Judge: Texas boy kidnapped 8 years ago shouldn't see parents for now

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Miguel Morin was 8 months old when he was kidnapped in 2004.

HOUSTON — A court ruled Wednesday that a boy who was kidnapped eight years ago shouldn't be reunited with his natural mother and father.

Miguel Morin, 8, was kidnapped in November 2004. He was 8 months old when he disappeared.

Miguel was found earlier this month after a woman turned in her sister, Krystle Rochelle Tanner. Tanner has been charged with felony kidnapping.

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Fernando Morin and Auboni Champion-Morin have been proven to be Miguel's parents, but a judge said Wednesday that they should not see or be granted visitation with their son until a plan to limit trauma is made.


Attorneys said the parents and Miguel need to undergo therapy before they can be reunited.

"The child does not know reality as we know it," child psychologist Charles Cleveland said. "That information needs to be reintegrated to him in a gentle, thoughtful way."

Champion-Morin said she left her son with Tanner, a friend whom she considered the child's godmother. When she went to pick up Miguel the next day, both Tanner and the child were gone.

According to Children's Protective Services workers, Miguel was given a new name and a new birth date, and when shown a picture of Tanner, he identified her as his mother. Officials said he thinks he is 6 years old.

The next court hearing will be held in mid-May.

Miguel is staying with a foster family. His birth parents asked that he be placed in the care of a relative, but a judge denied that request.

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I know it sounds crazy on the surface, but there is experience in this area. Children who have been kidnapped and returned to their parents years later do suffer from emotional trauma. We have found that the idea that you just plunk them back in their real home and all is well just doesn't work. Miguel has to get used to the idea that everything he believed was true is actually a lie: That's a lot for a little boy to take in. I wish him and his real parents well.

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#1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:43 PM EDT

Well it makes sense, best of luck for this kid!

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#1.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:53 PM EDT

The trauma is somehow different than him being with foster parents? Huh? Is that implying that "foster parents" are better parents than his real parents? No... it doesn't make sense at all.

They should see counseling AS A FAMILY

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#1.2 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:00 PM EDT

I think he needs to be reunited with his birth family immediately. The can all seek counseling together, besides prolonging their reunion can also traumatize this poor child.

Although it is a different situation it reminds me of Elian Gonzalez and when the US kept him here for almost a year well knowing his father was alive and well in Cuba. Children are a lot more resilient then we give them credit for. Who knows with the proper counseling a lot of love and some really good toys he will grow to be a normal young man.

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#1.3 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:41 PM EDT

Justice099- I don't think they are implying the foster parents are "better." They are saying that if they suddenly give this boy to his understandably emotional parents and dump all of this reality on him, it will be too much, too fast. He needs trained people to gradually explain to him what happened to him when he was young. He does not know his parents. I'm sure they will be reunited soon. This poor boy. Hope all goes well and he can adjust.

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#1.4 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

Yes, There are so many recoverys, NOT, you must either be a Social Worker or some other Government worker. The child would be better just sent home. PERIOD.

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#1.5 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:11 PM EDT

Well then, foster care is so much better, wow, now the poor boy as to adjust twice, how stupid is that.

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#1.6 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:35 PM EDT

You are missing the point- the foster family is not hysterical and telling him that they are his family. They are just providing care while the counselors work with him to ease him into the the reality that his "mom" is not his mom, and that he has this whole other family that he will now be living with.

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#1.7 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:42 PM EDT

He needs trained people to gradually explain to him what happened to him when he was young.

sgshell - I don't know how to break this to you but "foster parents" are seldom trained, and often do not have the child's interests at heart. He needs to be returned to his parents.

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#1.8 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

Ol_Doc- I understand what you are saying, and I agree that he needs to be reunited ASAP when he is ready. I doubt that he was placed with "ordinary" foster parents. I'm sure there are some families who are trained to help in special traumatic circumstances. I imagine they will try to get them back together very quickly. I'm just saying that I understand how this will be for the little boy. I feel for the parents, but they need to be counseled too so that they can not overwhelm him, and not expect him to remember them and love them right off the bat. He is the one that matters; if this were a child who remembered his family, I would agree 100%, but he does not know his family, and I'm sure misses his "mom" and this all has to be explained gently to him. And,for the record, I doubt that the foster family are the ones counseling him- they are just providing a home while this is being resolved.

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#1.9 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

Ol_Doc, you have GOT to be kidding me. If that's how the US works no wonder people are so screwed up. Here in Canada, you undergo a LOT of training just to be a "regular" foster parent. And to care for special needs kids? The training never stops. I'm speaking from personal experience...are you?

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#1.10 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:14 PM EDT

So the kid can't be with his real parents ( that DO want him)

the kid can't be with the woman he knows as his mother ( because she will be in jail).

Why is Foster Care better than the rightful birth parents who never gave him up?

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#1.11 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:19 PM EDT

Let the experts do their jobs. That is why they are experts!! In due time, hopefully this kid can get back to an almost normal life. 8 years is a very long time, and thus, great care must be taken with this case.

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#1.12 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:51 PM EDT

In America, the training for foster care is a joke. Hasn't anybody read the headlines?

And do you think that either in school or at home that "special needs" teachers are well trained?

On the other hand, family counselors have a LOT of training. The entire family should be counseled together, immediately, and let him go home. His real parents can have the training.

BUT, nobody has really mentioned the MONEY. Texas stands to gain a certain amount of Federal MONEY if it keeps this kid in foster care. The parents should SUE IMMEDIATELY. The state is kidnapping this child. They have no right to keep him.

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#1.13 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:26 PM EDT

What is the difference between sending a child to strangers who are not related and their family? Reunite the child and his parents and order them to counseling, have a social worker keep tabs and then let them get on with their lives. What that judge is doing is cruel to both the child and his natural parents. ALL that judge is doing is creating more trauma for that child!!

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#1.14 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:40 PM EDT

The unbelieveable, egotistic, power hungry, I am a God audacity of people who are paid with our tax dollars to make ignorant and biased decisions from behind the bench never fails to make my blood boil.

Suffice it to say, "If you give the devil an inch he'll take a mile."

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#1.15 - Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:03 AM EDT

Ah, Texas judges. Brilliant, aren't they? Why would a judge purposely dump a kid with BIRTH PARENTS into a foster care system where he is very likely to become further traumatized? Don't give me that "foster parents are a godsend" bs. I worked for social services - most - yes, MOST of the foster parents do the job strictly for the "extra" income it produces. Poor kid. Victimized by some nut job and now being victimized by another nutjob - the only difference is that this one is a judge. I have never seen a kid emerge from foster care being better off for the experience.

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#1.16 - Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:36 AM EDT
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He should be returned to his true family - this is wrong and I sure don't agree with with MDrn - I don't care how much experience there is in this area - they can go for counseling TOGETHER after the reunion. Those parents deserve their natural born child back. CPS can still monitor the situation, but the right and moral thing to do is reunite that child with his mother and father (unless there is a known reason on file with CPS before the abduction occurred that would/should prevent it).

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Reply#2 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:55 PM EDT

This is a horrific experience for everyone involved brought on by a delusional woman's desire for a child. I understand the judge's point of view, I also understand the parent's point of view. But unless the foster family has had training in this type of difficult situation, I'm not sure a totally unrelated third party is what is needed here.

I'm glad I am not making the decisions on this one, it's a case of everyone involved wanting to do what's right but no one involved knows for sure exactly what that is.

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#2.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

Reminds me of the story of the two women that are both claiming to be the mother of a child, so whoever it was ruled that the child be split in half, when one of them gave the child up rather than see it split they were the real mother. A real mother would understand that the child needs time to adjust with this much trauma and putting the selfish needs of a parent over the well being of child is wrong. Its entirely impossible to tell the psychological condition of the child and without that information how can you say the judge was wrong?

People are such judgmental jerks.

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#2.2 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:32 PM EDT

King Solomon's idea to say that he would split the child has nothing to do with this case. There are not two mothers with an equal claim to a child. The government has no claim to this child.

Doesn't anybody remember the case of the Canada quintuplets that were taken away from the family because Canada assumed that the parents couldn't handle it (this was many years ago)? All the children grew up with a great deal of mental illness. Finally, the parents managed to get the children back, and some of them stabilized a bit. The government is a horrible nurse-maid to children. Let them go home!

Children are rational human beings. What is the government saying to the child, that the parent's aren't good enough for him? Would the government say this if they were not Hispanic? What new trauma is the government setting this child up for? A child will wonder if this new family is safe; it's better to allow them to have their child, and give them therapy.

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#2.3 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:32 PM EDT

The issue is that if he goes immediately to his parents they are going to be just as emotionally overwhelmed as he is only to him they are strangers, to them he is their lost son returned. Although they will have his best interest at heart the amount of emotion being pushed at him that is contradictory to his own emotion could be overwhelming and cause more harm than good. Taking the time, letting him live in a temporary home while he gets to know his family and learns the truth of his childhood is what is better for him, not because his parents are not the best thing for him, but because they also need to learn how to read his emotional cues so that they do not push him or confuse him. The goal is to reintegrate him into his family in such a way as to allow them to grow close and find the rhythm that makes family life work for them, not to just throw him in with them and some "great toys" and hope for the best.

    #2.4 - Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:05 PM EDT

    Agree. This is ABSOLUTELY wrong. I was taken as an infant by my bitter mother in the 60s and never allowed access to my father. I was told that her new husband was my father until I was 6. She sat me in a chair and told me that the man I always thought was my father was not my father. I was not allowed access to my biological father until I looked him up myself when I was a young adult.

    The shock and trauma from this sham was the worst thing that ever happened to me in my entire life. I am still paying for it and the consequences to this day.

    This child is so compromised psychologically that he will simply cling and attach to the foster family only to be snatched away again.

    So you idiots just added another unnecessary layer of hell and trauma to this child. Congratulations.

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    #2.5 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 9:47 AM EDT
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    "reintegrated" is a scary word all on its own

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    Reply#3 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:02 PM EDT

    What this woman did to not only the child but the family as a whole, is irreprehensible. The child will have to undergo years of therapy. Why would someone kidnap a child and then abuse them is beyond me. She apparently needs therapy herself! God forgive her, and may justice be done to her if she is remotely sane.

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    Reply#4 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

    Where did you read that she abused him?

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    #4.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:12 PM EDT

    Laura, thats how they found him him was because the woman who kidnapped him and acted as his "mother" got CPS called on her for neglect/abuse. So not only did she take him away from his mother, she also did not take good care of him.

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    #4.2 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

    I re-read this story and also re-read the link. From what I read, Ms. Tanner's sister turned her in as a kidnapper. I saw no mention of neglect or abuse.

    Please take me by the hand so I can see the error of my ways.

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    #4.3 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

    Laura, it was in a previous article about this story. You may be able to click the Houston link to find the info.

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    #4.4 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:29 PM EDT

    Mdrn: Anyone who kidnaps a child and keeps it from the parents ought to get the death penalty. And the parents should get their child back immediately, the judge is not God!

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    #4.5 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:37 PM EDT

    There used to be the death penalty for kidnapping children in New Jersey. They called it the Limburgh law.

      #4.6 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:36 PM EDT

      Ohio had the DP for kidnapping, and rape.

        #4.7 - Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:34 AM EDT
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        This judge is very smart and compassionate.

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        Reply#5 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:06 PM EDT

        Toocoolforschool

        You think if that judge’s child was taken he/she would wait to see, and embrace his own son or daughter? I highly doubt it.

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        #5.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:48 PM EDT

        Protecting this child from any further trauma is what is important. As anxious as these parents are to be reunited with their son, a few more days will not hurt them, and it could make all the difference to this little boy, letting him ease into the new information and absorb it, rather than having all of these understandably emotional "strangers" hugging him and overwhelming him. What a tough situation for the poor little guy.

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        #5.2 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:01 PM EDT

        The JUDGE is an Idiot, Lawyer and Insane. LIKE all of them.

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        #5.3 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

        I was kidnapped at 3 yrs of age, found when I was 7..By complete strangers, I too was not allowed

        to be returned to bio family asap. Foster care and time..This boy has no clue who is who in his real family..Be patient I agree with Judge..I needs to be handled properly. for his success. It made my transition much smoother.

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        #5.4 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

        sgshell - My grandson was placed in foster care, even though the State knew we were his grandparents. It took over a month to gain custody during which time he lost over 12 pounds...at 4 years old. During our first meal together after his return he asked "you're not going to take my food are you?" My wife cried the entire night. When a loving family is an alternative...foster care IS NOT the answer!

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        #5.5 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

        Ol_Doc- I am so, so sorry to hear that. That was wrong, and I hope your grandson is healing. I am not advocating foster families over grandparents at all - that was wrong. The situation with this little boy is not your average case- I'm just saying that I understand why he needs counselors/therapists to lovingly give him this information. Hopefully it will be soon. Again, so sorry to hear what happened in your situation. I'm so glad he has loving grandparents to help him. God bless.

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        #5.6 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:08 PM EDT

        Ol_Doc, I'm so sorry to hear that. Foster care has a deserved bad reputation in every state in America.

        What, we have "special" foster families with "special" training for kidnapped and abused kids? Is that where we hide Santa and the Tooth Fairy? You just can't be sure that the foster family will be as good as the parents. It doesn't take more than a couple of days to train parents what they should say to the child, and then the whole family should be given years of therapy and support. I agree this is a very difficult case, and also that Texas is partly to blame, because the kidnapper was abusing the child.

        Texas is making Federal money keeping him in foster care. Shame on the judge.

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        #5.7 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:41 PM EDT
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        My question is, how is a judge even able to decide this? How did he get involved? His job is to oversee the trial of Tanner - not the family, not the kid.

        Parental rights in this country are really messed up nowadays. Believe it or not folks, the state owns your children, not you.

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        Reply#6 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:12 PM EDT

        Righ you are !!! Justice.

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        #6.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

        I have to agree. I am progressive on many issues, but when it comes to children, I say beware. Take care of your children, and don't let the state near them.

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        #6.2 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:43 PM EDT
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        Clearly this boy will not be living with Ms. Tanner. Therefore, he will have the trauma of adjusting to a new home. Why should this not be the home of his natural parents?

        To put him in a foster home prior to returning him to his parents just adds more trauma.

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        Reply#7 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:14 PM EDT

        Exactly what I was thinking. Even if the birth parents don't tell him the truth right away they should be allowed to spend time with him. I mean this mother lost her baby she must be dying inside not to be able to hold onto him now.

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        #7.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

        That's my thought. I understand that you can't just toss the kid back in his home and expect him to adjust immediately, but a stopoff at a foster home before returning to his real parents may just be extra chaos to him. They certainly shouldn't be waiting until mid May to make a decision. Couldn't they at least start reintroducing the family, gradually working up in time spent together?

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        #7.2 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

        Being placed with a foster family over his natural family is ludicrous as a stranger is a stranger. There must be more to this story as I can't believe this judge can be this callous.

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        #7.3 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

        Because the parents will expect that the bond between them and the child would be immediate. But the child will fail the parental expectations which would cause a secondary trauma to the child. The foster family will not and do not have those same expectations of love that the bio-parents do whether they admit it or not. Mom just wants to scoop her baby boy up and smother him with love (as would I) after so long and that would only confuse the boy further. It is a period of adjustment that the CHILD needs whether the parents, the media or the general population likes it or not.

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        #7.4 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:57 PM EDT

        Having been a child victim my self, I am 42 and still dream at night at times about THAT LADY I thought was my mom,,she went to prison. My poor real mom, I would run from her. I was taken off my trike in driveway, vanished..

        I did not think this woman I was suppose to go was my mom,,no way no how! I did understand foster care, I wanted to stay there forever and never go with those people they all call my family..

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        #7.5 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

        Chevvy- So sorry about your ordeal- hope you are healing and doing well now.

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        #7.6 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:17 PM EDT

        The whole family will need years of therapy. Postponing meeting the real family for a few months will make no difference, and could damage the relationship further. Even if they don't live together as a family at first, they should still be seeing each other, and getting used to the idea. The brain remembers traumas for years, not months, weeks, or days. This kind of trauma is the worst. I feel sorry for anybody who has experienced it. Maybe Texas doesn't want to pay for the therapy that will be required, and so the judge figures he will just wait till May when (he thinks) the news will no longer be following the story.

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        #7.7 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:48 PM EDT
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        I honestly do not believe there is a descent Family Court Judge in the State of Texas. They never, never do what is the best interest of any child. They are only looking for publicity in all of their decisions. Next time all of these so called Judges are up for re-election I hope people really really look into these people before they make a decision. The AG and Law Enforcement really need to look into the corruption of these family Judges. Harris and Dallas County especially need an entire over haul. Texas as a whole needs to focus more on protecting our children. How sad that they wait for children to be abused and almost killed before anyone listens.

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        Reply#8 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:34 PM EDT

        Rock

        Your right something doesn't make sense here.

        The hole thing is just suspect.

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        #8.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:14 PM EDT
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        Honestly there is no way this boys parents could be un-biased about Ms. Tanner so if he went to live with them right away not only would he be with people who to him are total strangers but also people who HATE the only mother he ever knew. Think about how tramatic that would be if you were him. As a parent I know I would have a hard time being un-biased in that situation and Children sense things when there is something wrong no matter how big you smile.

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        Reply#9 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

        Do you know the biologocal parents?

        There are people that I have no use for but my children were never exposed to those opinions.

        I taught them to watch out for some people and beware of dangers but I did not teach them to hate.

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        #9.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:56 PM EDT

        What I can't stand is that the judge's decision makes it look as though the parents are not capable of following directions, or not capable of handling the situation. Of course the child will need years of therapy, and so will the whole family. But for a person to automatically assume that the real parents will do the wrong thing... you assume so much, and it is because of this judge.

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        #9.2 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:52 PM EDT
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        I definitely understand why the judge ruled as he did - this little kid has a mountain of serious life changes to take in and digest. But to not allow ANY contact with his birth parents while he is adjusting is very callous and I imagine very frustrating for his parents.

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        Reply#10 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:41 PM EDT

        You can understand the JUDGE? Hell NO ONE can understand a Judge (Insane Lawyer) You MUST BE A LIBERAL.

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        #10.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

        I'm a liberal and I don't understand this judge, who was probably appointed by Texas Republicans. But it has nothing to do with politics, just a bad decision. The judge has probably never heard of family therapy.

          #10.2 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:53 PM EDT
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          NONSENSE!!!!!!!!!

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          Reply#11 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

          How ANY judge could be allowed to keep a child from the natural, lawful parents is beyond me! Yes, the boy will need counseling, yes his parents will need counseling. However, they should do this together!! To have a child gone all of this time and then have to prove he's yours only to have a judge tell you that you can't see him or have him back is nonsense! The trauma of going through a foster home will be just as great. You can't just keep shuffling this kid around. He was lied to. It would work if he were returned to the parents and was told the truth by a counselor meeting with the entire family. So what if the kid thinks another lady is his mom? She's a criminal! There's a good amount of abuse, neglect, etc. in foster homes, too. The safest place for this child is back with his natural parents. This judge needs to be removed from his seat. I hope the family takes it to a higher court.... this just makes no sense.

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          Reply#12 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

          Obviously it's about money. The longer they keep him a ward of the state, the more money it brings them. Plain and simple.

          Honestly, how he became a ward of the state in the first place is beyond me. Makes no sense whatsoever. The child was kidnapped by Tanner, not kidnapped by CPS (well, until now.)

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          #12.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:42 PM EDT

          I agree with Justice: this is a case where the state is making money off of this child, and that is the WHOLE ENTIRE REASON why they are keeping him away from his parents. The state that ignored the neglect of the kidnapper should be paying for all the therapy that the whole family will need.

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          #12.2 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:56 PM EDT
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          So he's a victim, and will continue to be! Let him be with his REAL parents - that is the first in the healing - but how can a STATE heal a little boy? How can the JUDGE determine that he should be kept separate??? That's nuts! He needs TO live somewhere - WHY NOT WITH THE REAL PARENTS WHO LOVE HIM???? To everyone else, he will be a patient. THIS JUDGE is wrong! Love is the only ENERGY which heals anything - not someones 'MENTAL IDEAL! Boy - get a crime done against you AND YOU WILL BE PUNISHED FOREVER!

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          Reply#13 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

          I know all of the Pyscho MoJo, but I believe, completely, that no one can love a child or help a child through tough times better than the Mother. A mothers love (under most circumstances) is never ending and always growing. I'm sure the courts are doing what they believe is in the best interest of the child, but I believe we all know of cases where the Courts have failed miserably in that area. If the Natural Parents are OK with this, I am, but if they want to be with their child, I don't believe the courts should interfere.

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          Reply#14 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

          So now a judge and some foster parents are a better place for this kid than with the parents that love him and have missed him for all these years? It's none of the judge's business! That child belongs in the custody of his parents up and until they are proved unfit. That is what is right and true. Anything else is just judicial fiat and falderal.

          .

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          Reply#15 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

          That's crazy talk! The judge has no right to keep the kid from his parents. And I agree with the other commenter that said how is this different from placing him with foster parent's? That's not traumatic?

          I could understand a plan to let the kid know slowly what the real situation is, this could have been talked over with the parent's and decided on. But to me, this judge is just doing what the kidnapper did, keeping the child from his parents.

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          Reply#16 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:10 PM EDT

          As others here have said, it is wrong for the judge to assume that he is better off with a foster family than with his natural family. His family has never been accused of abusing or neglecting him. As others have said here, the family can do therapy together. Leaving the boy in a foster home can be causing its own trauma. (It is well documented by research institutions such as Cornell University and Johns Hopkins University that children are many times more likely to be abused and neglected in foster care than in the general population. ) As to the comment above that the boy's parents are likely biased against the kidnapper... yes, that's true. However, the foster parents can also be biased against the kidnapper. To assume that the biological parents will say things (and to assume the foster parents would not say things) that may hurt the boy is a very interesting assumption. The boy belongs with his natural family... not in a foster home.

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          Reply#17 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

          Yes, the foster family is just as likely to say things about the kidnapper. And the foster family will make the child feel even more homeless.

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          #17.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:00 PM EDT
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          Comment author avatarWard Kendallvia FacebookExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          You're right. That boy thinks he's white, and to suddenly learn he's actually a Mexican from Burritoville would blow his mind from here to Guadalajara.

          Hold Back This Day - amazon.com

            Reply#18 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

            He has already lost the person he thought was mom. How in the hell is placing him with a foster family better than placing him with his real family? Hoping the next story I read relating to this is not about him being abused by his foster family.

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            Reply#19 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

            I agree with everybody that says he should be with his real parents.

            The troll above your post did make an interesting point though: perhaps the judge is prejudiced against the Hispanic family. Yes, this family should try to appeal the ruling. I would hope that this case could be taken up by a group that works on civil rights.

              #19.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:03 PM EDT
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              The parents ought to go back to court(a different one) and I guess prove to someone else that they are fit parents and get custody of their child, which they already should have had, that is just plain stupid. And I want to know where did the judge get off trying to keep the child from his parents, who is he to say, the parents have never been ruled unfit parents, I just dont get it. He's not God, although he thinks he is!

              • 5 votes
              Reply#20 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

              I can kind of see the judges decision. If you think about it, in a case like this, his parents are going to want to tell him first thing "I am your mommy" or "I am your daddy" and call him by his name that they gave him. To him, that is going to be completely wrong, and would be very traumatic. He does need couseling because of the stupid woman than took him and turned the entire family's life around. HOWEVER, to not let his parents see him at all is wrong. They should be able to have visits with him, but then they will have to figure out how to tell him "who" the people are that are visiting with him. A very complicated mess and a very innocent little boy stuck right in the middle. I hope that the family is reunited soon and that they are all able to cope with all of the stress and changes.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#21 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

              Umm... that is going to have to happen eventually, anyway. It will be just as traumatic then as it would be now.

              • 5 votes
              #21.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:46 PM EDT

              In the case of children who are adopted from a foreign country, if the child meets with the birth mother, they are usually glad to meet her, as long as things are kept friendly. This family should appeal this decision; the judge is probably prejudiced, because he is giving the family less rights to the child than the birth parents would have if the child were legally adopted.

              • 1 vote
              #21.2 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:06 PM EDT
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              Most judges are idiots when it boils down to common sense. So let me get this straight. In order ease the pain we'll throw him in with a second family before we introduce him to a third family. That should clear things up. (Sarcasm)

              • 7 votes
              Reply#22 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

              Laura313822: You are right, the article did not say that she physically abused the boy, but what do you call kidnapping? I would think that is the greatest abuse!!!!!

              • 4 votes
              Reply#23 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

              This article didn't say that he was abused, but a Texas paper did. Texas found the case not through a relative (who might have admitted the boy was kidnapped), but it first came to the state's attention because of neglect and abuse.

                #23.1 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:08 PM EDT
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                This story is heart breaking. The child should be returned to his parents. All the evidence of a kidnapping has been or can be obtained. Why should his parents be expected to remain "unbiased". If someone commits a crime against a child the parents and the child need to be counciled. Are all children that have been abused or hurt by a non-family member removed from or kept from their loving parents so they can be placed in an unbiased home with strangers? This child is a stranger to his parents because of the crime and needs to be returned to his loving parents that have been looking for him for 8 years.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#24 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

                GOVERNMENT GONE INSANE, So let me get this right, Child placed in custody of FOSTER Parents! I guess they are much less tramatic then your OWN parents? WTF are these IDIOTS in our GOVERNMENT thinking. MORE money, I guess they are shaking them down for Visitation charges, Doctors and SOCIAL JURKERS? We need a DAMN REVOLUTION and SOON.

                • 5 votes
                Reply#25 - Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:02 PM EDT
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