Leave it to Obama and Obamites to take credit for any perceived improvement in the American economy and outlook, and assign blame to conservatives to any perceived failure in today's economy and outlook. Must be nice to have a willing accomplice in modern day left-wing media and to be that deluded to be able to buy such nonsense and enjoy eating it.

I've actually supported a good number of Obama's decisions (really, there wasn't much of an option with the bulls--t some of the freshman Republicans have been pulling), but I definitely disagree with him on this pipeline. The numbers posted by the NRDC in this article says it all. To me, this seems like he's scrounging up some Republican votes at the last minute, but let's face it - Romney's going to lose.

I'm mostly moderate (I prefer capital punishment over life sentences, but I believe in investing in renewable resources) and this is just an unbias opinion.

While most people would be in agreement to an alternative energy program, until technology makes it feasible and economical to the average American it will be hard sell.

While electric cars are a great alternative, until they are designed to travel more than 100miles without recharging, and the cost comes down to make them available to the middle/low income purchaser, we are stuck with oil for now.

Solar and wind are also good alternatives, but their cost puts them out of reach to most. When the electricity generated from a wind farm costs more than that generated by fossil fuel or nuclear, what's the point?

My take is , if neither side is happy, President Obama has struck a real balance with his energy policy. The art of compromise. Ever hear of it?

The president has done a complete 180 on this issue, I for one am amazed at this whole situation.

Obama panders to his base, denies the pipeline...

Obama realizes that people who work/drive/vote don't want high gas prices...

Reality and perceptions are two completely different issues when concerning gasoline prices.

Zathros

There is a more appropriate way of saying what you said.

What you have here is someone who is trying to ride a fence between his union, evironmentalist, and Industrial supporters. If the Republicans had not force the issue, he wouldn't have looked so bad and have to do damage control.

1) There was nothing Obama could do to stop this portion - Enviromentalists hate this. Him saying he was going to accelerate this, angers them more.

2) Him claiming he was for keystone, while his administration was caught trying to help Pelosi and Reid to find ways to stop or delay it went through the Industrial hot line at light-speed. Claiming he is for it isn't going to work, even if he backs it up.

Shortly after Obama was elected, my wife's and stated that by the end of his administration, everyone would hate him, just might be coming true.

AH!

Obama panders to his base, denies the pipeline...

Obama realizes that people who work/drive/vote don't want high gas prices...

Two facts you overlooked:

1) The Republican governor of NE denied the pipeline the route they wanted. Because the route wasn't finalized, you can't get a permit to build when you don't know where you wanted to build.

2) The Keystone XL will not affect gas prices more than a couple cents. In fact, it will raise prices in the Midwest by eliminating the 'oil surplus' currently there.

ZathroseRestored

Drillers, environmentalists not buying Obama's energy pitch

They aren't alone. No one except the terminally mindless Obamites are buying the propaganda this pathological liar is spewing out his pie hole.

He's a centrist, not a Liberal--and the pathological liar resides in Dallas, in retirement planning his library with millions of copies of "My Pet Goat."

Seriously, all the right wants to do is to continue the old ways of burning fossil fuel and never seeking an alternative. Spend some of those welfare subsidies that big oil gets on alternative clean renewable energy. Afraid of the sun and wind?

These articles invariably bring out the crackpots.

Is there anyone left in this country that looks at the facts and reacts to them or are we just a nation of talking head bobble heads?

This president is so far over on the business side of the equation he can't even see the environmental side of it. No one but a dim wit would ever accuse him of being a tree hugger. Since he's been in office he's supported every agenda business dreams up no matter how the smoke and mirrors stack up.

Get a grip. Read a bit. It's disgraceful. If there were any other choice I'd vote for them. This guy is a liberal like I'm an anti-choice, anti-environment, god-fearin' christian.

The tiny segment of pipeline between Texas and Oklahoma was not approved by Obama or the Feds.

Because IT DID NOT REQUIRE their permission! And was being built anyway.

It's a privately owned pipeline and privately owned land. The Feds had zero authority or say in whether they built the pipeline or not.

Obama stop trying to take credit for something you had zero to do with and just could not stop!

WOW! Obama got caught talking out of both sides of his mouth as he vies for votes from both sides.

But neither the oil industry, which insists Obama could send stronger market signals to lower prices at the pump, nor environmentalists, who cite the climate impact of fossil fuels, were on board.

Of course the oil industry is going to push the blame. Just a couple of weeks ago big oil was blaming Wall Street. Everyone seems to be able to affect prices at the pump except for the oil industry...

On the other hand, if the Environmentalists aren't happy, the President must be doing right in the way of increasing fossil fuel output.

Obama can't win for losing.

Boy, you KNOW you're having a bad day when you give a policy speech and those on both the right and the left beat you up over it!

It's a privately owned pipeline and privately owned land. The Feds had zero authority or say in whether they built the pipeline or not.

Doesn't a federal agency have to approve it since it goes across state lines?

The northern part is under State Dept. jurisdiction because it crosses international lines.

Obama has BLOCKED more drilling than we are producing.
That's why the price is so high.

The price is sky-high because the speculators know Obama will try to block the drilling we need, so they bid the price up.

They are betting Obama is a roadblock to success, driving our cost up.

Willing.Sniper

Obama has BLOCKED more drilling than we are producing.
That's why the price is so high.

The price is sky-high because the speculators know Obama will try to block the drilling we need, so they bid the price up.

They are betting Obama is a roadblock to success, driving our cost up.

No, the price is rising due to speculation and fears of war with Iran.

The amount of oil the USA could ever produce is a mere drop in the bucket. As long as we are dependent on crude oil we will need the Middle East to supply it.

"He's taking credit for going forward on the only portion of the pipeline that he doesn't need to approve," said Sen. John Hoeven, R-N.D., at a press conference. "This is literally straddling both sides of the issue."

BINGO!

And what are the Republicans doing? The party of "No" is becoming the party of NOthing ! Obamba is a politician heading for a second term. So get real. Remember MR. WMD as he headed for his second term touting "Al Queida hates us because of our freedom". Now the Iraq war cost US taxpayers a trillion dollars--a trillion dollars that could have been used for direct investment here to get off of oil. The Keystone pipeline is not going to put oil into the US market unless mandated by Congress so where are the Republicans on this fact with legislation? They just stand there opposed to anything then stick their hands out for the big bucks from lobbyists! You conservatives with your head stuck in the sand--tar sands-- where are the solutions you whiners!

How do you know when Barrack Hussein Obama is lying? If his lips are moving...........

Both the oil industry and the environmental lobby are special interest groups. If you're pissing off both of them, you're probably headed in the right direction.

Doesn't a federal agency have to approve it since it goes across state lines?

The northern part is under State Dept. jurisdiction because it crosses international lines.

You are correct to an extent...but here is the question that no one is asking. Why is the federal government approving the route through individual states anyways? Seems to me the feds should only be involved when it crosses the international boundary (State Dept), and state lines (Commerce Dept.). Other than that, I don't see why Washington is involved at all. Unless of course, someone can convince me that Barack Obama is the right person to approve a pipleine route through Nebraska and Oklahoma all the way from Washington, DC.

As a Nebraska citizen, I have a huge problem with the proposed route being approved from Washington. That is the only reason this is even up for discussion. Nebraskans stood up and cried foul at the last minute for the proposed route, we even passed legislation during an emergency session requiring Nebraska to have final approval on any oil line route. Why are we still talking about Obama approving the pipeline? There were no objections to any part of the project besides the route through the Nebraska Sandhills. Both TransCanada and the Nebraska Department of Environmental Quality are working together on a new route. Why should the Feds still have to sign off after the DEQ and TransCanada come to an agreement? Get the Feds the heck out of it.

The ONLY part of a pipeline that needs federal approval is the tiny segment that crosses an INTERNATIONAL BORDER!

Not any of the rest of it.

And you all are going to listen to extremists?

Oil drillers are extreme in their view that oil from America is the most important thing in America right now.

Environmentalists are extreme in their view that we should never combust another molecule of fossil fuel.

I'm in-between like most people who are not trying to make this a political football. I believe in some safe drilling in this country, safe being the operative word. I'm also in favor of looking somewhere else for our energy besides just using oil.

Speculators are placing bets that Obama will be a roadblock to our energy success, and they are winning. The price of gas is going sky-high because the speculators betted correctly!

Janine: Solar and wind are also good alternatives, but their cost puts them out of reach to most. When the electricity generated from a wind farm costs more than that generated by fossil fuel or nuclear, what's the point?

The point is that research and development is not getting any cheaper. And with increasing demands from other parts of the world for more oil, the supply will continue to diminish.

If we don't start now on developing alternate sources, we run the risk of being without any kind of energy at some point in the future. Everything costs more at the beginning. Prices come down as technology improves. Automobiles were expensive at first. So were telephones, televisions and computers. But if we had stopped development because startup costs were expensive, where would we be?

Certainly there will be missteps. To not do anything is even worse.

The ONLY part of a pipeline that needs federal approval is the tiny segment that crosses an INTERNATIONAL BORDER!

Not any of the rest of it.

That's the part that needs approval from the State Dept., which can be linked to Obama.

But doesn't another federal agency have to approve any interstate pipeline routes? Or are the states just responsible for approving each individual section through their state?

Speculators are placing bets that Obama will be a roadblock to our energy success, and they are winning. The price of gas is going sky-high because the speculators betted correctly!

No, they're sky-high because speculation creates artificial demand for oil and inflates the price.

Either way you look at it speculation is increasing the price of oil, not Obama.

The real problem here is that everyone always seems to need to get exactly what they want, exactly how they want it.

I'm so glad I live in the real world where I can deal with things not always going my way. It makes for a happier and more successful life.

The pipeline was already started way b4 these campaign junkets he doing. He has the say on crossing international borders but the states control state lines with it.

But doesn't another federal agency have to approve any interstate pipeline routes? Or are the states just responsible for approving each individual section through their state?

STATE permit only. And that was approved a long time ago..........this is private property, and a private company.

Obama has BLOCKED more permits than we are drilling. He is responsible for the high cost at the pump.

THAT is what the Speculators betted on; and they were right.

Asked and already answered.

Oil prices are set on a global market. The USA's oil is a drop in the bucket.

STATE permit only. And that was approved a long time ago..........this is private property, and a private company.

Okay.

What the hell are all the rightwingnuts up and arms about? Obama wants to fast track the pipeline they have been griping about for months. A bunch of frickin' crybabies. Next the teabagging nut cases will be complaining that the stock market is hovering around 13000.

GET THIS LIEING MORON OUT OF OFFICE!!!

And replace him with a bigger moron (i.e. Etch-a-Sketch or Frothy)?

The GOP got rid of the two candidates I would have voted for (Huntsman and Pawlenty) and instead presented me with two candidates that scare the sh*t out of me.

American Girl-724855is not to bright she fell for it hook, line and sinker. I am not sure but she could be a republican acting like a dumb lib just to prove a point. If I were a Dem I would dis-own her.

jimsepa

Did you read the article??? Do you have a clue what you're talking about??? He isn't talking about the Keystone pipeline that people have been griping about for months. He thinks he's the smoothest thing alive and we see him for what he really is.

President Obama is on the campaign trail lying to us again. Get it.?? It is not just the right pissed off this time.

The fact that most people do not understand is that the oil companies who drill for the oil may or may not choose to sell it in the US and may or may pass the savings of drilling for it here on to the consumer if they do.

The US does not drill for or sell oil! Oil companies do. These may be US companies, but that means very little in terms of how much we pay for gas.

The ONLY way that drilling for oil here makes gas prices drop for sure is that there will be a greater supply to meet the demand. However, considering how little oil we will actually be adding to the pot compared to the rest of the world, there is not going to be a great decrease.

Obama made a good compromise. The proof? Neither sad is happy.

Seems to me the feds should only be involved when it crosses the international boundary (State Dept), and state lines (Commerce Dept.).

Uhmmm... because the project as a whole crosses state lines and once it does that it becomes the responsibility of the federal government; as a whole, not just the little parts.

The problem with the northern part as I understand it is that it could have adverse impact on a aquifer that provides water to 5 states. That's not something to be taken lightly.

Well Willing.Sniper...sounds like the cost of high gas prices are the fault of speculators then, huh? They are directly involved in the inflation of gas prices and yet everyone wants to blame the president of the United States. Well then I guess if your republican candidate wins the election in November (any one but Ron Paul anyway) and he brings our country to war with Iran (as the main three are hinting they will do) then the speculators will, again, cause even higher gas prices. Whose fault will those high prices be then?

As for why the federal government is involved in approving such a pipeline, I'm no expert and won't pretend to be, but I will point out that, if we go ahead and cover this country with pipelines full of oil and an accident happens and we have some oil spill causing all sorts of problems for people in whatever state it occurs, you can bet it won't be that state that goes to the rescue but rather the federal government. Everyone will scream for the feds to clean it up.

I can't wait for Obama to come here and tell me why it is so much better that we now have Petrobras (who received WH support and $$$) receiving a permit to use a FPSO (Floating Production Storage & Offloading vessel) instead of a conventional platform in the Gulf. While they're used extensively in other areas in the world, they're also far more prone to pollution due to more handling and more cause for errors.

He could make a public statement at a press conference saying "I here by discontinue ALL BANS on drilling on Federal land and offshore.

We would have $2 gas by the weekend, because speculators will stop betting that Obama is a roadblock to energy success.

We could argue hypotheticals all day, and nobody would ever be certain who is right and who is wrong.

But even oil produced here at home is sold at the global price of oil. That's why it's called the global price. The amount of oil the USA has is tiny (by comparison). No amount of domestic drilling will ever give us $2 gas if speculation isn't eliminated.

It's an election year.......!!!

Getn that man an Etch A Sketch!!!!

Ruken

Thank you for making the point that either everyone has forgotten or no one knows.

OIL IS PRICED ON THE GLOBAL MARKET!!!!!

Gas prices are not going to go down significantly here or anywhere because the US added our insignificant amount to the huge pot.

Obama has BLOCKED more permits than we are drilling. He is responsible for the high cost at the pump.

THATis what the Speculators betted on; and they were right.

As stated by Willing.Sniper, the above is absolutely true, but its only part of the equation. The Obama QE2 policy had an absolutely devastating affect on the price of oil. By printing money, thus devaluing the dollar, this also pushed the price paid for a barrel of oil higher. Obama is 100% responsible for this action and needs to be held accountable.

The problem with the northern part as I understand it is that it could have adverse impact on a aquifer that provides water to 5 states. That's not something to be taken lightly.

You might want to look at this:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/02/19/sunday-review/an-intricate-web-of-pipelines.html?ref=sunday-review

Notice something? Yup, those states already had pipelines...

Wow, JH, thank you for proving my case that the right is a bunch of nutcases. Can you read at all? Let me help you. K-E-Y-S-T-O-N-E pipleline was referenced, I don't know, maybe five, six times. Teabagging strategy: make everything and anything up and hope it sticks.

And by the way - yes, sometimes the left does get pissed off at the President, just like the environmentalist are with this decision. When will the right wing, non-bible thumping moderates speak out against the christian taliban trying to take over the republican party?

for the past 3 1/2-4 years we have been reaping the results of poor leadership! its time to get this nut out of the white house, and get back on track. i'm willing to go and help him pack, any one with me?

The bottom line in America is greed, not need, I'm 65. I've seen alternative technology get dumped in the trash since the early 60's. Cars running on electricity have been around since day one. Natural gas to power cars has been in use in California since the late 60's, that I know of, maybe longer. This country is already a environmental nightmare, so there isn't any reason to stop now. My vision of the future is seeing a man using the last gallon of gasoline to run a filtration system to get a quart of drinking water. Don't blame the politicians for the mess, we the people demand to do what we want.. FYI, buy bottled water, lots of it, your grand kids will thank you. It use to be you couldn't see the forest for the trees, no problem now, cut them suckers down.

Best way to piss off everyone.....COMPROMISE!

Oops! There's that nasty word again.

President Obama...rest easy knowing that at least the whole of OWS supports you.

How do you know a compromise was a good one? No one is happy.

And HOW did President Bush LOWER the price to only $1.87 a gallon then?

He did it by dropping the federal ban on offshore drilling.

Obama put the BAN back on, then cancelled most drilling permits, and now prices are sky-rocketing.

Willing.Sniper,

I sincerely hope you don't believe what you type, because none of it is true.

The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) regulates interstate gas transmission pipeline operations, including approval, permitting and siting for new pipeline facilities. Did you see the most important part? Federal. That means this statement:

STATE permit only. And that was approved a long time ago..........this is private property, and a private company.

is wrong.

Also this statement is ridiculously naive and false:

Obama could make the price of gas DROP DOWN this minute by doing this:

He could make a public statement at a press conference saying "I here by discontinue ALL BANS on drilling on Federal land and offshore.

We would have $2 gas by the weekend, because speculators will stop betting that Obama is a roadblock to energy success.

Gas prices are traded on a worldwide stage. That means the U.S. does not alone determine what the price of a barrel of gas will cost. If you want to blame an entity besides Wall Street, blame OPEC.

Furthermore, gas production has hit an 8-year high. Not only that, but the U.S. is now a fuel exporter for the first time.

So please stop spamming your ridiculous nonsense when you clearly don't resort to actual facts.

Maybe it should be called President Obama's "Everything to everyone energy doctrine". I've built more pipeline than would go around the world, but I won't allow any more pipeline to be built because it's environmentally dangerous to do so. I've overseen the most oil output in ten years, while stopping additional drilling and closed two refineries. I want to raise the cost of gas in line with europe, but am fighting for the average person's gas prices. The average person is having a hard time paying their electrical bill- we've got to change that, but I'm going to make it impossible to have existing power plants provide the needed energy. The United States can't depend on the global fluctuations and supplies of oil, but we are going to reduce our output. We are going to make the oil companies pay their fair share of taxes while they make massive profits, but the new taxes and costs we impliment on them won't turn into greater costs at the pump. To help out the average person we are going reduce our strategic oil reserve to drive down the cost of gas, don't worry, we don't need it- there won't be an oil distribution issue when Iran goes nuclear and starts up a regional war. Things will be just fine.

Like I said, everything to everyone. That really equals nothing to anyone. Quick! We need another poll and focus group!!

For those of you citing the latest polls about the pipeline I remind you that not one of the folks taking the poll have a clue of the intricacies of that which they hope to impact...not one.

If you want the facts about the pipeline just do your own research from multiple sources. This is nothing but another political talking point for Teapubs wholly owned by Big Oil.

The campaign against the President's energy policies is right out of the playbook of both parties, and a tired argument regardless of who is in the WH. Check out this article:

How much Exxon pays for oil

It doesn't cost big oil companies anywhere near $90 to produce a barrel of crude. But they buy more crude than they pump, so the rising cost of a barrel cuts both ways.

By Steve Hargreaves, CNNMoney.com staff writer

November 6 2007: 1:36 PM EST

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Oil is selling for nearly $100 a barrel. Gasoline is near $3 a gallon. Oil companies are swimming in cash. But these record-high prices are both a boom and a burden for Big Oil.

Sound familiar?

Big oil companies refine more crude than they produce. That means they must buy crude to refine at market prices, which are now at record highs.

Could you people please get this...Gas prices ARE NOT SOLELY a function of supply and demand!! In fact the market builds into every barrel of oil a premium that fluctuates with fear and greed.

1.) The average cost to produce a barrel of oil for Western companies is somewhere between $35-$20 per barrel, (Saudi's its $2/barrel) The oil flowing from Canada will be sold at market prices at no discount to the US. Ask yourself how in the H*ll is that going to affect the price of tea in China?

2.) By TransCanada's own admission the project will create 4-6000 temporary jobs. When asked of employment guidance for American's after the pipeline is in place, they readily admitted a flaw in their own calculation that over inflated potential employment (double and triple counted).

Stop the 1 million jobs BS talking point...its a lie.

3.) The environmental study has not been completed and, I believe but could be mistaken, that to date TransCanada has not yet submitted a corrective action plan with a new proposal to address aquifer concerns in Nebraska and other regional ecological consequences.

Whether or not you agree with this President record for increasing the production of oil in this country, you cannot blame him for gas prices.

OBAMA IN 2012 there is no one else.

I wonder if Jimsepa and his negative attitude towards half the country by name calling realizes that he is part of the problem and not the solution....Compromise people...

Oil prices are controlled and manipulated by OPEC. There is no oil market globally nor domestically. Winter formula summer formula...Shutting down gasoline refineries as we speak slowing down pumping when demands are high.. come on....its all controlled to the penny.

Obama can make the price of gas tumble down RIGHT NOW by publicly announcing he is dropping all Federal bans to drilling. ( on shore and off).

So you Obamabots are wrong, he can do something but doesn't want to.

Asked and answered by many people in this thread. There's a global price of oil. The USA has only a very tiny faction of the amount of oil in the global pool.

Just because you don't understand how the oil market works doesn't mean it's one giant Obama conspiracy.

The US has 1.4 trillion barrels of crude oil available with our current technology of drilling. At our current rate of usage that is 200 years worth of oil and more than Saudi Arabia has today.

Sure we can build wind farms and solar panels, but our economy is powered by oil. All of our prices are based on oil. Wind power costs a magnitude more than coal or nuclear and solar costs 100 times more to produce at the same level.

56% of our nations electricity is from coal.

20% from nuclear.

Using current wind farm technology and turbine density, we would have to cover an area about the size of New Jersey with turbines and hope the wind blows. If we were to try solar, we would need a land mass almost 10 times that big.

Do the math folks.

Wind turbines last 20 years according to their design life and have a payback period of 21 years using a 10% discount rate.

On a cold winter day in 2011 driving across northern Illinois I could see the DeKalb wind farm sitting idle while the nuclear plant belched steam on the horizon. Dependability factor?

Keep working on innovations folks, but today the economics just don't work unless oil gets way more expensive - hence the envirodemocrat position to drive up the price.

Ruken - come on man, don't you get tired of Koolaid? In 1944 the US had a 20 Billion Barrels of viable oil. Despite that fact we pumped 177 Billion since then. Today we have only 20 Billion Barrels of viable oil (according to the Energy Department). But the Bakken shale is even larger than that, so is the Marceles Shale. ANWR is bigger.

There is a $1 per gallon of gasoline difference between the midwest and the coasts.

So when you hear people in the media or the Obamacrats say "gasoline is globally priced, and therefore more production will not lower the price"

Think a bout that $1 difference because they are drilling for oil in the midwest.

I have no idea why people don't get that delivery isn't free on oil or gasoline. Bringing in Canadian oil will only result in lower prices in the US. Where the oil is is a huge factor in price.

Wouldn't you like to pay $1 less a gallon on the coasts? Well you don't allow drilling there - so it has to be shipped to you. Just try and load a tanker in the midwest at $3.35 a gallon and then drive it to the coasts - no surpise - you add a buck in delivery costs. If it wasn't like that, people would be making a fortune by simply moving fuel around.

As others have mentioned, the only Federal Gov't approval of the southern end of Keystone is the Army Corps of Engineers - where the line crosses levees or controlled rivers.

And Obama isn't in the Corps of Engineers.

As for alternative fuels - big rigs should run on natural gas, and then spend the money we are wasting on solar pet projects to install CNG (compressed natural gas) filling stations across the country.

Oh, and understand that Texas is the leading wind power state (number 2 isn't even close). But it costs more than regular electricity. Yeah, I know, you thought wind was free.

But Texas is also the leading international exporting state. We bring in oil (yes, even Texas imports oil) - and the MANUFACTURE plastics, chemicals, resins and road materials using that oil. We then sell those products worldwide.

The plastic in the cheap junk you buy from China might have been made here.

Thank goodness there is still something the US can still export.

Petroleum products are the number one export. They exceed Technology, Agriculture and Medicine as exports.

WE NEED MORE EXPORTS AND THE JOBS THEY CREATE.

Everyone whines about there being no manufacturing jobs - well here they are.

And what does the President do? He blocks Canadian oil that we can get cheap to make those petroleum products.

So now we have to bring it down here by truck or train. Guess what, that increases costs AND produces even more carbon than an efficient pipeline.

The real problem is we have a party that always says: increasing drilling or pipelines or refineries won't reduce prices for years. The left uses that to block those things. Problem is: the Obamacrats were saying that 5, 10, 15 -20 years ago. So they use a problem they created to prevent the solution, then say: "There's nothing we can do".

We have huge amounts of oil and gas under our feet, and just to the north of us.

And while all the money the Fed has printed, plus the deficit spending ($4.5 trillion in just 3 years!!!) has diluted the dollar, making higher oil prices inevitable - we can have real and lasting impacts on lowering those prices by moving forward on production, distribution and utilization of the new found gas/oil.

And if you don't think it matters, THEN WHY IS GASOLINE A DOLLAR CHEAPER WHERE DRILLING HAS HAPPENED?

Willing.Sniper

Obama can make the price of gas tumble down RIGHT NOW by publicly announcing he is dropping all Federal bans to drilling. ( on shore and off).

So you Obamabots are wrong, he can do something but doesn't want to.

Huh? What ban? I'm a driller and I'm sure working.

Take a look at some REAL facts not just what you want to believe:

http://www.rigzone.com/data/utilization_region.asp

I don't support Obama but you're so off-base it's sad.

It's harder to get permits these days (as it should be after the BP disaster) but to believe there's a ban is just off the wall crazy.

The only answer to our energy issue is Thorium Reactors .....Google it and learn

I can not believe all the people who blindly support thie failure of a President. Hoping for the right change in 2012. THe one in 2008 was a disaster

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The 1% want this Keystone pipe line to get Oil to China, this thing is like 12' high Wall across our entire Country, check it out-this is Nuts.

And Obama moves even MORE to the RIGHT.

Why are we even having a Republican primary? We already have a Republican in office.

So, come November, our choice is between a Republican and a more extreme, theocratic Republican that wants to push more government into your bedroom. F***ing awesome.

Obama in his speech noted that domestic production has risen during his term. "America is producing more oil today than at any time in the last eight years," he said. "Over the last three years, I've directed my administration to open up millions of acres for oil and gas exploration across 23 different states. We're opening up more than 75 percent of our potential oil resources offshore. We've quadrupled the number of operating oil rigs to a record high."

Now wait a minute,,,libs say it takes 10 years to get oil rigs operational. O'bama approves a southern leg of the pipeline? Is that end more environmental? ROFL!!! I think O'bama is trying to see just how much he can get away with hahah. This is a joke....it has to be

As long as President Obama is pissing off the rt wing lying crack pots, he must be doing the right thing. Do search on Newt Gingrinch Word List. Too funny . A list of words and phrases put out by repubs for republican politicians and rt wing media to use on rt wing mindless crackpots. Make them jump up and down for them. Ahahahahahahaha, jump, mindless little ones.......Ahahahahaha

As long as President Obama is pissing off the rt wing lying crack pots, he must be doing the right thing

You are nothing but a mindless sheeple. Grazing in the pasture your Sheppard has seeded for you.

Seriously, all the right wants to do is to continue the old ways of burning fossil fuel and never seeking an alternative. Spend some of those welfare subsidies that big oil gets on alternative clean renewable energy. Afraid of the sun and wind?

Seriously, all the left wants to do is be zombies and believe anything the media tells them, and wouldn't know what the hell the old way was if it slapped them in the face. Yeah, there so afraid, that's why if you knew anything, you would realize the wealfare that alternative clean energy gets makes oil subsidies look like a drop in the bucket.

Just another tactic of the left, if your not a crazy insane lefty, and don't want to do and don't go along with every crazy, lunitic idea we have, then you must be the complete opposite and want to destroy everything blah blah blah!!!!!!!!! GET A CLUE!!!!!!!

You are nothing but a mindless sheeple

Kornfed,

Like you are any different? LOL

You might as well hold up a tape recorder to Fox News, then just replay it here. That is basically all you are... a Fox News parrot. If Hannity says it, you say: "yes, master" and do as you're told.

Kornfed,

Like you are any different? LOL

Now that you asked, yes I am. I was never for the war, I believe in conservatism in the true aspect of the word. I believe that people are free to make a choice on abortions. I am not the usual bird on these boards. Ask me a position on something, and you may be surprised.

The extremist environmentalist are opposed because Obama goes too far. The extremist 'free market' parasites are opposed because Obama does not go far enough.

Obama must have gotten this right since he is in the middle with the majority of America.

Bruce-308647

Boy, you KNOW you're having a bad day when you give a policy speech and those on both the right and the left beat you up over it!

Depends on how you look at it. It could mean that he made a good decision... the only time you know is when you piss off BOTH sides.

Nerm_L,

I'd state it just slightly different... The extreme environmentalists are opposed because he goes too far, while the right are opposed because it's Obama.

I am not the usual bird on these boards. Ask me a position on something, and you may be surprised.

Oh please.

Just below you reference a Muslim association to Obama, saying "Allah Akbar!" and sarcastically calling him the messiah. (I'm guessing that was not a Star Wars reference)

In case you didn't notice, it is the REPUBLICANS that are trying to force a religious doctrine on this country. It is the REPUBLICANS that promote the idea of a theocratic, fascist country, ruled by their religious laws. It is the REPUBLICANS who threaten our freedom, and try to force their morals on us.

But like EVERY OTHER Republican on here, you completely ignore that fact and push the "Obama is a Muslim" platform. "Not the usual bird"? Really?

Oh... excuse me... you can mind your own GOD DAMN BUSINESS when it comes to abortion. Well, that's one thing. People should mind their own god damn business. So that puts you slightly above the rest of the Republicans on here, who want bigger government in our personal lives.

Anyone from the oil patch knows that everything he said is a bunch of hooey. The only way I figure he can get through the lies is that he only reads from the teleprompter and it doesn't really register on his brain.

"Some have even made the argument that Keystone's southern leg won't help domestic oil producers much since most of the oil will be coming from Canada."

Well, should we get it from Canada (a friend), or from Venezuela (an enemy)?

900,000 barrels per day at $100 per barrel is $33 Billion per year we could send to Canada instead of Venezuela or the Middle East, and I think we could depend on Canada in an emergency more than Venezuela or the Middle East.

Environmentalists just want us to stop getting oil from ANYONE, so that prices will skyrocket and people won't be able to afford to drive their cars. They would probably be perfectly content if we all lived in caves and used firewood to keep warm - oops, nix the firewood - too much Carbon Dioxide.

DUH.

In case nobody has been reading he news recently, the USA (Oil Companies) have been EXPORTING Oil and Refined Products for a YEAR at World Market Prices.

We, the owners of this Oil, are being paid a pittance per barrel for this Oil if it sells for $20/Bbl or $250/Bbl! Guess who makes the difference? Well, the answer is: The Oil Companies and the Speculators!

I'm old and have a quickly fading memory but it wasn't all that long ago the PRICE OF GAS had to go up to curb consumption because the refineries couldn't produce enough to keep up with our DEMAND!

Now, life has changed and there are EXPORT markets for our OIL and Refined Products at TOP DOLLAR and, suddenly, out of the blue the Refineries are able to produce WAY MORE than WE consume! Gee! I'm so damned surprised!!!

I guess we shouldn't complain too loud. I mean, we are still getting the paltry pennies per barrel no matter what they sell it for! NOT!

This is OUR OIL! It belongs to every citizen of the USA and is a finite resource! How DARE our Government allow it to be sold to other countries? The fact is, we ARE NOW ENERGY INDEPENDENT! Once they drill/pump/refine oil until all of OUR storage facilities are topped off, they need to shut off the pumps/drills/refineries!

With his new Executive Order Obama should ban sales of oil to other countries and bring down prices. Get us off the OPEC price fixing and get the Speculators out of OUR OIL picture! We should be buying oil from ourselves at somewhere SOUTH of $30/barrel, not 3-4 times that we are currently paying!

Picture THAT boost to our economy. At least a $2.00 per gallon savings on gas that almost every citizen MUST purchase to live here in the USA. Or, to put another way, a $2.00/gallon TAX FREE PAY-RAISE!

Just below you reference a Muslim association to Obama, saying "Allah Akbar!" and sarcastically calling him the messiah. (I'm guessing that was not a Star Wars reference)

Read it in the context of the text I quoted and it will make more sense to you. I get the feeling you knew that already though

In case you didn't notice, it is the REPUBLICANS that are trying to force a religious doctrine on this country. It is the REPUBLICANS that promote the idea of a theocratic, fascist country, ruled by their religious laws. It is the REPUBLICANS who threaten our freedom, and try to force their morals on us.

and yet you do not see the detrimental actions of Democrats...Energy market held hostage, financial freedoms held hostage, lack of border control by both Republicans and Democrats...ect ect ect. You are proving to be mindless as well, grats.

Hmm, sems like in spite of obama and the tree huggers, they are going to build the lower leg. It will be a boost to Texas, whoever lays it. Takes lots of money to lay a pipeline across Texas and a little of it will trickle down to all of us, at least it always has.

To be clear about this: I am not advocating we stop or even slow down our quest for alternative energy sources. We do, however, have a 50 YEAR window to find the CORRECT solution given our 100 YEAR oil reserves.

Once the CORRECT solution is found our energy prices should go even further down. Windmills and questionable quality Solar Panels from China are not the answer.

We need to continue making our automobiles more efficient and find ways to save energy at every turn but that, too, is not the final answer. It is merely a stop gap to help the environment!

If we stopped emitting greenhouse gases tomorrow it would only be a few short years until the rest of the world made up for our sacrifice!

"A true all-of-the-above energy strategy would include greater access to areas that are currently off limits, a regulatory and permitting process that supported reasonable timelines for development, and immediate approval of the Keystone XL pipeline to bring more Canadian oil to U.S. refineries," Jack Gerard, president of the American Petroleum Institute,................................................................we got your a$$ in a sling and we're making billions...but we want more. we want to drill under the white house, if we choose. we can control the government just by raiseing gas prices. ...........notice he says ""xl pipeline to bring canadian oil to U.S. refineries", thats as far as that oil goes, to refineries. then it will be exported to china. just keep giving big oil more and more, it will bring prices down...hahahaha... big oil is the drug dealer and america is the addict.

Haha papadave, "This is our oil," you say. Um would that include the fresh water in the great lakes, the flood water from the mississippi, iron ore and gold and whatnot. Never has before!

you do not see the detrimental actions of Democrats

Oh I see it... but it is a function of the lesser of two evils. I will take Democratic policies over some Republican piece of s*** forcing his religious laws on me. I will take expensive Democratic spending over some Republican with baby-fever telling me that my money has to pay the medical bills of everyone who wants to crap out a kid... but they don't want to pay for the medical bills of those who don't add to the over-population problem.

With the Republican push to force more government in my personal life, they are turning into the big government party. Do I like paying for liberal policies? No. But it sure as hell beats this f***ing religious Taliban mentality the GOP has. So I view liberal policies as simply the cost of keeping my freedom from Republicans who can not mind their own god damn business.

lack of border control

and I suppose more border control is free, right? F*** it, not like we are in debt or anything. Let's spend a s***-load on border patrol now too. Where is that money going to come from?

"Santorum & Newt are having gas pains, get the gas from them"

Simple solution for reducing gasoline prices... Inform the oil mega corporations that any oil drilled on our soil in the future can only be used for American consumption.

Of course this would take some balls by our leaders to force those guys to do what's right.

Oh I see it... but it is a function of the lesser of two evils. I will take Democratic policies over some Republican piece of s*** forcing his religious laws on me. I will take expensive Democratic spending over some Republican with baby-fever telling me that my money has to pay the medical bills of everyone who wants to crap out a kid... but they don't want to pay for the medical bills of those who don't add to the over-population problem.

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Obama can't do nothing to lower the price of oil in the short time because he spend almost four years fighting against oil production. Obama can't do nothing to lower the price of oil because the price depend of the global market and our production got nothing to do with it. ( sarcasm) . Kool-aid is not good enough to keep Obama followers workshiping his master.

The price of oil will never go down to any significant degree. Ever. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool that doesn't understand capitalism and Congress. I am of the opinion that Keystone should be permitted only if a minimum of 75% of the resulting petrochemicals are required to be sold in the US. But that will never happen.

I hope all the far right fringe are happy with their comments because they will live forever on the internet. Why?

Keystone XL is going to be built. TransCanada has said it. President Obama has said it.

If Keystone XL does not dramatically lower the cost of gasoline - as the far right fringe has promised - then something else should be used to lower the price of gasoline. That is the objective - that would be fair.

Here is a proposal - if Keystone XL does not lower the price of gasoline - as the far right fringe has promised - then speculative oil trading should be taxed enough to offset the difference.

After all, the objective is to lower the price of gasoline isn't it?

Here is an interesting article about gas prices. Of course, information like this only suggests that the bloated oil industry does not really need Keystone XL.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/0223/As-gas-prices-rise-should-US-oil-industry-stop-exporting

Yes, this is from the 'liberal' Christian Science Monitor. The far right fringe always labels anything that does not support their views as 'liberal', don't they?

My own quote....

You people can scream all day that the president cannot control gas prices! Why is he going on this energy tour and changing his position on the pipeline?

Because people don't even know who his vice president is, and you want them (average joe public) to know about global economics? Ha Ha Ha!


You say how evil big oil is but they only make $0.06 on every gallon of gas, yet the GOVERNMENT TAKES well over $1.00 per gallon in taxes...

Keystone pipe won't lower the price of gas but, will bring jobs and oil from the north and is more reliable than the oil from the golf, specially with the bad weather. After 4 years fighting against oil production on public lands there is not hope to get prices down in a short time. The next president will do. Drill baby, drill. More American oil= lower price, more American oil = less dependency from foreign countries

Pipelines are much safer than oil tankers and pollute less. The United States is always trying to get a pipeline built in the middle east but when it comes to building one here everybody goes nuts?

I guarantee you the oil MEGA CORPORATIONS make more than 6 cents per gallon of gasoline, and people should realize that they will continue to make even more per gallon than they do now, with the blessing of Congress!

@Voter-in-LA

Notice something? Yup, those states already had pipelines...

That's like saying "I've driven drunk before and nothing happened, what difference does it make if I drive drunk again?"

Obama promised change, he has completed the complete conversion to just another politician. If I close my eyes, I can't tell the difference between Obama, Romney, Bush, Cheney, Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, McConnell ....

After listerning to the republican candidates and frankly most that I hear from the congress; it is inconcievealbe that you would dare call Obama a liar. He is the most honest man we have had in that office in years. He is though human and I most certainly did not expect perfection as you seem to think he promised, but conservatives have lost their way and will not win this election based on the price of gas and if you do win for that; this country would deserve what happens as we go back wards to big government conservatives.

The government got bigger under Bush / Reagan than it has under Clinton / Obama.

Bill you sir have been duped.

Wow bill you must have been stuck in basement. The government is bigger under Clinton and Bush...tha Obama...no chance

Romney, Santorum, Paul, Newt, Michele Bachman, 999 man, Perry....etc...........The brightest of the republicans,..........Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha so true! We thought Bush was the craziest crackpot, it even gets worse.....His mother said he would ruin the country........mother knows best!

He kinda sounds like Mitt Romney, telling people what they want to hear,huh?

"The GOPigs and their Tea Retarded buddies have a new Slogan-Drill baby Drill-and the hell with this country's Environment."

The oil companies can go straight to hell! That gwaddamn keystone pipeline won't help us one whit. Are we going to keep that oil for ourselves? Are we gonna put a cap on speculative oil, gas, and fuel pricing? Are we gonna cut out all government subsidies to oil producers? Right now we can't even burn gasoline and fuel, refined from oil sands in this country. Gonna change those rules? Want the country to be so covered in smog we can't breath or see each other? All this is nothing but a large pile of BS. Speculative investment has shot this country all to hell. Wanna fix it? Shoot that industry all to hell! Let the investment community go back to dividend yields. At least cut the gwaddamn greed down from a 400 pound hog on steroids to the size an up and coming Shoalt!

Oil companies can go straight to hell and you go with them Mc Forrester. Our live is around oil we depend of oil to live, not only for energy , for clothes, houses, cars, computers and on and on and on. Until we find alternatives for oil we are stuck with it, we must produce more oil.

Bill,

You have no idea what you are talking about. Obama has increased more of the national debt in 3 years than bush did in 8.

Oskar-1391552#3.9: Maybe you'll donate your head to them now, then someday, after you die, donate the rest of yourself. Ought'a be an extra quart for 'em.

Yeah...your logo says it all...

Fox News much, Steven?

I think he get his news from a couple of sources, Fox and Fox with Friends.

Fox News: AM radio with pictures.

I wonder who Steven is quoting? It's not the president.

Oh come on now libbies. You know you are closet Fox News watchers...kind of like how I am a closet MSNBC reader...have to get my daily chuckle some how, you know.

The price is sky-high because the speculators know Obama will try to block the drilling we need, so they bid the price up.

They are betting Obama is a roadblock to success, driving our cost up.

Steven,

Your first statement is dead on. I've never seen nor have I heard of president who will say one thing then completely reverse himself 10 minutes later especially if people don't like what he said. It's called trying to be transparent while you kiss a$$.

But I hope we hold, truely hold him to one of his campaign promises - being a ONE-TERM president.

You libs crack me up with your dogging of Fox News. We all know you get yours from Lean FAR TO THE LEFT MSNBC!! I bet you even know the date Ralph Maddow's had her sex-change operation. I bet you know the exact moment Chris Mathews had the tingle up his leg when Obama became President.

Pedestrian-in-SF,

Buy gas much?

To those who always claim FOX is so negative to oboso - you sound just like the head dummy - "it's Bushs' fault, it's Bushs' fault, it's Bushs' fault" three years into his administration. In other words blind stupidity.

Fox News....blah, blah, blah....And MSNBC is so much better why? Oh, that's right...because they are actively cheerleading for Obama and the liberal agenda.....God forbid a news organization NOT have a liberal slant....

Richard.. I guess you've never heard Mitt Romney speak.

So many people saying that libs bash fox news and bush but all I see over and over are conservatives bashing msnbc and obama. Even the top commenter's avatar is an msnbc jab. Just the pot calling the kettle black I guess...

The pipeline will not lower prices of gas. The only thing it will do is take oil to the cost so it can be sold on the world market at higher prices. There are twice as many oil rigs now then with the last President and oil production is up 20% price still rise and there as been lower demand on top of that. More oil rigs and drilling cost money there for higher price to pay for them. With all of those things gas prices are a direct reflection of the oil companies and speculators not anything the President has done or not done.

Steve is 100% correct. 3.00 a gallon gas makes electric cars not financially sound to buy or invest in. The gas prices have to go up to at least 5 bucks a gallon maybe upwards to 8 dollars a gallon to make an electric car even wanted by the consumer.

Obama and Democrats Blast Bush for High Gas Prices in 2008

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=49766

Energy Secretary Chu Embraces High Gas Prices

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/03/21/energy-secretary-chu-embraces-high-gas-prices-again/

The irony of the statements made on the republican side is that if you go back and watch FOX "news" when Bush was still president and gas went over $4 a gallon they were constantly touting how the president has no effect on the price gas... fast forward to now and it is somehow all Obama's fault that gas prices are rising. Truth be told, a minimal amount of research reveals that it is speculators that cause the price of gas to rise and it has very little to do with supply.

side note: Instead of building a pipeline all the way across the country why not build a new refinery in Montana? That eliminates the environmental concerns of running a pipeline across the country and creates more refined oil which is what we need while creating permenant jobs in the United States? Why is this horrific idea of the keyston pipeline the only option?

The idea of a refinery in Montana is the smartest thing said on this entire pile of bs! I have been waiting for somebody to say it.

Give what Montana has gone through with having to clean-up from past industries probably not.

jak, the environmentalistswon't let us build any refineries. There fore it has to go by truck, or Warren Buffets trains, therefore using more gas and making everything go up in price.

side note: Instead of building a pipeline all the way across the country why not build a new refinery in Montana?

Todd, it's not the refinery they need - it's the ability to export to other countries that they want. They're happy to run the risk of polluting OUR country in order to get those international dollars though. I guess we will get all the jobs... cleaning up the mess.

Mary. Honey. Educate yourself. There are plenty of refineries much closer to Canada than Texas. The reason they want to transport this mess to Texas is so that they can easily ship it out to other countries. That nonsense about Buffets trains is crazy talk.

I want a refinery in Montana too and I was born and raised in Montana. Don't give me that "you'r a not in my back yard person"....

ExxonMobil pipe spills oil into Yellowstone River - US news ...

Crews Clean Up Gas Spill In Stevensville - News Story - NBCMontana ...

Angry at Exxon, Montana uses own spill center - US news ...

msnbc.com environment - ExxonMobil pipe spills oil into ...

Montana Governor Presses For Answers On Resources For Oil Clean-Up ...

It sounds like he's also taking credit for the drilling permits issued under Bush. After all, it takes more than three years to go from permit to production. There's no chance any permits issued under his administration are producing yet.

The ONLY portion of a pipeline than needs federal permission is the little segment that crosses an INTERNATIONAL BORDER!

Anywhere else he has no say. None. Not on private property.

Scooter Tramp...

Ain't that the truth.

I'm a registered Dem, though I didn't vote for Obama...there was just something about all the "PROMISES" to be DIFFERENT...

The BREAKING point for me was the healthcare debacle, and his PROMISES for the MOST TRANSPARENT Administration...

NO "back room" negotiations, right? It's ALL gonna be TELEVISED ON C-SPAN, right? So the American people can clearly see what's going on, right??

Hmm....

Then came Senator Ben Nelson's back-room deal for Nebraska....

THAT did it for me. Once a lying cheat, ALWAYS a lying cheat...

If you were one of those that fell for his "HOPE AND CHANGE" bull@!$%#, AT LEAST be honest enough to admit to yourself (you're sure not gonna do it on a public forum) that you were FOOLED.

He is nothing but another, self-serving POLITICIAN, and poor excuse for a leader, at that.

F U LaScooter tramp - Do you really think that you people come from a higher moral ground than do democrats? do you really think your the only ones working and that there are no poor on food stamp republicans. You are wrong -wrong - wrong- and the hypocritical nature of all your conservative post amaze me.

I am growing more disgusted by the minute when you people are accusing the President of lying; when it has been proved over and over again, that the president does not control the price of gas. You just keep tellilng the lie on lie on lie; then accuse the other party of being lazy and immoral.

Disgusting, hateful and the ruination of common sense, and the unity of the country.

Mike 306915

I am a republican who voted for Bush Jr. the first time, but not the second. I also voted for Obama the first time, and I am real close to my decision on the second (if you follow the pattern).

I fell for the hope and change because I was completely put off by the direction of the republican party - then and now. But it looks like it will come down to who I hate less... That, or I won't vote at all...

Bill 314065 - Easy Buddy... Blaming Obama for gas prices is NO DIFFERENT than the democratic party railing against "Bush and his oil crony friends" as the reason gas topped $4 under the previous administration. There was no mercy for Bush on this issue......................

The president has done numerous thing by executive mandate...why not interfere with oil speculation. He interferes with numerous other things. Birth control.....for one.

Obama could make the price of gas DROP DOWN this minute by doing this:

He could make a public statement at a press conference saying "I here by discontinue ALL BANS on drilling on Federal land and offshore.

We would have $2 gas by the weekend, because speculators will stop betting that Obama is a roadblock to energy success.

And HOW did President Bush LOWER the price to only $1.87 a gallon then?
He did it by dropping the federal ban on offshore drilling.

Obama put the BAN back on, then cancelled most drilling permits, and now prices are sky-rocketing.

Willing sniper - you are making the assumption that speculation is the sole cause of the current runnup in pump prices and that we have the capacity to immediately get the oil out of the grouned and refined. Neither of which is true.

I do agree with you that obama is the biggest roadblock to America moving forward. He has the rhetoric of mohamid ali (cassius clay) and ability to float like a butterfly from issue to issue but when it comes to any actual delivery to sting like a bee, he can't deliver.

Errrr, the 2007-2008 recession had more to do with the large drop in pump prices than anything bush2 did.

Fact: The price of gasoline will be unaffected by this pipeline.
Fact: Drill baby drill will not affect the price of gasoline.

Fact: gasoline is being artificially inflated in cost by speculators encouraged of course by the oil companies who

Fact: are making more profits than anytime in history while still sucking on the government (republican) tit.

Fact: Turmoil in the middle East has a lot to do with speculators getting away with gouging. This was proven in 2003, when it became clear the Bush administration was planning to go into Iraq, gasoline prices doubled almost overnight.

Fact: Republicans are once again beating the war drums on Iran. God help us if the next in a long line of "chickenhawks" actually gets a say.

Fact: America is exporting oil and oil products.

Fact: The Obama administration has not disapproved the pipeline, only objected to the industries and their Republican lemmings demand that it be fast tracked around the EPA despite objections from Republican governors over it's route. The oil and gas industry lobbyists are in hyperdrive trying to ram this down our throats, note they will not guarantee any price relief from this pipline and indeed intend to sell the gas overseas, The Republicans won't introduce legislation that will keep the oil here. Go frack yourselves.

Fact: these tar sands are the dirtiest, most environmentally destructive extracted oil currently being produced, unless of course you talk about Halliburton/BP deep water drilling. At the gulf terminus the tar sand toxic residue will have to be disposed of, how and where?

Fact: supply is up demand is down. This should according to the "free market" people should have lowered the price of oil, proving supply and demand have little to do with a resource that has peaked and will continue to decline in the coming years.

Opinion: When energy companies can figure out a way to charge people for sunlight, and politicians aren't bought off by the oil lobbyists, we'll have the renewable/sustainable energy we need.

Opinion: Republicans are hell bent on providing for their corporate masters to the detriment of the American people and the destruction of this planet. and.........

Opinion: Republicans suck.

Pat...

Please...some links to your so-called "facts" or you get to read some of my "facts"...

Fact: Obama is no leader

Fact: Obama is a liar

Fact: Obama was a junior senator with no experience managing anything prior to he being elected POTUS.

Fact: Obama has big ears

Opinion: Obama, Biden, Holder, Reid, Pelosi, and all his Czars and other cronies suck out loud!

Easy Buddy... Blaming Obama for gas prices is NO DIFFERENT than the democratic party railing against "Bush and his oil crony friends" as the reason gas topped $4 under the previous administration. There was no mercy for Bush on this issue......................

Concernedone: One small DIFFERENCE. Obama did not start a war on an oil-producing country and destabilize the entire region. Western oil companies wanted in on Iraq and guess what? The first western oil company since 1972 in Iraq opened for business and they're pumping 3 million barrels a day and expecting to expand that to 12 million by 2017. Oil was over $4 a barrel and record profits were recorded until the economy crashed at the end of 2008.

Me Too..

Increasing supply will definitely reduce prices. Just look at the oil embargo in the 1970's. When supplies were restricted prices went through the roof.

It is kind of funny that we have 6 times more drilling rigs in the U.S. (almost 1200 today) than we did in 2007 (little over 200), but gas prices keep going up, even though the Right (they should be called the Wrongs) keep preaching that domestic oil production will drop prices. We need more refineries built, and stop exporting our oil. That is how oil prices will drop... Get your facts straight...

http://www.greenchipstocks.com/articles/drilling-will-not-reduce-gas-prices/1658

Kudos, Reality. This is actually a drill-friendly president. He got major flack from enviromentalists because his admin had approved so many (prior to the BO spill, mostly). Slowing down this pipeline installation in certain states is just reasonable becuase of the proposed path, but he is demonized for showing reasonable restraint. This pipeline will happen, once it is re-routed. But even if it happened tomorrow, you are still paying $4 a gallon gas.

May be increased demand since the 1970 have some effect on rising prices. But I know that correlation is hard for a lib to figure out!!!

@ rearley1980

I agree...but don't forget that the "Seven Sisters"--the big oil companies--have an agreement with the Justice Department to be able to set SUPPLY to control prices without being taken to court in violation of US Antitrust legislation. Then add a convoluted Commodity System which then allows specualtion--which it should not given. Being able control Supply OIL SHOULD BE TAKE OFF THE COMMODITIES MARKET. THE USA SHOULD CONSIDER NATIONALIZING A PERCENTAGE OF THE CORPORATIONS which Britain did in the 1950's. Stay out of wars.

The XL pipeline will not substantially incease the US oil/gasoline supply. Everything that goes through it will be sold on the international market. That, in turn, may indirectly increase our supply incrementally, but a decade from now when this whole G.D. thing is finally finished, it is not going to affect gas prices very much.

This is actually a drill-friendly president. He got major flack from enviromentalists because his admin had approved so many (prior to the BO spill, mostly).

Oil Production on Federal Lands was down 275,000 barrels/day in 2011. Oil production on private lands increased 395,000 barrels/day. That doesn't sound like the President is very "drill-friendly"

Slowing down this pipeline installation in certain states is just reasonable becuase of the proposed path, but he is demonized for showing reasonable restraint.

You are making the assumption that the states are incapable of standing up for the environment in their own backyard. I think that the state governments and their citizens would have the most at stake in this decision, so why is it going to be made in Washington D.C. to begin with? The only involvement from the Feds should be at the international boundary and at the state boundaries, other than that, it should be left up to the states.

The President is showing "reasonable restraint"? What gives the President the authority to take action on a route through states anyways? So he is showing restraint from exercising powers that he doesn't have?

Rearly, Your funny ! Not even the Democratic Senate back this weak leader We have. Never has the government been so dysfuntional, and I'm talking in the history of this country. Do You think maybe Your boy Barry has a little to do with this. Did You see He signed a bill that will allow the secret service to arrest protesters where the secret service is present, and charge them with a felony offense ? Is that something You Libs want to see ??

realy1980,

Natural Gas prices have dropped 15% in the last 5 years..why...because of fracking in the upper midwest, PA, WV, and othere areas and the increase in production. We are estimated to have 3 times the natural gas that Saudi Arabia has and also 3x their oil reserves in the shale deposits in the USA. My heating bill has dropped by about 15 % and more adjusted for the "non-inflation" we are experiencing. The Natural Gas Act of 2011 allows incentives for heavy duty truck and bus vehicle manufacturers to produce Natural gas driven vehicles. By the way these vehicles are mainly diesel powerered and will be a huge boost to cleaning the air quality. Homes will begin converting from oil to gas as the savings benefit will offset the conversion costs and then some. Electric plants are also being converted from Coal/oil to Natural Gas power. All of these will affect prices. Allowing for increased oil production should, along with the lowering of demand for oil as noted above, have downward pressure on gas prices. However at the very least thousands of jobs US JOBS will be created by increasing oil output. The left in this country is not so much in favor of environmental conditions as it is in favor of diminishing the country by any means possible. Replacing oil, coal, diesel with gas in itself will reduce emmisions tremendously which should be supported by the left but don't hold your breath waiting for this to happen. Can't wait to see the greenies ride in their solar powered airplanes!

@ weaselyone, read up in this thread a bit, to a post made by a resident of the state of NE. The State of Nebraska had a MAJOR problem (Republican Governor to boot) with the proposed path of the pipeline....hence its delay. The Republicans in the Congress wanted the pipeline's path green lighted immediately, without the state having the ability to be heard, thus the President DID show reasonable restraint in not caving to the demands of the Republicans at that time. There is now a new route proposed that is less objectionable. Your hatred of the POTUS is clouding your reasoning.

downwiththe bolsheviks, please site your source for the creation of "thousands of jobs" by expanded drilling? The companies that do the drilling send crews from site to site for work....the job creation impact will be minimal...and temporary. Also, where is natural gas use not supported by the left? I'm as liberal as they come and I am all for domestic natural gas as part of the country's overall energy solution. I'd prefer that it be used here, in this country, if extracted here however...and not sold on the world market where it will be subject to speculation. Another question too, why were the Republicans in the house and senate so hell bent against a resolution to keep oil that is extracted in the US in the US for our country's consumption only? That seems that it would have been a fine way to keep the cost of gas down at the pump don't you think?

@ weaselyone, read up in this thread a bit, to a post made by a resident of the state of NE. The State of Nebraska had a MAJOR problem (Republican Governor to boot) with the proposed path of the pipeline....hence its delay. The Republicans in the Congress wanted the pipeline's path green lighted immediately, without the state having the ability to be heard, thus the President DID show reasonable restraint in not caving to the demands of the Republicans at that time. There is now a new route proposed that is less objectionable. Your hatred of the POTUS is clouding your reasoning.

I don't hate the President. That comment is absurd. I only said one thing negative about him, "He is not drill-friendly". Maybe your blind faith is clouding your reasoning.

I admit that Governor Heineman stepped in it by calling for a halt to the pipeline route through our state. By doing this, he opened the door for Obama to play to his base and score political points. I now go back to my main point. Why should Obama or anyone in Washington be able to approve or disapprove of a pipeline through Nebraska? That is what most Nebraskans, and the Governor, were objecting to.

Chudd

I agree with you if the oil companies want to partake in the world oil market as the Russians, Iranians, Dutch, British, Nigerians, etc do . I think their execs should be arrested and if they continue to do so lined up and shot. This oughta fix em' good. Why should our country get involved in such sordid business as allowing oil companies to sell their products in a free market system to make some dirty profit, yeah that's it. Its that dirty profit thing. we should just let rest of the world like those upstanding ex commies in Russia and the wonderful nations like Iran make all the money. I agree and if shooting the execs doesn't do the trick lets just confiscate the oil and give it free to all american after all its ours right? Yeah and those transient jobs there just nothing say compared to say a permanent drone government job right? Yeah I am fired up after reading your note. Next lets have the government take over food production. Those robbers at Cargill need to be taken out. Imagine them making money off selling food....then we can take over mining..yeah

Your President's terrible energy policies are not the cause of rising gas prices. It's his horrible fiscal policy, and the Federal Reserve's policy of allowing it to happen by monetizing the budget deficits. We are simply printing money faster than Oil can be extracted. You think the Saudis are going to allow us to just print a ton of money and sell us their oil at the same price before we did so? If that was the case the solution to everything would be to just print money. Unfortunately we don't live in the land of OZ and prices will rise due to inflation. Bought groceries, gas, or paid your utility bill lately? If people are going to allow President Obama to continue his big government spending, and massive budget deficits, you're going to have to also accept the consequences: higher gas prices and a higher cost of living due to inflation. FACT.

downwiththe bolsheviks, Who said anything about the US getting the oil for free? Good to know that you have no real interest in lowering the cost of oil here in the US, but rather, you'd like to use the high prices to blame others while the culprits run to the bank. Way to think it through. When the gas prices continue to rise, even though our consumption is down and our production is up, you're the first guy we should all call for answers.

What was you're solution again? That's right FREE MARKET.....that's working out great right now. Especially since the country's #1 export right now is refined gasoline....how's supply and demand supposed to work in a free market again???

@ weaselyone, I apologize if I mis-characterized you as hating the POTUS, I actually might have read that in a pretty hateful rant above yours. It was my understanding that the pipeline needed approval from the Federal Government because it is international commerce, and there were concerns for the Ogallala Aquifer raised by ranchers and the Nebraska government. I'm glad the pipeline's originally proposed path was changed so not to endanger the water supply there if there were ever a leak. I also have a big issue with the way Trans Canada has been strong arming ranchers for the land they need to build the pipeline, using eminent domain in many cases with support from state politicians...I believe that's being taken up by the states however.

He hasn't "shot" anything down. Did you read the article? Do you understand why some states are concerned of having this filthy product piped through their territory near their water supply?

How can he approve a design, that has not yet been submitted?? Please do explain how that is done.

The ONLY portion of a pipeline than needs federal permission is the little segment that crosses an INTERNATIONAL BORDER!

Anywhere else he has no say. None. Not on private property

The southern leg is useless without the northern leg.

So you're saying Oklahoma and Texas have no oil.

Here's a better idea why not just build refineries in North Dakota.

Edward and pedestrian, please check out the history behind the pipeline approval process.

As of around august 2011 there was 3 years worth of studies done on the pipeline and its routing alternatives. Obama and company were set to approve approve it 4Q 2011. The nebraska governor had 2nd thoughts because of its routing past part of the ogallala aquifer

Obama in his thinking chose to ignore all the previous EPA studies over the 3 years and kicked the can down the road untill after the 2012 elections. So know he has sold both of you on the need to have another three yaers spent in going over studies already done.

Rather like what he did last spring when gas prices peaked and he said that the causes would be studied. This year he again said he would study high gas prices. Take into account that both he and pelosi slammed bush2 in 2008 for high gas prices as well, we have the perfect scenarion that he doesn't really care about anything except a second term.

BTW edward, you make it sound like pipilines have never been designed or built before or that the pipefitters and steamfitters unions are a bunch of incompetents. I suggest you go down to their local union hall and tell it to them face to face.

Here's a better idea why not just build refineries in North Dakota.

I'm sure the oil companies haven't looked at that as an option, maybe you could get an investment group together and pursue it. Although, I probably wouldn't invest. Something tells me if it were profitable or feasible that it would already be done.

Better yet, why not just build refineries in Canada, let them deal with the messy bits and just send us the nice clean gasoline.

I, dunno, I'm not a petroleum chemist, but I would imagine it's got something to do with the colder external temperatures making it more difficult to do the refining, else why would almost all of our refineries be in the south where the weather is mild.

John bayner - actually it is my understanding that the cushing, oklahoma site is a bottleneck and the southern pipeline is to bring oil from the south for refining at cushing. Anyone feel free to correct me on the specifics of the cushing bottleneck.

Weaslyone...

Last time I checked a refinery costs about $12 billion to build vs the about $7 billion for a pipeline from canada to texas.

Next one has to take into account the environmental impact that such a large refinery would have to address plus the new infrastructure required to transport all of the refined oil products to market.

MikeyMike, interesting observation on the temperature angle.

You are correct and this bullcrap of claiming credit for anything good which managed to happen in spite of him and blaming all his screw ups and spending wastes on someone else is enough to make one nausiated. It flat out insulting that he and his Obamanites really believe people with the brains God gave a Goose are going to believe his Bull!

Pedestrian-in-SF

He hasn't shot anything down? REally?? Did you forget he refused the permit for the pipeline? Did you forget he was on the phone all day lobbying against the approval of the legislation that would have allowed the pipeline to happen? I know the air is rare in SF but you must wake up sometimes.

I'm sure you do not want the truth about the keystone xl pipeline, this was on fox news. type this on your pc. six reasons why the keystone xl was a bad idea all along

Willing Sniper: The ONLY portion of a pipeline than needs federal permission is the little segment that crosses an INTERNATIONAL BORDER! Anywhere else he has no say. None. Not on private property

It's not that simple.

The federal government has other concerns. What if the pipeline affects roadways and interstates? What if one landowner is fine with the project, but his neighbor is not.

What happens if there is a leak or a spill? Will each individual landowner take care of his own part of the spill? Will they expect the federal government's help? What happens if the landowner's ground water is contaminated. Where else will the landowner go for clean water?

These are all issues for the federal government.

If each landowner has his own rights, why are there reports that TransCanada is buying or seizing land along the proposed pipeline route?

It's not that simple.

The federal government has other concerns. What if the pipeline affects roadways and interstates? What if one landowner is fine with the project, but his neighbor is not.

Does the pipeline affect roadways and interstates? I highly doubt. What does the Fed have to do with general roadways anyways? I understand Interstates, but either way, every state has their own roads departments to work through these issues.

As far as landowners, each state has their own imminent domain laws. Again, what is the Federal Government providing here that the states can't handle?

What happens if there is a leak or a spill? Will each individual landowner take care of his own part of the spill? Will they expect the federal government's help? What happens if the landowner's ground water is contaminated. Where else will the landowner go for clean water?

This was already addressed in the original application and TransCanada would be responsible for cleanup costs, providing alternate water sources, etc.

These are all issues for the federal government.

Why? Are you assuming that states are incapable of standing up for the environment in their own backyard?

If each landowner has his own rights, why are there reports that TransCanada is buying or seizing land along the proposed pipeline route?

TransCanada is being granted easements, landowners are being compensated for the land. Our Federal Government did similar things when constructing our Interstates. They also continually add more Right of Way to the sides of existing highways and interstates and compensate landowners.

Kinda like Mr Etch-a-Sketch??

Are you talking about Romney?

While I am not impressed by romney's gaffes, I am even less impressed by obamas extensive campaign rhetoric and his inability to deliver. Don't you wonder why all of our past presidents have found a way to lead and work with congress and obama can't, even when he had a democrat controlled congress?

Try and get out of the stone age. What about Obamacare, then you have the pea party red necks of not just no but hell no.

So you fault him for changing his position based on majority...every politician since the time that polling began has done exactly this...it shows that he is willing to cm monitor and adjust rather than stonewall like the Republicans in Congress....

Stephanie, Obama does not give a hoot what the people want, he never has. He only wants what is good for himself. He wants to be re-elected, the polls show the people want the pipeline so he now needs to make a show of wanting the pipeline.

His real goal is to shut down drilling in the US, drive up the price of oil and try to force the American people to support green technology that is not currently cost effective.

Doris, respectfully before you and others make a judgement on what you think the president is doing perhaps a little research would do. Check out an article by Mark Clayton regarding the Keystone pipeline proposal that appeared on March 9th entitled "How much would Keystone pipeline help US consumers?" Information within the article came from both the Canadian oil company as well as the feds and other sources. I'd read this before I'd make any further suppositions or comments regarding the Keystone issue. The link is below and be sure you read carefully the facts that were submitted by the Canadian oil company CEO. This pipeline not only will not reduce or drive down in any manner the price of gas it will drive it up in sections of our country. I'd pay particular attention to the increased fuel costs to farmers. How much of that cost will be transferred to the average American consumer nation wide in regards to food is at question? After reading the article I"d sure love to know how in the heck this is going to benefit us because most of the studies and data show the direct opposite. This is political pandering and fear tactics for campaign purposes pure and simple. Anyone who believes differently should stick with reading Soap Opera magazine as inquiring minds always think they know.

Doris, my apology the link didn't attached so here it is..

I might add a study published by Cornell University entitled "Pipe Dreams," it breaks down the pro's and con's. This article can be viewed at...

Again, the article and report generate a lot more questions especially the urgent push to move foreward with this project.

The Demand for oil worldwide is INCREASING @ AN INCREASING RATE ...which means the price is destined to ALWAYS GO UP at current rates of production. Speculators know this --many of whom are oil companies themselves. Better to burn others oil rather than use up our limited reserves in the event of world war.

The damages from the ongoing and increasing use of fossil fuels is also "widespread".

1) Global temperatures are rising due to the increasing levels of CO2 (and no, don't tell me it's because the sun is getting hotter, that lie has long since been debunked), this is leading to increased numbers of dangerous storms such as tornados (twice the normal average so far this year) and hurricanes. These weather problems are only going to get worse.

2) Air pollution in the form of mercury and sulfur dioxide from coal burning and carbon monoxide from car exhaust , is causing increasing health problems such as asthma, COPD, and possibly even lung cancers. Also acid rain is degrading the forests in many of the most productive lumber producing areas. This will increase the cost of Construction materials.

3) None of these external cost damages are included in the price of fuel that you pay at the pump. If these externals were included, and if the billions in tax subsidies were removed, the actual market value of the gas would be reflected in what you would pay.

But why would anyone want that? So what? I like it warmer!! Let Florida get flooded. Let the kids choke to death. I just want to keep fillin' up mah SUV's gas tank fer cheap. Yee-haw!

I think he is trying and only can CONTROL BOTH POLICY AND DEBATE AN AGENDA. Where are the Republicans and any energy alternatives legislation--they control the House!! They are still wandering around with their heads up their asses believing the FREE MARKET SYSTEM WILL SOLVE EVERYTHING ? Screw the gas prices at the pump!! Big Oil could increase supply if they wanted to but what incentive do they have? High prices have more to do with speculators and Big Oil pissed because subsidies may be cut affecting their bottom line. Keystone oil won't make it into US market UNLESS THE REPUBLICANS START AND PASS LEGISLATION to force Canada to sign an agreement to such a plan! Conservatives...you like your gas guzzling SUV and 4x4's so quit complaning about the prices...and you like the COMMODITY MARKETS AS THEY ARE allowing them to take advantage of a sure thing-- A MONOPOLY GUARRANTEED BY THE JUSTICE SYSTEM !! Oil prices will always go up just like bread and milk...especially with 3rd nations coming online with emerging economies.

One thing is for sure you can not fix stupid. It was george h. bush and sons that are in bed and have been for over 40 years with the Saudi's. They are partners as we speak. I'll say one thing, replubicians never use actual facts. first they have to bend and twist every piece of truth out of it.

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requisition a unicorn from the magical lib fantasy world of lala land, hell you'll even get a tax subsidy for it from the obomanites, it may take awhile though, mines been on order for three years now..............................:)

Do you suffer from memory loss? Perhaps you have forgotten those magical, and yet taboo (especially since it is inconvenient) years of 2000-2008.

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,how will I get to work?

Hey man, don't go to work, get on the government teat like all these idiots on here who can't think for theirselves!

we haven't built a new refinery in the United States since the late 1970's. It is nearly impossible to get a new, modern one built, and so refinery companies have to expand the current ones. Building refinery capacity or converting to natural gas as a fuel source would help decrease gasoline costs.

Anyone hear of OIL SPECULATION ???

The real reason gas prices are so high ??

But pity those poor speculators paying those LOW taxes.

TAX THE RI$H and TAX THE CORPORATIONS SENDING JOBS OVERSEAS !!

The problem, though, Hannah, is that Obama himself constantly criticized Bush and the GOP back in 07 and 08 for not doing anything to lower the cost of the pump when he was campaigning. And now he can't handle the fact that some people are doing it right back to him. To use the old playground cliche...he can dish it out but he can't take it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

World consumption is increasing at an INCREASING RATE. So...it does not matter that production is high. It is high here in the US but there is no MANDATE REQUIRING SUPPLIERS TO SELL ONLY IN THE USA MARKET--ends up on world market. Nice that Bush #43 destablized the ME further than it already was. Do you really expect one man with NO CONGRESS (remember the party of "NO") that would help to set an agenda or even contributing to an energy policy--to turn things around in 3 years? Only contributing sound bites and slogans pandering to the far rights mentality--they are still watching John Wayne reruns on TV !!

The oil companies have us by the short hairs. They know we can't survive without it, so they'll price it as high as they feel they can get away with it. Period.

Gasoline prices are set on the world market and even though we are using less gasoline than we have in recent years and producing more the world's consumption has increased because countries such as China and India are putting more vehicles on the road so we subtract and they add and the net result is gas is still going to cost us more. A better solution for us would be to put money into mass transit, develop cars that run on electricity, natural gas, or fuel cells and make sure the ones that do use gasoline get as much mileage as possible. It would be better for our national security and the environment and perhaps we could finally do away with this drill baby drill delusion.

Oil prices are based on GREED.

Ok economists, one more stupid question. what would happen if a taxed was placed on oil exports. one that is high enough to encourage keeping the oil in the US? Then, just a thought, use that money to build newer more efficient refinery's. Again, I apologize for asking a stupid question.

Leftist

If the oil is going to be exported from the Gulf why does TransCanada have contracts with the Gulf Refineries?

The markets for crude oil served by TransCanada's Keystone pipeline system are primarily refiners in the U.S. Midwest, midcontinent and Gulf Coast regions. TransCanada competes with pipelines that deliver WCSB, Williston Basin and Permian Basin crude oil to these refiners through interconnections with other pipelines. Keystone also competes with U.S. domestically-produced crude oil and imported crude oil for refining markets in the U.S. Midwest, Midcontinent and Gulf Coast regions.

http://www.transcanada.com/investor/annual_reports/2011/mda/oil_pipelines/business_risks/index.html

Now think of this. They would have to use the small tankers to get thru the Panama Canal then to China. Do you think that is cost effective? Or they could use the super tankers and go around the Cape of Good Hope then to China. Is that cost effective? It seems that the export argument is bogus at best.

The Canadian response to opposition to the approval of the XL pipeline has basically been, "Fine, if you don't want us to pump it down to you in the lower 48, then we'll just send it west to the coast and then over to China, and you won't get any of it. Nyah, nyah, nya, nya, nyaaah!"

No LeeSoCal, it's because they have every reason to believe Iran and they are well aware that Obama is not being truthful! Oil production on leases controlled by the Fed. is down by 40%! The increases are on private land and leases controlled by the States and granted before Obama even took office!

It's because Obama's oil permits take about 10 years to actually start producing anything. If the Iranians shut down the Straight of Hormuz, it'd impact actual supply in a matter of days. If Obama issues a permit, we won't see a drop for about a decade.

Incidentally, it was the same with Bush's permits. That means that the 'record production' we're seeing today is actually thanks to permits Bush issued 10 years ago. Guess what, that one IS Bush's fault.

The business of oil exploration is just that. The geology of a region will indicate the likely presence of fossil fuels but test wells need to be drilled to determine if a reserve is there and just how to exploit it. This process takes years not a few days so, we are now seeing the completion of the exploitation of the domestic fields the industry identified when GW Bush was in office. Every time you libtards claim "Big Oil Greed" is responsible for the current shortage and threaten sanctions, increased taxes and more regulation the companies that must invest several billion of their money to develop an oil field just say "why should I" and you get what we have now after three years of sustained meddling in the market place by morons like yourself and Barack Obama. His policies drove the price so live with your mistake. It's going to cost the HNIC his job and I will be laughing at him and you as Mitt Romney makes his acceptance speech and his staffers boot Obama out on his skinny backside.

yes, but uncertainty isn't just in Iran it is with the direction of US drilling. OB won't allow new drilling (even though he keeps saying he has) so there is a level of uncertainty caused by OB

Right! Speculation vs true supply and demand. My question was more why does the cost of fuel change in a day on news from Iran or a shut down for maintence. The supply or the demand have not changed significantly in that day. That oil/fuel has already been produced, not future oil coming through the straight of Hormuz.

Are gas prices based more on speculation and big oil greed then supply and demand?

In a word, yes.

Speculators in oil should not be allowed ot exist. It is an ALWAYS WIN SITUATION FOR THEM with world demand rising.

If people would stop being partisan and be an INDEPENDENT THINKER, they would realize that usually when someone ticks off both sides of an issue, they are doing the right thing and it's called COMPROMISE, a word Republicans seem to think is dirty.

There is a huge difference between compromise and flip flop.