"It’s important not to confuse certification with employment," said Miami-Dade Public Schools spokesman John Schuster.

Translation: It'll be a cold day in Miami before you ever get a teaching job, Mr. Gay Porn.

P.S. Ten bucks says he's a Drama teacher ;)

If he does not have a criminal conviction, it is not clear why he was fired. How did they find out about his past? If he was discussing this with students, this may have provided cause.

Probably the school was conducting a background check. But you're right, it doesn't say why he was fired. But again this is like any other job. They can fire you for anything nowadays. And there are tons of people to replace you.

PDK You lose. He was a substitute teacher. Did you read the article?

Ex-porn actor fired from school allowed to seek teaching certificate

Why not?, he saw things from all different angles.

My guess is some kid's (closeted) Dad recognized him...."Hmm, he sure looks familiar from behind."

Why should he not be allowed? My Sophmore HS teacher was a Bubble Dancer in the 20's.

I can think of a whole bunch of real criminals who shouldn't be teaching. I have no problems with what this guy did, it was adult porn, not child porn. What about all the women who strip and make money to go to college. Should they not be in the workplace because they stripped once upon a time. I am happy for him. He did not break the law so what is the problem?

'PDK' wrote:

"P.S. Ten bucks says he's a Drama teacher"

REPLY: Nope, you lose. The article said he was a substitute teacher.

But ten bucks says you're an intolerant, homophobic bigot :) I won!!!

The district found out about his porn career because some one in his district saw him in one of the movies they were watching....and then told on him.

SO whoever turned him in was getting off on his movie, and apparently liked him enough to wanna watch him sexually, but not enough to let him get on with his life in an honest means that doesn't degrade him. If this was a woman trying to leave her past behind, I'm sure the nation would support her as "honorable, honest, and trying to make a decent living away from her wild past".

I have a gut feeling this is happening because he's 1) a male with a penis in a society where that alone can be considered dangerous ....and 2) because he's gay and a good bulk of the nation seems to have an issue with gay teachers to begin with "they'll brainwash our kids", and other nonsense.

And like he said: Pornography isn't illegal.

"Having a teaching certificate does not guarantee employment or reemployment. And school districts are under no obligation to provide employment to any individual just because he or she has a teaching certificate."

the guy can just sue for wrongful termination to get his sub job back

More of the religinsane in America .

REPLY: Nope, you lose. The article said he was a substitute teacher.

But ten bucks says you're an intolerant, homophobic bigot :) I won!!!

Hahaha! Y'all do realize that a "substitute teacher" typically teaches a variety of subjects, right? So, that wager has yet to be settled conclusively.

As for me being an intolerant, homophobic bigot - I'm afraid you owe me ten bucks, Bobby. Yes, it was a silly joke playing on a stereotype. In poor taste? Perhaps. Intolerant, homophobic and bigoted? Sorry, you lose. Peace.

Wow. So what if he was a gay porn actor? If Jenna Jameson wanted to become a preschool teacher, more power to her. Your comment reflects a serious lack of understanding and is far more disgusting than the fact that this guy used to make gay porn. On what basis should he not be hired?!

Porn isn't the equivalent of child molestation. He was probably fired because his employer saw him in the gay porn and felt uncomfortable hiding his homosexual tendancies around him. Stranger things have happened and people have been fired for weirder reasons.

Da Troof - He was having sex with consenting adults before he became a teacher. Why should you assume that this would automatically make him a pedophile or unfit to teach?

You must live a sheltered life if you think teachers were saints in the past and never did anything that you might "morally" object to, I know of some teachers who smoke pot and are swingers, but their private life has nothing to do with their teaching ability.

Sean-336944 and Hot in Miami - The guy may have cleaned up his life, in which case he could become a teacher. Keep in mind that States have strict behavioral, character and integrity standards for those who desire a teaching career - after all, their lives are "role model" examples for students, to promote upright citizenship. Read your local school's revised codes pertaining to teachers. Teacher's private lives "DO" determine their teaching ability, just as a law enforcement officer's private life determines his ability to uphold the law - you lose on this one. What a man thinks, so is he! Just because a person has teaching credentials does not make that individual an automatic teacher, or a good teacher - as in the case of the engineer you mention. Teaching is a high calling and requires people that have a passion to instill truth, that care for students, and who desire to cause an individual to think.

Jermo-10936335, how was his previous legal occupation relevant? It didn't have anything to do with his teaching ability. Teacher's private lives only determine anything if its relevant to their ability to teach or deal with kids, simiarly cops private lives only determine anything if its relevant to their ability to do their jobs. looks like your wrong on this one. I don't suppose you've ever done anything in the past you'd disapprove of now?

Teaching is a high calling and requires people that have a passion to instill truth, that care for students, and who desire to cause an individual to think.

Then pay them with the same respect accordingly. But you won't, so forget your pedestal fantasy and realize that everyone is multi-dimensional and deserves a private life away from their work.

As culheath said, if you want to hold teachers up to your extreme standard, hold all teachers to your standard. Most teachers teach because its a job. Few teachers are the super-moral upstanding citizens you want them to be in their private lives. But that's why they're private.

If they're going to background check for pornographic work maybe they should start doing psych exams to find all these pedophiles amongst their ranks...you know, the ones who didn't work in pornography.

Keep in mind that States have strict behavioral, character and integrity standards for those who desire a teaching career - after all, their lives are "role model" examples for students, to promote upright citizenship. Read your local school's revised codes pertaining to teachers.

Jermo-1093635 - If states have such a strict whatever you said - then how come we see all over this nation about teachers Molesting the kids they supposedly teach? Some of these so called teachers had been charged BEFORE they became teachers and the schools STILL allow them to so call "teach".

Da Troof: The truth is your opinion is just as asinine as you are. So what if this man did gay porn, whats your point? He didn't molest any kids, he doesn't have a criminal background, so really what is your issue with him being a teacher? If Jenna Jameson became a teacher, a lot more dads would get involved with their kids activities at school..lol.. I see no harm as long as the kids are safe. He is a man who had sex with consenting adults. I would much rather have a gay ex porn star teaching my children vs a child molestor. I say let this man teach, we all come from different walks of life.

Pornography is illegal in Belarus.

Production and distribution of pornography in the DPRK (North Korea) is illegal.

Internet pornography was outlawed in the People's Republic of China in 2002. In general porn is illegal in China.

Indonesia pornography is illegal.

In Malaysia, it is illegal to sell or possess

Any kind of pornography is illegal in the Philippines.

Pornography laws in Thailand prohibit all types of pornography.

Pornography is illegal in Vietnam and enforcement against it is strict

In Iran, the possession of any type of pornography is illegal.

A government that can ban porn can ban free speach and usually does!

You may not like porn, and I may not like it, but the fact is that it is not illegal to act in a porn flick. The man did not break the law, he was was supporting himself with a legal work. Unless he did something against school or district policy, I don't see how they could have fired him.

Zack Baines - So don't watch it, no one's making you. Besides, as the article says, this was his past employment.

Porn is pretty much what made the internet the widely accessible medium it is today - if it'd been illegal, the www. would still be a small niche for computer geeks :D

Zack Ill send you ten bucks if you will keep saying stupid things . I love to watch Hot-in-Miami respond .

Well maybe but keep an eye on this one ... the fact that he did GAY porn may make him get an assignment to head up the new "Free and Open Lifestyles" classroom curriculum research and development section that will soon be implemented in Elementary schools. I say this in jest, but in today's education environment and objectives, I fear I may be more accurate than wrong.

Being gay or acting in a gay role, and working in the porn industry is not legal. I certainly wouldn't want my kid to know that his teacher did such work, but I don't see how they could fire him for that.

Why exactly is Gay porn worse than any other kind of porn? And why is his past employment history an issue here?

Unless he was making his students watch it or was talking about it in class, I don't see what the big deal is.

Homesick: Wrong, fail. There is nothing illegal about "being gay or acting in a gay role, and working in the porn industry..." If you have a problem with that, move to one of the countries Devil's Son listed. I guarantee you'll be truly homesick then.

@ItIsWhat!t!s

You go it wrong People should realize that their decisions can, and will be judged by narrow minded stupid people on things that have nothing to do with the employment he is doing. IF he was a rubbish teacher fire him if he was a good teacher keep him.

i HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU TOTALLY

IF HE WERE A FOOTBALL COACH there wouldn't have been a skweek or sound spoken to anyone

he wasnt in a career that would take him anyplace so changed and now because someone on the school football coaching staff was sitting in a gay lounge watching pron saw him he's out the door

sue their ass off especally if he was doing nothing wrong

and if all teachers were to have to take a lie detector test and some up front questions wer ask them half would be out and the rest are likely either lay down dumb or high nosed snobs with the exception of one and that one wasn't at school that day

In any event, a former gay-porn actor is far less likely to permanently damage his students than any Sunday school minister preaching the ancient Hebrew doctrines of hate, fear and xenophobia.

What do you know of hebrew doctrines? Have you ever sat in on a class? Or are you only spouting what the liberal left wants to tell you.

I'm an ordained minister Unhappy, study of these documents made up a significant portion of my life at one time. I've since recovered. If you had ever actually read the Bible rather than simply listening to what your priest or rabbi chooses to make a part of his lesson, you might think differently. I would suggest a book... Thomas Paine's "The Age of Reason", but I imagine your fear is too great to entertain rationality or logic.

Mjolnir - you left out the most important part of your early Biblical studies: What profit is there if a man gains all the prestige, possessions, wealth, knowledge and fame the world has to offer, then loses his soul to Hell? You know the answer.

For the law of the Spirit of life [which is] in Christ Jesus [the law of our new being] has freed me from the law of sin and of death - Rom 8:2

And this is the record, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life. He who does not have the Son of God does not have life - I John 5:11-12

What we believe determines where we go at death.

I'm an ordained minister Unhappy, study of these documents made up a significant portion of my life at one time. I've since recovered. If you had ever actually read the Bible rather than simply listening to what your priest or rabbi chooses to make a part of his lesson, you might think differently. I would suggest a book... Thomas Paine's "The Age of Reason", but I imagine your fear is too great to entertain rationality or logic.

Mojolnir: You are assuming too much. First you are assuming that I have never read the bible in its entirety, and second that you are assuming that I am only taking the words of my rabbi or priest as fact. The fact is, you might have a studied as a rabbi or priest would, and still you don't believe. So it is obvious to everyone, that you were never meant to be an ordained minister. You should have never had entered the church.

²⁰ If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. ²¹ It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. ²² Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,”^[a] and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”( 2 Peter 2: 20-22)

Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,”^[a] and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”

must be speaking of evangelicals...

Perhaps this is the very same gay teacher referred to in Genisis as "The fruit of the tree of knowledge".

So because you have never heard of homosexuals attacking little children, you are saying that it doesn't exist? PS. There is a huge difference between "recant" and "recall",

Where is the proof of that?

Ever hear of Allie Sin?

So.... that was true of one porn star, so it must be true of all of them? Good logic!

Unsurprising logic given their previous statements.

@unhappy you said. That's because most porn stars were molested as children or molested children while they were making the child porn videos. In which case, those were not legal for you to watch.

You are a freakin idiot. did you make this stuff up all by yourself. Since you quoted no source for your information, I can only assume you are as ignorant and bigoted as you sound. But it is ok, our constitution protects free speech, even for the intellectially challenged.

If someone has to tell you, then you wouldn't understand their answer anyway.

Thanks for answering my question MesaMax. It all makes sense now.

What do you think is the right MORAL response to this guy? Not everything that is legal is moral or right. Don't depend on the law to tell you what is right and wrong. The law only tells you what is legal or illegal.

MesaMax

Your morality =/= my morality =/= another's morality

Morality is not universal. Never attempt to apply it as such. Legality is what matters in a secular society (of which this nation is).

MesaMax, replace the word homosexual with heterosexual in your comment and I can point you towards dozens of recent cases. That being said, I'm not sure what you are trying to say. That all homosexuals are sexual predators or that it is morally just to prey on underage students as long as they are the opposite sex?

MesaMax,

Your morals are so twisted that you continue to "judge, lest you be judged". And by your own beliefs...you will be judged.

Haven't you put enough of your self righteous B.S. Who the hell are you to tell people how to live their lives. I am a conservative Marine combat veteran and am heterosexual. I do have a son that is gay. And let me put it to you this way. He has every right to live his life the way he wants. I served to protect his right to be gay if he wants as well as your right to be a self righteous blowhard. IDIOT!

I only see bigoted posts from you. What the hell do you care if someone is gay?

MesaMax why don't you keep your B.S to yourself. You are the worst kind of bigot, one that thinks he has an intelligent reason to spout hate and intolerance. You have shown your ignorance with each and every one of your comments. I hope for society's sake, you did not reproduce.

MesaMax is unable to accept that probably the majority of the vocal "homosexual apologists" are actually heterosexuals.

Mathuin...teachers aren't supposed to have sex lives. Plus, they are supposed to be happy working for nothing, take all kinds of abuse no one else would be expected to, be happily fulfilled...and they are probably also expected to walk on water and be able to turn water into non-alcoholic wine at the parent-teacher conferences.

Oh Pooper, you hate women as well as Jew's, ( darn Zionist plots). Except for mom,she makes you Mac and Cheese,and not the generic stuff,actual Kraft ! Probably the only way she can get you out of the basement. Hey Pooper is my spelling OK ? I don't want to embarrass my construction/plumber co- workers you know.

Lame, Lammy, and in violation of the COH regardless of your disagreement with Pauper.

Allswell I don't know if you are his buddy or him under a different name,the Lame reference might just be a clue.If you want code of conduct violations I will copy and paste some of AmericanPauper's for the whole community to see, post that he has posted,and replied to other users post,He is rude,makes personal attacks, question people's intelligence,calling them names I could go on. So if I were I would back off,if you are indeed Pauper under a different name,you had better clean up your act,with the negative post,the name calling etc. or there WILL BE A REPORT FILLED! Have a nice day.

Exceedingly lame, Lammy. I don't know who Pauper is, and I don't care who he (or you) are.

Your entire post was an attack and insult on him. Your history with him doesn't matter. Just as your entire followup post is a veiled threat to me. What one does wrong does not make doing wrong in return right.

The best part about it is you resort to capslock. Over-involve much? Try breathing.

If your not him or his buddy,then I apologize allswell,the Lame reference is one of his little things,so that's what threw me off,its not just me this guy has an issue with,he has been tearing up people for 2 days,now that I have thought it over,probably the best course of action is to report him,yes my conduct might get me censured,his bile surely will get him in trouble. Once again,I apologize.

By the way allswell,I did look up some of your post,I do applaud your support of gay and lesbian rights.As a parent of a homosexual child,its good to know people are on here fighting the bigotry directed at homosexuals.

Thanks, I'm glad we came to some consensus (yes I reported him too).

And indeed I am an ardent supporter of equal rights. I've met too many idiots who believe they have the right to forcefully define "morally deficient persons" rights.

Lamey, you need to get back on your Meds....whoa!...that is some rage issue you've got there! That construction work is really stressful, I bet.

Or, he's a closeted "something else." To paraphrase Shakespeare, me thinks he doth protest too much.