Larry Flynt is absolutely nuts!! His first sexual experience was with a chicken! Santorum definitely is right!

Maybe he should run for Pope...or dog catcher...no, Pope.

Nonsense, says Hustler publisher Larry Flynt. Absolutely no proof, says Steven Hirsch, founder and co-chairman of Los Angeles-based Vivid Entertainment, one of the largest makers of erotic movies.

Larry Flynt has never been a hypocrite about his magazines. As Hefner said "The girl next door", while doing plain porn, Flynt always called porn like it is:

"RELAX, IT'S JUST SEX"

I have always admired him for his honesty. I am sure that he is really going thorugh a tough time listening to that A****E Santorum, JUST LIKE THE REST OF US.

About BUTT-OUT, I really would prefer NOT to see Santorum's

What is it about Santorum followers that makes them so fascinated with animal sex?

Slow your role chief. Not all Republicans back this doufis or his beliefs. And I am a very conservative person, and personally there are bigger fish to fry than porn movies. We could and should start with deficit reduction, cutting foreign aid, and job creation. And I personally believe tax breaks should be cut for businesses - i.e. the foreign tax credits, which would force US Companies to bring those jobs back to the US. End the oil subsidies, and EVERYONE PAY A FAIR SHARE IN TAX. I also support TERM LIMITS ON ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS, thus doing away with Career Politicians. I am not the only republican that believes or feels this way, so be careful with that brush...

To be honest, I personally believe ALL POLITICAL PARTIES should be disbanded and we elect our officials based on WHO they are and not the PARTY they represent. And yes, I have voted for some Democrats over Republicans. The thing is, political parties do not represent the people of this country. It is the GUY or Gal sitting in that seat. And I for one don't want to hear a "party line" when this country is sitting in the PortaJohn. Let's get our act together and make that American Brand mean something.

Larry Flynt is absolutely nuts!! His first sexual experience was with a chicken! Santorum definitely is right!

By all means...Please POST A LINK to that...I would really like to see where you got that from...

w w w . independent.co.uk search this newspaper and you'll find the interview

Sanitorum's comments might be an indication of the type of porn he prefers.

Wow Santorum. How much more are you going to run your mouth and show the American people what an idiot you really are. Are you posturing for more of those radical christian terrorists for votes? You are pathetic. Give it up and go back to the world you came from

I can't post the link...msnbc won't let me...google "interview with larry flynt sex with chicken" find the article entitled " Larry Flynt: Freedom fighter, pornographer,monster?" The guy is absolutely flipping nuts! His own daughters say he's nuts!

Anyone see the cartoons "Chester the Molester" in Larry Flynt's magazine?? They're all about pedophiles!!

He extended our freedom by encouraging people to chuckle and masturbate over scenes of the most horrific unfreedom – women being gang-raped, young girls being molested, "bitches" being shaved and slaughtered in concentration camps. One of his daughters says he molested her. Another of his daughters reportedly says he asked her to marry him. The cold Puritan morality of the Fifties badly needed to be relaxed – but in Larry Flynt, did it melt down into a moral Chernobyl?
Quote interview of Larry Flynt

He lost his own virginity at the age of nine, to a chicken. He describes penetrating its egg sack, and how "when I let the chicken go, it started towards the main house, staggering, squawking and bleeding" – so he immediately killed it. Did you feel bad for the chicken? "What? No. It was a" – long breath, gasp – "chicken."

From the interview of Larry Flynt!!!

He [Santorum] also says that studies have shown porn causes brain changes in adults and children

Yes apparently it makes them smarter so that they don't vote Republican.

" the Republican presidential candidate's claims that porn is causing “a pandemic of harm” in America and contributing to violence against women.

With Santorum's outrageous ultra-right, conservative, christian, my way or the highway, ideas - he needs to take a good look around - only thing causing 'a pandemic of harm in America' and contributing to violence against women...are his ideas of what, how, why, where women should be.

For Kikee:

So you posted 5 or 6 posts about Larry Flint. This isn't about Flint it's about Santorum. Also you seem somewhat obsessed with Larry. Not a good sign.

Larry Flynt is the one brain damaged...this article is also about him. He was asked and quoted.

“I find it ironic that Republicans (like Santorum) are out there wanting less government and government intruding into our lives, but when it comes to moral issues they want government to legislate morality," says Hirsch. "It doesn’t work. It will never work.”

Just about says it all. GOP hypocrisy in 'full frontal' view.

high unemployment, enourmous nationational debt.

Spare me the porn talk.

Republicans seem to think placing all Americans in a chasity belt will solve our problems.

Lemme tell u this, politicians work on unemployment and the debt and stay the hell out of Americas sex life.

Kikee: Enough. Cork it please.

IRESPOND-2315268

Nonsense, says Hustler publisher Larry Flynt. Absolutely no proof, says Steven Hirsch, founder and co-chairman of Los Angeles-based Vivid Entertainment, one of the largest makers of erotic movies.

Larry Flynt has never been a hypocrite about his magazines. As Hefner said "The girl next door", while doing plain porn, Flynt always called porn like it is:

"RELAX, IT'S JUST SEX"

I have always admired him for his honesty. I am sure that he is really going thorugh a tough time listening to that A****E Santorum, JUST LIKE THE REST OF US.

About BUTT-OUT, I really would prefer NOT to see Santorum's Post 1.3.

That's difficult since these folks are nothing butt sphincter.

The 'Precious' Bible these people thump while ignoring the writings of rape, genocide, coercion, torture, and terminal inhumanity, of course, will be granted an exemption to laws as it always has been.

By their own words they demonstrate the lack of qualification to hold public office.

So Rick doesn't give a rats ass about Utah... Unless, he already figured that it will go to Mitt because of religion? Boy, you can't get more narrow in campaigning for specified demographics than that.

mike430

What is it about Santorum followers that makes them so fascinated with animal sex? Post 1.4

They've a putrid yearning to indulge in it and so project their perversions onto others and seek law injunctions which won't have any effect on their own lack of self-control.

I have recently come to think that many republicans react to their own agenda like porn. They have perverted American ideals and seem to get really excited about tearing down this country while they wave flags, bibles and apple pies. I think they get just as excited as some old sadist with a girl tied up in the basement when they attack women, the elderly and poor, gays, etc. If anything should be labeled obscene it is republicans themselves.

Where the hell do these politicians pull their priorities from? It can't be their own tight asses...

Here in Az, the Teabagers want to enable employers to fire any women who take Birth Control Pills ? This is true, you can not make this stuff up. I need my wife to work and do not need anymore kids!

Santorum just lost the male vote. And there is no way he will ever get the lib female vote. If the Republicans run Santorum it will be 65-35 Obama.

so keep your pants zipped up then and stop wanting the government to do everything for you.....geeeez

no brainer

Looks like they want their cake and eat it too! I will say this. Look at some of the countries that have a hard stance against porn and you will see countries who are very strict against women. So much so that women are second class citizens.

Santorum just sounds nuttier every time he opens his mouth. Is he secretly working for the Obama campaign? Seriously, with each passing day he does more damage to Republicans' chances of winning in November than Obama's campaign organization could possibly do.

Santorum probably has a bigger porn collection then I do... half of these people do, then they act all pias like there's no God watching them j@rk off to bestiality videos. Hypocrites all of them.

Just a few observations here...

1) @ Will the Watcher: What you said about yourself does not make you a Republicon. It makes you an Independent. I generally agree with most of what you've said, in terms of how you choose to cast your votes. I would say many of the same things about myself. I also tend to cast my votes for the most socially-responsible, and most likely to look out for the little-guy candidate. I suppose that makes me a Socialist, and frankly, I'd be proud to be called that, because it means that I believe that society has the moral and ethical responsibility to take care of its own, and not encourage predatory accumulation of wealth.

2) @ Kikee: Exactly what makes you the arbiter of what is right or wrong for anyone else? To be perfectly honest about it, you obviously mean well, but you simply don't have the ability to decide anything for me, or for anyone other than you. I am perfectly capable of deciding what I choose to do, and not to do, and do not, under any circumstances, divest myself of my rights by letting anyone else decide for me what is right or wrong. Especially someone who thinks they know better than me what is good for me or not. Thanks for playing.

3) @ Richard Small: You nailed it right on the head. What is it about the Republicons that they claim they want less Government involvement in American's lives, but they clearly go out of their way to impose their moral code on everyone else?

This whole thing is something I just do not understand. Everything these right-wing nut-jobs come out and say about morals, about women's rights, about same-sex marriage, about cutting taxes for the rich, about anything other than solving America's problems, seems to stem from this holier-than-thou complex they all have. If they want to do the things they claim they want to do, that shows an extreme disregard for the rights and lives of the Average American. How can they claim to love America, when they clearly don't like Americans? Do they even get it? And if they don't get it, how can they possibly expect us to want to let them govern us? Isn't it supposed to be the other way around? They serve to do our will, not be elected to do what they want.

"We will stay out of his church, and he will stay out of our bedrooms."

Since when has pornography been restricited to a person's bedroom? So Larry flynt feels his billion dollars empire is threatened? Whoop-d-fricken-do. Why would someone be worried about exposure to hardcore pornography? He's just worried about all the $$$ he thinks he's going to lose. Also, I'm not buying flynt's frivilous justification. Come on now! No studies on the damaging effects of porn? That sounds a little far fetched to me.

Gee, a poll by readers of msnbc on porn.

I wonder what the results would be? Predictable.

Does anyone SERIOUSLY think that 'hard-core porn' is innocuous?

I disagree across the board with almost everything Rick Santorum stands for. However, the US is the world's largest exporter and consumer of pornography. Think of the degradation, the abuse and the money earned by large unsavory criminal elements. The producers of course hide behind the First Amendment. How can we consider ourselves a nation of "family values" when we live with such hypocrisy?

ok peeps r still losing their homes, unemployment is still rampant, crime is still rising, illegals still taking over, and the A****** is worried about porn? He is so not getting my vote. Jeez......As for women being exploited, if they didnt wanna be in the magazines or the movies they wouldnt be.

Is Santorum ever going to say something that (1) isn't brutally stupid, and (2) actually deals with a real issue?

It's truly disturbing that this pinhead can't wrap his mind around any real issues. If he actually believes he's going to solve America's problems by making sure we're all having sex the way God wants us to, he's not just dimwitted; he needs serious help.

Put porn out of business and you put 100K IT professionals in the unemployment line and add to that a lot of hotel people. You may as what are some of the largest porn companies in America? The answer,: Comcast, TimeWarner, Holiday Inn, Best Western, Hyatt, Choice Hotels, Hilton, Radisson, Marriott, AT&T,Days Inn, Dish TV, DirecTV and just about every other TV and Hotel company.

Roy, you're a MSN reader and you're on this board around 24 hours a day. I think the poll, which is over 70% against censorship, reflects the publics feelings against allowing the government to decide what you watch, what you put in your body, and any infringement on personal freedoms. The right is so busy trying to legislate morality that they never pass any meaningful laws or make any progress. Enjoy Costa and make sure you get your money's worth at the bars in San Jose.

I think there should be limits on the ability of pornographers to show things like battering women as "sex". I do think that is harmful. "Rough sex" or worse should not be allowed. People should not be profiting on abusing women as literal sex objects. It sends the wrong message to men that it's acceptable and the wrong message to women that it should be tolerated.

And sex with animals is just not something we need to have around. If it's not legal to do it, it should be legal to sell magazines, videos, etc of someone doing it.

I don't care if you want to make dirty movies or skin books. But...really? We're going to argue that porn where women are chained up, smacked around, beaten or worse is something we want to be embracing as a society?

Google "Santorum"

I'll put away my porn when the right puts away their guns. They want to hide behind the second amendment, but not allow Larry to hide behind the first. Hypocrites!!!

larry flynt is really gross but i don't think the government should be involved with our sexual decisions. i just choose to not buy his porn, or any really and in that way im not contributing to it. the only way a company can exist is if people buy the products keeping the company running. if you don't approve, don't buy it. obviously some people are still buying the grotesque matrial but its not up to the govt, it is up to the people.so many of our rights are already trampled on everyday and the list is increasing. i also see the idea brought up by hirsch in the article that conservatives always want the govt to butt out, and then want the govt to control moral issues which to me is very hypocritical.

Years ago I had a dinner party with the guests fairly evenly divided between libs and conservs. I knew all of them very well. When one of the libs spoke up to say that Republicans always had porn movies in their closets, I cracked up. I knew for a fact the Repubs that were at the party did indeed have porn in their closets. In fact, GAY porn. LOL

I don't care if you want to make dirty movies or skin books. But...really? We're going to argue that porn where women are chained up, smacked around, beaten or worse is something we want to be embracing as a society?

As long as everyone involved is a consenting adult, who cares? I've never had an urge to go and hit women or rape them just because I rubbed one out to some bdsm porn. People like you need to stop worrying about what consenting adults are doing with each other and focus on things that actually matter, like our 9%+ unemployment rates and our skyrocketing jail populations.

Who cares what the disgusting pervert Flynt's says. "Butt Out". Oh I am so scared!!! He exploits stupid women. He is a major dirt bag and Santorum isn't. That should tell you everything you need to know. We need someone with morals leading our country. Someone who looks out for stupid women. Don't worry Santorum won't abolish contraceptives for the s---ts out there. That issue was settled decades ago...wake up folks.

I honestly used to be Republican, really, but I can't support them anymore. They just aren't who they used to be. They want to run my life for me. I make a decent living, so I'm not crazy about the Dems either. We need another party somewhere in the middle of the road.

We need someone with morals leading our country.

I'm actually inclined to agree. But using morality as a barometer the remaining Republican candidates would not be qualified.

azdad48

Santorum just sounds nuttier every time he opens his mouth....

The only thing nuttier is that he is winning at times, which means people actually voted for him. As George Carlin would say, is it really the politicians who are the problem, or is it we the people?

ItIsWhat!t!s

Since when has pornography been restricited to a person's bedroom?

HAHAHA!!!! Apparently since 1969!

In writing for the Court in the case of Stanley v. Georgia, 394 U.S. 557 (1969), Justice Thurgood Marshall wrote, "If the First Amendment means anything, it means that a State has no business telling a man, sitting in his own house, what books he may read or what films he may watch. However, it is not unconstitutional for the government to prevent the mailing or sale of obscene items, though they may be viewed only in private.

@wayne-303511 Actually, the fall of the Roman Empire sharply coincided with the Christianization of the emperors and citizenry of the empire. Since I suspect you're probably a born-again Christian of some sort, you might want to rethink your stance on the Roman Empire being run by "evil" people. Unless, of course, you think Christians are evil.

The facts are clear: once Rome became Christian, the Western Empire fell apart. That's irrefutable. The correlation does not, of course, prove causality. But still--it was run by Christians when it all fell apart. Enjoy that.

Got to be etc: Nice revisionist history there, where do you get it? Nevermind, reminds me of the girl who thought that France was a continent.

As to Flynt, he's a pig. Santorum is a religious fanatic pandering to a base which does not reflect the majority of people who don't vote a straight democrat ticket, contrary to popular misconceptions. It becomes rather tiresome to have to listen to extremists. On both sides of the aisle. It is equally tiresome to have the extremists act like theirs is the prevailing and only option allowed. Reminds me of the Goldilocks fairytale, too hot, too cold, too soft, too hard, etc. I am with the baby bear, generally the middle is where things are just right.

IT WASN'T THAT SIMPLE. By the time Christianity arrived, Rome had also: 1. Lost territory and revenues to the barbarians, who they had previously embraced and used for tax collectors. 2. Decay. Going back to the crisis of the Republic, which meant men were no longer trained right and the invincible Roman army was no longer. 3. Inflation (Big Time). 4. Presence of lead in the drinking water contributed to heavy metal poisoning. Definitely: Causes of the fall of Rome include economic decay through hoarding of bullion, barbarian looting of the treasury, and trade deficit.

As long as everyone involved is a consenting adult, who cares? I've never had an urge to go and hit women or rape them just because I rubbed one out to some bdsm porn. People like you need to stop worrying about what consenting adults are doing with each other and focus on things that actually matter, like our 9%+ unemployment rates and our skyrocketing jail populations.

That's EXACTLY the wrong attitude. Violence against women should be repudiated whenever encountered...ESPECIALLY when it is depicted women as sexual objects for violent men to abuse and violate. It sends the WRONG MESSAGE that we, collectively as a society, will say that domestic violence is a crime worthy of imprisonment unless, of course, it turns you on. That's just the wrong message. Violence against women should be repudiated whenever and wherever found...that you can jerk it to it says more about than your psyche than just your approval of it.

wayne-3043511

The Roman Empire fell after it became Christian led.

Flounder2760,

I'm surprised you can even shoot with that gigantic chip on your shoulder. Let me know the next time a gay person comes to you or your family and tries to convince ANYONE to live a gay lifestyle.

That's what is so insane about those who think like you, nobody can convince someone to become gay, it doesn't work that way. You are or you aren't.

As far as your kids continuing the family name, I myself would not wish to be associated with your narrow, scared, homophobic personality. Your choice of words isn't too cool, either.

Gay people can no more convert a heterosexual to the gay lifestyle than straight people can convince homosexuals to become straight. I think most homosexuals have better things to do than run around and try to recruit you and your family (especially kids, that's a whole different thing, they are not pedophiles!) to become gay.

I find it ironic that Republicans (like Santorum) are out there wanting less government and government intruding into our lives, but when it comes to moral issues they want government to legislate morality," says Hirsch. "It doesn’t work. It will never work

Exactly right. Thus lies the contridiction of the GOP party in general. I know a few educated conservatives who after years of voting simply want nothing to do with the party. There's financial conservitives, then there's complete nut-jobs who want people like Santorum to run the country.

I only predict less and less support for the GOP party in the future. Don't get me wrong, there will always be financial conservatives, and they make decent arguements of how the economy should be run. But the GOP with it's moral contridictions just looks more and more silly as time goes on. I predict the rise of a new conservative party.

I think if A hole Santorum is gonna talk morality he should begin by looking in the mirror. This jackass takes hypocrisy to a new level and thats a tough thing to accomplish from a politician being they keep setting the bar higher evry day

Will the Watcher - Good to know that there are republicans like you out there. I hope there are enough of you that you can take your party back from the hands of certified nuts that seem to be in charge of it now a days.

Here we go again, selective moralism from ROY and DB.. Its OK to send kids to their death over in some Desert but but porn is bad and immoral.

Its funny but you do realize this why the Pilgrims migrated to America? They were not persecuted for their religion, they were kicked out of the Countries for practicing a Fanatical Religion, IE Selective Moralism. Its OK to slaughter Natives but speak of sex and hang...

disagree across the board with almost everything Rick Santorum stands for. However, the US is the world's largest exporter and consumer of pornography. Think of the degradation, the abuse and the money earned by large unsavory criminal elements. The producers of course hide behind the First Amendment. How can we consider ourselves a nation of "family values" when we live with such hypocrisy?

First of all, PORN is a LEGAL industry, and NO, we do not have the lead on porn. Actually, Asian countries do have the lead on porn. Guess who watches more porn than anybody else in the whole world? The countries where porn IS PROHIBITED.

The people from Denmark, for instance, are very bad consumers of porn, because throughout history they have been a very open country, that accepts sexuality as part of being human. We are 7 billion people on the planet, and not everybody was conceived by a miracle, without having sex.

Only the Republicans fly with the stupid argument of FAMILY VALUES. I guess Santorum only had sex 8 times in his whole life, since he only has 8 children.

Does anyone SERIOUSLY think that 'hard-core porn' is innocuous?

That is a good question. I honestly do not know. My guess is that the simple viewing of sexual acts between consenting adults do not harm anybody, do not turn harmless individuals into rapists or serial killers, or cause normal people to become child molesters.

If one is talking of child-pornography, or films which depict sexual violence against women, it would not surprise me if these films were found to have a unmeasurable, but very real, harmful impact on society. But there are already laws on the books against at least child pornography, and reading and listening to the news in my home state, it is clear that the authorities are not shy about enforcing these statutes.

A better question would be how will Santorum's laser-like focus on an issue which is not on most voter's minds help him win the nomination, or the upcoming general election?

One gets the sense with Santorum, that in making these statements he is actually revealing his true feelings on the subject, whereas, with Romney and Gingrich, one suspects that their more radically conservative views is simply pandering to the Tea Party wing of the Republican Party.

I wonder, what the voters will make of the resulting GOP candidate in November. Of course, whomever is nominated, he'll have had several months to reposition himself as a mainstream politician, and voters have notoriously short memories.

In the end, it will all come down to peoples' view on the economy, and whomever wins, ten years from now the pornography industry will still be booming.

Obama looks like the best President in US history next to this moronic wanna be pope Santorum.

Concentrate on regulating corrupt politics, corporations, banking, wall street, war for profit, etc. will get us further than regulating porn. Nothing wrong with naked bodies. Born naked, die naked. Nothing wrong with the way nature created us. Hypocrite.

It is just DISTURBING to read these comments where people prefer to support some filthy scum, slime, mysognist, pig, smut peddler like Larry Flynt, who I wouldn't touch with a 10ft pole. What the HE LL is wrong with this country that we've come to THIS??!! All the yapping about "staying out of women's vaginas", and this guy has them spread eagle for all the world to see. With any luck guys and gals, maybe YOUR daughter can be a star and share her crotch on his pages and on videos one day. If youu'r really luck, she'll get her own web site. Mr. Oink tells Santorum to "butt out" when he only wants to clean up the garbage, have women respected as persons, not being depicted as rutting barnyard animals for "gentlemen's" entertainment, and you all jump on the Flynt manure train, cuz you prefer to keep 'em on their backs and performing. Just WHO is waging a "war on women"? Jus how MUCH lower can you sink while calling yourselves "progressive"????

Aggie - If a woman wants to spread her legs and show her vagina to the world that is her choice. More than Larry Flynt, i fear people like you who want to legislate morality and heap your moral values upon me.

What's really damaging here? Was it a porn-crazed psycho that shot Larry Flynt and crippled him for life? No.. I have a very strong suspicion it was some bible-thumping wing-nut, motivated by some chest-beating religion-exploiting politician like Sphinctorum, that gunned him down.

It is just DISTURBING to read these comments where people prefer to support some filthy scum, slime, mysognist, pig, smut peddler like Larry Flynt,

WOW! I thought you were talking about RUSH LIMBAUGH, until you got to the part Larry Flint...

Larry FLinth NEVER lies about his business. It's a free country. You do not have to like him, and he DOES NOT call women SLUTS...

What a SURPRISE!

Ah Rick, in your attempt to further solidify your appeal to the evangelicals, you have just given your campaign the proverbial kiss of death. This will become evident even to you during the primaries in the more moderate states.

I can't see why Dick would inject his opinion.

It's amazing to me that the Republicans would support this war on pornography because it's "harmful to women" while at the same time they're on a campaign to restrict women from obtaining health care which involves the use of contraceptives. How is that not "harmful to women?"

That's EXACTLY the wrong attitude. Violence against women should be repudiated whenever encountered...ESPECIALLY when it is depicted women as sexual objects for violent men to abuse and violate. It sends the WRONG MESSAGE that we, collectively as a society, will say that domestic violence is a crime worthy of imprisonment unless, of course, it turns you on. That's just the wrong message. Violence against women should be repudiated whenever and wherever found...that you can jerk it to it says more about than your psyche than just your approval of it.

I think you missed the key part about consenting adults there, champ. If you're worried about the kind of message it's sending, maybe you should quit being so terrified about talking to your brats about sex instead of demanding that the entertainment industry do it for you.

MOM OF FIVE-3057030 SAID

so keep your pants zipped up then and stop wanting the government to do everything for you.....geeeez

no brainer

I guess your ability to keep your pants zipped up is why you have 5 kids, And I am sure you time it carefully so you only needed to have sex (no foreplay or pleasure to be derived) 5 times to accomplish this?

so - kikee -? I have to assume that you're a normal, sexually repressed RETHUG as near as I can tell - unless it's as a KICKEE (slightly different spelling) and someone else is the KICKER...but that analysis might also fit...

and just so you know - the guy who drew the Chester cartoon DIED in 2000, so your information is a bit "dated"

ROFLMAO!!

oh, and the "chicken" I would have associated with Flynt would have been the one he was CHOKING.

union thievery - santorum is NOT A SCUMBAG?? That FUC KING IDIOT IS THE WORST "candidate" I have ever seen. Tits on a boar hog are more valuable

To quote Rick "Chicken Little" Santorum: "The sky is falling, the world will end on December 21, 2012, Vaginas are everyones business, especially the GOT/TP, end Social Security and Medicare, lets all go back to the Dark Ages, because afterall we cannot reason or accept reality, finally please vote for me I'm a totally unreasonable person and will ignite all your 'hidden' fears". Rick has gone now, after he warned us that the sky is falling for the Begillionth time!

I like reading all the people who are complaining that Larry Flynt is a douche. Perhaps, but using that to support banning porn is a logical fallacy usually referred to as attacking the speaker. Just because Larry Flynt is a douche doesn't have any effect on the validity of his claims. It's like saying that something is bad because Hitler supported it; Hitler was an Imperial Douche, but that doesn't mean that anything he supported is automatically evil. How many people reading this like drapes? The kind that cover windows? Well, Hitler liked drapes, so you all must be evil like Hitler... See how stupid that sounds? So, I agree that Larry Flynt is a douche, but that doesn't mean that hardcore porn needs to be outlawed.

Not trying to single out someone, but here is a comment "How can we consider ourselves a nation of "family values" when we live with such hypocrisy?" that typifies the core of the problem...

I don't believe at any time do the Progressives, the Liberals, the Democrats, the Liberatrians, the Socialists, and the Communists in America consider ourselves a NATION OF FAMILY VALUES. I consider myself to have values and principles. Yet I would never put our nation as a nation of "family values." We are near 50% divorce rate. Our children are one of the worst amongst the higher standard of living countries in the World. Our poverty rate is also one the worst amongst the worst. Our healthcare is the toilet when compared to many of the higher developed countries....

No, I would never judge others based upon my personal value. HOWEVER, THIS HAS NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM WITH THE REPUBLICANS USING THE "FAMILY VALUE" SLOGAN.... Newt? preaching to my children about family value? and he is still in the Presidential race, propped up by Corporate donors...

WHO IS FOOLING WHO?

LOL, Outlaw porn will have the same effect as when we outlawed alcohol... It will increase criminal activities and trafficking. The human urges will still be there, but now they will simply move underground, promoting blackmarket. It will most likely grow the industry...

So instead of transparency, the Republican will officially move the criminal activies underground. The vicitims will then be forced to be silenced.... Something that Republicans seem to relish.

Just because someone has done something unspeakably disgusting and cruel doesn't mean that every word which comes out of their mouth is wrong. If that chicken thing is true (I just don't have the heart to follow the link, to be honest), that is terrible. But that doesn't mean I disagree with him in this case. It's not healthy to view the world in black and white.

These "faith-based" Facists are obsessed with sex -

"He (Santorum) also says that studies have shown porn causes brain changes in adults and children, and that every family should be concerned about its harmful effects."

I Know the rejoinder is too easy so I'll skip the obvious and move on to this faith-based obsession with porn where does it come from?These people are not normal the abnormal is the new normal so it seems. Small government? Really now? What more have you to say?

Good Luck with "The Family Council" running your lives...Ahahaha ah so funny............

sickee kickee, looks to me like YOU are the one with the chicken fetish! I hope you are posting from an institution and are not wandering loose in public.

I am confused... since when is porn only between men and women? And since when is it only the women who are chained up and beaten? Cause I have to tell you there is plenty of Gay porn out there and I have a rather large collection of D/s porn where the women are the Doms... so those of you posting about women being violatedare not viewing the whole subject...

If it is between consenting adults (note that word) then leave it the hell
alone... do you really think the person being tied up in those films did not
consent to being tied up? What fantasy world are you people living in? and just because I read the book with the D/s doesn’t mean I live them…

I prefer Japanese porn myself...the sh!t they do and get away with Hustler and Vivid wouldn't touch....love it....long live porn!

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"If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."

Yes he is MISSIONARY position. Gotcha.

As a Republican, it ashames me to no end to have these evangelical neoconservative lunatics making a mockery of the Republican party year after year. Ron Paul is concerned with the real issues, not this sideline nonsense. It's a real shame that the establishment will take whatever underhanded steps necessarry to keep his message repressed.

Im conservative and about small government how is this small government? Maybe next crack down on movie violence hmmm maybe we should just get rid of television? Ban dancing? Make going to church mandatory?

fock the conservative prick! Who cares what the moral fatigued Santorum thinks. Little twit of a human being.

DunkinH

You are right. It is sad the direction the Party has gone. It seems that those that run the parties are 10% far right whack-jobs, 10% far left give everything to the people, and 80% of us in the middle that simply want representation like it was supposed to be.

Hopefully, the 80% free-thinking will, one way or another, do the right thing, instead of what they are told to do.

http://www.americanselect.org/

What the hell is wrong with these GOP idiots?????? We need jobs, we need to restore sanity and fairness to the taxation system, and we need to work hard rebuilding the economy so America can compete in the 21^st century. Well those are the things we need but these fools want to dismantle Social Security and Medicare, the want to peek into everybody’s bedroom, monitor every pregnant woman in the country, outlaw contraceptives and now Pope Ricky wants to “Enforce obscenity laws”???? I don’t even know what that’s about.

They want to deny women the right to make their own health decisions. They want to take away our basic civil right to privacy and worst of all they want to pass repressive religious based laws that are clearly at odds with the constitution. It sounds to me like their modeling the new Republican platform after Iran’s theocracy. The Republican Party is truly out of touch with reality. It would be funny or even pathetic if it wasn’t so damned scary.

Why are Republicans so opposed to freedom?

I would like to impart a little logic into the discussion, not that that will get me very far.

If you don't agree with porn, don't watch it. If you don't want your kids to see it, parent.

Women's health is health. The Congressional panel, if has to be done at all, should be made up of doctors, both male and female for perspective, not by bureaucrats and religious leaders stating what should be perceived as moral. Get that .....Doctors.

And BigAl The President has removed more rights than Bush with the Patriot Act. Whether I should be mandated to pay insurance to a private company. To be viewed by the SCOTUS shortly. Indefinite detention of Americans. Lawsuits filed, only a matter of time before the SCOTUS. Impeachment filed in Congress for going to war without Congressional approval. And a new one, I believe it is HR 347, that now makes it a felony to protest anywhere the secret service sees fit, even though you may not know it was illegal.

He also is refusing to allow South Korea to return a million rifles we gave them at the end of the war. Collectors items. And why would that be? With all the rights they have undermined, they sure as hell wouldn't want us armed.

Free will, free choice, freedom of the press, freedom of speech, freedom from the tyranny of the majority, freedom of religion; anything else do you oppose?

Passed this article 20 times and it still looks like it says "Porn industry to kick Santorums butt." Odd.

Atp917

The majority of Americans haven't made policy in this country for some time. The 10% far right choses their side. The 10% far left chooses their side. The other 80% are simply stuck with a lack of options and follow like lemmings.

Asking porn industry leaders if porn is harmful for women is like asking the heads of tobacco companies if their product is harmful. Come on, now...let's put some effort into this article and do some real research, guys!

Rick Santorum wants all American women barefoot, uneducated and pregnant. The only country he's qualified to be President of is Afghanistan.

Unhappy:

Pornography is a male dominated field, and let's face it, most of those who support it are democrats.

Only because they can't afford the Republican's fancy prostitutes.

@ Iago Steele

ZING!

Unhappy this is a constitutional issue and Santorum likes to pick and choose what he wants to follow. Its a slippery slope you are going down because there has been more violence related to religion than any other reason in history. If you want to make that argument, the bible should be banned.

LMAO! Funny that the Republicans want to do away with porn when THEY'RE the largest consumer of it!!!

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Fido2k

And secondly most of our founding fathers who wrote the constitution were Christians and based most of the constitutions ideas off the Bible.

NONE of the founding fathers were Christians. In fact, most of them HATED Christianity. Also. the Constitution specifically forbids the Bible from having any effect on our civil laws (see the 1st amendment).

James Madison -

“During almost 15 centuries has the establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been it’s fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.”

Thomas Jefferson -

“Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.” (letter to his nephew Peter Carr, August 10, 1787)

I think it is kind of funny when the founding fathers and religion comes up. As far as I have read they were Deists and Christians. The thing of it is, is that there is a distinction between "faith" and "church". They had faith that determined how they dealt with things, but they didn't rely on the church to tell them what was what.

I don't believe in going after the Porn industry but I would like to see better protection for children. I remember coming home one day to find out my 8 year old girl saw some girl on girl action while searching for some doll -- Lonely hearts doll club or something like that. It seems like search engines have gotten better since then and of course I am more stringent about the family safety controls.

Its hard to explain to an 8 year old what that is all about. Their are worse things though like trying to explain why the GOP tries to market itself as the party of freedom but then is anti women, gays, immigrants and jobs. They want us to sit at home all night and knit I guess while they are having kinky escapades in bathrooms.

@Jim: Let's take a look at what else Jeffserson, Madison and Adams had to say;

John Adams

Belief - Unitarian

"The Christian religion is above all the Religions that ever prevailed or existed in ancient or modern times, the religion of Wisdom, Virtue, Equity, and Humanity. Let the Blackguard Paine say what he will; it is Resignation to God, it is Goodness itself to Man."
July 26, 1796, in his diary.

"I have examined all religions, as well as my narrow sphere, my straightened means, and my busy life, would allow; and the result is that the Bible is the best Book in the world. It contains more philosophy than all the libraries I have seen."
December 25, 1813 in a letter to Thomas Jefferson.

"The Ten Commandments and the Sermon on the Mount contain my religion..." November 4, 1816 in a letter to Thomas Jefferson.

Thomas Jefferson

Belief - Episcopalian

"My views...are the result of a life of inquiry and reflection, and very different from the anti-christian system imputed to me by those who know nothing of my opinions. To the corruptions of Christianity I am, indeed, opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian in the only sense in which he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines in preference to all others..." April 21, 1803 in a letter to Dr. Benjamin.

James Madison

Belief - Episcopalian

"Religion is the basis and Foundation of
Government." June 20, 1785

"It is not the talking but the walking and working person that is the true Christian." In a manuscript on the Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles, Madison makes this statement.

"We have all been encouraged to feel in the guardianship and guidance of that Almighty Being, whose power regulates the destiny of nations." March 4, 1809 Inaugural Address

“We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We’ve staked the future of all our political institutions upon our capacity…to sustain ourselves according to
the Ten Commandments of God.” [1778 to the General Assembly of the State of Virginia]

Perhaps you can point out the "hatred of christianity" contained in these quotes.

Well I have to agree with porn not being harmful to anyone. I'm living proof of that. I can still see and I just started wearing reading glasses when I was 54 yrs. old. I have always been told I'd go blind but I never did, but I do like carrots too. If that counters the going blind logic, I don't know? Then as far as porn goes, I actually learned a few good moves from watching it. Most women compliment me, so I say porn has its place. I don't know why repubes are so against it, maybe Santorum should watch some. I don't see him as an allstar in the bedroom, matter of fact, I bet he wears his socks to bed.

I find it ironic that Republicans (like Santorum) are out there wanting less government and government intruding into our lives, but when it comes to moral issues they want government to legislate morality," says Hirsch. "It doesn’t work. It will never work

Exactly right. Thus lies the contridiction of the GOP party in general. I know a few educated conservatives who after years of voting simply want nothing to do with the party. There's financial conservitives, then there's complete nut-jobs who want people like Santorum to run the country.

I only predict less and less support for the GOP party in the future. Don't get me wrong, there will always be financial conservatives, and they make decent arguements of how the economy should be run. But the GOP with it's moral contridictions just looks more and more silly as time goes on. I predict the rise of a new conservative party.

Jim-3113262

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Fido2k

And secondly most of our founding fathers who wrote the constitution were Christians and based most of the constitutions ideas off the Bible.

NONE of the founding fathers were Christians. In fact, most of them HATED Christianity. Also. the Constitution specifically forbids the Bible from having any effect on our civil laws (see the 1st amendment).

Jim its really sad that people like you come on here and spew this type of stuff. This is years of non sense that people have been saying on here. Few at first, and then other people believe it with out ever looking to real history and what founding fathers believed as a WHOLE and not just a sentence or two ripped from context. Not to mention our history as a nation and how we left England, because of the government trying to declare a state religion, and what a history it was going from Catholic to protestant , to catholic, back to protestant , those who left and came here would be known as the puritans, which if you read about all of this you will know why. Also how the states were already starting to say which state will have what religion, and hence our constitution is made to stop the government/ State from making a one religion for everyone to have. Instead we have the freedom from that. Which is why we got out of England.

There is a lot more the the story of how England under henry the 8th changed its religion, and after he passed what happened next. Read about it and become knowledged, stop spreading this disease of mis knowledge on here im so sick of seeing people trying to twist and turn things into something they are not.

As for the article above, people can look up the statistics of how porn has negatively affected society. Its incredible what it can do , mainly is destroying families. And before you scoff, you might be one of the few who it has not affected, but im talking statistically the majority.

Kenn,

Great quotes, but the ones from Jefferson and Madison reflect radically different perspectives on Christianity than those that are followed by the majority today. "A life of inquiry and reflection"..."It is not the talking but the walking and working person that is the true Christian." "To the corruptions of Christianity I am, indeed, opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself."

These few in particular seem to run so far away from the ideals and words of Santorum and his ilk. Jefferson and Madison seemed to understand Christianity as a way of living, and kept it separate from politics enough to keep intact the power that comes from the "faith" one has in it. Santorum, on the other hand, like so many of this time, view Christianity as a political tool, thereby often contradicting the Constitution they hold so dear, and minimalizing the concept of "faith" the most essential component of religious belief. When you force your faith on others, you diminish the power of the thing you have faith in. The Founding Fathers were able to remain steadfast in their own faiths while simultaneously respecting the faiths and/or freedoms of others (relatively speaking of course...you know, the whole slaveholder thing).

Ooooohhhhhhh. I felt a little tingle after MSN asked me this question below, and I had to hit the SUBMIT button.

"Do we need tougher enforcement of laws regulating hardcore porn?"

My problem is The Republicans say porn is destroying families, and then it's gays destroying families. Exactly how many included in our 50% divorce rate cite porn or homosexuality as the reasons why they divorced? I'd really like to know.

The question is, why does Santorum get to regulate what he PERCEIVES to be the biggest threats to family? Middle class families are struggling and I am sure economic tensions have led to many divorces /instances of abuse in the past five years, yet when it comes to regulating financial institutions and businesses which have directly caused this depression in the middle class, nothing can be done because that would be interfering with the perfect free-market.

Yet, when it comes to porn, that free-market cannot exist. Nevermind that the parents, teachers, politicians, and clergy who view porn of their own free-will are consuming said product under the exact tenets of what it means to be a free-market consumer, I don't like it, so you can't have it. Hypocrisy once again. As Metallica once so eloquently belted, "Freedom! With their exceptions!"

It has to be looked at as a case by case situation. Do I watch porn, no. Would I, no. Would I stop someone else from watching, no. Would I condemn someone from showing it to children, YES. Do I condemn child porn, YES. The republicans need to keep their noses out of our bedrooms and into the economic problems the country is facing.

Agreed Lady Cat. I am not a consumer of porn, yet I easily recognize that not all porn is equal.

"I think Santorum is a disease from Iran"

Santorum apparently does not believe that the Free Market is an acceptable tool for maximizing societal utility. Apparently Santorum believes that the government needs to tell individuals what to read and watch ... that freedom of speech is only for reactionary radicals like himself. It is nice to know that he is advocating a Big Government solution to a "problem" that the market couldn't handle.

Ah Rick, in your attempt to further solidify your appeal to the evangelicals, you have just given your campaign the proverbial kiss of death. This will become evident even to you during the upcoming primaries in the more moderate states.

Wet Willy

You better watch out, next he'll be going after your moniker for meatus acusticus externus penitration.

"There are some actors (actresses) in California who contracted Aids while filming porn....they might disagree with the proposition that no one is ever hurt by this industry!"

More people than are killed by cigarettes? Is Santorum shutting that down? More than die from heart disease due to eating red meat? Is Santorum shutting that down? More than die in traffic accidents? Is Santorum shutting down the auto industry? Check that last one ... he would at least destroy the UAW if given a chance. Lots of industries carry certain risks ... for the worker and the user ... but we don't typically react by shutting down an entire industry.

o.k. I will try to make this simple :

1. There are laws in this country. 2. The laws were passed by elected Legislators so that they would be enforced. 3. For a citizen to tell a legislator to ignore any law is presumptuous. He/she should lobby to get the law changed. That is the only, the democratic way. Everything else is an attempt at mob rule.

In the same vein, if a President tells legislators - sus legislators- to ignore eisting laws, it is tyranny.

Plus : This pronouncement came from one man in the GOP - Rick Santorum- not 'THE' GOP. Try to see the difference. Also, he situation in Texas was mandated by the White House,not the GOP.

Now, children , can you remember that ?

Patriotic American U.S.A.

"I think Santorum is a disease from Iran"

No, he's not from this planet. Santorum is from Uranus. (Well, somebody's anus.)

On a serious note, however, I question just where this man has his head (exactly which bodily orifice it's crammed up). He's saying that "porn" causes people to be misogynists and leads to violence against women. And yet, his holy book has been used to excuse rape and involuntary servitude of women for millennia. If it were up to the "christians" (mostly the Catholics, but there are a few others) women would be required to be barefoot, pregnant, and property of their men. This guy (I can't even call him a "man" because a real man would not be afraid of a woman excersizing her own mind) just needs to GO THE HELL AWAY!

Rick Santorum wants all American women barefoot, uneducated and pregnant. The only country he's qualified to be President of is Afghanistan.

Really? So many seem to think that they understand the minds of people that they oppose that they resort to their own uneducated opinions and insults. Rick Santorum is so in to the MSNBC created "war on women" that he has a wife who is a published author with a law degree AND a nursing degree and a daughter who he shows complete confidence and trust to handle very important aspects of his campaign.

This article itself says that this was a "little-discussed position paper" and this is another attempt to try to take Santorum "off message".

What I am more concerned about is;

1.How anyone can spew hate about a man with principals?

2.If pornography is so defensible, would you want your wife? sister? daughter? son? involved? Would it be okay if your daughter came home and said "daddy, this nice man gave me a card and said I would look great having sex on camera with 3 men posted all over the internet and got paid for it."

Freedom of speech is what everyone will claim is at stake here, but isn't the over riding factor more about exploitation and degradation?

ite time to get the heel of government regulations off the neck of American Business ... put the heel of regulation where it belongs ... on the neck of Free Speech and individual choice .. the perfect message for the far right

"Santorum said Sex is for Baby's, Not Pleasure"

"He goes on with his insanity to say its in the Bible"

Santorum;

Another Candidate for the US Presidency who has his first priorities wrong. Clamping down on Pornography. Who cares?

Am sure all Americans want him to take this issue on first, if he is elected as President. This is stupid to even go there.

Where are the Presidential Candidates who might just look at America's sick environment, making a change for the citizens who are poverty stricken, no jobs, no housing, foreclosures, the next wave of an overhaul of the Medical System.

We are crying out for just Someone who cares about the American people, and the problems we face, because of past Presidents decisions.

Afghanistan, and other squirmish Wars; (no more placating to Extreme Terrorists); our US Military Soldiers dying there by anti American Afghans who do not or know why we are there to protect them. Animals---how about a President who actually says and does what he promises.

Santorum is not the one---he is too focused on his religion, which will in fact turn people off. We are not all Christians. I do respect the Christian religion, but not when it comes into making decisions for important US/International issues, and Foreign Policy.

The real obscenity here is that he believes we need more government intrusion into our personal and private lives.

Only because they can't afford the Republican's fancy prostitutes.

You're right, because it is easier for the democrats to screw interns instead.

If you Liberals think pornography is such a great profession to be in, why don't you all encourage your daughters and nieces to go into it? Afterall, as you say it caters to women, and women get to make the choices right?

Jan:

YOU WROTE: "...there has been more violence related to religion than any other reason in history."

MY RESPONSE: Where's your documentation? Or do you just make up such reckless claims hoping that casual readers will accept them as FACTS? I've frequently heard/read that same false hysteria spewed by many individuals, who ALWAYS fail to include supporting documentation. And when I ask for their sources of information, they never seem able to cite any. So, put up or shut up!

In any case, I've got a news flash for you: the greatest evils in history usually resulted from the denial of God, not the pursuit of Him. In the last century alone, more innocent people were murdered, tortured, and enslaved by secular ideologies – Nazism and Communism – than by all religions in recorded history. And I have the documentation to backup that statement.

Grab a copy of the Guinness Book of World Records and turn to the category "Judicial," sub-heading "Crimes: Mass killings." You'll find that carnage of unimaginable proportions resulted not from religion, but from institutionalized atheism. Guinness reports, "The greatest massacre ever imputed by the government of one sovereign against another is the 26.3 million Chinese killed during the regime of Mao Zedong between 1949 and May 1965 (total of 16 years)."

The Walker report published by the U.S. Senate Committee of the Judiciary in July 1971 went one step further. It placed "…the total death toll in China since 1949 (total of 22 years) between 32.25 and 61.7 million." For our purposes, I think it's reasonable to accept the figure of 47 million killed in China as a compromise average for the 22-year span mentioned in the Walker report.

In addition, Adolf Hitler murdered six million Jews during the holocaust, which was performed for ethnic cleansing and false economics. Hitler was a social Darwinist, slaughtering people who didn't fit his concept of an Aryan master race. That's why he also sent an untold number of gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally impaired, and other "undesirables" to the gas chambers.

In the USSR, Nobel Prize winner Alexander Solzhenitsyn estimated that state repression and terrorism took over 60 million lives from 1917 to 1959 under Lenin, Stalin, and Khrushchev. However, the worst known per-capita genocide of all time happened in Cambodia under Pol Pot. According to Guinness, "More than one third of the eight million Khmers were killed between April 17, 1975 and January 1979."

Let me add to that mix some other recent atheist rulers who slaughtered vast numbers of people: Kim Il-Sung of North Korea dispatched approximately 1,600,000 people; Josip Broz Tito of Yugoslavia killed an estimated 1,072,000 people; and Nicolae Ceausescue of Romania put to death 60,000 folks.

In contrast, a recent comprehensive compilation of the history of ALL HUMAN WARFARE IN RECORDED HISTORY, "Encyclopedia of Wars" (a three-volume set by Charles Phillips and Alan Axelrod), documented 1,763 wars, of which only 123 have been classified to involve a religious conflict. So, what the anti-religion bigots, such as yourself, consider to be "most" really amounts to LESS THAN 7% OF ALL WARS in history involve religion. Most wars are fought for power, territory, and resources, according to historians.

Furthermore, here's a comparative tally pertinent to our discussion: the total number of deaths estimated to lie at the feet of Christianity throughout recorded history is approximately 17 million. This number can be derived from totals presented in the "Encyclopedia of Wars" along with various websites, and includes ancient wars, the Crusades, the Inquisitions, various European wars during the Middle Ages, and even witchcraft trials. For the sake of argument, let's assume that the other two predominant religions (Judaism and Islam) are responsible for an equal number of deaths because there is no known documentation for those estimates. That brings us to 51 million deaths attributable to the three predominant religions throughout recorded history. Even if you add to that total the deaths attributable to obscure religions, you'd still be hard pressed to match the 120+ million death toll achieved by atheist leaders during only the last century.

Therefore 17 million deaths attributable to Christianity throughout all of recorded history (or 51 million estimated deaths attributable to all three main religions) pales in comparison to the 120+ million deaths attributable to atheist leaders during just the 20th Century alone!

The obvious conclusion here is that atheist leaders are far more brutal, sadistic, and savage on a far larger scale than religious folks have ever been. The FACTS speak for themselves...you just have to examine them with an open mind. Otherwise, ignorance and anti-religion bigotry will continue to cloud your thinking.

You might want to ponder the words of Will Rogers, who once said, "It's not the things we don't know
that gets us into trouble. It's the things we know that just ain't true."

Oh, by the way, I'm not Christian, Jewish or Muslim. I'm a Deist who doesn't belong to any particular organized religion. I'm just trying to combat the ignorance supporting anti-religion bigotry on this website.

Say what you will about the porn industry, it's an industry. It's a job creator, not just for the performers but for the larger quantities of crew, technical people, and office staffs. Porn has been around since people started drawing on cave walls.

Unfortunately for the deeply weird Rick Santorum, human beings are not likely to give up their interest in sex anytime soon. It is much more interesting than he is.

Ban religion before you ban porn. Go after the big evils.

"The men in White are looking for Sanatorium"

Santorum is a fauxmerican.

He talks about ideas which are in direct conflict with the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution. Santorum wants to be the leader of a nation under the control of a religion.

He can go live in Iran.

I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his
justice cannot sleep forever.

Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson said this about slavery. Democrats should take note! God is not mocked. Going down this path will lead to more destruction.

They promise freedom, but they themselves are slaves of sin and corruption. For
you are a slave to whatever controls you. (2 Peter 2:19)

Unhappy-1583758

I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his
justice cannot sleep forever.

Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson said this about slavery. Democrats should take note! God is not mocked. Going down this path will lead to more destruction.

They promise freedom, but they themselves are slaves of sin and corruption. For
you are a slave to whatever controls you. (2 Peter 2:19)

He/she is not mocked because he/she doesn't exist. If you look hard enough in that book of magic you'll read where Jesus told slaves to be loyal and obedient and the "book" also allows people to sell their children into slavery. Yeah--sure--give me some of that "ole time religion."

"WORDS FROM RICK SANTORUM" - "Rape Victims should think of the babies Conceived during their Assault as gifts from God"

As usual the right shows its true colors... they are the party of control and imperialism.. they accuse President Obama of wanting to be a dictator and yet they are the ones that want to dictate morals to all Americans. I thought they were the party of the free market. If there wasn't a market of this type of product there wouldn't be porn... Isn't it funny that the red states are also the biggest consumers of porn while the blue states have the lowest instance of porn use.... Look at here in Utah.. one of the highest rates of porn subscriptions and use, but we are a very red and very republican state...

Patriotic American U.S.A.

"WORDS FROM RICK SANTORUM" - "Rape Victims should think of the babies Conceived during their Assault as gifts from God"

I listened to that fool say that. So---no matter what, a woman is legally bound to carry a fertilized egg from an act of rape in frothies world. Insane!

"WORDS FROM RICK SANTORUM" This time a Wisconsin speech to Bible thumping tea retards - (" Santorum said he is a changed man who found God, he said rape victims should not hold on to any pain, give your baby to the lord and he'll take care of it for you, wipe away your tears and look at it as a natural power" ) Is this guy Weird or what ?

Patriotic American U.S.A.

"WORDS FROM RICK SANTORUM" This time a Wisconsin speech to Bible thumping tea retards - (" Santorum said he is a changed man who found God, he said rape victims should not hold on to any pain, give your baby to the lord and he'll take care of it for you, wipe away your tears and look at it as a natural power" ) Is this guy Weird or what ?

I think you've nailed it. His mind just tells that mouth engage and interpret morality and the bible. I had a laugh when they spoke of a Santorum/Gingrich ticket, which is achievable by combining delegates. Outside the bible belt, where's the votes? The people of Pennsylvania and Georgia sent these guys packing and now they want to play god on the big stage.

Thank you Rhonda for showing the truth. These people are blinded and still will think that religion has killed more people then anything else. They dont want to know truth, the want to reject God, they dont care if they are wrong.

I had made a similar post months ago when debating someone about God and religion and death. They still came back with lame responses saying people dont kill in the name of atheism.

The people that complain about Porn the most and say they want to protect everyone else are the first ones in the door at the Adult Book Store and watch the most Porn. They are actually the best customers of the Porn Industry and do more to promote the industry then anyone else. It's like the people that complain about bars, they are the best customers of those establishments and make a pretty good living complaining about them.

So, because religion is responsible, by your own admission, for ONLY 51 MILLION DEATHS, which is less than some other causes, religion is fine? Every culture which gives religion primacy has seen the death penalty as the first rule for "opposing" religion. Religion, in all its guises, is the quest for money and power for the organizers of it. If god is all powerful, why do "his" organizations need money and power? Can't he supply it? Oh, guess not, since "he" is a fable.

DamonWV:

YOU WROTE: "I had made a similar post months ago when debating someone about God and religion and death. They still came back with lame responses saying people dont kill in the name of atheism."

MY RESPONSE: Atheist dictators don't have to say they kill in the name of atheism, but they do. The denial of that fact is just a feeble attempt to avoid the truth.

It's akin to claiming that Barak Obama doesn’t promote the ideology of the Democratic party while serving as our president. The Democratic ideology (i.e., tax and spend, etc.) is ingrained in Obama for sure, and his attempts to implement that ideology are daily transparent. In a similar way Stalin, Mao, Kruschev, Pol Pot, Hitler, and others promoted the ideology of atheism while serving as leaders of their prospective countries. Those leaders wanted everyone to believe that there is no God but the state. The atheist ideology was an integral part of how those leaders operated...their amoral compass, so to speak. And they proved it by enslaving, torturing, and murdering those who refused to "worship" the state.

Lou:

YOU WROTE: "Every culture which gives religion primacy has seen the death penalty as the first rule for "opposing" religion. Religion, in all its guises, is the quest for money and power for the organizers of it."

MY RESPONSE: Well then, what about the Jewish State of Israel? Do they execute non-Jewish people merely for being non-Jewish? And what about Jesus Christ, the organizer/founder of Christianity? Tell me about the money and power He amassed. Your sweeping generalizations and hyperbole are way off the scale.

Surely, there are some charlatans in religious institutions, as in nearly all institutions, because institutions are run by imperfect human beings. But your hysteria ignores the greater good that religious institutions generally achieve.

For example, organized religions often organize massive charitable assistance programs for those in need, (Catholic Charities, for example, is one of the LARGEST PRIVATE CHARITIES IN THE ENTIRE WORLD). Organized religions also foster mutual support for their own members during times of personal crises or need. Many organized religions run homeless shelters, provide free counseling for various addictions, and promote charitable volunteer work among church members. And much of the time, churches do such good work without any publicity. But we all know that just one misdeed or failure by a prominent church member makes instant headlines. Such is the nature of the biased news media.

Here’s a recent specific example of a good deed done by an organized religion. During the aftermath of Hurricane Irene, a local Christian church brought out 113 volunteers to cut wood from fallen trees, load it into 38 large trucks, and deliver it as free firewood to 33 needy families. The volunteers delivered between a half cord to three cords of firewood at each stop. For many people, that firewood was the only source of heat during the winter months, according to a press release. This is the fifth year that this particular church has spearheaded their “Firewood for Families” endeavor. The majority of the families who received the free firewood also utilize the church’s food pantry, which serves more than 450 families every week. That’s a lot of good work done by an organized religion!

And as far as I know, nobody made any money from that episode or exerted power over the downtrodden. And nobody was "blacklisted" for having non-Christian beliefs. In fact, none of the needy was even asked what religious beliefs, if any, they held.

Your anti-religion bigotry is shameful and ignorant.

BUTT naked.

Without porn (and gambling,) the internet would have died before getting to AOL 1.2.

The GOP, keeping their eyes on the prize, your wives'

and daughters' vaginas.

Will Mr. Frothy and the Republicans ever decide to focus on real issues ?

Probably not. Considering he believes sex is only for procreation, that means he's only had it 8 times in 22 years.

Sure he does. It's called the national geographic channel

Personally, I think he has the nastiest, biggest, and raunchiest porn stash ever and he's just projecting his own self-hatred and shame for being into that stuff onto the rest of the world.

the one who yells the loudest is usually the guiltiest

I think it's safe to say that Larry Flynt and Steven Hirsch use their own products. Santorum probably does too, but is ashamed to come out about it. :-)

Now how is Larry going to use his product??? you know he paralized right? or are you just commenting to hear yourself comment?

Personally, I think he has the nastiest, biggest, and raunchiest porn stash ever and he's just projecting his own self-hatred and shame for being into that stuff onto the rest of the world

the one who yells the loudest is usually the guiltiest

I think you both are likely correct. Well, I don't know about RS having the porn, but del, you are definitely right. Ever since I was a little kid, I've found this to be true. The people who beat their chest and thump their bibles the loudest proclaiming what great and good Christians they are are usually the biggest sinners. I've seen it time and time again. And the person at work who complains about being overworked the most usually doesn't have enough to do. Seen that one a few too many times.

SoftailMagnum,

I accidentally put my reply to you in the wrong thread. It's comment 5.7 below.

I find it ironic that Republicans (like Santorum) are out there wanting less government and government intruding into our lives, but when it comes to moral issues they want government to legislate morality," says Hirsch. "It doesn’t work. It will never work

Exactly right. Thus lies the contridiction of the GOP party in general. I know a few educated conservatives who after years of voting simply want nothing to do with the party. There's financial conservitives, then there's complete nut-jobs who want people like Santorum to run the country.

I only predict less and less support for the GOP party in the future. Don't get me wrong, there will always be financial conservatives, and they make decent arguements of how the economy should be run. But the GOP with it's moral contridictions just looks more and more silly as time goes on. I predict the rise of a new conservative party.

Stopping porn is what the communist Chinese do. If Santorum knew he was supporting the same position as the atheist anti-American communists do, he'd probably change his ridiculous tune.

It is just DISTURBING to read these comments where people prefer to support some filthy scum, slime, mysognist, pig, smut peddler like Larry Flynt, who I wouldn't touch with a 10ft pole. What the HE LL is wrong with this country that we've come to THIS??!! All the yapping about "staying out of women's vaginas", and this guy has them spread eagle for all the world to see. With any luck guys and gals, maybe YOUR daughter can be a star and share her crotch on his pages and on videos one day. If youu'r really luck, she'll get her own web site. Mr. Oink tells Santorum to "butt out" when he only wants to clean up the garbage, have women respected as persons, not being depicted as rutting barnyard animals for "gentlemen's" entertainment, and you all jump on the Flynt manure train, cuz you prefer to keep 'em on their backs and performing. Just WHO is waging a "war on women"? Jus how MUCH lower can you sink while calling yourselves "progressive"????

Aggie,

Viewing or participating in pornography is a choice. Don't like it? Vote with your wallet and tell your kids how filthy and immoral it is. Then they will vote with their wallets. It's a free market solution, not a big government solution. You can't call yourself conservative with a straight face if you support big government intrusions like that.

Aggie,

Most are not defending Flynt, but rather poking at the absurdity of Santorum's pick-and-choose freedom philosophy which, after months of claiming we are being run by communists hell-bent on taking away our freedoms while simultaneously proclaiming all the freedoms he wants to take away, begins to sound absurd.

I do not approve of Flynt, but I can stay away from him if I want. I don't seek out his ideas, and I don't purchase his products. The other goon is trying to become the leader of the free world, so I am a bit more concerned about his lunacy.

"Santorum should go back to peddling his wife off to porn with that Abortion doctor she had that fling with"

Pragmatic....Where did I support "government intrusion"? My point is that all I am reading is hooray for the one who markets filth...disdain for the one who is saying it's decaying. Since when is an opinion an "intrusion"? Don't tell me, I know. When it isn't the same as the liberals'.

Aggie,

You said:

Mr. Oink tells Santorum to "butt out" when he only wants to clean up the garbage, have women respected as persons

Your defense of Santorum and the way in which you word this statement makes it pretty clear you support that type of government intrusion. It's your opinion and I am sharing mine. The free market made Flynt rich. Find a free market solution to compete with him if you want to consider yourself a true conservative.

"This idiot Santorum should be talking about our Economy, Jobs, Unfair Trade, But instead hes talking about Porn, Birth Control, Women's Rights, War on Iran, Junk Science, Big Cuts on Education, Women Opt Military, Outlaw Contraception, Vomit on Kennedy, Calls Obama a Snob, Compares Obama to Hitler, He said Satan Walks With us, He called Obama a Birther, He Calls S.S., & Medicare Welfare, He said the GI bill was a waste, Said our President subscribe to phony theology based on the bible. Now its my turn, I think Santorum is a total Loser, this guy is talking out of his butt. This guy doesn't belong with the rest of the lot, hes a Phony.

Not only is R. Sant. a phony, he's anti-American, a true theocrat right out of the iranian mold of Ayathollah Khomeini. Only difference between these two puritanical nutjobs who hate liberty and free choice is their label of their particular religio\us obsession. I wish that nujob Santorum would go the hell into a monastery where he' and regular American would be much happier. Whyin hell did he attaend Catholic seminary and then get maried and have seven "or is it eight? children? Probably too much of a sex fiend himself to put up with required celibate life. What a hypocrite and a frighteningn neo-Nazi fascist who wants to have government control our persona lives while doing NOJT A FRIGGIN thing about jobs and the economy or holding the true criminals on Wall Street and in fnance who created this stinking depression we're still in. I want justice from thePresident of hte U.S. and fro Congress and I will never ever vote for anybody who is this whackjob or any other GOP candidate on offer this year. Get a life, Rick, go settle in the Middle East where you can have your fundamentalist religious wars to your heart's content. But don't expect those Muslim theocracys to give YOU freedom of spee ch to spout your own brand of fanacistm. No, you're a Chrstian, or you pretend to be, so you'd be lucky not to have a knock on the door in the middle of the night and net day be hung from a lampost or beheaded on national TV. Just what you'd like to do to those in U.S. who you disapprove of but who aren't hurting anybody, that would be women, gays porn industry watchers and "free market' creators. Also Democ rats, JFK, and the wrters of our Constitution who wer eall lwrong, according you you, who wants to take away the freedom of speech, religion assembly, privacy and for religion organized tokeep the hell out of government and our private lives except where kWE choose to invite it. By a personal decision of attending church or observing our own personal religous belief. Butt out, butt head.

Ummm...Debbie? Are you seriously concerned about our freedoms and the Constitution? And you're bad-mouthing Republicans? Have you taken a look at what obama and the democrats are doing? They are shredding the Constitution and taking away your God-given rights one by one.

Personally, I do not support Santorum's assault on distribution of pornography (hard core or otherwise), but that whole subject pales in comparison to the atrocities being committed on a daily basis by the democrats.

"Santorum is drawing flies to his Camp of Nuts"

"A republican government is slow to move, yet when once in motion, its momentum becomes irresistible" Thomas Jefferson

"Santorum and his tea nut buddies did alot of damage to the GOP"

Has anyone else noticed that Santorum looks amazingly like Niedermeyer, the homicidal fraternity president in the motion picture classic ANIMAL HOUSE?

Porn bores me, probably because I'm not a guy and it all looks the same. However, under the First Amendment, it has a right to exist, as long as none of the performers is underage or being coerced. No one chases you down the street and forces you to watch porn.

Santorum and his tiresome desert religious tradition also have a right to exist, the difference being that this dead-eyed weirdo and his co-religionists very much hope to chase the rest of us down the street and impose another Inquisition on everyone who doesn't abide by their rules. On a macro scale, Rick does not believe one bit in consent.

Pragmatic: Again, WHERE in my post do I say anything about the Government doing anything. Just because I am disgusted that everyone "respects" Flynt's stance and bashes Santorum for believing that porn is prevalent and disgusting.....means ONE thing, and I don't need you to expand on my words or put words in my mouth. Because I mentioned the name "Santorum" which IS after all the named person who Flynt is attacking, says NOTHING, whatsoever, about inserting Government. Flynt is a pig. Porn IS disgusting in the way it has permeated every medium and getting more and more a Cancer in America.. Liberals are creating a Republican war on women, but when a conservative voices his opposition and disgust about an industry that exploits and degrades women, the liberals bash him and defend this garbage peddler who has become rich...filthy (in every sense of the word) rich. Send those OWS crowds over there. I'll even hold my nose and go with them.

Your liberal "group speak" attempt to deflect and divert what I'm TRYING to say is duly noted.

The article and the question was about the need for more government and more guidance from our government on what we should be watching , doing etc.

Don't want it and don't need it.

That's not to say that porn is harmless. I just don't want the President thinking about it and whether he should let me watch it.

For all those who say, "what if it was your daughter?" I say it is her
right to choose, if she is over age... I have no right to tell my adult
daughter whether or not she can pose in a girly mag... just as I don't have the
right to tell my SON the same damn thing... get over that it is a violation
against women... it is Their choice... not mine, not the governments and most
certainly not yours...

Problem is the GOP has no solutions for anything, so they start picking on the morality crap. What total losers. We're mired in a serious economic downturn and they start babbling on and on about porno. Give me a break.

DB Ak, So If I understand you, this was caused by the media?

And NOW you are concerned about people not having health insurance.

I guess they will have to use the GOP method, don't get sick.

DB 'United Heath Care" Akron

You must represent some insurance company or perhaps your so called facts were gleaned from the only source of right wing 'truth' 'FUX NOISE' .......... Troll, Troll go away and don't come back.

While I am no fan of Larry Flynn's,if Santorum is elected president he's the one that will be ruining adults and children's minds, he is a religious ego manic to the inth degree. When these people are vetted do they have to go through psychiatric evaluation? If not they certainly should.

I find it ironic that Republicans (like Santorum) are out there wanting less government and government intruding into our lives, but when it comes to moral issues they want government to legislate morality," says Hirsch. "It doesn’t work. It will never work

Exactly right. Thus lies the contridiction of the GOP party in general. I know a few educated conservatives who after years of voting simply want nothing to do with the party. There's financial conservitives, then there's complete nut-jobs who want people like Santorum to run the country.

I only predict less and less support for the GOP party in the future. Don't get me wrong, there will always be financial conservatives, and they make decent arguements of how the economy should be run. But the GOP with it's moral contridictions just looks more and more silly as time goes on. I predict the rise of a new conservative party.

I think Santorum is sexually frustrated and him and his wife need to plug in a good porn flick and have some fun. Hey Santorum, what about doing something about gas prices, health care for the elderly, unemployment......things that really matter in this country.

"NEWS JUST OUT" -- "The Tea Retards are now selling Toilet paper with Santorum on it, hes good for a dump ? This is a Rick Santorum Fund Raiser"

Santorum IS talking about jobs and the economy, Cathy! And for those among you who still worship at the altar of obama...WHERE IS HIS SUCCESS in the economy? You talk about a leader and a party with no ideas! I know that you hate George Bush...and, to be honest, I don't know how America EVER survived all those years of 4% unemployment! This porn issue is a straw dog issue...nothing more than a distraction. Even if Santorum were to make the effort to more strictly regulate porn distribution, he would not get anywhere with it...no one in Congress (either party) will support it. And why not? Because...as Cathy inferred, there are MORE IMPORTANT issues to deal with. We have to recover from the last four years, and it will take more than Santorum's eight years in office to do that.

"Robert, is Santorum's nose Crooked or is it just me" ???

You are absolutely correct Robert, this and many other issues that the Democratic Liberals are throwing out these day's are nothing more than a diversionary tactic to avoid addressing all the failures of Barry Sortoro and his socialist party. The sad part is that the news media is in bed with these clowns. Divide and conquer, that's the oldest ploy in the world and that is exactly what Barry and his followers are doing, because it's their only chance. They can't defend all their mistakes. They talk about how they are the friends of the working man and the unions, what a joke, Barry never had a real job in his entire life and he certainly never belonged to a union. He is the pal of Hollywood and all the weirdo actors, plus George Soros the billionaire and if that is his idea of the poor working man, we really are in trouble.

Hey Santorum, what about doing something about gas prices, health care for the elderly, unemployment......things that really matter in this country.

Really, I was just going to ask the President about that. Afterall, that is why you want to vote for him again, right?

"More tax cuts for the Rich and the destruction of social programs." Now that's something to be "Unhappy" About !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have VHS? WTF? I have Blu Ray...

If that comment went over your head, WMG, you are too young to understand.

...and streaming media, making payments over the net, the list goes on. It's like the space program.

If I remember correctly, it was also at least partially because of the porn industry that Blu-Ray won over HD-DVD.

Hi-speed internet=porn

Van - the same MO was tried with women and contraception - result democrats drop in the polls. I'm not a betting man, but probably the same thing is going to occur again.

SoftailMagnum,

There are other ways of having sex if you are paralyzed. You think that's the end of their sex life? If they were sexual before, they will be sexual after. Sexual activity begins in the brain.

Also, unless you know exactly what level of his spine was injured, you wouldn't know if he is capable of erections or not.

Katherine - TMI

The fact of the matter is if you are an adult and still whacking regularly and you have a family and a wife it will be not a cool thing and very reasonable family folks that are not so pop culture Hollywood popular work hard to resist the temptation of porn to hold a basic integrity and respect for their wives and children, porn sucks for most women and any woman for it needs to re examine what love is, we all been hurt before in relationships and most relationships go sour when we are not the lover in perfect need of the other not measuring up. Sex is a real intimacy for an evolving love that takes work and and healing even when things are not working out , there is hope in all of it. Its just a concern technology is changing and the industry is overexposed, regulations is not govt. in your business. I think most people would agree that if there wife or husband actually lived out everything in a porn they would not stay married to that person, on average, we realize there are some exceptions and everyone has the freedom to do whatever in private, but the aftermath of doing these escapades has apparent consequences (tiger woods story for example) and most woman and men would not actually want that fantasy in reality, and porn has power to arouse in ways chemically are out of hand, younger people get into it before there time, and to me if you do not want your spouse to be running around thinking about sex all the time and orgies and multiple partners same sex partners and you got know self control or moral compass in it, than through porn it just comes in a different door.

my wife pretty scarred from porn always carefree around the house growing up, it effected a lot of how she saw relationships between boys and her friends. Especially now with high schools and immaturity mixed with lesbians and gays and you try to be tolerant but you are growing during puberty phases and just have not grown up enough yet . So liberals threw out the solid ground and everyone is just being controlled by media and imagery graven images however that comes about its a lot and modernity has never studied the effects of all this, its not a normal thing this information generation. Republicans are not going to take your rights away you fools, its about protecting the rights of the people and the timeless natural law truths. guys I know who care nothing for others and are completely selfish and who happen to have a liberal attitude towards porn only mainly look at the outside of a woman for her beauty thinking of sleeping with them and that is the excitement of the day, they rarely consider the whole inner being and whole aspect of a woman and thats not womans rights than. And conservatives have a proper boundary , its just a guide. if Democrats are so open minded and will use this to say con's are hypocrites then why the heck do they want more of the three branches of government to be involved in more of the citizens lives? they are wanting more in your paycheck and more do they want to define each person based on their sexuality , the libs forced it all to be an issue instead of accepting gay sex orgy world as an obscure thing that is odd and not a good life long life style. The gays that are respectful usually fall in line with monogamy and respect some aspects of religion and others rights and have some natural law they use to measure. Jesus said we all sin in our hearts and that one needs forgiven only of holy blood but we should not judge others only through receiving the gift of the holy spirit and salvation will sin become a clear issue but thats for the believer to deal with. To me what God taught me is that if I would not actually do in reality what is on a porn and my wife would feel betrayed whether in reality or in film than it is adultery and I need to see the greater beauty of my wife in all of it and allow that sexuality in that part of love growing to be a stronger one. There is ample evidence that one partner as you get older your sex life when practiced correctly is more intense and full of joy when you know each other better , guys like Larry Flynt would like you to think otherwise. Look God will ultimately be the judge in all this, most of us know that Larry Flynnt is deceiving himself and others and sure on a personal level for moneys sake he probably is a good professional guy, and probably someone somewhere has been helped by some of his charity and he does provide jobs, consensually for a woman it can pay, but truly whats more important ? Liberals always bashing the greedy capitalists but yet all liberalism sells out, sex sell and stirs emotions that are short cuts to real love. Flynt believe the lie and at some point the Lord draws all things upon Himself but we are all left to our free will and left to our sinful temporal lusts. Our God is good and just and merciful, Larry someday will have to confront that just like liar greedy politicians.

Your god does not exist. Prove what you say as you are the one making the claim. No one will be judged. They will be dead. Have you personally seen your god judging anyone? No one has or ever will. Your god has been 'saying' he was coming back for 2000+ years. He never comes year after year but you still believe he will. Keep your god where he belongs, in your church.

First of all moron, you make a lot of noise with your athiest mouth, but you have no proof that God doesn't exist and none of your kind do. Let's put it this way fool, if God does exist, your in deep trouble dummy, but if he doesn't exist, it's no big deal, because those who believe haven't lost one thing, but you and your kind sure have.

Santorum thinks Porn is related to "Pink Slime"

David Smith-2609002 Your god said 2000+ years ago he would be back in this lifetime. Do you know anyone 2000+ years old?

In Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30, it says: "This generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place."

Did he lie? You still believe he's coming And I am the moron? Name calling is for kindergarten. Maybe you never graduated past it.

You sound like a real intelligent guy Ken, I'm sure you were an honor student at the school for the mentally challenged. Get you facts straight idiot, your pal Barry Sortoro is helping China ten times more than any republican ever has. He and his socialist pukes have just awarded all of the bridge repair jobs in America to Chinese Contractors and this would have created thousands of jobs for Americans. It also gives China billions of dollars that could have stayed here. Do some research moron.

Two thousand and twelve times your book has been proven wrong. Year after year, century after century. And I read all the book not just what was taught in Sunday school. Name one thing they talk about that has not taken place already. Wars, disease, hunger?

Please no magical stuff such as angels flying in and multi-headed dragons and all.

So a generation is 2000+ years? LMAO

This is what you get when you voted 17 tea retards into Congress that support this nut Sanatorium.

Roadkill,

Sorry, I hoped it wouldn't offend anyone. I thought it was kind of informative. I couldn't think of a word to substitute for e______n.

If it is really offensive to everyone, feel free to collapse it.

Thanks

politummy you don't have to believe in God to know that some of the porn out there is truly disgusting. Notice how I said "some"? If you can't admit that, then seriously, you have been desensitized; and that is precisely my issue. It will get to the point that nothing surprises you.

@boom -- My comment was intended to be humorous. He used the present tense: we have VHS -- I thought that was funny, because I don't know anyone who currently uses the platform any longer. Everyone's moved on to Blu Ray or digital (streaming) media, at the very least DVD. In brief, no, the comment wasn't over my head. I know what Beta Max is. I pretty much always associate it with the crook from the Simpsons after stealing what he thought was their VCR:

"Oh no! Beta..."

Wow... this has to be a real tough call for the tea party. Support someone purposing to use the government to infringe on people's rights... or Obama.

Like Santorum's any better? Did you forget the indefinite detention, drone surveilance, torture, and drug war Santorum escalated? That's 4 of 100 things Santorum did to violate our rights. Wake up already, you partisan sheep..... I like this, just write anything you want, if you can't back yours up then I won't worry about mine

Ron Paul's the only one that'll try to end all this.

Exactly right. Thus lies the contridiction of the GOP party in general. I know a few educated conservatives who after years of voting simply want nothing to do with the party. There's financial conservitives, then there's complete nut-jobs who want people like Santorum to run the country.

I only predict less and less support for the GOP party in the future. Don't get me wrong, there will always be financial conservatives, and they make decent arguements of how the economy should be run. But the GOP with it's moral contridictions just looks more and more silly as time goes on. I predict the rise of a new conservative party.

"Santorum is against Millennium"

I wetch porm ery day and it dont hrt me onee bitt.

Have you done any research-- other than watching porn? I think your cerebral cortex is smaller.

I don't know about brain damage. However, I understand (by personal experience) that pornography, along with adiction to masturbation DOES cause prostate problems!!

Sounds more like Santorum is married to machelle bachman or her husband

Ok Gary.....too much information.....

Gary : Oh damn ...really ? Could you please shine some more light on it ?

Cause i porn watch everyday and so far it does not seem to have drained my bamage much ...

Gary is causing prostate problems with man, watch your back ?

Porn is unimportant in a good, loving sexlife.

However, to demand that procreational sex is the only sex, out there, is wrong....That's an archaic fundamentalist approach to a married couple's relationship.

Porn is unimportant in a good, loving sexlife

Says you.

However, to demand that procreational sex is the only sex, out there, is wrong....That's an archaic fundamentalist approach to a married couple's relationship.

It's also tremendously un-American. People were up in arms about death panels. Imagine morality panels going over every detail of the plowing your gave your wife the other night, whether you were intent on pro-creation, whether your foreplay constituted masturbation or other sinful behaviors, and what punishment you and your wife should receive for violating the moral code. Of course they only have one punishment on the morality panel: stoned to death in the town square.

For married men Porn is the difference between life and death by busted blue balls .... :-)

Gary is looking for your Prostate, He wants to see if its OK ?????

And you know this how?

Kikee, so much for that mantra of more liberty and freedom for all huh? It is quite ironic and hypocritical for him or anyone else to decry porn while in the same breath espouse how the government is too large and impactful on the lives of every American. Which one is it? You can't have it both ways......unless you are a douchebag.

There are waaaaaaaaaaay bigger issues facing our nation that include "Where are the jobs?" that the right seemed to beat to death leading up to the 2010 election. Wow, look at how much they are focusing on all those jobs, gotta love their attention spans. So I ask Kikee, how much do you want government involved in your life??

By reading.... do some research on porn induced erectile dysfunction...it's alarming how many men are having problems. And no, I'm not joking, guys who use porn suck in bed

You people are so funny! Are you saying that watching porn causes erectile dysfunction -as in limp-? That is the reason of PORN!!! What other reason is there?

Really Kikee? So you know because you are a homosexual? If not, all I can say is that you are full of excrement and your simply talking out of your butt. I can point out the same number of studies that state that pornography induces and relieves stress in partners and makes them more comfortable with their sexuality, i.e. people who are the opposite of Santorum and his frothy squadmembers.

Rather than try and involve himself and yourselves in the bedrooms of others, how about we focus on the economy, jobs, and healthcare costs. There is a winning discussion....unless you have no idea how to attack these problems which is why so many on the right revert to this stance. They (conservatives) have no idea how to fix problems so they create other problems to attack and get on their soapbox for.

causes brain damage in adults and children

You may be correct if you are talking about Rick Perry or Rush Limbaugh

Children watching porn - sure! It's called evening news and just about any show on TV. Porn - comes in all shapes and sizes.

Is this why so many Republicans are for Viagra?

And no, I'm not joking, guys who use porn suck in bed.

So its ok to sleep around, just not to watch porn, sounds like you have lots of experience in this area

If it's true that porn causes brain damage then this bunch of Republican candidates for president probably use a TON of it. Hmmmm, maybe that's why they're against it. They know what it did to THEIR brains and they're just trying to protect their constituency from wanting to get into politics. Hahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

God Almighty, please have mercy on America and put the fear of God back in it's citizens.

Why should we be afraid of something that does not exist? Please fill me in on how many times God steps up and saves children, women, hell people in general from all the natural disasters that occur around the world. Any reason why he doesn't? Easy, he is a figment of the weak willed imagination. I have no problem with people of faith, so long as their faith remains in their own mind and life. No need to push it on others and proselytize about how God says this, God does that etc etc etc.

Show me an instance where God's will did something positive and I will show you were he is an absentee landlord. There is no book that defines what is and isn't acceptable behavior. If you can't decipher that without a book or some tax dodging, hypocritical, pedophile on the altar preachng to you while passing around the donation plate, then you need all the help you can get. Most of the righteous conservatives in politics that like to emphasize their religion are some of the biggest hypocrites on the planet and their indiscretions speak volumes of their moral fiber and ethical boundaries.

Needless to say, my vote says stay out of my bedroom and I will respect your right to continue to believe in the tooth fairy and easter bunny. It is time for those who are so "righteous" to put the needs of the nation and citizens ahead of their own greed and beliefs, as they took an oath to represent all their constituents, not simply the ones who donated the most or share the exact belief system. That is the fabric that makes America so great a nation and it has failed within the last 30 years due to greed, apathy, and divisiveness.

Maybe all this legislation of morality is part of his jobs program. Just like in Iran and Saudi Arabia, religious people walking the streets whipping people who don't conform to their vision of clean decent living according to their religious beliefs.

Just think of the job opportunities for the religious police.

By reading.... do some research on porn induced erectile dysfunction...it's alarming how many men are having problems.

Not to worry, Kikee -- if a Republican gets elected, health insurance won't pay for birth control, but I'm sure Viagra will still be covered.

Kikee, you need to get out of your church basement and get laid... badly. Of course, you will have to buy some condoms or the "devil's raincoat" as your people call them.

By reading.... do some research on porn induced erectile dysfunction...it's alarming how many men are having problems.

And the rate of violent crime goes up when the consumption of ice cream goes up. That, by the way, is a fact. The problem is false attribution. Correlation is not causation.

It is also a fact that diabetes is near-epidemic in today's America. Erectile dysfunction (impotence) is on the rise, at about the same rate as diabetes. You could also look into the use of certain antidepressant drugs, all of which have decreased libido and ED as possible side effects.

All things considered, YOU might want to do some actual research. Not the bull@!$%# research we commonly call "confirmation bias," but real research.

Please fill me in on how many times God steps up and saves children, women, hell people in general from all the natural disasters that occur around the world.

When was the last time the news reported something that was good? Don't remember? Well then you have your answer.

Show me an instance where God's will did something positive and I will show you were he is an absentee landlord.

Ever hear of Mother Teresa?

The greatest disease in the West today is not TB or leprosy; it is being unwanted, unloved, and uncared for. We can cure physical diseases with medicine, but the only cure for loneliness, despair, and hopelessness is love. There are many in the world who are dying for a piece of bread but there are many more dying for a little love. The poverty in the West is a different kind of poverty -- it is not only a poverty of loneliness but also of spirituality. There's a hunger for love, as there is a hunger for God.”
― Mother Teresa

sk-nitroWV-

I'm glad you mentioned that. In addition to diabetes and anti-depressants playing a part in ED, some heart medications, especially the stronger meds used for more advanced heart disease can cause it also.

Clearly we need to outlaw sugar and ice cream. They're driving us to pornography and violent crime. The moral decay of society also happens to cause tooth decay.

"Porn is like watching fox lowlife news"

Kevin-2320972 with Viagra, I guess they won't need porn.

Technically smithson, you are a child until late teen years; you stop growing at about age 25.

To those of you who are saying that porn does cause brain damage… I say so what (not that i believe that)? Put a label on it and let people take their own risk.

And I hate to be the one to break this to you…but people have been masturbating long before any media came out.

And hello not only men watch porn… goodness why do people think that women don’t watch or read porn… have you ever read a harlequin romance? Cause I got to tell you they can get pretty steamy…

Grow up people cause if the government gets to regulate porn all those romances and free author websites will be shut down… and then what will be next after that? Will we go back to Betty Boop can’t have her skirt above her thigh?

And wow,,, he had all that sex without porn. You do realize when you're watching porn that sex with your own hand isn't really sex, right?

I'm actually quite disturbed that Kikee seems to know a lot about Rick Santorum's sex life.

Kikee,

How about when I and my girlfriend watch porn together, looking for something interesting that we haven't tried yet? Is that real sex? I recommend you try it the next time you and a boy friend, or your husband decide to stay in for "movie night". Preferably after a good testosterone pumping action flick, with lots of guns and car chases and explosions. And a couple of bottles of wine. Wine is good. And Pizza...maybe a couple of candles...Hmmmm.... I'm gonna have to go find my phone, see ya.

Santorum wants to reduce porn because he is worried it will lead to his further impregnating his wife, how many kids already?

No doubt. No more dead fetuses to take home and cuddle with.

THAT is one sick bastard. Google his name. There is a reason the returns are so disturbing.

"sk-nitroWV, That was a Sick Act, this Ricky needs help big time."

So he doesn't have a brain at either end, huh?

Uh..don't want to have to point out the obvious here but Larry Flynt is the one who doesn't have a penis anymore.

That Abortion doctor that his wife had a six year affair with probably cut it off, the guy was crazy with knifes ?

On the flip side of that coin, how many are watching it with their partners and spouses?

You act as if they go on an eight hour expedition.

Then again, what concern of it is to you? Why are you so concerned about what adults do in thier own homes. Focus on your own house instead of everyone elses. I bet you peek out your windows to spy on your neighbors when you hear them outside. Always have to have your nose in other peoples business.

I voted yes. Not because I watch it, but because it is none of my damned business what other people are doing in their bedrooms. If someone wants to whack it ten times a day, I could not care less. It's their body, not mine.

How much time a day do you spend being nosey? Just curious.

Santorum is playing Rambo with Iran and he was never in the military, the best Rick could do is hide under a Rock.

They're actually hypersexual from watching too much porn! I wish some of you would stop commenting here long enough to really do some research!

I would take a break from commenting on here to read, but I am watching porn as I write this (sarc). How about you grow up and mind your own business and allow ADULTS to make decisions on what they watch for themselves. Isn't that the freedom that you conservatives seem to press for so much? Which is it? Why are you so hateful of someone else watching it? Does it make you feel insecure about your sexuality? Does it make you feel inadequate? It must or else you would realize that no one needs your input into their personal lives.

Hey Kikee - I noticed that you have commented a lot about other people commenting without doing research. Yet you have yet to show the slightest amount of intelligence, or research, in the comments you make. Maybe you should step up to the plate and show that you are an intellectual human being.

Kikee is Ricks daughter ... the one he is stumping after beating his wife (Look at her arms, they are always black and blue) Rick, like most Evangelicals is into incest.

Kikee,

Please post the source of your research and all these "facts" you keep spewing out. Where does this information come from? I, and probably many others, would like to see it for myself.

chriscade,

I loved your comment. Sums it all up nicely!

Rick Santorum made his kids sleep with his wife's dead fetus he took home from the hospital, this is beyond insanity and weird, it makes your skin crawl.

Tell that to the President! He is the one in power right now.

"Santorum is "Weird" as a Rock floating in the Ocean"

Man do you have that right!!! Was he exposed for being a drug addict before or after he made the comment about putting ALL drug dealers to death? But you're right, most right wing looney toons think more about sex, take more drugs, abuse more children than the rest of us together. If you don't believe me just look at the news about murders and child abuse cases and the politicians taking bribes and drugs and buying hookers [excuse me call girls][yeah right]. Most of those things seem to happen in the states where the right-wing nutjobs are.

Clearly nobody speaking about Rush Limbaugh and his history of addiction, has experienced a genuine addiction to one of these commonly prescribed pain killers. Addiction, depending on your own genetics, liver and kidney function, etc. May have an onset as early as after one pill. It may not be severe, but for some, it can occur. Certainly after a week, addiction begins in most, albeit slowly. What he had, required a longer term usage and consequently, addiction was pretty much unavoidable. I have no view on the guy politically any more than I do on Howard Stern They are both entertainers! By the way, no, I never had an addiction problem that I am writing this. You might say my colleagues have been guilty of over prescribing some things.

Matt2631617,

I agree, that was put very well. You said addiction can begin with the first pill. You are absolutely correct.

I am a recovering addict (12years), and I knew I liked the way I felt if I had to take a pain pill. I was put on them (just for 3 or 4 days) after a minor surgery when I was probably 18. I didn't become physically addicted at that time, but psychologically I was.

I never abused drugs until I was about 40, but I never forgot how they made me feel. Not high or stoned or anything like that, it was more a feeling of peace (I was quite a worrier, no excuse, but that's what I noticed the meds lessened), that things would work out.

In contrast my daughter, sons, and sisters have never abused drugs. They always say they don't like the way they make them feel. I'm proud of my kids that they didn't take after me. I just can't imagine that I wouldn't like the way they (the pills) made me feel. It's so foreign, but the way I am is foreign to them too.

So, I really can't tolerate Rush, either, but there is so much more to find fault with than his being an addict. He'd be a jerk no matter what, addict or not.

"Santorum is a sick bimbo, how can anyone vote for him is Crazy"

Santorum has obviously not read Solomon's song in the bible if he thinks sex is only for procreation.
That part of the bible has alot of steamy romance. :o)

The government shouldn't try to legislate morals. Flynt is right. It never works and fails every time. Look at prohibition for instance. People wouldn't stop drinking. Same thing with the war on drugs. A dismal failure.

@Repulicans or Justplaingreedy - And what exactly does your comment have to do with the content of the above story? Did you mention Limbaugh's drug problem because he is a conservative like Santorum? And for Judy S. Curtis.....Where is it mentioned in this article or anywhere else for that matter that Santorum thinks sex is for procreation? The book you are referencing is Song of Songs or in some instances Solomon's Song of Songs. If you have read this book of the Bible you should know that sex is a gift from God meant to be shared between husband and wife. Man is the only of God's creations that can have sex at anytime they wish to express their love for one another. Almost all Other animals have sex within certain seasons when the female is receptive to a male and it is usually done for procreation. There are only very few exceptions in the animal world. No where in the Song of Songs does it mention that sex is to be engaged in for procreation only. In fact the "steamy romance" described in the book proves that God meant for sex to be enjoyed by married couples. As far as the pornography; I do not like it and therefore do not look at it. I have looked at it as a teenager but have absolutely no desire to view it now. I am against stopping others from viewing porn. It is an invasion of privacy and it is also unconstitutional to make pornography illegal. @Neonguy1971 - it is obvious from reading your comment that you have a deep seated hate for anyone that does not share your political views. You make it sound like all conservatives think exactly alike and that they have no variation in their political, moral or religious beliefs. Believe it or not, I do not even agree with Rush Limbaugh all the time. Most conservatives vary in their views and beliefs. Please tell the forum exactly where did you get your data that conservatives think more about sex, doing drugs and abusing children than all of you combined? When I read an article concerning a murder, or a child being abused or read about drug abuse, or a John's frequenting of hookers, the political party of the offend is virtually never mentioned so the source of your information would be helpful. If I had to bet money, I would bet that you have no real data on your outrageous claims and that you simply hate conservatives so much that you are willing to say anything about them, true or not. I will tell you that I can do a search and find rape allegations against one of our past presidents. I can also find evidence of perjury on that same past liberal democrat. I can also find allegations of murder against that president in the deaths of Ron Brown and Vince Foster. Anyway, there is enough information out there to make valid accusations against many politicians and their constituents without having to make broad allegations that have absolutely no evidence to back them up.