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Subscribe to RSSMIAMI -- At least one gunman opened fire on a crowd or mourners gathered at a Miami-area funeral home, killing two people and injuring 12, authorities said.
The shooting happened Friday night at Funeraria Latina Emanuel in the North Miami area. More than 100 people were gathered outside the funeral home when a car drove by and at least one person inside the vehicle fired shots, reportedly with a high-powered weapon, the Miami Herald reported.
"Horror, it was horrible and it was sounds of horror," said pastor A.D. Lenoir of Westview Baptist Church, NBC 6 Miami reported.
Lenoir had just finished officiating the service for 21-year-old Marvin Andre, who was killed in a March 18 shooting, according to witnesses. He was buried at nearby Southern Memorial Park Saturday morning
Among the injured was a 5-year-old girl, McKayla Bazile, according to authorities.
"I grabbed her so we could go and she was screaming and I'm like 'why are you screaming,' I thought she was scared," said Someta Etienne, WSVN-TV reported. "Then I saw the blood coming from her pants."
Alvaro Zabaleta of Miami-Dade Police said that it is too early to determine the motive for the shooting.
"Whenever you have these types of services, you have a lot of people present, they all become witnesses," Zabaleta said. "Too early to tell what the motive may be and if the person in the viewing has anything to do with it."
An eyewitness told NBC 6 that a suspect in a white Pontiac opened fire on people as they waited outside for their turn to view the body.
"I was in the foyer, shaking hands, galvanizing with the people and shots were fired," said Lenoir.
Police were looking for six men who were in a white 2006 or 2009 Pontiac or Impala, according to WSVN-TV.
NBC 6 Miami contributed to this report.
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This only happens at latino and african american funerals....just can't stop killing each other..and wonder why people don't like you...just kill each other and get it over with please...i want ya to go too!
Does your racism have a credible source??
Well, he IS right.
Couldn't die in a more convenient location ....
Say Q54, with comments like that, you may...go too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU BIGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go back to watching your Fox News Network and Rush Limbaugh!!!
And people don't like you, Q54, because you are a liar and a coward.
HE did not kill his entire family,put his parents in old folks home to steal their money ,or rape children sooooo he can not be white.
HE did not kill his entire family or rape children soooooo he can not be white
That's like saying: There go the trailer white women, killing their babies again...
Let's try to be a little more adult, huh??
Keeping it real though....and not to say that it is or will always be exclusive to people of color, but the bigot above may have a point. He took it too far, of course. Perhaps in the form of a question (why does this seem to happen at....etc.) would have made the point less offensive?
Where are Mr. Sharpton, Mr. Jackson, the ALCU, the DOJ, and Mr. Obama on this shooting ?
If comments, marches, and protests are made in one case.....DO IT FOR EVERYONE.
And here comes the gun comments.....5..4..3..2..1..0.
It doesn't matter if you ban weapons completely in the U.S., which a lot of Liberals would like, the "thugs", "gang members", and "others" are going to get them anyway.
yeah they are killing each other, while you're rapeping, school shooting and serial killing them all!!.....
At the risk of sounding racist i have to agree. From my experiences and information networks i tend to notice more of this particular type of activity coming from certain ethnicity's than others. I'm sure its not a absolute color problem. Just that the minorities, particularly these ethnicity's, travel different paths as they grow up. Its almost more of a social divide than a racial divide.
Find the problem of why teens and family's are traveling down such roads of destitute and fix that first. That will keep these individuals from joining a life of crime and gang society, which leads them to acts like this.
The only surprise here is it made national news. I live in South Florida and a drive by happens at least three times a week in Dade county. Thats why I stay out of Dade.
It happens in many places. I used to live in a major city in the northeast and worked nights. If you sat by an open window, you'd hear gunfire occasionally and it never made the news. A 14 year old relative of a co-worker was caught in the crossfire of a drive-by while in her front yard and was brought into the hospital where I worked. The docs saved her but they had to remove her spleen. This didn't make the news, either. Horrible!!!
Only in Florida
Well, when was the last time you heard of this happening at the funeral of a white person? Maybe there's no statistics, but there's also not much reporting that I can recall, but it seems to be something that happens in more of the "gangbang" type cultures?
Maybe all the police had been diverted to crowd control at the Martin Rally. Wonder if any of these folks looked like Obama's son?
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theQ54 is obviously a Troll looking to stir the pot some...anyone that gets offended and posts any negative crap in regards to his baseless comments only makes themselves look worse than the bigot.
Our gun loving society is the envy of the rest of the developed countries.
And this scenario is a good example of who will still have guns - if law-abiding citizens turn theirs in. I'll keep mine, thanks.
I would love to see statistics WilliamOfRites, showing that our "gun loving society" has a worse crime rate per capita than any other society.
Dead on prof- , goes back to that cliche' saying. If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have them.
I'll tell you what William.. If the time ever comes when a natural disaster or other circumstances wipe out the infrastructure, and/or our ability to go the grocery store then me and my gun toting a$$ will be the 1 eating, and will be able to hold on to what I have..
Yep Gary Fields who ever will have the most poiwerful guns will be able to kill and steal some ones food that doesn't.! Oh I forgot guns don't kill its the ammo that does
"Paranoia will destroy ya!"
Irresponsible gun owners and gun sellers are a real issue. And the fact there is not sufficient information gathered as to the mental fitness or validity of buyers. Anyone without a criminal record can purchase as many weapons as they like and sell them privately with little to no consequences as to the buyer. Nearly every single gun used to commit a crime was once a legally sold weapon. How did so many weapons get transferred to the non law abiding? Why is it there are so many weapons so readily available to criminals? Of all makes and magnitudes? Largely because the NRA and Far Right have made it impossible to properly restrict gun sales or the types of weapons sold.
And if our society were to collapse (which is a point we should not even be near) sure it would help to own a gun to defend yourself but that isn't really a world worth living in anyway. Who wants to live in a world where the paranoid and insecure hold control based on firepower?
vox:
Where do you get your facts?
The Florida Fascist legislature will soon pass the "Stand Your Ride" law.
And all the drive-bys will now be self-defense.
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Do you think these guns were registered and permitted? These are the guns that no gun law will ever control. Nobody went to a gun shop and filed out a form for these guns. These guns were sold in a back alley out of a car trunk. Grow up control freaks.
To all of you that are blaming the guns. Remember guns don't kill without a human actually pointing it and pulling the trigger. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. By the way, this kind of sounds gang related.
OMG! Florida again? I live here, not from here, just live here. Believe me I can't wait to leave in a couple of years when I retire from a teaching career. This state is one of, if not the only one, that is constantly in the news for some sort of criminal behavior or idiotic behavior that has become fodder for all the late night talk show hosts. And they are not wrong in their jokes. More than one of my students has told me about the critters they hunt and eat, including road kill and yup, there's inbreeding, etc. One of the very first newscasts I saw upon my arrival here was about brother and sister in Dade City made eight children together - all mentally retarded or Downs syndrome, or at best educable retardation. And when the authorities finally took the parents and children into custody the youngest was in her late teens. They were living off welfare, of course. I was horrified and disgusted because most people here despise New Yorkers in particular, but anyone from up north yet they see nothing wrong with their Floridian lifestyle. My friend in New York would ask me things like does this really happen or that really happen? In Florida, yes, if it's totally freaky and/or disgusting, yes it does. It seems just about all the nasty crimes come from Florida. I once heard a saying here, that if you want to commit a crime and get away with it, do it in Florida. Keeping watching the crime blotter - Floriduh will be there.
Another shooting in FL. Not even a surprise anymore. Ho-hum...
What a cesspool.
Sues-343312.....
Well, what can posters say about your reasons on leaving Florida after you retire because of the violence, in-breeding, and Welfare recipients ?
It is REALLY going to be hard for you to find anywhere in the U.S. to "retire" based upon your specific observations in Florida.
Looks like finding your "retirement home" within the U.S. is going to be extremely limited.
So, there may be some "overseas options" for you. I would recommend NOT considering any ME country or Mexico.
Just my thoughts.
Have a nice retirement.
Hey GCooper - - here you go....
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_gun_vio_hom_fir_hom_rat_per_100_pop-rate-per-100-000-pop
We are in a virtual tie with Mexico at #7 and #8 worldwide. We're keeping company with Barbados, Belarus, and Zimbabwe. However, you might notice that there are only 32 countries ranked.... Canada, France, Great Britain, Ireland, among others are apparently so low they don't even show up! Obviously all of our guns are making us much safer! We'd be safer in Latvia, Slovenia, and Moldova!
What sucks even more is the NRA freak, Wayne LaPierre, screaming, "Obama is after your guns!!" at every turn. Now, hand gun makers can't keep up with demand. Their answer to gun violence is more guns. Even if this is a gang murder, the gun/guns were legal at some time. Hoarding fools!
Sincerely,
Wayne LaPierre's Mother
Sues -
I'm not from Florida nor do I have any close connections with the state, but it's easy to deduce the absurdity of equating the Floridian lifestyle to some news article you heard about inbreeding. Why the hate? You seem very bitter.
prof-2806837,
Yes... exactly! Because we all know that if everyone at the funeral had a gun this wouldn't have happened, especially for 5-year-old McKayla Bazile!!!
Chris Wanker, thanks for shedding some logic to immunize a few of us against the tired old rantings of the gun-crazed. The gun manufacturers are missing a great market. The infant. Perhapsin the cradle we can start supplying infants with a gun they can actually fire with their undeveloped fine motor skills.
Then they and we will all be safer. But watchout, mom and dad, if you lean over your chidn's crib to kiss him or her nighty night, if the kid is upset with you or just thinks it might be fun you might get shot in the face. Of course a tiny child can ALWAYS plead self-defense and nobody will question that anymore than the cops did in Sanford, Fla. when that wack job Zimmerman claimed same.
.Live by the gun, die by the gun.
Yes, yes, it is the guns. Nothing about the gangs or creating a culture that glorifies gangs. Nothing about the fledging gang member required to get his 'bones' by killing someone, anyone. No, let's also not talk about the 'baby father' who fathers many children, hit and run and never, ever is responsible for those children. Let us not talk about the children born to these 'baby mamas' the ones who keep having the babies because the welfare pays for it. Let us not talk about a society or a culture that looks the other way when teenagers kill one another for their shoes or jackets, no, let us not address the REAL problems, no, let us ban guns so that honest people, law abiding people are unable to defend themselves from the gangsta's.
That's the ticket, get rid of guns...never, ever make people responsible for their actions either. It is always those 'poor, disenfranchised and troubled 'children' who need to be understood and have exceptions made for them. Those poor 'children' capable of beating old men and women to death, terrorizing neighborhoods, committing rapes, gang rapes, 'children' as young as thirteen killing in packs like feral dogs. But, yeah, it's those guns and not poor parenting, no parenting, the generational welfare, the making excuses for the inexusable and tolerating the intolerable that is at the heart of the issue. Poverty? Really? They can own cell phones, cable tv, all the electronic goodies, the designer clothing, they get free education which any kid wanting to learn has to fear for their lives to attend school, but yes, it is those guns and only those guns that are the problem.
The irony here is, he is spreading so much bull that the top gun manufacturers are no longer taking new orders. His own lies and deceit have screwed those that seek to purchase firearms.
Obama has expanded gun rights for all those thinking he is after your guns.
Those that allow themselves to be led around by ignorance are doomed to suffer from it.
But, how do you really feel? Are more guns the answer? If so, injecting additional cancer cells in a patient that already has cancer should ring true with you. There's almost as many "legal" guns as there is people in the US.
Stop playing the ole Southern standard, "Welfare Cadillac" for us and demonizing people of color. Times coming when we will be the minority. I wonder if they'll ever stoop as our ancestors did and gather up white men that look at their women and lynch us? Maybe they can have us take tests that we must pass to vote.
The problems are guns and poverty.
Sandtrich:
The problem is an entitlement society and a culture that makes excuses. As to more guns? So, are we going to magically remove the guns, all the guns? Rather than looking at the cause, we look at the symptoms. The War on Poverty, going how many years now? Demonizing people of color? I don't buy into white guilt. My ancestors never owned slaves, my grandfather was a sharecropper and his father before him. I come from a long line of 'less than affluent' people. None of my ancestors were gang members, not one member of my ancestors killed anyone because they were the 'wrong' color.
As to the stereotyping, it gets old. Not all southerners are racist hillbillies any more than eastern seaboard folks are all rich. The problem is the system that allows people to make excuses. Free education, no one has to pay for something that people in many other countries have to pay for or else their kids get NO education, yet look at the drop-out rate. I have taught school, university level, the students who wanted it worked for it and they succeeded, the others, well, they didn't really want it badly enough to work for it. I taught all races, there was no difference between the black students who worked hard or the Asian students who worked hard or the Hispanic students who worked hard, they all wanted and were willing to work and sacrifice. Many came from less-than-sterling backgrounds.
Sorry, but looking at what happened prior to the Civil War and then ignoring the Civil Rights Movement and what that did for equality is unfair and only perpetuates excuses. I have worked with many African Americans, the one's who worked and succeeded are not really in favor of making excuses either. Don't lower the bar, instead, make it something to strive for rather than glorifying in music and television and film a 'culture' of drugs and violence.
I agree, I'm not giving up my gun; it's the 1st line of defense! I keep my hands to myself, but... I'll certainly use mine in defense of myself or others, although I've never had to, thank God because I truly think taking someone's life would traumatize a person for the rest of his or her life. I do think there should be more strict classes though. Police officers have to learn to control their adrenaline and so should we. Unfortunately human beings are very excitable and sometimes lose all ability to reason. And not one of my ancestors killed a person of color either, so for my tax dollars to go to people who bring frivalous lawsuits for racism is equally as unfair as the racism itself. If anyone encounters racism they should only be allowed to sue the individuals, not the entire community. A little off topic I know, but as long as we're discussing the racial tensions.
Uh Oh... maybe somebody was snitchin'...
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For those of you Idiots that think it would be safer without guns, people have been killing peope befor guns were invented, If someone wanted to kill you a gun is not needed. A knife, a rock , a shoestring to strangle with, a car, hold you under water, choke you with hands, a baseball bat to the head, and on and on. But as they used to say "God made man, but Samuel Colt made them equal,", here are some statistics for you.
in Austrailia where they banned guns The bans were not limited to so-called “assault” weapons or
military-type firearms, but also to .22 rifles and shotguns. The effort
cost the Australian government about $500 million, said association
representative Keith Tidswell.Though lawmakers responsible for passing the ban promised a safer
country, the nation’s crime statistics tell a different story:
Countrywide, homicides are up 3.2 percent; Assaults are up 8.6 percent; Amazingly, armed robberies have climbed nearly 45 percent; In the Australian state of Victoria, gun homicides have climbed
300 percent; In the 25 years before the gun bans, crime in Australia had been
dropping steadily; There has been a reported “dramatic increase” in home burglaries
and assaults on the elderly. wnd.com/2000/03/1933/
Since Washington DC's hand gun ban was removed murder rate has fallen 25% to level's back in the 1960's
Since Chicago banned hand guns, there murder rate and crime rate has been climbing almost steadily.
In cities, or area's where legal gun ownership is highest there is a much lower crime and murder rate then in area's where legal gun ownership is lower.
the answeris simple even for so many simple minded people, if you want to rob assault and attack people you are going to do it where you feel it is easiest to do, that is not in homes and area's where people have guns and will defend themselves.
For those of you Idiots that think it would be safer without guns, people have been killing peope befor guns were invented, If someone wanted to kill you a gun is not needed. A knife, a rock , a shoestring to strangle with, a car, hold you under water, choke you with hands, a baseball bat to the head, and on and on
You don't have to be an idiot to realize that if someone is armed with a rock, a shoestring, or a bat, they are not going to be able to mow down a line of mourners at a funeral, or walk into a McDonalds and take out the entire store, or walk into a school and slaughter everyone they encounter. Actually, you DO have to be an idiot to not be able to see the difference. The shoe fits you bluthunder, slip it on.
No and a gun is not needed either seeing as how bombs seem to be the weapon of choice to kill multiple people at once in some places where there are guns plenty so to think just removing guns would prevent multiple murders from happening at once you are the idiot.
And so begins another chapter in the "Life Is Cheap" saga.
What motivates people to morph into monsters??? Does the shooter care that a little girl was hit??? Did he think for a minute that the possibility existed for this to happen???
Why???
And the REST OF THE STORY which NBC/MSNDC FAILED to mention:
Good grief NBC/MSNDC !! Are you still a news organization ? Whatever happened to REAL Journalism in your company ? This is similar to your Kangaroo Court on the youngster recently shot in Florida.....making assertions BEFORE all the facts are known.
chefaz-1319563....."What motivates people to morph into monsters???"
I suppose the above says it all. Since when can anyone "talk" to "drug cartels" or "gang bangers" ? They only respond to/with violence.
A lot of the time, it's people who drive POS red cadillacs...
Gosh, maybe someone was following them and they felt so at risk, like Travyon Martin, that they just had to attack someone first.
Wonder if any of the dead people looked like Obama's son? Wonder if we'll hear from the Community Organizer in Chief on this matter? Maybe Al Sharpton and jet down to Miami and lead some marches.
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Or maybe one of your heroes like Limbaugh or Palin will hold a Klan rally and march through the whole state of Florida holding their guns and Bibles. See ya there!
Gloria-2936085
Well Gloria I don't like Palin or Rush or care for the KKK myself any more than I do for Al or Jesse. I don't know about Rush but I think Palin and the KKK have enough sense not to go there and stir the race pot for one. More than likely Palin would march for TM™ because politicians whore themselves out all the time. For another I think the KKK knows that brandishing a firearm is ILLEGAL in the state of Florida... even if they have a concealed carry.
So are you one of the fools marching in Miami today or are you going to put on the KKK cloak and see how peaceful those TM™ marchers are? Amazing they want "justice" but won't stop marching until someone is arrested according to reports this morning. Hope they got a decent pair of walking shoes.
Too bad people aren't willing to march, or the media willing to emphasize how many gang killings and attempted murders happen every day. Did even one person protest when, two weeks ago in Chicago, 39 people were shot and 7 killed (including a 6 year old girl sitting on her front step). All this mayhem happened during one 30 hour period of time and almost all of it during gang related violence. If even 1/10th the protesters so concerned with Treyvon care even a little bit about the hundreds of others wounded or slaughtered by gangs, maybe Congress would get off their well paid butts and pass some legislation making gang banging a federal crime like car jacking is. Maybe the idea of a few decades in a federal supermax would deter some of these predators. But being in a prison with no parole, no priviledges at all, and being treated like the sociopathic predators they are will at least keep them off the streets. And if they receive the the death penalty, there are no years and years of neverending appeals.
It takes a bunch of real mentally deprived morons to do this. I don't care what the reason is. And it is time for "gangs" to fade into history and the mental midgets that belong to them to go out, get a job, and do something useful with their lives instead of ending up in a prison. A five year old gets hit by a bullet and all because a corpse got touched???? A shooting at a funeral and innocent bystanders get shot???? What kind of larva does something like this and still call themselves "human"? This is the kind of people we want out of the country and, if possible, off the planet. It gives new meaning to inter-planetary travel. It takes real low-lives to gun down people at a funeral. I've heard of stupid people, even ignorant ones, but this is a pure display of them in action. I wonder what they do if someone passes the salt to them when they ask for the sugar? When God was passing out brains, they thought he said trains, and they didn't want to go any where! This is just disgusting, inexcusable, animalistic behavior at its best. In fact, its an insult to animals. I apologize to the animal world.
I'll bet they claim self-defense, and get away with it...Just saying.
Jeb Bush's law/ self defense
Jack Hines: Jeb Bush did sign it into law and he did the right thing. Too many people are tired of being Robbed,Raped,and Car jacked .Only after these animals take all they want.They shoot you anyway. It was High time that we have Half A Chance to come out alive! Those who think that we should all give up our guns do not understand that Only the Law Abiding citizens will turn their guns in.Then only the crooks who usually do not register their guns anyway will be the only ones armed. We are tired of being Sitting Ducks in our own Homes,Cars,etc.
"If the person in the viewing has anything to do with it"
I'm no detective, but I'm pretty sure we can rule him out.
See my post # 3.1 above.
Funny, dapace.
Signs & Wonders. I can't deduce why such a thing has to happen, and they keep on happening. All the common decency that I was brought up to have, seems to no longer apply. People like to escelate things these days rather than defuse them. If people thought before they acted or reacted, or overreacted, maybe this nonsense would stop.
You're right. Maybe people find it to be too much trouble to defuse. Maybe people don't know how to defuse. Maybe people think by escalating a situation, they become the star attraction or the "victim". I don't know...somewhere there is a breakdown and that breakdown needs to be fixed. Wish I had the answers.
This respect thing with young people is a big part of the problem. Respect is earned, but young people think everyones disrespecting them, so it causes stupid conflicts over nothing. They have no respect for elders or most others but ya can't look at them crosseyed without it disrespectin them.
Ban handguns and automatic weapons.
takenaka no ban will stop these guns from being on the streets. These guys didn't follow the rules now and they won't if you ban guns. The only difference is these guys will still have their guns nobody else will. If they can't get them here well the same guys who sell to every little war will sell to them. Grow up dude.
Gentle Folk,
Washington DC had one of the toughest gun control laws on the books in this country.
It also had one of the highest murder rates in this country.
ONLY the criminals and police were actually using guns.
I know this because I lived there then. Now it is better.
Laws only stop or deter the law abiding----criminals do not give a rats hat about laws----that is why we call them criminals.
The message that is not yet understood is gun violence as a solution to issues is learned through observation. With the NRA pimping for guns for all, as guns become as common as iphones in your pocket, more and more "apps" will be used. Angry at your boss app? No need for anger management--blow them away. Suspicious of a unarmed teen app? No need to follow any reasonable course of action--blow them away. Feeling small, insecure and ineffectual app? Carry that gun, especially in Florida and use as directed. Albert Bandura years ago demonstrated convincingly that violence is learned through observation. The NRA and concealed carry folks give us all the tools for learning and target practice on our friends, family, neighbors and coworkers. Go NRA!
You are truly delusional and clueless about the purpose of the second amendment. When the 2nd falls the 4th and 1st will follow.
blow them away? the nra pimps for guns? the nra gives folks the tools for target practice on friends , family and coworkers? i think you need to get your head out of your arse.
Sue is right and I agree with it all and want to go back to NY also....but house is worth half of what we paid and we are stuck here, maybe forever! and NY is so very high in taxes, hard to manage living there, though it is looking like heaven to me now. Never understood why people think NYers are rude and unfriendly because I never found that to be true, yet I do find it in Florida, what an awful place.
Florida used to be a great State until folks from NY, NJ and Mass. decided to start moving there after screwing up their own states. The bastards are trying to do the same now to North Carolina. They say they can't stand living down south and tell you how much better it was up north, however for some unknown reason they never go back. Hint to all Yankees in the south --- I-95 runs from Florida all the way to Canada, or if your prefer flying --- Delta is ready when you are. Travel safe y'all.
NC Vet: I agree 100%. That is the great thing about this country. If you don't like it You are free to move!
Takenaka, if guns are ever banned for ordinary citizens no one will be safe. Are you really naive enough to believe criminals will surrender their weapons? The only thing keeping crooks out of our houses is that we might have gun and be willing to use it to protect ourselves. It might also keep this country from becoming a police state. We have the right to bear arms to protect ourselves from invasion/tyranny from within as well as from outside our borders. It's bad guys that are the problem, not the guns. Grow up.
Nice to see you have come up with a new line.. oh wait, you haven't. Tell you what, you convince all the criminals to give up their guns first, then I will consider giving up mine. I also want police on every street corner so they are only seconds away if I am attacked. And at night, a police officer for every two homes just in case.
BTW, automatic weapons are banned unless you pay a very large amount of money to get a tax stamp allowing ownership. With that goes a background check that takes about 6 months. I doubt criminals are doing this.
I also seem to recall reading that the Japanese didn't invade the west coast of the United States after Pearl Harbor because they knew the citizens here would out gun them.
Kamaaina
Somehow I am sure (sarcasm) that those involved in the Miami shooting the other day were all lifetime card carrying members of the NRA:
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/31/10958231-florida-funeral-home-shooting-2-dead-at-least-12-injured
Where are the protests and Al and Jesse on that one?
This does sound gang related. The shooter(s) just don't care about killing innocent people.
The owners and employees at the Funeral Home must have been happy ....
"Oh boy" , business is looking good ....
As inappropriate as your comment is, I sure did get a damn good laugh out of it. Just wanted to say "thanks"
I keep saying it..has to be the heat down there in Florida..too many wacko's there.
Was anyone wearing a hoodie?
I don't think so. Too many people from too many other places like to come here and commit crimes. By the way...where are you from???
Could it be that areas with better news coverage or highly concentrated populated areas are the reason that some places show up a little more often than some other locations???
I'm so tired of seeing posts referring to the geographic location when something happens. At the end of the day, guess what - we're all still Americans.
Your right. I'm sure that a nice suburb of San Fransisco would be just like Detroit, right?
Oh, please. There's plenty of crime listings here on suburban SanFran. Didn't take much to find it. You didn't bother to say where you're from. (BTW it's "you're".) Stroll on with your trolling.
Florida is in the news every freaking reporter in the country is trying to get a scoop. A few weeks ago there were 16 shootings in Chicago including a little kid. I'll bet there were a few in NYC and LA too. It just isn't news there anymore it happens all the time. Now a shooting in my town makes the news because it just doesn't happen that often.
LOL! Chefaz, the King of Poor Spelling and Horrible Grammar, points out someone else's typo. There's a POT MEET KETTLE moment...
FL is clearly a goddam cesspool. And if you think the suburbs of SFO are anything like Detroit, then you're even more whack than you sound here. And you sound VERY WHACK every time you post here!
lonereb,
Don't worry, Texas will be back out front shortly!!
Run out of medications again, Bernitch???
You spelled goddamn wrong Bernitch, so quit goddamned correcting others.
Florida Americas own little piece of the third world
As a Floridian, I will say yes, we're all nuts. We can't count (2000 vote fraud), can't administrate the law (numerous cases, Martin being the most recent) and we enjoy training terrorists (9-11). Florida has the most corrupt incorporation laws in the union, hence why our state is one of the major sources of all unsolicited calls. Boca Raton is considered the telemarketing capital of America. Makes starting Pill Mills super easy, not to mention. Organized Crime is every, and lots of retired mafia bosses live here. I should know, I used to know one (NOT NAMING NAMES). Lots of old people to defraud out of their medicare, too. The Medicare fraud coming from Florida is MASSIVE. If you wanted to put a end to the US deficit, just saw off Florida and let it float away.
Seriously.
Boca Raton (Rat Mouth) is the telemarketing capital of the nation? Some irony there somewhere.
Where's Brother AL and Brother Jesse?
Sorry the victims are Hispanic Al and Jesse don't give a damn about them.
Idgit.....
@cunical --- Until investigative evidence indicates the shooter was caucasion Jesse and Al will remain in Sanford, FL race bating and threatening "economic sanctions". There's no headlines or racist agenda in black on black crime. Jesse and Al don't care about their own race, merely themselves.
Yea brother!! Pierce Morgan gets chewed out for showing the other side of the story by a dude with a funny name.. HA HA HA HA
Yep--it's the black folks.
"Mother of 14, Nadya Suleman, who recently posed semi-nude in a bid to bolster her finances, is now receiving public assistance, according to TMZ.
On Saturday, the gossip site posted a photo of Suleman's welfare card, which helps her cover the costs of food for a family of 15 in California. She's eligible because with less than an annual income of $119,000 (or $8,000 per family member), the government deems her worthy of benefits.
RELATED: Octomom Poses Semi-Nude for Money
Suleman has reportedly pulled all but one of her children out of private school -- the only one still receiving a private school education is autistic -- which cut $4,000 from her monthly costs."
oops--she's white
Welfare recipients come in all flavors and colors. Thing is, welfare was meant to help people down on their luck and in need. Now what you have are people living a better life by not working than those who work.
As to seeing a nekkid Octomom...no thanks!
If you're so concerned about Al and Jessie NOT showing up get up off your fat lazy white azz and do something about it. Bottom line is you don't give a damn about Hispanics, Blacks, anyone of color. You just like to shoot off your bigoted mouth and hide behind your mother's computer. Your so patriotic.
Nothing could be more evident on these vines I have read today. Stop the senseless violence.
One love.
The problem today is when I was a kid if I saw someone pulled out of a car and beaten by a mob it was real and I knew it. Today with the simulated game violence it desensitizes you because the game starts again when you push a button. In my day the dead body didn't get up.
More than likely the guy who was being buried (shot) had not sufficiently paid his debts.
So the other thugs wanted to collect more.
Go NRA! Wow, you are making a daily name for yourself as the prime educator for the use of gun violence integrated into everyday life!
This has nothing to do with the NRA(no I am not a member), and most the guns used in these incidents are illegally owned. The trigger doesn't pull itself, and if a felon has it in his hand it just became an illegal weapon. There is no need to tread on law abiding citizens rights.
@Antistupidity
Yes, it does have a great deal to do with the NRA, simply b/c of what the NRA represents--primarily full support of the 2nd Amendment. Don't limit Kamaaina's statement when what s/he is implying is that guns have become such an unacceptably large part of our daily lives. I'm for 2nd Amend too, but when we put more emphasis on 2nd hand smoke than we do on 2nd hand violence then it may be time to put a curb on our 2nd Amendment.
or we could just put less emphasis on second hand smoke. More people are killed by reckless drivers than guns each year, so should we outlaw driving to solve the problem. Gangs will find a way to kill each other regardless of how we try to keep weapons away from them.
This kind of shooting doesn't make me call out the NRA because it sounds like criminal thugs who would have gotten the guns one way or another. Lax purchase laws, etc...is where I think they could be more supportive.
Sounds like the bad guys kill an enemy - and then can have a field day shooting at the poor people who show up for the funeral for the dead. Talk about drawing your enemies in and then killing them eh? It's a tragedy for society that we don't have some way to determine who the scumbags are who have no respect for anyone else's life - or their own for that matter - so that we could just push a button and be rid of those socially crippled people in order to have a better world. Sounds like the movie Minority Report come to think of it!
@ArrowsHead
No the NRA has a political agenda much of which I do not agree with. HOWEVER having lived in a theocratic dictatorship for part of my life, where you looked who was around you before you said certain things, curbed your speech, where people have been arrested for the possession of a playboy magazine. Where you were arrested, many killed, if you didn't have the right stamp for the area you were in, in your state issued ID book and you were a certain race. I have seen people publicly beaten and arrested for this first hand, no-one told me about it, I didn't hear about it I SAW IT FIRST HAND from my front yard.
The Constitution and the Bill of Rights are THE GREATEST works ever written by man, the 2nd amendment is the lynch pin that holds it all together. Unfortunately some idiots abuse it by doing illegal immoral things and MURDERING innocent people, this is a high price to pay for our freedoms but not nearly as high as the price of not having our constitution. I am still amazed at the foresight America's forefathers had when they wrote these documents.
They said on local tv this morning that it was a 9mm handgun and a high powered rifle. My guess would be it is a civilian version AK47 which is really nothing more than a semiautomatic rifle with a low to medium powered round. As for curbing the 2nd amendment, the laws we have are sufficient if properly enforced. Compare an AR15 and a Ruger mini14, their available accessories and their specifications and tell me why one is an "assault weapon" and one is a "sporting rifle", its all semantics by politicians.
When they find these guys ask them for their permits idiot. These guns have nothing to do with the NRA. The next time somebody sticks you up with a gun ask to see their permit. When are you people going to understand these people could care less about your freaking rules? If they cared they wouldn't be shooting up a funeral home in the first place. There is a war going on in some cities and none of the guns were bought with a permit. I'll bet none of them are even old enough to legally buy a gun. The assault rifle is fully automatic with a large clip the sporting rifle is semi automatic with a smaller magazine. Fully automatic hold down trigger rifle keeps firing. Semi automatic trigger must be pulled every time.
Oh, are you from Alabama?
Ignorant.
lonereb are you calling me an idiot, there is no difference between an AR15 and a mini 14, they are both semiautomatic, both have 10, 20, 30, and 40 round magazines available, they both use a 223 round, they can both have scopes mounted on them. The AR RESEMBLES an assault weapon and the mini 14 has a wood stock. You must be confusing an AR15 with a M-16 or M-4 both fully automatic military weapons and not available to the general public without very specific licensing.
There is no permit to buy a firearm in Florida but there is a 5 day cooling off period, a Florida Department of Law Enforcement background check and an FBI background check you have to pass before you can legally by a gun from a licensed gun dealer, illegal trade is exactly that illegal and they don't care and will get what they want even if they have to steal it.
@ Bernitch
Thanks for the laugh, close but no.
This has NOTHING to do with the NRA any more than NASCAR has to do with car crashes due to speeding on the hwy.
Blame the criminals they CHOOSE to be criminals. It is an active conscious CHOICE. They go through an initiation ceremony and everything it is like joining a very violent sociopathic fraternity.
They kill for thier gang (frat) bros. Because gang bangers are intellectually stunted / cognitively delayed and otherwise incapable of thinking for themselves.
TRUE, Criminals like ZIMMERMAN should NOT be on OUR streets!
What Congress needs to do is pass a law that enjoins every citizen to become part of the militia and carry a weapon.
Every citizen at some point will need to defend himself or herself, so Congress should compel everyone to be ready to do so. I don't remember where I heard this logic recently, but it certainly seemed to make sense.
Constitutionally, there are several places that give Congress the ability to do this: Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 (The Congress shall have Power To ... provide for the common Defence); Clause 15 (To provide for calling forth the Militia); Clause 16 (To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia...); and of course, the 2nd Amendment.
The government can't patrol our borders. They don't control drugs. And they won't be able to control something that has been a right for over 200 years.
There was going to be one dead either way, so if it makes you happy, Jo-an, think about Trayvon still being on the street to do harm to others over and over again.
Dugway
Here you go http://www.nraila.org/legislation/federal-legislation/2012/national-right-to-carry-reciprocity-act-of-2012-introduced-in-us-senate.aspx
It's the beginning of the end folks no different than the Middle East.
Speaking of the Middle East, seems that they have lots and lots of guns and generally they kill lots and lots of people with...bombs.
Florida is like the Middle East? Then move, its not going to be safe for you with a Republican governor
No state is safe with a republican governor. But, that's nothing new...
No taxpayer is safe with a democratic governor
Obviously Zimmerman was in on this.
Where is Sharpton, Jackson and Oblahbo on this one?
what's that mean?? this isn't political; people just need to stay out of florida
No doubt, the people who have lived in Florida all their lives would welcome the mass exit of all those who have come there and brought their life of crime with them!!!!!!!!
Not sure. With your mom? Is this a riddle?
Can you possibly stop licking Dumbya Bush's butt long enough to come up with something intelligent to prattle about?
A pillar of intellect.
She is indeed...a rather small pillar...
I'm sure "theQ54" works for the very secretive and elite group of foreigners and traitors who's goal is to hopelessly divide the people of this country so it can be destroyed, much like they did to other countries...By creating hatred in a country between different peoples or even religions you are weakening it. Some people fall for this quicker than others. Don't get suckered into this Americans, or you're F****d.
@GRS MN
I have no clue about theQ54 but I am pretty sure if there is a group like that then Al, Jesse, and Spike are on payroll. I would say the same about Obama but I just keep hoping that he is above all of this and the few race dividing gaffs he has made are unintentional and him just speaking on the spur of the moment before he really thinks about it.
(yes, I know that is not a nice thing to say but I am really tired if Al, Jesse, and Spike race baiting).
to my comment above... that should read really tired of Al, Jesse, and Spike race baiting. They really have no incentive to stop, it gets them media coverage and makes them money. Maybe if the old folks who Spike tweeted their address sues him for everything he owns and people boycott his movies he will take a hard look in the mirror.
Seems Spike, having a change of heart or fearing a lawsuit, paid the old couple off. No mention of how much, maybe he bought their house since after what he did it would be rather scary to live there.
Yep, Spike coughed up some $$$, case closed. He was stupid to have tweeted anything, even if it was the right address. What would he have done if somebody harmed that elderly couple or even Zimmerman? People need to stop the violence and the sideshows in the media, go home and come up with some solutions to violence among young people. We have turned into a nation of soundbites, hate speech and reactionary dogma and as much as Social media has helped some situations, it will be our undoing if we use it recklessly.
Why is it that people of a particular race always without fail leave negative comments, but then scream I'm so tired of minorities screaming racism. Perception is reality. It is so sickening...you will destroy your life and your true potential in life from hate..is it worth it?
A minority can equally say..Oh look at the page with the teacher offering higher grades for sex.....you can already tell who that person would be.
Why when children go missing and later found dead killed by their parents why is it always a particular race, your child molesters...... your serial killers? The list could go on. As well as it can equally go on for all races. Each race contributes greatly to the destruction of the HUMAN race. That in reality is the only truth.
It's so easy for people , adults even to sit and hid behind a computer screen and make up fake names ..go through all of that just to post nasty comments..You want to be heard but with conditions only.
The race shouldn't matter because regardless it has a direct impact on all people of a nation........hence the comments
In reality it doesn't matter..if you were in a tragic accident and ever needed blood I doubt you would say....Only if it's from a particular race....the same for a heart transplant, liver transplant and the like.
There is enough hate in the world......the position has been filled. Do something else with your life. Choose to be better.
It's sad that MSNBC would condone such comments ...it's a direct reflection on what they promote.
Matthew 7:1-5
Do not judge or you too will be judged. For the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the same measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother , "Let me take the speck out of your eye, when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
Stellar post, erasethehate. Stellar.
erasethehate,
Why are you making up BS.? People of a particular race do not always leave negative comments.
Maybe you should take a moment and think about your moniker here - because your comments sure don't demonstrate it.
@ erasethehate
People can look at statistics and go over crime patterns but no one can really say a specific crime = specific race. A good example is the Washington snipers. The profilers were all over that case and they were sure it was a white male. They had egg on their face when the sniper turned out to be AA.
erasethehate --
You sound like someone who is subtly trying to spread the hate instead of erase it, and all your bible-thumping doesn't hide the subtext of bigotry in your post.
Nice try. No cigar.
This whole race baiting BS is getting out of hand. It is also getting to a flash point. Everyone fueling it including Al, Jessie, Spike and every reporter when the @!$%# hits the fan will be nice and safe in their posh protected neighborhoods. The people who will lose will be the poor people they are stirring up. It will be the neighborhoods of the poor that will burn. It will be the black neighborhoods that will burn and they will have done it to themselves. I'm old enough to have seen this before in 1967. I've been there and I don't need to do it again.
erasethehate. your post is joke. you quote the BuyBull, and it is -- by itself -- the greatest source of killing, hate, discrimination and mass murder as ANYTHING in history.
some of you are so blind and ignorant to the hatred, denigration and mass killing that the goddam BuyBull encourages and all the evil its followers have done...
it's just unbelievable... the mindlessness of religious nutters.
of course, chafaz loved your post! there's a big shock...
Yes I did, as a matter of fact. I'm surprised that you had a moment of clarity and were able to discern this. Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be one of strong points. Come to think of it, other than insults, bullying and trolling, what exactly are your strong points???
She supports Obama?
They can't even get the story right on the person the funeral was for.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/2-dead-and-14-shot-in-mass-north-miami-shooting-video/
Dave-781087
Where is Sharpton, Jackson and Oblahbo on this one?
apparently on the other side of town? same site.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/2-dead-and-14-shot-in-mass-north-miami-shooting-video/
@trust_verify --- At a beer summit with Trayvon's parents.
More senseless stupidity! When will people wake up from this percieved threat that everyone is out to get them? When you percieve things in this manner, you will always want to shoot first, ask questions later. This is probably gang related? Gangs must be erradicated! Come on people, how many more innocent five year olds have to be hurt, or killed, before you take back your communities???
Go ahead you're free to go into the gangs and tell them to play nice. I don't think they'll listen though.
White, black, brown or yellow, what difference does it make....lives are being lost needlessly! Don't take offense at these comments, take offense at the number of young lives that are being wasted before they get a chance to fulfill their dreams. Take offense to the fact that too many young men and women are killed every single day due to violence which could be stopped by you and me both. We don't need to be bad ass every single day of our lives because this is the end result...death. We're the so-called lucky ones because we're still alive...but for how long?
kacz....your sky color? Race and color are the problem....no sugar coating going to fix it...it needs to be "race baited" out of existence, not ignored
only in floridu
@meyou1 --- If it's stupid there's a better than even chance it's occurred in Florida.
"At least one gunman opened fire on a crowd or mourners gathered at a Miami-area funeral home,..."
Proof yourself.....
GCooper, you're simply trying to polish a turd with you politcally correct interpretation. Did anybody notice how the police are looking for 5 or 6 men driving an impala. Dang, that's a lot of possible suspects to choose from. Looks like they decided to leave out the color of the men doing the shooting. Three guess's as to the ethnicity of the shooters.
The shooter is a black white hispanic named Tyrone Smith Rodriguez.