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Amelia Earhart in an undated photo.
The State Department plans to join a new effort to find the plane of pioneering aviator Amelia Earhart, 75 years after she mysteriously disappeared over the South Pacific.
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood will take part in a ceremony Tuesday morning announcing the joint public-private search at the State Department, The Wall Street Journal reports. The event, "Amelia Earhart, a Pacific Legacy," which is pitched as a celebration of the U.S.'s pan-Pacific ties, will be streamed live at 9 a.m. on the State Department's website, a spokesman for the agency said.
Earhart's twin-engine Lockheed vanished July 2, 1937, as she and her navigator, Fred Noonan, left New Guinea (now Papua New Guinea) on their way to Howland Island in the South Pacific as part of an attempt to circle the Earth.
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The search will center on the Nikumaroro Islands in the South Pacific.
The half-million-dollar search, financed with private funds, will begin in July. The key area is the Pacific atoll of Nikumaroro between Hawaii and Australia, The Journal reports:
A search team will concentrate on the deep waters near Nikumaroro, which was the site of a 2010 search that focused on coral reefs and nearby shallow waters, these people said.
The search will be spearheaded again by the International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery, which has championed the theory that the renowned female aviator and Fred Noonan, the other crew member on the July 1937 flight, ended up on or near the west coast of the island, formerly called Gardner Island.
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Geez, I think she'd probably be dead by now, even if she safely landed the plane.
I'm just thrilled that our government has it's priorities straight. We're $16T in the hole and we are going to search for a dead aviator. Splendid! Maybe next we can start more war, cut taxes, and everyone gets a pony!
What about "privately funded" do you not understand?
@sandtrich, try reading the article first before commenting
they are using the money saved from not teaching sandy the basics of reading comprehension
I think they should look in the President's Book of Secrets. I bet her final location will be found in there!
LOL Nice Ed!
I'd love to read that book too! :)
What a waste of money.
Private company LO -- can waste what they want. Besides, it's not a waste. They HIRE people to do the looking and spend money creating jobs and buying things.
There's a remote chance they ended up underwater.
75 years later and they seriously think they will find even a trace of the plane? Yeah right, build one of the same planes used, all the same materials, put it in a field next to a tree line and leave it alone. Come back in two years and you might be lucky to find the tires, salt water effects on metal alone makes it hard to believe that they could ever find the plane even IF she landed on an island, which that alone is highly unlikely.
I don't know Rack. She might still be out there somewhere hanging out with Elvis for all we know!
I agree with Sandtrich's post #1.2! Yes, the venture is funded with 'private funds'. However, the time the State Dept. and other government agencies will spend on this long lost aviatrix is time which could be spent on more productive endeavors for our troubled country. Miss Earhart is undoubtedly deceased by now; we have larger and much more important national problems to solve. Just my humble opinion.
You see. Do you all see? THIS my friends is what happens when you make women angry and tell them they are too stupid are uninformed or incapable and unable to make choices for themselves about themselves. They will go to GREAT lengths to prove you wrong. Insane tea bagging republican candidates and those in government. When will you learn? When will you learn?
NONE of you seem to know the first thing about women. ; ]
Go Hillary.
Cheers
I read the article, but you know how the leaders of this country throw in the cash on any silly a&$ endeavor. Every thing that these dogs in the House and Senate do is to benefit themselves. That space station that we pay to hitchhike to, these nonsensical wars and promise of more wars, increased defense spending, satellites to keep an eye on average citizens--al this when we're so far in the whole that it will take a "Hail Mary" pass to get out of.
@sandtrich,
No, it's the Republicans who do that.
Looking at all of the posts above and below, I have to wonder if any of you took the time to read the WSJ link which gives more details of the real story behind this. Of course, most posters don't take the time to read anything but the headlines (let alone any of the embedded links) before posting their comments.
@ anti-trust. Most don't.. They are headline grabbers and thats it. Like most of America, they have forgotten to read.
http://news.discovery.com/history/amelia-earhart-clumps-island-castaway-clues-110302.html
That has some interesting info. There has been many searches done on Nikumaroro island which has turned up promising leads. The Japanese most likely held her in an internment camp somewhere after she was in Nikumaroro..
Her plane was most likely salvaged by the Japanese and disguised as another Lockheed..
This is just an election year stunt to try and distract people from the lousy job Obama has done. No matter the cause of her disappearance, it was seventy-five years ago. Privately funded or not, it's not the job of our State Department to solving "History's Mysteries." It's pure political nonsense and a waste of time. Let the International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery handle this. Why do they need our government employees? It's not even our territory.
Or try this link, just as interesting.. http://www.irene-amelia.com/
Wasting their time and money. One night I couldn't sleep and listened to one of those radio shows that come on at 2:00 a.m. It was about space aliens and the experts on the show knew without a doubt that aliens abducted Amelia in flight. They will never find anything!
With Billery involved , they will manufacture evidence including a skeleton with altered dental work just so they can claim they found what no one else could. Then they will claim Obama found her.
Will Howard Hughes be next? Maybe they retired on Gilligans island just to get away from the worlds bs??
Put the money towards education. You know that segment of our community our right wing hates.
Remember Wisconsin & Rhode Island ???
If they do recover the plane Spain may want it..
C'mon. Amelia's whereabouts will be revealed...eventually. She was abducted by aliens after an errant spacecraft used its photon blasters to bring the plane down. She and Noonan were captured. Noonan proved troublesome to the aliens so they planted him head first like a coconut tree on Jupiter's moon Europa. We will find him when we get there. Amelia, who has won over the aliens with her charm and boyish looks, is now learning the secrets of the universe and will return to complete her flight in 2037, the 100th anniversary of her disappearance. Only this time, her Lockheed Electra 10 will be powered by advanced cold fusion technology and she will land on the White House lawn where she will be welcomed by President Justin Bieber. (The US will be in such a mess by then...that the 28th Amendment will allow Canadians to become president.) Amelia will share her new technology with Earth and humanity will enter a dawn of a new era.
This is why is so important for the State Department to get involved in this.
Now, why in the World would the SofS and the SofT get involved in a PRIVATE FUNDED SEARCH ?
If this "search" is going to be privately funded, leave the SofS's plane in the HANGAR and LaHood's gas guzzling Ford F-350 truck in the garage.
Nah, put the money towards sending the Progressives~Liberals back to school. Wait a minute, it was just reported that 1 in 4 dropped out of school. And that 1 is.......yep......you guessed it.....slanting Left.
For the brainiacs that can't figure out why the Secretary of State would be involved, READ the article. It is a JOINT ceremony of US Pan Pacific Ties. As Secretary of State, her job IS relations with foreign states. Also in regards to foreign affairs and how they can affect US citizens abroad. I guess Emilia Erhart was a foreigner. If you would look a bit farther than the front of your nose you'd also understand Erhert was supported by the State Department in this attempt. Get an education.
She was an American/feminist hero...but who cares? This is so over already.
sandtrich
So busy in your right wing bubble that you dont even read its private funds. So you just yap about the goverment, How about since its privately funded its giving people jobs to do and will get people like ship captains and whatnot work. But of course everything in life is the fault of the government even when it has NOTHING to do with it, an even when proven you did not read you stll blab about it costing money which is totally false. There is an article on the mets todaya also. You can go post how the government is paying for baseball and sports salaries and its a waste. Considering it is just as true as your statements, why stop making things up here
RwEvans,
Actually some of these deep water areas act as tombs almost like a mummy for some of these old planes and ships. Deep cold water can perserve things very well. Same reason we can still find ships that suk hundreds of years ago
And at Scrambolo, You also seem to be in this bubble of how private funds being used to try and find something is setting the government back cause Hillary will be at the beginning ceremony? Yes I am sure that 20 mins will cost the tax payers and state department so much money. I mean, Since it was privately funded.
What I find amazing is the Right wing haters of all things of the current governmet and are complaining about costs are to dumb to take into consideration that a privately funded excursion is going to pay people to work and not cost a dime. I guess if a member of the government is not talking about making abortion illegal and making contraceptive illegal then saying we also dont want help anyone with all the unwanted babies then they are not doing the proper teapublican job
Second time in reading a few articles that right members talked about stuff with nothing to do with the subject.
Don't believe everything you read. One question you must ask yourself is why in the world with all the problems that we having that the SoS and TS are getting involved with finding a 70 year old legend? Even if it is privately funded don't think that resources that the government allocates for this fishing expedition wouldn't come out of your pocket. So ask the question again what in world does the US govt have to gain by finding a a plane and woman that died and crashed 70 years ago?
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood will take part in a ceremony Tuesday morning announcing the joint public-private search at the State Department.
So by that someone with pull got a government grant to help pay for this crap.
patriotsrcoming---Try reading the article again....slowly.
Really people?
we've pretty much had the Earhart mystery solved ever since partial remains were found on an island... in 1940. That's right, 70 years ago. Only four years after she vanished
To be fair, half of the bones were carried away by giant crabs, and the rest have since been lost because nobody thought it was important or even curious that a skeleton should turn up on an island just southeast of where Amelia freaking Earhart was going. Neither did it strike a chord that the remains turned out to be those of a white woman with Earhart's measurements, or that they were found alongside a pocket knife, a broken cosmetics jar, a piece of glass from an airplane windshield and the same exact type of navigational system Earhart had been using
news.discovery.com/history/amelia-earhart-resting-place.html
sorry for copy & paste
US State Department funds used? Sounds like Haliburton has joined in on the search!
Aluminum can last for 100's of years with very little corrosion damage. That's one of the things that make it such a great metal for making aircraft with. Most likely it's underwater and that's why it hasn't been found yet. But it's probably out there somewhere. Things like nuts and bolts corrode away if they aren't an aluminum alloy based metal, but most of the airframe should still be in one piece if it wasn't a bad crash.
I do agree that it's a waste of tax payer money though, but if it just means sharing navy resources to launch underwater drones or borrowing side scan radar to look for it, that would be ok. But I hope it doesn't have a taxpayer paid cash budget. Hopefully that's where the private half of the deal comes in.
I thought it funny about the "Public-Private search" .... so the public privately searching? Someone please enlighten me? Thanks
I had seen one poster here that mentioned the story that was out a while a go about Earheart and the items found on an island a little off from where Earheart was supposed to land (makeup glass, nav system etc.) along with bones. I do remember when that story came out and thought the investigation was going to produce better/ more finds, but have not seen anything else mentioned up until this point here about a private search.
Would I like to know what happnened? Absolutely. Do I care that this is happening now? not really. Why? Because I am truly trying to understand what is happening around us and where this "divide" amongst Americans is going to go (perhaps another civil war?). Sad to say but there are many that are getting prepared now for "something to occur" and by "something" I am not referring to just nuclear.
It is great to focus some energy on stories such as this but if you do not focus a bit on yourself and those you love, then you may end up "out in the cold" when the "storm" comes to visit.
The State Department plans to join a new effort to find the plane of pioneering aviator Amelia Earhart, 75 years after she mysteriously disappeared over the South Pacific.
When you find the plane, please give it to the homeless as a shelter.
Your taxes at work...Priorities first. WE REALLY need to know what happened to her, right?
In regard to Sandtrich's sarcastic remark above about the Government financing this expedition to find Earheart's plane when the article plainly says that it was being financed by private funds, it is a gleaming example of how people see what they want to see.
But, she wasn't the only one. Notice, at this writing, she received 47 thumbs up. People just want to find something to be angry about and, once they do, they often dispense with logic and good sense in defending their position in regards to it. It happens all the time and really is a dangerous habit.
US government keeps finding new ways to waste our tax money. Unbelievable...
Why? Because the search will be on foreign territory and the State Department, with a single phone call, can open doors that a private organization can't..
Do we NEED to know what happened? No. But, Earhart is part of our shared history. A nation that doesn't preserve and honor its history has no future. At a time when people are worried about the loss of the "melting pot ideal", we need more things like this to remind us of our common heritage as Americans.
@sandtrich,
No, it's the Republicans who do that.
Do any of you really believe this has zero cost to taxpayers because it is billed to be a "privately funded" operation? Do you think Hillarys time is being reimbursed via private funds? Do you think all the other Federal assests being used, people, aircraft, ships, etc are being fully paid for using these private funds? The answer my friends is absolutely not. 500k is doodle squat when it comes to an operations like this. Taxpayer dollars will be spent. Take it to the bank.
To Hell with Earhart!!
They might better start looking for those holes in the fence at our southern border. They'd be a lot easier to find with a lot less effort!
I'll agree with Motz in KC, aliens, moons of Jupiter, cold fusion, etc. Sounds as plausible as any other explanation. I will add though, could we try to find Jimmy Hoffa while we're at it?? And if we are really into searching we could try to find what's left of Rick Perry's national political career or maybe Santorum's brain. (If it ever existed.)
Private funding? Hillary and the state dept must be off the clock when all of this is going on.
looks like a fine waste of money...so the joint effort...means public and private...they could hand that money to me...might has well wasted it...helping me ...it dang sure ain't gona'a help her...
Tuesday morning announcing the joint public-private search at the State Department O can read and it say public and private in this case as always we spend the bulk of the money. One Tuna looking for a another.
If it IS privately funded, what do Hillary and the State Dept. have to do with it. It is part of the Pan Pacific suck-up deal, so I really doubt it is private funds. It just used to be private funds; when it was in the pocket of private tax payers.
Jeff is right, the search may be privately funded, but I am pretty certain the people taking part that are employed by the federal government will still be drawing their federal salaries. I don't think the private funding source is going to be chipping in on their salaries.
Honestly, I think they arleady have the answer of what happened to Earheart, and even if they don't I do not see any reason to spend any federal resources on this project. IMO
I fear reader sandtrich didnt catch the following sentence.....
"The half-million-dollar search, financed with private funds, will begin in July".
I would however like a pony......
They have already looked for Amelia before, and failed. It's a waste of time. Instead, they should look for Noonan. He would know where she is. Dub! I mean, Duh!
For all of you people complain to Sandtrich to read the article...I DID read it, and guess what? It clearly read PUBLIC-PRIVATE FUNDS. Now I'm no rocket scientist, just a simple janitor, but even I can figure out that that means the government will be adding funds to the privately supplied funding.
That being said, I do think that it's a worthy endeavor. But then again, that could just be me. I've always been intrigued by the mystery of her disapearance.
I agree with jon998xxxx $500000.00 won't last but about 10minutes with the feds involved not tomention support equipment!!!! stuff ain't cheap, even to rent!!!!!!!
Krik,
I saw the documentary by the guys with Historic Plane Recovery and it was very compelling. Tragic that the bones were lost before we had the DNA diagnostics we do today.
I think Earhart and Noonan landed in the water just off Gardner Island and survived as long as they could on rain water and local flora and fauna and finally starved to death as the HPR guys speculate.
Amelia Earhart's disappearance is one of our enduring mysteries and legends and I for one welcome the new search and recovery effort. I think it is just fascinating.
I highly recommend veiwing the documentary on the HPR search and their theory regarding Gardner Island.
I first read about Amelia Earhart when I was in grade school back in the 1960's. She's one of my heros, but I don't think they will find anything. I think she was simply off course, ran out of gas & crashed into the ocean. There is simply nothing to find. I've heard some crazy theories (not just alien abduction) about her actually being a spy and being captured/shot down by the Japanese, and our gov't finding her plane but destroying it to cover up her activities (think that was on Unsolved Mysteries). I don't know why people can't accept the simplest answer; it's usually the correct answer.
As for this:
Yeah, me too. It's REALLY sad when people can't even discuss the search for Amelia Earhart without throwing in all this divisive political B.S. that has nothing to do with the article!
I saw her the other day at the supermarket. She was standing by the frozen peas. She asked me if the store brand was as good as Green Giant. She looked good. Said she was cooking supper for Elvis.
C'mon, that's ridiculous. Everybody knows the store brand of peas is just as good.
Those who make claims that they should be spending the money on things such as schools, Why don't you spend your TV money, your car money, your booze money, etc. on schools also. Set an exaple, spend money on basic food, housing, and clothing. Don't spend a thing on anything above the minimum you need to live and spend the rest on schools just like you are preaching to others.
Site Moderator Tyler , please tell me what you or someone considered offensive regarding post #1.6 and felt the need to collapse it! I was merely being facetious and was not intending to be offensive. I saw no negative comments regarding this. If I offended someone I apologise, but come on, this is stretching things a bit don't you think? There are a lot of uncollapsed commets worse than mine on here.
Do those of you thinking the state department is joining in for nothing is nuts. It has it is funded by public and private donation. We don't put this much effort into missing children.
Ed-NavDoc- Tyler and Sally or other moderators on Newsvine will delete your post but it is other posters that collapse posts. I have seen many, many collapsed posts that were in no way offensive but were collapsed by a concerted effort by trolls, plants and certain interest groups. Sometimes the moderators will restore posts for "clarity" or simply because they were not inflammatory or useless.
As far as I'm concerned if you are not offending somebody then you're just not doing it right. You do not need to apologise if you are not being rude or very nasty. Don't sweat it, collapse happens.
Actually, Sandtrich isn't that far off. The govment will prolly drop about 6 mill just to hold the press conference. Then theres all the time and wasted efforts of the state department, who's personnell will get paid to waste, so in the end, it is the taxpayers money getting wasted on a silly adventure.
Site Moderator Tyler , please tell me what you or someone considered offensive regarding post #1.6 and felt the need to collapse it! I was merely being facetious and was not intending to be offensive
Tyler does not collapse comments. People vote as "ïnflammatory"or "no value"and the system eventually collapses the comments. Tyler reads the commments and decides if they merit to get collapsed. Many times he restores them.
You welcome Tyler!
LOL I think it was a bunch of people who didn't see the movie and had NO IDEA what you were talking about.
But you've given me a chance to go to my favorite Newsvine soapbox -- collapsing comments. I think the number of comments collapsed are a failing of Newsvine itself. You see, there is an easy way to agree ... simply click the up arrow. But there is no way to easily DISAGREE. You must either report it (which is what happens) or take the time to respond. I think a down arrow would solve the problem, leaving reporting for comments truly deserving it.
Beth- I strongly agree with you. I believe that just like the profanity filter on Newsvine ( click on or off ) there should be a collapse option. Leave all posts uncollapsed for my account or do not show me collapsed comments. Comments deleted by moderators are just that, deleted and gone for everyone.
Blue .. that's a nice idea too.
Joint public-private it's all in the wording! Announcing the joint public-private search. The half-million-dollar search, financed with private funds, will begin in July. But it doesn't say how much "public" money will be used when or where. This is how our government works the media. Sheeple will say, "It's all private funded because they only mention the private funds" It's legalese, political slang, you can bet there is tax payer money involved in this. Knowing our government, if a half million in "private" funds are being used than the tax payers portion is more like 5 million to 50 million. And no, you can't prove it, it will be charged to training missions, Coast Guard costs, search and rescue, environmental impact studies, foreign relations sub-committees.
The U.S. vowed Tuesday to help solve the 75-year-old mystery of aviation legend Amelia Earhart after analysis of a photograph showed that she may have crashed in waters off a remote Pacific island. The Federal Grant given to the Discovery Channel to document the search(Private Funds) and Federal funds(public money) to assist in the search.
tw1sted,
the trouble with your observation is that this is the South Pacific - not the North Atlantic
and if the plane went down in fairly shallow water - nope not overly frigid
however someone else made a comment that part of the plane was made of aluminum - in which case it is entirely possible that pieces of evidence may still remain to be found
anyhowz if it doesn't cost the American taxpayers a single dime - why not go for it
but knowing the federal government (regardless of party) they will figure out a way to throw at least a couple mil at it or more
then of course the former first lady's secret service detail doesn't come all that cheap either - a rather touching connection though
and if Amelia and Noonan were on a spy mission for the US - they deserve not to be left behind
Ed-NavDoc - not to worry they obviously didn't see National Treasure: Book of Secrets - bless their collective hearts ;-)
Cool
I agree. She should be at least be found. The airplane should be found. Bring some closure to her achievements.
Not cool, why is the defence secretary involved in a search like this? I hope this is not part of her job description, and the reason why we pay taxes for her to protect us ( I know its privately funded). Don't see anything to do with defence here. It should be found, but by some archaeologists or someone from the Discovery channel.
Secretary of Defense? What? Hillary Clinton is Secretary of State..NOT DEFENSE. BIG DIFFERENCE. You really need a civics lesson if your voting and don't know this stuff. It is part of her job. Anything that involves foreign diplomacy is part of her job. Do you think these islands are US territories? She is there cause the State Department was behind Earharts attempt to fly around the world. This is a celebration of the 75th anniversary of this and is being billed as a Pan Pacific celebration. Do you recall the President recently placing more emphasis on the Pacific? Well, I would expect this is a chance to bring attention to some of the area as well.
Phenomenal112----Where in the article did it say the Secretary of State would be involved in the search? The rest of your comment is so messed up. Learn who is who in our Government.
To all those that think this is a waste of time, and that the soft and the sos should not get involved, you have to understand there are more history buffs out there than you think. They want answers, not speculations. We know the Titanic went down, so why did we bother going there and checking out all causes, and we came to a conclusion on what brought down the invincible. There are no conclusions, since there is no plane or body as evidence. People want to know. This is now a historical issue, in that the time span puts it up there with not just curiosity, but factual answers. That's what we used for all unexplained phenomenons. Let them do their thing, find the plane, and get viable answers. This is not something that will be swept under the rug. I personally think the plane is in the ocean, and the body is in the bellies of primal humans, who don't believe eating humans is wrong, but a way to possess their souls. At least in my opinion this is a just cause.
The biggest benefit to finding the Titanic is that it verified eye-witness accounts about the ship breaking in half, which were discounted at the time of the official investigation (probably to avoid liability lawsuits). They STILL don't know why the ship sank - hit by an iceberg? Scraping the iron rivets & creating thousands of punctures? It's interesting, but I think we've already gotten all we can out of it. Same with Amelia Earhart. IF they find anything of the plane, it would rule out the silly "alien abduction," but I'm not sure it would stop speculation that she was spying on the Japanese, or even tell us anything that we don't already know - which is she was off-course and crashed into the ocean. If they've got the money for the search, then go for it! Good luck, hope you find something.
Sorry, BUT the evidence that the Titanic hit an iceberg is pretty well documented both by the evidence from the dives AND the testimony from the survivors. They also found that the Steel used in her hull was brittle and the rivets DID pop out. The basic design was also flawed as the "water tight compartments did NOT extend far enough up which allowed flooding into adjoining compartments.
The FINAL tragedy was that the standards of the day did NOT require sufficient lifeboats for all the passengers, there had been NO lifeboat drill and the captain waited far to long to order the ship to be abandoned. The Captain had ALSO ignored warnings of Ice Bergs along his route and was travelling too fast in a desire to set a "new" record.
Whenever a United States based organization gets involved with things in another country, the State Department has at least a little involvement in the activity, if only to make sure that passports are issued. Whether it is missionary work, commercial activity, tourism or even special projects like this, there will be some State Department activity.
i really hope they find where they landed...
Got to believe the Japanese were tracking her flight, and probably concluded it was a spy mission. At the least they would have not wanted her to report on Japanese presence in the South Pacific.
1937. I doubt anybody was really tracking anybody. Mabe they were following her in drones.
Alien abduction
Shot down by the Japanese? That would make a hell of a story, but it's not likely though. This was a few years before the first radar stations could track airplanes from any distance.
The Japanese were probably able to listen in on the voice comm and could have tracked her that way, but there would have been no reason to shoot her down anyway since she was so famous at the time and probably would have been popular if she had visited Japan.
Previous to the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Japanese showed no sign of aggression to the USA and I don't think the Japanese would have been that stupid to shoot down Earhart and tip off the USA that it is an agressor. So the idea that the Japanese would intentionally shoot down Earhart at that time really doesn't make sense. Not impossible, but very unlikely.
Also, this was 4 years before Pearl Harbor and the USA was not at war in Europe and diplomatic relations with Japan were healthy.
Didn't say she was shot down, only that she was probably tracked. By the end of the 30's the Japanese were occupying French Indochina. The whole South Pacific was being scouted as a present or future war zone. The Japanese certainly had coast watchers in New Guinea and could calculate her probable course when she took off.
Just saying they might save a nickle by first searching the Japanese pre-war military archives in Tokyo.
She's dead dead dead dead dead dead dead. Did I say dead? How about waste of time time time time. Money money money money.
It ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't government money or your tax dollars. If some private foundation wants to spend their own money on historical research, let 'em break break break break break break a leg! Go go go go go go go for it!
i cant wait to see the results of the search. i really enjoyed a recent program on the subject, it was on cable.
I strongly suspect that Dean (and sandtrich) are those government handout welfare types that think that if anyone else has a surplus of cash that they should give it to them, and that anything else is wasteful. :D
Dean.....Dean.....Dean.....Dean.....It is not your money....money.....money.....money.....or your time.....time.....time.....tlime....It is private......private.....private.....private.....money.....money.....money.....money....
No she's not, she never came back down to earth. She got high up there in that plane. She flew too high and she can't come down, do you read her? Do you read her over, do you read her, read her, read her?
do we really need to spend money on this...?
Can't you read or maybe you didn't, it says private donations.
We are not. Private funds are being used. I would love it if they would find the plane and unravel the mystery.
They tried many times. This is almost entirely pointless.
You betcha, there's absolutely nothing going on right now, no siree Bob. It's not like the Secretary of State is busy, not with Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, the Euro crisis, Africa, Venezuela, the Mexican drug cartels, the Canadians (never trust'em), Korea, China...(stop me when I've filled up her dance card) that she doesn't have the time to pull this @!$%# out of her ass to waste time, no siree Bob. Oh did I leave out anything...?
they are using the money saved from not teaching tomi the basics of reading comprehension
The plane was probably overfilled with boxes of cash from the CIA heading to the Taliban, before all the problems of course.
You're seriously complaining about $500,000? Even if it wasn't privately funded, the federal government spends more than that on toothpicks.
$500,000 may not be a lot of money,but the problem is the $500,000 gets stacked on top of other payments which adds up to a lot of money.
I think that the real problem for Tomi is that Tomi isn't getting any of the money. :D
Okay. Perspective here. If this were public funded, my middle class income taxes would pay for a full 5% of this expedition. Just me alone. Wow. People will complain about anything.
I read this as a "joint public and private" venture. I just hope the actual cash is the private part. But not sure about that. It would be a waste of tax payer money. But if the Navy can incorporate this project into an exercise for the crew, then it's cool.
I really hope they do not spend any tax money on this.
@ carl; Helps if you read the article
Juding by this vine, many do not care atoll!! sorry I coudnt resist.
Good one Coral.
they are using the money saved from not teaching carl the basics of reading comprehension
agreed - coral wins!
Thumbs up Coral - but with the lack of reading comprehension that seems to be rampant, it is going to go over the heads of 90% of readers.
Hell, not like you could find any of your tax dollars anyway, the government does not even know who has your money.
I think that carl is another member of the gimme some of that free money crowd. :D
Knight,
They might find a shrubbery.
a shrubbery would be nice, thank you very much.
but please, no bush
Hello sandtrich, sambolo and RT in Colorado go whine somewhere else would ya? This is a privately funded event! We got it, gas prices are high the economy is slow, but I think it would be cool if they found her plane. If you want to whine and complain about this, then why don't you get off of your ass, stop waiting for a handout and ask yourself what you can do to help the country instead of picking an article like this to complain, @!$%#ing losers.
There's no more tax money to spend, so don't worry about it.
All our tax money was already spent and gone long ago....can you even remember the last time the US had a balanced budget and followed up on it......the only money the US Government now has to spend is borrowed (debt) money, they use our taxes to make the debt payments that will probably never pay off the balance due....it's like you and me having a $1 million credit card balance with 20% interest and only making the minimum payment every month....how long do you think that can go on for?
WHY????? If private!!!!!! parties want to do this ----fine---but not my money (govt) involved!
Joint public-private it's all in the wording! Announcing the joint public-private search. The half-million-dollar search, financed with private funds, will begin in July. But it doesn't say how much "public" money will be used when or where. This is how our government works the media. Sheeple will say, "It's all private funded because they only mention the private funds" It's legalese, political slang, you can bet there is tax payer money involved in this. Knowing our government, if a half million in "private" funds are being used than the tax payers portion is more like 5 million to 50 million. And no, you can't prove it, it will be charged to training missions, Coast Guard costs, search and rescue, environmental impact studies, foreign relations sub-committees.
say it was being privately funded...
joint public-private
this goes along with the gov't 2 million dollar grant to see if frogs can wear/use wooden teeth.
What about "privately funded" do you not understand?
they are using the money saved from not teaching jp the basics of reading comprehension
The joint part.
That wont last a day,
then the public part will kick in.
This story's dead. like the unfortunate pilot. Let it go.
The Titanic, and a thousand of her passengers are dead. Should we NOT have searched for her wreckage? The legend and lore surrounding the disappearance of this flight adds to the intrigue of this PRIVATELY-FUNDED project.
Personally, I think that Earhart and Noonan are alive and living in Argentina with Elvis!
Not for nothing but I'm pretty sure they have already examined the Titanic wreckage.
OF COURSE they have! My point EXACTLY! But, in retrospect. . .should we NOT have searched? Should we have left "well enough" alone? Should we have left the Titanic to rest in peace? Geez! Were it not for the discovery of the Titanic, they couldn't have built that museum on the "strip" in Branson, Missouri!
mastersvoice, what happened to the Titanic was not really a big mystery considering that there were survivors to tell the tale. So comparing these two cases is similar to comparing apples and oranges.
I think the point that people are trying to make is that there are a lot of problems in this world and if someone has half a million dollars to waste, there are probably better ways to do it.
Demar.. I think mastervoice's point is that; It's not a waste to the only people that matter, the people paying for it.
It's their money to do with what they wish, just like you wish to spend your money on beer. As what has been said before, they are searching in an area controlled by a foreign country so the State Department is a help there just as it would be a help to you if you wish to travel to a foreign country such as Mexico.
What a waste of time & money! Most likely she sleeps with the fishes on the bottom of the Pacific & will never be located. She was a notoriously poor pilot who was kept in the public eye by her super-promoter husband. That our govt. is involved with this is an outrage.
You're outraged? About searching for the wreckage of the airplane? That makes you mad?
What part of "private funds" do you not understand?
Again the government was involved in 1937. Guess which part of our government was involved. THE STATE DEPARTMENT. It deals with foreign affairs. She was attempting to fly around the world as a US citizen with US state department backing. Man, I'd swear by all these type of responses people make they have never ever been outside this country or used a US consulate in a foreign country.
Whats outragoeus is your screen name and your faux outrage. But hey it's your right to be all messed up about this. sorry dude.
I read this story because I like history and any light shed on it benefits us all, and 2) to see how many TPers showed up to protest money spent on anything by anyone, for any reason. I wasn't disappointed. Previous comments already pointed out the article states the search is privately funded.
Fame seeking bimbo flies plane, dies. End of story. Oh, no, it is the age of women and Hillary has to resurrect her!
Please. TIGHAR has been conducting this research since 1998. Hillary has nothing to do with it. Learn to read.
Hey Son, were you all Marines? If so, that would be a lot of CorpsVets in your family. No disrespect intended. Thank you for your service.
Son
Does Rush Limpba know about this? Let him know, he will be able to use up three days fantasizing about your bimbo.
This would be great to finally find out where the plane went down. It was great when they found the Titanic, too. Nice to look back and see what happened.
Yeah, like it wasnt the titanic but her sister ship the olympia that had been damaged and was unrepairable.
@ Thomas... What? The "Olympic" served for many years after the loss of "Titanic."
I was referring to the fact the Titanic was not located until 1985.
Dudes and Dudettes (it could be a real word, I don't know), you don't seriously think they are looking for Amelia ? Oh no, they are up to something, oh yes. The Chinese have been working very hard to get a truly "blue water" navy. They are upgrading their surface fleet with specific anti-air stealth design frigates, they are currently in sea trails with their new aircraft carrier, and they are working on a getting their MiG-29 flight crews carrier qualified. The thing the Chinese don't have and need desperately is a mid-point base in the Pacific to support operations there. And we have countered their move with the ultimate strategy...Chuck Norris has been inserted on the island and he's waiting on those sneaky commies. For all we know he's already there and the Amelia story is a clumsy cover story designed to throw the media off. Oh yeah...that's the ticket. Chuck Norris on a lush tropical island with beautiful island women helping him hide from the day and night commie patrols...but Chuck won't let us down...he'll stop the commies, avert World War III, dazzles the gals...and accidentally find Amelia who has been living the ascetic life of an island monk who has discovered a truly inexpensive alternative fuel derived from seawater.
Can we vote her a subsidy for the seawater fuel?
Chinese J-15s equal Russian Federation SU-33, not MiG-29s. The PLAN Shi Lang is operational so are the Hypersonic Anti Aircraft Carrier Missiles she is armed with, specifically designed to kill USN Aircraft Carriers after evading USN screening ships and countermeasures, same with the Chinese Stealth Ships (Frigates, Destroyers, Light Cruisers, etc.) that they are cranking out as fast as possible.
What the hell? Don't the Chinese have enough bar-b-que joints over there so as not to envade the US to get a good sliced pork sandwich. And, I don't want them peeping on women wearing next to nothing on US beaches either. Let them go fight India.
What a totally wasteful and expensive excercise in futility!
The lady crashed, didn't make it, and is gone -- get over it!!
There are literally hundreds of missing kids, right here in ths Country -- look for them!!!!!
Amelia Earhart is an intriguing part of American history and culture. She deserves to be found. Their are plenty of private organizations that help missing children. This private organization is helping to find Amelia Earhart.
"wasteful and expensive" how exactly is it wasteful? do you realize that the ~private funds~ being used will pay for equipment and fuel, and create jobs? in a recession, every little bit helps.
as to the other missing kids: this is being spearheaded by the International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery; missing kids in the USA are not their focus.
I think it's too late to search for her now.
Wouldn,t be much left of the plane, specially if it crashed in the Salty Pacific,even on an island,the Salty air would make alot of anything metal unrecognizable, at the most if they found SOMETHING, that it came from SOME PLANE, back in those days many planes went down with mechanical problems, plus its in an area that was very active from 1941 to 1945,they wouldn,t be able to tell if its from a Lockheed or from a Zero or from a Hellcat, etc,etc,etc, the parts are going to be soooooo coroded
Actually what you claim about the airplane is TOTALLY untrue; They have found very recognizable military planes that crashed into the ocean during WW2 and the claim about not being able to tell the difference or the make and model of the aircraft is completely bogus. Go get an education BEFORE making a fool of yourself.
sonofavetvetfatherofvets, Really? bimbo?
What the hell is wrong with people like you?
What's wrong with our daughters having women to look up to?
Seriously? What is wrong with you?
Time to grow up.
Actually, Amelia was a pretty smart Cookie. . .and kinda "hot" to boot. Kinda like a 1930's version of Danica Patrick. Hhhhhot!
Too bad she didn't fly better than Danica drives.
Amelia Earhart was an EXCELLENT pilot and had set MANY world records; Before looking like a complete Buffoon ( Probably too late for you), you should go check the record books about her exploits as a pilot.
Too bad your mother didn't learn about birth control soon enough.
Excuse me ? did you say "Japs" ? Did you mean to say "Imperial Japanese Forces" ?
I for one am not a lover of the use of ethnic slurs.
reported
NO OMG NO!! You didn't report JAP did you?? I used capital letters and everything!! I love JAPS Michael! Now stop spinning your little liberal head & love JAPS with me.
reported and marked as inflamatory
Lets go back up to post 1.5 knight & post 5.5 then throw stones. Or is that the typical liberl do as I say not as I do?? JAP
Well Knight? Your silence is deafening. It is OK for you to attack anyone you please due to your perception of their lack of education? Come on little liberal justify your attacks.
One has to see the lack of reading comprehension from many of these posts. I'd say Knight spoke truth to the matter. By the way, whuck, your "little liberal" slur IS a violation.
That's correct. They got her. That is the 1 of the original outcomes of fate.
i'm actually a card-carrying member of the National Party, so assuming that you are a bloody yank, yer labels don't mean much to me.
let's see, how many of my newvine posts have ever been deleted for violation of the site's terms of use [or for any other reason].... that would be zero.
some of us can play by the rules. some are just jerks. the frothy tauntings of the local bully mean nothing to me.
19 deleted, Scott-921969 beginning a derail. No need for the slur, it's 2012. You're suspended for a day for violating #5 of the Code of Honor. Borderline, because you're referring to a time period when 'Japs' was in common usage, but you're still calling Japanese people that - even if they're not present-day Japanese people.
whuck and nascarlifer, if you're going to defend use of a slur, better not to call names while doing it.
whuck, you're suspended for a week for violating #1 and #5 of the Code of Honor.
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nascarlifer banned, multiple of chalkboarddust1, 24paws-896188, 24paws-2524740, 24paws-447478, all also banned.
Don't register multiple accounts!
Thank you Sheriff
Well now you certainly tell the difference between a single engine(Zero, Hellcat) and a twin engine Lockheed Electra even after all these years.
I think she stole the plane and the Lindbergh baby and flew to Australia
Current thinking by the liberals will have you believe its Bush's fault.
bush is too stupid to pull anything like this off.
Geewhiz, let her rest in peace, already!
I think I read that Miss Hillary Clinton and Ray La Hood were involved in the search.... Also they said it was only going to cost a half million to conduct said search! I say BS!! It'll cost a half Million for those Democrats to fly there. Once they are there they will have to form a couple of committees to pursue their options... The cost will rise like the FNG Space shuttle used to.... Jest sayin
Miss Hillary Clinton?? I knew it wouldn't last after Monica
I miss Miss Humadoor.
Mrs. Clinton and Ray La Hood (a Republican in the Obama cabinet) are going to announce the search in a joint broadcast from the State Department - they are not participating in the actual search.
So, early in the article we see this:
but later on that statement is contradicted:
So how are public funds involved, and who voted to approve said expenditure?
The public funds do not kick in until day 2 of the search, from there on out, only public funds will be used.
Sophisticated sonar - can you say "Navy"? I seriously doubt that this is going to be 100% privately funded. My guess is that there will be military vessels involved. Or, perhaps the "Joint" part was smoked by Hillary and Ray?
Don't "confuse" them with facts Confused. They appear to really enjoy the ignorant bliss they exhibit on blogs like this.
AS an aside, I really think if the fng secofstate and the Fng secoftrans are involved its costing Fng taxpayers Fng big Fng time..... NOME SANE NIGGAH!!!!!!!!!!