Tornado alerts follow flooding in southern states

Rod Aydelotte / Waco Tribune Herald via AP

Flash flooding in Waco, Texas, on Tuesday tore up this intersection near downtown.

Updated at 11:40 a.m. ET: A storm system that dumped up to a foot of rain in parts of Louisiana, causing isolated flash flooding, is now threatening to spawn tornadoes there and in Mississippi, the National Weather Service warned.

Large hail and wind gusts up to 70 mph were also possible in parts of both states through Wednesday night.

Flash floods were reported earlier in Louisiana, Arkansas and eastern Texas in the wake of "widespread heavy rain" on Tuesday and overnight.

"Some roads are already flooded and closed ... and additional heavy rainfall will continue to produce more flash flooding" in northwest Louisiana, the National Weather Service stated. "This is an extremely dangerous situation."


In Natchitoches, La., an apartment complex was flooded and the Cane River Lake, which flows through the city, was well over its banks in downtown.

Chris Dolce, a meteorologist with weather.com, said that a "significant flood threat is unfolding across the south-central states."

Dolce cited Shreveport, La., Fort Smith, Ark. and Little Rock, Ark., as among the cities in the threat zone.

Rain and thunderstorms will target the Texas Panhandle, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi and western Tennessee Wednesday.

In Little Rock, police set up barriers in several flooded city streets Wednesday morning.

Dolce advised motorists to not attempt to drive on flooded roadways. "Roughly two-thirds of flood-related deaths occur in vehicles," he added.

Mark Ressler, lead meteorologist with The Weather Channel, said that up six inches of rain was likely across Arkansas and Louisiana.

Strong thunder
In central Arkansas, strong winds Tuesday afternoon caused extensive damage in the town of Morrilton and contributed to at least one injury when a tree fell on a home, authorities said.

Officials in southeast Kansas also closed several bridges, and workers in Missouri shut down a rural roadway after rain sparked flash flooding there. In Arkansas and Oklahoma, the Forest Service has closed campsites in low-lying areas to avoid another catastrophe like the flash flood that killed 20 people at a remote campground in 2010.

Storms rattled Tulsa, Okla., Tuesday morning with thunder so strong that it registered on seismic equipment.

Meteorologist Pete Snyder felt his home shake and several concerned residents called the National Weather Service to ask if there had been an earthquake.

"We have seen quite a bit of thunder on all of our seismic stations across the state," said Austin Holland, a research seismologist with the Oklahoma Geological Survey. "We can confidently say there were no earthquakes large enough to be widely felt."

On Tuesday, record highs were set in dozens of central and eastern cities, from International Falls, Minn., on the Canadian border to Lexington, Ky., in the South, according to the National Weather Service.

In Chicago, the high at O'Hare International Airport reached 85 degrees Fahrenheit, smashing the previous record of 76 degrees set in 1921, according to Accuweather.com.

Tuesday was the official first day of spring, even though with mild weather in much of the country, it seems to many that Mother Nature may have skipped a season. Guest host Matt Miller reports.

It was the sixth day in the past seven that temperatures in Chicago reached 80 degrees or more. Brian Edwards, a meteorologist at AccuWeather.com, said the warmth was likely to linger into next week across much of the country.

"It looks like things will continue like this for several more days and then trend downward a little bit as we go into the weekend," Edwards said. "But even next week, temperatures will still be well above normal." 

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Am I only one who is greatly amused by the fact that the effects of Climate Change are hitting the Red States ten times as hard as the Blue States? Who says there is no justice?

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#1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:35 AM EDT
Comment author avatarMiketheDExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Climate change? It's a storm. We have had them since the dawn of time.

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#1.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:42 AM EDT

Seriously, you have lost touch of reality. You dont travel the world, let alone the US, much do you? Those "Red States" have always had weather issues...even before your beloved "Blue" Party existed. What a political moron...We should ask what we can do to better the world...and in cases like this, help those in need and not mock them. Idiot.

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#1.2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:43 AM EDT

I almost typed a political response... Instead I will say, let's be prepared to pitch in and help our neighbors if they need it. Keep the sometimes faltering humanitarian spirit alive in the face of divided rhetoric!

By the way, I will help my fellow man no matter how they vote. How about you Mike Lane?

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#1.3 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:15 AM EDT

Mike, please look up the definitions of these two words: Climate & Weather.

Once you are confident you know the distinction between the two, feel free to come back and provide an intelligent comment.

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#1.4 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:19 AM EDT

The rains come and the rains go.

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#1.5 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:35 AM EDT

We're kind of enjoying it where I am. We didn't get our usual Spring storms last Spring and it sure made for a dry Summer.

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#1.6 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:19 AM EDT

Mike Lane...Seriously you wish people ill because you don't care for the politics of their State. Next thing you know you will be praying that God heap some great disaster to eliminate your political rivals. As for me...I truly hope that people are aware of possible flooding and take whatever precautions they need to stay safe. Most of us, who have lived in this area know what to do and not to do to stay safe. like picking up in the yard or keeping the trees trimmed in the event of a tornado. Staying indoors when there is thunder and lightening. Not driving through high water if you are not familiar with the route you are driving. Keep your animals in during severe weather. If the weather is severe or flooding is expected....bring the kids home from school before it gets serious. Watch the sky if the possibility for tornados exist. etc...

Personally, I welcome the rain even if it brings a natural threat. Honestly, when it is nature v. man, nature always wins. I spent last week traveling the beautiful state of Texas and saw the rewards of rain first hand. The blue bonnets were just mezmerizing from Houston to the Hill Country. It was very easy to see what died in the drought but a certain spiritual high to see what survived and the natural rebirth that spring brings. There is even water flowing in the creek on the family property to the point where the waterfall is alive and well. We are now past drought status and to the point where nature is filling the springs and lakes to get us through a long hot summer.

I do hope that people in the wake of these storms use common sense and take care of themselves, their loved ones and their pets...with the knowledge that in the South if you need help your neighbors will help you..If you see someone in need and you are able you step up and lend a hand....that is, after all, how our mama's us.

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#1.7 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:54 AM EDT

Record snows last winter and record heat in 2000 locations across the US this winter bringing record storms...You're right, there is no climate changed and even if there is it's not caused by man and even if it is jesus is going to come back and save all of the faithful and create a brand new Earth...

So you see? Nothing to see here. Just keep moving.

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#1.8 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:22 AM EDT

The Red States are getting a sample of the effects of global warming. Perhaps they get scare enough, and write to their lunatic Republican representatives in congress to do something about the polluters they lobby for, and work for the benefit of the people for a change.

Obama 2012!!!

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#1.9 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:00 AM EDT

If you are truly amused by the suffering,the sir you are indeed an IDIOT!!!!!

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#1.10 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:20 AM EDT

Mike Lane, let's hope you are the only one amused and that there are not many other people so spiteful and hateful.

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#1.11 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:27 AM EDT

Well, Climate Change was always going to hurt the south more:

*) The rapidly rising acidity in the oceans [due to increasing CO2 concentration] will kill the fishing industry. Remember the economic losses due to a localized oil leak? Apply that across the entire country. A few hundred Billion per year in yearly losses right there

*) Farming, obviously, becomes a major problem, as both heat and weather changes will cause significant economic losses. And thats BEFORE you take into account any changes in behavior by wildlife [insects especialy]

*) Increased power [and possibly frequency] of server weather systems, which will cost several billion per year in infastructure damages

So yeah, its only fair the south is the first to pay when the full effects of climate change come forth.

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#1.12 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:27 AM EDT

Global warming? BS! It is currently 45 degrees here in Tucson, Arizona! Temperatures below normal all week. Had SNOW on Sunday!

Did anyone watch the tennis tournament in Palm Springs last weekend? Wind rain and temps in the 50s!

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#1.13 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:30 AM EDT

be prepared to pitch in and help our neighbors if they need it.

You must be a democrat, because conservatives call helping anyone "welfare".

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#1.14 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:55 AM EDT

The Red States are getting a sample of the effects of global warming. Perhaps they get scare enough, and write to their lunatic Republican representatives in congress to do something about the polluters they lobby for, and work for the benefit of the people for a change.

Either you are joking or you are completely ignorant of mid west and southern weather patterns.

This is NORMAL!!! P.S. Way to bigot up the story.

    #1.15 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

    Rusty 22 - I can't speak for the rest of the country, but we have been 30 - 35 degrees above normal where I live for over a week. I think today makes 8 or 9 consecutive days of record highs. I live in the north and am going to cut my grass tonight, March 21st!

    I am not a proponent of 'global warming', but the last few weeks (and for that matter, the mildest winter ever recorded) have definitely been weird...

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    #1.16 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

    Mike Lane, funny I remember some storms and flooding hitting blue states last year. Sorry we forgot to gloat and turn that political.

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    #1.17 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:09 PM EDT

    .

      #1.18 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

      You sensless dumb butts DO realize that there ARE people in the RED states that vote democrat, Right???

      And we wonder why hate crimes happen...........!!!!!!!!!!

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      #1.19 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:58 PM EDT

      There are more democrats registered in Kentucky than Republicans, they jsut dont bother to vote!

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      #1.20 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

      TXHorseman....good point...although for the most part Texas Democrats are a different more practical breed than many in other states....those wishing for our demise probably don't even know that the Mayor of one of our largest cities is a Lesbian and so much more as she was also the most qualified candidate in the Mayoral race that year.

        #1.21 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:24 PM EDT

        TXHorseman and txmom32...

        That's all true. The Dems here are hold-overs from way back when the Democratic party was one to be looked up to.

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        #1.22 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:33 PM EDT

        Big Tex...yea...from back in the days when Perry was a Democrat.

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        #1.23 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:39 PM EDT
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        Comment author avatardiana-1091347Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        My question is WHY this young man's death at the hands of a gun toting nieborhood watch person is not in jail for gunning down a boy? It is in my opinion that the police in the state of Fl. are not doing their job to protect and serve, And I am outraged at the justice system, it is going to take a grand jury to look at the evidence when it is so very clear this man was not being attacked in any way shape or form, so lock his butt up and give this family justice for the death of their son.

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        Reply#2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:08 AM EDT

        Wrong forum? This is about weather.

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        #2.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:44 AM EDT

        Maybe the gun toting person was mad about the flooding in Louisiana.

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        #2.2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:00 AM EDT
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        diana, unless the gun toting neighborhood watch person was Al Gore, you are posting at the wrong story thread.

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        Reply#3 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:06 AM EDT

        Pride and Joy has the wrong name, the gun toting neighborhood watchman was George Bush. There is nothing to be proud or joyful about him.

        Obama 2012!!

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        #3.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:12 AM EDT

        When you cant think of anything to say that makes any sense at all just blame Bush for Obama failures.

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        #3.2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:10 PM EDT

        RAIN = Bush's fault

        FLOODING = Bush's fault

        UNEMPLOYMENT = Bush's fault

        OIL PRICES = Bush's fault

        BUDGET DEFICIT DOUBLED FROM BUSH'S ALREADY GIGANTIC ONE = BUSH'S FAULT

        NEW PRESIDENT IN 2013 = BUSH'S FAULT

          #3.3 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:09 PM EDT
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          Everyone's mind is made up on this issue it seems, nothing anyone says will alter another's view. All I can say is the weather patterns are so extreme to me, all the old farmers sayings although not 100% accurate but mostly true do not hold true anymore. Yes go ahead and laugh. According to legend, with our thunderstorm we had a couple days ago our first frost should be in July/August. A bad thing if you like to eat food.

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          Reply#4 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:38 AM EDT

          I agree; the farmers almanac is generally quite accurate but also has had it's abruptions in the past. Our climate is always going to change, and on a very large scale goes through it's warming and cooling periods in various regions, sometimes on the global scale.

          But, none of us have been around long enough to determine whether there's a change of grand scale eventually coming or some of these extremes in weather are the coming of a slight adjustment, appearing to us to seem severe because it doesn't take much, really, to disturb weather patterns and see some that is more or less extreme. The farmer's almanac has been around for a few centuries and again, somewhat remarkable on it's accuracy and has accounted for fluctuations in weather/seasons. It will likely hold true again as cited in my earlier comment about 'blips' as some is always unexpected. But, even a few centuries isn't enough to gage by..... it's not even a blink in Earth's time frame history. Billions of years vs. a few hundred or a thousand years........

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          #4.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:29 AM EDT

          Dear Moderation - great motto, but not helpful on this issue as humans have not been behaving moderately. If you want to learn about climatic history start reading the extensive research on ice cores. Here is a start

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          #4.2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:39 AM EDT

          The problem lies in that ice core samples show varied levels of CO2 and while coring for these fossilized or frozen tropical fauna and animals have been also found. Granted, some is believed to be from millions and some billions of years ago, but conjecture remains as to how these polar regions recieved biological material that would never have been able to exist at the poles.

          There are reputed scientists that do agree humans have an impact on the Earth; common sensically, we must.... everything that lives does. And of course we emit Co2 from fossilized fuels. At the same time, one massive volcanic blast or a series of them could and would dwarf what we put out into the atmosphere over time. Some would say the difference between that and human activity is intentional vs. that which can't be controlled.

          My point would be not go extremist one way or the other; we can't work on cleaner technologies while not working because of offshoring jobs in order to 'go green' all at once, hence polluting the planet worse by offshoring jobs to nations and even entire continents that pollute worse than we ever would.

          Would we have kept our jobs here, our production and thus a strong American economy we would be eons ahead of where we are; most on the green bandwagon don't seem to understand that it takes money to move ahead and other than continued borrowing, Americans don't have it. Two wrongs don't make a right, so a false corporate sell out attempt at correcting the continued use of only fossil fuels while not working on cleaner technologies doesn't equate to alarmist reactions and continued selling out of our economy; we'll NOT be able to work on clean technologies as we've no money to do so.

          Those that do in the end believe humans are causing weather pattern changes which may or may not equate to overall climate change should be pushing the hardest for jobs to come home as America not only needs the money to once again be great but also the best chance at being in the forefront to change and develop clean technologies. We need what we currently have to live, we depend on what we currently know and have; no matter what any's beliefs are on blame for climate change, if it's happening or not, the answer points to one..... shoving it to the other side of the Earth and remaining broke helps none.

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          #4.3 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:10 AM EDT

          I should add that I'd hold true what ice core samples reveal about ancient Earth history, though it's got to be prevailing trends, those that have held true before human animals roamed. Uncertainty revolves about accuracy of what most scientists consider 'recent'.... 10's of thousands of years, as weight of ice, cyclical changes as well as the sun, periodic 'rogue' weather trends, etc.. have led them to believe that ice core is really accurate pertaining to periods of time that again, humans haven't even existed long enough to become part of the equation for.

          El Nina and El Nino have much to do with prevailing weather shifts as deep oceanic currents, noteably in the Atlantic as well as prevailing upper atmospheric winds shift these. Oceanic quakes, especially depthly ones, will alter the oceanic currents also changing water temps, thus prevailing winds and weather patterns. We've had a bit of those in the past decade. Oceanic volcanism as well as the activity in the ring of fire islands.

          In past decades, atomic bomb testing was done in... of all places... oceanic fault lines, in the Reagan years betwixt us and Russia. Certainly in retrospect likely not a great idea.

          Also, remember; it's an election year. While floods are floods and will happen, depending on which news site visited there will be some slanting. Recently there's been more focus on anything that may be considered racial, religious and other dividing factors and depending on which divide some wish to support are emotive and will sway many in public opinion that has little to do with reality and truth.

          I see this year as a wash as both parties are failures through and through as America continues to fail. I also see this year as being another year of some weather extremes and no matter politics of any in any state I wish all safety and if it does happen where I reside I'll do what I can to help, to support. I'd also go back to my first posting, as there really has to be a better way in today's day and age to utilize these waters...

            #4.4 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

            CO2 has been 20% higher in the past, ocean levels have been several meters higher and lower also

            The only thing constant is change.

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            #4.5 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:01 PM EDT
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            pray people pray...those of you not depending on fairy tales and a faceless god should stay out of low areas instead...

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            Reply#5 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:51 AM EDT

            Proud to be a bigot?

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            #5.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:01 PM EDT
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            cadyciciDeleted

            i thought those states were in a drought ??

              Reply#7 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:25 AM EDT

              spiceman....this is how it works....summers are typically hot and dry...spring brings necessary rain to eliminate the dryness and refill the creeks, lakes and underground water supply....Drought is a temporary state of being.

              Funny thing Rick-546746...Once Rick Perry had his prayer meeing in Houstion and got folks to pray the rain it rained. Go figure it could have been coincidence but then again...maybe there is something to faith and beliveing in a force greater than man. Glad to see that you are reminding non believers to exercise caution though.

                #7.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:03 AM EDT

                Txmom - you are a complete moron. After Rick Perry and the Neo-Conservative taliban of Texas had their rally for rain....they got WILDFIRES.

                idiot.

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                #7.2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:17 AM EDT

                A big chunk of Texas REMAINS in a drought. I reside in West Texas where we had less than six inches of rain in 2011. This year has not started out much better. While the remainder of the state is enjoying average or above-average rains, we've had a couple of lonely sprinkles.

                To say "drought is a temporary state of being" may be accurate, but it seems rather flip. Tanks, wells and other water sources are either dry or almost dry. There are communities running out of water and ag producers whose livelihoods are threatened. Many communities, including my own, are deep into conservation measures.

                Texas is a huge state. The drought may be negated in the eastern portion of Texas, but there are many of us who remain parched and desperate for some nice spring thunderstorms.

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                #7.3 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:36 AM EDT

                greg please...the wildfires were blazing well before the prayer meeting...and well after the prayer meeting we had rain in Houston and the rains have continued to bring us out of the drought and we are now storing for the hot season again......So sorry you don't deal in fact before you post.

                Sherilew...West Texas is historically a drought area usually receiving only 8 to 16 inches of rain a year

                http://web2.airmail.net/danb1/annualrainfall.htm

                To say "drought is a temporary state of being" may be accurate, but it seems rather flip.

                Yes well when speaking to those who would wish us ill for political differences it seemed fitting to let them know that we are not failing in Texas....in fact many of the areas that were droughted are out of drought status or on the way to out of drought status. Unfortunately, the Big Bend area of Texas is not the same as the Hill Country or the Piney Woods or even the Coastal grass land areas.

                Personally, I'm loving the rain and thunderstorms and even though we are doing fine I welcome all the conservation measures necessary to outlast the next dry spell.

                  #7.4 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:02 PM EDT
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                  La la la la-There is no climate change..La la la la la la la la la.... (fingers in ears, head in hole in the ground.)

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                  Reply#8 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:29 AM EDT

                  Yes dear, it's changing from Winter to Spring.

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                  #8.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:31 AM EDT

                  Has anything unusual happened? Nope.

                    #8.2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

                    80 degrees in Chicago during a hwole week in march? Unusual.

                    Snow in San Diego? Unusual.

                    Twice as many tornados as there normally are by this time of year. Unusual.

                    How many more examples from just this week do you need?

                      #8.3 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:18 PM EDT

                      A "whole" week... oops. Got distracted and didn't proofread in time to catch it.

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                      #8.4 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:59 PM EDT
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                      cadyciciDeleted

                      there has been high winds and cloudy skies lately here in southeast louisiana. rainy days are likely to come here soon. don't like the bad weather.

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                      Reply#10 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:46 AM EDT

                      Flash flooding in Texas seems a given after the year of drought they had. Run-off is inevitable under those circumstances. I would hazard a guess that most in those states are grateful for the rain. Yes, it's been an usually mild winter, but I can remember them in past years, so this is not necessarily a new phenomenon. And really, folks, it is not necessary to bring politics into this. I don't care which party you support, neither has enough power to decide where and when the rain will fall.

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                      Reply#11 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:46 AM EDT

                      I'm thinking the same; after the ground gets that hard from being dry for so long, run off is going to be a real problem. It would be nice if the rain came gradually, softening the ground so it'd be more usefull, but of course that's not always the case.

                      I've oft times wondered if for some states... maybe all, really... if it would be worth the investment to have fallow areas invested into; constructing large rain catching equipment. Depending on the area and the droughts experienced, the more equipment. If nothing else, the water could be used for farming, some filtrated for drinking and at least isn't wasted. Not a fix all, but better than letting it cause so much damage and not even be utilized.

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                      #11.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:45 AM EDT

                      Actually in my part of Texas (the Southeast corner, near Louisiana) we are having flooding because all of the waterways were already full. Because of its size, there is no area in the state that can be considered typical. For example, I live in bayou country, which isn't what most people visualize when they think of Texas.

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                      #11.2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:45 AM EDT
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                      I wonder whether the Republican governors of Texas and Louisiana will ask the federal government for help. That would be the federal government which both of them think is too big and costs too much. I wonder whether they think it would cost the big federal government too much to help their oil-rich states.

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                      Reply#12 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:47 AM EDT

                      This comment is NOT political. If necessary, the State governors should ask the Federal government for assistance. After all, the Federal government is tasked to help the states in the event of natural or man-made disasters that overwhelm their own (the states) resources. And that applies to all the states and territories.

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                      #12.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:27 AM EDT

                      In fairness, it is unrealistic to expect some people to understand or acknowledge the difference between asking the government to do their job and asking the government to live within their means.

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                      #12.2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:12 AM EDT

                      blooper - this is about weather not politics, but some of you just have to bring up something like this. Whatever the people of Texas, Louisiana, or any other group of people think about big government, they all still pay taxes to the Federal government, so if they should need assistance they are just as entitled to it as any other state. Taxes are not paid by Red or Blue states, they are paid by all states.

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                      #12.3 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:36 AM EDT

                      oldfatbroad, you are correct, of course. However, Rick Perry has a history of refusing federal aid based on his political ideology. The fact that he has hurt women and minorities by doing so is less important to him than his political zealotry.

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                      #12.4 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:51 AM EDT
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                      Unfortunately all the bad weather, storms, floods & tornado are mostly in the Red States. Do people who are living in those States ever wonder why they are getting hit so often? Karma?

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                      Reply#13 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:01 AM EDT

                      Tony....do you not actually get rain where you come from...or maybe you just consider it an inconvenience? As for the red states getting storms...It is my understanding that precipitation happens most everywhere but desert zones. As for tornadoes....well when storms bring cold fronts to warmer climates the cold air hits the hot air and poses a terrific opportunity for tornadoes....when geographic zones do not typically experience hot weather they are not prone to tornadoes. Personally, one might just consider it the Science of Weather instead of Karma. Karma is when the Universe decides to exact retribution when man fails...

                        #13.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:12 AM EDT

                        And what does Karma hold for those who wish ill on others because they don't vote the way you do?

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                        #13.2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:13 AM EDT

                        txmom32 - as gracious as you are to explain to Tony the difference between Karma and weather, I am afraid that it was a waste of your time. I don't think he would even consider something that makes as much sense as your post. I think too that you are giving him too much credit.

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                        #13.3 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

                        "The rain falls on the just and the unjust; the sun also rises." Ecclesiastes

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                        #13.4 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:17 PM EDT
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                        Thank goodness it's happening in the oil patch states. And oklahoma & texas are key to the new keystone pipeline. Mr grover, the gop, & the rushbo will still not get the message and insist on depending upon fossil fuels and diss obama's alternative energy & fuel efficient cars.

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                        Reply#14 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:17 AM EDT

                        Obozo makes cars? That's news to me.

                        Obozo's "Alternative Energy" cost taxpayers a fortune when the company went bankrupt.

                        Solar/Wind power could work for such things as electricity, to a degree. Until the cost of implementing it comes down the average homeowner will not be able to afford it. And until technology comes up with electric cars that can travel more than 100miles or so we will depend on fossil fuels for some time to come.

                        I hope all in the flood area stay safe. With the droughts of last spring and summer they need this rain desperately.

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                        #14.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:26 AM EDT

                        marshal...it seems apparent that you do not keep up with energy statistics.... Currently Texas holds the record for the most wind-power generated in any state. So even though you may wish that we were not front and center into next gen energy it just doesn't make it so. I guess in your case reality disappoints.

                        It also seems you are a bit under educated in the who point of keystone going through many states but ending up in Texas. The point of that exercise is for the pipeline to carry Canadian oil to a point (in Texas) that cannot only refine the oil but is logistically feasible as an export port.

                        Now where Obama is concerned...no reasonable sense, common or economic, is being employed by the Oval office. Environmental concerns are being addressed because the voice of states concerned have been taken into account. The reality is that the United States and the individual States involved have found a way to support our neighbor to the North with regard to their oil and access to their customers and to find an economic benefit for the presence of the pipeline.

                        Obama is the one dissing Canada and well many of the States in America that did not support his candidacy. For Obama it is a political pay to play and reap vengeance on those he considers his enemies....Canada and well the red states. Again perhaps reality disappoints you.

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                        #14.2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

                        Obozo's "Alternative Energy" cost taxpayers a fortune when the company went bankrupt.

                        A one time investment of $500 million in a high tech company called Solyndra did not pay off. It happens sometimes in the business world.

                        Compare that to the $40 BILLION in tax subsidies which are given away EVERY YEAR to the oil companies, and which the current GOP budget proposes should continue. If you can't do the math, that single example is 80 times bigger than the Solyndra investment, and it goes on year after year after year. Then talk to me about fiscal conservatism. Bah.

                        http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2012/03/21/448808/ryan-budget-big-oil-subsidies/?mobile=nc

                          #14.3 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

                          Wow, that link is to an article, and a site, just as "fair and balanced" as Fox is ...

                            #14.4 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:22 PM EDT
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                            Lets use our intelligence and basic science here. Weather makes up climate. CO2 levels have risen to historic heights with human activities. CO2 retains heat in the atmosphere. A warmer atmosphere holds more moisture and energy resulting in stronger storms. Worse is to come. The planet will survive, but not as a safe place for humans.

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                            Reply#15 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:21 AM EDT

                            Hold onto yer hats folks, it looks like we're in for a bumpy ride.

                              #15.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:42 PM EDT
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                              But mr grover, the gop, & the rushbo would never report this weather story on foxnews.com. No. No. Foxnews.com isn't the news just like ms piggy said. And hey, they don't even have a weather or science sections. Following himler's strategy of indoctrination to the tee.

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                              Reply#16 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:22 AM EDT

                              marshal...

                              They would never report this weather story? Seriously dude, this is not a story. I feel for the people who have lost but we all know what to expect. I guess this a story to you because you've been sheltered, never been exposed to reality.
                              And by the way, YOU can stop using oil first. Lead by example and stop using anything containing petrolium products. I know where there is a nice cave for you. Lead the way for us, partner.

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                              #16.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:41 AM EDT

                              marshal, you lose under Grissom's Law: you just called those with whom you disagree Nazis.

                                #16.2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:21 PM EDT
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                                March winds and April showers bring forth May flowers! Weather is something the world has endured since the beginning of our existance. And from where I am in good ole Louisiana the weather is looking at lot more normal this year, so that's actually a good thing. There's nothing like a good tall glass of sweet iced tea,shared with family,sitting on the porch and listening to all those crickets and frogs make their beautiful music, after one of those most appreciated spring rains! And as far as our government goes blooper dear, if the federal government weren't so prone to overspending this country wouldn't be in the fix it's in. It is going to take some fine southern gent like our very own Bobby Jindal to get this country back on track. To bad he is not running for President. Lousiana is a state that hasn't been hit to bad with such dire economy issues,although we have had ruts, but our wonderful government must be doing something right because no matter what we always persevere!

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                                Reply#17 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

                                well when I was younger [about 100 years ago] I would read about flash floods in texas and seems to me back then most news papers and radio reported the truth

                                now the floods may not have been so severe but they did happen

                                as for climate change when you pump a million gallons of oil from one side of the earth to the other and have tsunami totally crossing the pacific ocean and slapping hell out of the opposite shore the planet has to shift thus causing some major weather changes PLUS ALL the @!$%# man does to the earth there is going to be major changes, maybe as big as from the ice age to now but much faster

                                  Reply#18 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:43 AM EDT

                                  dorkkwadd...

                                  There's probably some truth to that. The Three Gorges Dam in China, or more specfically the body of water behind it, is so large that it slowed the rotation and shape of the earth and may be contributing to some of the earthquakes. These changes were very small but...

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                                  #18.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:06 AM EDT
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                                  And finally toyota is making a 2012 plug-in hybrid prius electric car. Selling for $31K but you can't find one. Toyota will convert it's entire fleet to plug-in hybrid electric cars like the chevy volt. Buying one is best way to change the weather back to how we liked it. Save texas!

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                                  Reply#19 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:53 AM EDT

                                  Marshal, electric cars are fine, if you're just traveling around town. But they are just not feasible for the average car buyer. Who buys a car JUST for running around town, and then need another for any trips you want to make?

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                                  #19.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:33 AM EDT

                                  marshal probably lives and works where everything he usually needs to visit is within a five-mile radius. Lots of people do, but many more of us do not. He should buy a Volt and rent a car if he goes on a trip of any real distance and doesn't want to wear out the little charging motor. I should probably keep the car I already have, it has a five-speed and gets about 38 mpg when I put it on "cruise". If people are so concerned about fuel efficiency, why don't they go back to manual transmissions like almost everyone else in the world outside of North America for all but the biggest luxury cars? Here over 90% of cars sold are automatics; in the rest of the world it is like 80-85% manual transmissions which usually get three to seven more mpg depending upon the size of the car, gear ratios, and driver skill; this would be like taking several million cars, presumably contributing to global warming, off of the road with very well-proven existing technology.

                                    #19.2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:30 PM EDT
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                                    tinntangDeleted

                                    I hate it when you're just sitting in the park with your kids making sand castles and some flood comes up and flashes you. Get these sickos off the streets!

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                                    Reply#21 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:11 AM EDT

                                    Love your sense of humor! lol

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                                    #21.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:18 AM EDT
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                                    To all of you leaving political comments on a weather story, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt." Mark Twain

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                                    Reply#22 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

                                    txinncali - Excellent comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                      #22.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:54 AM EDT
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                                      For those that get caught in storms, floods and tornados; regardless of whether they are Republicans or Democrats, let us all hope and pray that no one is killed. No one's father, mother, brother, sister, etc. What weather has to do with politics is just wa-a-a-y out there, but to each his/her own.

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                                      Reply#23 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:51 AM EDT

                                      "Never interrupt someone when they are making a fool of themselves" Bill Clinton

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                                      Reply#24 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:52 AM EDT

                                      LOL. Especially when they are doing so stridently and emphatically. Thanks for the quote, publiclady.

                                        #24.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:28 PM EDT

                                        Especially when it involves a cigar!

                                          #24.2 - Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:10 AM EDT
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                                          It was 81 here yesterday and 84 today...dang climate change.

                                            Reply#25 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

                                            Just a thought..... Might want to consider establishing more farms elsewhere in the United States! Farmers have been beaten down by severe weather, Washington D.C. and are becoming extremely scarce.

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                                            Reply#26 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:17 PM EDT

                                            That's true, Fed Up, especially the "Washington D.C." part. That's part of the attempt to shift our nation to a Communist nation. One of the ten planks of the Communist Manifesto is to control farming activities.

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                                            #26.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:26 PM EDT
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                                            First of all, God and Jesus don't involved in politics so they're not really interested in politics. They have there own government that they are witnessing about. Second, You can pray all you want They are not going to bring disasters or ill upon anyone. Our God is fair and not bias of others. No matter what, Global warming, climate change or whatever. Man can't reverse the damage that has been done, nor will a politician effect change. The world is 'lying in the power of the wicked one'

                                              Reply#27 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:03 PM EDT

                                              george said..The world is 'lying in the power of the wicked one'

                                              Right, but we're going to vote him out in November. lol

                                                #27.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:37 PM EDT
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                                                Boy oh boy, God does not like this part of the country right now.

                                                Hope it gets better for them.

                                                  Reply#28 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:23 PM EDT
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