Hospitals use inhalation therapy with all kinds of chemicals right in the room on the patient next to you.

You mean that they could not have figured out how to use the same techniques to vaporize her medical marijuana? Gimme a break.

And at the very least they could have wheeled her outside so she could take her medical marijuana.

How ridiculous. We have a doctor-prescribed medicine (medical marijuana) that a hospital cannot seem to find a way to administer. Are you kidding me?

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...............hospitals use inhalation therapy with all kinds of chemicals.....................

US1776: So which of those chemicals are harmful to other patients? And why would you expect a hospital to have a marijuana inhalation program when thw CDC has deemed it an addictive drug. I realize healthcare workers also smoke and inject dope but only at their own risk.

She could have used an hash oil derivative (62% THC) (at least mine is...) and this story wouldn't even had happen. There IS more than smoking or vaporizing marijuana to get THC into your body.

Hospitals administer narcotics which are considered addictive - no logic to that argument. She needs an edible, hash oil or tincture.

imnotlost
"when thw CDC has deemed it an addictive drug. I realize healthcare workers also smoke and inject dope but only at their own risk."

you need to stop telling lies sir...pure unfounded LIES...CDC never declared it addictive or harmful in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM. Now for the next factoid Mr head-up-butt...people do not inject marijuana...

You are full of sheeet sir, full of sheeet.

Micky M. She need to get off the crap and break the habit.

imnotlost, first of all, marijuana is not addictive. There are no withdrawal symptoms from marijuana whatsoever. Second, she has a prescription from her doctor for medical marijuana. Third, marijuana has been used by the human race for over one hundred thousand years for hundreds of different beneficial purposes. From medical uses and pain relief to manufacture of textiles, to industrial products. Hemp is one of the worlds most amazing plants. And prior to 1916 all drugs were legal in the United States - just as the founding fathers had intented. Personal freedom, personal liberty and personal responsibility.

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Imnotlost, first off the drugs they use in inhalers are not good for you if they are not prescribed for you, so yes, they are harmful chemicals to other patients. Second, opiates are prescribed everywhere, everyday and they are addictive, while marijuana is not. Third, the woman is terminally ill, in pain and suffering seizures, why would anyone want to refuse her the medicine that helps her get through the day? Even if it were addictive (it's not) who cares? She's dying, for pity's sake!

imnotlost...

She's dying and in pain...you heartless a$$hole

Smoking in a hospital is a no-no regardless of the substance and I don't know enough about the vaporization process to comment on whether or not it would be a problem. The obvious solution is to take the lady outside to smoke her weed then roll her back in. However, the thing to take into consideration here is that some doctors are pissed off that marijuana is considered a medicine. Since they see it as a harmful drug and approach it with the mentality of "I'm the medical professional so I know best" they tend to be an @!$%# about it even in states where it is legal.

UnitedStates1776: I've only ever seen it's use cited to about 5-7k years ago. Where did you find the hundred thousand years scenario?

Why not just take a smoke break outside? Oh, wait it wouldn't make a difference because you're using marijuana which has been linked to Refer Madness! good grief.... puff away and give them the one finger salute.

Plenty of smoke - free is available.

Brownies, cookies, or just capsule form.

Takes a bit longer for the effect but...

I'm sorry, but she's not too bright. There are many ways to consume medicianl THC without smoking or vaporizing, especially at the dispensaries. Sounds like she just wants the attention.

It's not about refusing her medicine that helps her get through her day it's about not jeopardising the health of all their other patients including children, neonates, those with chronic lung disease by exposing them to secondhand smoke.

When a person needs medication it is the doctor AND the hospital's duty to treat that patient with the best available medication possible. IF THAT IS MARIJUANA THEN THAT IS WHAT SHOULD BE USED. If a hospital does not medicate their patients properly, then they should be held responsible for all suffering involved, MONETARILY.

@imnotlost. Yes, you most certainly are lost, profoundly. She has an inoperative brain tumor, she is terminal, her doctor prescribed it to her. Marijuana is not addictive in the least, that has been proven over and over again. You seem to be addicted to being a troll, and an ignorant one at that.

Please sign this petition... we get at least 150 sigs it gets published for public view on the website. It's time we started pushing Congress for full legalization. Feel free to pass along the URL to any/all who wishes to support this. Thanks!

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/legalize-marijuana/l3TChtzy

I know you have good intentions with the white house petition thing but let me be the first to fill you in. There have all ready been several petitions regarding legalization and they were removed from the site being deemed inappropriate topics.

You are wasting your time with that site.

Obama is never going to support ending marijuana prohibition or ending the drug war.

First, do no harm.

Second, forget the first.

Aussie has it right, it's not about denying her the marijuana, it's about the comfort and safety of the other patients around her. Second had smoke, even in marijuana's case, is still harmful especially to children and those who can't be around smoke. If it was that important she should have just gone outside to smoke it then come back in, as it is she has every right to go to a different hospital just as they have every right to stick to their rules.

I would love all those claiming her rights were restricted see their tunes change if they were the parent or loved one of a sick patient in an adjacent bed whose illness is prolonged or worsened by this woman smoking on the ward. The hospital has a duty to balance their obligations to an individual with the other patients in the hospital, the simple fact is marijuana is a symptom controlling medication and her symptom control does not give her the right or the hospital an obligation to expose other patients, staff and visitors to the risks of second hand smoke

OneDirtyRat

I know you have good intentions with the white house petition thing but let me be the first to fill you in. There have all ready been several petitions regarding legalization and they were removed from the site being deemed inappropriate topics.

You are wasting your time with that site.

Obama is never going to support ending marijuana prohibition or ending the drug war.

If you don't want to sign it then don't, but keep the pessimism to yourself please.

Don't mess with Big Pharma; they do not take Kindly to anyone using a Natural Medicine they cannot Profit from.

Fed Up

puff away and give them the one finger salute.

Duly noted; I try my best.

Hey I love bud, but there are a few methods of using it that do not involve smoking.. brownies anyone?

US1776, MMJ can not be prescribed, it is recommended by the Dr., that's where the hangup is in most cases.

Going on my personal experience getting my rec., I have been a patient of Dr. A. for 5 years and we have been trying to find a med for my back pain, after 3 years I asked about MMJ and he agreed it could help my issues with the back pain and ensuing sleep troubles so he gave me a printed recommendation saying in his opinion MMJ could potentially benefit me.

They want her on THEIR DRUGS!! The ones that KILL YOU!

they're not allowing her to double-dip

RE 1.22

It's not about pessimism. It's pragmatism. Online petitions mean squat. The ONLY petition that counts is one where there is paper/written documentation (you'll sometimes see them being carted into the halls of State governments in a convoy of boxes...), signed by real people who are also registered voters... It takes being out on the street, talking to people, getting them to sign yer bloody petition...

PS-Federal prohibition can be overturned (according to the US constitution; whether that means anything these days...?) by ratification in 3/4 (38) of the States (which, according to the same legal document, are supposedly sovereign)... Clicking on a link on the (heavily censored) internet is useless, no matter how good it makes you feel.

No offense.

@1.29 Not true. Perhaps you are thinking of all those amateur petitions put out. But there are official organizations that use online petitions effectively. Of course, the signer has to use a verifiable name, address, email, etc.

I have never seen any evidence of efficacy when it comes to online petitions. That doesn't mean it's never happened. Online anything (including this forum) is illusory at best; like TV for the future...

Do you have evidence of an online petition that changed a federal law? I'm not saying you don't. I'd just like to see it, if you do...

diatribe

RE 1.22

It's not about pessimism. It's pragmatism.

pes·si·mism

   /ˈpɛs əˌmɪz əm/ Show Spelled[pes-uh-miz-uhm] Show IPA

noun
1. the tendency to see, anticipate, or emphasize only bad or undesirable outcomes, results, conditions, problems, etc.:

I also get out with joint efforts to fill all petitions, whether paper or electronic, on both state and federal levels. How many nay-sayers can say the same? Again, if you would like to at least make an attempt, then sign it, if you want to be pessimistic about it, then whatever. Haters are gonna hate.

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/legalize-marijuana/l3TChtzy

I signed the paper petition in my State... every election cycle it comes around... Has nothing to do with hate. Do what makes you feel good...

...you could have also copied the definition of "pragmatism."

It is a smoke free CAMPUS. Meaning you can not smoke any where on hospital grounds. The hospital, due to liability issues, can not allow a patient under their care to go wandering around the streets to smoke. She is a single patient, hospitals do not have the nursing staff to assign to this woman 24/7 as her personal escort to smoke. There is a wealth of other drugs available. She does not need THC.

Why couldn't she have taken it in a brownie or some other non-smoking form? She's an activist trying to make a statement - if she just wanted the relief that marijuana is supposed to provide, she could've obtained that in a form that doesn't inconvenience others with second hand smoke or a contact high.

And if she abso-fakking-lutely had to smoke it, why couldn't she have just wheeled herself out to a smoking area and fired up there?

Yeah, she's dying and everything, but you know something? Each and every single one of us has lost and will lose family and friends and loved ones to the Grim Reaper, and sooner or later we'll all join them in the great beyond. Illness and pending death aren't a license to risk the health and well being of others without need. Second hand smoke and contact highs for those that don't want it are just a rude and impolite inconvenience to impose on others, particularly others who don't know you from Adam, when there are alternatives.

SinisterPhnx:

If you don't want to sign it then don't, but keep the pessimism to yourself please.

Geez dude, relax would ya?

What you see as pessimism I see as being realistic.

I sign online petitions all the time but those petition signatures are transferred to paper and delivered in person to the recipients. That "We the People" website is a crock for it's censored for "appropriate" topics. Again, you are wasting your time. My suggestion is to start a petition on a better website like Change.org, for example. Or an even better website is NORML.org I'm all for signing petitions especially when it comes to ending marijuana prohibition or ending the war on drugs.

On another note, I wouldn't tell people to shut-up, especially on the vine. That's basically what you said to me when you said "keep the pessimism to yourself". You, or anyone for that matter, will NOT keep me from expressing my opinions.

With that said, I applaud you in your efforts to ending the insanity of drug prohibition and the drug war.

Diatribe @1.31 I think ACLU, DCCC, DGA, AARP, a couple of women's groups, etc. do have some effect with online petitions. At least the ACLU takes court cases and the DCCC & DGA influence voting on issues. But I'm a member so they have verifiable info for me. I'm talking about other political issues rather than medical marijuana.

When I mentioned "amateur" I was thinking of Change.org since I don't know if it has any affect at all. At least with online petitions it keeps me off the paper junk mail lists and I throw most I do get in the trash.

On another note, I wouldn't tell people to shut-up, especially on the vine. That's basically what you said to me when you said "keep the pessimism to yourself". You, or anyone for that matter, will NOT keep me from expressing my opinions.

I never tell anyone to shut up anywhere, but yes, if people's only imput into the matter is going to play the downside / no hope aspect of the situation, then yes, I would perfer them to keep it to themselves. That type of rhetoric only discourages others from participating and does nothing to help the cause. Nobody has to participate, but don't be a downer for anyone considering getting involved. Stay positive.

How do you feel about online voting?

Stay positive.

Again, you confuse my being realistic as being negative. I'm positive that weed will be legalized. It's just a matter of time.

Have you signed any petitions on any other sites other than "We the people"?

Can cause stomach irritability. No pot for you have this heroin based opium derivative.

And if this woman had put marijuana in her tea then there would have been no problem, the issue is she wanted to smoke it inside a building which contain other people with pneumonia, kids with cystic fibrosis, premature babies and I could go on and on, the hospital has a duty of care to provide a safe environment for all their patients. I can just see the headline, "premature infant on ventilator dies after hospital air supply found to be contaminated with marijuana smoke"

Pot cures boredom. That's it.

speedy, untreated/uncontrolled seizures cause brain damage and eventually death. marijuana components have been shown to stop seizure activity for some people, including little children. so yes, not being able to smoke could contribute to her death.

I agree with some others who have mentioned that she could have chosen to eat her medicine, but I suspect a certain level of frustration (and perhaps a wish on her part) to continue to publicize the lack of legal access to marijuana for medical purposes. particularly since opiate derivatives are regularly prescribed (although even that becomes increasingly threatened by the continued 'war on drugs').

Instead you think people with cystic fibrosis and premature babies with incredibly fragile lungs should lack legal access to a hospital free of smoke?

can't imagine who you're replying to Rob, since none of the posts you might be replying to said that she should have been allowed to smoke pot in the hospital? but in case you need clarification- no, I don't think she should be allowed to smoke pot in a hospital. there is a small chance that pot is controlling her seizures, in which case she should have eaten it. I feel she made a stink because she is trying to draw attention to the legalization issue. no, I do not support anyone ever smoking anything in an area where someone who doesn't smoke might have to smell it- including outside the doors of bars or stores, or in a car or home with children present-even your own. and yes, I do know a little bit about people with cystic fibrosis, having lost 2 siblings to the disease and I am quite familiar with their need for clean air

I agree, I watch my mother suffer from chronic pain due to arthritis but she would never dream of using marijuana for it because it is illegal. But opiates aren't. Go figure.

paramed---we've come along way but we have a long way to go regarding treatment of terminally ill patients. my mother suffered from stomach cancer. she was given insufficient pain killers {afraid she might become addicted) and while she was in excruciating pain was left to suffer until a family member called her doctor threatening him with severe harm if he did not give her something. she was admitted to hospice care and hooked up to a morphine pump. she was in a coma so the nurses raised her level at the slightest sign of discomfort. she was finally free of pain. this kind gentle woman who cared for every creature that crossed her path deserved a peaceful death----this country has a hysteric drug phobia where marijuana is concerned. every night tv bombards us with commercials regarding the latest drugs with a laundry list of side effects ''that may include death''. maijuana has a legitimate curative property and deserves to be considered legal for medicinal use-period.

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It is amazing that people who have no medical condition lie and get opiates and abuse them and when someone REALLY needs them, the concern about abuse comes out. I saw it with my Dad, who was restricted in his painkillers for a broken neck, while another family member gets plenty of pills with hardly any oversight.

As to MJ being too addictive to use as a pain treatment, get real. there are more and more prescription pill abusers every day. The difference is who profits. Dr's don't profit from marijuana, they can from prescribing pills.

Yes, eventually. The only reason it's not now is because nobody has been able to figure out how to synthetically produce it and dispense it in pill form, which is "consistent with how we do things in the USA". Consistent with the fact that if the pharmecutical companies can't rape you or your insurance company, it will not become legal at the federal level.

Why didn't they give her cannibinol? (sp?)

BS, pot stimulates the appetite, relieves nausea, make sleep easier, reduces pain and is nonaddictive. It helped me a lot more than the Oxycontin that the doctor prescribed for me after a major knee surgery.

dmu2cc- And you don't have a clue what you are talking about, you skipped over stories talking about the help medical marijuana has giving people.

dmu2cc - I have Multiple Sclerosis. I am not a criminal, I am a patient. My neurologist suggested that I use medical marijuana to reduce my chronic pain. Nothing works better. I don't get high, I get relief. Walk a mile in my shoes (or stumble, as is the case) before you spout off about something of which you know nothing. BTW, I'm a law-abiding, 57 year old grandmother...just in case you wanted to know.

Intelligent comment by butt. This post is about one thing and one thing only. Trolling!!!! PERIOD.

dmu2cc-2829260, is just another troll. Please do not respond.

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@bigbendjc

Damn straight!!!

Yeah, we sure don't want someone like you smelling that crap. Not only might you unload your Glock, but worse, you wouldn't have to use a Caterpillar to pull a needle out of you butt. Fortunately, the Pentagon agrees with your position. We need every psychotic malcontent that we can get our hands on, especially since Rumsfeld ruined the military. It's a national security issue...

Yes, the Pentagon does agree with me. Maybe I can keep my Glock in my coat for now. It would take a dozer to get a needle out of my a*s. You see, I'm a virgin there and always will be. You on the other hand could probably park the Presidential beast there and be able to open the doors. Drugs make people do weird things man.

Marijuana is not a drug. It is s natural substance that, as much as idiots try to prove it is bad stuff, it still remains a Godsend for many.

I suggest if you are against pot that you never smoke or pay for any. Also stay away from those that do. Other than that, please mind your own business.

THC is a drug. Quit smoking and read a book. Also, I stay away from those that do. I walked out of a restaurant in CA. with my wife and kids and had some idiot light up a joint in front of my kids. I put it out on his cheek. See, I mind my business. Now, the GED training center is right down the hall to the left.

You put it out on his cheek.. k.. For someome that's concerned about what his/her kids are exposed to, you seem to take assault pretty lightly. Just saying.

Glock9unloaded, why don't you go do some target practice?The woman is dying for god sakes.A lot of people are on medical marijuana! FOR MEDICAL PURPOSES.See the word MEDICAL PURPOSES?Which end of this equation does that brain of yours not comprehend?

You stay away from those that do?Good they don't need you there.You're doing them a favor!

gloria, "why don't you go do some target practice?The woman is dying for god sakes"

Are you implying you want me to shoot her? Shame on you. Go to your room!

When I was young, I never knew anyone who smoked MJ. When I got older, I hardly knew anyone who didn't. Funny, I knew the same people all that time.

Displays of violence in front of your children is child abuse. Wave your glock all you want and crush a butt on someones cheek with your children around in front of me and you WILL have recurring visits from CPS, and maybe a court ordered year in anger management to clear your probation.

Light one up in front of my family and you'll suck steak from a straw for a year. Take that to the bank druggie. Respect my family and we'll have no problems. BTW, the police were called and one of the guys was arrested. The other coward ran. The police had NO problem with me. Thank the establishment. I do.

For the record I don't use it or any other drug. I don't even smoke. And please keep assaulting people. Sooner or later you'll have charges pressed against you and they can take away your 2nd ammendment rights. People with violent explosive tempers lile yourself sure as hell shouldnt be allowed to own firearms.

less, luckily for you, I do own and will explode when needed. I always keep it legal and the law sides with me so wishful thinking. My guns ARE my right.

Burn my cheek and you'd wind up with the Glock up your ass.

Wow. Lotta trolls on this subject.

Pippo, like I said, light up in front of my kids and you'll suck steak through a straw for a year. Try to reach for my legal concealed piece, your family would be asked to identify your a*s.

Such violence over someone smoking a joint? That's sending your kids a real good message. You are basically teaching your kids that using violence to solve an issue is OK. Don't you think there is a problem with that?