I would like to see how the DEMS would react if the flag had SARA'S picture there!!!

The dems would have blown a gasket!

I would like to see how the DEMS would react if the flag had SARA'S picture there!!!

Who?

Nobody's picture belongs on this flag. To have the President's picture there and those songs of glorifying him sung by schoolchildren is not appropriate in this country. It would work in China, North Korea or Venezuela. Those who go this far in their hero worship certainly have crossed the line to hysteria.

Your mom/sister's house?

Another distraction issue. Obama had nothing to do with this. It was isolated. AND the read American Flag was flying above it (not mentioned in this article.) Yes, it was in bad taste, but seriously... this is not worthy of national news.

US citizen : watch it ! Better occupy yourself with the question why Obama would not allow the re-importation of American-made M1 Garand from South Korea. One million of those weapons were stored in South Korea during the Korean War and South Korea now would like to return those weapons to the United States. It is an important part of American history but Obama will not allow it. See more on Rand Paul's website.

AnaBanana, you have a fitting screen name ! With what justification do you call those verterans racist ? Did they only fight for their own ethnicity ? Certainly not. It speaks of intellectual poverty to play the race card just because citizens do not want their flag despoiled.

Teahead,

Typical, we don't want to see Obama on a flag so that means we want to see a person in a white hood.

That's one of the biggest problems here. If someone doesn't like Obama they are always a racist.

What an A*s CLOWN!!

out in the woods

Look at the laws that have been passed to control the population. They sure as hell wouldn't want us armed.

Retgov, What specifically has he done?

Ana-why are the racist? Because they don't want a picture on the flag? Better check the definition of that word again. While you're busy defending Fluke and Pelosi, better think about the things liberals have said about Palin and her children. Both sides do it. Playing the racist card is ignorant.

It has absolutely nothing to do with which person's head might be on the flag. The flag I fought for has fifty stars on it, not just one.

You want to put his picture on something, put it on the Trillion Dollar Bill.

It's totally wrong to put his picture on the flag....but he is the President. Just say it's wrong, don't go anti American and slander the President. That's what they do in the anti American countries. Who's idea was it to desecrate the flag anyway? I mean really, not a wacko anti Obama comment. I want to know who did this.

This is not a issue of what political party or what race is involved. This is a matter of respect. The flag is a symbol of this great nation and to alter it in any way is wrong.

Come on, dem's. There is no excusing it. That was a dumb idea. I don't think it means "Stalin" or anything else as silly as that but...That was just dumb. And for the morons who flew it, oh please...!

Anyone with a brain should have been able to figure out that flying the American flag with any president's face on it is scary looking.. Are you suggesting that poeple should pledge allegance to the president as they do the flag? I wouldn't do it and I voted for the current president.

has the democratic party in Florida lost it's ever loving mind; i can think of nothing that would unite the opposition more; Obama mania is turning into a cult, just like Stalin, Mao,hitler, Chavez, Castro.

Now all you lemmings can officially pledge allegiance to the great divider.

http://www.amazon.com/OBAMA-PRANK-GAG-TOILET-PAPER/dp/B003AKASWM

An American flag that has been altered with ANYONE'S face is disrespectful. While it doesn't say who is responsible for manufacturing the flag, I would be really embarrassed if I were Obama. It's inappropriate, and not a good pic of him either. It is incredible how many are ignorant about respect or rules. And it does invoke images of countries I could never want to live in. Considering how poorly this President has done, I can't understand why there are any hero-worshipping followers of him. (Yet I saw a college student on the news Tuesday when the President came to Dayton and her description of what she considered the positive things Obama has done naive at best and totally based on a cradle to grave entitlement mentality that has no concept of where the money is going to come from to pay for Obama's entitlements. A total disconnect with reality. People like her will vote for him and keep dragging us down the road to third world status.)

NOBAMA 2012

ana banannnnnna, (1.17)

I don't care for the disrespect either but I call a spade a spade... Is this a black thing too? Like the N-word? You can call a spade a spade, but not one of us'ns. Get off your high racist horse. Even your OBAMA said to "get over it" a couple of times.

You guys crack me up. You don't even realize how much YOU are fanning the flames of racism by your words and accusations.

I'd rather have Jimi Hendrix on the American flag...The Great Uniter!

Uh Scales....you know the President has condoned this HOW????

A zealous group bought something (that has been on the market since 2008) and displayed it in support of their President.

It is not against any law to do this, in fact, there's a little thing called an Amendment to the Constituation that protects our right to free speech. The vets who are complaining about this fought for this right and many other freedoms.

The same Amendment that protects Rush's right to say what he wants, or Bill Mahrer, or Ann Coulter, or YOU. Be glad that Amendment is there....otherwise you couldn't voice your love/hate, nor could anyone else.

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The only Obama-faced item I'd buy is toiletpaper. Anybody know where I can get a roll or two?

Yes. In the paint department at Home Depot. Ask for 60 grit.

With this Guy's face on the Flag,they're going in the right direction, into turning this country into a Socialist Dictatorship!

All Hail The Fearless Leader!

Hey Obama Lies,have anymore of that toilet paper left?I'll take a few rolls!

http://maggiesnotebook.blogspot.com/2009/06/get-your-tea-party-flag-must-have.html

Check this out even dated 2009

Noah-

You can get these flags through his campaign but nobody's mentioning that...it's not isolated.

ANABANANA!!

First of all Fluke wasn't attacked, she was called a name in a sarcastic rant by a radio personality. If you are going to play that hand you've got waaayyyy too many examples that overshadow your example within the liberal realm. So if you'd like to go a couple of rounds on that topic we can do that, but you will lose so badly by factual example that I wouldn't suggest it.

Secondly, anyone that needs 3k in two years for contraception is one of two things. Either an idiot for paying a street dealer massively hiked prices for something they can get at Wal-mart for $4. Or, they're a slut/sex maniac/whatever because they are going through 3k worth of condoms and birth control. Either way, your crying about something completely irrelevant to the presidents face on our flag. Too many people have spilled blood for the right to fly that flag...his face doesn't deserve to look at it let alone be on it.

S16949-

Stipid for the Tea Party flags too. But at least they stand for liberty as apposed to tyranny. His philosophy is to put everything in the Governments hands because they are so much wiser and will make much better decisions about your life than you can. Nothing should be on that flag except the stars. So you post a link to the Tea Party flag...how does that make baracks face on it ok? Great logic.

This is not just about Obama. Any use of the flag other then flying it on a flag pole is disrespectful.

How many vets that hate the Obama flag are driving Toyota's and Nissan's just to thank our dead vets for the bombing of Pearl Harbor? Oh how forgiving we are...

First, it's not even the American flag without the star field. It's a design, that's all. Secondly, it's was flown beneath the real American flag in front of the Democratic headquarters. You people complaining are seriously trite.

Cull I would say it is not the first time someone has defaced the flag, but no one should let it be the first time anyone let it fly without removing , it makes no difference why they defaced it of what their intent was, it would be kind of like allowing some graffiti artist (if you could call them that ) to go and tag up the graves at Arlington National cemetery it just can not be allowed, for any reason. Not really anything trite about it simply a matter not tolerating disrespect , even if the intent was not disrespect when it was conceived. There has been just too much blood behind by people of every political stripe it to allow anyone to deface it or exploit it for their own political ends.

Your right we did not fight for the flag but it is a symbol for what we fought for. It stands for a nation that we would die for. Yes I will salute the flag and the solider in a parade and that is my right. Yes I will get mad when I see someone deface that symbol for our nation.

"I'm a Vet from 1961 and I think everyone is over reacting about nothing" PS This Flag defacing has been going on for years, I saw one with Bush on it at a Vets hall in 1997 and looked at it as a joke.

denver bill 2

"It has absolutely nothing to do with which person's head might be on the flag. The flag I fought for has fifty stars on it, not just one."

PRECISELY!!! I'll live the rest of my life regretting that I can't say that I fought for our Stars and Stripes on the battefield, it's absolutely shameful that I have the opportunity to do it here against my own country"men". Denver Bill, thank you for fighting for the right cause - I'll never forget this post.

The only Obama-faced item I'd buy is toiletpaper. Anybody know where I can get a roll or two?

Yeah...as if Obama himself put the picture on it! You right wingers will go to any lengths to find something to hate on...

Scales,

The article does not mention WHO authorizedthe artwork. And while I agree that the form is very unfortunate. The same face against a background of wavy red, white and blue lines would have been just as effective. But for all we really know, this was just a commercially developed product picked up for distribution through the campaign, much like the original Obama "Change" posters of 2008.

Out in the Woods,

Tell me exactly what returning a million M1 Garands from South Korea would accomplish. Drive the price of a high-power military semi-automatic rifle down to $25? What would that do to the US arms manufacturers, like Henry, Armalite, or Colt and their employees? When Henry Ford sold the US Army trucks and ambulances for WW I, he specified that NO vehicle be returned to the United States after the war. He knew that the government would sell those vehicles as surplus, potentially killing a year's worth of sales of new vehicles and killing his young company.

Oddly, even if the rifles were returned, they would have to be "de-milled", probably by slug welding the barrel and cutting the receiver and bolt so that they could not be readily repaired.

"It's a cult of personality to show his face, like Stalin or Mao," John Masterjohn, a former Marine and retired schoolteacher from Leesburg, told the Orlando Sentinel. "It's despicable. They don't realize how sick they are."

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This is simply stupid: the Supreme Court itself would hold that it is protected political speech.

But we know the viewing habits of the idiotic self-important marine and his fellow law-illiterate veterans: the FOX cesspool, because the excuse for ignoring freedom of speech in this instance are the usual far-right lunatic fringe talking points.

These are the same hypocrites who invoke the First Amendment every half-second in order to defend the most vulgar of speech -- so long as uttered by such as Rush Limbaugh. While at the same time endeavoring to tell others how and when -- and whether -- they can express views of which they disapprove.

And let's not notice the cult of personality devoted to Saint Reagan.

Your right we did not fight for the flag but it is a symbol for what we fought for. It stands for a nation that we would die for. Yes I will salute the flag and the solider in a parade and that is my right. Yes I will get mad when I see someone deface that symbol for our nation.

You fought for a government, not me and my fellow citizens. They sent you to die in places that have little or usually NOTHING to do with defense. Their own commercials recruit with Orwellian slogans like "Global Force For Good"....and I bet you believe it.

Don't fight for me. Save your life and abolish the state that sends you into the meat grinder of war for nothing more than expansion of it's own power.

Afghanistan was justified...for about 2 months. After that, it wasn't self defense. They could of destroyed the entire government there in 2 months with our technological advantage. We spent 10 years occupying a country to install a puppet government. Why? For power expansion.

Look up "nationalism", then look up "patriotism"...they ARE NOT THE SAME THING. All national symbols are symbols of the state, not the country. Patriota is Latin for "countrymen", not fellow state (compuslory government) inhabitants.

If you guys refused to fight and sat in a cell instead the state couldn't get away with this crap. They use drones on our people now, passed indefinite detention laws, deny the natural right all human beings have to trial (and that's in the Constituion; it doesn't just apply to Americans), they torture, the lock up your fellow citizens in cages and in chains for harming no one but themselves (if that), and the list of tyranny goes on and on.

I'm just not sympathetic to you going to fight in offensive wars for these clowns. Wake up and refuse to fight...if it isn't self defense you have no excuse for not sitting it out in a cell like a PATRIOT.

When we confuse patriotism for nationalism, it becomes the last refuge of a scoundrel.

"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your
government when it deserves it." - Mark Twain(aka Samuel Clemens)

The government clearly doesn't deserve it. So don't get mad when I deface the stupid piece of cloth...it doesn't represent the people at all, and it's not my fault state schools brainwash you into believing it does everyday as a child saying the national pledge of allegience (which has NOTHING to do with education whatsoever).

Face it, they brainwash us all since we're children into having a sense of nostalgia about the coercive state in which we live. If someone wakes up and realizes it all BS, they are the ones you will say are "wrong". But who's really wrong? I didn't kill anyone, or cheerlead for it, on behalf of the evil state.

All you have to do is refuse and sit in a cell when they take you away. They'll let you out eventually. It's not cowardly...it's ultimate act of bravery and patriotism. Stop acting like it's "defending" the people to fight offensive wars for the state...because I'm not dumb enough to buy it.

out in the woods

Nobody's picture belongs on this flag. To have the President's picture there and those songs of glorifying him sung by schoolchildren is not appropriate in this country. It would work in China, North Korea or Venezuela. Those who go this far in their hero worship certainly have crossed the line to hysteria.

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If it were Reagan, you'd be defending it.

Otherwise, fake "patriot," tell it to the right-wingers on the SC, who held that defacing the flag -- which is your view of it, because it's a picture of the guy who had the gall to be elected President While Being Black -- is protected speech.

It's legal. So tell us how your hatred of others' freedom is a defense of freedom.

Eggberta

She was a plant by pelosi in a mock setting plain and simple. No it's not an attack until we all concede that all like instances are "attacks". I find it humorous that Rush admittedly was addicted to pain killers and sought treatment but he's a drug addict. Yet barack admittedly spent his early years of college doing blow and didn't seek treatment but he's fine and dandy by you guys. F%$&ING-A the hypocrisy is alarming from the left.

Chad-2729725

Your right we did not fight for the flag but it is a symbol for what we fought for. It stands for a nation that we would die for. Yes I will salute the flag and the solider in a parade and that is my right. Yes I will get mad when I see someone deface that symbol for our nation.

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Exactly. When a fellow citizen exercises a RIGHT of which you disapprove, you take it on your self-righteous self to oppose that exercise.

You're a hypocrite. And, based upon your "writing," functionally illiterate.

Those who enlist in the military swear an oath to support and defend the Constitution and laws. The whole of them, not only those which might support suppression of speech of which you disapprove. That includes supporting and defending the existence of the Supreme Court and its decisions -- including the several SC decisions that hold that "defacing" the flag is protected speech. Is LEGAL. Is a RIGHT.

So stop being a self-righteous loud-mouthed bully who is speaking out of both sides of his mouth, based upon arrogant ignorance, opposition to laws and rights you don't like, and hatred of a guy who had the gall to get elected President While Being Black.

This is exactly the type of thing you would see the taliban, a foriegn dictator, Kony, or a warlord do to flaunt their vile influence. I saw this kind of propoganda all the time in the middle east. Billboards all over town of the exalted one, idotic uses of national emblems, and so forth.

denver bill 2 FYI you can use the edit option to correct your post after submission. We can all see that you accidentally noted that there was one star on the flag. None to be seen though. Next time you can open it back up and make the corrections within 5 minutes. Your welcome!

I see the RIGHTWINGNUTTERELIGIONAZIS are out in force on this seed...

4thepeople,

I agree with you that Obama is not a star. I'm sure he has a different opinion. However, my observation was not directed specifically at Obama, but generally at anyone who would put their face on the flag. My comment was exactly what I intended it to be. I'm sorry you couldn't draw the inference.

Most people on here are not even Vets, I see them as racist hatemongers. PS This President had nothing to do with this Flag.

eggberta.......you are my hero! LOL! :)

Eggberta -

Spoken like michelle obama herself. "all this for a damn flag".

Middle Class No More - You are spreading another urban legend. You got an e-mail with a picture of Pres. Obama with no flags behind him. It also had pictures of other Presidents that had flags behind them. Both is true. But it is also true that for those same other Presidents there are pictures with no flags behind them. Pres. Obama has not requested that there be no flags. It's just that picture that doesn't show flags, the same for our other Presidents at least back to and including Pres. Reagan (yes your hero).

While I'm on it, the e-mail that states that President Obama now has curtains, wallpaper and chairs with arabic designs on them is false. Those were picked out of Jackie Kennedy when she was the first lady. It's not an arabic design.

I'm just so sick of those false e-mails.

Hey eggberta, Your post is the best of all, I second that with real "Hero"

Hey obama, you blew it. That is an idea that could have put you into the 1%. It wouldn't necessarily need to be obama, it could be embossed without color at practically no cost, much of it is already embossed with patterns. Already, pelosi, romney, gingrich and reid have come to mind.

I remember some came with jokes, many years ago, so from that stand point I guess someone has beaten you.

You remember the posters on all those store front windows after 9/11, the one which turned the flag into a shopping bag with the words "open for business" on it?

9/11 was a Tuesday, by Thursday almost every car had a flag attached to it somehow. Friday I laminated a dollar bill with packing tape and fixed it to my antenna, because that was the only flag I thought was truly revered by the American people.

Luckily, the local rednecks couldn't figure out if they should be pissed off or not; they'd probably seen the shopping bag flags too, thought maybe it was ok to desecrate the flag if you're standing up for capitalism...

The Obama flag reminded me of Saddam Hussein and a host of other dictators who are and were so fond of seeing their image plastered everywhere so that the populace would never, ever doubt who was in charge. It is typical that the Obama supporters drag out the race card, their arsenal is limited so they use what little they have constantly and in every instance where Obama faces criticism.

It is not surprising that Obama supporters denigrate and attach no importance to a 'piece of cloth.' They don't understand symbolism and they don't understand sacrifice. People died (regardless of the opinions of the rightness or wrongness of the conflicts engaged in) and to denigrate the flag and demean the deaths as meaningless because the conflicts weren't 'valid' ignores the sacrifice, the ultimate sacrifice which men and women gave. Essentially the flag denigraters are ignorant, self-serving and self-absorbed. They don't understand honor or service because they think only of themselves. Obama is seen as an extension of self, ergo, he is idolized.

Beachbum: well said. Thank you.

S16949, So where's the face? There's no cult-of-personality element in your tea party flag example from 2009. Try again.

@ Community:

"First, it's not even the American flag without the star field. It's a design, that's all." OK.

My allegiance is to our Constitution. YEAH, maybe we kinda/sorta make a "pledge" to the 'flag," but mostly for what it "stands for."

I am not Democratic, Libertarian, Republican or Independent. I'm just an American.

Karen

The most appropriate place for obama's picture is a mug shot with a number.

mygirl1

You are wrong and fail to read any posts not leaning your direction.

I have stated that I am an Obama supporter. I do not bring out the "race card", conservatives do that just fine on their own. I understand symbolism and I understand sacrifice. I served in the United States Navy. I'm well aware of the patriotic duties of a serviceman.

I've read your previous posts. You are only patriotic when it is your preferred party president. You disown the country by not standing behind the president when the American people elected him into office. Even I stood behind Bush in both conflicts and through his presidency, whether I liked his policies or not. I was led to believe his actions was honorable. Only after he left office did I criticize him for his deeds.

But you, you talk as if you had the slightest opportunity, you would commit treason to rid the nation of this president.

Don't tell people I am not patriotic. Don't tell them I don't understand symbolism. I said in a previous post, I support the president but do not support defacing our flag with his picture. You portay this story as if the president himself endorsed it. He did not.

Just as I am not condoning the actions of these people, I'm sure other democrats are not either. You owe those an appology for your insults as well. You could have said "some" or "most" supporters. You did not, you threw me and others into a depiction of left wing fanatics.

Your patriotism left with Bush.

dangstraightup

Let me guess, you love America, right?

Your viritroil drives others too far. You make statements like that to insue retaliation. If that is indeed your sentiments on the president, might I suggest you move to Somalia.

It also discredits any points you bring up, as those points would be tainted with your hatred and can not be deemed logical.

You shelled out your intellectual opinions and I've shelled out mine.

Have a nice day.

smmfdmh,

Not really anything trite about it simply a matter not tolerating disrespect , even if the intent was not disrespect when it was conceived. There has been just too much blood behind by people of every political stripe it to allow anyone to deface it or exploit it for their own political ends.

I hear you, but here's one of those places we are going to have to respectfully disagree. 1) Because I do not see it as the American flag since there is no star field, which to my mind, makes it a mere artwork/design and 2) if we are going to inculcate the American flag with irreproachable respect, then it certainly should not be used in any commercial manner whatsoever; on product packaging, highlighting automobile sales and lots, late night infomercials for coins or commemorative plates, coin sales, or any of the other uses of the flag hucksters have and will dream up to use a calls to patriotism to sell some idea or product...the American flag shopping bags mentioned earlier is a perfect example. I find this Obama flag far less offensive by miles than those examples.

What I meant by "trite": Would you think that there would be all this hoopla over the flag in question if the picture on it had been Washington or Lincoln? I highly doubt it. And lastly, please explain how a picture of a President on a design mimicking the American flag is either disrespectful or unpatriotic in the fist place.

correction:

...."in the fist place."

....in the first place.

Nancy Hurlbert, chairwoman of the local Democratic party, told the group that they could not remove the flag, which was given as a gift: "We are proud of our president, we're proud of the United States, and we felt it was time to display that."

This has gone too far! Nancy needs to be removed from her position. Good for the vets! They died fighting for that flag and our freedom and the Democratic Party wants to disrespect it by making Obama a god? Election Day can’t come soon enough!!

Well, Well, Well!

Another desecration of our Nation. Why does it not surprise me? The far Left is in a mind stupor with this stunt. Our fearsome Dear Leader probably adores this new version of the Flag that so many fought for and died for.

This is just disgusting and disgraceful!

One and done. And your right FedupwithFed, election day can't come soon enough. Bah-bye Obama and please don't trash the White house and steal china, etc. like the Clintons did when they left.

The Rightwings heads are exploding! The damage from the vacuums implosions will most likely be in the billions. Anyone know where I can buy one?

Boss: Guess you missed those posts dissing the veterans, dissing the flag and claiming that the flag is nothing but a 'piece of cloth.' Those posts stating that anyone not agreeing with the Obama supporters HAVE to be racists, otherwise they would agree with any and everything the man does. Seems those posts escaped your notice. Calling all veterans racists is rather over-the-top, wouldn't you agree. Seems that poster included everyone and yet you didn't bother to single them out. Nope, you single out a post that takes the tack that dissing the flag and veterans is wrong.

Take offense because I don't support a president who states publicly that he adheres to the UN over the United States constitution, take offense because I respect the office more than the man sitting in it, take offense because that man, like his predecessor, has signed into law a bill that completely invalidates the Bill of Rights, take offense because I state my mind on a public forum and all I can say is I take offense and express my views which, BTW, have just as much validity as yours.

Boss, you said Mr. Obama did not endorse the making of a flag with his picture on it. I'm kind of confused about this, if his face is being publish on any item for sell would there not be an infringement right? You know where he would get his proceeds for the marketing value! I'm thinking there would be, but, that doesn't mean that I'm right.

I do respect the office he serves and while he presides in that office I'll show him respect. Agree with his policies I do not. There have been more rights taken away from the American people since him and Bush declared to be the almighty thinkers for our country. Sure there are others making decisions for our country, but, they are the ones whom finally make the decision.

I'll be surprised if he gets one more term and would respect him more, if he was to step down like he said he would. I find he is no more/less than what all the politicians of promise are. Not saying the ones running are any better, but, this country surely can't take another four years of this. So with respect for your service I say thank you, I too have served this nation. There is no need to thank me; I did out of love for the Constitution and country.

I guess the best question is when will we get someone who loves our country and not the lessor of the two evils? I will give him credit and think that has tried to do his best, still his ideology is only for some of the nations people. He swore to up hold the Constitution and has failed that miserably. The only ones to gain anything other than the rich were people whom donated large sums of money to his campaign. That's not fox talking points people all you have to do is some research and look for the facts and not your hope and change.

mygirl1

In case you missed my posts, I did not condone this issue nor did I write that anyone not taking my view was a racists. I never have posted any comments regarding race, there is no such thing in reality, only in the mental thoughts of people. I do not take offense at your stances, you have every right to them, as do I and any one else.

What I took offense at was your comment, "It is not surprising that Obama supporters denigrate and attach no importance to a 'piece of cloth.'" You did not say most or many or few. You threw me and all Obama supporters into your rant. I also pointed out other posts of said Obama supporters who condemned the issue of placing the presidents picture on a flag and did not, in your words, "denigrate" the flag.

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darrell-1708517

It was the DNC that is making a "profit" however, it is in donations, get it?

Kathleen,

What email? I'm going by watching Obama speak on TV. If you had watched him, you may have noticed the absence of the Flag for quite awhile. For awhile now, since he is in full re-election mode, he has the Flag back.

I've got tons of pictures with Bush 1 and 2, Cheney, Boehner, Cantor, and the die-hard patriot- Rush without a flag near them.

You might be on to something middle class no more! People CAN be photograghed with out the flag!

Eerie!

Bosslimo,

"I also pointed out other posts of said Obama supporters who condemned the issue of placing the presidents picture on a flag and did not, in your words, "denigrate" the flag."

denigrated definition - To attack the reputation of : defame <denigrate one's opponents>

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/denigrate

the stars and stripes is a flag,not a picture frame!

I don't have to be a vet for this one I'm an American. It is not only wrong it is illegal to place any image on the flag or use it for advertising purposes. To the democratic party the US flag code is available in a handy little booklet from the American Legion. I suggest you get one and read it. While you are at it you can get the titular head of your party to apologise to the American people it should be easy he has had lots of practice.

The only Obama-faced item I'd buy is toiletpaper. Anybody know where I can get a roll or two?

You do realize - most folks don't use them as a suppository?

That seems like a bunch for one days use.

Sorry, I checked - that is the correct amount and application for Teabaggers/conservatives/GOPpers ...we will provide expedited shipping at no additional cost as our way of apologizing for questioning your sanitary needs.

Jonathan, this was flown at the Democratic Party, not under your Dockers.

It doesn't matter that others may have gotten away with similar things. It's in poor taste AND against the US flag code of etiquette:

The flag should never have placed on it, or attached to it, any mark, insignia, letter, word, number, figure, or drawing of any kind.

I know Obama had nothing to do with it, but it's just as bad as those photos of Sarah Palin wrapping herself in a flag. It is disrespectful and ignorant.

No free speech that is what the dems are leading us to! Look at all the comments they are closing!

I can see why some people may be upset. But a flag of the United States has 50 stars over a blue field. Even though this evokes an image of the country's flag, it is not.

No free speech that is that the dems are leading us to! Look at all the comments they are closing!

Really Randy ... You might consider what "free speech" is. It means the GOVERNMENT can't infringe upon it ... not individuals or companies. Of course, I also remember people with anti-Bush shirts being removed from political rallies....

However, I think this is really a failing of Newsvine. They give an easy way of agreeing with a comment (the up arrow), but no easy way to DISAGREE. The only way to do that is to report the comment ... or respond. I think we would have many fewer collasped comments if Newsvine would institute a "down arrow", this leaving the reporting to the comments that actually deserve it.

It is illegal to put a face on the flag. NO other president in America would have even let this happen. You people here who support this are fools and really have no idea of right and wrong. Obama has again disgraced the office of the presidency by letting this flag see the light of day AND not aclling on it to be taken down immediately.

So now you want the president to personally go around to buildings throughout this country and take down things that offend people? Wow! What a breathtaking overreach of authority you want this president to engage in.

Putting the picture of a man who has treated the U.S. Constitution like dirt on the American Flag... proof that the thoughtless cult-like infatuation of simple-minded Democrats with the man knows no boundary.

That's a flag that needs to be burned.

While I think it wasn't very bright of these folks to put it on a flag pole just asking for a confrontation, it pales in comparison to Sara Palin's depiction of democratic congressmen and senators with a crosshair on their face. Yet those screaming the loudest in protest of this flag are the first to defend the crosshair debacle.

Mark B. - If you'd actually read the article you might have found these lengthy informative paragraphs in it (reprinted below) stating that it's not in fact illegal to put a face on a flag. The federal flag code is a guideline. Distasteful to put ANY president's image on the flag? Probably. Illegal? Definitely not. Enjoy.

They alleged it was in violation of the federal flag code, though altering an American flag doesn't constitute a crime, Jim Lake, an adjunct professor at the Stetson University College of Law in Tampa, told the Sentinel.

"For good reason, these folks want to encourage respect for the flag, and while such an alteration may be considered disrespectful, the federal government doesn't allow penalties against those who disrespect the flag," Lake said.

The federal flag code is "just standards on how civilians might use the flag," he said, noting that the Supreme Court has ruled that those who burn or intentionally desecrate the flag are protected by the First Amendment.

against the US flag code of etiquette

The "code" is guidelines and NOT law. Because it pissed off several veterans does not make it illegal. I find it just as objectionable to put U.S. flags on vehicles. Just look at how many vets put flags on their motorized noise-makers (H-D motorcycles).

I do agree that putting o'bummer's face on anything is in poor taste.

Much ado about nothing...yet again.

As if veterans are the only caretakers of our flag. And yes, the "code" is just etiquette like not putting your elbows on the table.

I personally don't think putting the President's picture on the flag and flying it is such a great idea, but the subsequent hullaballoo is NONSENSE.

Attention Moonbats!

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But who cares about the Vets and Congress we're talking Chairman Obama here! And after you salute your very own Chairman Obama flag invite all your moonbat friends over for a goosestep march down on the town green.

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It's not even a crime to burn the flag. Artists make many rendering of the flag--that's not a crime. Nor is this.

That pesky Freedom of Speech Amendment keeps getting in the way.

Doesn't bother me and I'm a Vet. Is is better that the war hawks wrap themselves in the flag while selling us another war?

"Cult of Personality" ? Really? What about Cult of God Country Army and Guns? Those are all alright I guess.

I think these flags were made in China to boot. Thats almost justification to start a war.

it is time to fire this dicktater.

Face it, the flag was about as tacky as one can get, we simply do not go for that kind of adulation in this country. Thinking you are doing Obama any favors by putting his picture on the flag is about as moronic as you can get. Methinks he doesn't need supporters like the gomers who did this and the ones who think it is OK. Nitwits like that drive away the independents he needs to win. Just like the far right zealots supporting their favored candidate drive away those same indpendents.

Hey as long as we can spit on it, piss on it, wipe our asses with it, stomp on it, and burn it like the left is allowed to do with any other American flag, I'm OK with it.

Someone is not clear on why they served in th military. It is suppose to be to protect the country and it's freedoms as stated in the US Constitution. It's free speech for all. Not just those you agree with. If someone can burn a real American flag. Or use a real American flag in some "art work" disrespectly then this to is ok. Someone can fly a fly that looks like a American flag. That what that flag is. A flag that looks like a American flag. It is not a American flag. It has always been easier to wrap yourself in the flag then to live up to the ideals it stands for. As far as a "cult" of personality. Look how Reagan has approached sainthood. He should have been impeached for breaking the law with Iran/Contra. It did more damage to the US than Clinton's fondness for head ever did.

1. How is this more disrespectful that the American Flag with the face of Jesus in the field of blue?
2. Is it more disrespectful that the the flag with the Tea Party America and a Tea Cup in the field of blue?
3. Is it more disrespectful that Kid Rock splitting the American Flag in the middle and wearing it like a poncho?

If you would not be up in arms about any of the three preceding examples, all of which have been around for 3 years or more, then maybe you should do a little introspection and evaluate why this particular flag got your goat.

pjam09

Putting the picture of a man who has treated the U.S. Constitution like dirt on the American Flag... proof that the thoughtless cult-like infatuation of simple-minded Democrats with the man knows no boundary.

As a veteran with over 20 years of service I agree that the President's likeness on the likeness of the American flag is inappropriate. That being said, the rest of your comment is completely idiotic. As to Democrats being simple minded; I give you the candidates for the Republican nomination. As to a President treating the U.S. Constitution like dirt...I give you George W. Bush...have a nice day.

Dumb idea! Who was the dumbazz who came up with this??! Absolutely brilliant...not!

I read most of the posts for this article. First some of you were blaming Pres. Obama. Who in their right mind who think that Pres. Obama would even think of approving this. This was probably some local politician who thought this up and obviously they were unaware of any laws or codes forbidding adding or changing our flag. But so many of you were ready to rip it down, when all you had to do was call or visit the office in a polite manner and bring it to the manager of that office's attention. We have to get out of this mob mentality. This hatred has got to stop, it's destroying us.

Eric in Oregon-you are a preverecator there were no congressmen with crosshairs on their faces, it was the maps of the districts. I guess that's a liberal trick to lie often enough so it becomes the truth(sic)

These patriots don't have a problem with a diaper with a true American flag on it. So it's OK for a baby to load up an American flag diaper and then just toss it into the dump. Now that is disrespect. Our flag has Stars and Stripes, so it's not an American flag until it has the Stars and Stripes we all know and love. Yes this was a bad idea that never should have come to fruition. As a Viet Nam Vet I don't see our Constitution as a cafeteria to pick and chose which parts I want to follow.

It is illegal to put a face on the flag.

Nope. Tacky, maybe, could even be considered in poor taste and disrespectful, but that's not illegal.

NO other president in America would have even let this happen. You people here who support this are fools and really have no idea of right and wrong. Obama has again disgraced the office of the presidency by letting this flag see the light of day AND not aclling on it to be taken down immediately.

It might surprise you to learn that Obama is not omniscient, there are things that happen that he is not aware of, and things he does not control. It is hardly the Presidents fault that someone tried to honor him in that way without his knowledge, nor that someone else would take offense. The whole kerfuffle was handled at the local level, and need not involve the President at all.

http://maggiesnotebook.blogspot.com/2009/06/get-your-tea-party-flag-must-have.html

Fox lowlife news will go to any length to put this President down. Most people that watch fox are uneducated or weak minded.

1) yes this flag does need to be burned respectfully because that is the only way to dispose of a desecrated American Flag.Suggest any Veterans post or boy/girl scout troop they know how to handle it. 2) this is more disrespectfull because it was done by people who are campaigning for the presidency of the US and are the current occupants of the White House and it was a violation of federal law.3 Fox is not the only people who reported this It has been on other sites for the last five days.

No. It isn't a "piece" of material. It is our flag and people are not free to put Obama, George Clooney or even a flying pig on it. It should be treated with respect.

To the people who fight and die for our country it is a lot more than "just a peace of cloth". The same is true for people who still believe in what this country is supposed to stand for. For someone like you I guess it is "just a peace of cloth" but that is the problem with people like you. It isn't the cloth it is what it stands for that matters.

Blatantly disrespectful is what it is.

To fly it under the flag as if it represented a Country. There is, lets just say a form of respect on flying flags on flag pols. President Obama represents the head of the Country represented by the flag which is flown on the flag pol, he is not a military unit or a Country and is not displayed on this honored piece of cloth which so many have given their lives to defend.

This flag is not just "a piece of material." It has changed along with the history of this great country; it has covered the coffins of those who gave their lives defending it; it is a symbol of unity of the American people. We do not want two Americas with each one having a different flag.

It's simple, anyone in this country reaping the benefit of what this country offers who doesn't want to pledge alliance to this country either needs to get out or be shot..their choice. I'm so tired of you panty waste liberals enjoying the freedoms that people have died for and then refusing to show respect for the symbol that represents the country. Seriously, enough is enough...you bunch of unpatriotic leaches. I'm sure you all think it's fine and dandy for people to burn our flag too. This idiot represents changing that flag to represent something the country never was, so to put his mug on it is like pouring gasoline on it and setting it a blaze. He's probably got one of these next to his Nobel peace prize and considers himself worthy of both.

Always a group of old, white, Republicans raising hell about something like this...they would be buying flags with Rush L, G. Beck, Bush, Cheney, Palin, etc. displayed this way. The reason I got out of the VFW and American Legion were Republican flat eathers.

It doesn't matter whose face is on our american flag. It was and is disrespectful of our country and the heros who fought for our country. It needed immediate attention to correct the wrong!!!

Can`t wait to see which of the 3 mouseketeers gets trounced by the O Nation in Nov.

Should be a hoot;-)

"Always a group of old, white, Republicans raising hell about something like this"

I'll bet they won't complain when the flag is being worn as a bikini on a hot blond. Even if the thong had arse sh!t on it.

Isn't it odd to anyone that we basically worship a piece of cloth?

It isn't the cloth it is what it stands for that matters.

If it is just a symbol of some ideology what does it matter what the symbol looks like if the ideology is constant? The symbol (flag) has changed over the years and everybody has accepted those changes but the ideology of a single nation has stood firm. Veterans have never fought for a flag but they have certainly fought over a flag.

Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely no desire to have obama's face on anything let alone some national symbol and I certainly don't want him to be the one to start that trend (presidential caricature on a national symbol).

Ido - your lies are showing. "What would one expect from a Democrat." Go up a thread where you point out you are a Democrat. Hmm....

It was not the US flag..... where are the stars???????? It was just a piece of material that is "red, white, and blue".

Al,

Still, I think it was in bad taste, but at least it was not Obama who put his image on the flag; just his supporters. I suppose bad taste is not a crime.

As a vet you are supposed to protect our rights to free speech and freedom of expression. Both are well intended here: they merely wanted to express their patriotism and love of the US president! If these particular vets found it distasteful, they could have just sent an email. Instead, they called and waited for a news crew? Why? It's an election year. How lame.

Mount Rushmore is entirly different. It is not a homage to 4 dictators in the USA though, they were mere town mayors who liked a chisel. And Lincoln is still celebrated as the inventor of the 5-dollar bill. How disrespectful from those "commie dictators".

Isn't it odd to anyone that we basically worship a piece of cloth?

Napoleon was amazed at what soldiers would do for a piece of coloured ribbon.

plnfxr - Ha! Old, white, Republicans, is that your story? I'm guessing you got out of the Legion and VFW about ten steps ahead of the tar and feathers once they figured out what your sorry a$$ was all about.

plnfxr-

The old white Republican remark is typical of an uninformed, racist liberal with their head firmly stuck in Farrakhan rear end. You're pathetic!

Throughout US history the Republicans have been the ones who have fought for, died for, and legislated for blacks. These are undeniable remarks and are documented time and time again. You and those like you have it so wrong and you keep spitting outright lies with dashings of racial BS.

Liberals developed and continually push for keeping the "black man" down by way of entitlements. The liberal mantra: "God no, we don't want to educate or provide training so that sect of our culture can contribute and build a life of their own. We want horrible education conditions and very easy to get welfare so that they will stay under the thumb of the government." But you and your ignorant party somehow keep convincing the ignorant liberal sheep that it's the other way around.

You are a liar, your party has mastered the art of lying and your race baiting has gotten really old and be careful because if you keep it up you're going to solidify baracks demise in November. Pathetic little liberal.

All you Toyota lovers must give our vets the fits. It sure didn't take long to forget what they did for us. You might as well put a Toyota on the flag.

demmie

Are you pro Toyota or anti Toyota? Are you saying that vets all drive Toyotas? Are you saying that it's good or bad to drive a Toyota? What the hell are you actually saying?

"All that Japanese junk is destroying our Country with their greed of unfair trade."

They are slowly, quietly tightening the noose around our neck by crippling our ability to produce for ourselves.

As a Vet I drive all Fords for over 50 years and never had any problems and at the same time I'm supporting my Country and proud of it.

Rightwingwac
Surely you don't think that vets all drive Toyota's. I said "all you Toyota lovers".
Don't be so naive. Remember Pearl Harbor, and thank all the vets who died for our country by buying a Toyota. Ok? That flag is the least of our worries. And don't bring up that our people build Toyota's when we are still thanking Japan for murdering our vets by buying their cars and helping their economy. Put an American flag on your Toyota and watch all the dirty looks you get.. Driving a Chevy and Ford is like waving the American flag to Japan. Driving a Toyota( even though they are good cars) is like thumbing your nose at a vet.

So if it is so terrible to own an American-made vehicle with a foreign name is it immoral to buy a foreign-made vehicle with an American name? GM, Ford, Dodge, etc are often made in Canada and Mexico also. Vets fought for freedoms which includes freedom to purchase whatever is legally allowed. When did they decide they were only fighting for the people who bought American made products. If such were the case, the U.S. economy would suck more than it already does. Try to find quality products made completely in the U.S.

If American workers made a worthwhile product I might consider buying one. But ever since the mid-70s it has been the culture of the big 3 to produce gas guzzling junk literally designed to fall apart.

the thinker-318752

Didn't you read what I said? I don't care where it's built, it's giving the Japanese a thumbs up, and our vet's a thumb's down. Go ahead and put your American flag on your Toyota, but don't go ranting about a Democrat headquarters in one city putting an American President on the flag, then.
You might as well just put a rising sun or a Toyota on it.

Japan may build and sell more cars, but who's fault is that? Who gave them business? I would think a vet would be more worried about that. They put up plants in the US and pay cheaper wages, so the American car companies can't compete, unless they speed up, lower wages, lower quality just for speed of assembly,and most likely export work,just to compete with Japan. I was there, but not in the auto industry. I had Japanese techniques jammed down my throat every week, till our wages and benefits took a big hit. Suppliers took a hit too. But not as much as we did.
Why don't we help with the Tsunami victims, instead of our own people.
Like I said, go ahead and spend money on a Toyota. The profits go to them not us. Look up the owners and find out why they call you the thinker.

Actually until the sixties the flag couldn't be used that way Barbara blame that on the Warren court. They declared it freedom of speech along with burning the flag. Many of us do not agree but we abide by the law. But the person who is chief executive officer of the country and his party should not violate federal law for advertising purposes

She is an idiot !

So if you think it is OK to put anything on the flag, Mike......how about a swastika, or a klan hat, or Limbaughs face? Do you get the point? That is why there is an agreed about decorum concerning the flag. If you don't get the point then you are also an idiot.

Give up 14 yrs of your life to the service of this Country under that Flag, and lose friends to combat, watch as vietnam vets pass on, proud that they defended that flag, and then ask how you would feel. That flag represents those who dis agree with my opinion right to disagree and also my right to defened it. the flag should not be disrespected in that manner by anyone.

obama is just an embarassment to this country. This incident demonstrates how ignorant obama supporters are.

I's been flying for almost 2 mths before anyone noticed. lol, someone is just looking to whine and bytch about Obama some more it seems like.

So what if his face is on the flag. Someone had it made, and any true American would know that it's not the official flag.

Get over it. there are Obama mugs, shirts, American flag in underwear, socks, bikini's, and more. stop whining America.

Obama 2012

LOL

Put Bush's face over the flag's blue field and watch the democrats react by tearing the flag down and burning it.

That would be their speed.

Just another bunch of brain-damaged right-wingers. They're hoping to get invited on to the Lush Bimbo show.

President Obama has made many past presidents seem insignificant. He has accomplished most of his promises and brought health care reform, a 70 year challenge, to America's citizens. You will be hard pressed to find one more willing to defend him than I.

If he solved the deficit tomorrow, created world peace the next day, and tripled everyone's income the following day...

His face should NOT appear on the flag. Obama can be enshrined or memorialized but save the flag for the respect it deserves.

I also believe that the confederate flag should be outlawed, they lost the war, they need to get over it.

To Stonedog34:

No it wouldn't. That's the diffrence between Dems. and Repubs. Dems. let others make there own decisions by allowing the rules of freedom to facillitate at the users RESPONSIBLE will. If Bush on the flag is their motivation, go for it! Repubs. tend to pervert and mis-interpret these freedoms by going to extremes by FORCING their opinions onto others by shaming them and chastising them into pariahs despised by the 'Good flag waving people" of America. Who, by the way, follow some of the most hypocritical ideologies for the sake of the extremist factions of the party that exist today.

Think pro-choice and pro-life. One, the latter, is restrictive allowing no relief in any given parameter while the proponents of this thought stand back and wash their hands of ANY RESPONSIBILITIES the subject will have to take on. All the while passing laws to strip any aid to said subject that could help her and her "ordeal". The former, however, allows the subject to do what ever their conscious can withstand with-in the RESPONSIBLE bounderies of the both morality and the law.

have seen people wave the confederate flag, Nazi flags, all types of bigotry flowing in the wind. I watched it and walked away. No one has said anything. There is a road in Sussex County supported by a National Socialist Party (Nazis). No uproar. Going out on a limb here...is it because there is a black man's face on the flag?

Some 800 pound guerilla in the room.

She's an idiot??!! The only thing to be outraged about here is the behavior of this particular group of vets. She should put her flag right back up. She has every right to express her patriotism and love of the US President in any way she sees fit!! It's what these vets were supposed to be fighting for. What a bunch of self-righteous A-holes!!

Fine, get Romney toilet paper, Gingrich or what ever floats your boat. But leave the flag alone. This is NOT a Conservative/Liberal, Democrat/Republican issue, folks. I know that most people under 40 or so have very little idea of the concept of patriotism because it has become increasingly popular to call our country names and apologize for it (which is probably why we tolerate having a President who does so on a regular basis) but no matter how wrong the people in the country are, our forefathers started this great country with an idea that hadn't really been used before. Call everybody equal and give everybody an equal chance. It had some bugs to work out, hasn't always worked right and always depends on how well the population at the moment is at bringing about the reality, but for many years it was acknowledged as the greatest country in the world and it is still the country that everyone wants to come to if they are oppressed. Our flag is the symbol of that ideal and if you are willing to desecrate it with ANYONE'S picture, you don't deserve to live here. MANY, many men and women died to make sure that flag kept flying, to keep alive the ideals and beliefs that our forefathers worked to bring about. We should never let anyone desecrate it, no matter what the law says. And if Obama isn't smart enough to see that, or doesn't care enough about the country that gave him (like many men before him) the honor of being their leader, then he doesn't deserve his office. If he is smart enough and cares enough, he should contact those people and tell him that he isn't Stalin or any other dictator and to get his photo off the American Flag.

It's funny how it's ALWAYS the democrats who bring up Obama's being black (he's not, he's mixed ethnicity). That is more telling than any tripe they type here on newsvine.

And I've got some news for you, there, "logicll".

I voted for Obama. And I did it because I didn't want to see another four or eight years of Bush's policies enforced by a republican, not because of the color of his skin. And yes, I suffer from extreme regret every single day, and eagerly anticipate the upcoming elections.

I don't want any presidents face on the flag, because they all do a piss poor job of representing me and my best interests.

Leave it to some hypocritical in the closet racist like YOU, "logicll", to try and make this about race, and not even get that right.

:D

Having the former President stand on an Aircraft carrier and say "Mission accomplished", when many more later died, was worse because he did it himself.

Bosslimo

You mean promises like Gitmo, behind the door transperancy, putting healthcare hearings on CSPAN, ending the two wars, getting us off oil and developing alternative energy (which is comical), Increasing clean coal production, keeping unemployment below 8% unless the trillion dollar "stimulus" is passed, allowing the bush tax cuts to expire because hey, tax breaks are bad right? How about sellout out his votes and increasing the death tax limit to 5 million per person? That doesn't help any rich 1% does it? A majority of his promises he hasn't kept...thank God! So you should disaprove of him because he broke most of his promises to you guys and I simply hate him because of most of the promises he made in the first place.

For all of those that think this wasn't Obama's idea, I wonder what you would say if you found out it was. Would your feelings on it be different?? Anyway you look at it, it is wrong for the Democrats to be in support of it period! (Which they ovbiously were)

Rightwingwac

So, you aren't in favor of the president's policies?

Then you can imagine how I felt under G.W. Bush's policies. I'd call that even :)

Now, back to the topic at hand...

Awwwwwww Stonedog34. Did you reallllllly vote for PRESIDENT Obama?? "Wink, wink" or do you fib a bit?

YOUR best interests are of the utmost importance to this country I guess.

For you Bible thumpers out there...read up on the part of idol worship. Golden calf or US Flag....hmmmmm....what a poser. But I digress..........

I respect the flag of the US but it is only a smybol of the greatness of this wonderful country. I have also the ultimate respect for the Vets. who fought and died for us. But like any unruly child...they need to be taken to task when they stray from civility.

I have a flag that was presented to my husband and myself at the funeral of a true Patriot. He fought in the Pacific against the Japanese. That flag is coveted and is well protected and stored. I am sure that old vet would be sickened at the hate and division in this country that he proudly served..

If you can't show a modicum of respect for the POTUS then how the hell can you worship a piece of cloth? They both represent the USA.

Just sayin...........

to the fab five

i do not think he had anything to do with his picture on the flag!!! and im sure im not the only one who thinks the way i do.what really kills me is how quick white people will be for him and in a flash they will drop him in numbers.dont you want to stand by a person during not just the good times but through the rough times to.i guess as blacks we can stand tall and proud of our president and to be there through thick and thin because we know how hard it is for some whites to stay loyal to a black man.there were many whites that voted for him in2008 and i hope that many of them will give him another 4 years to finish what he started. for them that did not vote for him the first time i hope and pray that maybe this time you will give him a chance and vote for him because none of us no matter what our race is can do this a lone we need for all people to come together and remember what he has done already.president obama has done a lot for this country even though it seems very slow to get credit for anything, but let something go wrong and right away people are ready to blame him for anything and every thing all depends on what side of the bed they got up on.if you really believe in him as the president of the untied states please ride it out with him and us the bad times wont last always and the sun will come up in the morning.you just have to believe. the president cant be in every state every city every town every village to over see all the things that is going on every day every hour every minute and every second.some of us in this great country have to stand up when we have done something and did it without thinking it through to see if it would bring harm to someone who has no idea what your about to or have done but their name is tagged to what you did.hate comes out to easily from some that say they have no hate or prejudice in their heart when really it was always there but it has come from underneath to the surface in a quick flash.i am not a prejudice person and i hope and try not to offend anyone but i have a request for white america,can you just for one day try to walk in the shoes of any american of color to see what we see,to feel what we feel and then to imagine if you werent white what would you do and what would you feel like everyday for the rest of your life? we of color we know who we are and we are ok because we live with the prejudice every day of our life and we know that its coming when we walk out of our door that somewhere someone will look at us as though we are nothing or cross the street or not to even look at us when passing us in the opposite direction on the sidewalk.everybody on this planet has the right to be seen as a person and if you choose not to speak sometimes a nod is ok or a quick smile just to acknowledge our presense in the world.sorry got off track but its from my heart.thank you

Joe Vegas you're right, it's not just about the flag. It's about this being another perfect example of the sheep in this country putting the messiah into a position that again, he has no business being in. Looking for an excuse huh? Like Rush calling some college chick a bad name? Would that be a good excuse to get the focus off of just what a horrible leader and socialist pig we have in charge? It goes both ways in this country so until I see a halo around every one of your liberal skulls don't even think your opposition is just going to roll over and play passive...like your president would love our country to do. Oh and yeah, we're making a point and I'd say you are on the massive minority of this one.

I think you should call Maxine Waters and have her tell all the Republicans to "go to hell" again. Considering she's so articulate and on the governments (our) dime and all.

I went to a Flag store about 11 years ago and saw a Flag on the wall with Reagan on it, It was no big deal. Just another way of making money.

The "Flag Code" spells out what a flag is, and also what a flag is not. The US flag has white stars on a blue field and without the stars it's not a US flag. Therefore all your self-righteous grandstanding is a stupid waste of time and energy. It's NOT a flag. If it had 11 stripes would you still be upset? Yes? How about 9? What if the stripes were red and pink? How about then? Try worrying about something important. Idiots!

Agreed Jonal. I myself am a republican, and putting ANYONE's image on the flag and then flying it above a political office like that is blatantly disrespectful. I'm not blaming Obama for this, I'm blaming the not-so-intelligent individuals that put this idea into motion.

As a vet you are supposed to protect our rights to free speech and freedom of expression. Both are well intended here: they merely wanted to express their patriotism and love of the US president! If these particular vets found it distasteful, they could have just sent an email. Instead, they called and waited for a news crew? Why? It's an election year. How lame.

The thing that really gets me is Obama REFUSES to salute the flag or put his hand over his heart for the National Anthem and the Dems think this is appropriate. The man has absolutly no respect for our nation, our nations flag, it's national anthem or it's people.

And where's your proof that Obama refuses to salute the flag or put his hand over his heart for the National Anthem??

I would have been nauseated if it had been Dubya's face instead of President Obama, so I kinda agree that the display is over the top. I can see how a veteran would be offended at such an alteration of the American flag, regardless of which party's leader is shown. I do, however, doubt very seriously that President Obama gave approval for the altered flag, and I doubt that such a fuss would have been made had it happened during a Bush or McCain campaign, or any other Republican for that matter. After all, these same Floridians are the ones who voted Rick Scott and Mark Rubio into office. How extreme is that?

Not saluting the flag is a bunch of BS. Just search youtube and you will find many o videos showing him being respectful and saluting the flag. These are the same people who still don't believe He cant be president. Just the other day I heard some "Patriot" claim its in the constitution that both his parents had to be born here also. No Where in the constitution does it say anything remotely like that.

I'm a left-leaning democrat who lives in President Obama's "hometown" of Chicago. I'm looking forward to voting for the President's re-election and believe that most of republican caucus in the House and Senate should be voted out.

That said, I think that flying any flag with the President's image is over the top and putting his image on a "modified" American flag is wholly inappropriate.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands....."

Our flag represents something that transcends politics, political parties and officeholders and while even mistreatment of our flag is a form of protected free speech, men and women of all races, creeds, colors, religions and political perspectives fought and died for the ideals that our Flag represents. Those persons running that political office should have exercised much greater discernment and sensitivity. If anything remotely resembling the American flag is flown, it should have all 50 stars in a field of Old Glory Blue and all 13 stripes - six white and seven Old Glory Red all in their proper proportions. I believe that President Obama would prefer the same. Having his face emblazoned on a modified American flag won't get him one single incremental vote but has the real possibility of totally turning off someone who is on the fence. Thus, flying such a flag is not only inappropriate, it is politically stupid.

Though I'm sure I would argue with them about many issues of the day, this middle-aged black man appreciates those old white men raising a ruckus over this. I agree with them on this issue.

Post a link to a picture of Obama saluting the flag....if u can find one.

@Bart Connor -- yes it is a piece of cloth, but it is, for better or worse, the symbol of the US. It's what is recognized around the world as meaning the United States of America. I'm as liberal as they come, but I agree with the vets on this one: the flag should have been taken down.

But I don't agree that it's disrespectful. Heck, the stars and stripes pattern that's the US flag is painted on fences that get torn down, made into jewelry and even underwear. My gripe is that no one person is the symbol of our country, and no one's face should be on the flag to imply that s/he is. And IMO whatever Democrat had that flag made is pretty stupid, if not arrogant.

It has nothing to do with being a vet. Half of the problems you encounter in everyday life is because people have no respect for anything or anyone.

"So what? It is just a cloth" becomes - I don't care about anyone's property so I'll steal it. I don't respect anyone so I will cut them off with my car. I will talk loudly on my phone and annoy everyone. I won't listen to my teachers because I have rights too!

Little by little civilization is being eroded by people saying "so what!"

These Vets that raised all this hell. In my life time witch is 56 years. I have never seen a war that was fought over this flag. Or to protect the USA. Every war after WWll was fought to protect the wealthy, and there assets. We had no business being in Viet Nam. We Dam sure had no business going into Iraq. Funny thing is the only ones that make out in a war is the rich people and oil company's. They get the President to go to war in Iraq to get the oil. They want Obama to go into Iran to take there oil. They say its to stop them from getting the Bomb, But we all know its for there oil. No one gave a dam about North Korea getting the Bomb, They have no oil. I am sick and tired of seeing our young under classed people getting sent off to war so the rich can get richer. And then when they come home all messed up, We get to pick up the tab for that too. Someone said in one of these posts that he is tired of Lib's taking all the freedoms that vets fought for. I say to him that the Rep's seem to start most wars, And its the Dem's that have to clean up the mess and get us out of the wars and take care of the wounded Men and women. If the Rep's had there way you would have been left behind, you did what they wanted you to do. You were always expendable to the Rep's and the Generals. And think of one thing. Very seldom do you see a rich kid in combat!

Jonal11, etc. Agreed - Red nor Blue - GOP not Dem. Our flag is our flag. Let's keep her that way. No disrespect meant nor taken.

@ Bart Conner - suffice it to say you simply don't get it. No need to explain - you don't and won't get it tho let me give it a simple try. That piece of cloth was painstakingly designed long before you and I were thoughts in the wind. That piece of cloth represents our history and our future. It is what we as a country are known by, carried into battle and enrobes our fallen warriors as they are brought back to our homeland. It is known for many things - free speech is but one - you and I exercise that right here and now. Piece of cloth you say? Look deeper - think further my friend. That simple piece of cloth represents every right you and I have as Americans.

No ugliness with comments - keep it simple. She is our flag.

If you are not outraged about this you should probably leave this country. I am outraged. I would be outraged at anybody's face on the flag. And please keep in mind that this was done by DEMOCRATIC leadership! And author from MSNBC... you have even further disrespected our Veterans by calling them vets.... The appropriate recognition of our Veterans is for it to be spelled out and captialized. But what should I expect from a scummy MSM outlet?

Thats not our flag, its a novelty item. Unfortunately it resembles our flag enough that its offending some sensitive folks.

Hopefully this'll get resolved and (reasonable) people will realize that those who created it were motivated by pride for our President, not disrespect for America.

Looks like the phony swift boat patriots are out again. Just because it is red, white, and blue does not make it an American flag. No more than wearing a flag pin on a lapel makes a patriot.

Veterans are outraged over a rag with a picture on it - but - remain silent about fellow veterans living on the streets. What self-righteous scum your are ...

This is NOT okay. This is disrespectful and wrong.

Hey! No fair pointing out duplicity!

Mike Davis-433554

As a vet you are supposed to protect our rights to free speech and freedom of expression.

Mike,

You show your ignorance in more than one way. "As a vet" he has already protected your "rights". But your rights are not given, they need to be earned, what have you done to deserve these "rights?".

"Just send an email." You sound like the typical over educated wimp. What is wrong with a face to to face meeting?

You like Hurlbert don't have a clue.

"If somebody had just called ahead of time, we could have avoided all of this," Hurlbert said"

Hulbert, if you had just checked before you desecrated the flag, you would of known. But I guess they don't teach things like that where the liberals go to school.

So many of these people are just a lost cause.

John-2032532

Post a link to a picture of Obama saluting the flag....if u can find one.

Can't post a link (by forum rules) so just google Pres. Obama saluting the flag and go to the soda head article. Here is a bit from the article:

"The rumor that President Barack Obama refuses, or doesn’t know how, to say the pledge of allegiance just won’t die. Since early in his presidential candidacy, we’ve been getting e-mails with photos that purport to show Obama failing to properly salute the flag during the pledge of allegiance or the national anthem. The photos have reliably been real, but taken out of context. The most recent example, for instance, included a genuine photo of Obama standing with hands folded while everyone else saluted or put their hands over their hearts — but that’s because "Hail to the Chief" was playing.

The e-mail accompanying the digitally altered picture oozes with phony outrage:"

Get your facts straight and stop spreading lies.

They have every right to display it.

The Vets have every right to ask them to NOT display it.

After discussing the the flag code, they all came to an agreement and it was taken down... what a great nation!

It is the right thing to do, but not REQUIRED, to respect the flag.

It is also the right thing to do, but not REQUIRED, to respect the President. Hopefully we can come to some agreement to do so. Maybe we can then stand behind his decisions instead of in front of them?

JCnGAM
Respect? It is President Obama, not "Obama." Also, your statement that the president doesn't respect, salute the flag, etc. is pure right-wing-nut-job garbage straight out of the SUX News/Franklin Graham, Donald Trump garbage truck. Get educated, then get a life.

I didn't vote for Obama. He's proven over an over he's not president of all americans, He is the leader of the free moochers and this too shall pass.

It would be nice if all the people protesting this insult to our flag would wear this so we can easily identify who we should rush out to comfort.

It isn't only the veterans who are angry!! Wake up people. Vote out all incumbants. If you voted for Obama in the last election it proves you are not a racist. So use your vote in this upcoming election to prove you are not an idiot.

John-2032532

JCnGAM
Respect? It is President Obama, not "Obama." Also, your statement that the president doesn't respect, salute the flag, etc. is pure right-wing-nut-job garbage straight out of the SUX News/Franklin Graham, Donald Trump garbage truck. Get educated, then get a life.

I didn't vote for Obama. He's proven over an over he's not president of all americans, He is the leader of the free moochers and this too shall pass.

This kind of ridiculous thought process is exactly what is hurting our political process in this country. It doesn't matter if you voted for him or not, he is the President of the United States. I didn't vote for President Bush, I detested most of what he stood for, but I still gave him the respect he deserved (and still do) as President. We are a democratic republic in this country, that means that sometimes the person you didn't vote for wins and you must accept them as your representative for the allotted time frame. You can disagree with them, you can protest their choices and do everything in your power to convince them to do otherwise, and you can vote them out of office the next time around. You do not, however, have the ability to simply refuse to accept them. The South lost the civil war, and with it the right to EVER question the right of dually elected Federal officials to make choices regarding the governance of this great nation, even when they disagree with it.

And get over the "free moochers" bs already, the fact that he wants to help those most in need is far from some sign that he wants to give people a free ride. I am so sick and tired of the hyperbole argument that all Dems simply want to give handouts and are somehow against hard work (or that all Repubs are racist war mongers for that matter). There are people looking for handouts in both parties, there are people who are hard workers simply wanting a fair shot in both parties, there are people who are looking to take advantage of the other two groups in both parties.

Actually take a moment to step back and form your own opinion instead of simply spewing facts you hear from others and you might begin to realize just how similar the two parties are, and that if we would simply stop fighting over minor ideological differences we might be able to accomplish something in DC again.

Respect? It is President Obama, not "Obama."

I'd only find it disrespectful if that was done in person to the President. If I'm not talking directly to the man, or in his presence, then I'll keep using last name only, just like I do with Bush, Clinton, etc...

The flag is a symbolic piece of cloth and this particular one is not our flag. Our flag is a symbol of our nation - it is not our nation. Compare this reaction to the reaction in Afghanistan to the treatment of the Koran by US soldiers. So the veterans, for whom I usually have the utmost respect, say they fought for the flag and not for rights, freedom and democracy? People want the flag to symbolize patriotism; well, patriotism means different things to different people. Veterans don't "own" the flag anymore than war protestors (something we had when there was a draft) "own" the flag.This is a free speech issue, period. And, most people who oppose flag burning, etc. have no idea what free speech actually means and how truly important it is to the survival of our country. The Supreme Court ruled that this type of free speech (speech that might be offensive to some) is protected by the First Amendment.

I hate the fact we let our politicians blow money on other countries instead of ours 8(

John-2032532

You wanted one picture, I'll do you one even better, oh non-believer - Midnight in Dover AF Base, in Dover , DL, President Obama was there to meet the 18 returning bodies of U.S. Military killed, while saluting the FLAG-draped casket of Army Sgt. Dale R. Griffin as it was walked passed the President (of which the picture was consented by his parents to be taken), and visited with the families of those who had fallen. Link that, precious.

I was referring to a flag, not a casket containing an American Hero covered with a flag. He salutes a soldier every time he exits Marine1 or Air Force 1. Nice try. Try again and this time try harder.

John-2032532 I was referring to a flag, not a casket containing an American Hero covered with a flag. He salutes a soldier every time he exits Marine1 or Air Force 1. Nice try. Try again and this time try harder.

I notice you have chosen to ignore my response wherein I provide you with an article directly disputing your claim and providing proof of it's inaccuracy (I know you prefer to ignore facts, but they are rather helpful).

NVArt,

Actually, as a non-veteran CIVILIAN, President Obama should not "salute", which is a military greeting of respect. He does place his hand over his heart for the Pledge of Allegiance and for the National Anthem, per the recommended civilian guidelines. And while he should acknowledge his military guard detail, he is not required to salute them. Ronald Reagan faced the same circumstances, and I don't recall seeing him saluting. And for veterans, saluting is optional. And I have known more than a few veterans who said they had had enough of saluting during their service, from both parties and liberal to arch-conservative.

Bill-2766329 The picture that was taken of Obama with his hands folded was taken during his campaign for president, before he was elected. Also, you don't put your hand over your heart for "Hail to the Chief" so I think it is you that needs to get your facts straight. When asked why he didn't put his hand over his heart during the playing of the national anthem Obama responded that he thought the song was too violent and did not agree with it.

NVArt, that is patently false and I would ask you to provide any proof of your statement. Pres. Obama, both as a candidate and as President, has held his hand over his heart for the national anthem on many occasions. Research what you say before you say it and you will sound much less ridiculous I promise.

Of course he should salute. He is the CIC and that fallen soldiers leader.

If he didn't salute you fools would squeal even louder.

And so has our capacity to react with such anger and passion to anything that the other side does. I agree that this is disrespectful to our flag, especially since not every last one of us in this country loves Obama or even likes him. But, of course, they just HAD to throw in a reference to communism, didn't they? They had to compare Obama to Mao or Stalin. I've seen flags with Reagan's (whom I deeply respect) face on it, and I doubt these very same people would have likened that to Mao's or Stalin's cult of personality.

Yes, it is time to stop the divisive imagery, but it's also time to stop the hyperbole. No, Obama is nowhere close to being a communist or a dictator or a threat to the American way of life. No, his policies do not qualify as socialist and he doesn't want to "radically" change the way anything works here. No, the democrats don't want to control our lives. And no, the GOP isn't all about racism, fundamentalism, or letting big corporations stomp all over the little man. It is this kind of divisive and demonizing talk that's gotten us where we are today, almost completely unable to work together politically.

marc - As any Dem will tell you: "Nope, it's bush's fault."

Dems only say it's Bush's fault when it actually is.

The only thing to be outraged by is the behavior of this particular group of vets. She should put her flag right back up. She has every right to express her patriotism and love of the US President in any way she sees fit!! It's what these vets were supposed to be fighting for. What a bunch of self-righteous A-holes!!

I'll be you are one of those people that use a flag pattern as an article of clothing, or a table cloth. Maybe you should read US flag statutes.

headhunter22, maybe WalMart should read the statutes. They're the one buying US flag t-shirts made in Pakistan and China! And then the red necks gobble them up like McDonald's without even checking the label.

It seems to me I saw a flag like that with Regan on it, and I also seem to remember one with John Wayne on it as well. Think these same guys had anything to say about that.

You can read thru these posts and see just how successful the campaigns of the 50s and 60s were. All the sleepers seeded into the colleges as professors succeeded. Their students have now grown up and continue to spread. The obvious goal was to totally undermine the American culture which has taken generations but seems to be pretty much complete.

I believe the article stated the Obama image flag was hanging BELOW a tradition U.S. flag.

This is a clear case of rednecks who happen to be veterans abusing their stature to garnish attention.

The very same people wouldn't have a problem if the same set up was with Reagan instead of Obama.

Actually, unless it has a blue field with anywhere from thirteen to fifty stars in it in the corner of a horizontal band of red and white stripes thirteen in all, its not a flag, but a banner.

Usually folks get their knickers in a bind over stuff like this to collect their 15 minutes of fame. If you need to show outrage why not a real issue. There are people starving in this country.

First thing, the "dims" in this chapter are idiots, we all get that. LEAVE THE FLAG ALONE,EVERYONE! but you people are using this as an excuse to bash a president with the bull crap banter rush limpbah and others of his ilk are paid to spew about him. they alter facts to make things fit into this neat little package then feed it to you conserves. one ive seen a ton of here is that he refuses to salute the flag. The one time he didnt salute he was still in a humbled position. not saluting, sure but im sure millions of "true americans" have done this absentmindedly in the past. i know because ive seen it, even in the older generations. are they any less patriotic? He was still standing and still singing along. People make absent minded mistakes, let it go.

secondly, he's a dictator? explain with facts please and stop just spewing crap youve been spoon fed by people with agendas.

headhunter,

Which statutes? The ones about disfiguring US coinage and currency? Try finding any LAWS regarding the flag.

I am no conservative by any means, but I found this distasteful. Respect the flag and the sensibilities of those who fought to defend it.

Should be noted that's a Florida state statute, not Federal.

You know I hear all this talk about Christian values and Christian beliefs, whatever happened to forgiveness. I agree his face should not be on the flag. I agree the people that did it should have known better, but really, with all the problems our country is facing this is what you guys want to fight about. I know God forbid. We have an African American in the White House. Get over it.

And don’t tell me that it is not the main reason most republicans are upset. It is a fact that while President Bush was in office the country was in trouble and the deficit was high. We had two wars and a prescription drug plan that were not paid for. These are facts. You can believe it or not, but facts don’t lie, and there was no tea party then. The only thing that had change when President Obama took over, as far as the state of the nation, was the color of the skin of the man in office. All of a sudden there was a tea party concerned about debt and deficit. Right…That is what you guys are concerned with. You want smaller government but not when it comes to things you believe should be watched like abortion or birth control. Really?? I say again. The only thing that had changed was the color of his skin.

I am a registered Independent and say that compromise is not a bad word. You don’t have to agree with everything the other side stands for, but there should be places where you can agree and the only reason you guys are not agreeing with him is all this “He is not even American” crap. He has a Kenyan father. Ooohhhhh scary. Are you all kidding me? You all complain about the state of our union, well I say you are all to blame. The government cannot run if both parties cannot compromise. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. Allow government to work. This is the only way our country will thrive.

If, you're an idiot if you think the main reason conservatives don't like Obama is because of his race. I mean a complete idiot.

H Stowell conservatives don't like Obama because of his race. Because he won the race to the white house, duh.

Freedom of speech trumps all idiotic statutes. It's not illegal to even burn the flag--the Supreme Court said that.

Artists create different renderings of the flag all the time--it's not illegal!

The US flag was not altered.... there were no stars on flag - so it's not a US flag - it's just a piece of cloth with red, white and blue.

If altering the flag is a such a crime, where were these veterans when George Bush autograpghed a flag in 2008??? http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagbush.htm

Where is their outrage at the 911 memorial flag which has the names listed in the stripes?

http://api.ning.com/files/O0rRt4kCpsp1TvgR5G5VHQ-IwinR0Lbr9EfZthgWuUo_/911flag.gif

No - their outrage is that a image of black man is on a piece of cloth.

And if anything "red, white and blue" is now considered the US flag - then get them damn ball caps off your head, get rid of the "Garth Brooks" red, white and blue shirts and ties - because your desecrating the flag.

Xaziol, Day late? MSNBC had a story on this yesterday and now a new one today? Dang. Don't worry. I won't call you a moron.

Once again the fools stickup for their dictator

Can you lemmings not see anything wrong with your great divider?

Gwaddamn! What hypocritical veterns! September of 2008 I saw several US flags adorned with the faces of both Senator Mccain and Sarah palin flying at car dealerships, several plants, and a truck stop near "Ocala" and "Clermont", Fl. Several around "Cobb" county Ga. and at least 2 in the "Greenville" SC area. The President though doesn't need this. Take the flags down and let these silly dolts go "hump" something else. Gwaddamn republicans! Got nothing better to do! Oh! yeah! In the town of "Washington", Ga. we ran upon a pack of the VFW selling 'em! Said the money they collected would go to support McCain and Palin. Yeah! they were selling bumper stickers and small car flags as well.

Funny how so many of these comments are identical, word for word. It amazes me how quickly people play the race card to explain the motives of others, which they apparently know nothing about. People like that must be prejudiced themselves, just the other way around. It would never even occur to me that race played a part in this. Although I did not wring my hands over it, I was quite taken aback to see Obama's picture in place of the stars on the flag. Reminded me of regimes run by tyrannical dictators. I would not want to see this pseudo American Flag anywhere. However, if Pres. Obama's picture was made into a flag which did not mock the American Flag, I would not object to seeing it in front of the Democratic Party HQ. Seems to me they should be proud to display the Stars and Stripes since their mission should be for the good of the country and not for the good of one man.

Everyone on this thread needs to read AL's post above.

Hypocrites.

If the shoe fits: You are chastising for not compromising but you had to play the race card by the end of the first paragraph. I'm sorry, but YOU are part of the problem. You don't label people the ugliest thing in the world just because they don't agree with Obama. People have had enough of that. If you really believe he has done an outstanding job, then you shouldn't concerned about people critiquing his performance. It's time that Obama be subjected to the same reviews as all President's receive.

I've been registered Democrat my entire life. I supported Hillary. It was when I saw how many people in MY party turned on her, called her filthy names, made fun of her daughter, etc, etc I then decided I will no longer work for or support the Democratic party. I will vote for who I feel is the best candidate. If that's a Democrat, ok; if not, I'll vote for the other side. Frankly, shoe, people like you are driving me further away. I thought we were the party of the people; I've been wrong for 40 years based on what I've seen in the last few years. Further, I think the President has made some snarky remarks that fuels the hatred by Dems and is dividing the country. You can "crucify" me for saying that, but it's my opinion.

Uhm, hmm..uhm uh.. I'm Barry Obama and I approve this likeness. But, let's be perfectly clear on one point. It's not my fault. (Is it my fault?) No, can't be. It's those white people in Florida. I inherited them. They were there when Bush left office. It will take time to make them go away.

Dirt-Bravo that was a well thought out post. Good job! I take my hat off to you for your clarity.

lee christina, sorry to say only a white person would say "It amazes me how quickly people play the race card to explain the motives of others, which they apparently know nothing about. People like that must be prejudiced themselves, just the other way around. It would never even occur to me that race played a part in this" because they have no REAL CLUE about how racism permeates soooo many things in America, even today, 2012....ONLY white people say that because their is a black POTUS that is proof of racism being gone in America....

Go to a professional makeup artist and disquise yourself as a black person..then start driving around MOST towns in the country and see what happens....EVEN in Liberal California, drive around and see how you get pulled over for DWB...Driving while black.....

I am the only white in my family, married into of course, and I HAVE SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES, YEAR AFTER YEAR.....

I have daughters, one took trip with her geology class through Nevada and Utah with her hair in braids, {or corn rows for you}, and she couldnt believe the negitivity, the stares she recieved in MANY cities...AND you wouldnt know she was mixed{unless you were black, then you would in most cases},,,In one store when she walked in, the entire store stopped what they were doing, just froze to look at her..And it wasnt because she is beautiful{she is}.....

I know you wont admit what Im saying is true, but it is, like it or not.....

I have MANY more stories, but I know Id be wasting my time with you and most like you

dirt------ It's time that Obama be subjected to the same reviews as all President's receive.

YES I AGREE, except from the very beginning it was about race, NOT about Obamas performance as a POTUS.....

You cant just start over and say it isnt about race, just to prove a point...TOO late for that..

MOST Cons/GOP teabaggers especially lost that right, to start over and criticize on merits alone...that ship has sailed

Dan, you are entitled to your opinion. For some, it may be about race but for the majority of the people they don't care if he's green with one cyclops eye! I'm SICK of the false charges of racism. As I said, I know about racism. If you knew me, my family, my ethnicity, you'd know I know it's there. But, to call somebody a racist just because they disagree with Obama is just as bad a night-rider with a torch.

As too what I see on here why don't we all just go home get our weapons and do this thing. Let the strong survive no matter who wins. Gotta love it and cherish the times when things were good. They have been bad for a long time and going to stay that way, it is the way of the rich and that is the way it will be.

Like it or not you poor arsed people with all your whining about the rich crack me up. Think you can take on the mighty and get by with it, plezzz. Why do you think Mr. Obama finally realized what's up and switched to our side huh. He knows the only side is the winning side period. You people have a lot too learn, if you want to get somewhere in this world you will comply with our wishes. If not; no problem we'll finish throwing you out of your homes and take away the jobs we supply to you.

Quit begging so much and just move with the flow and we'll throw you the table scraps we think you deserve. Come on now. I'm surprised you ever thought this was about patriotic values, it is not. It's about making people like me rich and others I know, so get off your patriotic butts and get to work. We are running a little in the deficit area and need some qualified slabors to help out, check your newspapers in a week or two and apply. Thanks for your patronage

Thank You!!

But it's cool to make a bandana out of one, right?

Just sayin'

"The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It
should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to
fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above,

the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a
speaker’s desk, draping in front of the platform, and for a decoration in general."

The United States Flag:
Federal Law Relating to Display
and Associated Questions
§ 8 (d)

I see your snarky comment and raise you a "nope".

Thanks for playing.

Exactly!Those 50 stars stand for 50 states & to replace them with Obama is sickening.Too many of my fellow Marines gave their lives for this nation NOT for this or any other President!

SEMPER FIDELIS!

Bravo historysaywhat! If an individual cannot respect what our flag represents, then they should refrain from displaying one at all. just sayin'.

like this?

The US flag was not altered.... there were no stars on flag - so it's not a US flag - it's just a piece of cloth with red, white and blue.

If altering the flag is a such a crime, where were these veterans when George Bush autograpghed a flag in 2008??? http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagbush.htm

Where is their outrage at the 911 memorial flag which has the names listed in the stripes?

http://api.ning.com/files/O0rRt4kCpsp1TvgR5G5VHQ-IwinR0Lbr9EfZthgWuUo_/911flag.gif

No - their outrage is that a image of black man is on a piece of cloth.

And if anything "red, white and blue" is now considered the US flag - then get them damn ball caps off your head, get rid of the "flag bandanna's and get rid of the "Garth Brooks" red, white and blue shirts and ties - because your desecrating the flag.