given away to criminals by even worse criminals, Democrats.

we should as a country cut our loses and cut them loose...see how they like paying for their own natural disasters..................

MinerFortyNiner, you can't be that dense. Janet was talking about people who should have baby's doing so just because they can or because it gives them benefits. Not a tsunami or hurricane.

All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.

Thomas Jefferson

I'm with Janet!

Gov Perry was all bravado, talking about succeeding from the Union....but was quick to ask for Federal funds when the wildfires whipped through his state! Same goes when a hurricane hits Texas!

Nice stereotype tedcrawford. Paint all progressives as irresponsible.

I could start quoting T. Jefferson myself but I'm sure you would not agree with 90% of it.

Wait, so the Administration is against making sure poor women have access to healthcare? Talk about War on Women. The Administration is willing to not fund healthcare for women because of cutting out Planned Parenthood? Does this not strike anyone as putting politics over principle? Hard to argue that they care about Women's health after reading this article.

No, the adminstration is telling Texas it can't pick and choose what healthcare providers it will give federal money to. Knowing Texas, they'll just give the money to some rich doctors who couldn't care less about poor women and their health needs, as long as they get their money.

rick perry crying for federal funds again. this is the same guy who cut his forest fire snd fire department budgets by 75% during the worst drought and fire season and than cried that the federal government wasn't giving texas the tax payers money from the other 49 states.

rick perry has applied for more fema aid (federal dollars) than any governor in history. rick perry received more federal emergency dollars than any other governor. rick perry has received more (fema) federal emergency tax dollars than any governor in history.

Here’s a look at how Texas compares to other states:

At the bottom:

— Tax expenditures per capita (47th)

— Percent of population 25 and older with a high school diploma (50th)

— Percent of poor people covered by Medicaid (49th)

— Percent of population with employer-based health insurance (48th)

— Per capita spending on mental health (50th)

— Per capita spending on Medicaid (49th)

— Percent of non-elderly women with health insurance (50th)

— Percent of women receiving prenatal care in first trimester (50th)

— Average credit score (49th)

— Workers’ compensation coverage (50th)

Near the top:

— Number of executions (1st)

— Public school enrollment (2nd)

— Percent of uninsured children (1st)

— Percent of children living in poverty (4th)

— Percent of population uninsured (1st)

— Percent of population living below poverty (4th)

— Percent of population with food insecurity (2nd)

— Overall birth rate (2nd)

— Amount of carbon dioxide emissions (1st)

— Amount of toxic chemicals released into water (1st)

— Amount of hazardous waste generated (1st)

This article originally appeared in The Texas Tribune at http://trib.it/gWQXQz.

Percent of women receiving prenatal care in first trimester (50th) texas is dead last in pregnant women getting health care. they want to do away with planned parent hood, which is probably the first place a poor woman would go.

Rick Perry is always complaining about too much federal spending until the feds cut spending in Texas.

Two wrongs do not make a right. However with that said did you ever stopped to think that the reason Texas ranks so low in so many categories is because of the overwhelming number of Illegal aliens and first generation immigrants that are in Texas trying to start a new life.

I believe as of last spring these were the numbers. 54 percent of legal immigrants and 70 percent of illegal immigrants receive welfare assistance, with illegal immigrants generally receiving benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children.

This is not me taking a stance on illegal immigration but rather if we want to look at this we should have all information.

Juniperberry - Stop making sense.

Texas sends the 2nd most money to Washington. And they get back around 90 cents on the dollar.

The truth is out.

The Democrat/Liberal/Progressive/Socialists

VALUE ABORTION OVER WOMEN'S HEALTH!

They say: "NO abortions - NO women's healthcare funding".

Texas still wants to fund women's health, including birth control - but Washington is stopping funding for those things here.

Very interesting. That puts quite the spin on this issue, Todd. What a hypocrite.

So called "fiscal conservatives" and those that want gubmint out of healthcare, should be creaming all over themselves at this news.

Brenda:

Thanks for the breath of fresh air, people are always crying for the government to control everything---birth, guns, spending, speed limits, etc......and then complaining when the hammer comes down and they've lost all their rights.

We don't need more laws, we do need more personal responsibility.

Its like overeating, making a pig of yourself, and then expecting someone else to put on a few pounds of extra weight because of your lack of self control.

Our culture is overburdened with the likes of these self-serving pigs who want sex, and food, and cars, and gas, and phones, and booze, and drugs, and cigarettes, and TVs, and homes, and health care, and clothes (do you see a pattern here) on a silver platter at someone else's expense. Sadly we live in a time where irresponsibility is not only condoned but rewarded. It's a matter of supply and "demand" and the demand is now bigger than the supply........now what?

While you are the exception to the rule I appreciate your common sense approach to being in charge of your own body............novel concept!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ryan - please stop spreading false information. The state of TX gets almost $9 of federal $$ for every dollar of federal tax paid by the state. TX is the largest welfare state in the union.

This state joined the union with an inability to cover its bills, and it is still this way. Without the state being on the federal dole, it would become a 3rd world country.

Perhaps we should give it back to Mexico - and then Mexico can deal with the whining.

Here’s a look at how Texas compares to other states:

At the bottom:

— Tax expenditures per capita (47th)

— Percent of population 25 and older with a high school diploma (50th)

— Percent of poor people covered by Medicaid (49th)

— Percent of population with employer-based health insurance (48th)

— Per capita spending on mental health (50th)

— Per capita spending on Medicaid (49th)

— Percent of non-elderly women with health insurance (50th)

— Percent of women receiving prenatal care in first trimester (50th)

— Average credit score (49th)

— Workers’ compensation coverage (50th)

Dzaffina: You do realize these numbers are skewed because of Texas' illegal immigration problem. It's not like any liberal would purposely skew the results, now would they? Next time, you pick numbers for Texas, make sure it represents Americans. I can't believe so many stupid people believed you. Get rid of the illegal immigrants and you will see these numbers jump up. Afterall, these numbers are so low because President Obama is in office and refuses to do nothing.

Man, someone always beats me too it. Texas want's out of the Union, I say, put guards around the boarder and tariffs on imports/exports, and let them be, "a whole other country."

I just have one thing to say.You meen that Texas didn't have a problem with illegals before Obama became President?

Afterall, these numbers are so low because President Obama is in office and refuses to do nothing.

You said that right, he refuses to do nothing. He is continually fighting for the rights of all of us, not just the few who can afford to buy those rights.

fact. I know of 3 abortions, one was the daughter of a Catholic Church officer/elder. One was young woman who got serious reaction to birth control(pill)while doing 6 yrs in college. One to younger niece who had endometriosis bad and partially naturally aborted and needed a D&C to scrape out the rest of embryo. Niece now has 5 children and the state pays for them, 3 are severely mentally challenged and 1 has a rare blood disease that costs over 100,000. a year to keep him going and last one's condition is still being evaluated. Their mom can't stand taking care of them so the state does that too. She has no job and doesn't intend to get one either. She is a God fearing Christian with no husband. Of the 2 above women who had abortions they and their family can afford another abortion, if need be, without any state or fed help. So the issue is not only what choice these women had but now who can afford it. All about finetuning a class system.

yes it is a war on women, so women, please use your right to vote, protect that right, don't allow the likes of Santorum set us back to the 1920's. Religion has it's place, in our homes, not in our government. Vote him out and all like him.... VOTE

Folks I live in Texas, the Taliban aint got nothing on these idiots down here....Planned parenthood is viewed like the way the Talibans view Americans.....

Texas Laws are soooo anti women, anti minority, just anti anything that aint white...and that my friends; is the f*cking bottom line.....

Arguing with these folks, you have better luck arguing with a friggin rock....pathetic!

...and yet the women here , the poor etc; still keep voting for these scumbags....it's disturbing to say the least....

Folks if you didnt believe what I just said, look no further; just look above this post ^^^ and see what type of people we are dealing with here in Texas.

Ya cant argue with them, they seem to be in their own little retarded world, one in which all arguments are centered towards Obama's birth certificate and school grades!

How can argue with that? Ya cant. You have better luck arguing with a gorrilla....at least a banana will do the trick....here they will eat the banana, and then continue thumpin their chests thanks to Rush Limbaugh....They eat, sleep @!$%# Rush Limbaugh...Rush's B*llsh*t is Law down here.

Cant fix or argue with stupid, you just let them win and move on....Planned parenthood is not gonna win here....even incest will not change their dimwit minds...

FOLLISHNESS...wow your name is sooospot on :) Do you understand the word "UNITED States?" The law of the land means all states. MY money is involved. I didn't get to stop "Bush's Wars....and YOU can not stop fairness in health care $ to states. BTW Why don't You release YOUR school records? I know its hard to get transcripts from home schooling, or maybe just Secondary schools...but hey. You need to put down the "TEA", turn off Fox, Tune out Rush and GO back to school...get out of you box more.

Foolishness: your moniker says it all. WOMEN already pay for their insurance and their birth control..not taxpayers. Ask someone how insurance works and come back when you understand it is not "free"...charging women AGAIN for their birth control by mandating its NOT covered would be paying twice. Let's all have a look at your medicine cabinet and vote on what we would like YOUR insurance to cover, or not. Get it now?

It is a lie that the "poor" have no choice.

It is a LIE that your needs being met by the STATE is a Constitutional RIGHT.

The proposal in Texas is to attack abortion on demand, not attack women with health issues and who need care; or their children. Clinics in Texas will be funded; in state.

The bigger issue here is that America has a moral problem, and any effort to describe it or discuss it is met with fierce hatred for anything that smacks of righteousness.

I live in Tarrant County, Tx. If any one needs health care, go to JPS County hospital and they will care for you, and in good fashion......for free. Me and all the other tax payers will be glad to pay your way until you get on your feet.

Say, Doc Holliday, we admonished Rush Limbaugh for his ad hominem attack on Miss Fluke. Get yourself a big helping of the same and construct a rational argument.

Thank you Herald9!

I too reside in Texas, and have never heard Mr Limbaugh speak. Do not care to, same goes for anyone else who is far right or left. I like so many other American's just want the unbiased facts, I can make up my own mind thank you.

Doc, if Texas does not suit your ideology do yourself a favor and move so you can be happy. Life it too short.

Did any of you bother to read the article?

AUSTIN, Texas -- The federal government will withdraw funding for a Texas program providing more than 100,000 poor women with birth control and other health services because Planned Parenthood clinics are not allowed to participate, a U.S. Health and Human Services spokeswoman said on Friday.

Who is declaring war on women's health. Going from 100,000 to 0 because the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT will be eliminating funding.

Hey Rick, did YOU bother to read the article? The government will withdraw fuinding because what Texas did is against the LAW. Typical right winger, accuses other of what they do themselves.

cd08

No laws broken and you need to quote Sandra Fluke verbatim or you come off as a liar.

Folks I live in Texas, the Taliban aint got nothing on these idiots down here....Planned parenthood is viewed like the way the Talibans view Americans.....

Texas Laws are soooo anti women, anti minority, just anti anything that aint white...and that my friends; is the f*cking bottom line.....

DocHoliday: I heard that Texas has a really big immigration problem. Is that true? Perhaps the lack of funding for immigrants is what is causing the rift between the white folks and the minorities. Too much funding for immigrants, not enough funding for anything else. I don't believe you are telling the WHOLE truth. And no, I'm not white.

Women out number men in this world, not just this country, we need to get out in huge numbers to vote for candidates that supports women in making their own health care decisions without interference from any group in this society. If you are a woman and want control of your health care decisions, do not seek your health care from any organization or institution that is religiously affiliated and make your vote count in 2012!!

There ARE many women going along with this BS Carlita. It's really not so much men doing this as militant christians, [men and women] with the republican party reluctantly going along with it so as not to lose votes. There will always be this fringe element who are against abortions and even birth control; the problem is that these idiotic measures are actually put into law by the gutless republican party who will not stand up to the radical elements who control them. Everyone pushes these spineless bastards around; Wall street, oil companies, Grover Norquist, Fox, evangelicals, even moronic nobodies like Sarah Palin have the republicans quaking in their boots. We can pretty much make "republican" a new word synonymous with the word "coward."

Well old Rick Santorum is against contraception, abortion even for the health of the mother, and even in cases of rape and incest. Wouldn't he make a great president? There are also many young women who have to take birth control for medical reasons, like regulating their menstrual cycles.

if low-income women don't have access to birth control, the birth rate would rise and cost the state another $57 million in maternity bills.

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This is the party of fiscal responsiibility who are blaming President Obama for the Reagan-Bush-Bush deficit.

And Sara: your comments about men, if said by men about women, would be termed "sexist". How about policing yourself instead of endeavoring to shift your responsibilites onto others -- in this instance men. If you want control over your own sexuality, then stop demanding that men control theirs' so you needn't control yours.

Very well said Carlita!

Pulmonary embolisms and miscarriage is different that abortions of convenience. I am all for women's health, but against the disrespect for human life.

JS, How can you be so cruel? Perhaps Carlita wishes to have a family! She is OBVIOUSLY NOT CHOOSING ABORTION as a form of birth control! YOU are IGNORANT! My Aunt (a GOOD Catholic) LOST her first 3 babies, the next 2 were born prematurely, and the next 4 were born at term. She also adopted one more.

Abortions are performed AFTER a miscarriage, so remove the fetus....

I'd LIKE to say MORE, but I don't want a "time out"....

PEACE

OMG JS, are you for real? Now you want to tell a woman that probably wants a child that she's an idiot for wanting to not give up the hope of having a child?

history teacher, are you freaking kidding?? When a fetus dies, the doctor performs a D & C (abortion) on the mother to remove the dead fetus!

Of course Sanatarium should take the body home to take a nap, but most people wouldn't!

History Teacher, the conservatives are the ones trying to create laws to impose beliefs. Do you not get that? Religious Conservatives can chose not to have abortions, but instead want to create laws to prevent other people from having a choice. Conservatives could choose not to be married if they are gay, but instead create laws to prevent other people from having a choice. Religious conservatives could choose not to drink alcohol on Sunday but instead created laws to ban the sale of liquor on Sundays in many places.

Think again who is imposing their beliefs.

CarlitaV

From what you describe you should seriously consider sterilization. Most insurances and health clinics cover abortions when the mother's health is at stake. Some of us are tired of liberals that are spinning this otherwise.

You Christians scare the crap out of me.

My Christ, the son of God commands

1. you believe on his name and that he is the son of God

2. Love one another (yes, you fake church pew warmer) this means Muslims, Mormons, Buddhist, etc.

These two commandments in the new testament overrode the old law of the old testament PERIOD.

This also hold true for Gays, Blacks, Mexicans, Asians also murderers, rapist, pedophiles, etc.

Christ, the son of God I love - it's Christians that put fear in my heart.

You have murdered more people in the name of Christianity through War after war after war, death laws and your stupid love for a bastard until it exits the womb. Then your hate for the poor uneducated seeking any help up is suddenly some political issue so starving and dying of poverty is what they get.

God have mercy on your souls and give most of you a helping hand when you stand before JUDGEMENT.

@rick,

What a freaking ignorant comment to make...Who are YOU to judge ANYONE??? This is the problem with rwnj's, always getting up in someone else's business!

Agreed. Here's hoping Carlita is successful with a future pregnancy.

Trolls, what women go through in pregnancy is none of your business. It's our body and our privacy, period. Get a hobby.

The Fed, Obama and PP are forcing WHAT beliefs exactly ? It's the religious nutbags who are forcing their "beliefs" on everyone else by trying to mandate laws according to their fairytales/dogma into our gov't. Hate to burst your bubble but our founding fathers SPECIFICALLY set this country up to be SECULAR in its gov't and laws. SECULARISM benefits EVERYONE b.ecause it give EVERY individual a choice based on their own beliefs or non-beliefs. You don't like something... don't do it, watch it, eat it, participate in it ,etc. It's that simple. QUIT TRYING TO TELL EVERYONE ELSE what to do, how to live, think, act, etc. NO religion's idea of "morals, values, dogma, etc etc has ANY place in our gov't. because we do NOT all have the same beliefs, ideals, etc. YOUR definition of "morals and values" is not the same as that of others, nor should it be and NO ONE is obligated to accept them or follow them.

Jo-An-4354969

So you are saying "Just give me your money, don't even suppose to tell me how to spend it," It is apparent that you are so clueless that it never even occurred to you that if you don't want us in your business then don't ask us for money.

And if CarlitaV is unable to carry a pregnancy to term then why should she not consider a tubal ligation? You liberals don't seem to have too much of a handle on deductive reasoning.

Rev J Wright

God says we have to love one another. He Doesn't say I have to love what you do.

You Christians scare the crap out of me.You have murdered more people in the name of Christianity through War after war after war, death laws and your stupid love for a bastard until it exits the womb. Then your hate for the poor uneducated seeking any help up is suddenly some political issue so starving and dying of poverty is what they get.

The bible states:

⁴ The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. (2 Corinthians 4:4)

RevJWright: I think you fit the above bible verse exactly. Now you are condemning christians for trying to save the lives of children? If you intend to use the bible to justify your actions, then at least have the sense to use the right verse. Here's one:

"'Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molech( aka Planned Parenthood), for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the LORD. (Leviticus 18:21)

Hey UNhappy,

more or less your name sums you up - now look in the mirror and repeat yourself.

His.Teach/ This planet is over populated and needs to start to think seriously about controls. It would make more sense to allow any-one who wants to have a family to do so and encourage those who do not to also do as they wish. Religions have always encouraged their followers to have a greater number of offspring to expand their numbers,which was acceptable in ancient times, but we now have the opposite problem. Religions continue to tout their beliefs without considering the effect on every-one.This country at it's inception,realised that things change ,and that is why they added amendments. Should not religions too?

Sorry for your losses, but I must say that I would make more sense not to continue to get pregnant if the outcome is going to be the same. May try adopting because those abortions will take a toll on your body and you'll NEVER be able to carry a baby. I'm surprised a doctor didn't tell you this.

Better get your sleep now Cletus; your 17 kids will need your energy tomorrow.

Clebro2Do we get to say the government is jeopardizing the health of poor women like the left-wing nuts say everyone else does to them?

Only if the dimwit GOP in Texas agrees to STFU and leave all of a patients health care decisions to one's licensed doctor(s) and themselves.

The GOP leadership and sheep farm need to stick to what they do right; polishing their pistoles, watching reruns of 'Dallas', trying to spell Abilean, reading the good book, and scraping the bull@!$%# off their cowboy boots.

Women have the right to choose where they seek their health care, it should not be dictated by the state, men or religious groups. If you do not believe in abortion don't have one. I would say those that bombed clinics and murdered doctors that are apart of the religious fanatics in this country would be considered terrorists. We do not live in a theocracy, and no religious group should determine a woman's health care decisions.

I agree that women have a right to chose thier health care but I have the right on not being made to pay for it!!

Yeah but I don't like WAR either, or no-bid defense contracts among cronies -- but I'm forced to pay even when wars aren't declared. How hypocritical of you...

The Hearts of Men have truly grown cold in the end days as the Bible predicts.

An abortion proponant quoting the Bible Nikki? How rich!! I'm a Diest, but having read the book several times even I know better than that!

bb ------- There have been something like 50,000,000 abortions in our country since Roe vs. Wade. There has been something like SIX attacks on abortionists. Of those who killed abortionists, ALL (who were discovered) were dealt with harshly or are still awaiting trial, with not much hope they will walk. Incidently, condemnation of these men by prolife organizations are virtually universal.

Being pro-choice does not equal being pro-abortion(or an abortion proponant)

Of course not ALL Texans are stupid Yoyomi. They aren't all fat either, but this IS Texas we're talking about!

You tell him Cletus, gotta get rid of Yoyomi and keep Texas pure!

Whenwas Rick Perry AG of Texas?? NEVER!

I totally agree, and obviously we here in Texas have a great sense of humor because we keep re-electing him. Heck, we even tried to share him with the rest of the nation!

Bob & Ted, clearly YOU aren't "getting any", wonder why?

I, too, am a Texan who is ashamed to say I live here! Rick Perry embarrassed Texas with his ignorance and erratic behavior in the Presidential campaign. As a governor, he has done much to harm the well-being of Texans. Texas ranks among the worst of the states in so many areas--education and health funding, low-paying jobs, etc. And now, Texas is turning down millions of dollars in federal funding for women's health care because a bunch of white men in the legislature don't like Planned Parenthood. I'm opposed to abortion in most cases, but this is cutting off your nose to spite your face!

I wonder if Texas would turn down funding for Viagra, Cialis... I like the bill introduced by a legislator in Ohio that would require men who want one of these drugs to get a second physician's opinion, to have to listen to all the possible side effects of the drugs, and to wait a specified period of time to "think it over."

When is the government going to get out of our lives and stop making decisions for us. Thank god for Planned Parenthood.

Considering Planned parenthood is partially funded by taxpayer dollars(the government) Your statement is a bit confusing, You can either have the government get out of your lives and that means that they do not fund businesses like planned parenthood or you can have them in your lives and they do fund them. You can not have it both ways.

VOTE, stop voteing these idiots into office. Women, I beg you, vote these nuts away. A vote for Santorum is saying here, take my body and my mind and do what you want with it. Vote Perry out of office ASAP. Vote congress out ASAP. VOTE

LostInthePinesBarrens, your logic is flawed. The government funding planned parenthood is not interfering in anyone's lives, it is offering choice. If you choose not to go, it doesn't affect you at all. Texas, however, is seeking to reduce choice based upon their personal, and religious beliefs. Texas is interfering in peoples lives. The government funds public parks as well, is that controlling your life?

Texas has a long history of rule by the few!!! Every 10 years there is a battle over redistricting when the census comes out! New I.D. laws in place this year to squelch voting! The state house has allowed unlimited pay to play for business. The only way we (Texan's) have is a full full federal take over or we will forever be the 3rd world state of the UN-united States!!!!! We had demonstrations at the state house that got no local or national attention. We have the Vaginal Probe mandate Virginia wanted but came short of doing.

Lost in the Pines: you are indeed lost. Planned Parenthood, like any other entity receiving federal dollars, is prohibited from using those dollars for any abortion services. The only reason to defund planned parenthood at all is for spite...and THAT'S where the war on women comes in. This is a move by those extremists who can't find a way, even with the most conservative Supreme Court in decades, to get women removed from the Constitution's right of privacy and make abortion illegal. So what do they do? They use every means necessary to make it unavailable. there's no confusion here. This is a personal right. If you are confused, imagine if men's contraceptives were by prescription only and subject to government regulation. You'd probably lead the pack of outrage about govvernment interference in people's private lives..not to mention your likely reaction if someone suggested you simply stop having sex.

To LostInthePinesBarrens,

The Government funds a lot of the Highway Systems in the country too.I guess you can stop diving on them if you don't like the Government funding.

Rick Perry was a State Representative (as a democrat at first) and the Lt Governor. He was never the Attorney General. Most Texans don't want him the Governor (at least here in Austin). The main problem that we have here is the same as the rest of the country --- Voter Apathy. Hardly anyone votes anymore and that results in having a Dictocrat like Rick Perry. I'm a proud Texan who believes individual rights over governmental bureaucracy. That said, Rick Perry is a fool.

By that reasoning the ones that would suffer would be the children, forcing children on someone who doesn't want them will not benefit them at all. They'd grow up miserable and being looked at as a burden by those forced to "adopt" them....no one would want that.

And this in some way means what ... That is exactly the point ... they don't want them but want to dictate to other what can and cant be done so make them totally responsible for them.

Wilbur...I think you have a great idea. Then we'd see how long before people start to change their minds about Planned Parenthood and abortion. Forcing children onto people who don't want them is exactly what they are doing by not allowing women the right to abortion if they so desire. The children grow up unwanted an unloved so everyone is miserable. Same difference.

.... then they would brainwash the children and there would be more of "them."

history addict, abortion is not allowed after the first trimester, unless there is a medical necessity. Until then, you can't tell that ball of cells from a frog, a pig, a monkey or a fish. It isn't a child, it's a ball of cells. like a tumor or a wart. The Aztecs sacrificed living children, already born. Not balls of cells. There is a difference. Since you don't want abortion, tell me how many unwanted children have you adopted? Probably none, since you want to talk the talk, but not walk the walk. Ask those "unwanted" children, living in foster homes or abusive families if it would have been better not to be born and let me know what you find out.

I have a simple solution, too. Use birth control - it's free. It's effective.

Oh yeah, and it has the desirable side-effect of not motivating the users to kill their unborn children.

Ted, go back and READ the article...they are NOT wanting to FUND Planned Parenthood, BECAUSE they perform abortions! Even though NO Federal funds are used for abortion!

Wilbur, I realize it was said tongue in cheek, but you are right! I remember driving through downtown Ft Meyers, about 20 yrs ago, seeing a group of bible thumping old people having an anti abortion rally, I rolled my window down and yelled out "Who's going to take care of ALL the children?" My husband was mortified, LOL, but I was disgusted! Here's a group of judgmental holy rollers, trying to take away a women's right to choose, and they have no idea of any one persons circumstance!

Sadly, THOSE PEOPLE would NOT make good parents, so in reality, not such good idea! LOL

free? think not.

cullerco, what your saying is... every man should under go a vasectomy until they are ready and able to take care of the child they helped make? As a man, I think men get off the hook of far to easy when it comes to birth control issues, after all it takes two to make a baby. If men would step up to the plate when it come to birth control, use condoms and have a simple vasectomy done, I bet 85% of this problem would go away.

Sure Jo-An, and "the check is in the mail" and "I didn't have sex with that woman" and " I'm not a crook" and the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, and Santa Clause are all real! You've got to be kidding here!

@tedcrawford

"and the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, and Santa Clause are all real! You've got to be kidding here"

All of that from a self admitted, deist hypocrite.

Why do you still post here idiot ?

That's it in a nut-shell, Roger (no pun intended). If the males had vasectomies, say at age 14, compulsory, which is an out-patient procedure that is easily reversed in another out -patient procedure, a lot of these issues would go away.

A tubal ligation, on the other hand, is major sugery, including time in the hospital, and difficult to reverse.

It is not women who run around starting in early teen years, trying to get laid by anybody who will relieve the itch in their drawers! We're not the ones who would rather screw anybody just to relieve the pressure, and to hell with the results, as in "I didn't want the kid, I just wanted the sex". But we are the ones who must bear the burden of raising the child, after ruining our bodies with the pegnancy--and I'm not referring to our figures here. Bearing children takes a toll on a woman's body, not the least of which is calcium depletion.

I agree with an earlier poster. Until you males get off your a$$es and realize that half the responsibility of creating that life is yours, we women should put a national hiatus on sex until you males realize that half the burden is yours, and we're not going to handle the whole issue any more. We females are born with a finite number of eggs, and the laws of nature demand that we choose the best male to fertilize them i.e. the one who is going to make the smartest, strongest, and who will be there throughout the time it takes to raise the offspring to adulthood. Males, on the other hand, are programmed to "mate" let us say, with as many females as possible to assure them that somewhere their genetic line will continue on.

So when you guys are sporting wood, don't come to us for relief. And please remember, we have half the money, half the vote, and all the pu**y. What do you think your chances would really be?

Elizabeth-2017812

Whomever is at fault or whatever the reason, there are a great many of us that want these people to take responsibility for their actions. It really sounds like liberals are saying that their followers are incapable of taking responsibility and need us conservatives and government to take care of them. But while they want our cash they don't want our inpum. They just want us to fork over the money with no questions asked.

BTW Elizabeth, I agree someone should be responsible before the pregnancy occurs and I don't care if it is the male or the female or how it is accomplished,

@Elizabeth - Vasectomies are not always reversible. The body responds to the trapped sperm cells by producing antibodies which results in sterility.

Ah, I see the gender war is heating up on these boards. This move by the federal government is what would happen if any state made a law that conflicted with federal law. If a state where to make a law saying that people could drive 130 MPH on an interstate, and the federal laws state that no one can drive over 66 MPH, then that state would be liable for losing federal transportation money.

It works for anything that states get federal money for. States laws MUST comply with federal law or that state will lose federal money.

Texas created the situation by making a state law that was offensive to the federal government, and now the state will pay.

As for woman and "We have all the control". I tend to agree. Woman have a huge amount of control over not only their bodies but also over the resulting children. With all of that control, you might think that woman would never think of blaming all men for chasing them around and getting them pregnant.

After all, you do have all this control do you not?

I see a lot of gender hatred here, and I can tell you all right now. When the gender war is done, none of us will be better off for it. Not man, or woman.

I think men get off the hook of far to easy when it comes to birth control

QFT

@Rick ..... you really believe that all women who have abortions or use birth control are liberals? (liberals and "their followers"). Or that only conservatives are religious or patriotic? You need to get out of your information bubble, buddy! LOL

These men don't know jack @!$%# about women and their healthcare needs. Go ask the men in your lives if they know abut this issue and you'll see they really don't have a clue. All women should be able to get insurance with FULL comprehensive preventative care, and that most certainly includes reproductive care. I think all women need to educate the men in their lives (and on the vine) on women's health issues because I'm getting tired of the bull@!$%#.

Rick/ I do not follow your statement that we liberals want to have our government to pay for anything that we desire.What we do ask of it is that they spend less of our taxes on the welfare of the super rich and more on our citizens who need help.As far as our followers . I don't think that most liberals are asking for followers.They are hoping that they can influence more citizens to think of the wisdom,or lack of it, in their votes.The other part of your comments implied that liberals want hand outs.almost all of the liberals,past and present, that I know of have had a reasonably good education, therefore have been fortunate enough to have had a reasonably decent income,therefore have neither needed nor qualified for government financial aid.

The bottom line is it isn't up to the state to try to control the people that reside in it The Federal government is supplying the money (our money) to provide poor people with necessary health services. Therefore, the Fed can put terms and conditions on the use of that money. If the state wants to dictate where people can and can't go for those services, they need to provide the funding themselves.

It would be no different if your particular state gave municipalities money for schools, and those municipalities decided they don't want to teach science anymore. The state would have every right to say they either provide the instruction or they will cut funding.

Also, let's keep in mind here that Perry doesn't want any kind of federal involvement. Let him deal with the consequences.

No Popery here! Never!

I think we should stop funding the catholic church. Tax free church no more.

The only people that are doing the forcing is the democrats.

The misogynists on the right are trying to force their dogma on women, compromising their healthcare.