domestic battery and 2 counts of child abuse??? are these charges based on killing the bunnies or as usual did the media "omit" the facts in order to further the story???

I kinda think this might make him popular in prison...."what are you in for??"

Yeah sounds like he is going to jail for domestic battery and child abuse... not for "killing bunnies". But "Man gets two years for domestic battery" isn't a headline that will attract viewers.

Hey Jim. What are the odds that your moniker would have ever made front page news.

I've been a celebrity ever since my creation in 1938,,, It's nothing new

anyone that can harm an animal in this disgusting way has issues and needs help. Next time it could be his wife or kids. Animal abuse needs harsh punishment so it is taken seriously!!!!!!!

I wonder, when he came out of the bathroom if he said "Gee, ain't I a stinker?"

a little more info: The bunnies were babies, and they're saying the incident was so traumatic for the children, both under the age of 12, that the child abuse charges were warranted. He had 2 prior arrests for domestic battery in '02 and '04 that were later dropped. There was a plea bargain so the children wouldn't have to testify.

Yeah Reverend, everybody KNOWS that our food comes from the supermarket silly.

lilrkt

That is a little judgmental I think. What he says is true in rural areas and must be done. You don't have more animals than you can feed. You shoot stray dogs because they will pack up and kill your livestock.

Where do you think your food comes from ......the grocery store?

I hope his wife took the children and ran for their lives. Someone who could do what he did shows mental problems and it could just be a matter of time before he takes his anger out on one of the children. He's a sick bastard and should be locked up.

After his two years in prison..lock his azz up in a loony-toon farm for life.

And if I was his wife..divorce that wacko ASAP or you might be next and take those kids awy from him with no visitation rights..look what happen to that Powell lady and kids who visited their so call innocent father.

lilrkt -- can you be any more ignorant? The main question is did the animals suffer? If not, the killing is a non-issue, and any law which suggests otherwise is debatable.

A SEPARATE issue is inducing trauma in the children...but killing an animal does not have to do that.

Go fishing, kill a fish. The kids have a blast. No trauma. So this story is rather sad.

People who abuse animals have no respect for life; it's no suprise that he also abuses people including his own family including his children. Teenage and adult murderers often start out by abusing animals.

Nice to see our tax dollars are being well spent, now what are they going to do with all the workers in slaughter houses, do we lock up every one that eats meat? maybethe black panthers can put up a $10,000 reward for Elmer Fudd since he is a white cartoon carrector and one of those bunnies might have been of color, a fine would work nicely in this case. put him in prison and his family on welfare! where is the logic? why would you have to get up in the middle of the night to feed bunnies? someone needs mental health care. Florida needs professional help... did anyone try shoving a EverReady battery up their @$$ to see if they would start ticking again. didn't think so, no attempt to revive that's another case.

I don't agree with cruelty, and I don't agree with stupidity. those things are rampant in Florida these days there starting to make California look good, that's scary.

lilrkt, what flowery planet are you living on? There are even videos on youtube showing people how to kill and skin rabbits and yes it actually shows them twisting their necks, not unlike, this guy did. People do still eat freshly killed animals, rabbits included and when I grew up on the farm we learned how to do that to a chicken by the time we were ten. None of us grew up to abuse or murder our families. The only reasons this guy was charged is because he did it for spite, and his idiotic wife called the police. I call her idiotic because who argues over who is going to get up to feed some animals and she had to have known this stupid man, might try something spiteful. Spiteful people don't hide it at all.

If you can kill defenseless bunnies by twisting them to death (which has got to be painful) I can't imagine what you could do to your children. Not only did you kill their pets, instead of just giving them away to a family that would take care of them, you did it with your kids there to see the after effects. This man is a supreme jackass and I REALLY hope his wife and kids leave.

Twisting bunnies will certain cause them to suffer. Also, if I were a young child at the mercy of a man who has proven with his past actions that he is capable of violence, killing the bunnies would make me wonder if I am next. So..yeah..the animals suffered and so did the children.

Dear Rev J Wright,

In my book, shooting wild rabbits, groundhogs, oppossums, skunks, etc is different than drowning kittens/puppies. Hopefully by now you have learned to get your cats & dogs neutered/spayed so you don't have to kill kittens & puppies. Or else take them to the county animal shelter where they will get a chance to be adopted.

I have a hard time killing baby animals, whether wild or not. Actually, I don't kill baby animals at all. Sometimes my dogs eat them and I don't like it. Let the bunnies grow up so they have some meat on them. Let the little deer grow up so they have meat on them. Once they are grown and adults, then you can shoot them (during hunting season) or let nature take its course.

It is unfortunate that bunnies can't "Stand their ground.!" But, they sure can get a lot of press.

Rabbit farmers in Florida - you better watch out. These city types think that rabbits, chickens, and cows just pop their own heads off and skin themselves. Or that they magically appear in the butcher shop.

And I'll bet that a good number of the posters don't even know that people in the USA eat rabbits.

As one who grew up on a farm and had to skin rabbits, and chop & pluck many a chicken in my time, I have a lot of stories that i would never tell in Florida now - I would hate to get arrested for preparing dinner. I guess that the prosecutor thinks that ground beef is grown on a tree.

"Reverend Wright":

You certainly have a very narrow and callused view; this is a violent man but then maybe you are too so you don't see a problem. As for the Wall Street bankers, they are above the law since they make political contributions with other peoples money to have the law written in their favor.

The article indicates that the animals did not die quickly or well. Do you really not see the difference between squeezing a childs pet to death and slaughtering animals for consumption? And what in the world would the Black Panthers have to do with this? Some people will take advantage of any platform to spread Fox News fear mongering and propaganda.

Oh, and Rev? These days we've got miracles like spay/neuter that help control pet overpopulation. We've been able to perform this simple surgery for about 50 years now, so if you're still drowning puppies and kittens, then you must be a cheap, sadistic bastid.

You know, there is a difference between buying an animal for later consumption, and buying an animal as a pet for your kids. To then in a fit of rage murder those pets, IS child abuse, and has NOTHING to do with slaughtering farm animals. There can be no justification for his actions. It was done in a temper, with the the intent to show his wife how he was going to end the argument about feeding them. So babble on all you want about it just being rabbits, I kill rabbits every day, blah blah blah. Because of the reason he did it, it doesn't matter if it was a pet hummingbird, mouse, or black widow spider. He wasn't teaching his kids a lesson in survival in nature, he was teaching them to fear him because he holds the power of life and death in that family.

Wow! When I lived in Florida and was a scoutmaster of a boy scout troop we ate rabbits provided by a guy who raised rabbits for food. Think of all the people that should have gone to jail for two years because of dead rabbits.

In survival training in the military we were given a live rabbit and told that it was dinner. Over the course of years, think of all of the military (literally thousands) that should have gone to jail for learning survival skills.

His children are going to remember this for the rest of their lives, that their father took their beloved pets into the bathroom and twisted them until they spurted blood all over him.

And when he is old, feeble and alone and wonders why his children will have nothing to do with him, they will remind him of this incident (and probably many other bad incidences we are not privy to) and exactly why he is old and alone.

Bad parents like this always need to be reminded.

Maybe he'll get twisted to death in jail. Or butt pounded to death.

I'm no animal hugger by any means and don't like PETA; but I do believe if you own an animal you have to treat it with right. That means the right kind of housing, food, water and attention.

If you are going to harvest the animal to eat do it humanely, effectively and fast. This type of behavior disgusts me.

Well said, REVEREND. Wow, I wonder what sentence I would get if the pictures ever surface of my daughter splattered in blood from butchering chickens (by chopping their heads off with a hatchet). Or of her gutting her first deer at 12 years old. Of of her killing and skinning the rabbits that we raise for food. Or of us running our trapline for muskrats, raccoons, coyotes, etc. How interesting that she just happens to be a well-adjusted, responsible, hard working, outgoing, kind and ethical 19 year old today who has never been in trouble. She also loves animals, but she realizes that animals are not people and they have no "right to life".

I'll agree that people who torture animals are seriously screwed up--in fact it is a sign of severe psychosis and many serial killers tortured animals as children. However, this man did not torture these rabbits--he killed them. Perhaps they felt some brief pain, but that was not his objective and is therefore not "torture" by definition. Pain often accompanies death, even death by natural causes.

If you really want to see animal torture, google "saveelk" and click on "how they kill" which depicts what wolves do and have done to our livestock and wildlife here in Montana. It will absolutely make you sick.

If the kids of the idiots leaving posts on here were raised around life and death and had a realistic view of both, they wouldn't be so traumatized by seeing a couple of dead rabbits. Death is a fact of life, and living on a ranch you get exposed to it early and often.

I'm not taking the guy's side, but almost all of you, including the jurors, have eaten chicken and fish. Do you think they died peacefully of natural causes?
Beef cattle fare a little better - since we can't twist their heads off we shoot them in the scull.
Grow up people. This guy is a creep, but the "crime" he's convicted of is done every day by thousands of fisherman and farmers. Unless you're a vegetarian you have no room to criticize.

828.12. Cruelty to animals

(1) A person who unnecessarily overloads, overdrives, torments, deprives of necessary sustenance or shelter, or unnecessarily mutilates, or kills any animal, or causes the same to be done, or carries in or upon any vehicle, or otherwise, any animal in a cruel or inhumane manner, is guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or by a fine of not more than $5,000, or both.

(2) A person who intentionally commits an act to any animal which results in the cruel death, or excessive or repeated infliction of unnecessary pain or suffering, or causes the same to be done, is guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or by a fine of not more than $10,000, or both.

So, according to Florida statutes, since the man intentionally killed the bunnies in a cruel way that also caused unnecessary pain and suffering, he was chardeg with animal cruelty - in this case, two felonies, one for each bunny. He could have gotten 5 years for this as a third degree felony is up to five years. Also, there is a well known connection between animal abuse, domestic violence, and child abuse. Killing of a pet is a common tactic in both domestic violence and child abuse.

Prison time is stupid and a waste of taxpayers money.

Re: Cruelty to Animals
How do you kill a rabbit, chicken of fish in a Not-cruel way?

Who Ate My Soup:

hey catlover- you ever watch a cat chew on and play with a live animal? Cats are some of the most sadistic creatures on Earth. Maybe we should round them up for proper disposal.

You're a sick idiot. PS Your Camaro is a POS. Buy a REAL performance vehicle: BMW. Loser.

tiny_rebel - please search "Animal Slaughter House" or "Beef packing plant" on YOUTUBE and watch your dinner/harvest being humanely dismembered.

northernlights4me, escientist & pedestrian-in-sf

Sorry, let me clarify my first statement, THIS COUNTRY IS SCREWED UP with nut jobs like the ones listed above. They focus on the stupid crap and totally ignore the part about corruption, war and murder.

You're are a waste of time.

Years in jail? I thought they were talking of Playboy Bunnies.

cheetah -

Perfect

If the kids of the idiots leaving posts on here were raised around life and death and had a realistic view of both, they wouldn't be so traumatized by seeing a couple of dead rabbits. Death is a fact of life, and living on a ranch you get exposed to it early and often.

It's the idiots who equate killing livestock for food as being the same as murdering something bought as a pet in a fit of anger that cracks me up. You wanna take you kids out hunting, shoot something either as a pest or as food, there is nothing wrong with that. I applaud you. But that's nothing like what this guy did. He isn't chopping heads off chickens like ur daughter, or gutting a dear. He took 3 pets, and they were pets, not food stock, and murdered them in front of his wife and little kids in a fit of anger. Tell me, If you walked up to your daughter and slaughtered her dog in front of her, for no other reason than you were was pissed, think she'd still be the same well adjusted 19 year old she is today?

Doubt it.

I am an animal lover so killing any animal is horrible to me. (And I am a vegetarian and have been since I was 12 years old so don't ask if I know where my food comes from. I was raised on a working pig and chicken farm. My food comes from a garden) But even I can see the difference between butchering food stock and killing your kid's pet because you have serious anger and self control issues. This man got what he deserved.

I agree, he should be prosecuted.

But lets not be hypocrites here.

At the same time, we should as a nation prosecute the management and stockholders of EVERY stock yard/feed lot in the country. Their crime being the torture of animals before their murder.

That's right dear reader. Put down that big mac.

These disgusting stock yards exercise extreme cruelty by forcing the live stock to stand around, ankle deep in their own s!%#, and filth until they are brutally murdered. They have laws against you photographing this disgusting business and you can go to jail for making such photos public. These crimes committed daily, 365 days a year, make the plight of these poor little bunnies pail in comparison.

So lets not be Hippocratic.

Lets address the real crimes against animals while we cry so hard for these poor little bunnies.

Do any of you "oh, the poor bunnies, and the kids were so traumatized even though they didn't see it happen" people: Have you EVER killed a mouse (with a trap, or poison, etc, etc)? Have you EVER taken your kids fishing? Have you EVER really thought about where your chicken dinner REALLY came from? Here's a hint on the chicken dinner -- it weren't grown in any warehouse or factory, and it didn't just "magically appear" in the frozen food section of the local grocer's.

I remember helping one of my cousins kill chickens for dinner, and it was anything but "cruel". Hell, I've killed "bunnies", too, and it wasn't "cruel and inhumane", either. But that mouse that my cat caught and then "played with" until the mouse was exhausted...............

Close the Fed

So lets not be Hippocratic.

But I WANT to be a doctor. Oh, wait, you meant hypocritical......

This is absolutely ridiculous. He would have done less time punching his wife in the mouth. I, in no way advocate either, just the stupidity of spending a hundred thousand dollars to put this man in jail for two years for killing a couple of bunnies, pets or not. Not to mention the costs to try the case.

It is also clear to me by the comments that if the country turned to crap, who would be the survivors and who would be the beggars and thieves. And remember, the only reason we have the ability to call ourselves civilized, is because of those that came before us that weren't, and they were the ancestors to us all.

to Rev J Wright.

You are a backwood Mother F#$$ker. I hope and wish that A Bear, Coyote or a snake bite the S#@t out of you and that you succumb. Your last image before you draw your last breath will be all the animals you killed with malice, look down on you.

To the Thinker-318752..What Army are you talking about? I just Retired from 24 years of service, and our survival training taught us to eat grubs or any thing that we can catch. Good luck catching a rabbit in the wild as if you we're really in the Army, you should know that you do not use a fire arm. I don't need to explain. You just a want to be, and watch to many movies. Scum bag.

To Whistler101. Animals are not people, and have no right to live?. You must belong to the family "chain saw massacre". I bet you eat people too. Your daughter know's only what you raise her to be, eventually, if she ever leave the trailer she was raised in the backwood, she will be termed a wild animal herself. Better yet, you, your family and the likes of you stay as far away from civilization

Who ate my soup

hey catlover- you ever watch a cat chew on and play with a live animal? Cats are some of the most sadistic creatures on Earth. Maybe we should round them up for proper disposal.

Umm I would disagree with that statement. While cats may do that to their food, we too not only torture other animals but we torture each other. Maybe you should study the Salem Which trials, Spanish Inquisition, Chinese torture a little bit if you think cats are the some of the most sadistic creatures on earth...

I wouldn't even begin to compare what animals do to what we do, we are suppose to be better than animals.

Looks like bunnies have more rights than some humans it seems.

if he really did this he should get lot more years. these kind of violent ppl will do it to kids one day. seems he has no respect. how sick do you have to be to do that to bunnies for no reason.

Rev J Wright:

Maybe someone should drown or twist your head off some day. What goes around comes around. The less mentally deficient people like you in the world, the better. With the way you gloat and boast about killing thousands of rabbits for sport, shooting dogs and cats on your property, and drowning baby animals you need to be evaluated and placed in a mental institution or prison. I can not fathom how a sentient being such as yourself can be so cruel to other sentient beings. They feel pain and fear and have minds just as much as you or I do. Yet, you feel it is okay to torture them to death by drowning them? Or maybe you think it is fun to see rabbits' or prairie dog's heads explode? You probably enjoy killing them. Admittedly there are many problems in the food industry where animals are treated inhumanely, but you can not use that to justify your actions. You need help, buddy. Pathetic and disgusting.

How can he be guilty?

It is in Florida and he should claim that he was attacked by the bunnies had to rip their heads off.

Don't forget in Florida if somebody threathens you with a bag of candy than you can kill him under the "stand your ground" law.

Everyone left out how hogs are slaughtered. A hog is ran through a narrow chute with a series of misters getting the animal wet, it then goes onto a conveyor which moves the animal to a large steel plate to stand on where it gets jolted senseless with electricity. The stunned hog is then shackled by the hind feet and lifted head down, then transported to a station where its throat is cut. In the slaughter process the USDA states a hog must bleed to death to die, its blood carries nasty diseases. After this the hog is slit open from the anus to the sternum to remove the entrails. At this point you can put your hand inside the body cavity and hold the animals heart, which is still beating. This process happens tens of thousands of times a day, every day. Makes bacon sound that much tastier, doesn't it?

Rev Wright, RE: tiny_rebel - please search "Animal Slaughter House" or "Beef packing plant" on YOUTUBE and watch your dinner/harvest being humanely dismembered.

I've been to a slaughter house in Idaho while I was stationed there. They used an air gun/hammer to the head, the animal was dead before it hit the floor then it bleed, skinned, and processed. Once the animal is dead, it's dead.

We have a small local slaughter house not far from where I live now. I haven't witness their dispatching, but know they use a 22 rifle because I asked them. I buy 1/2 a pig every other year from a friend of mine and that is where it gets processed.

I have seen the films which PETA produces; they are not the norm as to treatment of animals. These are extreme cases of abuse to get headlines for their cause.

Just out of curiosity, if we a waste of time what does that make you for responding to us?

People are upset over this guy killing bunny's. Good thing these authorities never witnessed my mother getting ready to cook chicken. Have you ever whirled a lasso...........now make the same motion with a chickens head in your hand..........yep thats how she done it officer now go and arrest my mother f.....r.

Butchering the bunnies for food is one thing, brutally killing their pets as a means of shocking, threatening and punishing his children is abuse of the worst kind. Rather like the dictator who kills family members to make a point. These are children, those were their pets and he brutally killed them to punish his family.

Those of you who aren't capable of understanding the difference seem to have been horribly desensitised yourselves. You don't 'wring' or 'twist' a rabbit to death. You don't 'twist' a chicken to death either. You twist their heads and snap their necks and if you end up covered in blood, well, you are one bad butcher, or, one very sick f*ck.

We don't really know how he killed these rabbits. It could be that he twisted their necks until they died, like I did many times to chickens and pheasants and quail and dove and so on. But even if he did it that way, which is fast and not probably as painful as some people imagine as the neck breaks almost immediately, the point here is that he did this out of anger, not for food. He has a history of trouble within his family, and while he wasn't convicted on those previous charges something clearly did happen.

The first time I killed an animal I was 7, but it happened in the way most rural kids deal with it. We killed our own food and ate it and it's a tough lesson to learn but a valuable one. I see these posters above talking about animals as if they are equal to humans and I just don't get you. But, on the other hand, all the animals I've eaten probably did commit suicide upon just hearing the news I was hungry. And, for a time, I couldn't even shoot my shotgun for fear that a bird might fly in front of the pattern.

A little more common sense from both sides, please. This guy did this out of anger, not hunger. And he has a history. My bet is that his lawyer got him the best deal possible. But critters aren't my equal, though for some people posting here they clearly are theirs.

Malitch...I don't agree w/them, either, but to wish them to develop cancer?

Do you know anyone who has had cancer?

I did, you waste of space.

Please, if you're going to stick up for something I believe in, keep your mouth shut.

mygirl1

Most on here understand the difference, they simply don't like those that put animal rights at the same level as human, and neither do I.

And yes it is about desensitization. Protecting kids from life and death is not healthy. They need to understand life and death. Maybe not in this way, but necessary.

Here is one of mine at an early age. We used to race sled dogs. We also had a horse, and a cow. The horse bit anyone who tried to ride her, but the cow more than obliged. We used to ride that cow everywhere. His name was Coffee. We let him roam the yard and he ate the grass and kept it mowed. When the yard was cut, he would turn his attention to the left over dog food in their dishes. Everyone knows that high protein dog food is from animals. Coffee didn't seem to mind, in fact, sometimes he and the dogs would fight over the food. One day I came home from school and couldn't find Coffee. I asked my mom about it and she told me that they had him butchered. Fed the family for almost a year.

Best beef I ever had.

I formally apologize for the above post and making light of the subject....but really, the posts on here seem to think the guy needs to be strung up tared and feathered and run out uf town on a rail.

He definitly needs anger management for his bullish behavour but I do not believe jail time is warrented in this situation. If he is locked up three loses occure, he loses his freedom, his family loses a source of income and their father, and his employer loses a worker, not to mention the family will likely need assistance.

If he beats his wife and children then yes lock him up, but if his only crime is causing mental anguish by killing bunnys out of anger as stated in the artical then anger management should be court ordered not jail or prison time. You wouldn't junk a car because the radio doesn't work would you,no you would fix it.

@ Hangon1minute: "If he beats his wife and children then yes lock him up, but if his only crime is causing mental anguish by killing bunnys out of anger as stated in the artical then anger management should be court ordered not jail or prison time."

Cruelty to animals, depending on the severity, warrants jail time. This man killed 3 bunnies without cause and in an inhumane and painful way. He legally and morally deserves every minute of the jail time issued.

@magicman in the sky

You must be a PETA supporter.

PETA shares my interests in protecting animals from cruelty and finding those who commit illegal acts against animals. But, the government and all law enforcement agencies in America share the same view and work to bring charges against criminals who harm animals. Cruelty to animals is illegal. And yes, I donate to PETA and other organizations that work to protect animals.

Jk from PA- Is that short for JacKass? I have no need for a BMW as I am not gay. I bought a car that would make me happy, not just be a man ass magnet. I wish nothing but the best for you and your "partner".

magicman in the sky

For one thing, the only reason those laws are on the books is to perpetuate the idea that animals are more important than humans. You want to save animals? Advocate for human birth control and forced sterilization, drop the human population by about 6 billion, and animals will be just fine. Humans are the cause of the problem, not the solution.

@ John, "the only reason those laws are on the books is to perpetuate the idea that animals are more important that humans."

Wow, how did you think that up? I agree about the human population part of your post. We are the cause of severe problems from the current Mass Extinction of animals, to habitat destruction and global warming. These problems will only get exponentially worse as our population rises. The stress we are putting on Earth's resources with our current population is tremendous. The greater the population, the more we consume these resources, and the harder it will be to sustain ourselves. So, I have a feeling that the old saying will come true: "What goes up, must come down."

@magic john was stating that in your view animals have more rights than humans not about humans destroying the earth. Get a grip dude.

It was not hard to come up with. It is that way with most advocacy groups. There is rarely a middle ground.

Christian Right-All abortions should be illegal-but don't give a crap about how they will live once born.

Liberal Left-Death penalty is wrong-but we don't want them on the streets-and don't care how humane it is to keep them locked up for life.

Starving in Africa- don't care about the starving in the US

Peta-everyone become a vegetarian-problem is we can't grow enough vegis to sustain our population.

I could go on and on, but what would be the point.

Hangon1minute

He is right about what I was stating. Humans are destroying the earth. We are a virus that has spread from pole to pole, and quite honestly it would most likely gasp a sigh of relief if we were not here any more.

However, you are right that I was stating that PETA holds animals rights higher than humans.

Hangon1minute: I was responding to the SECOND half of his post. Did you read this part of his post, "You want to save animals? Advocate for human birth control and forced sterilization, drop the human population by about 6 billion, and animals will be just fine. Humans are the cause of the problem, not the solution."

I suggest you understand what we are talking about before you comment again, bud.

Oh I do understand, and you dear sir jumped my post first.

Hangon1minute you must be a bunny killer supporter.

Those whom are for killing for food are off base on the core of the matter here. Killing a pet, is killing something the children loved. Be it a stuffed animal, if you destroy it, you are causing suffering and yes, truama to the child.

Yes, we do have slaughterhouses that are killing cruelly and that is not something to be proud of. I used to love Black Angus, and all the American foodstuffs. I am now so turned off by the gross ways they are trying to clean up the foul meat for the consumption, and seeing how they slaughter, I am becoming vegetarian....Yes, I have slaughtered animals on my property before, dont give me that city slicker crap...There needs to be change, I believe if you want meat, raise it yourself, kill it yourself, in a humane way. Yes, there are ways to kill that need not be painful. Causing undue suffering of any life, is a sign of mental disturbance. Killing a chicken in the old days, when we didnt know any better is not comparable to now when we have better methods at our disposal. The use of ammonia is so heinous, who really wants to eat meat with window cleaner? Let us also get into hunting...I have Lymes disease from ticks in the forest, working for the forest service...I didnt realize just being out there could cause me to have such a horrific disease, and hunters are out there, eating tick covered animals, with ticks crawling all over them....Insane, no meat is worth this suffering, and I know most of these hunters have some disease from being out in the woods with prion infested bugs. At least plant bugs dont usually suck blood and spread diseases. I will grow my dinner in the garden now, thank you very much....

Moral of the story: Killing is not an answer to anything...it just causes more problems then solved.

Thou shalt not kill...period. Amen.

Connie Stinson

Does that mean you only grow food that regenerates, and that you are not killing it by harvesting?

Haha, good point John. "Thou shalt not kill" is kind of a blunt statement. But, I suspect the bible was referring to fauna, not flora. And more specifically, it was referring to humans. Otherwise all the Christians would be vegetarians.

Seen Soylent Green?

No, I haven't. I've seen a number of old movies but not that one. Looks like it shows the outcome of our exploding population.

Magicman...it's a creepy movie

Because we have destroyed the world, and global warming makes it impossible to grow crops because it is too hot, humans are the only thing that can be processed into food to feed the masses. Sound familiar? Interesting view from 1973 about the future.

vet1dee -

I seriously doubt you are a veteran and would guess your're around 12 years old playing on mommy's IPAD - If (God forbid) you were in the military I cringe to think of the innocent lives you destroyed or murdered.

@Connie My first post was a stab at humor. My second I apologized and stated that I felt a prison sentence was a bit harsh. I don't condone the mans actions but do believe the punishment too severe. The act of hunting for sport could be considered inhumane, the way calves are treated to produce veal is considered inhumane but there are no charges levied against them. Inprisoning the father is punishing his family more than it is him. He will get three hots and a cot as they say, at the tax payers expense. A court ordered anger management class that he has to pay for would be more appropriate. Prison time is a tax payer expense and a single mother with children on welfare and food stamps is a tax payer expense.

To appease the PETA group he should do community service at an animal shelter.

Rev J Wright: you have not contributed to the discussion other than showing how twisted and unstable you are. Your best option now is to try to repair your image, or stop commenting before you prove beyond a doubt what a pathetic and unpalatable creature you are.

John,

there is a big difference between killing livestock for food and killing children's pets. These kids didn't live on a farm. The guy is an abuser and he used what was handy to abuse those children and get even with his wife. In this case, he killed their pets. Bet your folks didn't butcher your dog or the family cat and serve them up for supper. I've lived on and around farms and I understand the distinction between food and pets. These rabbits weren't food, they were pets.

Hey mag(dick)man in the sky - 85 likes so far beats the hell out of your one. You were saying?

magicman in the sky

You haven't spent much time in the country, have you? I think the Rev's first comment is spot on as to how the proprietary nature of living rural can be. Also, there is a generational thing here that can not be denied. When I grew up, killing puppies that you could not feed was viewed as the humane thing to do. And believe it or not, humans used to do the same thing. It is the perception of what humane means that has changed.

Irrelevant. What is relevant is your total lack of regard for another living being, and your indifference to killing them painfully to appease your own perverted bloodlust, (ya, that's what I'd call it since you claim to have killed thousands of bunnies, and drowned kittens and puppies). Maybe you are incapable of comprehending how appalling these acts are. But, if you were indeed found guilty of these acts, you would certainly be sentenced to jail time.

mygirl1

Did you read my response to you earlier? I did eat my pet. And this dude may be an abuser, and that I won't condone, but using him killing his pets to throw him in jail at taxpayer expense is foolish and weak. A restraining order and anger management would have been much more appropriate. I am in no way saying he was right in doing what he did, I am saying the court is more wrong.

Hmm..the perceptions and the legal definition.

You know I grew up on a rural farm. No one in my family ever strangled, drowned or in any way purposley killed a companion pet. We did humanely kill feed stock that was raised for that purpose (which is why I haven't eaten meat since I was 12- over 30 years ago). So I guess that means my family was forward thinking? I guess what I'm trying to say is that there was, is and will always be people who are prone to cruelty. Don't try to make it look like a "rural" thing, or a "generational" thing. It's just a cruel thing.

Dear john - I think we might have accidently pushed the unstable magicman in the sky over the edge.

CONGRATULATION!

rmpb

So which is more cruel, having a litter of puppies you can't afford to feed and have them starve to death, or doing what you see as the humane thing and saving them from it? Ask your parents if they ever made that decision. I am sure your memory fails you.

John: just because the definition of "humane" has evolved over time doesn't constitute justifiable cause to kill animals in a painful way. You knew that dogs, cats, and other animals had brains, emotional reactions, and the ability to feel pain just as much as you do now. You knew that drowning them or twisting their bodies to death would be incredible painful and terrifying for the animal before its demise. You knew better. And, no, everyone in the past was not cruel to animals. Don't place your actions on others.

The humane thing to do is to sterilize your pets. If you have pets and you do not want them to reproduce, then you sterilize them. You do not let them have babies just so you can kill their offspring once they are born. If you are incapable of having this type of forethought to prevent them from having babies, then you should not have pets.

@Avery1960

Well done, you not only posted the stupidest, most idiotic rant about the Trayvon/Zimmerman situation, you managed to post it on the wrong page. Well done, tool.

magicman in the sky

First of all, don't presume that I have done any of this. You can presume that I have witnessed it first hand. You do not sterilize an animal that you might want to, or be able to breed in the future. Maybe there should be animal abortions because that seems to be legal for humans. And, how exactly would you know that it would be terrifying and painful when they are newborn. That is an assumption, but the fact is, most wouldn't even realize it was happening. And your assumption that you allow them to have offspring just so you can have the satisfaction of killing them is way off base.

All of you over the top bunny loving guys that live in Narnia, OZ or Never-Never Land and think a guy should go to prison for putting to small rodents out of their misery before his two brats could torture them to death by dropping, squeezing, pulling, bathing, blow drying, painting, stepping on, sleeping on and neglecting please see what a real front page news story is!

CNN.com

FAREED'S
TAKE

An
incarceration nation

Americans account for 5 percent of the world's
population but 25 percent of those behind bars, because prisons are a big
business, Fareed Zakaria says.

"You do not sterilize an animal that you might want to, or be able to breed in the future." Correct. I agree completely. But, those who drown the newborn animals obviously didn't want to have the babies, and did not have the forethought to sterilize their pets.

"but the fact is, most wouldn't even realize it was happening."

Really, that is the fact? Do you have definitive evidence or proof that this is the case? Do you have any support for this statement? No, you don't. so this would be classified as an "opinion" which is quite different from a fact. Would a human newborn feel any pain or terror while being drowned? I'm sure it would feel some type of primal panic or terror while being killed. Their nervous systems have been developed, and their brains can process this type of blunt trauma or lack of oxygen.

Animal abortions would be absurd, because if you didn't want them to reproduce you would have sterilized them before hand. Besides, if the animal had the baby, you could just put it up for adoption rather than going through the trouble of abortion. Of course abortions are legal.

I didn't make that assumption, but I can see how you mistakenly came to that conclusion from my comment.

@ magic

Growing up in a rural environment (farm life) in the 60's, sterolization of family pets was not a viable option, and offering free puppies or kittens to the neighbors wasn't either due to the fact they had their own pets, any euthanasing was by cheapest way possible. There was no Humane Society or PETA only the dog pound, and the vet charged too much for his service to have him do the honor. It was a cruel world then and still is today.

magicman in the sky

There you go assuming again, Actually I do know. As I stated earlier my family had sled dogs. It was a business and the breed was important. Occasionally a stray dog would enter our yard and hit up one of the bitches. When the puppies were born, a spade shovel was used and quickly severed their heads from their bodies. So no, they didn't see it coming and any pain they might have felt was only for an instant. And as far as I see, there is really no difference between what happened that I saw and current abortion laws.

I did not assume anything, John. But, you seem to enjoy assuming that I am assuming things. I am talking about inhumane treatment and killing of animals. Quickly severing the head of an animal is a humane way to dispatch an animal. So, you are going off topic. There are many ways to kill in a humane way. Current abortion laws are appropriate, and I was not disputing whether it is appropriate to dispatch an animal humanely depending on the circumstance.

""but the fact is, most wouldn't even realize it was happening."

Really, that is the fact? Do you have definitive evidence or proof that this is the case? Do you have any support for this statement? No, you don't. so this would be classified as an "opinion" which is quite different from a fact. "

If that was not an assumption, you try to explain what it was.

"You knew better. And, no, everyone in the past was not cruel to animals. Don't place your actions on others."

And here is another.

Hmmm, John.. It is you who is assuming things. Because you are the one who said, "but the fact is, most wouldn't even realize it was happening." That is an assumption, and I tried to show you why it was an assumption, not a fact.

But from my perception of what I have seen it is a fact, not an assumption. Just as your belief that abortions are quick and painless is your assumption ....unless you have seen them first hand.

You seem to have a double standard as far as animals and humans are concerned. You can't have it both ways, and some day you will have to reckon with that.

What you have gathered from your experiences constitutes as an opinion. It can not be classified as a fact unless it is proven that it is indeed a fact. Did I state in any way that abortions are quick an painless?? No. Even if I did see one first hand, and saw that it was quick and painless, this "observation" would not be a fact.

I have nothing against abortions or the humane euthanization of an animal under the correct circumstances, as long as they are humane.

My dad used to hunt rabbits.

But there's a huuuuge difference between a field rabbit and a holland lop bunny.

Field rabbits are pests, and hunters are encouraged to come onto farms to deal with them.

Holland lop bunnies are the CUTEST thing ever and anyone who would kill them with their bare hands in a heartless monster.

So says me.

(PS, I've eaten rabbit before. It's annoying having to spit out the buckshot. lolol)

You are right, what I would consider a fact from what I have seen, you would consider an opinion. Does that diminish my position of it being a fact? Only according to your opinion.

And my throwing "quick and painless" in as far as abortions go was kind of a joke because most who support PETA are very liberal. And very liberal people tend to support the right to choice. (I do as well actually) Now that was an assumption. Personally I find it kind of hypocritical.

However, the problem lies in the idea that is okay to kill a fetus, but not an animal. I don't think it stems from right or wrong on a global scale, I think it stems from causes, and no matter how noble, there are competing arguments that can be made.

It makes me think of a saying that I once heard. "There is no right or wrong, there is only opinion."

We don't know that this man didn't humanely kill the bunnies.

Did the bunnies have to die? Probably not.

Should that be a reason for two years in jail? Really? I don't think so. There are so many other ways this could have been handled, I think it is a sad testament to humanity when this is what is used to protect a mother and her children.

Well, if you didn't read my previous post, my point is that its all about semantics.

Lop bunnies are cuuuute

Field rabbits are a pest

Fetuses look like ugly seahorses

I'm pretty sure, the reason that killing a bunny is animal cruelty because those bunnies weren't "meant" to die. They were domesticated pets that we're loved by humans. That gives their lives value.

Just like with fetuses, with 6 billion people in the world and rising rapidly, we don't assign them much worth. Further, there is a entire metaphysical debate regard self awareness and the meaning of life to consider with regards to a fetuses value.

I don't consider a fetus to qualify as human because it is not self aware. That just means it doesn't get the set of protections and rights we assign to being 'human'. That is the Value of a human life. Which is different from its worth. Worth is assigned by by society. Value is intrinsic and emotional, something much harder to define. It comes from love, empathy and emotional connections. Hence why the value of a unloved serial murderer's life is far less then that of a Lop Bunny. <3

Cirnobyl

My comment was not a reply to yours but the one above that I had been having a convo with. Them wascolly wabbits.

ohoh well thats ok then. It gave me a chance to rant anyway so it's all good :)

No, opinions have nothing to do with fact. If you "think" something is a fact in your mind, that doesn't make it any more of a fact. Otherwise I could think that there is a bowl of spaghetti on mars, and say it is a fact. Does that make it a fact? No. Even if I think it is one, it is still just an opinion. Don't mix opinion and fact with each other.

Twisting a bunny to death is not humane. It is incredibly painful, and a cruel way to kill something. He did it out of spite and malice, with no regard to the life of the bunny. This is animal cruelty and warrants a jail sentence.

"There is no right or wrong, only opinion." I suppose that is correct in some convoluted way. But our society has established a set of morally correct things and wrong things. These things that are universally accepted as wrong, such as rape, torture, kidnapping, etcetera and are no longer wrong just in opinion, but established wrongs by the code humans live by and by society. Animal cruelty falls under one of these established wrongs.

And, yes. I think jail time is absolutely necessary in a case like this. A message needs to be sent that these actions will not be tolerated or accepted. The laws that protect animals must be upheld without exceptions.

I wouldn't consider a human embryo a human from the moment of conception either. When the human embryo is extremely young, such as the moment it is conceived to a couple weeks of age, it is extremely similar to the embryos of other mammals, birds, reptiles and other species. At the early stages, many of the genes within the embryo are dormant. This means they are not being expressed. Only after the embryo grows and ages do these genes begin to express and the human fetus becomes different from other species. Only in concept or your mind is the embryo human from the moment of conception. Fact is, at this beginning stage the human embryo is nearly identical to any other species'. It is incredibly absurd how some people define the embryo as a "human" from the moment of conception, and decide to give it rights. At the moment of conception you can just as easily define a cow's embryo as "human". A human's embryo has the potential to become a human, but it is still a long ways away from legitimately being defined as one. Correct, a fetus does not have a matured brain or nervous system, so it does not have a conscience or self awareness.

magicman in the sky

In any court in the land, things that are seen first hand are considered fact. I saw it, therefore fact, so bite me.

And your trying to justify abortion to not justify the killing of animals is simply pathetic. We are all animals, regardless of your whackjobedness. A puppy has the potential to become a dog? Really? What a hypocrite. Your running on fumes dude, refuel.

If you believe in the supposition that a puppy has the right to become that which it is meant to be, than every conception grows a child that has a right to become what it is meant to be. You can lay as many semantics as you would like on the alter of rationalization, but they are one in the same. And morally, you should be condemning every abortion as much as every animal killed.

As I have stated, I am pro-choice, however, I am pro-choice across the board, not when it suits me.

In the State of Florida: Two years for killing bunnies but less than a slap on the wrist for the cold-blooded killing of an African American child?

And justice for all my ass.

John, you are absolutely incorrect. You are twisting the definition out of context. Being a witness to a crime serves as proof for a crime. That is a fact because the witness is truthfully conveying exactly what they saw. But, you are making observations from what you saw. You can not make a definite observation and define it as a fact from one instance of seeing something, until undeniable evidence or proof is presented as qualification. You are very loose on the definition of fact, so I suggest you look it up.

"And your trying to justify abortion to not justify the killing of animals is simply pathetic." Hmmm, you lost me here.. What exactly are you trying to say? Yes, we are all animals. Did I say anything to the contrary? Did I say a puppy has the potential to become a dog? What are you talking about?? I did say that a human fetus has the potential to become a human, but it is not a human until it obtains self awareness, a conscience, and some level of maturation. A bundle of cells is not a human. You suggest you stop breathing in fumes, because it appears you are already low on brain cells.

Yes, the fetus of a puppy, and the fetus of a human will eventually mature into their respective forms. They have the potential. Your point?

"And morally, you should be condemning every abortion as much as every animal killed."

I do not condemn abortions, nor do I condemn the death of an animal if there is a valid reason and it is done humanely. But, there must be a justifiable and valid reason. That would not be animal cruelty.

Actually, I have a 150 IQ, and if I am lower on brain cells it is because of this conversation. It was not one instance of seeing something, and it was not only due to my family. I have seen plenty. And your definition of a crime was not always the case. You might like to believe that there is not a different view of "humane" than your own, but that is not the case.

You throw it out there like all life is sacred, but on your terms. You vilify people who kill animals, but believe that human life is less. Now, you state that there needs to be a justifiable and valid reason, perhaps you should re-read some posts of the people you have chastised and actually ask them if they had those reasons that would fit into your mold.

I do not claim to know everything, but I sure as hell don't feel I am qualified to be judge, jury, and executioner. Apparently you do. Good luck with that.

I have yet to take an IQ test. But, I do know that I score in the top 1 percent in state testing, take Honors classes, and get A's. Also, my grandfather is a nuclear physicist and my father is a physician who went through 13 years of school to learn his trade. So, I don't think you are mentally outclassing anyone in this discussion, John. But, you might be beating me by about 20 years. I base my definition of humane, on the definition of humane. A fact is a fact, and humane treatment is humane treatment. My personal feelings, preference, or ideas have nothing to do with what is classified as humane. And, no, people can't just go around and make up their own definition on humane or make their own interpretation of the laws. Otherwise, they will be charged and incarcerated.

"You vilify people who kill animals, but believe that human life is less."

I have to hand it to you, you are good at putting words in other peoples' mouths. I don't vilify people who kill animals, as I've stated in the past several comments. But I'll say it again, I vilify people who are cruel to animals or treat them inhumanely. They must have a valid and appropriate reason, but they must also dispatch of the animal in a humane way. For example, a couple years ago we had to put our dog Lena down by lethal injection because of old age. Or, another instance that an animal could be put down humanely is if it was born with a defect that will prevent it to live a comfortable life. But, if a litter of puppies are born, and the owner does not want them, then they go up for adoption. They are not drowned. And, they are not treated inhumanely.

I hope you respond soon, because I am about to go to bed. Cheers

Just a couple of random thoughts here:

1. These days it is cheap and fairly easy to have a dog / cat spayed so it doesn't make a lot of sense to kill puppies and kittens but I do not think the posters are talking about the current situation. All you need to do is put an ad up at the corner store and someone will take them off your hands. That was not always the case. Once upon a time everyone and his uncle had a pregnant something giving birth under the kitchen table that is why we now have spay and neuter programs. So yes it is kinder to have killed excess puppies and kittens when taken in context of the historical time I believe the above posters are speaking of but if someone is doing these days they just are not that bright as there are better solutions.

2 I produce my own meat. That means I kill things other people think of as cute and eat them. You get used to it. It is not the big deal people think it is nor is it unnatural. Actually there is nothing more natural. Some animals eat other animals - get over it.

3. As usual we are getting a small part of the story. Odds are this guy needed to go to jail. He had multiple prior charges for domestic violence against him dropped and doesn't sound very well balanced. Given the chance to guess I would assume his wife had dropped them "out of love" or "because he promised he would never do it again" only to wise up during the bunny twisting episode and realise what he was really capable of doing. Unable to prosecute the old dropped cases the legal eagles went after the case they had.

4. To the poster who said that a protective order would be a better option I hate to burst your bubble but with actual nut cases (and this guy probably is one) they don't work.

5. Yes, I said he was a nut case. Come on folks he didn't kill them to eat them he killed them because he was mad and wanted to control his family and the situation. Big difference. Why you do something really does matter. It says a lot about who you are.

6. Farm kids see livestock killed all the time and so do young hunters. That is not child abuse. This was. Why? Again because of intent. The unspoken or possibly even spoken message in his actions was "defy me and you or something you love will die and ugly painful death" that IS abusive. Abuse doesn't always leave physical scars sometimes the worst scars are the ones nobody can see. The hidden mental scars that keep you trapped in a lifetime of repeating the cycle.

Ask your parents if they ever made that decision. I am sure your memory fails you.

You would be wrong in that ASSumption John. My family spayed and neutered our pets. When the neighbors dog knocked up our beagle when she was 6 months old we allowed her to have the puppies and placed them in homes. My father would bring home puppies that worthless people threw into the landfill so that I could try to nurse them back to health- if they lived we found homes for them, if not I tended to cry. People used to dump cats off on our farm all the time and my parents just added another bag of cat food to the agway order. Sometimes there were as many as 20 strays running around our farm. We never hurt any of them. Don't pretend you know something about a person that you've never even met. My experiences and the way my parents raised me caused me to become a veterinary technician.

rmpb

You are correct. I should not have made that ASSumption. I should only speak for myself. Where I grew up, and that was a long time ago, things were different. It was just as humane to shoot a stray as it was to euthanize one. It was simply a different time and place. If an animal was hit by a car it was put out of its misery, it was not taken to a vet to see if it could be saved. Cats stayed out side and were not fed, so that they would mouse.

I may seem cold-hearted, but I don't get off on the misery of anything. For the most part it was simply more often than not, how things were done. Maybe not where you came from, but surely where I did.

That sentence was harsh...So was what he did to the children's pets and in turn their psyche...

I really question how the father killed those rabbits. If any of you have ever heard a rabbit being slowly killed (twisting the neck) you would also question it. Trust me, there is a very distinct sound that will stay with the person that has ever heard a rabbit "scream". It is a very high-pitched, shrill squeal/scream. The only way to not hear it from a healthy rabbit is a quick death.

If the person reporting the crime gave details such as the look on the kids faces and the blood on the man, where was the comment about the sounds coming out of the bathroom? Or was it sound proof?

I hope one of them wasn't the Easter bunny then my kids would be devistated.

Were the bunnies wearing hoodies?

What about Sear being a sick, twisted, and VERY violent person do you not understand?? He took an animal and killed it in one of the most horrific ways ... not once, but threee times, and in revenge towards his wife due to an arguement with total disregard of his minor children witnessing it?

It would have been perfectly legal for him to humanely kill them and cook them without making his kids bear witness to the slaughter or the violent rampage aspect of it.

You joke about it ... yet think, if he has 2 puppies and had the same arguement, then proceeded to twist or stomp 2 puppies to death because he was angry, would you still be joking about it???

Obviously his anger manifests itself quite physically. What other arguements has he had or will he have that the need to "get physical" about it will result in harm to others: his wife, his kids, his neighbors, the guy who tailgates ot cuts him off??? This is a sick person with total disregard for life. Most abusers like this have demonstrated this propensity since childhood .... a significant number of them become what we now kindly refer to as "sociopath". It used to be known as psychopath ... but it has been subdivided to differentiate been the ones who can seem to "fit in nicely" with others and those who no one would dare walk in front of the house of because2 they know something bad will happen if they do.

Wanton killing to express rage is not the same as humane slaughter for food. Those who joke about any kind of wanton killings of animals, kids (ther was a reference to Casey Anthony), spouses, or any other living, breathing creature needs psycholigical diagnostic therapy ASAP.

Recycled, Let us hope that this loose cannon will be arrested, with the 'help' of the bunnies. Maybe justice needed the bunnies death, to hold onto this bully for being a prick.

@ryan--you rock!! i think the exact same thing should happen to this 'so called' human being!!

...but kill an unarmed black teenager in FL, and you won't even get arrested...

Dancnman it is truly tragic anytime someone is killed even more when they are young, but the truth is that black teenagers kill other black teenagers every day in America and it doesn't make the news or prompt marches or protest. A very high percentage of violent crimes are black on black and white on white. Zimmerman was called a white Hispanic by news media to try to inflame racial tention just in time to pull the black voting base back to Obama, who by the way is just as much white as Zimmerman is. Oboma said Martin looked like he could be his son, how about if Oboma's white half came out in his son he might also look like Zimmerman. If you can not see through this scam you are just not looking.

Heeereee's Johnny.......Hasenpfeffer anyone??? Total lunitic, put him out of his misery.

American stop being blind....There are marches,protests,community meetings and programs all aimed at stopping the violence in our cities...The shooting of an un-armed innocent child and the shooter going free is another issue...So open your eyes it is not about what color or race or ethnicity anyone was it is about justice..

He didn't twist them to death for dinner. He did what he did because he was enraged and he wanted to hurt his wife. WAY different than going grocery shopping....no?

And what kind of message was inprinted in the minds of the children?

"Ringing of necks" is a well and long practiced method of "animal" dispatching for butchering...but I think the point isn't what he did but why he did what he did and the effect it was meant to have on his wife and kids

Give me a break! What idiot judge gives a guy time for killing a rabbit? People get less than this for drug deals and beatings! This is outrageous...the judge should be the one in jail. What and idiot!!

you gotta pay the government via hunting license fees before you kill ol bugsy !otherwise it is a crime.

the only thing I can think of is the guy told the judge to F off. Likely, the judge got p i s t. Thats one thing you dont do because they can give you life for jaywalking. Again, this is 3 bunnies--not 10,000 or something..... Growing up on a farm, I would be life in prison for all the cra p I did.

The judge is a woman. She likes fuzzy bunnies. She doesn't like men. Case closed.

@jollyjoker, it's not that he killed them, it's how and why. Apparently, you tink it's ok to torture. Maybe you should be in the cell,next to him, you're just as sick. Things like him, eventually go on to kill and abuse kids, and their wives.

Some of you guys are pretty sicko.. even trying to be humorous. First of all he probably got the sentence for the child abuse , but added to it with the cruelty charge. As for Mr. Phoniques (who I generally never ready anymore), yes ringing necks has been around a long time, but twisting a body until death (and bleeding) is a whole other thing. Why don't we just let people stomp on a chicken until it dies? Guess you guys haven't read how people who abuse animals generally end up abusing kids/people (obsiously he already made that transition).

It seems jolly joker that you just don't want to get the point...the act of killing an animal is one thing, and the INTENTION + CIRCUMSTANCE behind the act is another...\

Maybe you are completely numb from having witnessed so many cruel deaths on your farm as a kid.

Maybe your mind just doesnt register that animals are not objects.

And for the record all the cruelty that happens in industrial farming should send many of these workers to life in jail indeed. Many of them are sick sadist.

from a meat eater.

You are all missing the point here. What he did was cruel, inhumane, and downright sick. It's one thing to hunt animals, then prepare them for dinner. It's another to twist to death (not just break it's neck for a quick death) an innocent, defenseless animal who experiences fear and pain, and for no other reason than he was angry. The guy has severe psychological and mental problems, no question. Don't you know serial killers often have a history of animal abuse? If this guy is capable of doing this, he is capable of much worse. Animal cruelty rings right up there with child abuse in my book- it is sick and deranged to hurt anything innocent and helpless just out of spite. Reading this story made me sick to my stomach. The guy is a piece of ****.

If you *really* can't understand the distinction between what this sick f**k did and what the workers in the food industry do, there really isn't much hope for you, is there?

You guys are a bunch of morons. You know that people who kill animals for food consumption have to LEARN how to do it, right? There are ways to minimize suffering- taking your pets into the bathroom and wringing their necks is animal cruelty, plain and simple.

And yes, my family has been in the slaughterhouse business.

This guy should be in jail, plain and simple. Quite honestly, I'm surprised he didn't get a longer sentence, but then again, he struck a plea deal.

jolly joke: I eat beef....not beaf....not sure what you eat....

While I agree that animals are killed for food for us to eat.....what he did was insane and very hurtful to his kids. They were obviously the kids pets.

I hope you heartless people who think it was ok for him to do it, don't have kids......or pets.........

@MrPhea-

That's 'Wringing of necks'

Jolly, you aren't related to this cretin are you? What the hell is wrong with people? Honestly, I like animals better. They have far more compassion and intelligence than humans will ever have.

I am a person who has had house rabbits for over 10 years and this is one of the most disgusting and vile things I have ever read. First of all, a bunny is a soft, cuddly herbivore and is not violent in any way. For someone to end their lives so cruelly and violent makes me ill. And why not give him the fullest extent of the law in punishment? What is with the "trumped-up" child abuse and domestic violence? This "person" (I can't in good conscience call him a man) belongs in a solitary confinement cell or to be taken to the farthest reaches of a continent where there is no one and nothing and dropped out of a plane without a parachute! I'm sorry, I do consider myself a Christian, but you don't mess with hurting animals and/or children. Maybe in prison the other cellmates will hear more about child abuse, and I've heard they don't condone that, so he may get his punishment anyway.

Give me a break! What idiot judge gives a guy time for killing a rabbit? People get less than this for drug deals and beatings! This is outrageous...the judge should be the one in jail. What and idiot!!

He didn't get time for killing the rabbits, he got time for inflicting harm on his family. If you think it is okay to kill your children's pets because your PO'd at your wife then you need to seek help. Fast.

The ONLY reason (excuse) for him being charged with/convicted for "domestic violence" is that it happened at home and was the result of a "domestic dispute". He ain't going to prison because he killed a few bunnies -- it's for "domestic violence".

Yeah, and I'm Jack and that there vine is really my Beanstalk.

He's going to jail for child abuse. You don't have to physically harm your child to be abusive.

Rev. Whatever has a point somewhere in his diatribe, yet the terroristic domestic behavior needed to be smacked down.

But Skookums, you, dude, you were on a roll! LOL.

I'd say a man with an explosive temper who kills animals to terrorize his wife and children into submission would be a pretty good candidate for 'poses a threat'. Wiping the blood on his face just earns him bonus points.

I thought you people were tough on crime and embraced family values? What happened, was this guy white?

The story did not say he 'wiped blood on his face'. He had blood on his face - it could have squirted out as he twisted the rabbits.

I agree he poses a threat - cruelty to animals usually leads to physical abuse of humans, not to mention the psychological torture this guy exerts on his family. If the conviction gives her ammo for a divorce with NO VISITATION rights, the family is better off. I hope she has the backbone to follow through.

It takes a certain kind of sadism to go into a bathroom with four bunnies then twist them to death one after another. I'm not sure I want someone who is so completely incapable of empathy (for the animal or the children) to be out and about.

A crime is a crime,,, he did it,,not sure that 2 years is enough though,, sounded like they were house bunnies which are easy to take care of and feed... I hope he get a cell with bubba who needs a cell "bunny"

He was imprisoned for child abuse. He is an abuser. Should we wait until he decides to get back at wife by twisting the children's necks before holding him accountable for his behavior? Then we would all be saying- he killed the rabbits, why didn't anybody do anything about it then?

His two previous charges were DISMISSED. Or did you just not want to even see that?

Oh, and if killing a bunnie is "child abuse" -- then every farmer in the world should be sent to prison for a minimum of 50 years.

@ctquick

This guy IS a danger to society. If he doesn't understand the bounds of Domestic Violence then he doesn't understand the bounds of public violence.

Maybe you would like to accidentally step on this guys toes at the mall?

ctquick.

You are right, It cost tax payers lot to jail someone like that moron which " in your opinion" is not a threat to society. ARE YOU F###KING retarded? I will gladly contribute my taxes just for something like that. He IS a threat to society, and so do YOU. Why don't you move in with him, I believe the jail cell will accommodate the two of you.

@quack, please think before you quack. Farmer -- guy killing bunnies in the bathroom to shut his wife up are two different contexts. Perhaps that escaped you. See skookum for further analysis.

ashleyaddams

you should get 2 years for your goody-2-shoes outlook...get real!!!

I have 3 cats.

I'm really glad you are not my neighbor.

@Areyou buyingthis....you sound like a real prince. Obviously you were not shown genuine love and affection by your mama and dad as a child. You really sound heartless and cruel. I hope something switches inside you to help you realize the gravity of what this guy did....he deserves jail---he deserves to rot there on a diet of carrots and lettuce as a daily reminder of what he did to these innocent creatures!

Ever have to get up out of bed three or four times EVERY night just to feed them animals that you got for your kids (and it's the kids who're supposed to take care of 'em)? No? Then you should have ZERO room for any opinion on it.

If you don't want to take care of them, don't get them. If you get them and then decide you're an idiot and shouldn't have gotten them, call the humane society. If you're a sociopath, twist them until they are dead. Or defend someone else who did.

To The Quacked One.

Your name Say's it all. You are QUACKED. Do you have kids? Did you help your mate in the middle of the nights to feed them? Ho! wait, you are going to tell me (animals are not people). Go play in traffic, and don't come back. ZERO room for YOUR opinions HERE. No loss here.

um...I think we all know that, if you wring something's neck and you get blood out of it, you're just a bit overzealous and just a cruel @!$%#.

If what the article said was true, he tortured those rabbits. I hate to think that those of you who come from farms delighted in torturing your animals.

spiceman - got to give you props - one of the funniest comments yet Hand Control Now! LOL

Besy reply ever

Perhaps some middle-eastern justice would help = removal of hands with a court order forbidding any prostheses.

Hell yeah Joe! He does have reputation for choken the chicken.

They probably would have asked for the death penality. That's malicious ----chicken with the blood splurting around the yard from the neck. My go d ! its a holocost....It would have been more humane to process them with an electrical shock before they boil them.

Russel, are you trying to be funny? Because if you are, talk about an massive fail. I hope you have at least a single brain cell to know there is a HUGE difference between what you're describing and the story at hand. If you don't get it, then I'm afraid there is no explaining it to you, and I am sorry for you. Same goes to you, jolly joker.

Big difference Russell - surprising you don't see the obvious. Your father did what he had to so as to provide a meal for his family. The @!$%# in this story had no motivation or purpose other than anger he can not control, a thirst to kill, and a need to impose anguish on his wife and children. He killed because he likes causing pain and sufferring to those who are weaker than him. IOW, he's a sick dude. Big difference Russell. Would you want this sadistic bunny killer around your children???????

Rochomp, you're the one that doesn't get it! With all the stories out there, about teachers raping children, child killers, starving homeless, people like you seem to get your rocks (if you have any) off by screaming indignation over a few rabbits. YES, that's how some people kill them to eat them. YES, he was angry! Yes, he did wrong! NONONO he did NOT commit an act worthy of being Bubba's girlfriend, or of being a cinvicted felon. Slap him on the hand, fine him and send him home. But YOUm YOU WANT him to be a bloodthirsty monster, whose kids will be scarred for life. In reality, 10 years from now, the kids will tell this story at a family reunion, and laugh at people like you, who got their panties twisted.

Randy, no one is arguing that there aren't other atrocities and injustices in the world. I am just as appalled as anyone else at the examples you have given. That doesn't take away from the seriousness of this particular story. People who abuse animals are very sick in the head. That you read this story and take it as lightly as you do is disturbing. Had his kids witnessed the brutality, I promise you it would be something they would remember for life, and not in a funny haha kind of way.

Years ago I lived on the farm and had chopped a few chicken heads off. Use to hear that women when they killed chickens they wrung their necks to do so. Of course they was for eating and not for trying to show meaness to anybody.

To randy marble falls, TX

heck! I am laughing right now at people like YOU. People like you, I don't think of them as Humans or Animals for that matter. You are a class beneath that, let see!! VERMIN AND EVIL.

The judge could have fined him...Look at all the animals that exxon valdez or that spill killed in the gulf. What about the windmills out there killing eagles??????? For all those harsh killings you would have half of the ceo's in jail. This is nuts.

It certainly is, no question.

And that animal abusing scumbag needs to be the Prison Industry's customer.

I hope his cell mate is a 6'7" 275# sexual sadist animal lover.

So an oil company willfully doesn't do their due diligence and kills millions of sea animals... Zero time? And a guy kills a couple of negleted rabbits and 2 years in the pen. Sounds fair to me. This judge is kooky .

Perhaps you don't value your life over that of a bunny...or a mouse....or a fly...but I think you're lying. Do you at least value your children's lives over the lives of the pets?

You are either seriously disturbed or incredibly stupid if you equate the life of a pet to that of a human being.

In reality, you're really just a bleeding heart type who can't be honest with themselves. In any of these cases, please don't procreate.

Anyone that really thinks that an animals life is as valuable as a humans needs to serve two years, you mean you had just as well see your child killed as see a rabbit killed, you are a very sick excuse of a person. It seems you value human life just as much as he did animal life, not much!

Perhaps you don't value your life over that of a bunny...or a mouse....or a fly...but I think you're lying. Do you at least value your children's lives over the lives of the pets?

I don't think the man who commited this offense values his family in the least. If he had, he wouldn't have killed the family pets to prove a point.

People who can't see the difference between killing food stock and killing a companion animal are scary.

jolly...the oil company should be punished, too. But we all know that all they have to do is pay a fine they can easily afford, and nothing else.

Sounds like you might need some time in jail. No matter how sick his actions were to the rabbits, people are infinitely more valuable than animals.

I suspect you can pick out hundreds of more crimes (rape, murder, etc..) far worse than what this man did....but by all means save the deepest pit of hell for him.....good thinking.

I feel like some furry, kinky fun! Here, Kitty, Kitty...

Molly, refer to my comment #3.11. His problems are beyond anger management.

Rochomp, so are yours...

You seem to have it out for me, Randy. What's your problem? You're mad at me because I find animal cruelty particulary disturbing? Everyone is entitled to voice their opinions on the things that matter to them. If this particular issue is important to me, what gives you the right to slam me for it? Back off already.

It is disturbing, Rochomp, as are the people here who cannot differentiate between farm life and wringing the life out of your children's pets for the sole reason of instilling terror. By their reasoning, it would be no big deal to stab your kids' puppy to death in front of them. Un-friggin'- believable. Anything for the sake of argument.

So, because there are wars going on, and famine in the world, we should, as one genius said, slap him on the hand and send him home... to continue destroying his children. If you have no sympathy for the rabbits, how about his kids?

Thank you, emmygee. It's nice to see other compassionate, reasonable, and intelligent people on here.

Rochomp, emmygee, I second that emotion.

better than being the lawyer who defended the guy for domestic battery and child abuse, which is the actual reason for the sentence. (I suspect he also smarted off to the judge - most courts would have ordered probation and therapy for such behavior. An unrepentant wise-ass can always get a stiffer-than-average sentence.) Sometimes a judge will pass sentence for previously-dismissed charges when they disagree with that decision. They do look at the person's history.

if, could...woulda coulda shoulda again people grow up! This is REAL. It is not about how DRAMATIC you can make it with your little fantasies. And again they are RABBITS. Bunnies are in the cartoons they are not real eaither. Come on you can say the word rabbit can't you, come on you can do it.

Bob...it is time for your meds.

laura, it's time for some rabbit stew!

Randy, Marble Falls, TX. It is TIME for YOU to disappear. Take everyone that believe as you do with you. Good riddance

Amen!

Sorry for your loss Jim; I hope they were no relation!

I've got your number Jackie, I can't say too much for you humans

All these years you've been watching me on TV,,,, I've been watching back!

Bunnies also have a 2nd Amendment & we have a "Carrot Party" ready for revolution!

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Boy you would look good fried Jim, with mashed potatoes and gravy !!

And in a perfect world everyone's priorities would be the same.

But this is not a perfect world and this issue is not about all the horrors the man has visited upon man from century to century. This is a sad story about a terrorized family who had probably been terrorized by this man for years. They finally had enough. It is just an illustration of a narrow, mean-spirited man who felt entitled to show brute strength by killing. It matters little if it was a kitten, a puppy...... What matters is what will be his next cowardly act? A wife? A child? Arson?

The facts still appear to be this: A husband and a father lost total control and tried to regain his "position" by wringing the necks of bunnies as to demonstrate: if this is what I will do to a bunny what do you think I'll do to you?

jackie..I am an animal lover, and if I saw you or someone else doing something cruel to anything, animal or human, I would do my best to stop it.

However, I have no problem w/my priorities...I would chose a person over an animal any day if it came to that.

There is NO reason to be cruel to anyone or anything.

If what they say this man did is true, he terrorized his wife and kids. He meant to scare them. He didn't threaten to beat anyone, which is probaby the least he would have done if the rabbits weren't there. He knew this was the best way to scare his kids and hurt his wife.

He abuses animals, and he abuses those he supposedly loves. He should have been punished the first tme he got in trouble, but most likely his wife wouldn't push it very far.

depends, if he was black, then it's still a crime.

yep, I first head this analogy on TJSotomayor.he said if you shoot a dog, people will come running at you and take you apart.Killing blackmen is the all american sport.I bet money zimmy walks on this.

Yep... all those slaughterhouse workers out their killing chickens and beaf...are READY to spring out and wipe out america. Have you lost your mind?

So if someone uses a magnifying glass on ants - we should lock them up because we can predict(?!) they will eventually likely hurt someone. Give me a break. By the same logic we should lock people up for having a beer, because drinking alcohol (usually?) ALWAYS precedes drunk driving. Idiot.

Yes, because some quack, not to change animals here, but in interviewing murderer's when the question of ever burnt an ant or stepped on a frog as a youth was asked 90% said yes. Never mind that 90% of the staff around the interview also answered yes, they hadn't killed anyone, yet. And so the link between curious kid's and grown up murderer's has been linked. Yes now that we are grown up the act does seem sick, but are you? That seem's to be the fact they missed saying violence against animal's is just a matter of time before you move up to people.

Being cruel to animals for no reason is simply wrong. There is a big difference between killing because you need to eat, and killing simply because you can. If you cannot see that difference, I suspect you have been abused or have some serious issues.

In Dawsonville Ga. you are allowed to shoot stray dogs (so if your dogs gets loose it's fair game) this must be because of rabies.

This guy is a lazy ahole through and through. He killed the little animals because he didn't want to wake up and feed them. I agree the two years is excessive. The judge should have demanded that he walk around with a sign saying I am such a lazy ahole that I killed some bunnies because I didn't want to wake up and feed them.

I took my kids hunting with me since they were 5 years old. Killing animals for food is a natural act. Most people that live in the cities have lost sight of there hertitage and think that because they don't like it, no one should be allowed to do it.As for killing an animal just to get rid of it, it is a waste of one of Gods gifts, but in means should the man be sent to prison.

This is not about killing for food; it is about the wanton, enraged slaughter of family pets, simply because someone was too lazy and immature to feed them. This is NOT a natural act. The person who did this has some serious problems, and he took it out on innocent creatures. Would you prefer that such egregious behavior be ignored until he does something similar again, possibly to one of his kids? Furthermore, doesn't anyone have any regard for life, human or otherwise?

This is NOT about hunting, guns, abortion, etc.

ELLEN HUNT. Correction, AMERICA IS A GREAT COUNTRY. You can leave anytime from our beloved USA. We have too many mental defects like you, so ADIEU. B@#tch

Most people really don't get it. This has nothing to do with killing animals. He could have gone in the bathroom and smashed and broken the toilet, faucets and yelled and screamed and received the same sentence. What he did is a threat to the safety of his wife and kids. The kids and wife will be in so much fear of this monster because he can simply kill what they love and they can't stop him.

This has nothing to do with the death of an animal